Why Does FGC Love These Games?

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DashFight

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@DashFight Ай бұрын

What are your personal non-fighting game favorites?

@Tuskumo Ай бұрын

God of war most definitely I'm still learning devil may cry I still play fighting games not as often as i used to 😅

@MegafanX123 Ай бұрын

Megaman and Persona

@D3Vlicious Ай бұрын

Racing games. Because in between matches on the cab in the arcade, we'd also get some runs in on Initial D, Maximum Tune or Daytona.

@SolidBren 29 күн бұрын

I love 2D action platformers, like the Mega Man, Castlevania and Metroid series. I play Dr. Mario 64 against my mom, usually handicapping myself to play at virus level 20 while my mom plays on virus level 14. Sometimes we play other old school puzzle vs games like Tetris, Pac-Attack, Kirby’s Avalanche, and Pokemon Puzzle League. But we have just been addicted mostly to Dr. Mario. The speed and momentum of it feels kinda like a fighting game. I bet I’d love Puzzle Fighter.

@dominiccasts 27 күн бұрын

From Soft games and Crosscode for singleplayer, though Crosscode is somewhat adjacent to both shmups and beat-em-up games (even has a scored arcade mode style optional section in the post-game); RTS games for multiplayer. I've even randomly gotten into conversations about obscure RTS games at fighting game majors because someone else there brought them up, so I don't think I'm alone on that one

@mcbill7352 Ай бұрын

I think fighting game players are probably drawn to mechanically interesting games and good character designs.

@testhekid 29 күн бұрын

funnily enough those 2 things are what draws people into the genre

@awepsalmgamin Ай бұрын

DMC has a built-in fighting game mechanic, you can do combos with it just like a fighting game

@gangofheroes Ай бұрын

Well DMC is basically just a Beat'em Up/Hack n Slash/Shoot'em up hybrid which are all sibling genres with fighting games being birth around the same time by the same people.

@theuzi8516 Ай бұрын

DMC3, the start of modern DMC, was designed explicitly with SF3, MvC2 and CvS2 in mind. Itsuno has an interview talking about how his involvement in FGs informed his deaign decisions on DMC3. He even calls Swordmaster the MvC2 style and Royal Guard the SF3 style. (Trickster is DMC1 and Gunslinger is "Dante".)

@totalhydration5240 Ай бұрын

@@gangofheroes DMC is as much a shoot em up as a Ryu player spamming hadouken (except maybe DMC2)

@productplacementadz24-73 Ай бұрын

As a FGC member whose 1st video game ever was Tekken 4 and whose favourite game of all time is DMC3, this video is unsettlingly true.

@strippinheat Ай бұрын

Lots of fighting game players also enjoy turn-based JRPGs. That's why several of them were used as a basis for fighting games, like Persona 4 and Granblue.

@glacierwolf2155 Ай бұрын

I think that an important link between fighting games and beat-em-up games is the fact that Final Fight, the father of the beat-em-up genre, initially started out as a sequel to the original Street Fighter.

@ShinUltima 27 күн бұрын

Not sure I'd call _Final Fight_ "the father of the beat-em-up genre". Not only was FF not the first beat-em-up, it wasn't even the first mega-hit beat-em-up (pretty sure that was _Double Dragon_ ). Not that FF wasn't massively influential, but it wasn't to beat-em-ups like SF was to fighting games (there were fighting games before SF2, but they were largely irrelevant, including SF1).

@raykincaid684 29 күн бұрын

I put Sekiro in this line up too, it was the first souls like game i ever played....and because the parry system was like a fighting game (to me) i felt right at home.

@fastestblader4968 28 күн бұрын

6:12 I KNEW I WOULD SEE A RHYTHM GAME HERE. I actually made a powerpoint presentation on the similarities between the two genres for my English class

@TheRadioSquare Ай бұрын

I'm seeing Virtual On footage and it's making me think that maybe Armored Core fits into this as well. AC arena fights and bosses have that real 1v1 intensity with a healthy mix of skill and guessing that can feel in fighting games.

@americashypest3727 Ай бұрын

You forgot about FF14, the FGC retirement home

@Wolvahulk Ай бұрын

I've only gotten back into FGs last year and FFXIV is already about the only MMO I actually enjoy... Damn.

@pointguard909 Ай бұрын

There’s nothing like getting insanely tilted playing an fg then hopping on 14, true bliss

@NeoZiggy92 Ай бұрын

For me, you can replace that with Pokémon. Hahaha

@tobiderbias2102 Ай бұрын

What about chess? 1v1, complex move Set... Learning a chess opening is Like learning a chararacter. The way you can discuss chess tactics reminds me of discussion about frame data. I video that compares fighting games with chess would be cool.

@preBLANK Ай бұрын

I would say learning musical instruments are like learning fighting games too

@warrenbradford2597 Ай бұрын

Devil May Cry is my favorite series listed in this video. It is one of, if not THE coolest Hack n Slash games ever made.

@bzchoy 29 күн бұрын

As a fan of oldstyle 2d fighters, you nailed the reasons why I'm also into Ninja Gaiden and beat'em ups!

@ShinobiX8 Ай бұрын

Pretty insane how Hideki Kamiya the creator of Devil May Cry wasn't even a fighting game fan and still created the greatest action game series ever, twice.

@pppp-by1bq 29 күн бұрын

DMC1 has people with experience in fighting games. Even the people who were making fighting games at SNK. Also, almost all 3D action games are derived from fighting games or beat'em up. Modern action games tend to have less of an arcade essence and more emphasis on realism, so it's hard to feel a connection, but their origins can be traced back to fighting and beat'em up.

@ShinobiX8 29 күн бұрын

@ Beat em ups for sure, Kamiya loves his arcade games, don't think gives a rats about fighting games. I believe he name dropped Onimusha and Resident Evil is the obvious one. But yeah it's interesting how DMC came into existence by a guy who knows the in's and outs of action games with seemingly minimal fighting game experience.

@pppp-by1bq 28 күн бұрын

@@ShinobiX8 Besides Kamiya-san, other fighting game developers also played important roles in Devil May Cry. For example, someone who was involved in "KOF" at SNK was heavily involved in the action motions of Devil May Cry. Similarly, action games such as God Hand also involve Capcom and former SNK arcade game developers. Incidentally, Devil May Cry was heavily influenced by the combat design of Ocarina of Time. Kamiya himself spoke about this in detail in 2001. Tecmo also said that the Ninja Gaiden reboot was heavily influenced by the combat design of Ocarina of Time.

@ShinobiX8 28 күн бұрын

@ Makes sense, Kamiya's favorite game seems to be A Link to the Past. As for the KOF guy, KOF derived from SF1 and SF1 derived from A Beat Em Up. No doubt working on fighting games helped but I think Beat Em Ups had more intentional influence on DMC than fighting games did.

@pppp-by1bq 28 күн бұрын

@@ShinobiX8 It's not just DMC, Ocarina of Time's combat design had a huge influence on the 3D action genre, along with fighting and beat'em ups. And as I've said many times before, modern 3D action game design, including DMC, is unavoidably influenced by fighting games and beat'em ups. (That's what Capcom itself says.) In the first place, Street Fighter 2, which is the foundation of the fighting game genre, is based on Final Fight (and SF1), which solidified the basic design of Beat'em Up.(To be fair, there would be no Final Fight without SNK's POW. The game designs for Final Fight and POW are based heavily on Technos Japan's Kunio-kun and Double Dragon.) Fighting games and belt-scroll action (beat 'em up) are sibling genres.

@mar_tintin8393 Ай бұрын

You forgot Catherine and "puzzle" competitive games

@LesserCheshire Ай бұрын

Aye, man is a Machine Girl fan.

@ShinUltima 27 күн бұрын

If I had to put my head on a block when asked about what non-fighting game genres I like, it would be JRPGs, shmups, and run&guns.

@chasepalumbo2929 Ай бұрын

Excellent list, people always love to ignore shmups when it comes to these lists

@WARLORD626 Ай бұрын

Urban Reign.Bloody Roar, Ninety 9 Nights 2,3.Zelda Twilight Princesses,Fist of the North star Kens rage.Transformers prime Wii,Anarchy reigns, Predator Alien game ps2,Nier, Drakenguard 3 has teir Dragon Mount combo's.Onechanbara Zero Werewolf Apocalypse.

@jbrzzle1085 26 күн бұрын

Honestly surprised there wasn’t a souls game on here or monster hunter or even resident evil

@radicalcentrist4990 Ай бұрын

My most favorite franchises that are not fighting games: Witcher, GTA, Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Batman Arkham, Command & Conquer, Starcraft, Warcraft, Star Wars KOTOR, Mass Effect, Halo, Persona, Devil May Cry, Diablo. Except for DMC, Batman and maybe Monster Hunter, these franchises have nothing in common with fighting games. Although I've liked these franchises for much longer than when I've got into fighting games.

@tauntlizardkid Ай бұрын

Batman be putting paws on people bro he be beating people worse than kiryu

@chasepalumbo2929 Ай бұрын

Man that’s some truly horrible taste my friend

@EMGGYourImagination Ай бұрын

I'm really surprised that there isn't one puzzle game on here! Especially since a lot of them use their own method of combos.

@dj_koen1265 28 күн бұрын

i like to play fighting games casually, mostly old fighting games, i also enjoy playing starcraft 1 casually, and other than that i have enjoyed playing redout2 in the past year as well

@saulstryver836 Ай бұрын

R.T.S have always appealed to me. Most notably age of empires 2.

@CookinKungFu Ай бұрын

Anything From Software. Path of Exile is pretty nice.

@TheRadioSquare Ай бұрын

That's an interesting one. A lot of FGC dudes I know are into PoE, I wonder what specifically grabs them though. Just down mechanical depth maybe?

@theuzi8516 Ай бұрын

I think it's worth looking at whether there is a link between fav FG and what non-FGs someone plays. People I know who dislike FromSoft games also aren't that big on post-IV Street Fighter, for example, but almost all who like UNI also play DMC. The inverse isn't true, btw--peeps I know who are DMC fiends tend to like faster FGs (ans play a wider variety of FGs) while FromSoft fiends I know mostly stick to the newest SF.

@brianpbillingsley3687 Ай бұрын

I took a liking to the Vanillaware games because they have some fighting game elements in their combat. Not surprisingly, Vanillaware's founder is a former Capcom employee.

@freshboy3968 Ай бұрын

U talking of Odin Sphere, right?

@brianpbillingsley3687 Ай бұрын

@freshboy3968 Bingo! Also Dragon's Crown has a similar feel.

@djdedan Ай бұрын

VOOT spotted! But sadly not mentioned - what the what!!!???

@ixaac453 28 күн бұрын

ay whats the game at 0:57 that looks cool

@pppp-by1bq 29 күн бұрын

Unfortunately, even though fighting games and beat'em up laid the foundation for all action games, the former are more complex and harder to learn than most 3d action games, and the latter are relatively niche. Japan, now a nation of mobile games, has recently started making 3d action and fighting games again, but beat'em up has almost completely stopped making both 2d and 3d games. It is a pity that God Hand and others were not understood by the Westerners of that era and were beaten to a pulp.(The 2000s was a time when JRPGs, and other Japanese games in general, began to be viewed with hostility in the West.)

@diomarkov2794 25 күн бұрын

fighting games are not hard to learn. Sajam just made another video about that.

@mrpinguimninja Ай бұрын

If a FGC player is wanting to pick up a TCG, probably Flesh and Blood will feel even more at home than MtG. If you watch a few FaB matches and understand its systems, it's as close as it could possibly get to a fighting game match

@agni2051 Ай бұрын

FF14 and Monster Hunter were forgotten

@lordgrim1842 Ай бұрын

"You gotta learn the matchup on rathalos, lab him" moments😂😂

@boringinu2077 Ай бұрын

god, all of games these video mention i played plenty of time. sdvx、ng series、dmc、danmaku、beatemup、shadowverse(??)。but for the love of god please don't let DoDonPachi be your first danmaku try touhou instead DoDonPachi is very very hard core danmaku games.