Is Field of Glory: KINGDOMS the right game for YOU?

[@Another_opinion_]

I would very much appreciate a series of guides or playthroughs. I think your exposition skills are above most of the usual yt channels.

[@fbalter]

Not quite sure about Kingdoms yet, but back with Empires, on modern machines, both games were light enough that you could often just keep both FoG2 and FoG:E open and running at the same time, so instead of quitting one and opening the other when exporting battles, you could just export, alt+tab, do the battle, and then alt+tab back.

[@jims_bot133]

Thanks DasTactic, really appreciate your work as always. This looks like a must try alongside FoG:E, which I loved - and looks superior to CK2/3 in some ways, and I appreciate the design sets the historical stage to play from, rather than nudging the player back towards history through scripting and events. If its anything like Empires, I'm sure this will be fantastic.

[@eddieballgame]

Thank you, Das, as always. First day purchase & if this is, anywhere, near as good as FoG:Empires...I will be most delighted. :)

[@qubix8327]

Thanks for the very nice overview & summary! This was a great refresher for me. I previously played Empires and absolutely loved it, but it was a few years ago so I had forgotten some of the basics. Diving into Kingdoms now!

[@levsharus5899]

Thank you for your great review of the game. Can you expand on differences between Empires and Kingdoms in your new video? Because I cannot see any so far. And especially I would like to know if they changed that annoying system of new buildings construction from Empires. When you chose a specialisation of a new construction but a particular building was picked up randomly by AI. And you never knew how to reach some particular building in a construction tree. I hated this system.

[@ivilivo]

I'd also like to know this.

[@michaeldickinson90]

Thankyou for the informative video. I love Medieval History and would certainly enjoy this game... but I already have Empires, Crusader Kings III, Civilization VI, both Field of Glory II games and multiple versions of Total-War. I prefer having a balance of games, for varieties sake (ie. 1st person shooters, RPG's, SCI-FI, etc.), so I'm a little concerned that getting this new entry would be too much of a good thing for me and compete with life in general and what little remaining time I can spare! 🤨 Apart from the family additions and covering a later time-period, I'd like to know about any compelling reasons why gameplay is improved or expanded from Field of Glory Empires.

[@seasand6705]

Love your stuff. In depth assessment

[@Person0fColor]

This is a great game. I have field of glory 2, medieval, empires and kingdoms all great historical games such as break from the ahistorical fantastical total war games of late.

[@Bbruin420]

Great video idea. Ive been wondering how it compares to CK2/3 which are some of my most played games.

[@RichardPhillips1066]

It looks very different to me , ck3 focused on maintaining a dynasty, fog2 strictly a strategy game

[@thewise3551]

Fair one taking on ck2. But that games in a league of its own. This might be good for people who don't like the character heavy ck games though.

[@rogue7744]

Ty Das! Excellent material and thoughts as usual. Very much appreciate your time! An auto-buy for me!

[@Deltium5683]

This game looks superb.

[@ivilivo]

Id like to know what's different from this game and the former - empires. From what I heard here, characters and a hint of historical events.

[@chadgoose7886]

You should play more of this!

[@ares106]

3:35 the Byzantine Empire was resurgent in 1054, not at all in a state of collapse.

[@LudoTechWorld]

In my head Fields of Glory was associated with wargame, which is not my cup of tea, so, if I haven't watched this video, I would have probably ignore this game while it's in fact a type of game I enjoy very much. Thanks!

[@qualitycontrol9267]

Yes lad. A mature older game reviewer. Right up my street.

[@stevenpaynter4463]

Great review.

[@OrangeNash]

How are turn times? The long turn times as the game progressed were the thing that put me of FOG: Empires. I notice Turn 1 took 40 seconds here, just wondering if that declines to 2 minutes by turn 100 - which it did for me in Empires. As my own turn was taking less than 2 minutes, you end up spending more of the game watching a progress bar than actually playing it.

[@spookrockcity]

Not bad at all so far but I haven't entered late game. Empires was notoriously bad for this.

[@justinboggin9086]

Are provinces like in Empires where they share resources if you control the critical mass, notably their food and infrastructure? If so is it again best to build one thing at a time? Or did they disable that and you are forced to be building something in every region?

[@ares106]

do you need all the medieval DLC to fight kingdoms battles?

[@spookrockcity]

yeah if you want to fight them manually, its bundled right now on steam for about 40

[@l.s.9095]

No, you just need the "FoG 2: Medieval" base game - the DLCs for this are NOT REQUIRED to play the battles from Kingdoms.

[@ares106]

@@l.s.9095 that’s what I was thinking after checking out the DLC, I think most of the Medieval DLC is outside the Kingdoms timeframe if I understand it correctly.

[@l.s.9095]

@@ares106 Aye, only the DLCs "Reconquista" & "Swords and Scimitars" are also within the games time frame and respectively cover army lists from Southern Europe and the Middle East/ India for this period. But I can assure you that they aren't needed to export any of your battles from Kingdoms.

[@chraanakhxattanach1639]

thanks das.

[@yoda5477]

Thanks for the video Small point that you insist this is a game about m managing region but somehow i don’t grasp what it means from your video. Maybe i missed something?

[@princeniccolo8299]

Can you just leave FOG: Medieval running along side Kingdoms? Or does it have to close and open every single battle?

[@mohammadkamelan1047]

Does this game have intrigue mechanics like Crusader Kings? Is it possible to win through strategic maneuvering and scheming?

[@spookrockcity]

Intrigue is mostly done by use of regional decisions. It's present in the game but in a much more macro state. Think of it as a much, much, more watered down of Crusader Kings when it comes to the grand strategy levers you have over the mechanics. Combat is king in the game due to the tie in with Field of glory 2 Medieval.

[@surters]

Your gonna play a series?

[@Zeek-Tomo]

Yes, it is!

[@jonathanshihadeh]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@stefanzl]

Can i play as Serbia?

[@pawmal1988]

yup but you must start Bizantines, make serbia vassal and change faction.

[@martin2289]

Oh, goody. Another 323 page manual to read...

[@cod1076]

I know I can't be the only person experiencing music and audio issues with the game. I have absolutely no music or sound in game, making it unplayable. I can play all other games with sound just fine. Just to test things out, I uninstalled and reinstalled the game 3 times and verified the files 3 times. I also just fired up FoG II, FoG II: Empires and FoG Medieval and the music/sound all work great in those games. Now I fire up Kingdoms. Dead. Nothing. I have 200 games and they all have sound, just not this one. The main menu buttons are cut off on the bottom of the screen. There are other UI problems. Really amateur stuff. I own all three of the FoG games and every SINGLE piece of DLC , so I have a right to complain. This is a day one mess. 36 hours later and I STILL CAN'T PLAY THIS GAME. NOT A HAPPY CUSTOMER HERE. I know Slitherine is a good company, but someone dropped on the ball on quality testing on this game and I don't believe the steam positive reviews. This game has major bugs that warrant real criticism by the gaming media here. Where are they?

[@jimanyon8143]

In Empires I was ok with the clunky battle export, switch game and load, because it was their first try and working out the kinks may not be worth it, for a co-op that might end up dead on arrival. But for the second game not fixing the number 1 QOL issue, when it has a clear solution, is just not ok.

[@tiagoferreira5368]

The objective of this game and Empires was never for people to play the battles themselves. Like the devs said it was a BONUS feature for players who owned both games and for people who really liked both. Personally i think it shouldn't be possible to fight battles of this game on FoG Medieval. I had a lot of fun in both games but i rather play them separately because the system is too slow, takes too much time to fight even the smallest battles and the objective of Empires/Kingdoms is for you to be the supreme ruler not a general on the field. For that i have FoG battle games.

[@endbringer241]

Yeah, I was hoping they'd make it more seamless, but at the same time it probably really isn't worth the effort because just like in Total War most people will just auto-resolve majority of battles anyway. It's fun to fight a battle every once in a while to spice up the campaign, but it really isn't the point of these games.

[@Steven-cf1ty]

This project had fewer people working on it than you imagine. The guy acknowledged it would be better if fully integrated, but that's a highly demanding venture for what is ultimately just a fun side feature

[@simonlancaster1815]

Also two different studios. Quite something that there is any transfer at all.

[@trashl0rd]

I play all battles with FoG2:M, no exceptions. Maximum immersion, control and tactics. My free time be damned. I've made terms with the clunky implementation, it is what it is. On a SSD the load times are negligible, anyway.

[@johngojcevic8731]

Oh wow I thought it was just an expanded version of FOG medieval. Not interested at all :(

[@jed2055]

....and we need to see your head because . . . .? No mate, not today or ever.

[@rhlm95]

I agree, there is no reason for it!

[@michibichi2212]

we do. makes it more personable

[@rikwilliams6352]

William the Bastard, as you mentioned, he won't become William the Conqueror for another 12 years... maybe. 👍

[@tkadezabek]

going to other game for battle, game braking for me....

[@pawmal1988]

bullshit

[@moidalize]

Recently replayed Field of Glory Empires and did not like it for the following reasons: - Didn't feel like I was specializing my regions, that I was just building everything everywhere. - No good way of managing slaves. - Outside of the satisfaction of painting the map and accruing legacy to win the game, there was often no good reason to go conquering. There was no kind of trade or loyalty or other bonus for expanding control over new areas, just more decadence to manage. Have they improved on that in this game?

[@johnlawlor5305]

Yes the previous game needed a detailed management screen for viewing slave populations in the various regions which was lacking and largely boiled down to guesswork. To be fair, conquering many rich regions would quickly increase gold revenues and access to cheap units from provinces, and helped grow your empire and afford mercenary armies/buy into the many governmental decisions that allowed for faster power gains. Decadence was managed by constructing lots of Cultural buildings to stave off decadence. This could be automated with province AI also. But optimal route was still micromanaging the regions and it got tedious if you couldn't accept letting the AI imperfectly manage the provinces. Hopefully this one has solved some of that, but I'm unsure

[@Steven-cf1ty]

They've changed all the mechanics you mentioned very significantly as a means to simulate the time period, although I strongly disagree with your interpretation of the mechanics in empires lol

[@pastuh]

I would say it's a copy of another game, just with better graphics :) Centurion: Defender of Rome

[@whitefox25]

nah not even close

[@Draktacus]

That's a shame we have to switch games to play the battles that is really odd way of doing things

[@lrmunro]

Like he said: different companies made the two games. It’s cool that they connected them.

[@zokileesvenson5835]

Have the devs not said that you will not need FOG M to play battles , cause Empires didnt have good time exactly for that reason , ppl dont want to buy 2 games to play one . And I was so happy for kindoms untill now when I saw that you actually have to buy 2 games to play one .Not cool

[@whitefox25]

if u buy kingdoms on launch week like right now you can get kingdoms and fog2 for 41 bucks so u pay 1$ for fog2

[@Steven-cf1ty]

You don't need FoG medieval. The battles are optional, not meant to be played often, and are there as a bonus for people who own both, rather than as a necessary feature of the game.

[@Makkar0onii]

What a weird game design. Forcing the player to quit the game just to 'Export a battle' onto another game. Then you have to quit the other game just to go back to your first game. Should have just made the game that uses elements of the other game as a 'Mod' by launching the game with the ability to use the other game while being in the first game. I understand that these kind of games are for long-play but closing and opening in between application is just going to make the game even longer to play. Maybe overall there is a limitation for the Kingdom game that only the developers know. Who knows.

[@Steven-cf1ty]

The dev has been very transparent about it. There's just not enough manpower on this game to thoroughly integrate Kingdoms with FoG Medieval just to skip the export system, when this is just a small bonus mechanic. It's just not worth the time and effort with this small of a team.

[@MrArgus11111]

Ugh... switching games to play battles? Pass. That's utterly unacceptable jank in 2024. I'll tolerate a lot of clunk. I'm playing War in the East 2 atm. That's too much for me, though. Too bad.

[@RoosterNutz12]

It does it automatically and takes a matter of seconds. Quicker than most loading screens.

[@Steven-cf1ty]

It's insane how many people would prefer the mechanic to just not exist at all. The dev does something bonus for fun, and you hate them for it? Insane

[@joakimtarnstrom4498]

It’s a lot less intrusive than one might think. Given the pace of the game, it’s nothing to be bothered about. I never even reflect over that when playing the predecessor to this game.

[@ThomaIvanov]

UI looks terrible. The country borders are pain in the eyes. Looks like a cheap hybrid between Paradox and Total War. Just play CK2/3, at least you can rp there

[@Steven-cf1ty]

You're trading graphics for gameplay. This dev team is tiny but the gameplay systems put the brain rot of CA and PDX games to shame

[@byzantine-lw8cr]

I could care less about graphics. My issue is the turns are so f#! slow.

[@randyflesher7342]

Yeah if you don't mind paying out of pocket for half finished game. Then waiting for a dlc to pay more for no thank you.

[@Steven-cf1ty]

@@byzantine-lw8cr I'm ngl that's gotta be a hardware issue on your end, man. I have a mid tier 2023 AMD CPU and just 16Gb of RAM but turns are just a matter of seconds. Might just be time to save up a hundred bucks and get a new part or two