Darktide is out of Early Access in 2024.

Warhammer 40k: Darktide just got an update which means it's actually like a fully released game now! But is it worth you time? A beard with a man attached investigates.
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[@AnotherGuy24]

DONT DELTE YOUR CHARACTER, the mastery is shared across the account XD

[@bradleyjenkins2271]

To be fair I deleted many in the early days of the game since you couldn’t modify your voice back then

[@Acesahn]

He also doesn't have them unlocked fully. You don't have them unlocked right away no matter how much you played!

[@TheAuditor.167]

@@Acesahn i had multiple on each character slot maxed so i don't think you're right or its bugged lol

[@vlanson6529]

​@@TheAuditor.167 Not a bug, Intended feature to reward people who already had blessings.

[@vlanson6529]

​@@AcesahnWrong, you were rewarded mastery automatically depending on how many blessings and the tier of said blessing for that weapon category.

[@LuxQueensbane]

Darktide was always fun. But now we can confidently say it's good. Fartshart as always delivers, but never on release.

[@Auraniwastaken]

Yeah it was always fun when it worked (spoiler: it didn't work very often)

[@dbank6107]

Not many games do

[@DrunkGeko]

Also they are glacially slow at releasing new stuff and improvements but eventually they do get there

[@Prushinthespirit]

Too bad the majority of the audience already leaves the game by that time

[@CBRN-115]

Why couldn't they just simply do this in the beginning?

[@ockhamsraptor4702]

Masteries are account wide so making a new character doesn't really interact with the system. Talent progression is definitely better, but that's been out a while. Still, the freedom to experiment with blessings and weapon types is great. I love that they packed the weapon variants together. It practically reduces the grind and inventory clutter by 3.

[@Acesahn]

Also, you don't start with max mastery? I was playing enough to have enough dockets and plasteel to buy my way to mastery with every weapon if I wanted and mine were all mid ranked.

[@superspies32]

I bought Darktide in 2023, one thing that make me quit after 2 months were the amount of Plasteel and Diamantine I needed for a Bolter that has 2 blessings I wanted. Just returned after read a changelog and finished the bolter, its much easier and maintain now.

[@WellBattle6]

@@AcesahnAt least mastery levelling is pretty fast.

[@Acesahn]

@@WellBattle6 Yeah, but he was saying he had it all mastered and that would take weeks of gameplay if he wasn't buying whites and leveling them to greens like I did XD

[@draketurtle4169]

@@Acesahnif he already had most of the blessings unlocked especially 3/4s then he’d start with a lot of mastery exp in the new system.

[@Acesahn]

Casual: Is Darktide worth pl- *Gets slapped, handed a lasgun and a knife and thrown into the frontlines.*

[@spartnmarcen5110]

The Emperor Protects.

[@zeekmuniz1663]

😂😂😂😂☠️

[@Acesahn]

@@spartnmarcen5110 Even novices can die for the Emperor 👍

[@brianmoyachiuz905]

Oh, oh, me next, what's my random weapons? tbh, a random weapon rogue-like mode would totally be amazing right now

[@Lichelf]

@@brianmoyachiuz905 Yeah but that was already in Vermintide 2, and if there's one thing Darktide doesn't like it's adding features and fixes from Vermintide 2.

[@penguins0301]

Play for fun, stay for Jesper Kyd. Man i wish Jesper Kyd working on Space Marine 2 too

[@dankmotionsstudios5161]

Same. Sm2 music is dog water

[@Laid2Rest94]

@@dankmotionsstudios5161I wouldn’t say it’s bad, it’s just a bit bland. I preferred SM1s music.

[@sergiolol3439]

jesoer kyd its a fucking legend

[@thequestbro]

The soundtrack for this game is beyond masterful. Jesper Kyd is a God.

[@mkultra2456]

It's good music but I always turn music off in multiplayer games so I can hear all the ambient sounds. And enemy footsteps. In PvP it's essential.

[@POW3RSAUC3]

FatShark has a track record of somehow doing the same thing with every game. They push the game out and half the innards are missing. It takes forever as they take steps to flesh it out. Then after a year or two, it officially hits and feels great.

[@ethanwalker955]

It's their business model at this point. Why would they care about shipping a completed game when they know they are working on it for the next few years and that more people will buy it when the "title" updates drop.

[@torrasque0151]

Same story since Krater, only the fixing it part never came for that game.

[@barrywise7185]

I think it's pretty interesting that Melk's shop is now a way for new players to bypass the mastery system. People just starting out with just a blue 300 empowered combat knife and a T2 blessing have a shot at getting a 500 empowered, T3/T4 blessings weapon of their choice. Sure the perks might be weird, and the stats might not be split how you'd like, but I bet it'll feel great to get that high tier weapon early. bloody useless for the people with 500+ hours in the game tho...

[@guilliman1990]

Agreed this brings me absolutely nothing. Every single weapon I like/use is already near perfect. I have played over 1.5k hours so iv already mazed the items I actually want this gives me nothing but an annoying rebuild on each charcter since skill trees got reset

[@F0XRunner]

yeah once you are max level Melk becomes a little useless. I hope they come up with something new to do with the currency.

[@gonozal8_962]

@@F0XRunneryou max out on all 4 characters? congrats, man, you completed the game. now you can play auric 5 for challenge

[@G1NZOU]

I wouldn't say he's completely useless, for someone leveling up a new character access to him unlocks at a point where you may have mid curios, and he sometimes has some great ones available. I take a look at his shop the same as I visit Brunt's, cause you never know he might have one with a stat block that's decent and then you can change the blessings yourself.

[@Irishblood501]

lol, it's fatshark, new class in 6 months at the earliest, they make fun games, but they should not be live service, their content cadence is absolutely abysmal, and to take 2 years to get the game to where it should have been on release is a meme

[@SquealingPig1651]

Still no solo

[@blueballedbilly6637]

yeah I don't get it, played a few hours, saw the new systems, played the new mission and I'm done, new 40$ skins in the cash shop though, priorities

[@basswhole1391]

Right, all these people saying the game is good now yet fatshark still haven't delivered on promises made ages ago

[@scifimisc9191]

​@@SquealingPig1651 Thats INSANE

[@SlytherpuffHouse]

Is it a live service? They don't charge for season packs and everything they've added had been free, there's also very little reason to use the cash shop because it's so badly implemented and overpriced. Kind of feels like a regular full price release that they just randomly add stuff too.

[@athel7]

I liked Darktide even on release. But it should be noted I never played Vermintide, so unlike many who were critical on release I didn't have that as a reference. Darktide is much better now, but I ceratinly agree that a new class and some more weapon options would be a great boon at this point. The game has excellent graphics and music, so theres that to build on. And it offers a nice alternative to the hero fantasy of Space Marine which I'm sure is a game many will try out too.

[@Lichelf]

Yeah the video really hit the nail on the head with how the game is finally at its launch state, next is for the game to catch up to what it should be now years later. The reason why a new class to play is so sorely missed is because the developers promised us a new class every 3 months so the game was supposed be at around 12 classes now, almost as many as Vermintide 2 had at launch. The skill tree update made up for a lot of it though, but that was almost an entire year ago.

[@MrBlitsBlits]

To me it has always felt like 30% of a game. Like I could imagine it having a campaign and then after /and during) that you can spend time on these runs.

[@Henbot]

Have they not added new classes after all this time?

[@shadycanopy15]

​@@LichelfTo be fair, those classes were supposed to be alternative playstyles for the 4 archetypes of Veteran, Psyker, Zealot, and Ogryn; and the Skill Tree update gave us those alternate playstyles. That being said, we do need some more ways to play at this point.

[@yellowsaurus4895]

I played Vermintide before Darktide, and guess what? I liked Darktide on release too. My only expectations going in were to hit a lot of ghoulies REALLY hard over the head, and that's exactly what i got.

[@RoccaFelipe]

I ENJOY NOW DARKTIDE a LOT, the intense moments are GOLDEN, we are having a great time with Warhammer games lately.

[@GotrekGurnisson]

Mission hub is still god awful Idk why on earth I have to share mission hub with 40 random people instead of just my friends. Makes loading take longer.

[@porkerpete7722]

​@@GotrekGurnisson i think it looks cool seeing 12 other varlets running around.

[@skywillfindyou]

@@GotrekGurnisson I don't think this makes YOUR load time long. As players join the hub at any time, not all together.

[@GotrekGurnisson]

@@skywillfindyou i just generally feel the whole hub is a waste I don’t get why I can’t pick the mission I want like I did in vermintide I don’t get why I have to run all over a massive area that’s wasting assets cuz hoards of people I don’t want to be around are there If I’m not mistaken vermintide can run offline I’m confident darktide cannot The in mission gameplay is amazing don’t get me wrong But the whole mission hub design annoys me to no end

[@ArsDeicidium]

One thing I can tell anyone wondering: Darktide > SM2 Operations. You will be more engaged, the balancing is much more, well, balanced. And there's definitely a higher skill ceiling and APM standard. Weapons actually feel unique to use. Also, MUCH less downtime. I look forward to see new bodies for the frontlines of T5 Auric missions, if you get to that point. For the Emperor.

[@porkerpete7722]

I agree Darktide is way more fun than SM2. But ive been getting crushed on damnatiin lately, when I would never lose before. It feels harder for some reason.

[@ArsDeicidium]

@@porkerpete7722 I'm not sure, but since last I played it seems like the non-elite ranged enemies don't just spawn in a huge group anymore? It's like they trickle in by 1's and 2's all over the place, so AOE things can't just deal with them instantly, that's one thing that I find way more difficult to deal with, I wouldn't be surprised if they buffed alot of enemies HP pools, because for a while after the class trees update, game was a bit too easy. Loving being challenged, though!

[@ChiefCrewin]

At least they have 6 classes.

[@ArsDeicidium]

@@ChiefCrewin But Darktide has skill trees that house 3 different main builds, and better yet, you get to custom make your build picking and choosing the bonuses/ability augments you want. So, technically it was 4 Archetypes and 12 subclasses, but way more when you start factoring custom builds that veer from the subclass 'guidelines'.

[@dinklezucc5982]

​@@ArsDeicidium ragers got mega buffed, so did shooters dmg (they semi rolled this change back) and likely spawns like you mentioned. Add in new players going t5 before they really should be there, and I think that's why they feel harder now.

[@nella544]

I really really want a playable tech priest

[@MrDante2456]

Or rattling or felenid

[@skywillfindyou]

No no no. Even Skitarii is already on a fringe of powerlevel of our group, Tech Priest is too much. Nah, even SKitarii is too much.

[@TripleB87]

@@skywillfindyou we're not even really rejects anymore, we're agents of the Inquisition, capable of taking out Beasts of Nurgle and Plague Ogryn. We're basically helmet-less characters. A rat wouldn't be too far of a stretch, although I doubt we'll see it.

[@D4RK_FL4M3]

​@skywillfindyou An ogryn dogs a skitarii in a 1v1 (does depend on loadout I guess). The power level differences in the game arent lore friendly at all so I could see them adding a tech adept or something.

[@rq7179]

Are "Skitari" (i don't know how you spell it) low enough to be with varlets we play as? Or maybe a combat servitor?

[@bjack1547]

Fatshark deserves all the criticism.

[@willb1405]

True. Still love the shit out of darktide though

[@trolltalwar]

tencent*

[@Ghouleh3133]

I appreciate that Darktide is more playable now. But the mission selection and the live-serviceification of the game murders it for me.

[@insomniac6136]

@3:26, Darktides statbars show only whole number percentages but actually have 0.5 increments. So sometimes you can get into situations in which it rounded weirdly.

[@rifqyf1399]

FYI, afaik, Fatshark is owned by Tencent now, so that's why the cosmetics are tightly locked behind paywall unlike vermintide where there was occasional event for players to earn premium cosmetics for free

[@dean_l33]

That explain the sudden bump in quality

[@SquealingPig1651]

Yup, and tencent is a terrible company

[@badrobotsanta]

The difference is DT has dedicated servers, which cost a lot so they need a constant revenue stream.

[@rifqyf1399]

@@dean_l33 probably that's the good side of thing

[@Andrew-cs1td]

They give you tons of free skins through the penance system. Edit also can buy cosmetics with the gold or whatever the “base” currency is from the weapon shop.

[@FlameHazeVT]

On one hand I understand that the random mission select is annoying, but on the other hand it could end up making the gameplay slightly more varied because you might just run that damnation you aren't looking for. Being able to select the missions you want to play could lead in just running the same missions over and over.

[@willschreck88]

Back when the closed beta was out and I played it unhappily, I said "I can't wait for 2 years from now when a bunch of youtubers will have videos titled with such things as 'DarkTide in 2024 is Actually Good Now?!'" I will not be taking requests for my divine sight powers.

[@leadpaintchips9461]

You and nearly everyone who played at the time, who had experience with Fatshark's time table. It wasn't that much of a prediction to see that's how it was going to play out.

[@Herr_Affe]

Stay out of my mind, witch!

[@simplythecat4068]

If Darktide would get a new class, what would it even be? Especially considering that you need three variations of it. Combat Skitarii? Servitor? Some kind of space pirate/contrabandist? WH 40k is already quite limited because everything has to be within lore and cannon of the setting but darktide is even more so since we're just playing as some murderhobos that were forcefully conscripted into the saveloy squad, not some kind of sisters of battle, space marines, and inquisition.

[@coaiemandushman1079]

Skitarii, obciously.

[@darrakg6183]

Funny Votann mercenary would be cool

[@simplythecat4068]

@@coaiemandushman1079 can skitarii even go to jail, we're convicted rejects, after all

[@coaiemandushman1079]

@@simplythecat4068 why not. Questioning authority, since they are not techpriests but skitarii. Even techpriests question authority and disagree, so even that could be a class. Or an Enginseer class could even work.

[@Arekusando]

@@coaiemandushman1079 Maaan, imagine the personalized roasting by Hadron if we ever played as Skitarii that fell from grace and was considered malfunctioning. Hadron and Kayex lamenting over your faulty brains like Statler and Waldorf. 💀

[@ufuk5872]

I think if you been there done that with your best in slot, there one mission for you to play. that about it, you still put thrust on your hammer, veteran still 2 shot crusher with revolver. Ogryn still rely heavily on heavy bleed. Psyker either useful or its dead bot.

[@vineveer4358]

Just because darktide wasn't really a finished product two years ago doesn't mean its a bad game now. It looks exciting! Between Helldivers 2, Space Marine 2, and Darktide, we're rather spoiled for choice on good co-op hoard shooters. Don't discount Deep Rock Galactic too. Maybe they should add a gene-stealer cult to Darktide so we can have more buggos.

[@Katalmach11b]

It'll take them 4 more years at minimum to release a new faction. They'll probably announce something like that and get the hype rolling, then go on vaccation for 7 months, then come back, be silent for 2 months, release a hot fix every other week for 4 more months, then put out another big announcement that the new enemy faction will be released in just 6 more months! Then 6 months will go by, and they'll go on vaccation for 2 months again, then they'll say it's delayed, and finally, a year later, they just won't release it. That's how Fatshark does business. idk why anybody plays their games anymore

[@trolltalwar]

@@Katalmach11b stop crying you pseudo proletariat

[@calebbarnhouse496]

The problem with calling itba good game now is that it's still just a watered down version of v2, still nowhere near as much content as that game had at launch, while also using shitloads of animations enemy desighns, and skills and perks from v2 to cut down on development time

[@trolltalwar]

@@calebbarnhouse496 darktide is a great game. i cant stand gamers. have a problem with everything and are satisfied with nothing.

[@calebbarnhouse496]

@@trolltalwar yea we aren't satisfied by shitty remakes

[@gangstersnow]

just redownloaded the game today after not playing since about a month after the release, looking forward to seeing all the new systems.

[@thesqartenprogram]

I played a little bit after the skill tree rework. I think I'll come back after they add new classes and more missions and stuff. (what would really get me to come back would be that story they promised in the beginning.)

[@Herr_Affe]

Bold of you to assume they'll actually do that. Look at how long it took them to do _this_ What they should do is rework all classes to give them extra depth, add new subclasses, add more gear slots, then they can add a new class. I feel like adding a new class when the others are already underwhelming will just make players play the new class exclusively. It's the kind content you can enjoy for maybe 2 weeks before getting bored with it.

[@thesqartenprogram]

@@Herr_Affe they're going to add new classes (assuming it doesn't die before then.) I never said it was what they were gonna do next tho. Like could be 3 years away for all I know. Aside from that I imagine if they are going to rework the classes then they will do that in tandem with making the new one cause that would probably be the easiest thing to do. Assuming the new class needs new stuff made for it. Could be the new class fits well in the current mold then they probably won't do anything, night be powered crept but if it fits in the current mold that's not hard to fix.

[@Redditor6079]

Why are people obsessing over new classes? Every class in Darktide currently is fully capable of tackling any threat.

[@Herr_Affe]

@@Redditor6079 people like variety. "Being capable of tackling any threat" is a moot point. Ogryns can tackle any threat. Should the Ogryn be the only class in the game? You can only Smite, Assail, and Brain Rupture an enemy so many times before it gets repetitive. And it's not like there's much to do in Darktide's endgame, anyhow. A new class could also add a host of new interactions, which is something players enjoy.

[@Redditor6079]

@@Herr_Affe I suppose. Perhaps they could add a skitarri reject with engineering and healing support abilities. They could also add in an enemy engineer to create more of a need for this role. The engineer would go around placing booby traps on doorways, Medicaid stations and inside chests. A new threat could also be a minefield mission modifier that spawns mines in a few select, randomized zones at the start of the mission. The Skitarri would be able to reveal these for allies in Coherency.

[@twilightfossil6403]

I want to be able to play with bots like in vermintide

[@Demonsouls1993]

my whole resaon for not getting this game im not playing with randoms who will be asshats

[@nukem8128]

​@@Demonsouls1993 pathetic

[@marcussachse9353]

Wait what if you cant find any players? If you play like 6am or something, you just cant play then? Ofc it will need a bot system atleast in some point

[@garnhamr]

i'd love to see some lush green nature rich areas for a complete contrast to the norm

[@gonozal8_962]

idk about that lore-wise and the industrial setting is one of my main appeals in this game

[@Redditor6079]

Grimdark.

[@Sperpurber]

⁠Corruption inside some noble's garden terrace high up in the hive is almost plausible, and if it's not then who cares

[@G1NZOU]

I don't know how that would work, the Hourglass is further on the edge of the hive and demonstrates how barren and inhospitable the external environment is, imagine industrial wasteland and depleted ecosystem and that's pretty much the rest of the planet. We could go deeper into the underhive into maybe sections where they grow algae for food, maybe a section where it's abandoned and overgrown with mosses and other stuff, or perhaps somewhere in the upper hive where the ruling class have a more pleasant greenhouse style of botanical garden. The Carnival and Void were well received as map areas, one more section to add to the variety would be nice.

[@MrMRMONKEY232]

Played like 3 missions in 2022 and was done. Heard about all the updates and big on this month and jumped back in. It's all I've been playing for the last few days. The mastery system is top tier imo. The skill tree still feels like a lot of jargon cause I'm still acclimating to warhammer phrasing of things but the depth is nice

[@Herr_Affe]

Depth? There's too little depth. Be sure to update us in a week or two. The game is fun when you're grinding levels and upgrading your gear. It gets boring pretty quickly after you reach your power cap, which happens fairly quickly. Compared to something like Diablo IV, the game really feels shallow in terms of developing your character, especially with its legendary items that fundamentally change how some skills work.

[@gameguy301]

Mastery gained from BEFORE the update actually comes from how the blessing you had in the sticker book, usage was not taken into account prior to this update.

[@andarara-c1p]

I would love the standard lasgun had an auto mode after upgrading the level so my mouse doesn't break

[@gharn2594]

I would not be opposed to them adding an auto-fire mode in the game settings. Where you could just hold down the fire button and any weapon would just continue to fire as soon as it was able to. I probably wouldn't use it myself, but more options are good. Would this solve your problem?

[@andarara-c1p]

@@gharn2594 yes. That could be an option

[@Andrew-cs1td]

lol what? They have full auto version of the Lasguns. Experiment with the different types. I know the recon versions are full auto, but also some of the others.

[@andarara-c1p]

@@Andrew-cs1td Lol, what? I would just like the standard variant to have the auto mode as well

[@Andrew-cs1td]

@@andarara-c1p then what would be the point in having different lasguns? There should just be one lasgun with different firing modes?

[@BIGACORN]

This is great info. Haven't played Darktide since release month in '22. Just heard about this new update and glad that the game has been tuned up.

[@streetwisehercules9956]

STEPS in the right direction, 2 years after full launch, isn't good enough

[@OTOMAGIC]

Steps... You call those steps, ok man. The only thing the game now shares with it's original self is basically just the classes' names.

[@SneakyGenius]

We have been beta testing the game until recently.

[@K3nji_S]

I would love to see a new class or more variations of the classes we have. I just hope they have the resources for it

[@ryanadams0922]

got the game from Humble bundle. Just started last night wondering what I should do. THanks for the upload

[@gamerguy6571]

definitely needs the beautiful nature areas. Love me some wheat fields/razor grain

[@Marchochias]

You're right Zerkovich, this is absolutely the state the game should have been in at launch. That said, for me it is too little too late. The absolutely glacial pace of new content coming out is a joke for a "live service" game that was very content-light on release. They also hyped up stuff like weapon customization, adding scopes to your weapons etc before launch, as well as a great narrative written by Dan Abnett, and two years later neither of those things are here, and may never be. I completely agree that the Vermintide 2 unique maps that had a lot of visual and gameplay variety were much superior to Darktide's maps that reuse parts of each other and almost feel like you're playing in a Diablo style randomly generated dungeon with a hive city sewer tileset. The few missions they have on the top of the hive where you can see the exterior that actually have some visual variety are great but in two years they have yet to add anything like that to the game. The new train map, the only map they added this entire year is about 10 minutes long to complete and feels pretty gimmicky.

[@BrattisGamer]

I totally agree! I think darktide is totally a great game (I've got 900 hours in it) and thats a good amount of hours to get out of a game.. But the only thing that carried the game was the gameplay and how it feels so great. Even with 900 hours ingame I feel dissapointed about the game and think it could have been so much more than it was at launch (and more than it is now). Also that they consider it "content" even tho its really just them fixing the game for 2 years is a little bit.. hiding the truth? I dunno im not too invested in my opinion of the game.

[@eduardovega7272]

There is a running joke in the Darktide community as to how frequent FS takes breaks, so for example, if you want another map or playable class, i estimate it to be in around 2-3 vacation seasons

[@SlytherpuffHouse]

Secrets of the Machine God came out in June this year and added the Iced Forge map. The Train map is also obviously Fat Shark experimenting with a kind of map that's faster produce, the original maps are gigantic environments that get different areas opened and closed off to create different paths. Making something smaller for short missions has a much faster turnaround than something sprawling like that.

[@jhart0512]

as far as cosmetics go you forgot to mention the ability to unlock some through penances. that is also another really nice system they added sometime this year. as someone who put in nearly 1000 hours the first year the game released, i do plan on returning now for probably another couple 100 or hours.

[@Landscape_]

i just recently started playing trough gamepass, such an awesome experience, even better when other players join you. I just wish you could pick the missions or at least it shows what maps you have already played

[@jamesthefront2246]

I honestly feel like the thing they need in DT is a whole new enemy type. Orcs or genestealers. Similar to VT2, the mix of chaos and skaven then later the beastmen was so much and is still so much fun.

[@CedricTheMad]

Orcs or actual Nids. We don't want just more tainted humans to slay. They could have Rippers for dregs, Hormagaunts and termies for slightly higher tier, Warriors with different weaponry for elites etc.

[@MONTR65]

​@CedricTheMad Nah genestealer humans with proper Tyranids as Elites or boss level enemies. I think making all new completely different enemy types like regular Tyranids would take way too long

[@shadowrobot7708]

All I want are some good fully enclosed helmets. I know the psyker and veteran have a few but the Zealot and Ogryn have like one each at best.

[@richardgaldos6901]

I see people saying it in chat but its worth saying attention. No reason to delete your characters. Mastery is account wide. It has nothing to do with characters

[@solaufein1374]

I also went back to play Darktide yesterday

[@acmaiden5236]

Just to be clear, masteries are account wide. Starting a new character wont need to relearn everything (except for his unique weapons ofc). It's still worth coming back if you were annoyed at not having "perfect" weapons tho, as they are super easy to craft now if you had gathered lots of resources

[@lonurad1259]

but you still can't add weapon attachments? They said you would be able to 3 years ago... I don't want to run iron sights on my las carbine

[@AnythingsPossible92]

theres a mod for that. I run a red dot sight on my Zealots revolver lol

[@nerf3664]

Me and the boys just picked it up (after Space Marine 2) and have been loving it!!

[@crispb]

Thanks for the update. was curious to see how the game was holding up. but as you said. already have all the characters, loadouts, weapons, running pub auric damnations, got majority of in-game achievements, and all of the steam achievements. I don't know why they dropped Vermintide before adding Sienna's last class, to focus on Darktide, then when in the middle of Darktide to drop it to focus on Vermintide (pvp, map, seasonal, etc). Extremely messy and I probably won't be returning until it looks like Fatshark are solely focused on further improving Darktide.

[@rathenn6959]

Not played since prior to skilltrees, this looks great - solid video Zerk. Glad to see you covering other WH games a bit.

[@rock2k14]

Its just a shame it still has a shop full of disgusting FOMO.

[@Modrzew1988]

I've supported Fatshark since the first part of Vermintide, Vermintide II is one of my favourite games, I had high hopes for Darktide, but when the game came out we got a half-finished product that is years away from becoming a complete and competent game. It's sad, but I bounced off Darktide about a year ago and have no intention of going back, I prefer to install Vermintide II once again.

[@vancheng2000]

it is worth to try DT again. I tried switching back for VT2 and it felt like downgrade, thought VT2 was my favorite for years. It's subjective ofcourse, but just maybe give DT a try

[@Mindcry7181]

I so agree with Zerk on this, game needed to come out like this from the start.

[@Alex.af.Nordheim]

I wish there are more first person games that's like this on the market edit: like we got plenty third person ones to choose from, helldivers, space marine, but not much in first person

[@exodus146]

Just got back in yesterday, man!!! Feels like a whole different game, been loving it and looking forward to sinking another 200 hrs in

[@alexander60304]

Thanks for the video! I decided to try this game for the first time after it went on sale and I only learned of the new update after I started playing 🤣

[@olenhol2przez4]

1. Masteries are account wide 2. There is mod that allows you to have many more characters and it works after uninstalling it

[@badrobotsanta]

Considering cosmetics is their main reveue stream I doubt they will change that, and in wow you need to buy the basegame, and then pay a subscription, plus they have a loads of paid for services and pets etc.

[@Dr.Akakia]

They should have learn from DeepRockGalactic System

[@DemonicToasterShark]

honestly adding a skitarii/admech class would be cool

[@ludantikasmith2869]

maybe they could make more mission windows so each difficulty has matches in it's own "window" when looking at mission instead of just "normal" and "auric"?

[@calebbarnhouse496]

You know a game is shit when a suggestion as simple as let people choose the difficulty level they want to play would make the game significantly better

[@leowalker6396]

Really all that they need to fix with Darktide now is the stability of the game, and cutting load times out of the 10 min range

[@Albatorwow]

10 minutes load time ranges?? Are you playing on half a potato? My 10 year old beast pc fould load the game in 2-3 minutes top. My new pc loads in seconds lol

[@kyusyn2765]

Pretty much exactly my feelings on the update, only thing I'd argue is I rather like the rotating available missions, compared to Vermintide where the host got to pick the mission freely, so like 90%+ of all of the lobbies available were just the first level because it was the one people knew best and could generally do the fastest since it's all anyone ran (I like Horn of Magnus, but when I've done it 10+ times in a row I kinda get sick of it...). It's a fine way to get around folks just queueing up for the same 'optimal' mission over and over again, keeps things fresh. That being said, having more than just 4 options per difficulty available (plus the harder Auric missions for higher levels) would be nice though. Especially when there's an event going on (like now) where you have to run the ONE mission with the event modifier that's available of the difficulty you prefer to make progress in the event.

[@Echolaliaxu]

fatshark has this reoccuring dev cycle where their new title tries something completely different that doesn't work for itemization and then they settle for what has worked before after a year or two after release, the period during which players ask for the old itemization anyways they kinda went the extra mile with darktide now though, giving us more control over the items

[@AlexisyFR]

Am I the only one who didn't get a lot of weapons mastered despite having played a lot?

[@Fr33man]

I think expecting fatshark to make unique makes in darktide becasue vermintide was more diverse it silly. Everything in vermintide apart from the npc's and characters is found in a real world. To generate unique maps here would be much harder. Its much easier to design an open grass field than a hive city.

[@darthgonk5648]

Boss is gonna milk us dry before they even bother to actually put some new drip in the commissary

[@dreamforger7166]

What about penance system? It now grants even more cosmetics. So they are earnable (and has always been).

[@Colleywoodstudios]

They need to add ratlings or a squat. Let us rock bardin properly!

[@Broekhart]

I already put >600 hours into Darktide since release. I really want to like it again, now that it's "complete", but it'll have to be long enough for the game to be almost unrecognizable before I can really dig into it again. Helldivers 2 has helped fill that void, and I hope both games' developers continue the good work.

[@TheInfamousBertman]

I never played it at all because of the issues. I'm glad to hear they've improved it and I was happy to see it's 50% off, so I bought it and will be playing. Thanks for the info

[@Tichondrius1]

Damn, I've never seen the game run this smoothly how is this possible?

[@VaanTythonus]

Ahh, my "strategy" of only playing the Ogryn has paid off, cause I now have three classes to play with proper talents, mastery & weapon crafting. Glorious!

[@Calx9]

As a long time player, no. If you didn't like it to start you won't like it now. The game is almost identically the exact same, especially game playwise. Only thing that has changed really is how you turn your materials into gear. That's it. Same gear. Just easier to make a build. These videos are kinda bait honestly.

[@DaGravityMan]

Got the game a week ago and love it, despite ragequit inducing team mates. One note, the Catachan Jungle Fighter Knife should be EARNED, not be a basic beginner weapon. Variety is the name of the game, as many different Lazguns, Autoguns, and swords as possible. Every wiki entry should be represented.

[@CasualTS]

They did add a lot of "earnable" cosmetics when they revamped the penance system

[@xaendark]

what's brutally missing are unlockable weapon skins

[@talaris-uk]

You get some when you finish the mastery path of a particular weapon type.

[@xaendark]

@@talaris-uk already got those. But that's now 3 skins instead of 2 .. I mean, compare this with the customization options from Space Marine 2 and you can see why people don't talk about Darktide

[@6tango16]

For some reason in the new update, I try to join with my inferno staff, but then it changes the weapon to a voidstrike. My build relies on using the flamethrower staff and the game changes it to the ball thrower and it's super annoying!

[@MysticLuka]

Might be loadout related? I'd mess around with your loadouts and see if that fixes it. That's a weird issue

[@swaggadash9017]

Just got to come out on the playstation and boost the player numbers. Vermintide 2 was quite big on playstation.

[@danizen]

My PC is no big deal but it runs Cyberpunk pretty well on High settings. I was confident I was not gonna have issues with DT but holy Emperor's Faeces, somehow my rig becomes a potato with wires when I start this game. Still, some of the most fun I've had in a while. Gotta keep that fire extinguisher handy just in case, I can *smell* the varnish of my desk evaporating when the big hordes appear.

[@BrokenPineapple]

More levels and new class!

[@baransenyuz9382]

The game takes 2 years to get in a mission. Thats what puts me off

[@ReaperGrimm5594]

I feel like now that the game itself is in a good spot, we'll be getting way more missions

[@NickelW]

Another thing to note, the performance is WAY better than it was at launch

[@F0XRunner]

Darktide feels really good now. Only problem is I have been playing on and off the whole time and the content releases are...... very slow

[@Heavynaut]

I would not recommend full on deleting a character. its ultimately inconsequential but I'd say MAKE a new character instead of deleting your progress (*if* you have an open character slot). imo this is the best way to experience the progression from square one while not losing inventories full of items that could be turned into weapon mastery xp, ordo dockets (money), and crafting materials. The game is in a great place now of days. Plenty of customization, earnable cosmetics, fun gameplay loop has been ever more improved upon. This new mastery system has made it exponentially easier to get consistent performing *good* gear (*good, the game with grays even on damnation is not that hard, *perfect* modifier stats is largely unnecessary its just a little mguffin to chase). I do agree, more missions, mission types/objectives, interactables inside of missions, and eventually a new class would be perfect. Maybe I'm coping but a new class this holiday would hit pretty hard; plenty of people will be looking for games on sale, games to play with friends, and might catch wind that DT is finally in full-release quality. Add a couple missions and an exciting new class? Big discounts too, usually I see the game what 40-50% off? Easy buy for a group of friends who've been debating or watching at a distance, or have had a couple people in the group who have had the game and can finally convince others to jump in. Darktide has always been a great game, plagued by tedious and annoying progression systems. With that mostly gone, it is just a great game that needs more content. I am hopeful that with many of the issued systems being fixed, Fatshark can focus on adding cool things, and progress the story.

[@friendlyspacedragon7250]

I've been having a good time with the update. Never got into the horrible weapon upgrade grind so there's a lot for me to unlock and try out. Definitely a better system than the old one. And definitely agree with the things that should come next.

[@V1Z13R]

It's one of the most satisfying games I've ever played. What it does well it does better than anyone. So worth it.

[@naquito3000]

I'm just waiting for the 'Chaos wastes' mode for Darktide

[@KevinoftheCosmos]

I played a little on Gamepass, but then quickly dropped it due to prefering Verrmintide 2 vastly more. I just now snagged it on Steam for $16.99, which seems like a steal. It's good to know that starting from scratch is ideal at this current time. And that the progression improvements are significant. I'm jumping in today after finishing the Boltgun DLC. If I play it 1/2 as much as I played Vemintide, I'll be playing for a long ass time. Pretty dang hyped, tbh.

[@coffeeandcereals]

I still return to the game here and there. Sometime you just crave that yummy combat!

[@Poogs]

I want a scope or some other sight for the helbore.

[@-Thunder-Warrior-]

"Wait... We'z back? Get da Rippa!!"

[@arkkyan]

So what does the game add for those with high end gear and likely maxed out levels? No shade, but I was tempted to return, but now I'm concerned there will still be nothing to do?

[@baraakimo7037]

I will be playing this game soon, good news thanks!

[@jaybberwocky]

Thank you for the breakdown @Zerkovich ! I just reinstalled after not having played for about a year, and only had a vague grasp on what the new systems were. Glad they've finally woken the fuck up 2 years later 🙄 Maybe now they'll actually release some new content XD

[@airport2327]

i think i might actually try darktide out for the first time looks like a game id grind

[@Alex.....]

I've been playing from the beginning and never cared much about all the grinding stuff. The gameplay has been great from the beginning and that's what counts.

[@heatnup]

Warhammer 40k Darktide is awesome. I have been playing it for the first time the past few months and it is sooooo much fun.

[@herosupport1606]

yeah maths hard for fatshark some of the weapons can have a max potential of 4 80 and a 39 not kidding that was one of my weapons after the update fed it to the sacrifice mechanic.

[@Starcraftgamer97]

I just wish the game had a horde mode type game mode. I get that it's a horde shooter but I'm talking a non story based survival horde mode; kind of like World War Z. Stand your ground against ever increasing hordes, build up defenses with earned currency, and earn rewards based on how long you go. Then again, I'm a little bias towards that style of gameplay and sometimes want to just shut my brain off and mulch a horde of enemies with my friends. Always felt a dedicated game mode like that could have helped certain games survive longer.

[@thanhdo1963]

does the game have better optimization now?

[@operator9858]

i went back recently and the spam was so bad i started getting carpal tunnel and the challenge still seems based on occasionally trying to overwhelm you with stunlocking enemies from every direction. better off playing forever winter honestly.

[@escadora2206]

i honestly stopped playing mostly because the missions felt very repetitive and all felt the same. no unique bosses or events. Doing the same thing 10 times was just boring :(

[@jackjazzhands2357]

Time to play again :3