Inside the Mind of Immortal vs Divine (Laning)

[@slyfly6934]

This tips would surely help ppl play better dota. But not necessarily make player a great player. Make sure to always play in party because that is how you could get the most experience in dota and learn more too. Its not the mechanic its the principle behind it, team work

[@datohleonggez]

thats right!

[@slyfly6934]

@@datohleonggez your vids always mesmerizing, it feels like talking with someone who actually show us directly how to play while playing, like a pro master class session. Keep it up bro. Good stuff.

[@yes-um9ic]

@@slyfly6934 what if i have no friends : (

[@slyfly6934]

@@yes-um9ic you may ask me to join your game, im willing to just watch your game and tell a thing or two what should be your priorities and what not

[@slyfly6934]

@@yes-um9ic not that im a pro, im also just a 2xxx immortals. Mostly getting mmrs from party rank matches.

[@tomekstec981]

One of the best laning mechanics videos ever. Clear breakdown, going through the process of laning. Awesome!

[@smugkokomi8384]

jeeez, its an eye opener with the analysis on that blocking and pulling on large camp on bot. very underrated content creator man. definitely worth the subscription!

[@9detemir]

VERY insightful video!! Learned a few good things (from the placement of the ward, importance of patience and being willing to buy 4 sets of tangos if needed and how to identify when a necro is out of position and punishable). Great content!! Thanks for sharing!

[@Rudeusshiro]

“It’s always better to be alive than dead” oh how I wish my legend carries hear this. They would always try to contest Last hit while I pull and ping at me for not being there. Like wtf

[@dizmal0]

Found this channel yesterday the way you think about dota is so insightful. Such good content to learn from!

[@bagusmahendra1306]

i swear, you must be the best at explaining on how to make a play based on knowing enemy mistake and processing information. Great video as always bro!

[@reirivera7109]

I am an immortal player & I really like your videos. I've noticed that some players even in immortal rank didn't know this. I learned a lot of things from you & managed to get my rank to 500. Thanks for making great content. Keep up the good work man. Stay healthy

[@jeverettrulz]

great explanations compared to many other channels and presenters! thanks, subscribed!

[@hybridtheory9703]

You just got a subscriber. No click bait, clear concise information, no toxicity. Well played sir.

[@Kharock]

Thanks Dato! Such informative and eye-opening video.

[@picks7083]

If i were that rubik, id put the sentry in the middle of the camp, so it covers the whole area box and i can kill the ward/sentry block. Then deny my own sentry. Win-win situation or if its a ward, free exp and money too. Thats how i usually played it to ensure total dewarding of a blocked camp. A good tip is to wait before putting a sentry, try to walk around the left area and the right area of the camp to see if their support is reacting. Most people tend to protect their ward the second they saw the enemy tried to deward. From there, you can predict quite accurately whether the ward position is giving sight over the left half of the camp or right half of the camp. And always put sentry almost near the camp spawn lines to cover 90% of the area for higher chance to deward 👍 Also, you can be annoying without using ward/sentrry to camp block. Just prepare to stand in the camp box when they almost spawn. Enemy will waste their sentry for nothing thinking their camp is warded. Tilted so many enemy support by doing this 😅

[@depzaivai]

You're a devil, bro :))

[@allaghendramorgan]

So u mean to say u have to wait for the enemy to hit your ward once first? What if the enemy have no sentry there, didnt u just blocked that camp yourself?

[@picks7083]

@@allaghendramorgan you mean the dewarding my own sentry? You can now deny your own sentry/ward even at full health. Try it on demo mode. Also if they decide to still block the camp near the tower, then we only have to block their small camp pull from spawning (i usually just stand there at :59). That way both creep wave will stay inlane haha, so its just a matter who deny the most. Better than having the whole creep wave killed by neutral camps 👍

[@allaghendramorgan]

@@picks7083 ohh.. didnt know that. Thanks for the info 😂

[@dereklee4736]

Great sharing n breakdown Dato Leong. Perhaps a vid on forcing opponents to commit mistake?

[@NoobQQMoar]

Amazing video. Commentary is so insightful.

[@vill2980]

at 3:34 Rubik made a mistake of not recognizing the warded area. Creeps that see a hero attack theirs would aggro on them, but if the fog of war hides them, they would immediately return, just like when you are chased by creeps and you went highground, but instead that 1 creep that got aggroed by Rubik went straight on him. You can notice the creeps behavior if you analyze it for the next 5 secs. Look at the creep that passed the 2 tree gap change aggro upon entering the wave again. edit: you can actually see Rubik's perspective (with fog of war) at 3:56 they have no vision when he just went out of the trees and entering the wave

[@jonderudesu]

I don’t understand why you are so underrated. Keep making awesome videos, man! They are so helpful.

[@Shankusu993]

Nice content. Very insightful. Would definitely like to see more such content in mid and off lane as well.

[@Mona-xh6si]

Very informative. Thank you

[@alifsyazwan4521]

New subsriber here. Love ur content a lot, keep it up man!

[@chrisdaveu]

You just earned a new sub. More of this for the upcoming vids!

[@zagteam442]

Really good video, the detail you go into is great and sets you apart from other Dota KZbinrs. Keep up the good work

[@bigmelonboy4618]

Datoh’s informant videos are just way easier to digest and more fun to watch than a bunch of other people’s videos

[@m15t3rdud3]

Stopping every 2 seconds to break down trades and spell exchanges is SUPER helpful. A lot of guides are zipping through that sort of thing but the hyperfocus on "if this happens then that results, but if that happened then something else would happen" is useful to see the decision making process

[@ticksunbs4944]

Still stuck at 3k

[@chillernokiller1926]

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[@hiimanxiety6319]

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[@ticksunbs4944]

F in the chat

[@CarlJung666]

Nice breakdown. My takeaway is the warding locations. Tyty

[@techguyjohn5694]

Thanks for this. Awesome content!

[@benedictjajo]

Imagine abandoning your carry as a hard support in the archon/legend/ancient bracket😂

[@ridimslast3858]

thousand ping incoming

[@Rudeusshiro]

They would even ping me when I try to pull or contest bounty runes. The struggle is real

[@xuansonhapo1234]

That's why I left the game

[@jean-claudemurillo6000]

Thanks bro always watching your laning vids tips.

[@ulysisvicedorii703]

Dafuq I just watched the carry video guide. Fast uploads nice!

[@andreaivanova2286]

You are amazing , i learned a lot o things watching your vídeos

[@kennetheugenio2846]

Does the "keeping the creep wave near the tower" strat apply to every safelane lineup?

[@gotivanmomak]

Yeah its important to be close ur tower. Cuz its more safe farm and that way ur safelane carry is winning the lane. So yes its important

[@wewwew2001]

yes bro cause tower gives u regen and armor

[@RainsKisaragi]

yes, although u have to battle w/ the tower for dmg since it will be a tad difficult to cs but yea its safer to get cs especially if ur having a hard lane

[@fifofuko1864]

definately the best dota channel ever. i hope you make more videos about lower mmrs and offlanes. i have improved 1.2k mmr in last 2 months thanks to you

[@shahkrish]

What to do on dire side? Can you please make a video on it, the dire hard camp is hard to block, surely will get dewarded.

[@adarshpradhan3798]

Really good stuff!

[@f12251225]

This is a literary nice video to learn how immortal players are thinking in every second.

[@mellows836]

Haha you put ads when the mistake was about to be revealed. I like your videos nonetheless :) love from Singapore!

[@agustinusyosef2157]

Good video. Hope you create more mmr comparison video.

[@gokulakrishnan5096]

Hey DATOHLEONG, this video was very helpful. I just faced this exact offlane combo as void and lost the lane badly lol. This video really provided a good insight on how to play the lane. Can you do a similar video on playing the lane vs offlane veno with a strong pos4? Thanks

[@doel5852]

THIS IS CRAZY USEFUL!!

[@karomi9150]

7:42 another mistake that necro did is he's going in the tower's attack range. That's why he die

[@kelvinklient3820]

he'd still die there even w/o tower dmg it was a 1 v 2 situation

[@aaroanttila2537]

if morph didn't have waveform who he would've lived even going under tower

[@apex9806]

This was one of the better laning videos you havemade by far.

[@ClassicDoffy]

Would it be possible to ask for the match ID?

[@thenotsowisedonemaybesomed4999]

@datohleong around how many matches of dota have u played in total? Love your videos

[@johnnavi5339]

Can you upload full vid

[@otoshigami18]

Ty!!! Pls do more

[@akmalaizat2277]

thanks, this is very helpful for me

[@Mr_MRK]

Good tips, thank you.

[@KanoN2502]

Nice! Do you have the game id?

[@dvorszkydavid9140]

Very helpful video, but let me ask something. If rubick and necro were immortal players, how could they use their advantage against your safe and patient laning? If rubick dewards (faster and correctly) Phoenix would still block the camp. Necro’s overcommit was a mistake, but if he doesn’t do that, they still don’t win, just draw. So what could have they done to win?

[@zaid19961]

great video keep going

[@makizenin9290]

This is a very helpful video Thanks, I'm still 16 but I'm reaching Immortal rank by now with my Divine 5

[@lutovac_nikola]

Meanwhile in divine 1: Position 5 follows you to their tower instead of pulling so he doesnt miss any XP

[@cruzab3153]

Lol ya 🤣🤣 🤣 ...I used to do that...then I saw this guy's video and stopped that.

[@ravell9630]

Title outro song?

[@ravell9630]

@@Jieteru- wow thank you so much

[@nimluikham11]

whats camp blocking? I didnt understand why the ward was placed right of the hard camp

[@lawrenceleong8069]

It means placing a ward or ur presence at the every minute mark so the camp won't spawn neutral creep

[@lawrenceleong8069]

Thus no one can use the availability of creep to creep pull to their lane creep, to change the creep equilibrium

[@nimluikham11]

@@lawrenceleong8069 Hey, thanks for the reply. Just one last thing; the first ward that was placed didn't give vision of the hard camp anyway, that's what I'm not getting.

[@lawrenceleong8069]

Cos the sole purpose is to block spawn not for the vision, deliberately hiding it so less likely to be dewarded

[@nimluikham11]

@@lawrenceleong8069 Got it. Thanks bro

[@prateeklakhara5899]

That necrophos is my friend, stays near my home. He is a pretty good player but I see u rekt him easliy

[@ezmoney25]

I'm the rubick there, yep he's bad

[@StayPositive-d9u]

Can you make a video on how to solo win if your support is sniper and hard support is Phantom Lancer?

[@lawmavarte8137]

Khawmhaih in contact theih ns min lo pe tu poh hi

[@sashdevkumar7319]

you should make a guide on midlane creep agro and how to harass and abusing creep de-aggro

[@gotivanmomak]

Amazing thanks sir

[@Emperorbutuk]

Make more video about this bro.. I watched this and realised i do much more mistake than i thought

[@robertclaridad8226]

What do you mean by "immortal players vs divine and asean players"?????

[@h00db01i]

_ancient_ it's something with his English _bunti_

[@galactusclb5733]

ty for video😘

[@toyedgold8346]

Fell really good when I know that what I did in laning phase is correct (Ancient 1)

[@thedevileater]

You were the phoenix?

[@toyedgold8346]

@@thedevileater yes as a pos 5

[@GeraldGantengs]

Song?

[@azlvv]

my only problem is , im stock in divine 3-5 rank and cant get into immortal. :(

[@SayImbaPls]

Now I know the difference between Immortal players and Asian players

[@aldwin1692]

Is this MATUMBAMAN youtube channel?

[@mikelchrist2026]

Thank you sir but pls give the subtitle im not quite good at listening english

[@crislb9414]

Great content

[@marvinc8675]

impressed with your videos

[@blesscotingjo8480]

thanks sir❤

[@justincarson2069]

Love this video

[@jaehyunsvalentine2732]

Pulling isn’t a thing in the lower brackets though

[@andreijardinel6679]

I suggest you to make video "what should i do in first 5 minutes" i hope you hear me

[@MrMimemule]

Hey DTL! love your vids, sorry about the tusk game, my friend is really toxic to everybody. He actually watches your vids a lot too xD well played on the morp, hope we can play again, this time we wont be clearing cavern!

[@ichijou_raku159]

DathoLeong: So the mis- Ads popped out*

[@tjoifilmworks]

can you put match id for me, please? so i can watch and learn. thanks

[@SolidDrali]

you know what really grind my gear... i'm at Legend as a 5 & 4 pos but every time i block those camp my pos 1 complain, they don't even bother to ask

[@harrellt1405]

That is because the other team probably wont pull anyways in that rank. Also if u have a safelane that can bully the offlane it is better not to block because u can use it to farm or pull ur creeps. It just depends if u have aggro or weak safelane

[@johnmelkezedicmacaso1819]

i really think u should be creating a class or something

[@nexiscyh]

what is bunty rune lolx

[@andreaivanova2286]

Dota is like chees if someone makes a little mistake the other should capitalize it

[@IMdevelopment]

make this oncee more datoh

[@bigoof69-r5c]

Better than BSJs rants.

[@pennyfish89]

i subcribe this channel because of the way he pronoce boounti rune

[@nicholeshoong3668]

Hi, datoleong, can u make one video about how to play a decent morphing? Because viewing your play, I start playing morph, but every time -25.... Please make it 😉 Huge fans of you .

[@akimdeadly6247]

I'd like to see early-late game farming

[@kaaruofficial6309]

Datohleong just gives the best tips and tricks but I cant play this qurantine😐

[@dhruvrawat5983]

that camp block! I would also have missed the deward

[@craigmiesterable]

That Rubick messed up bad.

[@TSAX]

Support laning next please 🥺

[@BCdesu]

DATOHLEONG = IMMORTAL CONFIRMED

[@datohleonggez]

Immortal = fake mmr Ancient = Real LULZ

[@BCdesu]

@@datohleonggez Phoenix = Leon lol

[@datohleonggez]

@@BCdesu nope that's not leon

[@BCdesu]

@@datohleonggez SADGE

[@JL.Esperance]

Is really helpful for me to be a support

[@angrypepecancer5205]

Thanks men

[@fadhlanrifaldi1664]

I did it at my bracket (crusader) get 4 report :((

[@redenoriola8168]

Why not just buy a wand

[@gamingandtheatreindustr8989]

3:45 Rubick mistake

[@YoTengoUnLCD]

Your thumbnails kinda look ripped off from Jenkins

[@Ashutosh-wr4rm]

Others: Its just a game! Dota players: Building skills and Having 1000x more brain than a class topper 😂😂

[@I.chouboy]

I can work this out alone. Even as a p5

[@KidTrigger]

Morplhijg is not a weak laner lmao he’s ranged and has unlimited health early game