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Dave Mustaine VS Kirk Hammett Part 1

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@Courtjester138
@Courtjester138 8 жыл бұрын
Kirk is best for Metallica, Dave is best for Megadeth. I am very glad they kicked Dave out because we got two awesome groups out it instead of just one.
@Bulhakas
@Bulhakas 7 жыл бұрын
Two awesome groups? You mean Megadeth and who else? Being kicked out of Metallica was the best thing that happened to Dave because he was free to do the best music he could without James and Lars holding him back.
@johnkratos4313
@johnkratos4313 6 жыл бұрын
and it's good for dimebag didn't join megadeth because we got Groovy Pantera!
@lunchboxtoothpick3775
@lunchboxtoothpick3775 5 жыл бұрын
Yea but it would have been to imagine metallica if dave had never left....Dave dope lyrics and James's better singing vocals and combined riffege of both of them
@d1gitaldeath
@d1gitaldeath 4 жыл бұрын
Couldnt agree more
@cheddar24_0.o
@cheddar24_0.o 3 жыл бұрын
exactly
@angeloyola8430
@angeloyola8430 Жыл бұрын
Dave = speed Kirk = melody Two great guitarrist Of all Time, with different styles, this Is the magic that this guys... Dave was so fast for Metallica
@Badxguitarr
@Badxguitarr 9 ай бұрын
I mean nowadays kirk bad even at melody and Only one Dave Mustaine writing riffs for Megadeth very melodic just it's two different bands nowadays we can't compare them anymore
@NAlvazaz
@NAlvazaz 8 ай бұрын
No. Dave's guitar playing is expressive. He obviously feels the music in his bones.
@NAlvazaz
@NAlvazaz 8 ай бұрын
That's fast and expressive!
@jacksonwolfe8517
@jacksonwolfe8517 4 ай бұрын
Listen to my last words
@leonshreds
@leonshreds 3 ай бұрын
i can tell you never list ened to megadeth, dave has melody too , and kirk has speed too
@kevinblanco2451
@kevinblanco2451 8 жыл бұрын
There is no thrash without Dave
@alpertugrul5582
@alpertugrul5582 6 ай бұрын
lol
@sainandanramakrishnan4812
@sainandanramakrishnan4812 7 жыл бұрын
Dave's solos sound metal af inspite of the fact that they were recorded on fucking demo quality and also written in a garage in short time. Kirk's *rendition* of Dave's solos ( would like to point that out ), were all recorded in a damn studio and released as a polished album on a bigger label ( a.k.a much better recording tech and presentation ) which is why they sound cleaner.
@d1gitaldeath
@d1gitaldeath 4 жыл бұрын
100% ryt but at the end off the day kirks covering his solos in this ovsly he wont be as good as the guy that made the solo imo dave is better BUT kirk sounds better playing with metallica i think his style tempo fit them way better than daves ever did hes almost like speed metal i dunno maybe cause im used to hearing kirk more just thought his guitar fitted better with the band maybe the tempo
@lalruatatochhawng7715
@lalruatatochhawng7715 4 жыл бұрын
Name: Shit Sherlock First Name: No
@mcgrudo
@mcgrudo 3 жыл бұрын
Dam right... darn tootin'
@youreokayboah2128
@youreokayboah2128 2 жыл бұрын
What? Metallica was anti mainstream when first starting off lmfao, it wasn’t until after Master of Puppets was when they wanted to go big.
@troyneilson6553
@troyneilson6553 8 ай бұрын
Ive only ever heard out of daves mouth that they took all his music that he “left behind” if he didnt want them using it he shouldve taken it. It has taken all of the credit from kirk who has written some legendary music over the years, A LOT more known and legendary than daves shit he calls music megadeth sounds like its name a bunch of people dying at once. KIRK BABY🤘🏼🤘🏼
@seanfitzpatrick7878
@seanfitzpatrick7878 4 жыл бұрын
Kirk's solos were definitely his rendition of Dave's solos. Kirk's were cleaner and more in the pocket but Dave's had a "live" feel to them that adds a lot to the product. In the end, I'm glad that Dave was kicked out because he would never have been able to create his music that he heard in his head if he was with James and Lars. I love Metallica and I love Megadeth equally as much. By splitting, they brought the world two amazing metal bands.
@bigassdummy46
@bigassdummy46 3 жыл бұрын
Probably because of a professional recording studio vs a blank cassette
@nonyobussiness3440
@nonyobussiness3440 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not glad Dave was kicked out because it made him miserable
@leonglee9210
@leonglee9210 2 жыл бұрын
@@nonyobussiness3440 and in consequence of that he made Megadeth bro
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 Жыл бұрын
@@leonglee9210 yea it’s best Dave got the boot Personally I like his singing and the anger fueled their first 2 albums And Dave didn’t lose a step even with Metallica having cliff to help them with music theory Dave was right there with them Metallica got ahead on master of puppets but cave caught right back up with rust I just wish we had a proper release of no life till leather because it’s cool to hear the megadeth influences in Metallica
@elguitarTom
@elguitarTom Жыл бұрын
you are comparing a demo with a studio take.
@anggadinata658
@anggadinata658 6 жыл бұрын
Kirk is a good guitar player while Dave is in another level. He is a superhuman. He has something unique that no one could reach it. Dave Mustaine all the way !!!
@yvesblues560
@yvesblues560 3 жыл бұрын
Kirk plays way clearer and with much more variety
@adrianschwarz5570
@adrianschwarz5570 2 жыл бұрын
@Googly eyes Im from Germany
@apocalypse3485
@apocalypse3485 2 жыл бұрын
@Googly eyes Yea, but no one talked about riffs or singing, Kirk is the lead guitar.
@apocalypse3485
@apocalypse3485 2 жыл бұрын
@Googly eyes Alright, if you say so.
@PacMan-ph4uy
@PacMan-ph4uy 2 жыл бұрын
@Googly eyes wrong again 🤡
@racing7782
@racing7782 Жыл бұрын
there is no way to say which one is better. One is a demo and the other is a crystal clear album. Besides I dont care I love both bands.
@yoloswag_8172
@yoloswag_8172 2 жыл бұрын
Mustaine solos are so wild
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio Жыл бұрын
No rhythm, just listen to 4:14 solo has more rhythm daves is just wild and it's not even going with the music
@GuitarNgames666
@GuitarNgames666 10 ай бұрын
@@AlexRubioand thats because there different songs did you not pay attention?
@wretchedsaint8847
@wretchedsaint8847 8 ай бұрын
Kirk is trying to play Dave’s solo but he can’t play that fast, go listen to the Mechanix live from 1997 in Ft Lauderdale, Kirk has never come close to that level. If you think Dave didn’t have melody in his solos even in those days go watch the show he did just before he was kicked out, NY show in 83 with Cliff.
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 15 жыл бұрын
you rarely hear mustaine repeating the same licks man. very rarely! theres the odd lick that he uses twice.(devils island and five magics solos) and the tripple pull off to the next string sometimes!
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 Жыл бұрын
Dave has one signature thing he uses all the time U can hear it towards the end of Holy wars, handed 18, Middle of well be back I’m sure I can find more of it, more of a signature than a repeat Something he uses to be like I’m Dave lol
@mauriciotapia5929
@mauriciotapia5929 8 жыл бұрын
dave its my style faster and more agressive . dave its the best.
@razoredge6476
@razoredge6476 5 жыл бұрын
Faster is not always better
@michaelhorn9114
@michaelhorn9114 4 жыл бұрын
@@razoredge6476 YES, FASTER AND WAY BETTER!!!!!!!!
@yvesblues560
@yvesblues560 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is lame, what you call aggressive play ist unprecise and stereotype, Kirks playing is much more detailed, sophisticated, a sure wider sound hall
@TheOtherCreeper
@TheOtherCreeper 10 жыл бұрын
A...all of the solos are mustaines...
@bencepatyi4032
@bencepatyi4032 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Had to scroll way too far for this!!
@AyedYoutube
@AyedYoutube 6 жыл бұрын
T-they clearly do not sound exactly the same and is re-recorded by Hammet...
@cjay_thephotographer
@cjay_thephotographer 6 жыл бұрын
Hit the lights' originally was written by Loyd Grant, listen to the Metal Massacre (fist press) version
@scabbyrod566
@scabbyrod566 5 жыл бұрын
Of course they are. It's the only way you're gonna get them playing solos for the same song.
@Mrcloc
@Mrcloc 4 жыл бұрын
And then Kirk improved them and played them better.
@pavidmurtz8340
@pavidmurtz8340 2 жыл бұрын
Just by hearing Dave and Kirk play. I'd say it be amazing to hear a mustaine Metallica reboot if they ball got over their egos.
@KISSAceGenePaulPete1
@KISSAceGenePaulPete1 14 жыл бұрын
Dave really actually got better after he left Metallica so i'm goin with Dave
@jethrokeys1438
@jethrokeys1438 3 жыл бұрын
same!!
@rustyrattle5776
@rustyrattle5776 Жыл бұрын
Kirk sounds fast, but at the same time melodic, precise and clear. Dave sounds blistering, unhinged and batshit crazy. Different styles but in my eyes, both great guitarists. I feel many people criticize Hammett just because he replaced Mustaine in the band, but his playing sounds impeccable here. Yes, he clearly used some of the demo solos as blueprints for his own, but Kirk also sounds different enough to be distinguishable from Dave. And to be honest, these solos aren’t very sophisticated structurally; they’re a bunch of repeating, Michael Schenker-type pentatonic/blues licks and patterns strung together. Besides Metallica did give Dave credit for the stuff he wrote, and Kirk created tons of iconic and complex leads that definitely made him an independent guitarist from Dave very early on in his career
@elguitarTom
@elguitarTom Жыл бұрын
you are comparing a demo take to a studio take. Dave would have sound way better in a studio take
@rustyrattle5776
@rustyrattle5776 Жыл бұрын
​@@elguitarTom a stereotypical Dave Mustaine solo doesn't sound much different from this tho aside from the obvious difference in sound quality in a demo vs a Megadeth album
@Erich-y3z
@Erich-y3z Жыл бұрын
Dave self taught Sigma male, Kirk had over a decade studying guitar beta male ,James and Kirk beta males caught between Dave sigma and Lars alpha
@randomstuff4762
@randomstuff4762 Жыл бұрын
​@@Erich-y3zimagine being taught by Joe fricking Satriani and still being worse than a self taught
@dennermartins5176
@dennermartins5176 9 жыл бұрын
Dave's solos are way more wild!
@Jay-D049
@Jay-D049 7 жыл бұрын
Mixed Mask What the fuck are you on about. Mustaine is a fucking genius in riffs, solos and melodies compared to fucking wahmet
@neals1232
@neals1232 6 жыл бұрын
Mixed Mask ich dachte schon dass ich der einzige bin 😊
@Haxprocess
@Haxprocess 6 жыл бұрын
Mixed Mask yea and kirk playing the same solo over and over again has sooo much feel.
@harrykadaras9459
@harrykadaras9459 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jay-D049 You are correct - well said!
@dimitrisvill1411
@dimitrisvill1411 3 жыл бұрын
@Mixed Mask listen to My Last Words..
@samuelpardana
@samuelpardana 7 жыл бұрын
demo solos can’t be compared to solos from finished albums.
@daisycherry7242
@daisycherry7242 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they can.
@oldmatevb
@oldmatevb 4 жыл бұрын
Zakk's Account not all lmao
@IkerPineapple
@IkerPineapple 4 жыл бұрын
@@daisycherry7242 imagine doing 30 takes for a solo, while on a demo you practically play it live
@harrykadaras9459
@harrykadaras9459 4 жыл бұрын
@@daisycherry7242 You need to learn the music business before posting idiotic comments
@onutube6392
@onutube6392 4 жыл бұрын
they can when the demo solos are better
@tyreekmurillo4524
@tyreekmurillo4524 10 жыл бұрын
u cant really count kill em all because thats daves stuff
@rtornellort
@rtornellort 10 жыл бұрын
Dave,no doubt.
@TomHolloway123
@TomHolloway123 10 жыл бұрын
first 4 bars of each kill em all solo is Davis
@TheOtherCreeper
@TheOtherCreeper 10 жыл бұрын
This entire video was daves stuff...
@frankpeltier1748
@frankpeltier1748 8 жыл бұрын
Tom Holloway bahahahahha. Fucken Lame ass Comment ... you 'Tallica rulz' fuckheads ?? Are a Joke ..! Sure Gaga
@daisycherry7242
@daisycherry7242 5 жыл бұрын
You can indeed count it. It's the most fair comparison. It's to see who played the solos better, regardless of what it is. Playing the same solos is fair to compare.
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 15 жыл бұрын
it's actually a Vintage BC Rich Bich 10 String Exotic (with only 6 strings strung). In the old spalted maple design they used. Beautiful guitar!
@GiantRubberDuck93
@GiantRubberDuck93 15 жыл бұрын
Mustaine can be melodic too, its just that it doesn't fit the song a lot since he has guitarists like Poland or Friedman to be melodic. He's melodic in the Symphony of Destruction demo and his solo on High Speed Dirt though.
@srncet
@srncet 5 жыл бұрын
But dave wore all the solos cause 1981 - 1983 was dave in charge
@RedElephantStampede
@RedElephantStampede 8 жыл бұрын
Regardless of Dave's alcohol issues James and Lars were NOTHING without Him. Mustaine put them on the map, period.
@frankpeltier1748
@frankpeltier1748 8 жыл бұрын
RedElephantStampede he Also Knocked James The Fuck Out !! Like the Bitch He is
@masaaacoka
@masaaacoka 7 жыл бұрын
lol he didn't knock him out, he just punched him in the face
@Squall6575
@Squall6575 6 жыл бұрын
LOL and for that James gave him the ultimate fuck you, by kicking him out of the biggest metal band period.
@Haxprocess
@Haxprocess 6 жыл бұрын
@@Squall6575 u mean the shittiest metal band ever that stole from countless bands?
@mateuszgrzejszczyk5700
@mateuszgrzejszczyk5700 5 жыл бұрын
@@Haxprocess I don't care how much time passed. Care to give some examples?
@axxion231
@axxion231 2 жыл бұрын
Daves motorbreaths solos are insane
@Walamonga1313
@Walamonga1313 6 жыл бұрын
Should’ve compared other albums. Specifically Ride The Lightning vs Peace Sells, Kirk’s best vs Dave’s best.
@shred9475
@shred9475 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@aceruiz8151
@aceruiz8151 Жыл бұрын
I feel Kirk’s best melodically is justice or master although my favorite album is ride the lightning
@ronpaul1082
@ronpaul1082 3 жыл бұрын
Daves solos are just cooler even though he's basically being recorded on a blank cassette tape . Kirk's cheating with a wah and being professionally recorded , I mean come on
@orkunkoksal8711
@orkunkoksal8711 3 жыл бұрын
For Kill 'Em All, they wanted Kirk to play Dave's solos note by note but when he cringed a litle they told him to play the first 4 bars of each solo note by note and improvize the rest. What he did was similar but he only played the parts he liked note by note and improvized the rest. Since they didn't have any more time left in the studio, nobody said anything like "go do it again like we told you to do!"
@TheFuckingVicious
@TheFuckingVicious Жыл бұрын
Was Dave also being recorded on a blank cassette tape when he played his sloppy solos on early Megadeth studio albums? Proof? Ok, here's his professionally recorded playing on Peace Sells: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5jMgZmdhtaXrKc
@austinwoods466
@austinwoods466 3 ай бұрын
Dave Mustaine is the best lead guitar player Metallica has ever had. You know its Sad But True.
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 Жыл бұрын
I love how they took mechanix slowed it down and renamed it So Dave said screw u Took it back with his lyrics and made it even faster
@randomstuff4762
@randomstuff4762 Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah but they added like 3 riffs. One which dave suggested but still.
@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano
@jeffersonaraujoelcristiano 3 жыл бұрын
Guitar levels 1 to 10 Dave Mustaine: level 8 Kirk Hammet: level 7 David wins.
@Rattlehead2Deth
@Rattlehead2Deth 16 жыл бұрын
i find it a testament to daves skill that he didnt even have to rehearse to join metallica he just plugged in, warmed up and was in. Also big mistake for metallica auditioning kirk on an already written song, a good forewarning that he wouldn't ever come up with shit for songs or solos.
@onutube6392
@onutube6392 Жыл бұрын
He did write the. Creeping death riff in exodus though, back when it was die by his hand, so he could write, its just he didnt have as much say with riffs as james and earlier on dave and cliff did up until dave was axed and cliff got fucked over by a tour bus from hell and his insane luck with cards actually being what sealed his fate
@DuncStatus
@DuncStatus 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is probably better on this album but overall I’d say Kirk is better with solos as they’re more melodic and memorable. Dave is more shreddy and while I subjectively enjoy that more, Kirk’s melodic solos are better. When it comes to riffs, Dave wins, no competition.
@stuartewoldt1513
@stuartewoldt1513 2 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Dave mustaine being trapped down how Kirk is. The dude has very minimal impact on the overall Metallica songs. Mustain wrote a lot in Metallica and is the over all feel of the whole first album. I think that’s why they kicked him out, stole his sound and got all the money from it. Dave is the original thrash, there is just no way around it. I mean if he wasn’t respected Kerry king would not have went down to help him in mid 1984. That goes to show how well Dave was known
@StartAndFail
@StartAndFail 11 жыл бұрын
Mustaine wrote'em...
@liamsagucio61
@liamsagucio61 3 жыл бұрын
All
@b0gdan491
@b0gdan491 6 жыл бұрын
This proves how much production changes the sound. Kirk's solos sound cleaner because of the better production.
@TheFuckingVicious
@TheFuckingVicious Жыл бұрын
Nope. Kirk's cleaner, because he's a better lead player. Mustaine's also sloppy on studio recordings (just listen to his isolated tracks on Peace Sells) and live. With that said, Mustaine's a better guitar player overall, if we include everything, down to composition skills.
@demontainman
@demontainman 2 жыл бұрын
Dave Mustaine is the best guitarist they could have, most of the solos on the first 4 Metallica albums he wrote. Kirk is good, but by no means Dave's best. Dave Mustaine is the godfather of thrash metal!
@crimsondeath7468
@crimsondeath7468 Жыл бұрын
Kirk is a way better LEAD guitarist"most awesome Megadeth solos are played by the other guitarists" but Dave is a exellent song writer and riff maker. So in the end it all worked out for the best. Two so dominating song writers as Dave and James the same band in would have never worked in the long run
@cicero.0209
@cicero.0209 12 жыл бұрын
Guys,is very easy to see the influences of daves solo's in Kirk solos, just listen to the part 1:36 t0 1:40, its a caracteristic Dave's lick
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 16 жыл бұрын
he still plays some of his old solo's live. holy ars is as good as ever!
@marioskaloudis22
@marioskaloudis22 4 жыл бұрын
even though dave is much more technical and virtuasic, i think Kirk has blues influenced style that really suits Metallica. his vibraros for instance are amazing. i think Dave lacks this color. but that's also what makes dave rawer. so i guess they're both dope
@bigassdummy46
@bigassdummy46 3 жыл бұрын
Kirk is known for having shit vibrato
@Speed_Metal_Attack
@Speed_Metal_Attack 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, Megadeth literally covered 'i ain't superstitious' by Jeff Beck which is blues. You are ignorant as hell.
@marioskaloudis22
@marioskaloudis22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Speed_Metal_Attack calm down its not my fault you're gay for Dave. id fuck the shit outta him fosho but you seem obsessed. I don't care what he "covered", you can't judge a musician based on their covers. i don't think you play music so you're probably a bit more ignorant. however, if you do play music, then enjoy the rest of your life being a bedroom cover musician and leave music criticism on the rest of us
@marioskaloudis22
@marioskaloudis22 2 жыл бұрын
@@Speed_Metal_Attack i aint suspicious was fire though
@VicRattlehead95
@VicRattlehead95 7 жыл бұрын
All of Dave's recordings are conveniently demos. Whereas all of Kirk's solos have been recorded in a studio. There's a huge difference. Cut the crap guys. We all know you Metallica fan boys are too high and mighty to accept the truth. If you wanna talk on a technical perspective, Dave wins. If you wanna talk on a speed perspective, Dave wins. Dave just eats kirk for breakfast. The sooner you guys accept that, the easier it'll be for everyone.
@heldertiago124
@heldertiago124 6 жыл бұрын
"all of Dave's recording are conveniently demos".... That might be due to the "little" fact that he didn't record an *actual* studio album with them?! *Jeez!* .... But even by listening to the clips here... You can tell that yes, Mustaine solos super technical, pretty crazy and super fast, but Kirks are insanely more musical and well constructed.
@bigc0ck
@bigc0ck 5 жыл бұрын
Hélder Tiago indeed
@acersteel3735
@acersteel3735 4 жыл бұрын
Kirk replicates Dave's solos great. They are clean and precise and note perfect but it's lacking what the Dave recordings have and that's the attitude, the angst, the take no prisoners thought process. Dave's versions are the blueprint and epitomy of what thrash lead work in the 80s cloth was cut from. When I hear Kirk's version they sound nice and ear candy which is not what I'm after. I don't want nice. I want anger, hate and rage in those solos and that's what I hear when Dave plays them.
@Fireglo
@Fireglo 2 жыл бұрын
Dude stfu. Utter cringe comment.
@understas
@understas 15 жыл бұрын
Well, recording on 'No life 'til leather' has much lower quality than 'Kill 'em all'. In fact, you can't hear all the separate notes in some places on the demo tape. You really can't compare them in an objective manner. You should compare 'Death magnetic' and 'Endgame' to get the true picture.
@slash63210
@slash63210 11 жыл бұрын
Dave Mustaine!!
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 16 жыл бұрын
I agree that Dave destroys Kirk. He completly obliterates him. But i still think Kirk is good. But he's nowhere near as good as Mustaine!
@Mrcloc
@Mrcloc 4 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree. There's more meat and accuracy to Kirk's solo's (referring to later stuff as well). Metallica (the most successful (metal) band of all time) wouldn't have hired and kept him if he wasn't.
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is Kirk gave up writing complex solos after and justice just like Lars gave up advancing as a drummer after and justice Ever since the black album Kirk has been wah wah wah
@TheAvd89
@TheAvd89 2 жыл бұрын
Youre so right my man!! Give Dave also the studio to tape his solos and everyone can hear the insane difference between the two
@Sgtvalentini
@Sgtvalentini 2 жыл бұрын
Mechanix solo is impossible
@danielw832
@danielw832 9 жыл бұрын
Dave is faster. Dave is bolder. I would not pay money for any Metallica album after Justice. Risk was not great but still better then load, black, reload, death magnetic. symphony was good but would have been better with the bands audio levels lower, the orchestra was more like back ground for the most part. I have heard full orchestras perform Metallica and it was amazing.
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 3 жыл бұрын
Risk was by far better than load and the load but death magnetic was pretty damn good much heavier 90s Megadeth > 90s Metallica any day
@thrashmetal00
@thrashmetal00 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigtommy9715 but everyone bought Metallica's 80's, 90's and MegaDeth didn't sells didn't come close. So if they were better why doesn't their recors sales or concert shows > than Metallica
@thedude-jb7wx
@thedude-jb7wx 4 жыл бұрын
Now on the old stuff I liked Kirks solos ALOT ALOT doesn't matter who was tighter Kirk wrote good solos meaning good melody which Trumps technical skill with mediocre melody. I never dug the melody aspect of Mustaine but its good thrash
@kitudiaz3460
@kitudiaz3460 Жыл бұрын
For Me Mustaine is a Genius Writing them...but Hammer is better executer.
@jdsv8601
@jdsv8601 6 жыл бұрын
Dave’s solos are wilder, faster but sloppier Kirk’s solos are more melodic and tighter, but not as fast
@alpertugrul5582
@alpertugrul5582 5 жыл бұрын
because kirk doesn't use Dave's picking technique. Playing solos with using Kirk's technique is harder than Dave's technique trust me.
@nomo1970
@nomo1970 5 жыл бұрын
@@alpertugrul5582 i dont think so.. Try out holy wars, hanger 18 then u will understand how hard is mustaine solo
@alpertugrul5582
@alpertugrul5582 5 жыл бұрын
@@nomo1970 i already play em easily... i deal with Michael Angelo Batio solo...
@nomo1970
@nomo1970 5 жыл бұрын
@@alpertugrul5582 Alright name some solo of Wahmet that are harder than mustaine solo?
@alpertugrul5582
@alpertugrul5582 5 жыл бұрын
@@nomo1970 dyers eve
@1Muzition1
@1Muzition1 11 жыл бұрын
Megadeth and Metallica both rule. One thing, I can remember solos that Kirk has played by heart(Battery, One, MOP come to mind). Mustaine not so much. I'm sure Mustaine is better 'technically', but Kirk has had much more of an impact on the masses. I'm not sure what constitutes being better at something something like music, but Kirk has reached many more people at the end of the day. TRUTH BE TOLD.
@randomstuff4762
@randomstuff4762 Жыл бұрын
You can't remember something going that fast. It's not supposed to be memorable as much as it is supposed to be dominating, impressive and imposing. Mainstream prefers something catchy and it makes sense, two different styles for two different audiences.
@Danny-si2ny
@Danny-si2ny 4 жыл бұрын
All im gonna say they r both rlly good gods wish i could play like them combined
@CDAW_45
@CDAW_45 4 жыл бұрын
Just try to play like dave
@odralebazerimar9084
@odralebazerimar9084 2 жыл бұрын
I strive to be as good as the guitarists in Megadeth. Kirk and Dave are cool and all, but their skills aren’t anything crazy like Marty Friedman or Poland and Broderick
@JM00237
@JM00237 Жыл бұрын
@@odralebazerimar9084but Dave and Kirk have written more legendary riffs and solos then all those highly skilled guys combined. They’re not as good but it doesn’t matter.
@odralebazerimar9084
@odralebazerimar9084 Жыл бұрын
@@JM00237 Kirk’s written legendary solos. Idk about Dave lmao. As for riffs. Mustaine has written more legendary riffs than Kirk since James write most Metallica riffs.
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio Жыл бұрын
5:25 kirk solo is much better. Love them both, but kirk has more blue infusion 🙂 4:14
@f150man55
@f150man55 15 жыл бұрын
i love both of these guys
@bellabugs
@bellabugs 6 жыл бұрын
Comparing demos to studio recordings and Dave’s are still better 😂 and thinks about it they are all his solos on kill em all lol and Dave most likely would have improved them for the actual recording if had done it.
@oldmatevb
@oldmatevb 4 жыл бұрын
Yea Cus Kirk had a week to learn them all by ear but ok
@youngtevanced8818
@youngtevanced8818 2 жыл бұрын
Dave and Cliff Burton🔥🔥
@BeyondTheGates87
@BeyondTheGates87 15 жыл бұрын
an advantage dave has over kirk is the ability to execute 1 step bends in tune...
@scottycunningham1413
@scottycunningham1413 Жыл бұрын
You're not wrong
@iLLEquilibrium
@iLLEquilibrium 10 жыл бұрын
dave is way better and will always be megadeth wins
@oscarnotyourbuissines6027
@oscarnotyourbuissines6027 10 жыл бұрын
Fanboy
@krus180
@krus180 7 жыл бұрын
iLLEquilibrium to each to its own
@d1gitaldeath
@d1gitaldeath 4 жыл бұрын
In what world metallica are far bigger than megadeth lol its like compairing michael jackson to fking prince wise up u clown every 1 and there dog knows metallica is bigger and better and megadeth lives in there shadow always has always will hahahahahaha ps i love both but these are facts
@sagvjc2525
@sagvjc2525 4 жыл бұрын
@@d1gitaldeath prince was better than mj. Sounds like you have to wise up..
@d1gitaldeath
@d1gitaldeath 4 жыл бұрын
@@sagvjc2525 lol u know nothing prince was a better musician no doubt but mj is the better artist haha mj is the king of pop while prince was the prince of pop..
@Radean1
@Radean1 15 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, Hammet is nothing today compared to Mustaine.
@mstewart248
@mstewart248 2 жыл бұрын
Dave is faster but Kirk has better note choice and sounds tighter, although it’s hard to say because the entire band in the kill’em all recording just sounded tighter.
@Darkjack-FR
@Darkjack-FR 6 жыл бұрын
Sound to me, Kirk's solos are a little more better. Dave's solos are good, more aggresif, but less worked here. Note : I'm a big fan of Megadeth
@michaelhorn9114
@michaelhorn9114 4 жыл бұрын
Mustaine wins by A LOT !!!
@sylvainduchesne6807
@sylvainduchesne6807 8 жыл бұрын
Kirk solo's had clear and tight notes, Mustaine solo's had tight notes but was sloppy.
@frankpeltier1748
@frankpeltier1748 8 жыл бұрын
Sylvain Duchesne says The pissy little fan .... you Tallica rulzzzz guys, are Fucken idiots
@braedon.lee8610
@braedon.lee8610 6 жыл бұрын
Note also that hammet had time to have clear recordings and focus on the songs
@thepickofdestiny9653
@thepickofdestiny9653 6 жыл бұрын
Ur probably never going to read this but, good job for choosing kirk over dave, my respects
@stevenaustin4591
@stevenaustin4591 Жыл бұрын
Damn dude, for the most part it sounds like Dave is tryin to follow Kirks solo lines and just cant get it right :/
@DougWalker666
@DougWalker666 3 жыл бұрын
So they both kind of play in the same style. It's less about crafting any kind of solo and just stringing blazing fast modes together. In that regard, Dave has a much larger vocabulary. He however has only one gear...which is playing at the absolute peak of his speed. Kirk doesnt have nearly as many tricks in his bag, but hes cleaner and can shift into slower playing without losing any of his tone or power. Mustaines solos are more impressive to listen to because the stamina it takes to maintain that kinda speed is unreal (or cocaine fueled). Hammets are more musical and his notes are far cleaner and sharper. You understand every single thing he does. He uses his pick alot more mustaine does. If anyone is learning guitar or a guitar player wanting to learn more....playing at top speed isnt all that tough once you get the muscle memory down. It's easier to fall into and keep a rhythm when you're going as fast as you can. Its more about conditioning your muscles to be able to do it for 30 seconds at a time.
@variszarins
@variszarins Жыл бұрын
What do you mean when you say Kirk doesn’t have as many tricks? Are you talking about particular techniques or what?
@DougWalker666
@DougWalker666 Жыл бұрын
@@variszarins kirk is pentatonic/blues shape 1 and aeolion mode pretty much every solo he's ever done
@krzysztof4607
@krzysztof4607 Жыл бұрын
I like them both but Kirk smoked Dave on Jump in the Fire outro solo
@m3tafunj
@m3tafunj 11 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Grant played the final solo on the hit the lights demo, not sure about the first two shorter ones, but definitely the last one. He even joined them all on stage recently.
@MegaASMRmetal
@MegaASMRmetal Жыл бұрын
Mustaine WILL MELT UR FACE OFFFFF!!!!!
@seanhanley7777
@seanhanley7777 2 жыл бұрын
Hammett is much better at solos. Not say Mustaine sucks more like too technical too fast to really enjoy the solo where Hammett has a clean melodic thrash feel very hypnotizing
@Canadian_Metalhead
@Canadian_Metalhead 8 жыл бұрын
Kirk is the best at using the Wah pedal and that's about it...
@brendan_rutledge
@brendan_rutledge 5 жыл бұрын
ProJirard the Finishist don’t you mean over using
@TheBigwheels11
@TheBigwheels11 9 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but Kirks solos are tighter..sound quality is better in first few tracks. That's not to say Dave wasn't a pioneer and innovator. Kirk has a cleaner sound. Dave plays faster
@arklo
@arklo 8 жыл бұрын
Because the audio is betyer
@frankpeltier1748
@frankpeltier1748 8 жыл бұрын
TheBigwheels11 sorry But your plastic , Fake, ears ,are broken...... there lady Lulu .... you 'Tallica rulzzz' guys , Are a Fucken Joke in the Metal world
@Johnfranorge
@Johnfranorge 6 жыл бұрын
Demo vs album
@masonsmith3453
@masonsmith3453 6 жыл бұрын
Dave was only on demos no shit the sounds worse.
@phantasmagora6542
@phantasmagora6542 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I think Dave didn't grow into the guitarist he is until Peace Sells. His chops and talent were obviously there from the start, but his solos on the KEA demos as well as Megadeth's poorly-produced debut are little more than chaotic, messy shredding, even if they have an intuitive flow to them. Kirk's interpretations of Dave's solos on KEA are rhythmically simpler yet clearer and more deliberate, which is why he was the perfect replacement for Dave at the time. I do think Dave is a faster and more inventive guitarist, but he definitely took more time to realize his potential.
@martanoconghaile
@martanoconghaile 3 жыл бұрын
Kirk had a short period of time to learn these songs right after Dave was sacked, so he obviously had to copy them note for note. Compare the rest of Metallica's catalogue with Megadeth's... Kirk's solos on Ride the Lightning, Black album etc., to Megadeth at their peak? Dave is fast, but Kirk can be melodic, intelligent AS WELL as fast. I think he got sloppy after they dropped Bob Rock, who ironically (and to his credit) pushed Kirk really hard, Kirk admits as much. Now, Kirk doesn't prepare before he gets into the studio and it really shows.
@zugdawg
@zugdawg 3 ай бұрын
This is why this is the only Metallica album I listen to. Kirk playing at Dave's speed (his version of Dave's solos basically), it was the best.
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 15 жыл бұрын
well in my eyes these are hammetts best solos and still daves are better.
@berke1636
@berke1636 2 жыл бұрын
I love them both but Kirk's solos are way better then Mustaine's for this album.
@seechii
@seechii 2 жыл бұрын
dave was just always good with rythym, but so was james so you don't wanna have to rythyms, it's best he split cause now we have 2 insane bands and not just one
@CrisKRA
@CrisKRA 6 жыл бұрын
Ok here are the facts, during this period of time, Kirk was less sloppy than Dave, therefore I understand why people would prefer Kirk instead of Dave in this video. But Dave got better as they made more records and Kirk became a joke. After AJFA, Kirk solos became shit
@b0gdan491
@b0gdan491 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, his solos on KIMB are quite sloppy, but on Peace Sells, his soloing got cleaner. Good Morning Black Friday is a little sloppy, but I love it.
@Dmena373
@Dmena373 7 жыл бұрын
Their really is no argument, Dave is better and will always be better
@pennywise3381
@pennywise3381 3 жыл бұрын
Kirk's solos to me are sloppy at best, and Dave's hit way harder and more brutal solos. So I would say Dave is clearly better.
@packohub1145
@packohub1145 Жыл бұрын
Better Dave was shit and muddy solo Very messy he's like a play button guitar lol 😂
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 16 жыл бұрын
fair enough if u prefer him. good stuff.! Ijust hate people who know nothing about guitar but are adamant that kirk is better just because they like metallica more!
@keepthrashalive
@keepthrashalive 14 жыл бұрын
lol i didnt need the description during the hit the lights solo with dave, that has megadeth written all over it and i love dave mustaine he is much better than kirk hammett, awesome video
@kiruu3u
@kiruu3u 4 жыл бұрын
comparison: dave mustaine uses chromatic scale and a bit of pentatonic vs kirk hammet that uses a LOT of pentatonic scale
@andyoc
@andyoc 5 жыл бұрын
Hammett sounds far better and his versions of the solos are tighter, Mustaine wrote outlines for these solos only and they're sloppy here, there are outside notes that sound unintentional and his legato gets very messy in places, Kirks solos might be slower but are just better. There's no comparison on hit the lights.
@razoredge6476
@razoredge6476 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Kirk was very tight and more accurate. Sounded better
@531ff
@531ff 5 жыл бұрын
Andy OC because Mustaine’s were demos . Not officially recorded album work . Listen to any bands demos ca what makes it to the albums .
@oldmatevb
@oldmatevb 4 жыл бұрын
b miller yea but Dave made them so they should be less sloppy. KIRK had a week to learn all of Dave’s solos and had make a few new ones. Kirk would of done the solos in one take anyway so your point is in valid
@colinerikstanhouse6385
@colinerikstanhouse6385 Жыл бұрын
It's just a fact that Dave is a superior guitar player . Kirk has to play it slower because he's not as accurate as Dave when he trys to play it at Dave's tempo.
@rockfan7789
@rockfan7789 14 жыл бұрын
just imagine if mustaine and burton were still in metallica and no hammett or truijillio there would be no st anger or load reload or black album oh man that would be awesome
@CameronSpanos
@CameronSpanos 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody can touch Kirk's solos on Kill Em All. Not even Mustaine
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 3 жыл бұрын
Considering they’re not kirks solos yea Dave can touch them
@lzeppelinrocks
@lzeppelinrocks 16 жыл бұрын
I no thats wat I said it was kirk on Lightning Puppets an d justice. That shit my friend is some of the best music ever written on those 3 albums.
@cfrancisco74
@cfrancisco74 14 жыл бұрын
It could be that I have heard the Metallica song a million times over w/ Kirk's solos, but I like Kirk's playing better. They sound like that's the way they should be.. Anything else and they don't sound right. That's not a knock on Dave. I like his playing, and love Megadeth. Dave also has shared the stage and traded licks w/ Chirs Poland, Marty Freidman, Al Patrelli, Glenn Drover, chris Brodrick. He's a Baddass on the guitar.
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 12 жыл бұрын
First of all. Dave's solos are much harder to play. Clearly you don't play guitar. Second of all how difficult something is to play doesn't make you better! There's a lot more to guitar than just technical ability!
@gameboykid1
@gameboykid1 13 жыл бұрын
Dave by a long shot!
@smokedout9
@smokedout9 13 жыл бұрын
Kirk never fell to the trendy shred guitar mentality and wanting to be the best there is and was, he always played from the heart, who else can tackle a variety of guitar playing styles ranging from Trash Metal to more soft Alternative Rock and sound good at it? Not many. Dave is one of my primary influences James being first. So i think both are amazing.
@kikiki4592
@kikiki4592 Жыл бұрын
I guess that is why he went to Joe Satriani to learn how to play guitar, to avoid the schredder trend?
@jakersoncaalim5656
@jakersoncaalim5656 6 жыл бұрын
the different between them is the setup! but if they battle one song in one same setup it would be dave is the best!
@anarchyscoming
@anarchyscoming 15 жыл бұрын
@omnikickflip9000 they do, but that doesnt mean they are not based almost entirely on dave's solos, you can notice that by just listening to them stay metal!
@brendan_rutledge
@brendan_rutledge 5 жыл бұрын
Dave has a better note selection
@TMoody
@TMoody Жыл бұрын
Kirk sounds killer..... Dave sounds like someone at Guitar Center on a Saturday afternoon.
@nickchucky3173
@nickchucky3173 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean the exact opposite?
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 16 жыл бұрын
i actually think dave's raw demo solo's sound better than kirks highly produced ones! and then wen he formed megadeth he just completely blew kirk and metallica out of the water.
@lzeppelinrocks
@lzeppelinrocks 16 жыл бұрын
I think for me Kirk all the way, because I like his style. Now Mustaine is a better shredder but any1 can shred. Both good.
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is reversed bud Kirk shreds Mustaine plays complex
@DowntownTB13
@DowntownTB13 14 жыл бұрын
people stop fighting, they both are great guitarists. some prefer on over the other, dont freak out if they have a different opinion. i like kirk better, but im not saying dave sucks. dave is a great musician, and so is kirk. i like kirk more because he's in my fav band. i like dave because he rights good rythum riffs. i dont like dave as much because he plays fast all the time, and kirk doesn't. please just understand that fighting on youtube wont change anyones mind on who they like, ok???
@k.lalzirsanga8462
@k.lalzirsanga8462 Жыл бұрын
Kirk win by a lot
@Iexecutioner
@Iexecutioner 3 жыл бұрын
Dave is the more competent player but I like Kirk in Metallica. Dave was too ambitious of a musician to stay in Metallica
@bigtommy9715
@bigtommy9715 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly that’s why Dave got to thrive with musicians like Marty and nick who were immensely better than Metallica could have offered him Dave and James are both master rhythm players Megadeth allows Dave to flourish as both
@clashboy1977
@clashboy1977 15 жыл бұрын
no he writes some riffs! but not many! dave wrote more in 1 year in metallica than kirk did in at least 3, possibly 4!
@gulmaster4447
@gulmaster4447 2 жыл бұрын
You cant compare the quality of the demo tape with the finished album
@94Danimal
@94Danimal 15 жыл бұрын
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