David Bentley Hart: Do Translations Distort the New Testament? | The New Testament and Universalism

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Exploring the Quran and the Bible

Exploring the Quran and the Bible

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@Salam99-1
@Salam99-1 Ай бұрын
I'm so glad DBH seems to be doing well post-surgery. Or at least is sat upright and is also able to speak as beautifully as we would expect.
@hadisyed4666
@hadisyed4666 Ай бұрын
As a Muslim, DBH is probably my favorite modern Christian thinker. Not only is he philosophically well read, not only is he updated on the critical literature on the bible, but hes able to deliver all his points in such great prose and rhetoric.
@hadisyed4666
@hadisyed4666 Ай бұрын
Hes also super well read on Islamic philosophy and Mysticism which i appreciate. Hes frequently cites figures I love like Ibn Sina, Mulla Sadra, and Ibn Arabi. He is a great reviver of how our medieval thinkers and traditions understood God, rather than the sad parody of God that most believers hold on today, causing the rise of movements like Atheism. Not only is a great source for philosophy. But also when i find some problem I see in the new testament, I always check with DBH’s translation of the NT. He is a faithful Christian with a nuanced and complex theology, aware of the critical scholarship. His insights are always useful when Im forming my own perspective on such problems.
@dissatisfiedphilosophy
@dissatisfiedphilosophy Ай бұрын
He’s not really updated on the critical literature. He’s stuck in the late 90s-early 00s, which is better than most Christians, but it is a weak spot of his in my view.
@hadisyed4666
@hadisyed4666 Ай бұрын
@ thats pretty fair
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan Ай бұрын
Are you 1 of those 'good' Muslims? Lol why does every Muslim apologist on KZbin hate Israel where obviously imam Tawhidi & Khalil Andani don't count? How do you defend Mohammed's marriages to Aisha Safiyya Rayhana and beheading 600-900 Jews at Banu Qurayza including 10yo Jewish children and women?
@nicbentulan
@nicbentulan Ай бұрын
​@@dissatisfiedphilosophyWhy do you befriend even 'good' Muslims? Lol why does every Muslim apologist on KZbin hate Israel where obviously imam Tawhidi & Khalil Andani don't count? How don't you condemn Mohammed's marriages to Aisha Safiyya Rayhana and beheading 600-900 Jews at Banu Qurayza including 10yo Jewish children and women?
@mcosu1
@mcosu1 Ай бұрын
This was a beautiful interview. I wish it was twice as long
@jericosha2842
@jericosha2842 Ай бұрын
Thanks for having him on. His books are incredible.
@JimKanaris
@JimKanaris Ай бұрын
Good to see DBH virtually out and about doing his valuable thing.
@s2a1ha1j2a
@s2a1ha1j2a 12 күн бұрын
Blessings Gabriel! Thank you so much for having DBH on and for your work. I'll be sharing this.
@andrewx3y8c
@andrewx3y8c Ай бұрын
I really like ‘cosmos’ and feel the wider implications… much better than ‘world’ or ‘universe’
@jason666king
@jason666king Ай бұрын
This guy is solid. You should have him back on, Gabriel.
@anthonymccarthy4164
@anthonymccarthy4164 Ай бұрын
It's fitting that the New Testament isn't a literary masterpiece, it's a point of departure for a relationship with the glorified Lord. It's only a prelude.
@harrischoudhary
@harrischoudhary Ай бұрын
Thank you Dr. Reynolds
@sidneysentell2510
@sidneysentell2510 Ай бұрын
Thank you Drs. Hart and Reynolds.
@christopherconey732
@christopherconey732 Ай бұрын
One reason to be careful with strictly literal interpretations is that the word 'literal' itself is metaphorical.
@lankstephens6374
@lankstephens6374 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for your words here, David. I've ordered your new book. (By the way, the audio quality of your voice here is the best I've ever heard it, so please continue with whatever microphone or setup you used here, despite the connection problem momentarily near the end.)
@AdventusQ
@AdventusQ Ай бұрын
Love DBH's work!
@jasonegeland1446
@jasonegeland1446 Ай бұрын
Nice interview. Glad David is doing well. Enjoyed!
@Roman-Pregolin
@Roman-Pregolin Ай бұрын
Epic collab
@Roman-Pregolin
@Roman-Pregolin Ай бұрын
Making an uncial handwritten agpeya companion to 'A Psalter for Prayer' based on Hart's NT.
@robmckay5421
@robmckay5421 Ай бұрын
DBH has provided us with a helpful NT translation.
@RudyCarrera
@RudyCarrera 3 сағат бұрын
DBH looks better these days. His mind is as sharp as ever.
@bayreuth79
@bayreuth79 Ай бұрын
I’m so pleased, Gabriel, that you interviewed Hart. Thanks, Michael L
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 Ай бұрын
One question you being a christian agree that the trinity is biblically, historically and most important logically is false then you a line with jews & muslims because we also believe that the trinity is false not only that we also don't believe in these post biblical doctrines such as original sin, PSA atonement, hell which we all know by history were never actually taught by the early church Then i would like to know from you that what is the christian faith ( christianity ) all about because as muslims we not only believe in jesus and his apostles we also believe in his ministry and we believe it is successful which is the Gospel his revelation to the jews and humanity part of our faith is to also believe in the books prior the quran which is the bible I always say that if we removed these doctrines such as the trinity, PSA atonement, original sin & hell from christianity which we know from history were never taught by the early church then christianity make more sense and do be doing much better in building bridges
@alem8100
@alem8100 Ай бұрын
Rare guest
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 Ай бұрын
How can you compare the Hebrew with the greek language.
@christianuniversalist
@christianuniversalist 29 күн бұрын
DBH’s NT translation is my go-to.
@TomTimes5
@TomTimes5 28 күн бұрын
Do a video about the Gulistan.
@kaidoloveboat1591
@kaidoloveboat1591 Ай бұрын
He almost looks like Walter White, I hope his health improves
@Dushan-o8w
@Dushan-o8w Ай бұрын
So Paul's Greek is kinda crude ? When I took koine Greek at University. I was told his Greek was very sophisticated 🤔
@christianuniversalist
@christianuniversalist 28 күн бұрын
As in Paul’s sentence structures are crudely written, it has nothing to do with Greek’s depth of meaning
@gustingdis
@gustingdis Ай бұрын
Yes! It does invert the protestant critique of papal infallibly, or the infalubility of tradition. We protestants have created our own dogma and we don't let the bible get in the way of our dogma.
@christopherconey732
@christopherconey732 Ай бұрын
I wish you well Professor Hart. Most of those with interest in your work probably know you have been very ill so it's great you are back to more or less public speaking.
@carlsonloggie
@carlsonloggie 26 күн бұрын
Why is the interviewers sound so boomy?
@ConsideringPhlebas
@ConsideringPhlebas Ай бұрын
Wait, so, he thinks the resurrection of the dead is "silly" but is also a Christian?
@bman5257
@bman5257 Ай бұрын
Where does he say the resurrection of the dead is silly?
@bman5257
@bman5257 Ай бұрын
If you’re referring to 23:45 I’m afraid you were not listening well enough, he was critiquing Thomist eschatology on the will and desire not the resurrection.
@franciscafazzo3460
@franciscafazzo3460 Ай бұрын
he claims orthodoxy?
@bman5257
@bman5257 Ай бұрын
He’s an Eastern Orthodox Christian.
@阳明子
@阳明子 Ай бұрын
He is an Orthodox Christian. Dr. Hart's written work is incredibly influenced by the Church Fathers and the Neoplatonic strand of Christian thought more generally.
@moesypittounikos
@moesypittounikos Ай бұрын
I wonder where the apocalypse of Peter came from? It is a very early text and has a vision of hell and torment.
@christianuniversalist
@christianuniversalist 28 күн бұрын
From my own personal research I think it was probably written somewhere between 135-150 AD in Rome. The authors of the Muratorian fragment express some hesitation on the work, saying that some authorities would not have it read in church.
@omarDSD4
@omarDSD4 Ай бұрын
Paul presented his own gospel not the gospel of Jesus. Paul and Jesus they contradict many times. Paul is the true founder of Christianity we have today. If you go to a public university today and you choose to study New Testament history they give you a course in Plato and Greek philosophy. The gospel of John for example and the idea of Logos is pure Greek thought. Philo of Alexandria a greek-jew had a very high influence on the writers of the gospel of John and on the making of Orhodox Christianity as well. You have no idea that the church in Rome murdered and killed all those who did not follow his version of Christianity. The churches in Greece in 2nd century were all Marcionites and not proto-orthodox and they were invaded by letters from Rome threatening them that if they don't convert to the "right" and "official" Christianity they would suffer with their own lives. Many "Christian" groups rejected Paul's teachings and authority and indeed only Paul calls himself "apostle". Why? Because he wanted the authority to shape the narrative of Christianity. He distorted the teachings of Jesus and made a religion on his own. If you read the NT is full of Greek Philosophy. Examples: "Evil communications corrupt good manners" 1Cor 15:33 quoted from Thais a work written by Menader a greek writer from 3rd BC Paul in Acts 17 in his defense in the aereopagus quoted a lot Seneca,Aratus,Aristole and so forth. Paul knew a lot of Greek philosophy. I am convicted that he knew a lot of Mithraism dogmas too since he was from Tarsus the most important city of Mithras. He incorporated some of those dogmas into his version of Christianity. Constantine finished his work. “Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize?" 1 Cor 9:24 a quotation from Plato. "But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.” Rom. 7:22-23 another quote from Plato "For necessity is laid upon me ; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!” 1Cor. 9:16 another Plato's quote. There are thousand more I just gave some examples Christianity is based in pure Greek philosophy. The Christians is so far indoctrinated that they can't see the truth.They so afraid to use there brains to think for themselves.
@mattschneider78
@mattschneider78 Ай бұрын
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@1otterclan
@1otterclan Ай бұрын
And?
@1otterclan
@1otterclan Ай бұрын
What’s the problem with this?
@MuyiwaMonehin
@MuyiwaMonehin 29 күн бұрын
If this were the case, I wonder why Greek philosophy and modern philosophy are sometimes antithetical to Christianity, especially on the Resurrection (which was a sticking point in Acts 17). By the way, you seem to have missed where Paul critiqued Greek philosophical and wider religious traditions, especially in Acts 17, which you referenced. Nearly a decade ago, I said this to a friend. He didn't get it then; don't think he gets it yet. I hope you can get it: The mere use of a term, already well used in one tradition, doesn't mean you subscribe to all the ideologies of that tradition. We can't always invent new words to say what we mean to say. Unlike what you try to do here, Paul believed there are wisdom nuggets to be found and affirmed in other traditions, but all to be taken captive for Christ. Paul clearly was not proto-Marcionite, evinced by his numerous quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures and that he believed Israel's God [is the One who] fulfilled his promises in Christ Jesus. Seems you are the one presenting your [mis]understanding of Paul.
@ethanmulvihill7177
@ethanmulvihill7177 24 күн бұрын
Gospel of John is not pure greek thought. The Logos becoming a man would be heresy to a greek
@ToursPoitiers732
@ToursPoitiers732 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for that beautiful interview. I would love to see IP and DBH interarcting.
@omarDSD4
@omarDSD4 Ай бұрын
Christians bow to the word of Paul, they treat his word above the word of God, You either listen to God or a man-made religion ..chose wisely.
@Alekhandro21
@Alekhandro21 Ай бұрын
It's boring to discuss the Bible. Please focus on the Quran. It is an interesting book and very rich in new subjects.
@stls800
@stls800 29 күн бұрын
The bible is literally a much more interesting book. Qur'an is badly written, repetitive and primitive
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