A Destiny player's first impressions on Destiny Rising.

[@robtibbetts890]

“I wish for a Destiny 3 with a new engine, SRL, and player housing”. _Monkey’s paw curls_

[@SymbioteMullet]

Ahamkara's paw?

[@TechMaestro01]

Your wish is granted; however, you’re only allowed to play with your toes.

[@joselazo6840]

@@TechMaestro01riven would pull some shit like that

[@djungelskog9581]

Dream game set in the dark age *Monkey's paw curls*

[@Ace-Intervention]

Riven rolling in her grave

[@caster269]

Destiny Rising looks like something I would absolutely sink my teeth into, which is exactly why I won’t get anywhere near it. I’ve spent enough on bottomless CN/JP/KR money sinks to know these rabbit holes are dangerous to approach.

[@thatoneguy2274]

it's got all the things you need! decent gameplay, meticulously crafted dopamine triggers to keep you invested and TONS and i mean TONS of ways to spend your money. the game is designed top to bottom to drain your wallet as much as possible. half-decent gameplay that tickles the fancy of destiny 2 players is just part of that.

[@cwj2733]

@@thatoneguy2274idk why mobile game players insist that genshin or honkai is in any way ‘good.’

[@moopey1837]

@@cwj2733 I mean I've played Genshin Impact on PC. I thought the gameplay was really good. I'm not into anime, as a video game aesthetic anyway, so I left after about like 5 hours. I've also played another gacha game on PC for another like 4 hours. Can't remember the name, but it also had quite good gameplay. These can be and are good games. Genshin's open world in particular I hear keeps getting better and better. But I do NOT wanna ever talk to you if you're someone who does spend a ton of money on a gacha game. The same way I don't want to talk to a serial gambler. Because a gacha player probably a)does not understand what is being done to them by the game, which is crazy or b) they know the game is trying to bleed them dry of their money, but they just don't care and keep spending, which is also crazy because again, that is a serial gambler basically. I just have zero respect for chronic gacha game players. But they can be good games.

[@cwj2733]

@@moopey1837 they are not good games because they are predatory by nature. they want you to gamble. gambling is an addiction like any other addictive thing

[@gilberito635]

if youre talking about honkai impact.. well that is a fully fledged really well thought out singleplayer jrpg where spending money or interacting with the gacha doesnt even matter as the game makes you use certain characters that they give you to do the story. and its genuinely a fantastic story​@@cwj2733

[@legacian4039]

Games like this always do a LOT of rewards when they first launch and simultaneously for the new/returning player experience. This is all to draw you in. Wolf themself will be able to be fully maxed out just from the built-in progression guide. You will likely be able to max out or come close to maxing a few of the 4 star heroes through materials rewarded via the launch bonuses and new player bonuses. These rewards will also be enough to pull two to three 5 star heroes, depending on your luck. I have put a decent amount of time into the alpha and I've managed to snag three 5 stars so far. Once the novelty and hype has worn off, the rewards will slow down. They'll probably still have in-game events and passes with decent rewards. The passes tend to be cheaper than straight up buying lumia leaves / silver, but also require a greater time investment (like the subscription which has its own daily bounties and requires you to log in and play to benefit from it). My advice if you're curious or your interest is piqued... There will be ample opportunities to earn free to play materials if you are willing to invest time into it. Save your in-game resources for a "banner" with heroes you care about and you'll be able to "spark" for that hero (pull until you get the guaranteed drop). The subscriptions and passes generally aren't bad bang for your buck by gacha standards. Expect anywhere from like $5~$20 for a month sub / several months pass. Don't impulse buy. Gacha is gambling. The "pity" system to guarantee you drops just means you can save up for heroes you actually care about. Exert a little bit of self control and it's definitely worth giving a try.

[@Loki-]

Because your comment isn't rage-bait it's not as high up as it should be. I appreciate your PSA because if people can approach this in a healthy way, we can have a fun Destiny game for all kinds of players to enjoy.

[@reyvert]

I was gonna say "who let bro yap, I'm not reading all that", but this is a genuinely great "before you get screwed" PSA for those new to gacha games

[@vulkendov5210]

I've played a ton of gacha games. The new player experience always throws tons of rewards at you, but eventually they dry up and you hit a wall where your upgrades aren't keeping up with the difficulty curve. That's usually where I just quit and jump onto the next gacha game.

[@thommyjacobs8921]

Nice read. Good points in it. As a Destiny player I'm interested. And as a Net Ease player I'm interested. Just to point out I've been playing Diablo Immortal for about 6 months & haven't spent a penny & I like it. But I'm willing to spend some time & grind (per say) & not pay to win. I've got 2 characters who are plenty "beefy" with good gear. And all events & quests are available to me.

[@clarinet800149]

The sooner you accept you can’t have everything in a gacha game, the happier you’ll be. $5 a month at most unless it is ‘that’ character that you really can’t do without (not talking about from a collector standpoint)

[@PeachMomonade]

Hearing Datto say Zenless Zone Zero felt like he was using the games government name, I dunno why lol

[@MazungaXIII]

I didnt realize that people knew about ZZZ

[@levibird6935]

@@MazungaXIII ......... how lmao

[@mikeymishima7167]

Lmmmaaoooooooooooo

[@binoykapadia2357]

jesus, took so long to get my opinion for this, thanks as always datto

[@GeremyG]

yep, its a mobile game.

[@mrsmi1ey]

i mean that's not really the insult many people think it is these days. there are some incredibly high-quality mobile games out there, and DR looks likes it's going be among the best.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@mrsmi1ey Graphically, sure. Though, most of the things core Destiny players are marveling at a "Destiny" game doing, Warframe (Mobile) already does that. And I place Mobile in parens, because unlike Rising which is a spinoff that vet players need to start over to engage with, and is supposedly not canon to the story and lore, Warframe is the same game with cross save. So if a person tries it on mobile but doesn't like controls or graphics, they can cross save to a high end PC or console or even Switch. TLDR: Rising will be decent for a mobile game. It's still ill-conceived and will cause issues for the franchise as a whole. It already is.

[@mrsmi1ey]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn Yeah but many (if not most) Destiny players don't want to play Warframe... they want to play Destiny. In addition, those same people have been clambering for a "Destiny 3," and it looks like Rising is as close as they're going to get to it. A lot of players WANT to start over in a new game, with new characters, enemies, and abilities. NetEase has already hinted that they're working on a PC launcher, and I think that would quite literally be a game changer for them. The only reason I played Genshin Impact when it launched was due to PC support. So if that's the case with Rising, and existing Destiny players can play a new Destiny game on PC, I think it's going to do some heavy numbers amongst the existing Destiny community.

[@hardtobearit]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn warframe cant even communicate the release of the android port of it and no one cares about the smaller player pool on ios

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@mrsmi1ey Not among the people who say "they don't want a D3 because they don't want to start over." I'm aware some people do, but again...if the story isn't canon, what's the point? Just to be able to say "I'm playing a DESTINY game with a bunch of features that don't exist in the core game?" "I'm so happy DESTINY finally has these things other games have had for years." Destiny doesn't have those things...Destiny RISING does. Complete with horrible monetization to boot. Gambling. That's something DESTINY has needed.

[@lordgrub12345]

The one who pulls me out of the goth guardian shall be named king arthur

[@WHlSKYtx]

Bro dying alone fr

[@lordgrub12345]

@WHlSKYtx I'm never recovering my digital footprint from this

[@Arizonian312]

Oh so ya'll are down HORRENDOUS

[@LifeWulf]

@@Arizonian312 “Indeed.”

[@sylokthedefiled]

@@LifeWulfi hate that i heard this in zavala’s voice😭

[@nazuna_simp]

hearing datto talk about how the stamina system and weapon/character needing different mats while not knowing that its basic gacha stuff is pretty funny

[@mrsmi1ey]

except that it's not just a gacha game thing. most live-service games have the same mechanics. datto specifically called this out in the video when he mentioned that he doesn't expect DR to simplify the system the same way Bungie did with Destiny 2 (eventually).

[@nazuna_simp]

@@mrsmi1ey except it really is a gacha game thing if you actually watched the video and saw how it was implemented, and dont know any games besides gacha that use stamina so lol.

[@Xlaws]

@@mrsmi1ey its what gacha game does

[@mrsmi1ey]

@@nazuna_simp stamina is almost the exact same mechanic as pinnacle gear is destiny. many, MANY live-service games use that kind of system as a way to limit how much powerful gear players can grind in a single day/week. the only difference is that some games (mobile or otherwise) will allow players to spend money to exceed those limits. you're essentially paying money to lessen the grind. this isn't dissimilar to how destiny 2 lets you pay to obtain season pass levels. these kinds of mechanics are NOT exclusive to gacha games, and exist in many different forms across many different genres of games, console, PC, or mobile.

[@liquidrufus]

Meh I'm distracted enough by my phone.

[@TheAdvancer123]

Petition for Datto's potential new channel to be "DattoisRising"

[@Parallelocam]

How about "dattoishorny" with the thumbnail fishing for clicks

[@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord]

​@@Parallelocam that could get taken down

[@PapaG-cg4os]

@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLordshut up

[@alexanderdvanbalderen9803]

Datto'sisrising

[@JPOG7TV]

Datto eyeing up his next cosplay

[@agentnacho2029]

Would

[@Antare5]

Probably will never touch it myself purely because I don't really play mobile games, but that setpiece fight on the back of the pike was pretty cool. Impressed despite knowing I will likely never pick it up.

[@names7278]

So I've played a lot of Destiny Rising, probably more than I should for a closed alpha (I've C6'd most of the characters and done all of the dailies) It's impressive how many systems there are here that work in the player's favor, having played nearly every big name gacha to come out since 2016-ish. Magazines and barrels can be picked from *any* option on weapons, meaning that god rolls really only need to be 2/4s and you're set. Player guidance is also far better than D2's because it gives you a clear outline on what to do and what to use to get stronger, and the golden path that you unlock after the tutorial serves as a better version of guardian ranks, because it means you have to actually invest *heavily* into a few characters or at least moderately into all of them, which you can't necessarily pay your way or get carried through. There actually aren't weekly lockouts on anything except raids, but you get weekly bonuses that will give you a massive chunk of resources to really juice a character on your first few clears of the week. There *are* issues that come up from how characters work, like Ikora is a boss DPS monster because you have nova bomb, a special GL, and a rocket launcher, while Kabr gets... a scout rifle and machine gun. For the actual nerd shit, every perk gives *real* damage numbers, weapons tell you their base damage and damage output, and there's a firing range that actually shows range, damage per shot, and total damage, all of the stuff that we have to rely on mossymax, clarity, aegis, and the various teams of people who care to dig into that stuff.

[@yourbrojohno]

Thanks. Yeah as. Someone who used to play mobile games a lot cause I never had a PC or console until I got into building them, this sounds like the perfect mobile game. I played a little genshin but could never really get into the art style and overall gameplay. This sounds like a great game to play during commute. Will probably make me get out of the house more cause the opportunity cost of leaving my PC will be significantly lower.

[@Mandingy24]

So many features and QoL/UI improvements and clarity we've been wanting for years in D2, a licensed mobile game implements a whole bucket list of them, and i guarantee Bungie still won't listen or change anything. Too little too late anyway imo

[@Altherot]

I hate that character focus you mention.. I wanna play my own character like in D2, which Wolf basically is, but underatandably that might not be enough in a gacha game. Which turns me off from trying otherwise refreshing Destiny experience with plenty of stuff I always wanted.

[@Forcer69]

You earned your loot by gambling with RNG I EARNED my loot by gambling with my wallet We are not the same

[@snj7502]

You jus saying anything atp

[@Stuckin92]

Whether you trade time or money, its the same. Its GAMBLING ADDICTION. Everything else is your ego trying to justify you're superior for what you paid with. Get off the hamster wheel.

[@ThePackman627]

​@@Stuckin92exactly. That's why so many people are really upset by crafting leaving the game for the most part in Destiny 2, because people liked having that determinism rather than the gambling aspect of it

[@Lamonticus]

@@ThePackman627 Crafting is leaving Destiny 2? I thought Bungie said you wouldn't be able to craft seasonal weapons until the next season?

[@Hazel_TheOne]

@@Stuckin92hear me out on this but I THINK op might’ve potentially been joking

[@Cube2000]

Again, please remember Diablo Immortal and don’t underestimate how scummy this game will get in shaking down players if they want to stay competitive, especially if the game has pvp modes.

[@icarusrising2787]

Same company that's releasing Marvel Rivals tho. Diablo immortal was Diablo immortal bc Acti Blizz was behind it.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

yeah act/blizzard are literal scums of the earth. itll be bad, but i dont think it will be *that* bad

[@ajeenius7437]

@@icarusrising2787 Dude, NetEase were part of the Immortal development... They have been working with blizzard for almost two decades.

[@kin-3877]

​@@icarusrising2787act/blizz WISHES it was as aggressive and scummy as netease is. You haven't been in the gaming spaces they dominate because this take makes no sense if you have. You're basically saying fromsoft is as bad as EA with that comparison

[@thatoneguy2274]

destiny rising will *likely* be better than diablo immortal... and that's a *bad* thing. netease got better at shaking down their players. the whole reason why rising looks so much better is because they've tuned the whole thing to keep you playing and hit that dopamine just enough to foster an addiction, then once the new player bonusses run out they'll get you to spend a little bit of money, then a little more, then a lot more and before you know it you've spent 80 dollars getting the goth warlock.

[@musicaltarrasque]

12:10 If they are going for being similar to genshin/zzz or any of the other big gacha games, Resource farming will be easy, giving a lot of resources per run. They way they balance it, is by using the same resource for claiming upgrade materials for getting gear. So you need to decide what you focus on

[@Kishiiknight]

Datto explaining a gotcha game in Destiny terms is hilarious, also Destiny has become so much like mobile game at this point adding gotcha character mechanics doesn't seem that odd anymore

[@MaxMiller94]

I played it on a massive 14 inch Android tablet and it was a pretty cool experience. Played with both controller and MK and definitely preferred controller. I'm not even going to try touch controls. I could see this being something I sink an hour or two into every now and then and I'm definitely shocked at how complete it feels. Getting a new light experience that doesn't suck was mind-blowing.

[@DruidTech]

Hey man. What kinda controller did you use if I can ask. Same with the type of tablet

[@MaxMiller94]

@magnusthered9635 it's a Samsung Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra (but don't buy one, the S10 ultra is out now) and an Xbox Series X controller.

[@effrumtheretardo]

The logo made think "What is this, a Mihoyo collab?" Since it's developed by NetEase, it's not far off

[@foxulization9632]

i think what you're failing to recognize datto, is that Netease is purposely putting in all of these activities and special things that Destiny 2 players HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR to attract players from D2.

[@geraltrivia9565]

Hearing all the new game modes in this mobile game stings a bit. Those are all things that should have been in the main game years ago

[@skeletor8951]

They're not "things that should have been in the game," we've gotten dozens upon dozens of activities over the years, they're just not these ones specifically. Besides SRL and the card game, which... please don't, spend the dev time on stuff that actually contributes to the game itself.

[@cameronmckirdy4874]

too many fans of destiny will defend bungie not innovating for years and years to their dying breath

[@tilehopper]

@@skeletor8951 Their version of Gambit is genuinely better tho, Bungie needs to yoink and twist it.

[@ivory867]

This is one of the main reasons I stopped playing you could take years off the game and come back and outside of some new subclasses and an activity that'll go away in a few months everything would be the same compare that to Warframe or any other big MMO there's almost always some entirely new way to play the game after a year or two the last thing destiny did like that was add crafting​@@cameronmckirdy4874

[@Lorentz_Driver]

@@skeletor8951 Yes they are. People want so many BASIC game features in D2, that are in here. Don't be that guy, guy.

[@djdarkskinss6415]

As a veteran destiny player I’m kinda enjoy the new light experience it feels so refreshing , the tutorial is not in your face, I like character interaction between you(Wolf or other characters),and your ghost! SRL of course. The Tier system for weapons pretty neat and also a Clan builder! Unfortunately this is not in the main game and probably will get mobile team layoffs in the future.

[@hellbornbeast]

I can see a lot of these characters designs and characteristics becoming exotics for destiny 2, main example: the Hunter with the sword, I could easily see that being a new special or heavy solar exotic sword.

[@abyssal_beans]

I’ll probably drop into DR from time to time because it’ll be quite interesting to see an alternate take on Destiny’s lore, but the confirmed that it’ll be a gatcha has killed any motivation I may have had to seriously invest in the game. Also, I want that scythe for my warlock in the main game.

[@gearhead417]

Man if only Bungie wasnt actively imploding and we got content like this in Destiny

[@DangerVille]

Wish this was coming to the Switch

[@TheWagn156]

This looks a lot cooler than I was expecting tbh. May have to give it a try.

[@numbskullgaming]

Sparrow Racing? I'm sold. If I can play on PC, I 100% will. Have been away from Destiny since early-mid Echoes and I would gladly play this.

[@Lorentz_Driver]

You can with BlueStacks5 :D

[@itswickie8545]

This entire game feels like Destiny and Genshin Impact having a child. I’m familiair with both games and so none of this feels really ‘weird’ or ‘new’. Both the Destiny and Gacha part feel so incredibly familiar and there’s something about that. The feeling of basically already knowing the game without even having played it is… weird, to say the least.

[@epicgamerzfail4575]

this looks like a fun game to play when burnt out on destiny. its destiny enoough to not feel too different and lost, but just different enough to spice things up and feel refreshing

[@oxsila]

You know what's fun to play when burnt out on Destiny? Warframe lmao

[@Lamonticus]

Why not play any other game when you get burnt out from Destiny?

[@cwj2733]

ah yes. i’m burnt out from destiny. time to play destiny lite!

[@EFooLy]

lost me at "gotcha game"

[@Moobeus]

It’s gacha not “gotcha” dude. Gacha is short for Gachapon it’s a type of machine in Japan and games use the same system as the real life machines.

[@Albatross0913]

thank you for explaining what a gacha game is, i genuinely always thought they were called that because the corpos behind it call "gatcha!" when we gave them our wallet

[@thatoneguy2274]

something either i missed or datto didn't mention: gachapon machines were built specifically to evade gambling laws and restrictions, and that's still the primary purpose of gacha games today. they prey very much on the *same* kind of addiction that gambling causes, but because the rewards are "technically worthless", it's not gambling by japanese law. effectively, it abuses the difference between literal value and perceived value. pulling gwynn is literally just some data on a digital account that cannot be sold in any way and cost nothing to provide, therefore it is literally worthless BUT you, the player, like goth warlock. therefore to you that pull has a perceived value.

[@cwj2733]

it is kinda sorta. they make you spend so much money then when you need to shell out more they’re like gotcha! now give me even more money

[@sampan04]

Cannot believe we have a Destiny Gacha game ever, this is basically exactly what I was thinking if Genshin Impact or HSR has a baby with Destiny

[@drakeno4273]

As a long time Destiny player, The game feels great if you just treat it like a new Destiny expansion, most of the times while playing it i was absorbed into it enough i barely even thought about the fact i was playing a game on my phone (aside from the clunky controls and combat that feels dumbed down to accomidate the jank) As a casual Genshin/HSR enjoyer, the game follows in thier footsteps making an actual game then basing its progression on gacha, rather than the normal mobile game model of making a gacha then trying to build something worth playing around it

[@rumblemoto420]

it looks cool, i will be trying it. be fun to play during down time at work at the very least.

[@RikiazGaming]

Pretty much exactly what I expected. I didn't get into the closed alpha but I'll give it a shot when it releases, but like every other gacha game from a franchise I enjoy, I expect that I'll have a bunch of fun with it and play it for a good week or two then never touch it again.

[@reaf5616]

clicked on this video because of hot goth lady on thumbnail

[@koolgamerryes8122]

yes = )

[@Thrillkilled]

you’re a caveman

[@garrettworkman3162]

Honestly I'm decently impressed so far. It's engaging enough with varied and fun enough content that is still short enough i can play on my breaks at work and still feel like i accomplished something. It's definitely going to live or die by how heavily the monetization is pushed late game though. I'm also really impressed by the things it honestly does better than D2. The Shinka are just more well executed champions and being able to unlock all mag and barrel perks on weapons while still keeping some random perk rolls is a great middle ground for D2s systems

[@Bottlecap]

What would be really neat is if they followed what EA did with Apex Legends mobile; existing for 11 months during which time many expensive cosmetics were bought by the players and then SUNSETTING the entire game before it turned a year old. Everyone should totally invest big bucks into Destiny Mobile 👌🏻

[@Yewrenegade]

destiny mobile fits right in my alley as a casual peep. Also I like not spending irl money on games cuz I like to grind, simple as that

[@martionman231]

datto when are we getting the goth guardian cosplay. datto. when.

[@thatoneguy2274]

gwynn is the single best thing to come out of rising. or rather, the ONLY good thing.

[@koolgamerryes8122]

@@thatoneguy2274 literally.

[@agentnacho2029]

​@thasotoneguy2274 so that's her name? Tysm! 🙏

[@kingofredleopards]

I've only played for maybe an hour, currently in a bit of destiny burnout, but I may get in more now that I know there's DestinyGwent

[@TwistedToast-k05]

Is it weird that I'm turned off by it being a mobile game more so in terms of control than monetization/gacha mechanics? Like if it gets a PC port, I'll absolutely try it. I don't expect to get sucked in, gacha games really aren't my thing, but I'll check it out with an open mind. But playing it on a small phone screen with either touch controls or a controller? Zero interest.

[@almostalucard9021]

Not weird at all. I would be more interested if it looked like a more polished game (I know it's just alpha right now though). I hate touch controls and if I'm using a controller then I'd rather it just be on a console anyway. I know mobile gaming is massively popular, but I've always felt like games on mobile seem more like an afterthought compared to games on PC/consoles, and because of hardware limitations will never reach the same level.

[@thepopmanbrad]

the thing i saw the most is the fact everyone complained about how "bungie" made this instead of adding it to destiny 2

[@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord]

Like I saw some people say they wanted the sword and some say they wanted the void scythe

[@koolgamerryes8122]

@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLord the scythe is understandable. it's like that trailer for season of the haunted all over again, where we thought the scythe would be a heavy weapon.

[@ghoulishgoober3122]

​@@Kostyahellstorm_IronLordyeah, instead of a cool scythe weapon we get very meh and okay pulse rifle

[@kanecartoon103]

While I do not have any interest in this game because it is mobile and a gotcha, I am interested to see where it goes and how well it does. There are many events in the lore that this game could get that would make me jealous of it. Battle of Six Fronts, Twilight Gap, these things that we always read about in Destiny 2, being playable in Destiny Rising? Yhea that would make me super jealous.

[@ghoulishgoober3122]

While the spelling doesn't really matter, the origins of Gacha games lie in Gachapon machines. These can be found in many places now, they're those little things you put a coin in and it gives a random toy or figurine

[@NonSequ3ntial]

Best and most honest early thoughts on Rising that I've seen so far, great job as always Datto. Loved that you called out the shank chase mission, that really impressed me. Haven't seen anybody mention that you can't even crouch/slide yet though, lol.

[@ballsmigue6474]

That would be a bit difficult to add in with mobile controls. Yes a controller can be used and bluestacks, but it is still a game made for mobile and screen controls first and foremost.

[@viruscarnagevg]

I'm enjoying it so far just as a game I can waste some time on my break at work. Not planning on dropping a boatload of money on it or anything.

[@TriCobaltGmg]

Its destiny x genshin impact With all the good and bad things that entails. Imo I enjoy it as something to just chill with, playing a few gacha games already.

[@KaiHarizor]

I can’t imagine you not covering it. The mobile side of KZbin would be great for you to get into! Assuming you can balance that. Destiny Rising is pretty great. I have really enjoyed hopping on for one strike, doing a challenge for more materials. Fun game.

[@granttcardwell413]

Sadly, I will be partaking in this. I have a deployment later next year. Gotta get my destiny fix, for sure not bringing my pc to the Philippines 😭

[@omardobleb]

Great video, as per usual... Except for the little fact that there was no Destiny Rising's Goth chick cosplay in it. WHERE GOTH MOMMY'S MILKERS, DATTO?!

[@trentmiller8556]

I agree a lot with what you have to say. I think my biggest problem with it is that it's a game on my phone and I don't like playing games on my phone. If it would ever come to console or PC I'd be more inclined to play more.

[@MrTJCM6]

A spin foil hat theory I've thought of was that Destiny: Rising was a opportunity to test potential ideas that Bungie could implement into the base game in the future without having to devote so much development time and costs. Destiny: Rising is the prototype and its ideas can be ported and polished up based on community feedback and reception.

[@terrathelunatic]

I think im done with Destiny 2. Not because they did anything bad but because 10 years is a long time to spend on a game. I might just check out Destiny Rising tho…

[@AnimaLEquinoX]

I'm really surprised at how much fun the game is. The tutorial is thorough, the gunplay is solid on controller, and the characters have some cool abilities. I'm not a fan of each character being limited on what weapons they can use, and I'm worried what the monetization will look like at full launch, but I'll definitely play it too see how that's handled.

[@willchastain6436]

As a seasoned Destiny vet, I will 100% try this out. My concern is I play mobile games when I'm not home. I'm not going to carry a controller around with me, and I have a feeling the touchscreen controls will annoy me.

[@cqb3814]

If I can’t play on my pc or console that’s a no go for me

[@Chevy9]

I expect consistent destiny rising content datto !😂

[@GuauGuauGuauGuauGuau]

If you enjoy Destiny Rising at launch, I’d love to see you cover it

[@Frontier_Rifleman]

This looks like it'll be a 50/50 wither it makes it past the first year of its lifecycle or not. Depends on if the whales see it as worth dumping a mortgage worth on coloured pixels

[@DerultimativeOzzy]

Net Ease has the opportunity of a life time to do the funniest shit ever. Make a Destiny game that surpasses Bungie's in some capacity. From the looks of it, they've definitly been reading through the lore and pick up all the different characters that people only know from the lore. Wonder if Dredgen Yor or Shin Malphur will be playable characters. Time will tell how cool this game ends up being.

[@Lemon-x-]

If it's like the other big name gacha games (genshin, HSR, Wuthering Waves etc.) then you're not going to "need" to pull specific characters to complete any of the content but you'll be incentivised to get the latest character because the endgame content will have a bonus/buff that applys in a way that's almost specifically made to make the new character look insanely OP. Other characters will likely benefit from this buff but they will try to lure you in with content creators saying "this new character is OP and destroys endgame" type of videos. For anyone who's going to get into destiny rising as their first ever gacha game, please just know that you should always keep in mind that FUN >>>> Meta. If you're someone that's always chasing the meta, you're going to end up in a situation where you disappoint yourself. Typically if you're pulling for waifu/fun over meta you're only missing out on around 3-4 summons (gacha pulls) per endgame rotation if at all (if destiny rising follows the same systems as genshin/HSR etc.)

[@ProfSir1]

Sounds cool! My main question is does the game require me to use some kind of currency just to play the different modes? That’s my biggest gripe with mobile games.

[@halo6484]

As an avid gacha game F2P player and a Destiny fan everything I have seen is standard affairs with alright pricing for thing's so far what will make or break it is if they truly keep weapons locked per character without anyway to unlock the ability to use different weapons it's gonna make character power creep really strong

[@skipventure5158]

A while ago Cammycakes made the suggestion of creating a Destiny spinoff that was crucible focused and used a character system similar to what we are seeing in Destiny Rising, and frankly, now that we have seen it come together, I'm hopeful that the crucible community gets their version of this, too! I know a tighter balance won't shut them up, but it would be nice to have something other than Marathon to point them to when they ask for PvP-first design

[@CassiusKent]

It's a really well organized well thought out game wrapped in a Kevlar gacha package.

[@RegrettableDeed]

Shifting Gates *needs* to come to Destiny proper. It's what Gambit should have been.

[@dgkway]

Bro, it's so over Sorry on behalf of everyone that thought they could bring back Destiny in a meaningful way

[@_CinnamonKitty]

Datto Rising

[@randommixedletters]

The irony of a D2 creator calling the need to play a playlist over and over again for a particular material 'monotonous' is hella amusing to me XD. Ahh yeah, that thing Destiny has forced you to do for 10 years straight, the horror. But yeah, I wanted a D3 to 'pull me back in' so they could make a bunch of sweeping changes to make the game actually feel modern, but seems as the top comment has said 'the monkey paw curled' and we got this instead...at least the over the top systems look much improved, and the third person perspective capability makes a lot more sense for Destiny in my opinion. Wouldn't complain nearly as much about the horrible hitboxes if I could actually see them...

[@kumbertjoehl-lee8898]

This will probably make a huge amount of money...I just wonder how much Bungie is going to get.

[@lesliejacoby9137]

I think some people are definitely trying to be harder on it even though it's doing a lot impressive things for a mobile game in its alpha.

[@ghoulishgoober3122]

Honestly, like I'm not really interested because it's a mobile game. Maybe if like Genshin it gets released to pc and console I'll play it. Regardless it's doing good things, and it isn't like it's Bungie either. Bungie have given the devs of this game permission to use the IP

[@tomdelongjohns]

i won't be playing the game (i don't like any mobile games that aren't puzzles) but this looks impressive for what it is! i'm hoping the monetization is only like, normal gacha levels of predatory and not too awful so that people can enjoy this without going broke.

[@Airwolf-lm9cm]

I am not a mobile gamer so I don’t know how much I will even care about this but I find the choice interesting to make the mobile game so similar to actual Destiny. Like this doesn’t seem to be a “oh I have to wait 10 minutes for the bus let me play a round” kind of game. And if it’s not that and I actually need to sit down and invest significant time into this, why wouldn’t I just play Destiny on PC.

[@AVillainChillin]

Where is the raid guide? More videos with the music!!!

[@unbiddensubset0645]

Yep from my experience from playing gacha games datto has definitely experienced the gacha game vibe, explaining everything sounds exactly similar as how other gacha game does its thing lol btw dont expect netease to be as pushover as bungie is when it comes to anything to shorten playtime, ppl will complain about how long it takes for something to grind for and they will absolutely NOT give a fuck, they want those playtime hours for reasons

[@wumbology72]

ngl i thought people were joking about the 5 star mara sov then i saw datto pull a 4 star ikora. I am so conflicted between wanting nothing to do with this but also wanting everything to do with it.

[@Malaphor2501]

If I'm not mistaken, Radagast is also voiced by Mithraax.

[@brandonporteriamyasuke1507]

Question why do people always jump when they shoot a grenade launcher?

[@kasumimi]

Might give it a shot if they release a dedicated pc client

[@Kellestial]

We got destiny mobile before destiny 1 on PC (and Gta 6)

[@courygaffney4408]

Im Golden Rank 50… I’ve put quite a bit of time into it. It seems like you can play free to play pretty effectively. There are really cool systems like weekly leaderboards for the fastest times in the endgame activities which dumps a TON of rewards on you and gives you a temporary title to show off: California #1

[@stevenbanks1548]

Oh, lol, datto addressed my question immediately.

[@eraticfx]

The cool thing about gotcha mechanics is the character they're going to add and it will be massive so besides the usual people that we can't even play in Destiny 2, there's a highly possible character that I expect to see and that's is more likely going to be in Destiny Rising.... SWEEPER BOT!!!!! Would love to see how he fights lol😂

[@MLM614]

5:28 Elitist Datto translation: Hey Bungie! You see this?! Is this so hard to pull off if a *mobile* game can?! *Mobile. Game.* 10 years later and it's in a mobile game before the main game. What are we doing Bungie??

[@crithon]

to be fair, how many of used the Companion app and kinda wished it was just a bit more.... why not

[@RetroAngel13]

Id love to play this but even though i redeemed a code and pre registered as soon as it was available i never got a email

[@ruijikisu]

im very interested....if there is good mouse support i can live with emulating it if it works as well as some other shooters do, but if not, im not playing

[@Tello-21]

all I want is the ability to go third person type in campaign and have an option for just first person

[@condawg758]

i really hope they change their mind about only releasing this on mobile. like with other gacha games like genshin and stuff. probably wouldn't wanna spend any money, so not sure how long i'd play it for, but it sounds like fun. also not thrilled about all the currencies

[@SKYGR1ND]

Iron Bar aka Iron Banner is available on weekends and so is SRL!!!

[@dawson4876]

A mobile spinoff game having a set piece (when Destiny doesn’t have any) is crazy

[@MunkyX12]

at the very least i hope it might be a good test bed for certain things bungie themselves are too scared to do and still get some feed back for it, id love some quarters or a clan hang out spot in D2 and i hope people say they like it enough in rising to make bungie think about adding one since there going to be shaking so much up apparently in apollo, dosent have to monster hunter levels of in depth but like maybe an armour display and weapon rack so all the millions of guns in your vaut could have alittle more purpose like theres 5 slots that will show up on the rack in game and you swap them around as you like, maybe a wall of seals, just something nice to let you express yourself more

[@Deli5150]

to be honest i haven't played destiny for a while i got burned out after playing it since d1 first released all the way to d2 the witch queen. and seeing all the new stuff they added to d rising while still keeping the core gameplay the same kind of gets me really Interested. especially since I kind of switched to playing mainly mobile games especially on my PC. stuff like Genshin impact, honkai impact, zenless zone zero, and wuthering waves. I kind of got used to the whole gotcha gaming side. I would actually love to play a version of Destiny kind of like the games I mentioned. Take it real casual, It seems like fun I'm definitely going to play this one It releases. PS. crossing my fingers they'll make a pc version. kind of feel like they have to since everyone that makes a mobile game also releases a pc port nowadays.

[@jacksonprince6269]

This will end up the exact same as the apex mobile game. It will have a decent player base at first and do some things better. Eventually, it will get shut down due to a lack of income, and a few key features that aren't in Destiny 2 will get added to the main game at some point. I'm sure it'll be fun. Nothing life changing.

[@flamingbunnyrabbits]

If it wasn't mobile exclusive I would almost be tempted to try it out. One of the many things that drove me to uninstall D2 was lack of variety and fresh feeling content. It often felt like every time Bungie would add a "new game mode" it was basically just an existing game mode slightly tweaked. Gacha aside, this puts Bungie to shame with how much fresh looking content and new ideas they developed while Bungie is over here laying people off during what should be their swan song.

[@guilhermepinheiro5342]

Imagine if Bungie start using "Pinnacle Energy" in the regular game...

[@hiroprotagonist2282]

I've put a bunch of hours into it so far and have also completed the gauntlet ops a couple of times now: yup, it's a gacha, yup, it's more Destiny. Shifting Gates feels like a 10x more exciting version of Gambit. The gauntlet ops/raid feel cool and just mechanics-heavy enough to not be giveaways but simple enough to complete on mobile. I think by far the worst part about the experience is when somebody in the fireteam has a shit internet connection, it slows down the rest of the fireteam to a crawl in a way that's practically a slideshow. It gets even worse with stuff that has objectives, some of the objectives don't spawn, etc. I think they need to lower the cost on the overflow crystal stuff a bit but maybe that's just hopeful thinking. Like you said Datto, I doubt they'll simplify the currencies but man, it needs a little simplification IMO. Overall, I'll probably still play it, I might even upgrade my phone so I can have a better experience (I'm on an iPhone 13) but right now two things stand out: Shifting Gates and the Adventures of the IX are so good I wish Destiny 2 would just lift them wholesale and throw them into Destiny 2 as permanent activities.

[@muchmercy3449]

I hear player housing and im hitting the ceiling thats something we wanted since D1. Sad to think but I wonder if netease will handle the destiny IP with more care

[@wodykolfe433]

Didn't get a chance to play the alpha, but when it launches I'll give it a go. Seems like a neat enough experience to try, but it's probably not gonna replace D2 for me

[@FloridaSunlight]

Can't wait til official release