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@RogerRockmore8 жыл бұрын
Remember how David stuck up for Kojima after he was barred by Konami from attending the game awards. Despite his personal relationship/issues with the man. Class act.
@KumiesCummies8 жыл бұрын
True. It's pretty humble of him. It sickens me seeing how much of the MG fanbase is calling him a crybaby and switching on him now. It's so fucked up and two-faced.
@RogerRockmore8 жыл бұрын
+Kumie Agreed, I was dissapointed when he wasn't used in MGS5(as Big Boss or a young Snake). Keifer did a great job and it turned out well but David deserved to be treated better.
@aoisora14453 жыл бұрын
@@RogerRockmore if things went well maybe he was going to be used still in the future... also Big Boss seemed legit, the reason Hayter got hate was cause people realized that the replacement of sorts did a good job and he was not entirely a replacement, there are so many snakes you could easily have had a David Hayter Snake and Keith Snake meet up in MGS 6, things like that... Also money, imagine you find the voice actor you want for a specific role, but you can not afford to also get your old voice actor and also MGS V was an unfinished great game... so who knows what would have or could have happened and in the Japanese culture there is a lot more shade thrown on things...
@RandomizationShow Жыл бұрын
As talented as Kojima is, he seems like a giant prick and a control freak. No wonder his co writer left after 3
@manwithballsonarm67752 ай бұрын
@@KumiesCummiesit's his own fault for going over budget on shit that doesn't matter at all trying to make a movie that nobody cares about
@JohnSmith-xk4nf8 жыл бұрын
Maybe the whole thing was just a distraction. while Sutherland was voicing Venom, Hayter was building Zanzabar Land.
@JohnSmith-xk4nf8 жыл бұрын
Noob. No shit.
@chataclysm21128 жыл бұрын
+shadowshinobi06 It was a joke as far as I can see.
@rifqihanief29098 жыл бұрын
At first,maybe Kojima tried to troll hideo and failed lol
@JohnSmith-rl3gz7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps.
@vincevega76847 жыл бұрын
"Zanzabar Land" sounds delicious!!!
@republicofsandles7 жыл бұрын
Metal Gear is like watching your favourite band break up.
@JelliThePilot7 жыл бұрын
And the Swan Song has some awesome beats, but the lyrics are all disjointed and terrible
@shevanel925 жыл бұрын
It's like Metallica albums. The first four are amazing, and everything that came after is still good, but not quite the same.
@wakkjobbwizard5 жыл бұрын
Metal Gear Solid has had a legendary run. Eventually all good things come to and end. The first one I played is 5. I just bought the legacy collection.
@MasterAce5014 жыл бұрын
More like a divorce
@magikplissken31584 жыл бұрын
This is pretty much like Oasis but Liam and Noel Gallagher multiplied
@RandomBlackGamer8 жыл бұрын
Yeah Kojima has a way of being a groupie when it comes to Western culture, the whole "we needed Keifer because he's an actor that could bring more emotion to Snake" was just an excuse to get him a big name celeb to be in his game. Hell the Japanese actor who played Solid Snake and Big Boss never got changed because he probably didn't care since it's Japanese. I have nothing against him but you can kinda tell that he's a Hollywood fanboy.
@hellspwanedperson8 жыл бұрын
so he is a westaboo?
@rakkoolthediju29098 жыл бұрын
+Fernando Puerta hayter voice work on the flash when he played king shark sounded nothing like his snake voice though.
@Viper4ever056 жыл бұрын
he's a fuckin loser for this bullshit
@Viper4ever056 жыл бұрын
he loves the character and he always has fun talking to the fans.
@watersports13816 жыл бұрын
Agreed, kojima is a pretentious fuck, even though he is a good game designer, he has this huge ego that he can do anything and MGSV fucked up, blaming konami is stupid, he was given free reign on the project and even had deadlines moved for him, but he is wasting money
@historiaw5minut5 жыл бұрын
Hayter is Snake. We all know it since the first game narrated by him.
@mr.arbiter9963 жыл бұрын
Ight
@nighlektolmn53902 жыл бұрын
hayter is solid snake only, hayter and kojima and mgs fans get your heads out of your ass, hayter was never supposed to voice other snakes, he was supposed to be only solid snake, big boss/naked snake already had dif va in mgs4 (sucks that mgs3 still had hayter); point is, it's just a big misunderstanding - im glad they got kiefer
@splashor63612 жыл бұрын
@@nighlektolmn5390 I think Hayter was great in MGS3 honestly, I'd rather have him like this.
@Tha3rdworldghost10 ай бұрын
@@nighlektolmn5390Then why was the Japanese voice actor the same? It's YOU that needs to get your head outta your ass
@shamusteakiawa7 ай бұрын
Tbh, I always thought his voice was too fake sounding. They should have used a more natural voice.
@joshuarivera61958 жыл бұрын
I understand David's frustration. He has done a lot for the Metal Gear series, and he should had got the chance reprise his role as Snake. No one can replace his voice.
@drunkensailor1124 жыл бұрын
There was no big boss in mgsv.
@nicosimioni73634 жыл бұрын
He did a lot, but Kojima did even more.
@joshuarivera61954 жыл бұрын
I respect both David and Kojima, and I hope they can both work together again in the future.
@fuckinantipope55113 жыл бұрын
@@drunkensailor112 yes there was. Not only Ground Zero, but also in a few parts of TPP
@buttermilk53642 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but the fact that he can put metal gear on his resume is an award in itself on top of getting paid. It's just weird how in America everyone thinks David hayter was entitled to a giant fish dinner. I love him but I also understand business. David hayter became famous and still does cameos for money as well.
@JamesCarmichael8 жыл бұрын
Well even David is feeling the phantom pain it seems.
@MGSDude018 жыл бұрын
Just as we feel the same pain. You feel it to don't you?
@JamesCarmichael8 жыл бұрын
I feel it.
@madarasante8 жыл бұрын
James Carmichael Some reason now people are hated on David Bayer called him a loser now. What man?
@toneymitchell10326 жыл бұрын
James Carmichael 😂🤣
@guytn57018 жыл бұрын
Once a legendary hero. Now considered a vilain by everyone. But deep inside, he knows he's doing what's right. Hayter does remind you of someone, doesn't it?
@edgargarcia18308 жыл бұрын
Raikov.
@chillidari-93928 жыл бұрын
Huey
@flexdon51888 жыл бұрын
+Guy Tn Venom?
@chillidari-93928 жыл бұрын
HellsSelectiveAiden69 nope, i dont think the whiny idiot that hayter has become deserves to be compared to Venom.
@chillidari-93928 жыл бұрын
9snaker In my opinion he is one of my favourite characters, but that is because i heavily analysed the game. On the outside, yes, Venom is a homosexual man in his 50's with a bikini wearing sidekick
@chrismanning71008 жыл бұрын
I think what what is sad is the loyalty he had for the role. He probably would've gone on to play Snake forever if they asked him to
@AngryShooter8 жыл бұрын
At first I was thinking there might be some bad blood between the two resulting in Sutherland taking the role, but now Hayter saying that he didn't even knew Kojima and that they always tried to replace him, all hints for a colder side of Kojima that I did not expect, one disturbingly and ironically similar to Konami's human management approach.
@MBCthunderstruck8 жыл бұрын
+AwkwardRenegade Well, the Japanese don't fuck around when it comes to business
@AngryShooter8 жыл бұрын
***** What I take from this interview is that they kind of settled for Hayter but were never fully content with it, there's nothing wrong with that in principle but it could be properly and respectfully explained to someone who gave his heart and soul to this franchise all these years.
@AngryShooter8 жыл бұрын
***** Being competitive and treating your business partners with respect are not mutually exclusive IMO, if anything you will be better of being known as someone who treats their partners well.
@desmondbrown55086 жыл бұрын
Well people are certainly a product of their environment. Some turn against the bad, and some just become more of it.
@PSYCHOV3N0M4 жыл бұрын
@@AngryShooter This is the bullshit that upsets me IF TRUE (if they were never fully content with it) because the FANS have shown since DAY ONE that they love David Hayter as Snake. So, why the hell would Kojima be ungrateful for the massive success the franchise has achieved thanks to David? EVERY vision always has some shred of a compromise in some way, shape, or form (time crunch, low/limited budget, glitches/bugs, etc. David nailed every audition aka he's THE BEST voice for the role but it's like if Kojima chose to purposely look for a flaw (or "create" one) in David's voice to the point that suddenly after so many years invested to suddenly just replace the iconic English voice actor of Snake for MGS5. Kojima fucked up.
@kenjiharimaCU8 жыл бұрын
Did Snake for 15 years, had to drop half of his pay check to get some of the old cast back re-dub MGS Twin Snakes, promoted the MGS games,had to re-audition to get the role, been replaced without a phone call and had to pay for one of the Konami staff for lunch. Seeing this possible Kojima's "work standards" can be as bad as Konami's as we all know Konami has a bad rep after MGSV. IF they can fire Hayter without a word, they fired Kojima just like that, it's really shitty business when it's Konami, if you see the MGS4 special edition, Kojima is really bossy to the staff, but delivers a good product, but if Konami treats people like shit it's really a bad business how they run and very unprofessional. Glad David is very professional in this interviews and whenever he's asked about Solid Snake
@TheVoltaire18 жыл бұрын
i agree with this
@Blag_Cog8 жыл бұрын
+kenji harima I completely disagree. Kojima decides as he is the director. It is HIS decision and Hayter is just way too entitled to get that. Regardless of what he has done in the past for the series, he should never feel entitled. Kojima is the boss and he has a vision for what he does. I think its unprofessional to explicitly say that he has no love for Kojima. This just means that he took it personal that Kojima didn't think he was good enough for the product. This is an industry. Get good or get out.
@starkiller236108 жыл бұрын
Minima made him famous and Hayter became cocky. He thaught no one but him could be Snake and so he started to phone it in. You could tell in 4 it was not a good performance. Voice actors should audition each time, other wise you get shit like in FF, or Crysis where next performances are shit. Don't be angry at the director for firing him, be angry at the actor for being bad at his job.
@AsifShaikh-uz1bg8 жыл бұрын
+kenji harima exactly my thoughts, Kojima is a great game designer but I remember in one part of the documentary some developer was almost begging Kojima not to force his team to add some extra feature or dialogue because the number of bugs was becoming unmanageable and he didn't want to risk breaking other things. As a developer myself I totally understand where he is coming from with this. I was surprised to hear Kojima say "and you call yourself a games developer??", this was a little patronising to me
@Blag_Cog8 жыл бұрын
Asif Shaikh as a programmer myself i think whoever was begging him not to do that was the reason it was so bad. Adding a feature shouldn't introduce bugs to other parts of the system. The system designers needed some people for interfacing it would seem, not Kojimas fault they were incompetend lol.
@CaptainWesker888 жыл бұрын
I'm with David here, and I don't blame him for not wanting to work with Kojima again. People are like "Kojima is the innocent party", but keep in mind, he's done a lot of bad stuff as well, from a business perspective. David did do a lot of work for the series, but they should have told him in a better way and told him he wouldn't be needed. People here can say that Big Boss is a different character, and while that's true, it doesn't excuse the fact they didn't tell him his voice wouldn't be needed in MGS5. Maybe that's on Kojima, maybe it's not, but it's still terrible they didn't at least inform him before going ahead with casting another voice. For a better example, it would be like you finding out your girlfriend/boyfriend has another partner but didn't bother telling you it was over. It's the same idea here.
@roguecactus76 жыл бұрын
Captain Wesker I hear there’s no loyalty in the entertainment industry... David Hayter = Snake.
@arsunen24966 жыл бұрын
Captain Wesker, where's Chris?
@yutro2136 жыл бұрын
I will never forget that, for the remake of Metal Geat Solid, The Twin Snakes, he managed to convince nearly the entire cast of the original to return, and even lowered his own salary to be able to get them paid. THAT is a exceptional commitment needed to be praised, regardlesse of your opinion about the game itself.
@sidjtd5 жыл бұрын
Captain Wesker that’s a terrible example because Kojima doesn’t owe David Hayter anything because his voice isn’t very professional, so they were doing Snake and David a favor by making him “earn” the role every single timr
@loregasmic5 жыл бұрын
Portable Ops may not be considered canon but I enjoyed it a lot more the borefest that was Peace Walker and MGSV. The series really jumped the shark after Kojima's writing partner left.
@WickerMahn8 жыл бұрын
Hayter: Can I be in the next MGS? Kojima: Wipe this meme from the face of the earth.
@bzrkr4448 жыл бұрын
XD
@doclouis42368 жыл бұрын
+Lusty Scripps Pretty much Konami tried to do that to him instead.
@MrGeneralHeavy8 жыл бұрын
+Roman Spork like Metal gear, we're not even sure who betrayed who and it turns out everyone is evil D:
@daveyrobinson37798 жыл бұрын
+CaptainWaffle Hayter was faithful till the end, bro. He was the Boss in all this shit.
@jjredfield37637 жыл бұрын
Nah, Liquid and a lot of other psychos are downright bad guys. Having motivations for your actions instead of simply being "evil for the sake of evil" makes you a realistic bad guy, not a good person.
@Pan_Z8 жыл бұрын
Back in 2013, everyone was defending Hayter over how poorly he was treated. Now, in 2016, many are complaining that he's just crying, and that Sutherland's performance is much better (even though Venom had like 3 minutes of dialogue). Also, Hayter isn't crying about anything. He's just giving an answer to an interview question. Edit: The whole situation shows how agressively apologetic fanboys are. Before MGSV: "Yeah Hayter's great. Hayter IS SNAKE." Now: "Sutherland was NEEDED for the change in tone. Hayter wasn't that good I swear!"
@timekeeper25388 жыл бұрын
3 minutes of dialogue was all that was needed to surpass a decade of David Hayter, mgs1 was the one time Snake ever sounded like the human being he was meant to sound like.
@noobishmacgaming8 жыл бұрын
+TimeKeeper25 it's a series that features giant walking nuclear robots, cyborg ninjas, an evil computer system that controls the world, and more. The idea that he wasn't "realistic" or "human" enough in a series with so much goofiness is just crazy. He was the perfect balance of serious and silly. By contrast, kiefer sounded like he wasn't being paid enough to give a fuck, and id prefer my main character to be a talking, thinking, and feeling character, not a soulless avatar that other characters merely speak too
@Pan_Z8 жыл бұрын
TimeKeeper25 Yes, because Solid Snake, the guy who hits on his female support team members, jerks off to a locker poster on the mission, looks at perverted magazines, stares at the T&A of women when they're not looking, sneaks cigarettes into a mission, takes time to smoke in the middle of a mission, and much more, totally isn't a bit of a goofy character
@filipinowhiteboy8 жыл бұрын
+TimeKeeper25 that was because Jeremy Blaustein did more than just translate Kojima's crap. He actually took the effort to make the game culturally applicable too. Take that away, and what does Heyter have to work with in the script? Mostly crap and that isn't his fault.
@matiasfrancogracia93368 жыл бұрын
+Pan Z It made total sense that Hayter didn't voice Venom, since he in neither Big Boss nor Snake, not even blood related.
@xtntxex8 жыл бұрын
I can see both sides of the issue. I think David has every right to be upset that he was cast aside so unceremoniously and I can see Kojima's side being that he had a certain vision for the character that required a more mature and subdued performance. I do think Kojima could have at least thrown David a bone and given him a little cameo in the post-credits dialogue, like him (as Solid Snake) receiving his first orders from Big Boss in Metal Gear or something along those lines. It would have at least demonstrated a little respect and acknowledgment for David's role in helping make Snake a video game icon. Not to mention it probably would have made many longtime fans happy.
@herumuharman63058 жыл бұрын
I was actually playing the whole game while expecting that Solid would pop up and I would hear David voice. T_T
@kellerweskier72148 жыл бұрын
it would have been all fine if David was able to play as snake in MGS:GZ. then after the accident and acoma, his voice changed.
@s.g.30427 жыл бұрын
+Keller weskier would make a great idea
@t-dawg52657 жыл бұрын
You just pissed off every Kojima fanboy, great job!
@chrisrichfield89066 жыл бұрын
Except it turns out snake only has like 5 voice lines in mgs5 so casting a new guy to do that is pretty much just a slap in the face to Hayter.
@MGOFor3ver8 жыл бұрын
David should be happy for not being in an unfinished game.
@droman55818 жыл бұрын
totally agree with you!!
@DennisMHenderson6 жыл бұрын
SNOT UNFINEEESSSSHHHHHT (!)
@lakerfan28746 жыл бұрын
MGOFor3ver Like its not Kojima's fault Konami was rushing him to finish it, thats why Kojima left in the first place.
@ShawnWeeded5106 жыл бұрын
Even unfinished it's still a fun game unlike Survive.
@NerdInked6 жыл бұрын
Shawn Zamir FFXV survive is fun as hell, play the game before talking trash.
@doclouis42368 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny how everyone in the comments is blasting at David Hayter for whining or whatever, saying how he should have been replaced for Naked Snake and Old Snake. Meanwhile nobody's looking at the fact that Snake's Japanese voice actor Akio Otsuka has been playing the role of nearly every Snake, (Solid, Naked, Solidus, and Venom) and nobody mentions that. Don't forget most of you people weren't to happy about Kiefer playing the role back when he was announced. Pretty much everyone bat's an eye at Kojima, because apparently he's above criticism. I gotta say it's disrespectful what he did to David. David was such a cool guy that he gave up his pay check in order to have the original English cast from MGS1 come back for Twin Snakes back in 2004. And he's been a dedicated MGS fan ever since the first one. Look, while I liked Kiefer's performance (for what little there was) Kojima should have at least tried to approach Hayter about respectfully instead of having someone else contact him. And pretty everyone here is being a hypocrite.
@mikeylambda13228 жыл бұрын
Finally! someone gets the fucking point kudos to you dude
@doclouis42368 жыл бұрын
mikeylambda1322 So many Kojima apologists in the comments it's unbelievable.
@doclouis42368 жыл бұрын
Alex Tesdahl Here's something interesting I forgot to mention. Apparently the Japanese VA for Colonel Campbell passed away and Kojima thought it would be respectful if the colonel no longer appeared for other installments. He couldn't see anyone else voicing him besides Campbell's original Japanese VA and that's why he no longer appears. That was respectful compared to what he did to David
@ZANGOJOE8 жыл бұрын
+Roman Spork Yeah! I see only hypocrites at Yong's videos. I love all of David Hayter's performances and one gamesite particular was praising Hayter for Peace Walker. And I was hooked too. Remember when Big Boss gets tortured and he says: "I killed her ... my beloved with my own hands!" There is so much heart in this.... And he and Robin Atkin Downes were so good together, too. But then Kojima blew it with Ground Zeroes. This Hollywood disease is what makes me angry...
@doclouis42368 жыл бұрын
***** Hayter does a great performance but only when he's not using his growly voice too much. I heard his voice for Winter Soldier in the Marvel Heroes game and I thought that's the voice he should be using.
@thatvideogamesshow8 жыл бұрын
Hayter is snake anyone else is just a poor imitation.
@thatvideogamesshow8 жыл бұрын
haha I enjoyed the performance... Big Boss is a different character so its not going to sound exactly the same as msg 1 Snake.
@thatvideogamesshow8 жыл бұрын
I have a different opinion but thanks for sharing yours man.
@557deadpool6 жыл бұрын
That Video Games Show Hayter sucks
@QuackingDragon6 жыл бұрын
I think Kiefer was the perfect choice for *Big Boss* in MGSV. Hayter's voice gave the character a sort of comic book vibe, and possibly could've changed the entire atmosphere of the game.
@unlimited9716 жыл бұрын
as i love the acting part in msgv, does anyone knew the character snake was based on snake plisskin.
@riomigz13058 жыл бұрын
I still feel sorry for David Hayter. I hope he'll eventually reprise his role of Snake if konami is still planning to continue the series, even without Kojima.
@iWillWakeYouUp8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Please no... if they do Big Boss/Venom Snake game, they need Kiefer o someone who sounds like that, or at least someone who sounds believably real. Hayter... I'd only want him back if he voiced Solid Snake, but without the ridiculous gravel. MGS5 brought the MG franchise into a realm of much more believability, which is good. The character models and voices made it feel as if they were real people, and Hayter's "performance" would certainly ruin that. I mean can you imagine him in a performance capture environment? Or even just in a facial mocap studio, doing his voice? He makes all kinds of funny faces because he's too arrogant to step down from his gravelly voice and just use his normal voice, with a very subtle gravely tone to it. Can you imagine him in scenes like the ashes scene from MGSV? I certainly can't.
@LightAndDarkMdness027 жыл бұрын
iWillWakeYouUp Believable? Like a girl who has to strip naked to breath cuz parasites? Or the laughable Skull Face? "SUCH A LUST FOR REVENGE... WHHHHOOOO?"
@helsharidy1237 жыл бұрын
LightAndDarkMdness02 I laughed so hard at this. That was probably the worst line in all of Metal Gear.
@amaljudejoseph50664 жыл бұрын
If they are going to make another metal gear game just remaster the msx version of metal gear that way kojimas influence is not totally gone
@diegozuniga61227 ай бұрын
@@iWillWakeYouUpthis is 7 years later but you're caping bro, David has only done what he's been asked for, he puts that gravel on because of how much Snake smokes, that's what he was asked for, in 1 he doesn't put so much but then he puts more of it at every game for that reason, at 4 he is almost all gravel because how old Snake is and hasn't stopped smoking, he can do a more serious voice with no gravel if asked to, they didn't, they barely even call him just to tell him he is not gonna be the character anymore, that's not professional at all. So even tho Konami sucks and is probably the worst game company in the world, at least they're treating David better and with a little more of respect
@the_courts_jester56434 жыл бұрын
Why did I random get recommended this 4 year old video.
@Vibe16104 жыл бұрын
Facts haha
@flamaniax57284 жыл бұрын
@25052647 agreed.
@cydia11centra4 жыл бұрын
same
@JonZMovies4 жыл бұрын
hi there, may I join you club?
@flamaniax57284 жыл бұрын
@@JonZMovies yes you may
@MamoMark8 жыл бұрын
3 years ago everyone is butt hurt that Sutherland replaced Hayter and were on David's side and people saying that Kiefer is a bad actor or sucks. Here we are now, everyone saying Kiefer is great and that David sucks with people saying he should stop bitching. Man the amount of hypocrites is strong lmao.
@Infinity-ym8zr8 жыл бұрын
Ikr and I'm still on David Hayters side. When I had surgery David Hayter sent a direct Tweet to me telling me he felt sorry for my surgery and told me to get better and that the pain will go away and I have huge respect for him after that.
@Infinity-ym8zr7 жыл бұрын
***** Uh Richard Doyle was The Fury and Big Boss, John Cygan was Solidus Snake.
@gustarddonut14527 жыл бұрын
Dude kiefer sounded so mono tone in mgsv David actually put emotion into 1,2,3,and 4 I can't believe the hypocracy that's going around it's like he said she said like people turn to one persons side then go to the other pick a mother fucking side and I'm on Davids side #originalisbetter
@zippolighter49036 жыл бұрын
Venom is a body double, so having Hayter not voice him makes sense. It still bothers me that Hayter wasn't BB in GZ or TPP, but what's done is done
@lakerfan28746 жыл бұрын
MamoMark People that didn't like the role change never even watched the original 24 series.
@mgslover968 жыл бұрын
Kojima has broke my heart, i mean how could you do that to the person that kept the franchise legendary the whole time. I'm with david in this one
@ZXNovaBoom8 жыл бұрын
Honestly, what's really annoying is the people complaining about David's complaining. They're blowing it way out of proportion, making it so much more of a bigger deal than what it is, and even making it a meme, making it EVEN more annoying. Regardless, he is within his right to complain about this considering how much he has contributed to the series. He's been working with the MGS series for years, from MGS1-4. He did his best. I'm very sure he isn't going about it every day, saying "And another day of me not doing the voice in MGS5" on his twitter feed. The guy has had many other roles in voice acting, not just Metal Gear. I bet these complainers have forgotten about that, haven't they? Just ridiculous.
@marxo65584 жыл бұрын
It's understandable, think about it, you give your life, and everything for the things you love, and in the ultimate end, they just dispose of you as if you were nothing, would you feel good?
@xlrrockmusic Жыл бұрын
I on a side of David, Kojima created the character, but David gave it life
@SmashSSL8 жыл бұрын
*WORDS THAT KILL*
@SmashSSL8 жыл бұрын
True Pride Indeed.
@HistoMagouri8 жыл бұрын
+True Pride with his breathe so still it makes me believe IN KONAMI'S SINS...
@greyfox67868 жыл бұрын
+HistoMagouri O_o Kojima's sins LOL so funny
@badasstoad94198 жыл бұрын
+SmashSSL This made me laugh xD
@psycholonya6 жыл бұрын
*WHEN YOU SPEAK THEM TO ME.*
@TotalTech2.8 жыл бұрын
Kojima tries to get David fired and loses his job himself. Konami fires Kojima, the fans destroy Konami. Karma at its finest
@omiorahman62837 жыл бұрын
The empire that topples from the inside cannot be rebuilt -baron Zemo 2016
@nicktaylor25446 жыл бұрын
un-winnable fight it seems
@eggboi84755 жыл бұрын
David Hayter then blesses fans with a meme about 3 years later
@allways284 жыл бұрын
you're pretty good
@BigMarcello1004 жыл бұрын
To be fair Konami kind of destroyed themselves
@joonas45618 жыл бұрын
Somehow, I knew this video would end up getting filled with arguments and hate comments towards Hayter. As a fan of MGS series, Hideo Kojima and David Hayter it really saddens me to see what this fanbase has turned into: bunch of angry nerds fighting each other.
+joonas4561 The funny thing is, I never saw ANYONE hate on Davids voice acting before Keifer replaced him. Now, all you see is hate for the man. As a Hayter lover myself, I really don't get it.
@ShawnWeeded5106 жыл бұрын
It's annoying as shit.
@baroquechevalier85165 жыл бұрын
That's youtube comments for you. Almost a bunch of fucking retards. Doubt they even played the MGS games.
@jamessabins8878 жыл бұрын
is ok hayter. if you played mgs5 you'd get upset that there isn't an ending
@Cogglesz8 жыл бұрын
+James Sabins I reckon the whole thing would probably confuse the hell out of him. Not getting to be snake but then *SPOILER ALERT FOR MGSV* it breaks the fourth wall and you end taking the role of big boss's decoy; Venom Snake. I feel a bit bad for him even though he's doing really well and not taking it personal. He was amazing as the voice actor of the Snakes. He's a big part of why MGS is my favorite gaming franchise. Its sad it ended the way it did but i wish Hayter all the best in the future, He gave us so much.
@cazadorcazado088 жыл бұрын
wtf did I miss, one year ago everyone was defending Hayter, now everyone is throwing shit at him? wut?
@devareojackson86828 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm wondering. David Hayter is legendary for playing Solid Snake/Naked Snake.
@WeskerLogan6 ай бұрын
this is crazy. hayter is just as responsible for the popularity of mgs as kojima
@lildubbs18 жыл бұрын
Honestly my heart is still a little broken, it doesn't matter now obviously, but at least to me David Hayter is still the true Snake. Would've loved a cameo in MGS5 but we're not living in a perfect world. I hope somehow, someway Hayter will be redeemed.
@spikevincent8 жыл бұрын
Hayter > Kojima Sorry to those that worship Kojima as a God but he's somewhat full of himself sometimes.
@crybirb8 жыл бұрын
+spikevincent Sometimes? He makes cool games, MGS V was awesome, but he did not single handedly made each of his games.
@SaintGat998 жыл бұрын
+spikevincent Hayter NEVER would've had the role if it weren't for Kojima. You wouldn't even know Hayter existed if it weren't for this series.
@spikevincent8 жыл бұрын
That's besides the point. He wanted to get rid of him. Good thing he couldn't or else we would've lost him in 3/4/Peace
@crybirb8 жыл бұрын
***** Remember that requires an entire team to make a game. Even tho he was the director, he wouldn't be anything without other hard working and brilliant people.
@Bestgameplayer108 жыл бұрын
+Alejandro Knoxville Hayter put forward his own money towards MGS Twin Snakes for the voice actors to return. If it wasn't for him, MGS Twin Snakes wouldn't have been a thing. If it did, they wouldn't have had nearly any of the old VA for the game.
@SaintGat998 жыл бұрын
I'm so sick of Hayter bitching about it. He's been doing this bullshit since the game was announced, bursting into tears like a fucking baby. I loved Hayter a lot, but holy shit get over it. And honestly, Kurt Russel would've done far better.
@Fatfit28 жыл бұрын
As an outside MGS player who hasn't played one since the Playstation days, I remember picking up Sons of Liberty and thinking, "Jeez, Snake's the voice actor is pretty bad". Everyone in the room agreed. it was amateurish. Hayder's voice acting might have held up 10 years ago, but for the Big Cinematic experience that was MGS:5 , Hayder would've devalued it.
@SaintGat998 жыл бұрын
joshua lynch Honestly, I've never had any qualms with his acting, and I think that, since he had more to say, he's done far better than Kiefer did. If Kiefer would've had more lines, I know I'd like him more than Hayter because he's a way better actor. Kurt Russel is basically just Hayter but better. However, Hayter's attitude since the announcement of Ground Zeroes is pitiful, and a lot of the respect I had for him has disappeared.
@M3g4UBERn00b8 жыл бұрын
+Raysiclove Did you watch the video, or read the title then comment? Hayter was clearly not crying, just being honest about feeling annoyed and perhaps not well liked or respected.
@SaintGat998 жыл бұрын
***** I've seen him burst into tears over the subject several times.
@Fatfit28 жыл бұрын
+Raysiclove I can respect that. I understand his anger and bitterness, he has a right to be bitter. We live in an era where we place these Confuscian, super virtuous standards on celebs and creators that we would never place on ourselves. I like Kojima waaaay more than Ha(y)ter; but I understand his anger. He's been a part of the project for years, and they tell him he's done over a drink haha that's shitty. lol
@Shuyin128MK48 жыл бұрын
MGSV was a good game, but it was missing to much of that Metal Gear feel. Not only was the new Snake voice different, but there was also no fancy Ocelot moments. I could understand in MGS4 because it was Liquid Ocelot, but in MGSV it was the original Ocelot. The gun range scene would have been the perfect time to do such a thing, even if it was only in that 1 scene we got anything from him.
@hanssmirnov99468 жыл бұрын
+Shuyin178 MGSV was missing too much of what they promised. Making it more Metal Gear like would've hit nostalgia, but it wouldn't be fulfilling.
@VoltageXXII8 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Pre-MGSV everyone was like "Wow that messed up for them to ditch him like that." talking about about boycotting it on that alone, and now that it's been out it's turned into "he was shitty anyway, too bad they couldn't recast him sooner."? I mean I understand this is the internet but what the fuck. xD "Quit crying about it" he's not, he answering questions that interviewers ask him time and time again that he's been answering since before it came out, he's probably MORE sick of having to say it than you are of hearing it at this point. It's not his fault every time someone interviews him they bombard him with MGSV questions.(Yong himself has said the same in comments) If anything he could've been an ass and ran around trying to bury this game by really whining about it and telling everyone that Kojima has been trying to ditch him for years, really causing a ruckus as opposed to trying to respectfully saying he was turned down for the role and that was that. Besides be real, if you worked for something promoting, acting, and putting a lot of yourself into a character for almost 15 years then to just get told "You won't be needed" would suck for anyone. Honestly I find this info both surprising and not surprising and interesting. Kojima had always acted like he liked Hayter's voice for the English versions, but at the same time I understand that he'd have wanted to cast Kurt Russel for Naked Snake/Big Boss at some point, due to the character's and the game's original inspiration in Escape from New York in the first place.
@ZANGOJOE8 жыл бұрын
+Volturm Your comment deserves 170 likes not that phony hater comment above!
@2Good2BeTrue458 жыл бұрын
+Volturm Im sorry but Kojima is still a scumbag having no loyalty to Hayter after all his years of service and giving Snake a recognizable and ICONIC voice that other mediums and characters still try to imitate/emulate. Hideo Kojima is still a visionary storytelling mastermind, just a vain scumbag.
@VoltageXXII8 жыл бұрын
***** 2Good2BeTrue45 Still I can't help but wonder if maybe corporate Konami had a part in not telling him as well. I mean it's not exactly like it was Kojima's place or job(not to mention his weak English skills) to personally tell Hayter they replaced him. So I can't 100% buy into it being all Kojima when there are channels he had to go through involving Konami which are the same kind of people that screwed him over, and the same kind that do things like approve of fan remakes one second then send a cease and desist the next. Who are we to know if Konami weren't the real ones to to screw over BOTH Kojima and Hayter. Really all we have to go on is Hayter's own admitted "conjecture" so basically he's just assuming what happened and has no more a clue than we do. I don't like taking sides in this kinda stuff usually in the first place ESPECIALLY with this little information. The only thing that certain is that Konami are a bunch of asshats so I'd be more biased against them than Hayter or Kojima. Also, the times he's said he's had to reaudition seemed mostly reasonable. Liquid, Solidus, and Solid all had different voices and BB in the end of MGS4 was different too, so it could be assumed Hayter was never supposed to voice BB or any other "Snake" for that matter in the first place and just couldn't find someone to better suit BB. The part that confuses me is making him audition for Old Snake was half understandable but still odd considering it's still basically the same voice. And after that I don't get why they'd make him audition again at all having already voiced BB and variations on Snake.
@jj-mcfly8 жыл бұрын
+Volturm When Kojima wanted Harry Gregson-Williams for MGS2, he reached out personally. If he wanted to send Hayter a personal message, he would have.
@ryanblack36867 жыл бұрын
Well the die hard mgs fans didn't care enough about mgsv to change their opinion over hayter. It's the younger fans who played mgsv more than the they games who shit talk hayter probably
@1SWINZ18 жыл бұрын
So Kojima wanted to stop Hayter from stealing the spotlight from him BY HIRING KURT RUSSEL!?!!?!!?!??!!?!?
@MechaMike8 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hajker69098 жыл бұрын
+MechaMike98 THE LIFE RECOVERY SONG YONG HAS STILL NOT USED IT
@MechaMike8 жыл бұрын
Trust me on my big boss run that thing helped so much
@hajker69098 жыл бұрын
+MechaMike98 And now Yong quit Plays altogether
@Neil-qg9cw8 жыл бұрын
It's another piece of evidence that Kojima is not the Saint he's always made out to be, although I still have a tonne of respect for his creativity. I've always maintained that if he hadn't spent so much time and money for V making unnecessary merchandise tie ins (that were far too expensive for most fans to afford - and no one cares if the bike in 1 small part of a cutscene is a Triumph unless we can use it), and twice as many trailers as was necessary, Kojima could have completed the V that fans deserved. Not to mention developing PT/Hills at the same time and trying to align himself so deeply to Holywood - meeting actors and directors constantly. Kojima doesn't even realise that Holywood is trash now, it's the golden age of TV again. Or maybe I'm just salty that they advertised the Puma sneaking boots to a worldwide audience, made them badass, and then only sold them to a small group of Japanese scalpers - nice work for the fans, now £1200+ on eBay.
@JackCrossSama10 ай бұрын
what's funny is David was cast aside by Kojima then after mgs5 bombed, Kojima was cast aside by Konami, poetic justice if you ask me.
@IlDeimos8 жыл бұрын
What a lot of people have to understand, is that Metal Gear Solid was more then just a job for David Hayter, it was his passion it's what he loved. David even said that it wasn't about the money when voicing Snake, he did it because that was his Character, from playing the Character since 1998, he felt connected to Snake after all these years playing Solid Snake and Old Snake. It goes beyond the Job part of Voicing Snake, I'm sure he felt hurt after finding out he won't be in the latest MGS game. I would be too.
@IlDeimos8 жыл бұрын
+Nelson W. If you ask me David Hayter is one of the most important people in the MGS franchise, he may have not developed the game, be he did bring it to life. Honestly, I don't think MGS would be this big without him, his voice and his acting put MGS on the Map. Remember Kojima has very unique eyes and ears for this kind of thing, he knows what is good, ok, and great for his work. There is reason why Kojima choose Hayter for the role of solid snake and why he kept him for so long for the Voice of Snake. So yeah, David did make the MGS Franchise what it is today, well at the very least he's a very huge part of it and all the success the Franchise has achieved. Put it like this, I bought MGS 5 when it came out, I pre-ordered it. And I still haven't beat it yet, not because I hate the game, but because I'm not tha
@IlDeimos8 жыл бұрын
+Thetechgenius that interested in MGS5 like I was with the past MGS games. I bought MGS 5 for PC and PS3 and I bought the strategy guide for it, just to show my support for the entire MGS franchise. But Kojima should have at least included David in MGS 5 in some way shape or form, just to say thank you for your hard work and loyalty to the Franchise, since MGS5 would be the last true MGS game. because we all know MGS is not MGS without Kojima. Look at Metal Gear Rising, that had nothing to do with Kojima and you can very easily tell he wasn't involved in that game at all. lol
@DarkExsphere8 жыл бұрын
he just wanted a more professional way of putting him off. rather than the way he was just set aside like a piece of trash.
@TenebrusI078 жыл бұрын
The more i learn about kojima the more i think Konami's treatment of him is just well deserved karma.
@filipinowhiteboy8 жыл бұрын
tell me about it. You should listen to the interviews with the game's former localizer; Jeremy Blaustein
@transcel7 жыл бұрын
No, hayter sounds young but hayter wants money so he continues to be the main character. They finally find an older snake voice but is still not that good.
@MGKGaming20167 жыл бұрын
Solid Snek IKR. I mean he pretty much planted his name everywhere as if we didn't know who made the game. I feel like he had his head in the land of fairies without even thonking of those that helped make MGS what it was. The series truly ended with MGS4.
@ptahrelayankh82537 жыл бұрын
MGK Gaming The series ended with 4?? Yeah right, 5 is a great game my favorite one other than snake eater sons of liberty was good for my childhood but yeah 5 is great a little much but great the same.
@MGKGaming20167 жыл бұрын
Ptah Re Lay Ankh So you would rather play a half assed game, repeating boring missions bad character development, hardly any boss fights and no substance for an MGS game!? MGS was amazing, the cinematic cutscenes, the added thriller with the storyline, amazing characters and engaging gameplay....5 was a piece of crap compared to any of the other MGS games. I've been a fan since the ps1 days, 3 being one of my favourites so for someone to say 5 was a great game makes me just think wth!?
@Johnnybomb12 жыл бұрын
After 5 years, and it still stings. They did him dirty. David Hayter did soooo much for the series outside of Japan, and quite frankly, Kojima should have been sucking his snake for that success.
@sirencall118 жыл бұрын
lol I knew Kojima wasn't the saint people claimed he is
@memebump92298 жыл бұрын
+safnhuo Give one example of how he was immature. Just one.
@Stinkyremy8 жыл бұрын
+Nelson W. there was that time hayter gave half his paycheck to get the voice actors back for TTS, he also was in the beginning live action sequence in MGS4 as an interview. he like the series.
@mathewchambers76308 жыл бұрын
Why should Kojima be condemned for making a decision that could improve the game he is making (not saying there was a better voice actor for snake they obviously still went with David for a reason for 3,4 and peacewalker). It makes more sense to have a different voice actor for big boss and you could argue an older voice actor would be better for old snake. The person who should be condemned is the person who didn't tell David that they were going a different direction with the game and at least say thank you for your work. If that's Kojima fault okay, but he doesn't speak English and shouldn't that job be up to some1 else like PR. Though, a tweet or a message from Kojima to David would have been the right thing to do but it's different culture and maybe Kojima didn't think anything think of it. I don't pretend to know either of the guys or understand the Japanese culture. So to really say if Kojima was in the wrong you need more proof but rarely are people as good as people say.
@Anon9729X8 жыл бұрын
No.Hayter is the one being a cry baby here.Kojima has the right to do what he want's it's his game and it would if made sense to cast someone else as Big Boss,Since him and Solid are different characters. Look at Hayters performance in PW,it was like we were playing as Old Snake.
@mathewchambers76308 жыл бұрын
+safnhuo never said he couldn't just said he doesn't speak English. I guess I could of made that a bit clearer but I ran out of word for that comment. So sorry misunderstanding. Anyway, the point I'm getting at was it Kojima who didn't tell him on purpose or was it at the fault of the company through miscommunication. That's what I really want to know and Kojima probably can't or doesn't want to talk about it. Overall, we will probably will never know but casting judgement without the full story is unwise (not saying you specifically have just in general). Furthermore, I personally don't think anyones name should be disparaged over this news David is just answering questions (whether or not you like the way he's answering those questions well that's up to you) and Kojima hasn't been proven to be a bad guy here. So not really worth all the fuss voice actors get replaced and fired all the time with this type of bad communication but this situation is a bit different.
@whiskeyopsonps44978 жыл бұрын
Now I'm proud that Kojima got fired from Konami. Karma is bitter sweet.
@thecolossaltitan10926 жыл бұрын
WHISKEY OPS on PS4 you think realy Kojima gives a fuck that he got fired?
@eggboi84755 жыл бұрын
Well yeah considering all his games got cancelled
@playthroughcinema Жыл бұрын
just like konami fked kojima he did the same to david here, it's like he robbed him of the big finale he'd worked all these years for, his contributions to making metal gear as famous as it is should have been acknowledged, I dont care about kiefer sutherland, kojima wanted to go all hollywood and showed no loyalty for hayter, so it's karma that he then got fked by konami.
@NobleBoss Жыл бұрын
MGSV wasn't even a much of a finale, the story was half baked. 2, 4, PW and Rising all had a finale feel because they were finished. MGSV was basically "that's it?"
@plugshirt1762 Жыл бұрын
@@NobleBossto be fair ground zeroes on its own is really good as it’s a great continuation of peacewalker and shows what makes big boss go down the road to villainy. Phantom pain was such a mess though with cool ideas that aren’t really fleshed out well and not a very conclusive feeling from the ending in any way
@carlosgaleotegandara78127 ай бұрын
WTF u talking about? Hayter did nothing for MG, if anything kojima made him famous
@unrealsimon934 жыл бұрын
WTF?? This popped out in my recommendation even though I've not watched anything MGS related in years, so I thought it was a new video from YongYea, but turns out it's 4 years old... KZbin recommendation algorithm strikes again.
@IzumaGuy8 жыл бұрын
A perfect example of that it takes more than one person to make a game. Sure Kojima created the MGS franchise, but he also could've ruined it. And it was people Like David Hayter who defied him and kept the series as legendary as it already was.
@slisbtor4ok8 жыл бұрын
+Izuma Moc (IzumaGuy) imo, with peace walker he was on the way to ruining it, and with phantom pain he actually did it
@timekeeper25387 жыл бұрын
In this case however it took Kojima to lead a team towards a singular vision, by themselves they couldn't even handle the original Rising, that's just sad.
@jakemagulick70064 жыл бұрын
Why do people give Kojima this huge god complex? I always thought he was massively egotistical.
@ayebeuy4 жыл бұрын
Jake Magulick it’s probably because people give Kojima a huge God complex
@MrBraddles31288 жыл бұрын
I legitimately understand Hayter being pissed off and he should be. The same thing happened with the Hitman games but when fans threatened to boycott the series unless the original voice actor was hired, the developers listened and hired him back. Splinter Cell made the same mistake that Kojima/Konami did. It's just wrong to cast an iconic part of a series aside like they never meant anything.
@xlrrockmusic Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@QuickQuackReviews8 жыл бұрын
David Hayter is right to complain. It's all but a fact that Konami and/or Kojima could've handeled this a lot better.
@Italianchef268 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the japanese voice actor was always the "true snake" for Kojima, so when he had the chance to recast him he did so without any trouble. I still think David Hayter would have been a good Snake for this game (he had very few lines anyway so...)
@NetherlandsFirst8 жыл бұрын
+Dario Ferretti It's weird, because they wanted a Snake that was less raspy I guess, but Hayter could've pulled that off fine too, I mean, look at MGS1. If anything, it was when he was trying to sound older and raspier when some emotion was lost. In addition, if he wanted somebody who sounded more like Kurt Russell, going with Kiefer isn't great either. So the decision to replace him with a guy whose voice doesn't even match Naked Snake's appearance really, is baffling to me.
@muslimmetalman Жыл бұрын
@@NetherlandsFirst Kiefer sounds like Kojima's original casting for Snake. That's part of it
@lavoroxan81148 жыл бұрын
What the fuck? i respect that they didn't want Hayter for Venom Snake because of the twist, but this is stupid.
@memebump92298 жыл бұрын
That's if the twist was even planned to begin with. It was so terrible it wouldn't be surprising if it was a last minute decision to push the game unfinished.
@MGOFor3ver8 жыл бұрын
+Lavor Oxan THE TWIST IS FUCKING STUPID!
@ThaNinjazTube8 жыл бұрын
+MGOFor3ver No it wasn't.
@MGOFor3ver8 жыл бұрын
Ninjaz Yes, it is. Everybody felt the TPP, you know what I'm talking about.
@ThaNinjazTube8 жыл бұрын
***** I know exactly what you're talking about. The Venom Snake twist was great.
@jessdidonato1838 жыл бұрын
It's always sad whenever I hear controversy around a game I like, especially when it comes to the Metal Gear Solid series. But it's important to keep in mind that this should not change my initial experience the game. Kojima brought the stealth genre to great heights while Hayter's voice gave Snake a larger than life personality. Even if they weren't on the best of terms they both made MGS very memorable. I only wished the Phantom Pain was handled much better than it was.
@Myyraman Жыл бұрын
Hayter will always be the voice of any Snake for me. No matter what.
@TheBeholderist10 ай бұрын
Liquid nor Solidus not even has the same va. And the 3 of them are clone of Big Boss. Why should David is in the rights to voice all of the Snakes? Not even Ocelot is being voiced by the same person throughout the series.
@Myyraman10 ай бұрын
@@TheBeholderist I said it quite confusingly. Hayter should play Solid Snake, Naked Snake or Big Boss.
@TheBeholderist10 ай бұрын
@@Myyraman Naked and Big Boss is the same person.
@Myyraman10 ай бұрын
@@TheBeholderist I am well aware. They happen to have different motives and had different va’s (kinda) so I differentiated them.
@divider9284 жыл бұрын
Anyone else got recommended in 2020?
@Gagandeep41214 жыл бұрын
yup
@KL-vs3ps4 жыл бұрын
Same
@kos29194 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Also some people fell for it and think it's brand new video. Obviously never play the game
@SuperDenizen6 жыл бұрын
Very late to the party but David Hayter as Snake(s) was the thing that kept MGS alive, from his voice to the shananigans.
@cmox18308 жыл бұрын
so you could say he HAYTES kojima
@JAKX0918 жыл бұрын
ayy lmao
@MrStarry868 жыл бұрын
Maybe because david's voice is so different from Ohtsuka Akio, kojima do not like david at all. While Kiefer has a more similar voice.
@homelesssheltervidlogg745 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter. Kojima should have recognized how important David was to the fans.
@tlee19828 жыл бұрын
I get where David Hayter is coming from which is understandable and I also understand where Kojima is coming form too in terms of changes things up. Both men are very talented in their own right and they're both respected for that. But we know things happen, and life goes on.
@sootythunder31118 жыл бұрын
I think I know what kojima was doing. Too many people who were not as familiar with the games lore kept thinking snake was the same person in every game, I think kojima wanted to establish that big boss and solid snake are two different people with two different identities hence why he wanted David to voice solid snake in mgs4 but not naked snake or venom snake in mgs3 and 5
@amo17048 жыл бұрын
They were looking for someone else for 4 too. He had to audition twice.
@faithfamilyandcountry74523 жыл бұрын
This game was my teenage years. 23yrs later I’m still playing it and it’s still a big deal. I love the nostalgia.
@dxBIGBOSSxb8 жыл бұрын
This news makes me very sad. I feel like anything Metal Gear related is tainted now because of Konami, and MGSV. I really love MGSV, which makes it hurt more. :'(
@dxBIGBOSSxb8 жыл бұрын
***** Wow... you again. We've already had this discussion. I don't agree with you. I don't really care what you have to say. I am in no mood to discuss this shit further. Leave me alone, and stop baiting people into arguments, and yes you do start arguments. You start them every video Yong puts out. I am not calling you a troll, but you seriously need to move on or just not bother. I also never said anything about konami not picking DH. I just said any MGS related news seems hateful and sad now. Good day sir.
@dxBIGBOSSxb8 жыл бұрын
***** I don't care. You clearly have a predetermined opinion on whatever anyone says about these topics and you actively bait people into argumentum everytime you claim to be "curious." I've seen how you respond to people and how flawed your logic and reasoning can be, so don't end with "But, yeah whatever..." in a passive aggressive manner to make the person you're talking to look like a douche. By, pumpkin.
@dxBIGBOSSxb8 жыл бұрын
+MasterBillard *Rolls eyes* Kay, bye.
@migsencarnado22616 жыл бұрын
You love it because of quiet...
@StridingCloud6 жыл бұрын
You sounds like Miller talking about his phantom limbs and dead comrades lol
@varghejo8 жыл бұрын
I guess Kojima can direct the game as he see's fit, i'm cool with that. But, given how cruddy the story was in the phantom pain, the switch in voice actors seems too arbitrary and pointless. It kinda ruined the continuity of the series for me, it seemed more like a one-off game than the finale in an epic series.
@brandonnguyen2348 жыл бұрын
I dont get how many fans think david hayter is being a total crybaby and how he shouldn't be bitching so much. He was a part of the metal gear series, he's the man who voiced the great soldier Solid snake and big boss! He has every right to be pissed about what happened. It's kind of like being stripped of your self and watching the character you helped build is voiced by another voice, not your voice. MGS5 was alright even without david hayter's voice but it would've been more respectable or at least more fitting that the final metal gear game made by kojima would have hayter's voice because he too helped build what metal gear is today or at least what the character he out so much work and effort into. Again he has every right, who wouldn't be pissed. Its sad to see such a split between Hayter and kojima but nothing can be done at the moment.
@fernandodchusyd8 жыл бұрын
they are kojima fan bytches. kojima also fucked mgo3 game that i loved and waited. i can tell kojima to shove death stranding in his ass.
@SpencerDamned4 жыл бұрын
"i havent played the latest two iterations, because its just too painful" - me fuckin' to.
@Dacho_Shaki8 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have to agree with David Hayter about Kojima acting like a rockstar. I mean he's a very good game designer and it shows in Snatcher, Policenauts and Metal Gear games but his ego is getting way over his head lately. I think David Hayter had every right to be sulky about Hideo's decision replacing David Hayter and he could have handled it professionally instead of canning him without any notice. I respect Hayter as an established screenwriter and producer, I'm fond of his iconic voice acting in Metal Gear games but it shows that he isn't a voice actor and Kiefer is more of a professional but he at least deserves a credit for the success of MGS in terms of promotion for the past 18 years. Not to mention that he had to drop half of his paycheck to re-cast as much of original voice actors as possible in Twin Snakes. You don't see Troy Baker ever doing that.
@LosDStoNerd2 жыл бұрын
Kojima screws Hayter, Konami screws Kojima lmao
@adambridson8588 жыл бұрын
I salute you David Hayter, the one and only Snake.
@Nebuljr7 жыл бұрын
(Spoilers beware!) I didn't mind that he got recasted considering the fact (SPOILERS FOR MGS5 BEWARE), that all along we weren't playing as snake. So it makes sense that they decided to go with kiefer sutherland. I find that he did an amazing job despite the fact that he got very little lines. However, I was very disappointed that at the end when Big Boss revealed himself they didn't use David Hayers Voice. I was really hoping this would have been the case and it would have fit perfectly and make sense. It was a missed opportunity and a great surprise to all fans.
@omiorahman62837 жыл бұрын
It's only venom after coma
@alphasev6 ай бұрын
Yea i can see both sides here but i understand why you would want a new voice for a new snake. If we go by the logic that hes all the snakes then what about liquid and solidus. He is solid and will always be solid. Doesnt mean he has to be naked and venom too. He got lucky to come back as naked for 3 but it seems kojima never wanted that and in the end finally got someone else albeit in a rude way.
@alejandrator14 жыл бұрын
I don't know why this video was recommended to me, but it gets me waaaay back.
@BadassRaiden8 жыл бұрын
Even from David its all second hand. He said he heard tht Kojima asked Russell. Isnt it very much possible that Konami told Kojima to do so.
@stevedoidoultimate48156 жыл бұрын
Anthony Smith Nowadaus Konami gets Hayter whenever possible, so I doubt anyone but Kojima wanted it.
@RowdiesRoddies8 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best to explain this. I enjoyed the Metal Gear Solid Series including the MSX version. Ground Zeroes I thought was good and as for The Phantom Pain I would have liked it more if the game was fully complete. The part where David talks about 60 hours of humiliation, I agree with him there because I would have like to see him play a game that is not fully completed. What David should be happy is that he's not involve with the project and being tackled with question like, "David, why is the game not completed? David what's going with Konami and Kojima or When will they give us the final episode?"
@lightkon14778 жыл бұрын
i dont feel like kojima wanted to get rid of hayter. He just didn't want him to play big boss, which is understandable. he had a certain vision for big boss. hell if he wanted hayter off the series why did he let hayter do mgs 4, port ops and peacewalker
@unkn0wnrge1897 жыл бұрын
Hayer make me feel like I'm a 12 years old boy again, with the desire of being a hero, cause his voice is so cool, it rocks
@AgentMorgan20108 жыл бұрын
It pisses me off seeing so much hate towards Hayter. Most of these Kojima nuthuggers are dumb kids that just don't get it. MGS1 on PSX would not have had the same impact that it did without Hayter's characterization of Snake. He brought that badass-ness that helped make you feel like you were playing an action movie. The voice acting and localization was key to the success of a game like Metal Gear Solid, and is a huge reason why it was so special, memorable, and commercially viable enough to spawn a million sequels. - Kojima doesn't speak English. He never casted any of the US voice actors until he unceremoniously had Hayter booted without telling him about it. - Hayter voiced the character for over a decade, and gave up half his pay to bring all the original actors back for their supporting roles in the Twin Snakes remake, because he obviously cared about it more than Konami or Kojima did. They could have at least told him.
@luisville90508 жыл бұрын
At least he is not being politically correct and he is speaking his mind honestly when asked.
@LIONREV78 жыл бұрын
I wonder if anyone told him about the plot twist at the end of MGSV,maybe that would make him feel better.
@XxShadowGTxX6 жыл бұрын
Kojima-San is the living legend and he has my loyalty as a consumer, but there's only one true Snake... Snaaaaaakee!!!!! David Hayter will always ve the voice of Snake to us.
@DeadPixel11057 ай бұрын
"Kojima-San". God, you're so pretentious.
@shrektendo12304 жыл бұрын
This is like if Nintendo tried to replace Charles Martinet, both men love doing their jobs and their series’s wouldn’t be the same without them.
@deadjuice18806 жыл бұрын
They both seem like the kind of person to want attention and to be an icon. Them not caring for each other makes sense. One one hand, MGS wouldn't be a thing without Kojima. On the other hand, it wouldn't be the SAME thing without David's voice. David's work will be in my memories as long as I live. And I look forward to what Kojima brings next.
@SynaraC4 жыл бұрын
Honestly Big Boss should’ve had a different voice actor in the beginning to avoid problems like this. David Hayter should always be Solid Snake but Big Boss should’ve had a different voice actor.
@angellara70403 жыл бұрын
Sold snake is a close clone of big boss
@nathanieljefferies54912 жыл бұрын
@@angellara7040 well so is Solidus and Liquid yet they had completely different English VAs. It made them step out of the shadow the Solid Snake and be iconic on their own right...even near the end of MGS4 they cast Richard doyle as big boss. I LOVED Hayter’s voice as a kid. To me He IS SOLID SNAKE but because of that, I was turned off by MGS 3 and Peace Walker cause it felt confusing af since they used his iconic voice to fill the role of another iconic character which was both weird and made it feel cheap. Considering how they were prequels, I did not really care much at that point. But I felt that the Voice director should have done more with Sutherland...I mean his “Kept you waiting, huh?” Was so dry as if he was simply dictating from a script.
@DelanceyThrone8 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's so interesting to see people claiming Hayter is whining and bitching about this? I'd say he's being very fair, and maintaining his professional decorum here.There are in fact at least two sides to every story, and people have many facets to their character. Kojima very well may have had a semblance of jealousy (although that's perhaps too strong a word) towards Hayter, the man, although he is an absolute legend, clearly has some God complex and strives for the spotlight. He has even credited his voice as the 'voice of God' in some of the Metal Gears. Hayter has dedicated a ton to this role over the series, even doing a job that he wasn't wanted for, and I would say that a large proportion of that reason is for the fans. Think of the backlash Kojima and Konami had for switching him over in MGSV was phenomenal, Hayter at least postponed that many years ago. Are we also forgetting that he gave up half of his salary on The Twin Snakes so the team could hire nearly all of the previous voice actors for the game? I mean, who else would do that? Not many.I still highly respect Kojima, but I don't think he's all rainbows and gumdrop smiles. And I think out of everyone, Hayter seems to have acted the best way out of this, with the most interest in the fans.I thank him for that.
@TheLopez188 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, didn't expect that.
@L4L1LuL3L08 жыл бұрын
I think that Kojima didnt liked a bit the fact that David Hayter was so popular among the Metal Gear fans. We all know how egocentric Kojima can be and Hayter was a threat to him. EDIT: Oh my God. I reach the part when Hayter says the same thing I said (yes, I wrote at the middle of the video).
@stefanotommarelli69698 жыл бұрын
let's just remember that kojima is a genius and people say all the time that working with a genius is a real hard time, but in the konami/kojima conflict i personally took the kojima side. i understand him in everyway but in the hayter/kojima conflict ( which i dont know if ever was, because hayter said so many times that he doesn´t know kojima personally) i have to take hayter's side because i really think that kojima productions could have handled the issue better by at least telling hayter that they where going in a diferent direction for MGSV. i remember in 2014-15 everybody was mad because hayter was replaced but after the game came out i see a lot of people angry because of hayter's statement, which brings me to the point, everybody thinks that kojima is a saint now because konami fuck him over but he basically did the same thing to hayter. just because he was a victim doesn't mean that he can't be a dick also....SORRY FOR THE LONG POST AND MY BAD ENGLISH!
@azure55848 жыл бұрын
Wait, Hayter hasn't played the latest two iterations, meaning what, 4 and 3? For all the people who seem to agree with him about the lack of his persona in V, he really seems to be bitching too much about his own absence there. V's gameplay is great, could've been better but apparently I'm in the bag with few people who really enjoyed Keifer's performance and voice. Hayter's last comment here seems to bring out his hurt ego, too.
@RakensenFlame8 жыл бұрын
Kiefer's performance was great, all 4 lines of it
@Duransurik8 жыл бұрын
first Big Boss was already voiced by someone else and that always hit me wrong but Rakensen has the right of it, i was getting the feeling Kojima knew a lot of people would not like Keifer so they made it to where the main Character in his game has the Bobba Fetta problem very little lines and if one is going to change a character don't be afraid to go all in, me I was salty and raging when Ground Zeros came out but when I started playing 5 it did not bother me at all
@animal163658 жыл бұрын
David Hayter will always be Snake even tho he isn't in MSG 5, maybe he could have been the voice of Big Boss at the end were Venom snake is listening to that tape??
@Gonken887 жыл бұрын
I've played MGS since 1998 when the first PS-version came out. I was 10 years old and went into town with my father after he quit work one evening, and bought a PS1 and MGS. being used to playing games like goldeneye, and being at that age, I wasn't too happy about long cutscenes, but this was something else - the music and the voice acting. the character snake has become part of me, and I've played all the MGS games since. Solid Snake has been sort of like a role model to me while growing up, and it helped me get through cancer and a lot of other bullshit, and David Hayter IS Solid Snake, there's no fucking way of replacing that. MGS5 is eye candy, nothing else. no soul, bullshit story, boring weapons etc..
@pushplay62113 жыл бұрын
Solid Snake isn’t Snake without David Hayter. Konami’s Metal Gear Solid isn’t MGS without Kojima. Oh it’s a revolving door of F’ing. Nobody wins but the door!
@DreamerFromTheDepths5 жыл бұрын
It makes sense after Hayter was basically told "You're expendable, we don't care about you." Stupid really, after casting David the first time he was never going to be replaced, I understand why but it sounded really pretentious from how it was decribed. Ages, different people, all that kind of stuff, it makes sense from that perspective, and David Hayter's a very mature and by the books kind of guy. It's fair to be sour about things as long as there's nothing truly personal you know?
@tonyfired8 жыл бұрын
kojima was trying to ruin this game all this time?
@dadabubz26748 жыл бұрын
It makes me mad to hear how Kojima treated Hayter, now I'm glad Konami fired his ass!
@sebastianacevedo30437 жыл бұрын
David Hayter is better than Keifer Sutherland. Way way better
@omiorahman62837 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Acevedo both are good , you don't fix a pipe that ain't broken
@RogerRockmore4 жыл бұрын
I'm grateful that David didn't walk away from MGS because 3 & 4 were some of my favourite games. I doubt though many could blame him based on how he was treated. I would have probably walked away after being made to re-audition / going behind his back. Low class and lack of spine from Kojima.
@kos29194 жыл бұрын
This is a video from 4 years, we now know why he picked Sutherland. Do you even play the game or at least know the lore?
@mrshmuga94 жыл бұрын
Kos 291 I haven’t, but it also doesn’t matter. He treated the cast of MGS V pretty harshly too when it came to doing Death Stranding. It’s fine to want different actors but despite acting all buddy-buddy with them, he doesn’t even have the courtesy to talk to or address them when the next thing comes along. It’s worse with Snake though because Hayter had a long career with them as apposed to a one-off, and it looks like Kojima handled communication poorly or at least not showing any respect. It sounds like Kojima was trying to brush him off as much as possible rather than saying he’s appreciated but he won’t fit in the story.
@Kem1kal138 жыл бұрын
I bet David Hayter's bedroom is decorated like a 12 year old child's, with solid snake on everything
@Skydrag.V608 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm I thought David still respected Kojima
@Nerwrax158 жыл бұрын
He does. He said he still respects him, he just doesn't want to do business with him again
@Skydrag.V608 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I guess so...
@Skydrag.V608 жыл бұрын
+Nerwrax15 I get that...
@TheVoltaire18 жыл бұрын
+Nerwrax15 yeah pretty much.
@duchecake8 жыл бұрын
This is the way of the business people. I have a strong feeling that Kojima is a perfectionist in every sense of the word, and if he felt that there was a need to get a replacement for Hayter, who are we to disrespect that. I see comments of people who are saying that they "Dislike Kojima now", because of the alteration in the cast. Ocelot had a voice change in MGS 3, because his character was portrayed as younger, so why the hell couldn't he change that of Snake's voice? I don't think you can call yourself a true MGS fan if you give the creator stick, for changing up things. One of the main reasons for Kiefer replacing Hayter, was due to the fact that Snake was going to portray feelings using facial expressions, by using the face MOCAP, and they needed a seasoned actor to get the full effect of this. Kojima is the master behind Metal Gear, not David Hayter.
@JackSpad3s8 жыл бұрын
+duchecake yeah but Kojima could have handled it more professionally and at least inform Hayter that he will not be playing the character
@saoliath50007 жыл бұрын
As a customer though, i dont care about what they think is good for business
@Dewelwield10104 жыл бұрын
Why was this recommended to me in 2020?
@gtlover75054 жыл бұрын
Because metal gear solid 1998 is getting a remake for ps5
@Dewelwield10104 жыл бұрын
Divine 1ntelligence it’s not the same if Kohima ain’t directing it.
@MrScotty58773046 жыл бұрын
The credits at the start and end of every single mission in V is very telling as to what Kojima's ego is like. WE FUCKING GET IT HIDEO YOU MADE THE GAME!
@unwritten_zephyr7 жыл бұрын
How is Hayter being whinny? He's actually handling the thing quite maturely, which makes me respect him even more then I ever did.