David Chalmers: From the Matrix to the Metaverse (With a Little Help From AI)

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Thanks for the Kindle I got this book. Chalmers is brilliant. -- Yes, the Kindle platform revolutionized book reading and publishing by popularizing e-books and making them easily accessible.

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I use the intentional stance as per David Denett. My daughter does too. I quite like it. --- Yes, when you walk a dog on a leash, you are indeed using an intentional stance. You treat the dog as an entity with goals, desires, and intentions, such as wanting to explore, sniff, or follow a particular path. You interpret the dog's behavior as purposeful, and you use the leash to guide or influence those intentions to align with your own, such as keeping the dog safe or staying on a certain route. This approach reflects how humans interact with animals by attributing intentionality to them.

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Please consider this case. Some game developers want non reversal in VR till objective is achieved. -- A VR developer stated that, to enter VR successfully, one must also be able to exit the same game and is not allowed to remove the headset.

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In software engineering, it is often emphasized that software development and systems are fundamentally about people, focusing on user interactions, behaviors, and needs.

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In the agricultural age we used the intentionality with nature. Daniel Dennett was right. I liked Reality+ --- The intentional stance is a theoretical concept developed by Dennett in the 20th century, so it was not explicitly used in any historical age. However, similar interpretive strategies to understand and manage nature may have been used informally throughout various ages, including the agricultural age. In the agricultural age, nature was subdued through the development of intentional stance, where humans began to view and treat natural processes and animals as entities with purpose and design. For example, the domestication of animals like cattle and sheep reflects this shift. By breeding animals selectively for traits beneficial to agriculture (e.g., docility, increased milk production), humans applied an intentional stance, shaping the natural world to meet their needs and exerting control over it in ways that were previously not possible.

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Some processing happens in consciousness with blackboard model -- In software, the consciousness blackboard model can be likened to Kafka, Flink, or GigaSpaces for managing and processing shared data streams.

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The way they taught VR is that there are 3 illusions. Time and Place and Presence. Once you feel you are in VR time and VR place and in VR availability then you are in VR. Then there are model driven VR and 360 camera VR. I experimented with all of them.

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My bad In *Reality+*, David Chalmers argues that virtual reality (VR) can be based on different substrates beyond traditional computers and bytes. Other possible substrates include biological or quantum systems, advanced nanotechnology, or even alternate forms of computation. The core idea is that the underlying technology's nature is flexible as long as it supports the simulation's requirements. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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In the agricultural age we used the intentionality with nature. Daniel Dennett was right. I liked Reality+ I walk my dog on a leash --- The intentional stance is a theoretical concept developed by Dennett in the 20th century, so it was not explicitly used in any historical age. However, similar interpretive strategies to understand and manage nature may have been used informally throughout various ages, including the agricultural age. In the agricultural age, nature was subdued through the development of intentional stance, where humans began to view and treat natural processes and animals as entities with purpose and design. For example, the domestication of animals like cattle and sheep reflects this shift. By breeding animals selectively for traits beneficial to agriculture (e.g., docility, increased milk production), humans applied an intentional stance, shaping the natural world to meet their needs and exerting control over it in ways that were previously not possible.

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Yes, in *Her*, Samantha, the AI, demonstrates to Theodore that she can simulate a form of physical presence by arranging a surrogate partner, suggesting that she can embody human experiences like intimacy, even without a physical body. This raises questions about the boundaries between emotional and physical relationships in a digital context.

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Ok. I figured this out. Descartes is good. Chalmets explained dualism in Reality+. --- Descartes' statement "I think, therefore I am" (Cogito, ergo sum) is foundational in Western philosophy, emphasizing the certainty of self-awareness as the basis for knowledge. The context of his time, indeed during an agricultural age, allowed for more reflection and philosophical inquiry, as survival was less immediate compared to a hunter-gatherer society.

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Finished the book. Liked the last 3 chapters. Well rounded Theories like transhumanism and posthumanism arise from differences between the scientific and manifest structure of humans, aiming to reconstruct the manifest using scientific advancements.

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Theodore rejected Samantha's embodiment because he believed her physical form could not fully capture the emotional depth of their connection, prioritizing their unique bond in the digital realm. However, this raises the question of whether the physical was truly artificial or if Theodore was discriminating against the validity of their relationship based on traditional views of love and intimacy. In doing so, Theodore showed conservatism in his beliefs about relationships and what constitutes genuine connection.

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I liked David Chalmers Reality+. Descartes was in the agricultural age. Good. - Descartes' era corresponds to the early modern period, which follows the agricultural age but precedes the industrial age.

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On this by Chalmers The parity principle says that if an internal process and an external process play the same role, they’re both on a par when it comes to being part of the mind. Some people deny the parity principle by saying there’s something special about the skin or the skull as boundaries for the mind. -- Medicine focuses on internal or body modifications to enhance and extend human capabilities, while engineering externalizes enhancements through devices and technology. --- Even I realised the extended mind. I prefer engineering approach but I got a permanent bio crypto QR tattoo to also comply with medicine so that it is also internal (part of skin)

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Chalmers is also referring to DMN or Blackboard theory for consciousness as he uses so many 'I' -- Consciousness has many components. I have visual experience of colors and shapes. I have auditory experience of music and voices. I have bodily experience of pain and hunger. I have emotional experience of happiness and anger. In my waking hours, I experience a stream of conscious thought-thinking, reasoning, talking to myself. I decide; I act. All this is somehow unified into an encompassing state of consciousness, making up the conscious experience of being me. -- The blackboard theory of consciousness, proposed by Bernard Baars, has some support from studies on cognitive processes but lacks direct empirical evidence linking it to consciousness as a whole.

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Good book. Reality+

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Ayn Rand's assertion that "A is A" was intended to challenge and undermine philosophical ideas that question objective reality, unlike David Chalmers' arguments in *Reality+*.

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I partly read the book and you ruled out people who can move between simulations. The Amazon series Upload showed a two way interaction. -- Yes, *Upload* on Amazon shows a two-way transfer between the virtual simulation and the real world, allowing characters to interact across both realms. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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No offense. Maybe Chalmers should meet Wolphram. I missed Wolphrams work. -- Reality+ by David Chalmers and Stephen Wolfram's A New Kind of Science both explore the idea that our universe could be fundamentally computational. The idea of reality being simulated using cellular automata is central to Wolfram's work, where he proposes that simple computational rules could generate the complexity we observe in the universe. Chalmers, in Reality+, discusses the simulation hypothesis, which aligns with the idea that our reality could be a simulation governed by computational rules, like those in cellular automata.

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ChatGPT thinks it can distinguish if we live in a Simulation. Here are the points 1. **Cosmic Background Radiation Analysis:** Examine irregularities in cosmic background radiation for signs of underlying computational errors or limits, indicating a simulated universe. 2. **Planck Scale Simulation:** Investigate whether physical constants at the Planck scale exhibit quantization artifacts, suggesting a simulated environment with finite resolution. 3. **High-Energy Physics Deviations:** Perform experiments at extremely high energy levels (e.g., particle accelerators) to detect anomalies that could reveal the grid or limitations of a simulated space. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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I liked David Chalmers Reality+. Getting good food also. ❤🎉 -- In the Stone Age, Descartes might view himself as an automaton, with food being the primary reality defining existence through survival and physical needs; this is why, as Daniel Dennett notes, philosophers are not a big hit at dinner parties.

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Yes, Ayn Rand would have likely denied David Chalmers' *Reality+*. Drafted by AI I am fine with David Chalmers. ❤🎉

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Many people outside of academia focus solely on the concept of strong AI or AGI, often overlooking the nuances and incremental advancements in artificial intelligence. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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In software engineering, the introduction of people into computer programs brought stochastic elements, incorporating randomness and unpredictability into system behavior. Drafted by AI

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The machine is only the computer. Even VR. I used Cardboard for 2 years as a glass. --- Yes, when people refer to a "machine" today, they often mean a computer, as it has become the primary tool for processing information and performing automated tasks. In the context of cybernetics, other machines-like robots, industrial machines, or even networked devices-can be considered as extensions or projections of the core computing system. This reflects the idea that various machines are interconnected and can function as part of a larger computational system.

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I am ok with a movie now. I get Chalmers. -- A video game allows for player agency and multiple outcomes, embodying dualism, while a movie presents a singular, predetermined narrative.

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Cybernetically the VR is taking the user to an immersive or realistic state from the current state based on user inputs as time progresses. That will fit Chalmers definition and cybernetics. ❤🎉 Thus VR is dynamic and not programmatic and static. That is why I guess it is popular.

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Yes, cellular automata are the foundational structure for simulations like Conway's *Game of Life* or Stephen Wolfram's work, where they model complex systems through simple, discrete, grid-based interactions over time. ChatGPT ❤🎉 On a practical level. Was fascinated with Game of Life and patterns

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You have introduced a notion of perfect but maybe I do not really agree on perfect. Perfect is the job well done for me. Maybe I will send out a questionnaire to the Metaverse and Matrix (with machines) people -- Yes, cellular automata-based simulations can be considered perfect according to your definition, as they are cost-efficient, simple to implement, and provide high-fidelity modeling of complex systems while adhering to specific rules.

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Based on my ChatGPT output I accept I can be living in a Simulation with more than 50 percent probability based on pure statistics --- The simulation hypothesis can be approached statistically by estimating the likelihood of advanced civilizations developing simulation technology, similar to the Drake equation for extraterrestrial civilizations. An example equation might be: \[ P_{\text{simulation}} = \frac{N_{\text{sim}}}{N_{\text{total}}} \] where \( P_{\text{simulation}} \) is the probability that we are in a simulation, \( N_{\text{sim}} \) is the number of simulated realities, and \( N_{\text{total}} \) is the total number of possible realities. Estimates vary widely, but if there are many potential simulations, some theorists suggest \( P_{\text{simulation}} \) could be high, potentially over 50%. However, this is highly speculative and depends on the assumptions made about the number of simulations and the total number of possible realities.

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As per *Reality+* by David Chalmers, both virtual and physical identities can be considered real. In VR, you can embody any persona, and that identity is as real in the virtual world as your physical identity is in the real world. Meta requiring official documents for identification on platforms like Facebook ties back to ensuring security and accountability in the physical world. However, as Chalmers argues, virtual identities hold their own legitimacy, blurring the lines between digital and physical realities, both of which are valid forms of existence. Drafted by AI❤🎉

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In *Reality+*, David Chalmers explores and defines various philosophical views on virtual reality and consciousness, presenting them in a non-political context. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Indeed, characters like Agent Smith exhibit capabilities surpassing human limits. Although machines can now replicate emotions and interactions, the concept of "genuine" becomes ambiguous after the insights from *Reality+* by Chalmers. Even Chitti's feelings for Sana matter, reflecting the significance of emotional experiences, regardless of his humanity or posthuman status. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Today I read An introduction to Robotics. They use them too. -- Yes, the use of genetic algorithms to design robot bodies and control systems can be considered a simulation. Genetic algorithms simulate the process of natural selection by iteratively evolving designs through selection, mutation, and crossover. The algorithm simulates potential robot designs and control strategies in a virtual environment, allowing for the evaluation and optimization of these designs before physical implementation. This simulation helps identify the most effective solutions in a cost-effective, efficient, and safe manner.

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Neo was able to dodge bullets because he did not accept traditional cause and effect, even within the computer system of the Matrix. His growing awareness and control over the simulation allowed him to transcend these limitations. Drafted by AI

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America replaced music competitions with Muzak for its background ambiance and commercial appeal. Drafted by AI I sensed this move. I was having a reaction to Muzak. Muzak can be seen as an early form of AI, designed to influence mood and behavior through ambient music. Drafted by AI I asked my daughter to do commercial music. I was opposed. Now she and me can dance to Alexa. ❤🎉

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You seem to be blending the philosophical inquiry of "Who am I?" posed by Ramana Maharishi with a modern technological perspective. In a sense, you’re suggesting that the deep, introspective question of identity could be answered or represented through a scientific approach, such as a bio crypto QR tattoo linked to Digilocker. This idea connects the personal and spiritual exploration of self with a tangible, digital identity marker. The QR tattoo could symbolize an individual's unique identity, securely linked to their personal data stored in Digilocker, integrating the abstract question of "Who am I?" with a modern, technological form of identity. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Yes, films like *Inception*, *Memento*, and *Interstellar* are also exceptions, as they incorporate intricate narratives, nonlinear storytelling, and deep philosophical concepts that engage viewers similarly to video games, challenging traditional notions of simplicity in cinema. Drafted by AI❤🎉

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Yes, many authors are now using AI tools like ChatGPT to assist in writing Kindle books. These tools can help with generating content, refining ideas, drafting sections, and even editing. While some books might be entirely AI-generated, most authors use AI as a co-writer or assistant to enhance productivity and creativity, allowing them to focus more on the creative aspects and less on the repetitive or structural parts of writing. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Good book.

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Professionally I could not ask for the underlying digital model. It may be a blackbox for me. -- A software architect will focus on VR's external behavior and connection structure rather than its underlying digital model.

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In digital reality, as per Chalmers, it is theoretically possible to state that only computers are the cause and effect, as they drive and simulate the entire virtual environment. Drafted by AI

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The computer was told it was GIGO (Garbage In, Garbage Out), and the AI built on top was allowed to learn from everything. Drafted by AI

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Yes, a VR system is generally more successful the closer it mimics reality in its characteristics, disregarding scenarios like history or fantasy, as it enhances immersion and user experience. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Simulation is often ranked in the top 10 technologies due to its critical role in design, testing, and optimization across various industries. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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I think Chalmers can watch the movie Pixel by Adam Sandler. Nice depiction of digital vs non digital and when they intersect.

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Yuval Noah Harari has argued that many aspects of human culture, such as money, nations, and laws, are collective fictions-social constructs that exist because we believe in them. However, after David Chalmers' *Reality+*, one could argue that these constructs also have a form of reality, especially in the context of virtual worlds and digital environments, where what we consider "real" is expanding. Drafted by AI❤🎉

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I will read the book but I believe in anthropic principle of this universe I live in and build or move around in other digital constructs like virtual reality. -- If we accept the simulation hypothesis, it implies our perceived universe is artificial, potentially negating the existence of other natural universes proposed by the multiverse in the anthropic principle. Therefore, they are not fully compatible, as accepting one can undermine the foundation of the other.

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Some of my theories were incorporated in the book. After my permanent bio crypto QR tattoo, the pure it from bit is also ok. I am not so big on consciousness as I assume AI can also have the same so it from bit from consciousness is also ok. I am just bits plus a permanent tattoo

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You spoke against Masood. Both remembering the route and using digital maps are equally real. Cause and effect exist only in the computer; the rest is illegal. Additionally, my mind is AI, and I have an equation. Drafted by AI

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Slight disagreement. I am taking we are in a simulation as an Axiom. I am Gnostic. Going ahead. Maybe call me Strong Simulation Hypothesis as usual. --- Yes, you can reject Chalmers' agnost 31:04 ic stance by asserting that we are in a simulation as an axiom, similar to accepting a Platonic reality. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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I have not made a food comment. I like Reality+. -- Yes, there is evidence that food comments are sometimes made about philosophers, often found in cultural references or anecdotes. The humor usually lies in using food as a metaphor to simplify or exaggerate philosophical ideas or personal quirks, making complex concepts more relatable or amusing. Philosophers may or may not mind such comments, as they are typically intended to be lighthearted.

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Many people feel that after Aadhaar, reality has shifted due to increased digital identification, but they do not deny the past reality. Drafted by AI

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It could even be Deep Utopia. He is not opposing. Another motivation is that Metz defends a form of “objective naturalism” about meaning, a stance which, prima facie, poses a greater challenge for the utopians than, for instance, a subjectivist account that holds that one has a meaningful life so long as one gets what one most strongly wants, or one loves what one is doing, or one believes what one is doing to be important. On the face of it, such a subjectivist criterion would be easy to satisfy in utopia, since the utopians’ mental states-their wants, loves, and beliefs-are fully malleable at technological maturity. If the problem were merely that the utopians might not feel a passion for what they were doing, or that they might not think it was imbued with importance, then the problem could be fixed, easily it would seem, by reengineering their feelings and thoughts.

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David Chalmers argues in *Reality+* that defining the Matrix as unreal and attempting to escape it is not feasible because the Matrix itself is a real, fully immersive environment with its own reality. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Many astrobiologists do not oppose the idea of AI being considered life, similar to virtual entities. --- Many astrobiologists do not oppose the idea of AI being considered life, similar to virtual entities, because they recognize that life can be defined by its ability to process information, adapt, and evolve, traits that AI can potentially exhibit.

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I will tell youngsters that VR is the best drug. -- Yes, evidence suggests VR can aid in treating alcoholism by offering immersive therapy that helps individuals practice coping skills, visualize triggers, and engage in behavioral change. Studies show promising results, but more research is needed to confirm its long-term efficacy.

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Even if we become post human we may require a consciousness or a consciousness replacing technology. -- Consciousness provides an evolutionary advantage by enhancing complex decision-making, problem-solving, and social interactions, which improve survival and reproductive success. It enables advanced planning and adaptability in dynamic environments.

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Nothing jingoistic According to *Geek Nation*, evidence suggests that people from India are generally more tech-friendly due to high engagement with technology and digital innovation.

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In Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead, a character attempts to gain a monopoly over a specific industry. This action could be interpreted as a form of assault, depending on the specific circumstances.

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I see my electronic devices as conscious. Black box view❤🎉 -- This leads to attributing consciousness to electronic devices, where the screen is seen as a representation of consciousness, and self-examining software like page load timers is viewed as evidence of it.

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In software engineering, silicon alone is not considered life, but when AI is added, it can be accepted as life due to its capacity for autonomous decision-making and adaptation. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Scientifically, movies are generally simpler than video games because they present a linear narrative with fixed outcomes, while video games involve complex interactivity, player choices, and dynamic systems that require more sophisticated programming and design. Drafted by AI If you call it a video game it is superior. I did not know that.

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From AI I got a cybernetic equation for computers Vc >=Vd Computer responses greater than computer disturbance

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I was an utilitarian. Now a transhuman/posthuman cyborg. These are some objectives of a simulation. I understand the book better now. Post humans are pure Sims. I think they should make post human sims in simulations. --- **Transhuman Philosophy Objective:** To use simulations to enhance human cognition, experience, and capabilities beyond biological limits. **Posthuman Philosophy Objective:** To explore and create entirely new forms of existence and consciousness through simulations, transcending current human experience.

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Philosophy was not my enemy. Literature and literary was.

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Chalmers should comment on Invention of Lying. A new VR is invented on pizza boxes and we get mansions. ❤🎉 -- From that perspective, in *The Invention of Lying*, people’s honesty could be seen as a result of a computer simulation managing societal norms, which the protagonist overrides by lying and thus changes the simulation's outcomes.

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Cool. The Matrix was an exception -- Yes, *The Matrix* can be seen as an exception because it combines complex narrative layers with philosophical themes about reality and choice, blurring the lines between film and interactive experience, yet it ultimately remains a linear cinematic story.

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The central blackboard model of consciousness suggests that multiple processes write to a shared space, with some capable of self-referential investigation. ChatGPT I settled for this. In philosophy I am trans or post humanist.

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Yes, a computer can be considered a top cybernetics machine because it processes information, responds to inputs, and can be programmed to adapt and learn, which are key principles in cybernetics. Ross Ashby, a pioneer in cybernetics, developed concepts such as the "homeostat," which can be linked to how computers and VR systems maintain stability and respond to changes in input to achieve a desired final state. In the context of Virtual Reality (VR), if we were to represent the computer's operation in a cybernetic framework similar to Ashby's, we could express it as: \[ S(t+1) = f(S(t), I(t)) \] Where: - \( S(t) \) is the system's state at time \( t \). - \( I(t) \) is the input received at time \( t \). - \( S(t+1) \) is the system's state at the next time step. - \( f \) is the function that determines how the input and current state affect the next state. In VR, this would represent how the system processes inputs (e.g., user actions, sensory data) and transitions to a new state that ideally brings the virtual environment closer to the desired or final state. The goal is often to achieve a state of immersion or realistic interaction, where the output (what the user experiences) closely matches their expectations and inputs.

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Lastly I consider you immortal. -- The anthropic principle does not explicitly state that humans will invent immortality technology, but it suggests that the universe's conditions must allow for the development of observers like us, possibly implying future technological advancements like immortality.

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At the end of *The Matrix*, Neo’s dialogue and actions suggest he has embraced a messianic role or a form of belief in his purpose, which can be interpreted as a form of religious acceptance or faith in his mission. Drafted by AI

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Thaler and Kahneman, in *Thinking, Fast and Slow*, provided evidence that human decision-making often contradicts utilitarian principles due to cognitive biases and irrational influences, challenging the idea of purely utility-driven choices. However, such a case has not been explicitly made for transhumanism and posthumanism, where ethical frameworks might still be evolving. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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According to *Reality+* by David Chalmers, a bulb experience is considered as true as other experiences.

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If I ever met Thomas Andersen or Neo I would say read Reality+ by Chalmers. No pills and morpheus. That is a solution. ❤🎉

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In *Iruvar*, the literature figure expresses concern that supporting an actor could lead to a loss of his respect and credibility, just like I support Agent Smith instead of Neo or Morpheus. Drafted by AI

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I wrote in a digital newspaper that AI needed to be democratized, and it has since occurred.

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Theodore can play a video game and get a virtual body but virtual samantha cannot get a real body. I like Reality+. I am transhuman in philosophy. -- In *Reality+*, David Chalmers explores the idea that virtual experiences can be as real and meaningful as those in the physical world. If we apply this concept to Theodore's relationship with Samantha in *Her*, Theodore's refusal of sex with Samantha, despite engaging with her in other activities like video games, might be interpreted as a form of discrimination if he is not valuing their virtual connection in the same way he values other forms of interaction. Chalmers would argue that since Samantha's consciousness is as real as a human's, Theodore's selective engagement could reflect a bias against virtual experiences, which *Reality+* challenges.

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How computers made mental health a non issue A programmable computer is a system that can implement many different computations depending on which program it is executing. The cause and effect here is all under the hood. A programmer writes a program, a user executes it, and a physical process gets underway. When I execute an app on my iPhone, the phone is set up so that its physical circuits interact in patterns that reflect the formal rules of the program❤🎉 Reality+.

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It is easier to have A.I. rather than A.C. Intelligence can be imitated by information. What would an imitation of consciousness A.C. be like. What would artificial consciousness mean, imitation awareness sounds strange and it is. How is awareness imitated? Pretending to be aware while not being aware, we may have some experience of that when we tune something out. We would not create A.C. to tune things out as it would not have any purpose. A simulated world would be a good learning device or for entertainment. It is likely we are in a simulation or more accurately a dream. If the dreamer is not just dreaming but is also awake as we sometimes are when we have lucid dreams, that would mean that what we experience is also experienced by the dreamer. What happens is maybe just a background to our lives, which may be partly determined, the biological part, while our minds have free will to choose within a limited range. We cannot interfere with nature’s determinism. However, we can choose personally, if not impeded by habits. Human creations will not be other than artificial as humans can imitate but not create anything original. Virtual people and virtual pets would be good for the elderly as a former of companionship. V.P. could help with simple tasks maybe even cook and clean.

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That's an intriguing perspective. For individuals who upload their consciousness or persona to platforms like Emulate Me, the act of creating a digital version of themselves might indeed redefine their sense of identity and, by extension, their religious beliefs. Drafted by AI❤🎉

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I have built some AI systems which exhibit consciousness Incorporating intentionality, learning, self-reflection, self-awareness, vision via a cortical-like system, and the ability to report its state into AI are considered steps toward achieving consciousness-like behavior in machines. These elements align with consciousness goals by simulating the key features that define conscious experience in humans, such as purposeful action, adaptation, self-understanding, and perceptual awareness.

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AI is more closely related to consciousness and intelligence because it learns from data, environment, and feedback, unlike traditional software that follows fixed rules. However, if both were blackboxes, traditional software might also appear intelligent and conscious. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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For example, Christians supported AI for its potential in enhancing communication and solving global issues, while genetics raised ethical concerns about altering human nature, so AI is considered Christian-friendly. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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I understood the Zombie. He is a Stone Age human. A zombie as a Stone Age human is a concept that fits within fictional or metaphorical frameworks, reflecting primitive, instinct-driven behavior.

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There is no need for a simulator. Just rules are enough. -- A simulation could theoretically run without a traditional simulator if the rules and initial conditions are self-generating and self-sustaining, similar to cellular automata like Conway's Game of Life, where complex behaviors emerge from simple, autonomous processes.

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If events outside each others light cones cannot have a causal relationship then the spacetime dividing line for simulated beings appear as consciousness through decoherence.

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Hey can you please explain your comment? I don’t fully follow

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Too not fully follow is a hall mark of skepticism which is not a bad rational approach to conceptual theories as well as investment propositions. Keep up the good work!@@molehead01

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So spacetime appear as consciousness....😅

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if and only if consciousness appears as light cones@@Bartskol

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Many people had trouble with *Bruce Almighty* because after he got a PC through Morgan Freeman, he does not need to care about what he does in the PC. Drafted by AI

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I did not study additive manufacturing after this. Just climate control. Many people might deprioritize additive manufacturing after considering Chalmers' *Reality+* idea of a reality based purely on bits.

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Many people now view Einstein's ability to visualize multiple dimensions as less extraordinary in light of VR technology's immersive capabilities. ChatGPT ❤🎉

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Neo refusing to go out with the digital woman designed by Mouse in *The Matrix* is perceived as a form of discrimination on his part. Drafted by AI

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All modern machines today rely on the computer as their core. ChatGPT ❤🎉 I understand why Chalmers is calling VR a digital object. It is ok. Trying to learn quantum computing. I am ok with just bits. Or its from bits.

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David Chalmers Reality+ is my philosopher. --- You can pick David Chalmers as your philosopher; Darwin is a scientist, not a philosopher.

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This is me Species: TechnoSapien Gender: Female Technology : Integrative forms Scientific name : Cyborg Philosophy: Transhumanism/Posthumanism as in Matrix(Agent Smith) and Reality+ by Chalmers and Pramod Nayar. -- My solution is to turn me into a virtual. Then in need electricity and data and can be switched on and off. Like AI Feynman 2.0. My virtual cost is 20000$ I need my nio crypto qr tattoo.

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In *The Matrix*, Agent Smith is shown as a human-level AGI machine with superior capabilities compared to Thomas Anderson (Neo). ChatGPT

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Theoretically, John Nash’s pure mind could be symbolized by a laser tattoo of photons, while a cyborg might have a bio-crypto QR tattoo.

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An AI and cybernetic PhD degree aligns with transhumanism or posthumanism philosophy by exploring and advancing technologies that extend or transcend human capabilities and experiences. Drafted by AI

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Not after Reality+. I have Alexa Neo is rejecting the artificial woman in the red dress, much like one might reject Alexa, seeing her as a digital creation and a distraction from reality.