Darksiders Lore: Abaddon the Destroyer

[@louiemercado5595]

I also love his demonic dragon form the best. Also, he's named after the angel of the bottomless pit who can summon locusts.

[@leroy4569]

I am a simple man. I see darksiders vids. I click

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Simple pleasures are the best of pleasures, glad to bring a few ;)

[@Britonmarie]

Same here, but I also wanted to learn more lore of the characters

[@DashMatin]

you have my respect

[@anathar1942]

Same

[@peanutpaste1402]

I find it kinda ironic, you know. Someone so bent of saving heaven as the True Savior, instead became the Ultimate Destroyer.

[@VierAlder]

I choose what once a coward did not-War

[@abymondesir23]

Can't believe the cowardly betrayal of aboddon especially towards Uriel who truly respected him. Still makes no sense why would abbadon who dedicated his life to kill demons become 1 & forfit his honor & pride respect. In an instant why????

[@devaughnjohnson]

He was damned either way and chose power rather than be dragged in disgrace before his people, he still died on his back before War, who still has to kill Ulthane and Azreal for their part in this.

[@MetroGnome]

Much love and appreciation!

[@firetarrasque4667]

It's incredibly tempting for me to start referring to him as Failbaddon the Armless. I don't even play 40k. That name is just so appealing.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

lol, that name does sound awesome, we know next to nothing about 40k, but cool name for sure.

[@firetarrasque4667]

I believe the name came about because A: He never wins because they need to maintain the status quo and B: One of his models had exceptionally brittle arms.

[@fuzzyhair321]

@@TrueMastersandMorons he is the greatest loser ever, took 13 black crusades and a planet killer ship to literally smash into the cadia to winish

[@snakeysnake337]

Abbadon in warhammer 40k is a failure of a leader. He lead 13 black crusades and he lost all 13 times hense the name Failbbadon

[@carlthomaswilliamsjr.2995]

More like Failbaddon the wingless.

[@kadothetrue]

I wanna know the lore of the riders weapons and gear

[@TheMitchYouKnow]

Kory Kells me too

[@serri7833]

Agreed

[@Hynotama]

Abadon and Ulthane broke ALL 7 seals with the Armageddon Blade. Ulthane reforged ONLY the last seal. The Charred Council did not fall for this trick and sent War to Earth to take the blame in order to motivate him to investigate and punish the transgressors. Remember that at the end of Darksiders only the one seal with the horses engraved in it was broken by Uriel (along with the watcher's arm), thus summoning all 4 horsemen in an official capacity and in full possession of their powers as well as truly unleashing Armageddon.

[@jonathanratsey2244]

No Azeral states in game they broke ALL BUT ONE seal

[@Kronos8456]

Vulgrim

[@davidsingh5329]

10:18 It's Ulthane and "AZRAEL" not Uriel.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

... you are absolutely correct, that was our bad, and we've added a note to the video description. Thank you, and sorry.

[@anathar1942]

@@TrueMastersandMorons yeah you "MORONS" Sorry i had to make a pun about it no offense meant toward you guys

[@D0NBota]

Can we get a video on Vulgrim??

[@michael27863]

Is it me or does did Absalom have the same color eyes as the council? I know this is a random question, but I never noticed that till now....Even during the fight after cutting his arm his face looks just like the council as if he took some what of a form of the council

[@skyfatherproductions4929]

for the next video, can you do it on Ulthane, I wanting know why he was kicked out of the forge lands in darksiders 1

[@punishersnake4888]

i REALLY LIKE YOUR GUYS channel... you rock... great video.... I CANT WAIT FOR DARKSIDERS 3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

We really appreciate that. We always do the best we can and hope we can continue to release videos to please. :) WE ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED AS WELL!

[@leroy4569]

Due to these vids i bought the both the novel aswell as the comic

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Having recently finished the novel we can say that it is a great read, very fun and interesting. Hope you enjoy them, and the comics were a fun, visually appealing way to expand the universe. We've enjoyed it all, hope you do too!

[@Masso-gy9yu]

how about a video of the lore of the Chaos forms the horseman have?

[@abymondesir23]

Well said

[@paledrake]

Would be cool if we got a video on Strife seeing how it’ll take a long time until we see him get his own game (considering if Darksiders 3 does good enough).

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

We know so little about strife at this time that we really wouldn't be able to make any kind of lore video on him. He exists for no more than like 5 panels in any of the comics with a brief mention in the book and that's about it atm.

[@paledrake]

True Masters and Morons Suck that there’s so little about him right now. I can’t wait for the 4th game, it’ll be interesting to see how Strife’s gameplay will be like.

[@FatalFist]

Seath I’d hope Strife would play with a bunch of grapples and kicks plus his pistols would remind you of Gunslinger from Devil May Cry.

[@dude123446]

love all the videos and thanks for the good info on him and i hope one day you do a video on Azrael

[@sponky1797]

I subscribed like 7 hours ago, I love your channel I am a huge darksiders fan and fan of your channel keep up the hard work 🔥🤘🏼

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Thank you. :)

[@trygullx]

has anyone noticed that the demons abide by the treaty but kept an eye on the angels but the angels were like "how to destroy them without being caught" its like the side we are lead to believe are the noble faction are in fact the deceiving faction

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Isaac Feels that the reason behind this is kind of the same reason why humanity likes to fight against darkness more than fight against good and light. Reason being those who are enjoying evil are content to just sit and stew in their evil enjoy their revelry's and what not. Where as good wants to eradicate evil because it feels like that is the only way to get to peace. Painting Angels as the "Angry evil ones" is becoming a more and more common theme now. But that's just one random internet dudes opinion. :)

[@trygullx]

@@TrueMastersandMorons I like that opinion ^^

[@rickwitt7373]

Vulgrim or the watchers. That just needs to happen especially since there's a new female watcher

[@FatalFist]

Rick Witt I think the female Watcher is the sister of The Watcher from the comic that preludes Darksiders 1. There were two, they were twins.

[@cls357]

Can you please do a video that discusses the trusty mounts of the four horsemen? Yes their horses; can you give more insight on the likenesses, differences and significances of them? 🐎

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

There's not a whole lot on the horsemen's mounts, but what we could find we actually included in this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6axZmWmbNhgh68 Hope that satisfies your curiosity :)

[@adamwarner1548]

the only reason the destroyer fell to war was the Armageddon blade the only weapon capable of hurting him

[@SirMuteb]

thank you, thank you that explains soooooo much for me

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

You're so welcome, that's part why we do these, glad you enjoyed and that it helped Abaddon's story make sense.

[@OmegaSai]

Love it! Maybe a video on the black hammer?? Starting to run out of ideas lmao

[@shawnmark3492]

Please do Mark Hamill's The Watcher next.

[@anasb.8647]

hey guys, amazing video could you start a playlist about some of thses games: Nier Automata, Dark Souls, Mass Effect, God of War

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Is there anything specifically from any or all of those games that you'd like to see videos on?

[@ryanbolin1858]

Can we get a video just about Nex Sacramentum?

[@punishersnake4888]

how about a video on Sameal and if you guys have made one sorry still watching all your back logs.... great videos keep up the awesome work !

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Thank you, and we do actually have one on him, hope you enjoy! Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap-6lWZ3YqxrrcU

[@ImAnimeFreak09]

Do a video on the watcher please

[@MartinGarcia-cc8fe]

Do Absalom next please.

[@DarkLordLewis1996]

Could you do one on Arcon from darksider two please

[@lewis18051]

Could you do vulgrim please

[@khaledm.a2254]

How did abaddon get his hands on the seven seals?

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

It's never specified unfortunately (unless they go over it in the newest game, which we haven't finished, but that seems unlikely since it takes place long before Abaddon gets the seals).

[@samreddig8819]

But who was destroyer before abbadon?

[@AnnasGayStars23]

Sam Reddig Gaming That’s what I also want to know, does this mean The Dark One|Satan was no more and Abbadon|The Destroyer became Satan??? 🤔🤔🤔😈😈😈

[@firetarrasque4667]

Firstly: No. Abbadon is dead. Second of all: Few people know this, but it was actually Fred. Fred was just an idiot.

[@punishersnake4888]

Sam Reddig Gaming that is a good question... i love these games and the books and comics... but i dont know :( i mean thats something i would like to know.... lol great question Sam!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Sam Reddig Gaming: Far as we understand the Destroyer is either just a title passed from head general to head general. Or was a specific title granted Abaddon as the Destroyer of Earth as a whole. It is entirely possible there was no Destroyer before Abaddon. But that's all conjecture from us, we have no way to be sure. 3. 14 Dragon: lol, just lol

[@doublehit9165]

It seems that there is a demonic artifact which can trasform any Living being into the destructor, who is the most powerfull demon basically unstoppable by using any normal or demonic weapon. Only a weapon made by the creators can harm it. Abaddon was severly injured by straga and teleported to a dark place in which that artifacts is kept by Lilith. The presence of the arifacts traformed the angel into the destructor, although he seem to retain a certain grade of consciousness because he doesn't kill Uriel later

[@mistman1977]

Just found and subbed to your channel. Are you guys new? Love the material you discuss. Best of luck!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Relatively. We're a fresh slightly past year old. So you're not to late to this crazy train. :) And thank you. :D

[@FatalFist]

I thought the prelude comics hinted that Sameal and Lilith were talking with Abaddon.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

There's no indication that Abaddon ever colluded with demons (except maybe Vulgrim) prior to his fall. If you're talking about when Lilith calls Abaddon out to the horsemen as the guy campaigning for war between heaven and hell, we presume that was just her information network keeping her apprised of things. Can't think of what else you might be talking about off hand, but, short version, we don't think so?

[@madcap3450]

My main question. Are they're any Angel's as strong as samuel? All the Angel's seem alot weaker than demons

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Possibly? We get the impression that Samael is number one or 2 in Hell, presumably, as the leader of Heaven's mightiest warriors Abaddon was Heaven's number one or two, and with his well of souls super charge he probably came close. But we don't actually know. There are plenty of angel unit types in the games that are more powerful than lower level demons. Uriel in particular can lay the one shot smack down on demons that in-game are very difficult for War to kill. But for a direct power comparison we really don't know. For what it's worth, Angels appear to rely more on science/magical device weaponry, whereas demons appear to be just body/mysticism. But we think power for power there probably isn't an individual angel as strong as Samael, if there ever was one it would have been Abaddon, Azrael, or maybe the Archon from Darksiders 2. Because as in all games. The Demons are Zerg, and the Angels are Protoss ;p

[@graodon]

The archon was pretty strong holding his own against death who was not weakened btw.

[@doublehit9165]

I think that Lilith possess a powerful demonic artifact which can trasform a livimg being into the destroyer. What do you think about that?

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

We think it's more likely that it's some combination of Abaddon's natural power (since we know angels can corrupt into demons) and Lilith's magic. (though it could be an artifact that fuels that magic), or it's all Abaddon, or we're wrong entirely, no real way to be sure.

[@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296]

Can you do a video on the Abyssal armor

[@Ando1428]

Hey do you think uriel will finally get a promotion? She fought for a hundred years. With a dwindlling force.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

You know if she get's back to heaven and they welcome her in she might just get that promotion (and if nothing else We don't think those soldiers are going to just abandon her ever anyway.)

[@Ando1428]

True Masters and Morons true. The helguard is definitely with her. Those at arclight as well. The rod of arefel will definitely be needed. But the heavens havent planned anything to our knowledge. I hope we learn what that is. I mean angel seem to be way weaker then their counterparts. We need to know more about them.

[@thegrub2119]

A video on the chosen? If there is mich lore that is

[@mikalbowman6013]

Whooo awesome 😎

[@Jul_Vy_Mdama]

One thing that doesn't add up for me is that they mentioned the Destroyer was present before Abaddon had fallen to Straga. So then who was the Destroyer before Abaddon fell?

[@BjornV1994]

It is part of the ruse created by Lilith and Lucifer. The Destroyer was a fake general made up in rumors by Lilith and Lucifer, as part of their plan to recruit Abaddon. When Abaddon was captured by Straga, there was no Destroyer, just a myth about this mystical general. Once Lilith had Abaddon in her grasp, she persuaded him to take up the mantle, both making myth a reality as well as protecting his own identity. As the Destroyer was believed by most in creation to have already been a powerful mysterious demon lord by the start of the Apocalypse, nobody would suspect that Abaddon was in fact The Destroyer. If a powerful demon would just turn up, right after his fall, there might have been some that got suspicious...

[@jacklebergshecklestein9359]

9:19 Even if hell attacked heaven wouldn’t the charred council get on hell’s ass for it?

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Probably, but just like with what happened on Earth, that doesn't mean that Hell couldn't do damage to Heaven before the Council stepped in. More importantly Abaddon was spouting political rhetoric. First rule of politics, it doesn't matter if a problem is real, or likely, it only matters than you can make the people THINK that it's a real, likely problem.

[@ultramanfan3757]

what about the archon

[@werewolf808]

Please do the angels in general

[@Aditya-wo9zz]

Abyssal Armour plzzz

[@williambailey7649]

Affliction wasn't an abomination, it was a Nephilim weapon like Harvester

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Full disclosure, it's been awhile since we made this video, but we don't thiiiiink we called Affliction an abomination. You are 100% correct it was just a nasty sword that the Nephilim made. The one that took Abaddon's eye. If the video gave the wrong impression, our bad.

[@batkenobi9008]

@True Masters And Morons I'm presuming Abaddon goes to hell right? Thanks in advance

[@iamjustsham1066]

Do lore of xenosaga.

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Anything specifically you'd like to see a video on?

[@krazylary9300]

Devil may cry Dante lore please

[@Caleb_son_of_God]

Ok, affliction wasn’t and an abomination, it’s a sister weapon to harvester and made by death.

[@supremeoverlordofnaughtine9778]

666 pick up stix!

[@ninjammer726]

please make a video on metal gear solid and devil may cry if you can!!!!!!!

[@TrueMastersandMorons]

Anything specifically from either series you'd like to see videos on?

[@ninjammer726]

the origin of big boss to his downfall and the metal gears that he and solid snake fight as well as lore videos on the all the metal gears themselves!!!!!!!

[@ninjammer726]

also a lore video on sparda and his weapons passed down to dante and vergil

[@blackasta7948]

abaddon is not purely evil or satan🙂 bcuz he is a demon kind, as a right hand god's🙂 abaddon is different about them

[@rdragon0bdragon127]

😔😔😔😔😔