David Fincher - Invisible Details

[@TConradijr]

As a compositor this is 90% of our jobs. fixing things no one will ever notice or would think should happen. I mean sometimes we create dust storms on Mars, but usually we're removing boom mics, adding time appropriate flags and advertisements or blood splatter. Grinds my gears when people complain about CG cause they don't notice 98% of what we do.

[@TheGeorgeD13]

Exactly. Grinds my gears as well. Not a VFX artist, but have worked with them and am friends with a couple of them. Have always admired the work they do. So, yeah... I feel you.

[@animationcomplex]

Yeah, I sort of have mixed feelings exactly because of that. The types of techniques mentioned in this video, like set extensions and tracking or replacing faces, building entire cities or comping parts of cities to make it time-period accurate, blood splatters and props, etc. are not unique to David Fincher at all. I'm not saying that it's not impressive but it sort of felt like a waste to focus this on David Fincher when this is prevalent in most movies nowadays. Kaptain tried to tie it in with Fincher specifically, but it's hard for me to grasp it when this is all very common (90% as you said). It certainly shows his commitment to the exact shots that he wants to justify certain VFX shots (i.e. gummy bear), but it's not uncommon and also why directors rely more and more on previs now. Maybe this is just because I also work in CG (feature animation but still)? I did find this as a great video to generally explain the amount of unseen or subtle work roto artists, compers, lighters, etc. do, but not anything specifically David Fincher related. So I'm glad that it seems so many people are learning about this. Just sounds like Fincher's had a great CG supervisor on all his films. I'd have loved to learn more about how his background at ILM helped inform his decisions. But again, I did think this was a great video explaining the work of these overlooked (and underappreciated) artists. And I love that we've been getting more frequent vids from kaptain!

[@crispyjelly2485]

Animation|Complex I always get a little annoyed when I hear about how undervalued VFX artists are. Hollywood is one of those few places a union is accepted in America, so form one and/or push for greater recognition. If that won't work because a sweaty Indian man can do your job for 4 bucks a pop maybe you should move to another field.

[@animationcomplex]

That's a strong reaction to one sentence that's not even part of the main conversation being had. Not to mention that that comment itself is very reductive on a number of levels. But if you aren't unwilling to accept the complexity of the global VFX industry's labor problems there's not much left to this conversation.

[@samgod]

This is an uninformed statement. Other areas of the entertainment industry aren't faced with foreign subsidies, fixed bid contracts, and powerful resistance against organizing.

[@IntrospectiveEntertainment]

Had no idea about the CGI blood; I have always been of the opinion that CGI blood is always terrible and can't ever look right. Fincher proved me wrong without me even knowing it. Nice.

[@92alexmaster]

CGI blood is used a lot. Game of thrones uses it. You only notice bad cgi.

[@mushfiqrahman4557]

92axelmaster true that's the problem of visual effects no one will notice when you do it well but everyone will notice when you did it poorly

[@Croix1]

yeah, the cgi blood here is really amazing. it still doesn't look like practical blood, but it's probably not trying to either.

[@kevin-sf6on]

You know the CG is good when you don't even notice it

[@EllieK_814]

"If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all..."

[@EoghanMcCarthy900]

Love how this guy didn't just decide to make a video saying how good Fincher is but actually made the effort to pick a topic hardly ever covered about Fincher...

[@SchulzEricT]

I would encourage you to check out the Fincher video on the channel "Every Frame a Painting." I'm not here to compare the two videos; both are great. I just think that if you enjoy this one, I think you'll enjoy that one too. (Also, that channel is fucking great. Not a lot of videos - and I think it's been at least a year since the newest - but even the categories I don't care about - like one on Buster Keaton - are fascinating.) And another fantastic channel that has a very good Fincher video is "Lessons from the Screenplay". True Detective vs Se7en - Creating Light Amongst the Dark kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3y2dZaqeJeiY9U Although obviously that one isn't about Fincher generally so much as one of his movies specifically. It's very much about the story and not the creator, but I think it's very well done. (It's not contrasting the two, like the title may imply, so much as talking about how they both do things in a really interesting way. It's appreciating both, not talking about how one is better, which I like.)

[@1080TJ]

I find it ironic that Fincher's only movie to win the Best Visual Effects Oscar (Benjamin Button) is the one where the effects are most obviously being used.

[@vibothbo6419]

probably the only one that the oscar people watch ;)

[@loudest_of_noises]

It's not really. Best visual effects incorporates, design, realisation and implementation, so shots that are being discussed in this video, whilst obviously useful, are not bold enough or interesting enough to warrant an oscar. SO many films use lots of tiny VFX that people wouldn't realise that these aren't particularly special

[@kokofan50]

A true master's best work is so good you don't even notice it.

[@OscarGeronimo]

Wow! Is like Oscar people is not scientific nor systematic in the way they rate these movies, man! Who would have thought? '-__-

[@sudevsen]

that's cause for Oscars Best =Most

[@KarstenRunquist]

Your videos are such an inspiration. Can't think of anyone who edits as flawlessly as you do.

[@joshtoomes870]

Weird that I could say the same to you now.

[@mariosellsbarrie]

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[@lachy6706]

Karsten Runquist hey dad

[@canofcoke7999]

Ayyy Karsten, follow you on Letterboxd and love your videos

[@tmwproductions3685]

Well maybe Fincher

[@cobaltfalcon9458]

Knowing this, changes my perspective of the use of CGI in films, really.

[@LaurianeG.]

Well you know, I for one don't mind even if CGI is obvious, as long as it looks good. Same with older types of effects (mate paintings, models, etc): I don't mind the fact that they are obvious if their aesthetics works and the movie as a whole stay coherent in it's look. It's why I can enjoy fully green screened films like speed racer and to a certain degree sky captain and the world of tomorrow (despite some shots that doesn't look as good as the others), or older films with obvious fake sets like batman returns (for example): they all clearly look like effects, but their visual style still works.

[@danip3270]

Agreed. I love my popcorn summer films to blow me away with CGI, but not the films I get emotionally invested in. Or so I thought. I saw a video recently showing the CGI in Mindhunter, a show I’m obsessed with. I could not believe how much CGI was necessary to pull off the late 70’s and early 80’s. It truly blew me away. It wasn’t noticeable, but it allowed me to stay emotionally invested in the story. Makes perfect sense now. I’ve heard actors, most recently Jonathan Groff, talk about Fincher’s genius. I understand now even more why.

[@GoalGuys]

My favourite video of yours so far. You're killing it dude!

[@foshomodo]

This one was next level incredible.

[@erikfcasey]

Goal Guys agreed. this was top notch.

[@icecreamalacarte]

The X-Men one was uncanny.

[@NoTodoEsArte1]

Tho video essays about Fincher have been done to death up until this point, it was pretty nice to see that you took it in a completely different way

[@AlexLove631]

Man, seeing Gone Girl really gave me hope of seeing a Fincher directed Batman film after Ben chose to step down.. I'd watch a 2-3 hour mystery/crime thriller with the World's Greatest Detective directed by Fincher any fucking day of the week. That said, Matt Reeves is a phenomenal choice as well.

[@michaelandrews117]

Alex Love Imagine a movie directed by Fincher, starring Affleck with Victor Zsasz as the primary antagonist.

[@flowey4998]

Michael Andrews With Victor Zsasz being played by the guy who played Rorschach in Watchmen.

[@StolenPvP]

Matt Reeves is pretty mediocre tbh

[@AlexLove631]

Flowey, I've always thought Jackie Earl Haley would be a fantastic Scarecrow

[@nicolasriveros943]

I KNOW!! Ever since i've heard that Ben was not going to direct The Batman, my whole thought were: "I mean, David Fincher already worked with Affleck in Gone Girl... he can direct The Batman!". Can you just imagine how fucking awesome would be a Batman movie with a crime/neo noir style ala Se7en or Zodiac combined with the gritty violence of... let say, Fight Club? Yeah, sounds too good to be truth, but one can dream. I'm really hoping that WB Don't mess up with Reeves work, he is a far more competent director that any of those who already worked in the DCEU

[@dragunkiller360]

I always knew Fincher used CG for certain camera moves, but I never realized it was to this level. New even greater respect for him after this video, and more to you as well for the excellent editing!

[@JacksMovieReviews]

This was excellent! I say this every time, but you have out done yourself! Congratulations!

[@Zorklis]

I absolutetly cannot wait for Fincher's Netflix series Mindhunter. I just know it's gonna be so good

[@hunterwhaley5221]

It is

[@alexhughesxz]

@@hunterwhaley5221 Season 2s out. Beautiful.

[@wallemmedia]

It was SO. GOOD.

[@Sweeptheleg83]

Yes. Its wonderful. Hope your enjoying it.

[@Aleczandxr]

Amazing video. Fincher is a mastermind.

[@danielwareking]

My favorite director of all time. We haven't had a director as consistent and utterly devoted to craft since Kubrick, honestly. Excellent work as always! I was so stoked when I saw this in my sub feed!

[@omahasamman]

Fincher a master craftier of 3D models on a computer KaptainKristian a master video editor with a the chocolate velvety voice that always have something interesting to say

[@GMHannibal]

omahasamman Well, he's a director not a CG artist.

[@TheUngiftedGamer]

Kristian you're the reason KZbin exists. You'r a regular guy who has a things he's passionate about with an amazing talent in visual essays. You're editing, thumbnails, narration, and presentation are so incredibly well put together. Behind all of that, you're just a normal guy who, as you put it, "creates visual love letters."

[@ManSeekingMeaning]

I just watched Zodiac last night for the umpteenth time. What the hell?! The timing is too uncanny, Kaptain's material too perfect. Covering one of my favorite directors? This is a dream!

[@ishaanthewonderboy]

Man fuck that movie everytime I see it I fall into deep research mode. Even thinking about that movie can get me into that mindset. It's the best movie to obsess over

[@AntonBaumgartner]

Champion Bescos I think it's funny how only a few climax points make Zodiac such a great movie I think the movie has such a great use of Exposition-Payoff

[@diku38]

Champion Bescos the best movie made by arguably the best director righr now.

[@erinwilson9104]

Couldn’t agree more. David Fincher is not only a filmmaker! He’s a visionary and he gets feelings and goosebumps in there too!

[@jlupus8804]

The fact that he cares more about immersion than he does showing off shows why he’s better than most art house filmmakers

[@ToonrificTariq]

My God, do I love this channel. I remember when there was only like five videos on here and I'd just watch them on loop.

[@ericgatubu7047]

This actually made me curious on how he'll use CGI in World War Z 2.

[@red1995j]

Eric Gatubu (haven't seen first so I'm speculating) and he's worked with Brad pitt multiple times.

[@ericgatubu7047]

Well obviously the first had zombies and you know that requires a ton of CGI, so I bet that'll keep him creatively busy.

[@ericgatubu7047]

I don't know about you but i'll take a Fincher sequal of a not so impressive first installment than no movie at all.

[@ishaanthewonderboy]

Ered1995j I recently read a profile on Brad Pitt, I think it was by GQ and Brad said Fincher and him are really good friends after separating from Angelina he didn't want to be alone so he stayed over at David's house for a couple weeks. It's one of the best actor-director partnerships I know I'm super excited for World War Z 2

[@altairglendeocampo]

this rumor is more than a year ago

[@pacbone117]

Just noticed how many popular blogs are sharing this video, with credit too. so proud of you for how far you've come man, love what you do, keep it up.

[@aakashauzome9157]

David Fincher - The GOD of Cinema....I'm from India & He is my inspiration Alwz... "Everything seems really simple on paper until you take a camera out of the box" said by David Fincher Hatsoff to my Demi God...No one can replace Him...

[@hisyamhasbi8257]

Dude you managed to grip my attention for the whole video without looking at any comment and without me even realizing it. That's an impressive feat for sure

[@jvictor3048]

He's been one of my favorite directors for some time now but this video made me develop a whole new level of appreciation for his movies. Fantastic stuff.

[@invalidblackout]

One of the best KZbinr's ever. No matter what Kristian works on I will watch for the sheer curiosity of his work towards others. What You do drives me to look further into what makes a movie/series tick and I thank you for that.

[@juanandrade2998]

Fincher is just giving all his friends work, and I appreciate that.

[@nishanmahdasian799]

I love this channel and it's videos. There is so much knowledge on the subject and so much work done to show things that we all missed. Every time I watch one of these I get lost in the subject matter, and am left wanting more. These videos seem like they will be long, but it seems like in an instant they are over and done. Truly great content.

[@mthggg]

This is so good, I never knew he used CG for those films. Damn you really do learn something new everyday

[@killex9501]

I've seen all your videos this morning starting with this one ... please continue, you are a master!

[@jmlrugby11]

The Social Network is one of my favorite movies, not for the subject matter but for the cinematography. And the soundtrack.

[@EveryCellAUniverse]

This is one of THE greatest KZbin channels of all time. Thank you so much for the content you've made. I truly wish more will come. Life is not the same without kaptainkristian videos.

[@kahnthedetroitdiyfashiongu2957]

I can't think of anyone as dope as this dude. Damn. I think I've watched all of them at least 5 times

[@oOZAPPXVOVAOo]

My fav vid essay channel analysing my fav movie director. Truly fantastic!

[@JackHoward]

You're the best.

[@cadenerskine6514]

Jack! Happy to see you here

[@harperellenburg]

KaptainKristian! thank you for making this! i've been obsessed with Fincher's movies recently and i had not clue any of those shots were CG. The man is an incredible filmmaker!!!

[@oliharding]

new exurb1a and KaptainKristian videos on the same day? Is it my birthday?

[@chris86simon]

I see a youre a man of culture as well.

[@chris86simon]

How are these opinion pieces again?

[@chris86simon]

Well said.

[@eddyNYC]

Yes, that's how teaching and learning works.

[@LuneyTune72]

These are getting better and better. I hope Fincher sees this and appreciates that someone like yourself is paying attention to his work so closely. I have a new respect for Fincher, whom I never even cared much about, and it's your passion for his techniques that makes me excited about his work.

[@jackbell9135]

Fincher is a prodigy

[@Vilakazi]

Jack Bell Is whomst?

[@andregmusic3728]

He certainly is.

[@FoodforThought12345678dsds]

He's a UK music band?

[@FoodforThought12345678dsds]

@Alexander Supertramp NO

[@KubuśpuchatekTVN]

Best director ever.

[@RocketLawnchair]

Another masterfully crafted video covering one of my favorite modern directors. Bravo sir. Bravo.

[@DarklordofDOOM57]

Gone Girl is such an underrated movie! Truly, a stylistic masterpiece.

[@coeuznatas]

I'm a simple man. When I see things on KZbin with professional production and extensive research, I subscribe!

[@KnightsDisillusion]

A nice youtube channel.

[@electricsunrise2948]

His editing skills are simply stellar!

[@KnightsDisillusion]

@@electricsunrise2948 They are! I hope you have been enjoying life.

[@dedsummer]

makes me want to watch all of these movies again. appreciate the deep-dives... AMAZING.

[@GianpaoloGonzalez]

DUDE I NEED ANOTHER KAPTAIN KRISTIAN VIDEO!! I'M FEENING

[@johnjohnel30]

I learn new thing every time you post a video. Much Love and Respect

[@thefury770able]

If David Fincher and David Lynch did the fussion dance would he be called David Lyncher?

[@shanegreen4076]

No

[@gaborosendofilms5505]

@@shanegreen4076 it was a good joke

[@bluetrailerproductions7488]

It was an Hilarious Joke

[@tjsmind]

the BEST video essays on KZbin! kaptainkristian you're the man

[@WheezyShotta]

*Nice little end to the second week of this shite exam season.*

[@razeensamsodien5633]

Same bru

[@batmanslegion]

ᏔίᏃ_ you can do it, don't give up

[@sanjayraju988]

Just One more week left.

[@decenthumans]

Same

[@peacefulltoucan]

Fucking dragon balls man. Frogs and dragon balls for Physics 1 and we've still got three more weeks to go. Oooooooweeeeeeeeeee.

[@ButlersTraining]

your content plus delivery plus visual content is out of this world, you're incredible

[@mfwhom5214]

Rocket jump did a great video on the use of vfx in movies that I highly recommend.

[@japzone]

MF Whom ?, What's it called?

[@metalfacegrimm1789]

I respect the profile pic

[@NoWhereMan95]

+japzone Why CG Sucks (Except It Doesn't)

[@novikovPrinciple]

The sad takeaway is that you know a VFX artist did an *absolutely exceptional* job when you don't notice it at all. Fincher's Invisible Details, indeed.

[@-eurosplitsofficalclanchan6057]

My favourite KZbin channel so far!

[@buonolover2955]

We need you back, my guy!

[@kankerkebs15]

Most consistent, most impressive, most incredible channel I have ever come by. You are an inspiration, keep it up. Love your shit Kristian.

[@davidpopa5947]

David fincher is my favorite director and I didn't even know he used that much cgi wow thanks for a gud vid fam

[@drkstep]

This is a whole nother level of Kaptain Kristian. Amazing!!

[@MrJackster159]

Are you done for a while with KZbin? Haven't seen a vid from you in 2 months. Miss the best channel on KZbin!

[@micaelacrespoverdu6849]

Of all the videos analyzing Fincher that I've seen, this is one of the best. All the other videos always use the same facts (his camera movements and color palettes) and you did a really good job talking about his use of CGI.

[@BabyBearRudy]

Damn I knew David Fincher was great but wow, this just lets me see that he’s actually on a whole other level 😱

[@anthonyespinoza125]

You're videos make me happy. Thank you

[@dimitreze]

Robert Zemeckis was the first to put "invisible" special effects on his movies. Too bad he lost the touch and the CG on Allied was awful.

[@wasifmoramen]

Fincher is my favorite director of all time...glad you put this together kristian.

[@bennyboii14]

You should do the symmetry of Wes Anderson

[@shashankpatole220]

The biggest star here is the author of this video. It takes masterful storytelling to break-down and make evident Fincher's mastery of storytelling. Double-thumbs up to kaptainkristian

[@befoul77]

*scratches neck* h-h-h-hey man. y-y-y-ou got anymore of them video essays comin soon?

[@FluFFY13G]

You're the best at video essays on KZbin take your time I don't mind rewatching

[@potmki6601]

David Fincher: The Cinema Magician

[@SideNote233]

This is literally the best youtube channel. Actually, your videos are far above the standards of youtube. You deserve a team, a show on Netflix/Hulu...

[@iwannabeawizard]

Where you at oh kaptain my Kristian

[@Incuhrekt]

Always a genuine surprise what you upload, while I'm not the biggest cinema fan I do consider myself a fan of all your work so I give it a listen/watch in doing so I find myself learning about things that I didn't think I could be interested in i.e watchmen and I thank you for that. Keep up the excellent work.

[@street_pisser]

Where are you kaptain? We miss your content.

[@ivanpb1983]

I'd like to thank YOU for putting so much effort and detail in each video. This is an outstanding channel.

[@Pignight]

I was wondering, have you by any chance read any of Junji Ito's work? There's a lot to talk about there and I feel like it would make a great episode! ~p.s. great video

[@Alvaro-uy9vw]

SuperEyePatch Wolf have a video on terror in general, but in that video he talks a lot about Junji Ito. I think the video is called "How Media Scares Us" ^^.

[@notsohandyandy]

Love this video. I watch it every couple months.

[@Heroasaurus]

My favorite director. (Alien 3 never happened)

[@danielwareking]

If Fincher himself could wipe Alien 3 off the face of the earth, he would haha he hates that movie more than anyone.

[@JKPancake]

no that was Alan Smithy not david fincher

[@Icetemplar]

David FIncher did direct that movie but there's a bunch of reasons for the moveis quality. you should check out Chris Stuckmans page on it, he did an indepth talk with someone. it goes for like 40minutes but really you can just skip ahead to when his guest starts talking and listen to him for like less then 10 minutes and you'll understand.

[@LeftHandedGuitarist]

Just me who loves Alien 3, then :p

[@joshjones6410]

If Fincher had his way, the film would of probably be good.

[@jrp5787]

The social network deserves its own video.

[@SpeedClaudeTheDeluxeVersion99]

I would like to see a The Thing 1982 and John Caprenter's work video

[@joshuataylor7919]

Wow, last weekend I was watching some video essays on Fincher and I was thinking how cool it would be if you covered him in one of your video essays, and now you actually did! Great job! Love your vids

[@christianspanggaard]

That Frank Ocean intro tho

[@EMxeros]

KaptainKristian is my favorite OC creator on KZbin. Always raising the bar, and exceeding it.

[@CGKey]

Never have I ever been this early

[@TheAppUniverse]

I'm going to have a David Fincher marathon now. Incredible video as always 👍!

[@scuot7327]

Dude where are you??? We(me) miss you. If you could do a nickelodeon video or even Cartoon Network would be the shit.

[@alannacarlson6715]

I love Fincher's work. He's been my favorite director for awhile. I knew he had used a lot of effects on TGWDT because they show the work being done in the special features of the blu-ray. I didn't know he did that with his other movies too. Great stuff!

[@Darkknight18297]

Most perfect director to make a batman film

[@92alexmaster]

Damn right!

[@Darkknight18297]

Diego M-A really hope so but just imagine se7en but with batman and Gordon and a lot more action

[@chrisbano9216]

Jhon Actually Fincher turned down directing Batman before Nolan, He didn’t want to ruined the story and the character of Batman

[@PopcornSkorpion]

I've been saying all this for a long time. Thank you for making my life easier.

[@razeensamsodien5633]

kaptainkristian analyzing film like Nerdwriter? Yes please!

[@hunterross3751]

What's an example of a horrible video essay Nerdwriter did?

[@baddiecentral22]

Razeen Samsodien doesn't quite get to the same level of substance tho

[@baddiecentral22]

Hunter Ross he won't say, probably just a hater

[@razeensamsodien5633]

omgzac True. But his editing skills are so outstanding, that you don't really care. You just being amazed by each frame

[@ASTRO56]

Actually educational and entertaining.

[@balls3444]

Oh my god thank you so much for making a video about David Fincher!!!!!!!! He's an underrated director and i'm so happy you made a video about him. And the video itself is great per usual

[@babywolf4238]

How is he underrated?

[@liquidpebbles7475]

Ok dude make a Twin Peaks video already

[@Anonymoose666]

I look forward to every video you put out. Well done

[@jamalabdisalam7442]

could u make a video on quentin taratino and analysing how to write dialogue in film

[@thatguyyouknowtheone4073]

the transition between the three movies was slick, just as invisible. you're too good, no idea what else I missed

[@LoganSeacrest]

This channel is like Nerdwriter -- but good.

[@binkzera2777]

Logan Seacrest Nerdwriter is pretty good. He just doesn't come close to the Kaptain.

[@duncansiror5033]

Logan Seacrest This is superior, but Nerdwriter is still very good, such as the Lord of the Rings vid.

[@theonewhoknocks96]

Logan Seacrest Oh please, Nerdwriter is great

[@jmorales09]

Logan Seacrest Why does everyone hate Nerdwriter all of a sudden?

[@AlexLove631]

What is this trend about liking one thing and immediately criticizing another that's similar? Both KK and NW are fantastic! How about we all just enjoy quality content?

[@ArbiterofMankind]

Yaaaaaas you're doing my favourite director!!!! Thanks KaptainKristain

[@reedoka-maclaren2313]

TIS BEEN TOO LONG

[@TheNerdySimulation]

This is a very well-crafted video that covers a topic a doubt everyone has thought about in an extensive fashion, which is exactly why I enjoy your videos so much. They are always an eye opening experience made interesting, regardless of if I know or even have interest in the subject matter. Keep up the good work!

[@andreleite407]

2 months without new videos...

[@jeolifter4449]

Andre Leite where have you gone sweet prince

[@bdoakes]

kk's videos are the only ones I watch even through the advertisement, because I don't want it to end.

[@Meme033094]

where the hell you been man been waiting for a new upload?!?

[@duncansiror5033]

Jeremy B Patience is a virtue.

[@Meme033094]

you right

[@RhysticStudies]

"art takes time"

[@LucasTetrault]

This was brilliant and about my favorite director so naturally, I was a fan. I had written a blog article a long while back but never touched on the hidden visual effects that he does so well - thanks for that new insight into his work!