Daughter Is A Stripper (How Do I Save Her?)

Daughter Is A Stripper (How Do I Save Her?)
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[@Jessthebes]

I'll never understand why some parents act like the reason why their children go down bad paths is simply because of outside influence, when most of the time it all starts because of something going on at home.

[@Stantorr]

Yes and no. Peer pressure is stronger than you think. That's how cults isolate family members. Then again, it's so much easier to give a smart phone and a tablet to a 6 y.o. than actually do parenting. ** Ohhh and the father is not in the house *** ding ding ding !

[@skincareceo]

She literally wasn't even living at for the last 5 or 6 years.

[@KM-up4xz]

My son learn how to curse at school. Bad habits are like a plague they spread faster and easier than you think

[@taylorosterbauer7879]

@@Stantorr 😝 is H

[@strnglhld]

Kids don’t do this unless something went wrong in the home

[@kengy1991]

I think the dad’s response is key. The fact that he doesn’t care that she’s doing this right now I’m sure is a huge factor as to why she’s still doing it.

[@dewilew2137]

Bingo. Do you have daughters? You understand girls very well.

[@kengy1991]

@@dewilew2137 I have one daughter that is almost a year old. I have just seen how young women can be affected if their fathers do not invest in them morally and emotionally, especially in their teens.

[@standground8284]

From my experience and what women say who come from decent homes. If a girl dad cares about them, there for them emotionally, provides for them, faithful to his wife and family, doesn’t party drink or do drugs… most women will see that and say their dad is boring and a square. Instead seeking guys like their dad, they choose go out and get ran through by a bunch dudes until they’re ready to settle down with a guy who cares and conducts themselves similar to *dad*.

[@halloweendancing]

As a woman with a good relationship with my father and is very happy and healthy who used to strip - she might just enjoy it. That’s why I did it, I enjoyed dancing and made good money.

[@DonnovanThomas929]

@@halloweendancingIt’s wrong though. Selling your body (yes I’m linking stripping and prostitution, same thing) is degrading and devaluing yourself.

[@beautepley8352]

This video made me tear up man because most sex workers don't have a mom who care this much. His advice is spot on because her daughter needs to be reminded that she has support and someone who loves her to death. That is 100% the message to focus on right now. I hope it works out and regardless of happens, her daughter is fortunate enough to have a mom who calls a show like this asking for advice on how to move forward. Being loved like this is rare. I never had that and never will. I hope it works out for them. I hope time heals their wounds.

[@danmchardy6424]

"Don't save her, she don't wanna be saved." - J Cole

[@qualitygamingchannel5051]

Didn't expect to see this comment here 😂😂😂 Also phrase originally coined by Project Pat 😎

[@chocolatte8301]

I came here for this comment lol!!! 🤣🤣

[@paulchakola7372]

Lol I was going to say this!

[@xhaltsalute]

You gotta offer it to her.

[@KaiaLoken]

Let her speak for herself and inform her of what’s available to her

[@elmagnificodep]

Diane: My daughter is stripping? Dave: What's her income and her debt? Is she putting 15% in a mutual fund?

[@grantguy8933]

Make sure she eats rice and beans

[@6ohTreez]

@@BlueTorrie rice and beans

[@martinjackson909]

“She’s stripping for a master’s degree in social work?”-Dave

[@timh2065]

She could pick up some additional cash with some after-hours "private consulting" work!

[@Jss766]

Dave has daughters and cares very much for them. He wouldn't want anyone doing this. He says deliver pizzas not sell your body.

[@arfriedman4577]

I stayed with my parents during and after college. I paid them rent. They told us we can stay as long as we want.

[@dammee]

I’m letting my kids stay until they are ready, done school, in their careers, or get married. Im not just going to let your child struggle and get so desperate that they become sex workers. Hell no I’ll send you the money not to do that if I have to.

[@sarahalderman3126]

All depends… most of us said that when are kids were little too. Too many variables to project without a scenario thete is no telling.

[@Black_Samurai-fish]

Same. I’d expect them to get a job, learn to pay for yourself etc but stay with us, get your life together and then you’ll be ready for buying a house getting a wife etc.

[@jijiso253]

@@Black_Samurai-fishAbsolutely 😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@cpirtle]

Excellent advice. Never stop fighting for your child, ever.

[@Anangelfromabove]

Unless they stop fighting for themselves, then just send them love and hope they start fighting again.

[@PopMami]

@@Anangelfromabove I agree. Unfortunately when they become an adult there isn't very much that you can do except be there if things don't go well.

[@RedeemedRogueMolecules]

John you gave about the best advice possible on this one. The rest of the commenters want to diagnose everything, but what she needs is just mom to show her she’s worth more than those dirty folded $1’s (levity). Go get her momma.

[@miawook]

She’s worth crispy 100 dollar bills

[@laughoutmeow]

Dollar is a dollar nothing dirtier about it.

[@guyrose2350]

Stripping is not a bad thing to do, the money is not dirty, you can make a killing. Obviously many girls get taken advantage of when they’re naive, however, I know literally hundreds of girls who retired by 30 as multimillionaires with multiple businesses and streams of income! If you’re smart about it, it’s one of the quickest ways to gain wealth, men sexualise us women anyway, might as well profit. As long as a woman goes into it educated and knowing how to manage money (that’s the biggest problem of strippers they get addicted to the money and at some point it dries out) and how to protect herself and be smart about it.

[@RedeemedRogueMolecules]

@@guyrose2350 In a Christian worldview, it’s the opposite. Not everyone is 1000% secularised. Surprise!

[@shelbysycamore637]

@@laughoutmeow exactly.

[@cm5394]

In the defense of her parents, some parents do the right thing and children can still turn out this way. The influence of the world is strong.

[@seanjean9677]

Well when the child turns out well the parents want the credit

[@TheMechanicj]

8 hour shift at the club or 80 hours at a job hard to say know too bad I’m a chubby ugly dude and had to get a real job lol

[@rebeccaoprea9917]

@@seanjean9677 there’s a saying that when things go right , we take credit , and when they go wrong , we blame someone or something .

[@elizabetha8565]

And what do you say to parents that have 2 or 3 very successful children and one that's in jail?

[@boxelder9147]

@@elizabetha8565 scapegoated kid possibly

[@valerieruiz6923]

I wish my mother got this advice when I was struggling. It probably would have made a big difference and saved me from a lot of heart break!

[@STALIN_B]

Or you could be a grown up and take hold of your life

[@thegood56]

You never would have listened anyway

[@betsyjones6822]

I’m glad you pulled through 👍🏻

[@dewilew2137]

@@STALIN_B you could not be a POS, yet here you are.

[@3Torts]

@@STALIN_B 🤡

[@platinumhandymansolutions]

This is why we love you John. You were meant to do this. You are making the world a better place brother.

[@zaad5273]

Mother: “My daughter is a stripper.” Ramsey: “She needs to sell the car.”

[@apophispnw5717]

Beans and rice, rice and beans.

[@firefly9838]

She needs to pick up extra hours at the club to build that savings😂

[@delightschwartz2155]

​@@apophispnw5717uhh no. The exotic dancers I knew back in the day ate like bodybuilders - they all did a very low carb diet and lots of gym work.

[@fitzyglamyt]

This was very well done. It really is influence. One of your friends tells you it’s not that bad and it’s easy money and the person who feels like they’re strong enough to handle it and remove themselves emotionally from it will go ahead and try it and enjoy it once they see how much money they can make. But it is not a safe place.

[@NeccoWecco]

Daughter's working on her education and struggling to make it. It sounds like life at home isn't worth coming back to and she prefers to strip. Dad's answer was 'it is what it is' instead of "hey why dont we come together and make up the difference to help her out for a few months so she can get a better job and get back on her feet"

[@bobberry1463]

You don't know that. People can do whatever they want without it always being the parents fault.

[@terriesmith2616]

Mom and dad were divorce, for all we know mom kept dad away from daughter and now that daughter is out of control and stripping, mom refuses to take responsibility and blame dad or anything else except herself for not raising her daughter right.

[@kellharris2491]

She is out of control? How? She has a home. She isn't doing drugs. Stripping and prositution aren't the same thing. She is a grown woman making her own decisions. That doesn't seem out of control to me.

[@bayoujohn03]

I have a relative who was stripping. Good head on her shoulder and tom boy growing up, shr just liked being naked and found it a easy way to make money. never was a drug addict, is now married in early 30s with 3 kids, all same dad. cause you choose to do something others dont agree with doesnt mean you have issue or a bad person

[@Guitarlvr01]

You’re an idiot. Obviously you do not understand the dangers, just to start. The odds she’ll be raped or assaulted are exponentially higher. No woman does something like this out of self respect, that’s for certain. There are definitely issues.

[@RedeemedRogueMolecules]

Cool exception

[@van2165]

@@RedeemedRogueMolecules more common than you think

[@karil6461]

I'm normal, educated and did it too in my 20s. I worked 1 day a week and could focus on my more than full time school work. Before dancing I was working 2 fast food jobs and my grades where horrible.

[@bailee7696]

U don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. And she is carrying that for the rest of her life

[@tilialindenbaum3114]

Excellent advice! How I would love, love, love to have my parents say to me: „We love you, come home!“ They are both still young, still healthy, still working and own a big house with 4 (!) empty bedrooms, where my siblings and I used to live. But we have nowhere to turn to if things get out of control. We are not allowed to just „come home“. So yes, fighting for your child should always be the right path. 🥰

[@lindseye2750]

Yes! I agree, just saying that would make all the difference

[@Missdaphanyma13]

Same, everything same. 😢

[@kimberlysmith7625]

Once again...divorce becomes the common denominator....where the innocents of the fallout are expected to carry on seamlessly....as if nothing has happened.

[@josiegreenthumb1451]

Right. Divorce affects the kids way more than people like to acknowledge

[@wijcik]

My parents are divorced and I didn't grow up to be a stripper. 🤷‍♀️

[@hikerhobby1204]

@@josiegreenthumb1451 Not divorcing abusers and addicts cause many more issues.

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

@@wijcik My parents are divorced and I didn't grow up to be a stripper... but there were certainly other ramifications caused by the divorce.

[@terriesmith2616]

$10 says mom initiated the divorce.

[@Lifeszebarbie]

John, you’re one of the good ones! I listen to your videos, even when the topic doesn’t pertain to my life because I know I will still find great advice and tools to handle this crazy life. Thank you for what you do. You risk judgment and hate to help others and it doesn’t go unnoticed.

[@mirandaortiz5302]

I’m a dancer who knows fantastic women stripping, people always think if you strippers are just in a bad place not the case at all.

[@Polecat-qz5om]

Yup!!

[@Neoteny374]

Six work for the degenerate part of men, healthy!?

[@ethan4048]

She's living like no one else so later she can live like no one else 😇😂

[@righand]

Lmao

[@jasonrodgers9063]

Ba-da-BUMP!

[@evanzzzz869]

☠️☠️☠️

[@evanzzzz869]

She’s on baby step 3.c.

[@achavez78]

Bruuuhhh!!!! Let's go 🤣🤣🤣

[@scottcasey9240]

I wish I was as smart as this Doc. Its amazing how he can give sound advice with compassion, no matter the situation. Most people would just say, "You're an idiot, tell her to stop stripping." He gives great advice, using a sympethetic tone while making his point as if hes part of the family. This Ramsey network really helps people.

[@lindseye2750]

Thank you for this Dr John! Spot on, even if she doesn’t go home just hearing that will make a difference to her.

[@darlenebarsalou4169]

Wow this one made me cry. My daughter is not stripping but is living across the country and is making really bad choices at the moment. She is 26 years old and has decided not to come back home. I can't force her and it's breaking my heart she wants to stay there. Her Father and I have told her we will fly her home anytime.

[@mirjanapucarevic2105]

I think she will call you soon and it will be just a stage in her life.

[@thomasinh6521]

I have a feeling that a job in Social Work isn't going to pay a ton on top of the debt that she took on to get there.

[@hollystiener16]

It does actually. With an MSW degree, you can make $100-200 if you see private clients.

[@ddavis8988]

​@@hollystiener16 That's very few people. Most people in social work are very low pay workers.

[@cmichelle9986]

​@ddavis8988 yep. It's one of the lowest paid professions. Most people who go into it aren't very capable or high IQ. Those are facts

[@katelynozdemir7536]

This reminds me of when I was in college and I had to sell my eggs to infertile couples to pay my bills. I went through multiple cycles of donating over several years. When my parents found out they were super upset about it, but they never once thought about actually helping me financially. Quick to judge, but gave no alternative way to support me, and to be clear, I come from a family that makes good money. If you send your kids off into the world with no resources, maybe don't act shocked when you find out they're stripping, selling drugs, selling their eggs, etc to make ends meet. Edit: I had a full time job at the time, but shockingly, minimum wage that college kids get paid doesn't actually pay the bills. Some of you are judgmental idiots and are the same people who would be against raising the minimum wage so I wouldn't have to do that. I had a happy ending though, I'm rich and successful now. So leave me out of your drama.

[@nmc1859]

Wow. I almost did ivf, but it didn't seem quite right for us so we didn't go through with it. I did wonder why the ladies would donate their eggs to people they didnt know. My family is the same as you said yours is. Plenty of opinions, (after the fact) and no help or true compassion ans understanding. It's very difficult, especially as a young person, to navigate this world with parents like this. 💔

[@mst-pierrem5729]

I actually think people should not juge the "naked " industry. Most people have bills to pay and more and more 1 job isnt enough so.... and like you say outraged parents who find that out and dont try to help are just dumb. My daughter would tell me stuff like that I'd be trying hard to give her cash or start something to help her!! Geesh!!

[@mynameis......23]

They did not raise you to do this, ofcourse they will be upset

[@U2beRejects]

I mean just because you’re struggling financially doesn’t mean you should sell yourself and make bad choices. There are other, good, ways to make money. If I started selling meth to make money, it’s still not justified even if my parents don’t help me out. Also just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s a good thing.

[@mst-pierrem5729]

@@U2beRejects see here is one thing with that train of thought that escapes reality. We live in a society that if you dont pay your debt the collectivity will! And if you have too much debt you are forbidden legally to have acess to other things such as renting and other things you need to survive. If others depends on you (minors) it's even worst! I dont get people judging anyone for the simple matter that no is going to get you out of financial debt unless you die which then the debt will be transfered to the collectivity if the descendants and or love-ones refuse your thing. Let's stop pretending for a minute that this is a flaw in morality, when the big elephant in the room is your on your own as a adult to survive and we pretend to care as a society because we view sex with partners for money as sinful! Stuck in survival mode I'd rather give physical pleasure and orgasms than destroys someone's biology (selling drugs) in order to have acess to a wealth insure I eat and I sleep off the streets!! I was saved from making that decision last minute by a now husband who knew THAT ABSOLUTELY NO ONE CARED but that experience thaught me that forever more I shall never EVER JUDGE someone who's means of survival have arrived to this point! WE HAVE MADE A COLLECTIVE DECISION THAT PEOPLE MATTER AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A FOOD AND A PLACE TO LIVE! It is OUR collective inaction that makes us at least as bad as the sinners we try to cast a stone at! OUR COLLECTIVE MORALITY IS DEFFECTIVE AND WE GOT NO ONE ELSE TO BLAME BUT OURSELVES !

[@troyspears6470]

Just because someone is a stripper doesnt make them a bad person…

[@danbrown7224]

Hopefully she is doing something smart with her money and not blowing it.

[@martinjackson909]

She’s going for her masters in social work. She doesn’t even need a masters in the field for most social work jobs

[@Vbe796]

she’s not a bad person…It’s the environment that parents are worried about.

[@milaj927]

💯

[@sarahdoanpeace3623]

Exactly

[@TrangNguyen-se2gw]

Really loved how Dr. John emphasized how crucial it is to know you have a place to go. Sometimes that’s all you need. And big ups to Dr. John for the Turnstile tee! Let the spotlight shine on me again!

[@rachelhope3161]

Love it! Awesome advice. Go get your baby girl.

[@hugojuicevalladares8713]

Be Her Friend. Let her open to you fully. Support her. Eventually she will out grow that scene

[@MichaelJones-rn2pq]

More women sink into that scene with drugs, booze, prostitution, even sex trafficking than "out grow that scene". Young people have enough real friends, they need their parents to be parents. The job description isn't even close to being the same.

[@hugojuicevalladares8713]

Sadly some women are made for that work. Having your kids trust you with everything will allow them to seek to you for Advice

[@terriesmith2616]

Having mom be her daughter's friend is probably what cause her daughter to strip for money. Daughter doesn't need more friends, daughter needs her mom to be a parent.

[@mizzzlicia1832]

Stripping is a job just like any other, she needs/wants money. Let her be an adult

[@cl5193]

Stripping is not adulting. Stripping is a broken adult.

[@mizzzlicia1832]

@@cl5193 of all the takes, that's one of them. Do you not believe that women would or could enjoy adult work? You infantilise women or medicalise women who just want to do what they want. Get a life. You don't like it? Do not participate. You have no idea why anyone in sex work does what they do, mind your business.

[@Kitkat-wu3ow]

​@@cl5193in your opinion.

[@Stardust19905]

I was a dancer and I don't regret it. Some women would rather work at the club to make ends meet than move back in with their parents, or be stuck in abusive relationships. Stripping is a job where you can work 2-3 nights a week and still make ends meet, while getting a degree or spending more time with your kids as a single mom.

[@kellharris2491]

She is a grown woman making adult choices. People don't understand that. It's her choice.

[@Yourmom_dotcom]

AMEN

[@marlonmarquez4798]

Usa has the largest porn industry/adult industry and still it's frowned upon. American culture is so weird. if a person wants to strip, why not? what's wrong with voluntarily doing a job for money? she isn't hurting anyone, stripping doesn't mean she is being a prostitute. that she will "slide down further" is pure speculation. stripping can actually be a really good gig.

[@CapeEniEer]

I understand that sex work is heavily shamed and punished and that its important for people to talk about how normal humans do it too. And im super glad it worked out for you but dont make it sound like its not dangerous. What if someone does it and gets raped or gets into drugs? No one becomes a firefighter not knowing that there is a possibility that they will likely have to run into a burning house at some point... dont make it sound safe. Say it how it is.

[@boston312]

hey hey! your going against the PC narrative. You have to say you were forced into the profession or were trafficked. Your not allow to say you entered the profession voluntarily and especially not allowed to say that you enjoyed it.

[@nataliechavero4652]

I personally know a few ppl in that industry but they are only focused on the $. And they are financially stabled ...some use that $ to go to college or start their business. & others just look for a "safe" place. Hopefully she's safe

[@krogdog]

Christina Villegas here on KZbin

[@888altamber]

Agree 100%

[@adamusruber]

I used to be a bouncer at a male strip club years back. The way women behaved at the club was shocking. It makes a female club look like a church. 🤣

[@itsme-ih2cx]

Im a stripper tight now

[@Lifeszebarbie]

🤢🤢

[@adelinediallo7775]

Haha, would love to hear those stories man!

[@halloweendancing]

Lmao

[@freahrebecca3087]

I believe it. Women have this notion that sexual assault can’t take place if it’s being done to a man.

[@stevenporter863]

She is 25 and going to get a master's degree. Why does John keep calling her little girl like she is 12? I get the mother sees her as a little girl but she is an adult.

[@b.cdrisk2035]

Because being a stripper is humiliating and you're supposed to care about your kids

[@backyardwanderer16]

Because you never stop being your parent's child and they never stop seeing you as their child. He's speaking to that emotional aspect of being her mom.

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

Because she's acting like someone who's in over their head and needs to regroup.

[@terriesmith2616]

Exactly. 💯💯 25 years old is a full grown adult. If it was a man, Baloney wouldn't have called him a "little boy", Baloney would've called him a man and tell him to "man up".

[@b.cdrisk2035]

@@terriesmith2616 Almost like there's more differces between men and women than men liking monster trucks and women liking makeup

[@nancyrupp5893]

I wish I had someone like you in my life, someone who cares...

[@nullavitasinemusica1]

Im so glad he isnt glorifying the sex trade

[@ineedhoez]

Maybe this is because I am not religious but I really don't see the issue. I had 2 friends in college who did it. They graduated debt free, bought houses, and saved for retirement. They had net worth of a 300k before the age of 25. They are now both happily married with children. It was a job. They didn't do drugs. They didn't date dudes from the club. They went to school, went to work, and kept it moving.

[@localjess838]

At this stage of my life, I don't "look in" to people's lives to say the "end justifies the means". If you work in therapy or counsel career people, you will be shocked at the rot behind much of the success you see.

[@kellharris2491]

I don't look at people and say their w life is over and they are stained forever. You would be surprised at what people go through and survive all the time.

[@nothinwatever]

Ya, there are some exceptions to the rule, but unfortunately, your friends story is not what most people story will be.

[@TrailDancer]

It's just a risky environment - late nights, constant exposure to drugs and alcohol abuse, lots of sexually predatory behaviour, massive stigma, increased risk of sexual/physical/emotional violence etc etc. You don't want soemone you love to be involved in that lifestyle

[@ineedhoez]

@whatisthais well I guess it's about perspective because, I grew up in a risky environment. Those dangers where in my community and home.

[@pmeehan_3]

So the daughter moved out when her parents got divorced? hmmm

[@kiki11974]

I disagree with Dr John’s recommendation . You cannot make grown people do what they don’t want to do. There’s a reason why the daughter didn’t ask for help ….

[@angryox3102]

Yeah there’s no way that she’s going to leave all that money that she’s making in the club, and the freedom of living on her own to move back in with her mother.

[@terriesmith2616]

Exactly. Mom can try but if daughter refuses to change, there's nothing mom or anyone can do. Daughter has to want to stop stripping, otherwise mom will just waste her time. Daughter is 25 years old, a full grown adult women.

[@hansonallie]

So glad somebody else said it! Now, if Mom agrees to set her up in her own apartment, pay her bills & any delta btwn that & what she was making at the strip club -maybe then Daughter would play ball??

[@amiblack8294]

She could very much LIKE being in the gutter, you never know..

[@kellharris2491]

This. Daughter is a grown woman. Mom is looking at the worst possible thing but many people are strippers and are just fine.

[@brookebenton8192]

I don't have any regret or shame from dancing. Was it traumatic at times? Yes. Would I do it again? No!! It was just a part of my life and now I've moved on and am at the best I've ever been spiritually and mentally. I made about $500 to $1,500 a night as well. Easy come easy go! That money would be gone by the following week. I didn't have a dime of that money left when I quit. She has to learn for herself though.

[@888altamber]

I did some smart stuff with the money I made. Paid off my car. Went to school and paid off student loans. The rest I blew on clothes and stuff and going out partying. I had fun though. I don’t regret it either. My parents did their best to be supportive but also concerned. They talked with me openly about drug use and staying away from the wrong crowd. I went to school and I was out before I graduated. There are probably girls I danced with twenty years ago that are dead now. I went to school and did stuff with my life after. Could I have done it without it? Yes, but I would have been in a lot more unmanageable debt if I had. So I made out ok in my book. I’m married over ten years today, have a house, normal life, no drug addictions, so it isn’t all bad for everyone. I have other friends who also did it and they have families and kids today and are also just fine. I support the mother going and getting her daughter, but I also support the daughter if she’s not having it yet. I just hope she gets out safely and doesn’t get into any bad elements there is all.

[@cabayern9416]

He is so correct! Convince her to come home!

[@jessieweitman-willich6345]

Wow this was a beautiful one, thank you.

[@jrlopezb]

perfect response John.

[@kayn2756]

These parents who watch their adult children struggle financially amaze me. I told my kids, as long as they aren't criminals or doing drugs, they are welcome to live in my home till they are stable financially. Wait a minute, if she is bringing 1k daily. Mmmh maybe she can strip for a year or 2 and collect that money.

[@thecramptons]

😂😂😂

[@rebeccaoprea9917]

Desperation leads us to do things we’d never think of doing . Only to put us into more desperate situations we then have to get out of . It’s a cycle .

[@Tristum1970]

agreed . If this is new and anomalous behavior , this is a full stop emergency.

[@lynnc5291]

It’s an important part to emphasize that she doesn’t need shame. The shame is what she is expecting to come from her mom and that’s why mom has found herself on the outs of her daughters life. Her daughter will always make her own choices good or bad but you hope you can be there to be a positive voice for her while she makes those choices.

[@relaxwithme__]

You nailed it 🎯

[@nt3833]

She really needed to call in for this advice? That’s not even my daughter and my first thought was bring her home! My kids will always be welcome in my home - as long as they’ve got a plan and are working towards something.

[@Native722]

Your daugther is an adult, she is from making her choices.

[@USpatriot741776]

Impressive, very nice. Now let's see her relationship with her father.

[@catharsismemory]

If my daughter is struggling to make ends meet, I would tell her to come home before I ever let her get the idea that getting on a pole is her only option. The both if them can work together and help pay bills until she saves enough money to get back in her feet again.

[@blueseptember2174]

Definitely offer space if you have it but why did the daughter think this was the only way? So many places hiring constantly. It's not 2008 anymore. So there is a personal accountability there as well. Difficult situation. Hoping it/ works out for both of them since they clearly love one another.

[@catharsismemory]

@Blue September stripping is fast easy money and doesn't take much skill or effort. ..except for having a certain look and pole skills. I'm assuming she was desperate and needed money immediately, it may not be 2008 anymore but cost living has gotten higher.

[@dougn7319]

Someone finally wants to work, and her parent is making her quit.

[@rebeccaoprea9917]

Oh please 🙄

[@dougn7319]

@@rebeccaoprea9917 Nobody wants to work anymore. We all need to step back and take a moment to admire this young woman's work ethic.

[@raindrop5273]

@@dougn7319 As long as it is her choice and no drugs, fully agree.

[@shelbysycamore637]

@@dougn7319 thank you. As long as she is paying taxes, I will not knock her hustle.

[@crazyinvaderfangirl1]

I wish you would just talk to her daughter like adults instead of “storming the gates of hell” without even so much as a discussion beforehand. She could be completely fine and safe and healthy but her mom wouldn’t know because she don’t talk to her. I’m just not of parents parents shitting on their kids Autonomy as adults. I feel like they’re majorly overreacting here. She’s stripping for fat stacks. She’s not a serial killer or a hitman chill. This conversation sounds so condescending like oh my God just go talk to her Jesus.

[@thejakelegion]

I know you don't want to say it John, because you're on air, but her parents getting divorced, her Dad being a total loser and their family being structured the way it has been is what is driving this girl to have a live-in boyfriend and turn to stripping when things don't turn out. The girl is a product of her parents, 100%. Parents, do better.

[@hikerhobby1204]

I respectfully disagree. My sons Dad and I were divorced when my son was two. His Dad didn’t want to work. My work values were much different. My son was in the top ten of his 800 student high school class. He attended an outstanding university and is now an aviator. Just because a child is raised by a single parent doesn’t mean they’ll grow up poorly.

[@Alvin-xs7db]

@@hikerhobby1204 the exception doesn't make the rule

[@thejakelegion]

@@hikerhobby1204 I would argue that your wonderful son turned out so well in spite of life circumstances, not because of them. I came from a nightmare childhood but I'm well adjusted and living a very fulfilling life in spite of that, not because of that. There's zero benefit to being a child in a fractured home.

[@hikerhobby1204]

@@thejakelegion I’ll have to respectfully argue your point. Had his Dad stayed in the picture my son would have learned by example how to be lazy and use drugs. Every circumstance is different.

[@thejakelegion]

@@hikerhobby1204 I would argue that his Dad being a broken man is part of a fractured home. I'm not condemning divorce or separation. I'm condemning, for all of us, fractured and broken homes. Obviously the best choice for your son would have been to have a loving and stable mother and a loving a stable father. Since his father went off the rails, the next best thing was separation, but that doesn't defeat my point that a healthy marriage is the best thing for a child. So to return to the video, again, I say that their broken home is a large contributor to their daughter hanging on a poll right now.

[@dannyhantx]

This is what happens when children don't grow up with strong father figures. Fathers, stay in your daughters' lives.

[@scaldon2]

Absolutely agree 💯. Children need there fathers. All the statistics show I child's best chance is being raised in household with both biological parents.

[@sonojon0]

This advice should be targeted to married women as well.

[@mickmash-5192]

The same father figures who stay in their daughters lives but then also attend strip clubs to watch and degrade other men’s daughters? So many male hypocrites commenting.

[@taylorsmith9629]

And why aren’t dads in kids lives?

[@scaldon2]

@@taylorsmith9629 well tge mother chooses who to have children with. Ask them

[@KoolT]

People become like the 5 people they are around the most. Pick your friends CAREFULLY AND WISELY. ❤

[@6ohTreez]

John, I can’t take you serious wearing that shirt! I love Turnstile, rock on!

[@TheMechanicj]

Needs to listen to project pat “don’t save her” explains everything

[@gretchasketch4829]

Grateful I have a momma who fought for me...go get her momma.

[@nathansimpson5721]

The fact is this an adult. And you have no right to ask them to change their career.

[@jasonrodgers9063]

A Masters degree in Social Work will wind up with her in a job with very low pay, tremendous stress, "burn-out" in 6 to 24 months. At least she has a "skill" to fall back on, at least as long as her physical attractiveness holds out. Yeah, it's sad, I know, but seriously, am I wrong?

[@cm5394]

Yes, having something to fall back on isn’t always a good thing. Someone could fall back on something that brings in money but destroys them internally.

[@jasonrodgers9063]

@@cm5394 She SHOULD have made a wiser choice of her educational field. Then none of this would be needed.

[@sitns23]

I agree. Same with male strippers.

[@SpeedfreakUK]

A skill that lasts until the ripe old age of 25, all the while reducing your chances of a relationship with a man because most men do not want to date, let alone marry, a sex worker.

[@martinjackson909]

Why is she getting a master’s in social work when a high school degree is usually enough? She’s stripping for a useless degree

[@SeanBaker]

If I made $1000 per night, I wouldn't "come home" either.

[@mynameis......23]

Not everyone is characterless like you

[@SeanBaker]

@@mynameis......23 And not everyone is a judgmental batch like you.

[@mynameis......23]

@@SeanBaker they should be or else there will be a lot of bold characterless people like you

[@Stardust19905]

I was a stripper and I'd rather dance at a club than move back in with my overbearing/controlling parents at 29 years old. Stripping is stigmatized.

[@Kamingo170]

@@mynameis......23 So characterless to make a living as an adult. Just because your skewed moral compass doesn't accept other adults making their own decisions doesn't mean anything. Idiot

[@switchlane2009]

100k subs…. Congratulations

[@yootoob1001001]

One outcome, and this is a stretch, but the experience might make her (incidentally of course, not that it's great to do it as field work or something) to be more sensitive as a social worker with her clients who might be in a similar situation and/or trying to get themselves out of it. However, there's also the chance that she might look at it at a temporary thing, get out of it when she graduates, and leave it behind, but there's the possibility that her past could also follow her, which could affect her credibility and opportunities. I really hope she reconsiders and gets out of that environment.

[@worldinperson]

He shouldn't encourage people to view their 25-year-old daughters as their baby girls. That is plain insulting and helps nobody. She is making her own decisions and parents need to treat her as an adult.

[@markl8893]

Lets get another call from the stripper"my moms a judgemental freak, how do i save her>?"

[@888altamber]

Yes the daughters perspective in this is completely unknown.

[@halloweendancing]

Exactly. People need to allow others to do what they want with their own bodies and lives.

[@chocovanille5809]

I was raised in a religious family and my parents divorcing lowered my self-steem and was tempted to do drugs, wilding out the streets etc but I never lived alone so doing so would make me crucified.

[@RedPandaHailey]

“My daughter is stripping; I think something’s going on.” “What’s going on?” “She’s trying to make ends meet.” THERE’S YOUR ANSWER ON WHY! Gen Z is fucked, there’s no wonder a lot of Gen Z girls are turning to different types of sex work cause that’s the only thing that makes a lot of money- even with a degree.

[@sagepirotess6312]

Remember when the DA of some state stripped because she couldn't pay her Bill's. Lol

[@bradleymaravalli2851]

Was she not making ends meet at the fancy resturant? Should like she was doing fine there.

[@sobeliever1638]

Thinking it is not the only thing

[@sarahdoanpeace3623]

Exactly

[@pbkayakyer]

I know this isn't going to be a popular opinion, but quite honestly, stripping in an of itself is not a bad job. Obviously, there are very real dangers, and concerns about the environment, but there are establishments that take care of the girls. And a strong woman with good upbringing and morals can really thrive for a couple years. If you know she has those, then she'll be fine. If she has a history of substance abuse or low self esteem/confidence, then you are going to have to fight like hell to get her back.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

True, but sometimes people don't like stripping and have to in order to make ends meet. If this is the daughter's sentiment, then the mom needs to come help

[@888altamber]

I used to strip and I thank you for your judgment free thinking. Not all strippers are drug addicts and hookers. For me it was a job. A job I used to make a ton of money doing. It was hard to leave but I left it a long long time ago. I’m still tying to make near what I used to make back then. I miss the money but nothing else about it. I watched some girls waste their life there but I also watched many become business women and create their businesses while there too. You could tell who was who while working there.

[@mle011]

I agree. A few of my friends are exotic dancers/strippers and they have healthy relationships, friends, career goals, aren’t doing drugs, etc. They’re just making good money by talking to and schmoozing men at the club.

[@kellharris2491]

This was like working nights at Wal-Mart for me. Maybe the area really matters but were I was at most of those people were at a dead end in life. Many looked worn out. The people with ambition left to better jobs after awhile but other people were content with the drudgery and steady pay check.

[@Eric_Bassett]

The only problem I see is society having a puritanical and judgmental attitude towards sex workers. Nobody.. NOBODY. Has the right to judge this grown woman and her decisions.

[@halloweendancing]

Thank you!! So strange she can’t just do what she wants with her own body.

[@888altamber]

I was a stripper when I was young. Some of it was influence from friends but it was mostly influence from my ex-boyfriend. It had nothing to do with my parents. At first my parents didn’t know, I kept it from them. I finally shared it with them and they tried to be supportive. I did it while I finished college. I did not do drugs or anything illegal. It affected my adult relationships in my twenties and how I felt towards men seeing them at what I felt was their worst. Other than that though it wasn’t the end of the world. I did however see some girls come in there with plans to finish school and get into drugs. Honestly my advice would be to encourage very open conversations with your daughter about what she is experiencing there, drug use, if she’s getting involved in any other unscrupulous stuff, what her relationships are like and how they’re going. So long as she can feel like she can talk openly and honestly to share what’s going on with her parents I think she will be fine and move on from it. Just continue to show her support and love and be there for her. If it seems like she is on drugs, having relationship problems with any abusive partners, getting involved in shady behavior where she starts hiding things more, stealing or hanging out with really rough people then I would step in and take the advice Dr. Delony said absolutely. Give her some space to possibly figure out it isn’t for her and accomplish her degree but be supportive. If things don’t seem right then trust your gut and have her move back home and do what you need to do ASAP. Not all of the girls I worked with there were drug addicts, hookers, or going down the drain. Many learned to be self sufficient business women in fact. However you literally could tell the difference between the ones doing it right versus wrong by looking them in the eyes at their pupils and talking with them to see if they were on drugs to see which way it was going to go for them.

[@bailee7696]

There is no such thing as doing it correct it’s wrong all around. U don’t know what is going on behind closed doors of those women life. There kids have to live their lives knowing their mom was a stripper. These women did no learn how to become successful business women through stripping. It was a low point of their lives To say that they did it correctly is like saying a drug dealer sold heroine correctly and now is successful

[@888altamber]

@@bailee7696 you have no idea. You ever worked at one? If you have then elaborate for me. I HAVE worked at three and I met lots of different types of girls there. Some were pill heads, or other types of drug addicts, some had abusive relationships, some had daddy issues, some were there for cold hard cash and were really smart and had some major plans. They used it to finish school, start a business, and get ahead at an accelerated rate. Now that may not be something you like morally, but that is a fact. Not all of the women in those clubs are there to provide sex or drugs. Many want absolutely nothing to do with the men that frequent there romantically or sexually. They simply dance for them, create fantasies for them, and use the exchange of money as a method to make cold hard cash fast. Statistically it can go either way ending horribly for them with drugs, or with them leaving with an education or business or buying real estate. The latter were the ones I admired and respected there. They didn’t do drugs or hardly drink. You could tell the difference looking at them and talking to them. Predictably you could tell which would burn out and go on downward spirals too. They usually abused drugs in the club, stopped going to school, or had really bad boyfriends who were drug dealers or abusive. So thereby the way to know if her daughter is in trouble is to look at who she’s associating with and into and her relationships. Plain and simple. FYI there’s tons of women out there today that were strippers when they were young and you would never even know it today. So YOUR personal religious or moral beliefs is literally of no consequence to the reality out there in the world literally everyday.

[@bailee7696]

@@888altamber oh yeah totally my religious beliefs have no consequences in the real world. Maybe if those men in that club were religious they wouldn’t need false sexual fantasies. Or maybe we actually have functioning families and low rates of divorce or low rates of unplanned pregnancy It is the result of ur secular ideologies is the reason why these men are there in those clubs

[@bailee7696]

@@888altamber and also have u talked to those women since then. Cause most will regret every minute of that stripping stint

[@888altamber]

@@bailee7696 a couple of them. Still fine. Have kids now. Went to to her college graduation and visited her up in Boston once. The other I was with her when she had her daughter and she lives closer. Neither of us have danced in two decades now. No one has drug problems. I’m married. My husband knows my past I talk about it with him openly. We want to adopt and have been married for ten years. Anymore questions?

[@dr.bradshaw]

As someone who has visited strip clubs and carry guilt from it. I firmly believe that they should be illegal. Sexual desire and temptation is way more addictive/dangerous than we care to discuss. It rips apart people, families, finances, mental health, etc and we are simply just allowing it all to happen on a daily basis, and not only allowing it, but celebrating it. We need this to end.

[@HamiltonRb]

If you were talking about assault rifles, the same things you mentioned would apply but neither one will happen

[@angryox3102]

Yeah I avoid them like a plague. As a lonely guy it’s way too easy for me to fall down the rabbit hole and throw away too much money in those places.

[@nebulousJames12345]

False. Strip climbs aren’t guaranteed by the 2nd amendment in order to defend against foreign or domestic governments. A littler different

[@scarpfish]

If you want sexually oriented business to go away, you need to solve these two problems. 1. Make sure all men, no matter how unattractive or cretinous they are have access to a sexual partner that they don't have to pay for. 2. Make sure all younger women (and by younger I mean anyone younger than 40) have access to good paying work with schedule flexibility that doesn't involve demeaning themselves. Good luck on both counts, esspecially since as a society we've placed excessive strain on parents to well, be parents who raise children who would never patronize or work in such places. Making them illegal does nothing to stop the demand that allows them to exist.

[@scarpfish]

​@@nebulousJames12345 The 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with his argument.

[@tspencer661]

To the caller: Mom, you’re going to have to be the parent. As long as you have open arms and an open heart, your daughter will be okay. Give your daughter a safe place to land without judgment. It doesn’t sound as if Dad (your ex) has the capacity to be a parent. Do what you think is best. AFTER you go get her and bring her home, tell your ex what you’ve done. (One of my friends gave me great advice about dealing with my ex. She told me to do whatever is best for our daughter and then tell him about it later. That way I wouldn’t be upset and complain that he wasn’t helping. For example, a few months back, I had to take my daughter to the hospital because of an excruciating headache. I made the mistake of telling my daughter to message her father to let him know that we were going to the hospital. His response was, “Do I need to go to the hospital?”🤦🏾‍♀️. I should have taken her and told him about it AFTERWARDS.). Step up. Be a parent. Love your child. Good luck.

[@blueseptember2174]

This is amazing advice! I kept trying to parent with him like a couple but he is not capable due to his choices. It's so against my nature to just do something and talk later but it's better than being resentful like you mentioned. If they were healthy minded, I could deal with them in a healthier way. But for now, we do what we gotta do!

[@Abombsucksalot]

Unpopular opinion here, but I dont think a woman choosing to strip for money is always a terrible thing. I know multiple women who have paid for their Masters degrees/other degrees by doing it a night a week. In one night they can make 1000-3000$ in some places, without a hand laid upon them. Personally, Im not going to judge that and say its terrible. That being said, some women are in a bad place and stripping could make their lives worse. To each their own, it depends highly on the individual situation imo

[@mirabella2154]

They are in a bad place.

[@Erins2q1]

I agree, they only briefly mentioned that she dumped her deadbeat boyfriend and now she’s on her own. I think that was a smart choice, so I’m not prepared to judge her if she wants to go to work at the club. It sounds like she still wants to earn her masters degree and I hope does. ♥️

[@lynnebucher6537]

I once met a gal who stripped to cash flow her way through dental school. She had a structured plan for how long she'd do it. I expect she's been a dentist for many years now.

[@lauren4078]

Would you want your mother, sister, or daughter to be strippers, though? Would you be happy to tell your friends and colleagues about their profession?

[@erinsawyer9684]

@@lauren4078 I understand what you’re saying. But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what the neighbors think. If my sister needed my support, I would dump my friends first.

[@apophispnw5717]

Let her shake her money maker for some cash. Women are lucky they can make a ridiculous amount of money by just showing off a little.

[@donaldlyons17]

In my area some of them were making 200 a night. I meet one girl that paid cash for nursing school doing it!

[@1lelepontes]

I can confirm 100% that she is doing that because something was going on during her childhood. This type of behavior comes from a rebel type of personality.

[@sustainabilitytheory5154]

Great advice, John. Daughter fell into temptation, people make mistakes. Single Mom and failure dad must fight to help daughter find redemption. Show her there's a better path, hopefully one day she will follow a more riotous path. A Dad's main job is to keep their daughter off the pole.

[@raymondjames2590]

Well I suppose she can do what John said but there is still not alot said in this situation hope it works out for her. But like the prodigal son until she realizes she can at least eat better at home and puts her pride and stubbornness away there's not much you can do except offer her a place of safety

[@Kitkat-wu3ow]

IMO, the type of work her daughter chose to be in should be respected. It certainly may not be a choice for the majority of society...but frankly the stigma and negativity of being in the industry needs to stop. I know a couple of ladies who were in it for the $$ and put themselves through college with a phd. And another one stabilized her life as a single mom.

[@annah3359]

Usually there is drugs and alcohol involved to do this job. It might already be too late.

[@TimothyCow]

I’m sure u become devalued doing that

[@johniii8147]

Rhythm is a dancer

[@JustinCase780]

And, the click bait gets better every time..🤣 Hats off to the marketing team!

[@freedomfan4272]

It obviously caught your attention 😆

[@JustinCase780]

@@freedomfan4272 Thank you a voice from the studio 🤣

[@bufficliff8978]

It's not clickbait. Its literally what the video is about.

[@livinginoklahomacityofficial]

Turnstile rips. Dr. John knows what's up.

[@amendaalmonte2236]

If the boyfriend wasn’t paying before (which is why she kicked him out) then what’s the difference after she kicked him out?

[@TheBlueBlur100]

Waisting resources such as water, electricity, food, and toilet paper

[@nothinwatever]

EXACTLY WHAT I SAID 😂

[@blueseptember2174]

I would've dropped the lease with insistence or sublet the apartment. She also could've called Dave at that time I suppose.

[@TheFlyingZulu]

Trauma and regret from stripping? Huh? Is it REALLY that horrible? I've never been a stripper so maybe I don't know. lol. What I do know is that every club I've been too there are very well defined rules for what patrons can and can't do... If you cross that line, you get kicked out.

[@raindrop5273]

I am guessing from all the shame heaped on this girl from prudes.

[@shelbysycamore637]

When a trauma counselor says she will experience truama from this but doesn't talk about the trauma he experienced while dealing with grieving families and abused children at his job. There's hazards with all types of work.

[@888altamber]

I danced for three years over twenty five years ago. I never got strung out on drugs, or had abusive relationships, or became a prostitute or had sex with any men or even fooled around with them. I only tried dating three men I met there in those years and they were all my own age. Two I only went on a date once with and did not have sex with them. One I became serious with because we had mutual friends and then I left dancing all together for him because ultimately I was almost done with college and didn’t want to be there anymore. No traumas no regrets either. My current husband knows I used to be a stripper and I’ve shared some of my stories with him. Many women I have met professionally since then that I’ve become friends with I’ve also learned used to be dancers too. Similar stories and they’re also successful and some have families now. There’s also about 50% of the other girls in the club that were doing drugs, dating drug dealers etc so I can understand that it didn’t go as well for the other half of women in the clubs. Yes there are rules for the clubs and most of the patrons follow it and so do the girls. Some break them and tip people out well to keep their secrets for them. I NEVER saw any funny business when I was a dancer. I tried going back to cocktail for a couple weeks and that was when I saw an incident of funny business. So then I was outta there because I am not personally down with that. So depends on the club, the dancer and the patron.

[@leahzelson3749]

@@shelbysycamore637 THANK YOU.

[@lauren4078]

@@888altamber Your experience was also over 25 years ago. I would venture that the business now is seedier than ever. Soft White Underbelly is a KZbin channel that has tons of interviews with sex workers, and most of them have some kind of drug, alcohol, or mental issues. For most, their childhoods were filled with trauma. However, you also have the one-offs who are well-adjusted adults, but they do recognize that their line of work is typically very dangerous, high risk, and seedy.

[@jamessolis5301]

Can't save her. She's for the streets

[@martinjackson909]

Hopefully her social work degree will save her

[@BestShootermanUbz]

She don’t want to be saved 😂😂

[@Vbe796]

Absolutely not true and a cop out.

[@Ayesha______]

Everyone can be saved. Allah accepts repentance from everyone

[@blair9607]

As a ex stripper … this was weird to listen to . I started stripping when I was at uni because I was told once I leave home there’s no room to come back ( my mum had my sibling 15 years after me ) . I went to uni in a house share with my bf at the time , we broke up and things got awkward . I asked the landlord if I found someone to replace me could I come out of my agreement and she said no . So I had to find a way to pay for two living spaces and my food and other bills . My parents are poor . I had a sports coaching certificate ( only level 1 which in my hometown meant I could teach but in this new city wasn’t enough they wouldn’t take my 2 years experience) it would if paid £15 a hour but looking at the maths of the situation I was screwed even if I got the level 2 . My parents wanted me to go to uni , I didn’t even really want to ( I wish I was more assertive but I was 18, it’s something I learnt the hard way ) so I couldn’t give up uni or I would of disappointed them . So I took the job stripping . Once I did it and crossed that line I thought I’d get my driving license , a car , a house. I did all those things . I didn’t go into prostitution and I didn’t take drugs at all ( not even smoking ) . It took 7 years to get out because I started believing I couldn’t explain my job history ‘ gap’ , that I didn’t have any ‘ skills’ etc . When in reality it was far from the truth , I’m good with money , I have sales skills , nerves of steel and I would build on my art skills in the day time without pressure so I got good . I’m now a business owner , home owner ( under 30) and debt free. There’s trauma , I have some dysfunctional aspects to myself ( as do a lot of people) I’m aware of it and I’m healing , I wouldn’t advise anyone to take the path I did I’m lucky and I thank God everyday it didn’t get as bad as it has for some of my friends and I’m very grateful for how things have gone for me . This is just my story . I’m not saying this is how it is for every stripper everyone’s different

[@blueseptember2174]

It's not worth it. I'm glad you came out of it and have done well for yourself. If I can't recommend it to my children , then I can't do it either. That's my new way of looking at life. Hope things change for the caller and her daughter.

[@dewilew2137]

So...if you understand and agree that your situation is not the norm, and very atypical for women who do sex work, why was this video “weird to listen to”? It sounds like you know that many women who strip come from situations like the one shared in this video. What was the point of this comment at all?

[@bufficliff8978]

I'd be dead without the grace of my mother and I'll never be able to repay her for it

[@janelleg597]

The money can be very very good.

[@sharonv4633]

Good mama

[@TheFreeAgentLifestyle]

More and more Gen Z girls will be doing stuff like this since liberation is a thing. She probably has an Only Fans and a Sugar Daddy too. You can't save her, she don't want to be saved

[@taylorsmith9629]

It’s not “liberation is a thing”. It’s because life is too dam expensive. She is going for a masters degree. That is ridiculously expensive. She can make tons more stripping than she can waitressing at Denny’s.

[@paulchakola7372]

Coach, is that you?

[@user-lw2qg1ov5d]

Having a daughter in 2023 be like

[@constancelindsey3946]

I got into stripping in Des Moines many years ago. I became a top feature act and danced all over the nation. In hindsight, I was looking for male attention I didn't get at home from my father. But then the inevitable happened...I fell down that rabbit hole and didnt stop for ten years...But when I finally left the business I set goals and became one of the top criminal defense investigators on federal capital cases throughout the US. The money, the attention and the power you have in that business is very addicting. If she hasn't been in it very long there's a chance she could leave but with the peer pressure and everything...not sure. My advice is to stay in touch with her daily and her father needs to be involved with her as much as he can. ❤

[@felis1224]

Where is the full version?

[@peterwilliams8434]

Yo dr. John has a turnstile shirt on lol. Dope

[@ahmritroets2596]

If she has a good head on her shoulders its a good possibility that she'll be just fine. I personally know women who have stripped and looked at it like a job made the money hit their goals and gotten out. They are now living successful lives just fine. The alternative to that is scary. I do very much feel for this mother.

[@kathylovesmk]

Once they are adults we have no more control over their decisions. Sorry John, but you can't just "go get them and bring them home". You can offer, tell them they're welcome at home, etc. but we can't make them do anything.

[@blueseptember2174]

Can't make them, but can you imagine how loved through pure action the daughter would feel knowing her mom came to got her even though she's grown? Like, she might say no, but there is no denying that daughter would know she was loved.

[@Ja50nkAt]

Where's the father?