PROPAGANDA For High School Kids In 1948! Would They Show This Today?

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Interesting Russian anti-American propaganda. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXirYWx3mcmKf6M

[@Gonken88]

It's more interesting to see all the anti-russian propaganda worldwide now. Putin being fully transparent yet a majority of people still think Russia is planning to invade the whole world.

[@clemdelafrome3570]

This is Not Russian propaganda. This is an American film company reporting how Some americans were using tactics used by Communist Russians to persuade opinion. This was filmed like 70 yesrs ago. They didnt have russian interference in elections back then. Except for McCartyism. Who used the Germanic approach... or sumthing like that... you know because the natzis were really fighting against tha communist. Back then. 😊

[@williammaldonado6132]

Thanks! 👍

[@jordancambridge4106]

Man Joe Biden looks young in that video.

[@jenkinsljenkinssquire9137]

This is great information. However, the left will just turn a blind eye to it even though it's right in front of their face.

[@teresabenson3385]

They should be teaching kids how to identify propaganda techniques, now more than ever!

[@javieredward777]

Exactly.

[@anamericancitizen2971]

Yes, they can teach it to all the little boys and girls teachers allow to act like dogs and cats in school these days.

[@StillAliveAndKicking_]

Mmm, but how would teachers subtly indoctrinate children if they can see through the propaganda?

[@citizenGman]

That is never going to happen, since the propagandists run the educational system. Oy vey.

[@dynamicworlds1]

There's even an academic game for it "techniques of propaganda". Works for all sorts of advertisements too. If we're going to have standardized testing, identifying propaganda should absolutely be part of reading comprehension (not that most who would be making that decision would actually want it taught).

[@Brian_195]

“People want the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought” -JFK

[@Frankie5Angels150]

“The problem with Internet quotes is that attribution to the right person is difficult.” -Thomas Jefferson (or was it Abe Lincoln?)

[@danbyrne6501]

Obama, Clinton

[@davidray2682]

Even funnier thing about that "quote" is that you used someone elses "opinion" so you didnt have to come up with your own thought.

[@stevenfromer3816]

@@Frankie5Angels150🤣🤣🤣

[@thenatureofnurture6336]

David Bowie phrased it, "I don't want knowledge, I want certainty."

[@vmofficial9]

This man is probably rolling in his grave seeing the state of politics today.

[@masonthompsen9209]

Not really. Note that he freely admits to using propaganda himself. He's not above it, he simply wants the American public educated on it. He would be more disappointed in the school system than with politics itself.

[@kel5944]

@@masonthompsen9209the worse part, really making him roll in his grave, is the fact that you see these things as two different and unrelated issues.

[@franciasii2435]

​@@masonthompsen9209the greatest weapon against the masses is their own ignorance.

[@malvavisco10]

@@masonthompsen9209 was it just as an illustrative example for this educational video?

[@seandobbins2231]

​@@masonthompsen9209no, OP is right. One of the key differences is that in the video he states to study all sides, not simply take a single side as the only representation of truth or fact. Also, the main thing here is to show that propaganda isn't inherently false, it's fallacious, misleading, or emotionally charged for the purpose of persuading large groups of people, especially the average person. The state of politics today is horrible and worse than it's really ever been. Despite our incredible access to information and the supposed more enfranchised voter system, we have worse voter turnout, less educated voters, and such a polarized population that can't even tell what the hell is even true that they don't even bother to look up simple terms they should've learned in high school like "tariff" until after an election in which that term is a very important issue. This video was meant to teach how to not get duped by propaganda when people seem to be even more gullible than before and that's why he'd be rolling in his grave.

[@UnknownArchive]

This is actually one of the best ‘educational films’ from this era that I’ve ever seen. We don’t even see anything quite this honest in THIS era.

[@EdgyShooter]

I'm certain it could be, however it would be skewed to the party that made it and saying that all these things are what the other party are doing

[@UnknownArchive]

@ If they made it today, it’d be sponsored by ‘Coke for Freedom’ or some bs. The teacher would be a sentient iPhone w a sassy personality, and all the lessons would be dumbed down using only the most blatantly obvious examples, like the catch-all boogieman ZE GERMANS!

[@corbeau-_-]

well, we do, but it's far, far on the background and often its easier to move around being honest. When nukes came out people were told to hide under the table, though. The quack and charlatan is of all times. Like fearmongering, the cold shoulder and embracing and alienating are. Internet and the turning away from traditionally (controlled) media like newspapers and radio introduced a new way for anyone to gain fame, attention, whatever - but through the forrest one could still detect marvellous trees. It's a sad thing, honesty doesn't seem to have sunk in into this digital media age. It has just become harder to pick the lesser evils in this world. Perhaps because we get more honesty, more than ever before, through all those mediachannels. Nevertheless, deceit has always been part of our nature, like trust and hope is and it makes it harder to judge what is what in this era. Opinion seems more important than ever, more important than reality. I fear the incoming correction. Seeing we all drunk the kool aid.

[@olddognewtricks5879]

​​@@EdgyShooter the beauty of teaching this and even the film itself , is that no one could actually skew the information because it shows you how to counter that very issue. Films like this aren't shown today for that very reason. Both major political parties use propaganda how ever one of those parties has quite literally dredged up fascist propaganda to advance their agenda. The best thing an individual can do is not put themselves in an information silo. A good way to see if you have done so is to take all of the points discussed in this video and other material on the subject and weigh it against factual data on the subject. I myself am a progressive with socialist leanings, but I came to have that position by looking at various systems and finding failures that are simple to overcome provided people themselves are allowed to make decisions for themselves based on actual societal needs. You can not have a government for the people by the people and of the people if everyone isn't equally represented. The greatest issue facing our nation is simply the fact that one party consistently tells you that powerless poor people are your enemy but they can fix it by oppressing them and that particular party is more monolithic than the other party that has an old guard bunch of cronies that are very much wanting to keep the status quo. That being said the latter party has broken to a more progressive leaning stance in many areas whilst the former mentioned party has not changed it's rhetoric in years in fact as a party their elected officials have staunchly doubled down on issues that factually the majority of the nation doesn't want. I will leave you to determine which is which but do your research with do diligence fact check everything including my statements.

[@DianeLake-sw3ym]

I've seen many from back then on here. It is really interesting to see life and problems of the era being brought up for these films. They informed kids and helped them to learn. But, they are hugely informative for people today to see life 70 years ago and see progress as well as regression in our lives. The funny thing is that the kids and adults seem to be so much better intellectually and with knowledge of the world and life and country then today.

[@xdanbo1859]

This is what true education should be. Teaching critical thinking.

[@vanschroeder5063]

That's what the GQP people like MTG refer to as "liberal indoctrination". Educated voters and those who think for themselves typically don't vote GOP, and they know this. As Trump said "I love the under educated"

[@Chaotic_Observer]

absolutely, more than ever.

[@janellek21]

Exactly, But education stopped teaching logic and critical thinking when liberal ideologues took control of curriculum development.

[@childofcascadia]

@janellek21 Nice example of political propaganda right there, thanks for the example. Dont you realize that this "liberal vs conservative" tribalism is driven by outside actors and people who want the populace regardless of personal belief outraged and angry? Because when you're outraged, afraid or angry, you quit thinking and just start reacting. Easy to control and dancing to the puppetmasters tune? But people are all "MY SIDE GOOD YOUR SIDE BAD" like an unthinking primate instead of looking at the bigger picture. Meanwhile, Russia and China sit back and laugh at us.

[@dynamicworlds1]

@@janellek21 nice projection there. "We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority." -Texas GOP official party platform 2012

[@Circlotron]

The only time a politician tells the truth is when he calls another politician a liar.

[@MartinJuric]

but in doing so, implies that hes the honest one. I would still call that a lie by omission

[@kenmanx1298]

7:19 Well said! 👍

[@wtf2203]

As MAX would say: How can you tell when politicians are lying? Their lips are moving.

[@nilonlamarhaganjr.3394]

One of the characters on an old-time radio comedy defined the word politics as "many blood-sucking creatures," (polyticks) if I remember correctly.

[@jessicadavis3989]

This sounds like an old wise quote

[@CampElk]

I’m a high school teacher. This is a great resource! I can use it when I teach a unit on propaganda and advertising.

[@ntal5859]

So the Safe and Effective Campaign ???

[@bigbadvoodooMAGAdaddy]

So, will you be using the Glittering Generality That the "LGBTQ is all about love?" Just wondering if you've made all the connections to the current propagandist movement, what say you?

[@bigbadvoodooMAGAdaddy]

"persuade people to believe something, do something, or buy something" sounds eerily similar to the Democratic party doesn't it? Trump doesn't make propaganda, Trump listens to constituents needs and responds to their wishes, his Ideas are traditional and faith based where allowable and whereas Democrats are idealistic and their ideas untested and unproven but spoken of as If they've been for a thousand years....

[@beebee2731]

Not in a red state.

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

You will be fired if you show this in a Florida classroom. Our dictator will not allow it.

[@kpatterson7848]

In 2010 when I taught MS English, we had an entire unit to teach this. Now, I go to several schools in the district to work with teachers and I have yet to see this in the curriculum. It’s such a shame how overt the intentions of the powerful are.

[@shaneallred3884]

They removed civics and critical thinking from the school system for a reason!

[@seanparker4461]

Gotta push them buttons like good trained monkeys! Or whatever it is they're after now.

[@jeremiahfoster5810]

I was forced to take civics class in which they told us about various propaganda techniques and you sir are victim of one.

[@firemonkey1015]

@@jeremiahfoster5810That’s incredibly rare, don’t act like this applies to the majority of the US. I’m in Phoenix, one of the biggest US cities yet none of my 4 highschools taught anything remotely similar to this. If they did, they’d *never* focus on the US tactics, only the foreign ones or historical ones from whom they want you to hate. It’s selective bias.

[@KamiNoBaka1]

@@firemonkey1015 I guess Arizona schools suck ass, because I'm in Houston and we still have a civics class (though some school districts call it government) that teaches about propaganda. It is only one semester though, and propaganda is just a small part of the class.

[@thelelanatorlol3978]

@@jeremiahfoster5810 It's not propaganda to realize why the tools to identify and fight propaganda (education on how to identify and look past propaganda) was removed from compulsory education. It's pretty simple actually, it makes propaganda more effective. If you were responding to a deleted comment, my bad.

[@cqllel5186]

Every message should be met with 3 questions: 1. What do they want me to feel? 2. What do they want me to do? 3. Who gains by me feeling 'this' or doing 'this'?

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

Cui bono, as the Romans used to say...

[@KAT-dg6el]

Churches, what do they want me to feel? Sinful, guilty What do they want me to do? Give them money. Beg for forgiveness. Who benefits? The church.

[@cqllel5186]

@@KAT-dg6el Yeah churches serve no purpose. Just religious nonsense. God's Word (Bible) and man's religion are 2 completely seperate things. Man worships man's religion. There is naught but Pride in one's own religion smh. All religion is demonic

[@Publius-24]

​@@KAT-dg6elWhat do climate change activists want you to feel? Sinful and guilty. What do they want? Money and power.

[@kono5933]

​@@Publius-24they don't want you to feel sinful and guilty lmao, you would only assume that if you feel called out for being a corporate shill who doesn't want to let go of his blood money 😂 They want you to feel angry at capitalists and nations who have simply ignored the issue until it is now unsolvable and idiots like you come to this of all videos and demonstrate that you fell for boomer grade propaganda 😂

[@jasonmcgarry4383]

I used this video in my Civics class. We connected it to modern day propaganda. It was great.

[@tesscastro2652]

You are an Enlightening Teacher. Love and Light and Peace to you ✨️

[@GemstonePhilosophy]

The tactics haven't changed much. These were tried and true methods that are just as effective in the 21st century.

[@slayer9966]

babylon

[@JDMumma]

Great! Any results to report?

[@bethshebas]

I wish I had a teacher like you Now class, what kind of propaganda was that? Honesty

[@ab6565]

Thank you for taking the time to share this video.

[@garyholveck5156]

I'm 76 and remember seeing that film in 1963-64 in high school. Very informative and helped me become more of a discerning thinker. We need more of this kind of teaching. Propaganda is not a bad-term, but one that requires examination and analysis.

[@nunyabiznez6381]

I'm 63 and forgot that we saw this film in 7th grade civics in 1972 and again in 10 grade civics in 1976. Our final year of high school Civics was actually called "Voter Education" since it was expected that everyone would register to vote prior to graduation. That year we had an updated version of this film in color with different actors. I remember it was a nearly identical script though but added references to communism where this film puts emphasis on what the nazis did.

[@craigkling5125]

I'm 78 saw much of the same. It did not seem to stick on much of those who saw the same thing I did. What is really needed is for folks to attend salesmanship classes. That is where one learns to convince folks that they really need some crap that they have been doing just fine without. Does not make difference what one's product is, there is same technique for selling kitchen appliance as for selling politician.

[@mhordijk0871]

​@@craigkling5125 Exactly this.

[@cherylefunz7789]

Democrats have certainly mastered the art of Propaganda. It's a shame Trump isn't a dramatic propagandist. He doesn't have the guile to prop up a fraud by telling kind lies.

[@satisfied656]

Well, if people are educated enough and build up a bit of #CommonSense, the disaster called #DonaldTrump never would have happen to America!🤔Sometimes people had to eat poop to learn their lessons😏

[@a88aiello]

Our political class has systematicly weakened our education system to prevent educators from teaching this kind of critical thinking.

[@Mark-in8ju]

So abolish both!

[@JC-Utopic-Gauntlet]

@@Mark-in8ju we just need to cut everything outside of the schools.

[@JC-Utopic-Gauntlet]

@@Mark-in8ju pay teachers 200K and allow some of the smartest people in the country to interface with the children and parents to determine education.

[@Lem0nsquid]

The educators belong to them

[@InnaVitamina777]

Sheep are easier to heard when they all stay on one side...that you direct.

[@Shermanbay]

They didn't use the term back then, but this film is trying to educate us on "critical thinking."

[@perrymalcolm3802]

Critical Thinking Theory?! Oh NO!!! Not around these here parts!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@tedpeterson1156]

@@perrymalcolm3802 Critical thinking. Critical theory is a different animal.

[@bongabeer2686]

@@tedpeterson1156 theoretically that is a critical comment. ;p

[@clemfarley7257]

Yes. This is an attempt to see reality and judge it. Not to construct it or deny the good is possible.

[@bongabeer2686]

@@clemfarley7257i believe this video is an attempt to tell us that they got a better education in the 50's

[@Neudezign]

"Get as many different points of view as you can..." truer words... We all need to be reminded to get outside of our echo-chambers and personal bubbles. We all need to learn to not be afraid to see something from someone else's perspective. What a great video, more kids and adults need to see this and hopefully learn from it.

[@sgtfury1980]

During Water Gate we had a teacher that would bring in a couple of newspapers and we would read and discuss the news of the day on Water Gate. He never once told us what to think, he just taught us to think.

[@decisivedecision]

That's right.

[@Thecouchpatatoshow]

I think Hillary Clinton framed Nixon on that one

[@serpentines6356]

He was a very good teacher. Notice, as the schools become more "lefty" these days, the kids are becoming more dumbed down.

[@rjmaxx1258]

I don't really get why it was a big deal. Far worse happening today. I guess it was a slippery slope though.

[@ryanhicks3080]

@@ThecouchpatatoshowThank you for providing an example of propaganda.

[@zinaustro]

I had similar lesson in eight grade in the 1970's. We spent a week learning to deconstruct and critically think about ads and politics. Hopefully they're still doing this in most schools. Critcical thinking is a major source of America's strength. Sadly many politicians want to quash it in our schools nowadays.

[@jeanjaz]

I did also. I learned a lot in that segment of our class! Taught it to my homeschooled kids. My poor kids though. We didn't watch tv, but we did watch videos and DVDs and I would watch with them and point out different things. Not just logic fallacies, but also manipulation, or poor decisions, etc.. Like watching "that's so Raven" where the father was embarrassed to own up to a mistake to his daughter. Or Hannah Montana, where she and her dad were lying to each other. My daughter: Can we just watch the movie this time, Mom? Me: If you'll find at least one bad decision (or whatever - depending on the movie) at the end. My daughter: *eye roll*

[@elpacho....9254]

Yea right

[@TriumphantDisease]

@@elpacho....9254quit your moaning, liberal.

[@kamaeq]

They've been squashing logic and reason for decades.

[@Riverrockphotos]

Nope they are not.

[@TastySurrealBowl]

Nearly 80 years later and these simple concepts haven’t reached so many Americans? “If you aren't growing and evolving, you're standing still, and the rest of the world is surging ahead.”

[@eiwo323s]

The ironic fact is that most of the world bought into American propaganda including the those that have migrated here.

[@Darren_McGovern-ROF]

That’s how they keep you distracted.

[@Pekka.Pekka.1296]

That happened. The movie Idiocracy is finally got the "documentary" status in the USA.

[@user-dv6gt5iw4b]

@@Pekka.Pekka.1296 looking down from 30,000 feet, Idiocracy was underselling it.

[@ebinrock]

It's because they stopped showing these cheesy films ha ha!

[@sumbuddy4088]

Learned this type of stuff in my high school civics class, which I had to choose to join. I’m absolutely dumbfounded as to why my school didn’t consider it mandatory.

[@seandobbins2231]

It's generally determined by the state education board so it depends on your state.

[@AlanStange]

Civics, economics and law, three critical areas relegated to elective in our high schools. But of course, language, maths, and science are requirements for graduation and higher education in my jurisdiction.

[@veilmontTV]

They want people vulnerable to propaganda

[@mervyncrowley4427]

They didn't teach this when I was in school and I suspect that they quit this type of teaching because you can't fix stupid.

I got it in the "gifted" class. I assume the "un-gifted" kids never got it.

[@silvertbird1]

Very interesting, from a time when young people were taught to think, not what to think. Equally impressed by the diction and elocution.

[@massimo4307]

Let's be real here. Back then they were concerned with what they deemed the "bad" propraganda. The government was just fine letting it's own propaganda slide under the radar.

[@thinkcentre2974]

They are actors: trained to pronounce words in English, use proper techniques for breathing, pausing, project their voice, articulate

[@zvishineweather8962]

@@thinkcentre2974, don't forget the writers!

[@johntodd6413]

Many issues of today are thought through critically, but our science is different and it reflects our logic; like how people kept referencing everything to machines when they were new. We inherited a science with all the easy answers gone, everything left takes group efforts, public funding and a hard focus on truth; all while being sold the idea that our geniuses did it themselves, with their money and then their "products" are just lies. With all that, is it a wonder why we're anti-capitalist socialists?

[@McCucumber]

It's going on to this day, a society full of people that know WHAT to think, just not HOW to think.

[@Thr3-Words]

Not American, but in public school we learned about propaganda, statistics manipulation and spotting logical fallacies. I'm naturally naive I think, so learning about this stuff so early in life has been incredibly useful!

[@bongabeer2686]

geneticly guileless

[@YautjaHunter3]

I live in the US, I was lucky enough to have a 6th grade science teacher that spent 2 weeks on propoganda techniques. I dont remember anything else from her class that class, but I'm certain I got the most imporatant lesson. To this day I recoil at bandwagon style ads in particular.

[@Thr3-Words]

@@bongabeer2686 I mean, that must definitely be a thing, right?

[@kathleenferguson3296]

American here. An Old one. We were taught critical thing and all about propaganda by the Jesuits. It backfired on them, though. We were so good at critical thinking and logic, that we no longer accepted religious fairy tales. Bummer.

[@Thr3-Words]

@@kathleenferguson3296 😆

[@davidraymer397]

Back when American students were considered intelligent enough to learn difficult truths.

[@subcitizen2012]

Perhaps that assumption on their intellect was misguided. Look at what they grew up to become. Subsidized retirees that don't question difficult truths.

[@Saintlawrence100]

Truth in your comment…well said.

[@Sd-yo2kd]

​@@subcitizen2012another common propaganda technique is to use vague generalizations in order to discredit those you disagree with

[@theturquoisedream9244]

Now its alternative facts, conspiracy theories, and forced evangelical theology.

[@seanmc7128]

I guess all of that was lost starting in the 60s

[@FactbasedReality0421]

Propaganda are now called alternate facts. Thanks Donny.

[@MrSpherical]

Super informative and concise!

[@ThePenguinChannel1279]

You know the video will be good if mrspherical comments on it

[@darkscythe3874]

Yooo mr spherical!

[@usmanfaisal2005]

I did not know you were here mr spherical

[@corfile3869]

Didn’t expect you to be here

[@susangirardi3655]

No. Nobody wants critical thinking kids anymore. They grow up to be critical thinking adults. Critical thinkers are harder to control.

[@zerospace101]

I am raising my kids to be critical thinkers but God damn is it hard to do. I hope it clicks sooner than later

[@ahhhreelmonsters366]

@@zerospace101 "clicks"?... sounds reactive instead of proactive... 🤔... stop lying 🤣, you trying to bring them back from stupid 🤣

[@zerospace101]

@@ahhhreelmonsters366 I see it is already too late for you. Kids do not understand these things or understand critical thinking all that well at that age or is that info dump too much for your addled brain?

[@emilydavidson8844]

All planned by the government

[@MixedChick1]

True

[@knelson3484]

This could have be done today. Very relevant to our current political climate.

[@bgarri8001]

I'll agree with you, and also replace the word could with should.

[@debracisneroshhp2827]

@K Nelson, I'll go further by stating, "global climate"! 😺

[@laumarlopez8417]

Yes, it should!

[@lakeracer8453]

For me, the point is this film was teaching youngsters critical thinking. That's been slowly lessened until isn't taught in public schools at all today. Hence we are in the mess we're in.

[@yonathan4796]

It still is in fact our CIA, FBI, DNC, GOP, DOE, DOD & NSA have MASTERED PROPAGANDA today, Just look at The BLM movement, LGBTQ+(ALL THE WEIRDOS IN THE WORLD) & MAGA.

[@donnarichardson7214]

1:11 love it that 70 years ago "Real American" also meant "arrogant anti-intellectual." Nothing, nothing ever changes.

[@valerief1231]

And somehow it also insinuates that the other guy is NOT as real as Cooper, the bold font says Cooper is the realest, and his competitors patriotism is lacking I suppose.

[@franciasii2435]

When it's the enemy, you say they're delusional. When it's you, you're a visionary. "Card-stacking" is something i will hold with me from now on. Now i have a good word for it.

[@GoogleIsTooInvasive]

Ecclesiastes

[@Taylorblure]

@@GoogleIsTooInvasivenothing under the sun is new

[@michaelnorris6280]

No one said that or thinks that.

[@cuominmann]

The propaganda today is a hundred times worst

[@misterkid]

It's just because there's a hundred more avenues for them to target you, and people are on average significantly less aware of propaganda techniques. It's really all the same in the end.

[@carnageasada1]

Right! They are labeling Trump worse than Hitler. It’s incredible. How could he possibly be worse - even on par! - with Hitler? That’s insane. Nearly all mainstream news media spouts this garbage propaganda at us. How could they possibly disagree with a young man trying to shoot him when all that is on the news is how horrific the nation will be if Trump is president again? They are breeding hate toward a group of people that never did anything close to fascism. We have lost our minds.

[@FocusingOnChrist]

They’ve had a few decades to refine their technique.

[@blindjustice8718]

Propaganda is as simple as a single loaded word in a headline. "Trump makes unfounded claims of fraud in 2020 election." Followed by failure to look into the tons of evidence while declaring there is no evidence of fraud.

[@kdcats4092]

The propaganda is basically the same as always, new words maybe but same technique and reasons. The difference is the media assisting in hiding the truth from people. There have always been those who didn't try searching out the truth but if one tried looking for the truth you could eventually find it. Right now we have media, being backed by those who desire to have power over people, hiding the truth, denying the truth and in the case of social media at times scrubbing past records that show the truth from their websites. Years ago I was in a media class where we were given an assignment to listen to 2 or more media sources national news broadcasts to see the difference in their telling national stories of one day. Both would lead with the same story but told from slightly different angles. I suggest you go to 2 or more web browsers and put in the same search and look at the results. You will find some are hiding articles they don't want you to see while still being thought of as excellent sources of information by everyone because print media is nearly obsolete now so research not using web browsers is relying on only out of date media.

[@dbentleyto95]

It should be done today. We used to have discussions in our high schools, at least in civics classes and debate as well. To me, it is very important to encourage critical thinking. If this was continued, we wouldn't be in such a mess socially.

[@andreasobuaculla9511]

am in ireland this many years from Canada though we had civics from the very first year at school,all the way to 12,maybe thats why Canadians are boring,give me boring every day!the likes of trump when he spouted on about shit hole countries,that was a red flag for his projectionism,and hes done it if the likes of him and his harem,of freaks on brooms dont get stopped,america will be a total shit hole,

[@dbentleyto95]

@jacobmarley6781 Glad to hear they are still available, but sad to hear it us only for a select few.

[@Steve-qt9ce]

Yeah, i dont think they teach actual Civics anymore. Maybe some private schools.

[@James-hm9on]

You never hear a well informed competent debate on topics that are important to people , just a bunch of one liners and simplistic old talking points

[@peggynulsen1365]

I learned this stuff in 8th grade, and more in 9th grade speech class. That would have been 1967, 1968. This topic should be in all school curriculum for all students and reinforced whenever relevant. Results of not understanding.....just look around to any social media or other platforms... rampant propaganda everywhere masquerading as "journalism".

[@GemstonePhilosophy]

To be fair, I know I was given lessons and literature on propaganda in high school (2010). The thing is, I don't feel like it was a very in depth education, but I retained the literature and studied it. It was the exact same list of techniques this video has discussed. It's kind of crazy how my peers didn't absorb this information, and despite how many times I've tried to teach people about this, even sharing the literature I saved from high school, most people don't understand the danger of not knowing this information. We are fooled daily. Stay vigilant.

[@AR-rg2en]

Yeah theh teach these stuff, it's a matter of absorbing it.

[@hdhellion4128]

Keep sharing anyway!

[@Jblast252]

this is why well skilled teachers are needed because they can teach a rock how to do math and think for themself

[@user-kb8qw7dy4t]

I mean, it's only high school. You'd take more in-depth courses on the subject in college. Too many people these days consider college a means to employment, but the real purpose is to get a higher education.

[@williamrgutrich7694]

Your observations describe, " Ignorance is bliss."

[@proberts34]

Thanks for posting this video. While many of the comments lament the state of education and critical thinking here in the 21st Century, I find it heartening that this video has garnered 2 million views, 70,000 likes, and over 9,500 comments. 🙂

[@rainbowsuspendrs]

And I bet most of the viewers were not trumpers. They don't like things to rock their boat or beliefs.

[@davidhitchen5369]

It's cool because it's timeless. The ideas presented are as true now as they were when it was made. They ought to show it to high school kids now.

[@uweschroeder]

Today's highschool kids would probably ignore the boring old video and check out their social media accounts consuming some propaganda on their phones during the video.

[@jeanjaz]

They wouldn't really get it and would be too busy making fun of the clothes, hair, acting, etc.

[@johncherish7610]

They won't teach this in schools these days. The schools are now indoctrination centers for socialist and communist ideas. This is one of the platform points of communism to gain control of what is taught in schools so that these ideas take root and replace parents as the final authorities of what is good and bad

[@seth7745]

The constitution is timeless as well. Those who say otherwise are feeding you propaganda.

[@seth7745]

Thats because human nature never changes.

[@DevineInnovations]

People should know about propaganda and how it works. But the most import thing is acknowledging that you are not immune to falling for it.

[@WhoJustFatposted]

Immunity to propaganda, like your own body's immune system, is to be sharpened, fought for, and most importantly, it is still vulnerable to pathogens not yet contacted.

[@DevineInnovations]

@@WhoJustFatposted That's a good way to put it. Did you write that or is it a quote?

[@WhoJustFatposted]

@@DevineInnovations I wrote it

[@hypermangi8265]

@@DevineInnovations "Immunity to propaganda, like your own body's immune system, is to be sharpened, fought for, and most importantly, it is still vulnerable to pathogens not yet contacted." - RoninTails 2023

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​​​@@hypermangi8265wonder if ppl will make this quote famous, like other youtube comments Btw his KZbin channel name is well..... Makes the channel handle in the credits more decent 😂

[@valentinlopez6189]

This should be updated and shown to students just before they are legally eligible to vote.

[@aaron___6014]

We could show it to "migrants" aka illegals who will also soon be able to vote. Even though they aren't citizens.

[@WaterPickle]

How about from birth

[@apIthletIcc]

*from just before they are legally allowed to breathe 😂

[@richardzakh7209]

at this point to any adult now as well, because people fell asleep and being so naive

[@Retnaburn]

Unfortunately, the teachers are peddling their own propaganda and don't want the kids to be educated about it. It interferes with their grooming.

[@billwilliamson1506]

I learned these in Argumentation. A completely life changing course. It structured our thinking to be more critical and analytical of claims as well as how to classify them. Absolutely should be a senior level course.

[@jffgtwn9114]

wow. a teacher teaching a student critical thinking. could use more of that today

[@DDumbrille]

Except without the hammy acting.

[@BrewsterMcBrewster]

Good job, David Hoffman! This is a timeless piece for all humans on the planet.

[@debraallen63]

We don't live on a Planet.... Earth is Flat and enclosed with a Firmament.

[@BlueWingedRino]

Excellent video. We are sorely lacking in critical thinking skills at this point in time.

[@nancyneyedly4587]

We are currently plagued by a wave on anti-intellectualism.

[@I_am_Raziel]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWqxoIR-nM-AlZI

[@doctorjekyll6125]

Everything from 1963 and onward has been a downward spiral. Wonder why?

[@Psy0psAgent]

​@@doctorjekyll6125I have insights

[@wallstreettrader1]

​@Psy0psAgent Winning comment from one under the name of PsyOpsAgent. Lol You win the internet for the day.

[@pasilu007]

We are stuck under two propaganda parties. 😢 😢

[@hvacguygarrison3976]

Feel better about the party that signs a bill securing free speech and prevents the government from limiting it

[@rainbowsuspendrs]

I agree but at least one seems to be on the side of human rights.

[@kukukachu]

We are manipulated CONSTANTLY, but being aware of this makes it harder for that manipulation to work. Knowledge really is power.

[@lgrantnelson2863]

I remember taking a class where we talked about advertisements convincing people of a need they never had before and how people are programed by repetition and reward. My father was in communications when he was in the Navy and said, "What you see in the news is not what really happened". Excellent video.

[@Timothy--vb7rr]

Just like the CV ads for free food, free jabs, enter the New York lottery and the list goes on.

[@hunterkudo9832]

Just like the current push for representation and gender expression lol. As if people were not able to be themselves before this. Ludicrous.

[@nathanbond8165]

Oh yeah I've known this for a long time people don't realize that number one the news is propaganda and is a secret branch of government and I've also known that for a long time Hollywood is also a branch of government Hollywood and movies and TV shows are used to influence people into the direction that the government would like people to go and is a way for the government to basically tell people the truth without officially telling you the truth why do you think Star Trek exist? And all of these movies throughout the decades about aliens and space travel and excetera it's because it's a way for the government to basically tell people that it's true we're not alone in the universe is brimming with life and our governments work constantly with different forms of alien life but they can't have the president of the United States in the Oval Office just come right out and say it officially and so they slowly clue Us in to the real reality of life through movies cinema television pop culture😂😂😂😂😂

[@BabsKaz]

And consumerism

[@davidgough3512]

My high schooling was late 60's early 70's. We learned to examine and critique advertising.. practically sacrilege nowadays. I can hardly believe Thoreau was included in our literature.. unthinkably dissident by "modern"standards. Later, Thoreau was eliminated and soft drink machines were installed in schools. The corporate line of Idiocracy has since been in charge.

[@victoriagoforth9748]

Unfortunately nowadays, no one wants to know the truth.

[@Kinkle_Z]

This is great! We got a class in Propaganda too at my SoCal high school in the mid-60s. But by then it had deteriorated into "Propaganda Techniques used by the USSR." The teacher was listing and expounding on all their devious, malicious techniques and about 15 minutes into it, I started thinking, "Hey... I wonder if our country is doing this to us?!" I wish I had had the courage to raise my hand and ask that question.

[@Technichian462]

[edited] Sorry, I dont remember the name of the law [Smith-Mundt act of 1948] or when it was introduced. But it made using propaganda in the United States illegal. But! Ohbama to the rescue. [Smith-Mundt act of 2013] He got rid of that law. We dont need no pesky laws getting in the way of the ‘message’.

[@slm_766]

@@Technichian462 How was the term "domestic propaganda" defined in the Smith-Mundt Act? AND what were the arguments used by the Act's opponents who advocated the newer version passed in 2013?

[@Technichian462]

@@slm_766 Sorry, I dont really remember the particulars about it. But I do remember that ‘Voice of America’ was not allowed to broadcast within the United States. It could only broadcast into other countries. My guess, particularly into East Germany or the Soviet Union. Later in to Korea and then Vietnam. That restriction was lifted in the 2013 act. Funny thing, I seem to remember the Smith-Mundt act being repealed. Must be one of those ‘Mandela’ effects.

[@woxyroxme]

I went to school in the olden days, the teacher told us we lived in the freest country in the world, I asked her why it was illegal to own gold (actual law at the time)

[@unicornosaurus514]

Yes it's funny how even at the same time that this great and informative video was being made, the Soviet men and women that helped us defeat fascism in Europe just 3 years earlier were already being rebranded as godless drones, scheming to stamp out all freedom on earth.

[@hyattwarris]

Can confirm I was taught very similar material in the 80s in middle school. Built an instant distrust of advertisers that I cherish today.

[@anarchords1905]

Me too. In Scotland, in the 90's though.

[@melissagerber7231]

For my husband and, me, it was reading Mad Magazine,in the ' sixties and 'seventies.

[@jasonhughes2305]

My mother, who went to high school in 50s told me about this book The Hidden Persuaders they read about these marketing techniques political parties use to sell you ideas. Highly recommended - they should put it back on required reading.

[@seanparker4461]

Thank you for this comment. I've got a hard cover in my eBay cart now.

[@sxwrtr918]

My mom worked in advertising. I still have that book, which I remember being in our living room bookcase in the '60s. Classic.

[@krisrhood2127]

I remember that book

[@HepCatJack]

There's Influence by Cialdini as well, Propaganda by Edward Bernays. Some of the techniques are used in sales, cults and pyramid schemes.

[@ssawyerss]

David, Thank you for posting these reminders of the past. Hope you're feeling better and get well soon.

[@tomdalzell2407]

This film may seem outdated, but it is, in fact, quite sophisticated.

[@yesorlando05]

Excellent video. This would’ve been the time frame my parents were in school. The video didn’t take sides, it strictly talked about propaganda in a factual way and how to use critical thinking skills. Not what to think, but the tools for how to think. Thanks for posting.

[@davidannderson9796]

Thank you for airing this video! We need it so badly today in America- this video can do a lot of good! (not least to help restore not only critical thinking but gentlemanly conduct in American politics! To help people learn to once again be kind to both sides, for we will not be provoked so easily!)

[@stubbarn]

6:53 This is so apt for today.

[@knelson3484]

This is excellent information. Thank you David. ❤

[@boanerges6886]

Why are they not teaching this in our schools today? So that we will swallow the Propaganda.

[@Hope-qy8dr]

The last time I checked most children have parents. What is their role? Why do the schools have to teach everything. We are a nation of children living in foster homes and are being raised by the media and the education system.

[@SBluesBrotherhood]

They're too busy teaching them that there is no God and Evolution is how we all got here, and that they can pick whatever gender that they want to be.... Tim Walz is pitting tampons in boy's bathrooms in schools in Minnesota....

[@Libertad59]

​@@Hope-qy8dr bingo! Education starts at home!

[@OliviaKenoyer-qm3oz]

They are teaching the propaganda

[@eiwo323s]

But this is on both sides. The democratic party pushes many things that are not fact based, especially the transgender push. I usually leaned for rights for all, but it has gotten out of hand. The Republican party has went completely polar also with their propaganda schemes of denial.

[@WilliamAlanPhoto]

This should be mandatory!

[@harrisonholthaus581]

I had a teacher teach us about propaganda despite it not being on the curriculum. Years later I still annoy my friends and relatives pointing things out.

[@Heather_Morgan]

I was taught most of these terms in my high school US Cultures class. My favorite term is "Glittering Generalities". I've tried pointing this out to many people over the years, but no one seems to have heard of it before and some even seemed to think i made it up. I'm SOOOO glad to finally see it in this video. Now i can show those people this video and they'll see Glittering Generalities is a real thing and it's been a term long before i was born, so i clearly did not make it up. 😆

[@KhattaRapidus]

You're going as Heather Morrigan for Halloween?

[@reader4111]

The most egregious Glittering Generality was Barack Hussein Obama's Hope & Change... it meant NOTHING!!!!! And nowhere is it written that "change" is a positive thing. An "improvement" is a positive thing; but "change" is a weasel word, when used as in that slogan. And "hope"?? WTH does THAT MEAN as far as hiring the CEO of the USA? It's meaningless.

[@jedi10101]

maybe the reason no one seems to have heard of it is because the present terminology is "overgeneralization, hasty generalization, faulty generalization". yes, they all mean the same thing as "glittering generalities".

[@danatowne5498]

@@jedi10101 , I think "glittering generalization" is a much more accurate term than any of the others. Consider "over, hasty, and faulty" are all generalized terms themselves where the word "glittering" denotes something shiny (and hard to shake off).

[@jedi10101]

@@danatowne5498 subjective

[@autodidactic278]

I have seen this my whole life. Both sides play this game. Unfortunately, media feeds into it and when you stand up against it, you are shunned, blocked on social media. Etc.....

[@pameversole5886]

Aww yes, the “cancel”movement.

[@vaahtobileet]

It's quite a uniquely American thing to so casually reference "both sides", as if there are only two sides to anything. This is the lens through which so many in that country see the world, often without ever stopping to think that they're even doing it and how it's not necessarily very normal. I don't mean that as an insult. This way of thinking is being exported to the globalized Western world, and I see it all the time here in Finland now. Social media plays a big part in helping spread it, and American social issues in general, even if they wouldn't be the most relevant here. The "two sides" thinking is a result of the two-party system in the USA, obviously, and how issues become politicized in terms of us/them, where if one side picks a stance on something, the other side kind of by default has to adopt the opposing stance, whether it makes sense or not. The other side is often framed as evil, even. It's different with a multiparty coalition-government system which necessarily fosters at least some consensus and low partisan hostility. Both systems mold society in their own ways.

[@leathleyg5995]

Yeah..... "both sides"...... You can travel and visit Russia, Ukraine, North Korea, China, etc. Or...you can believe the propaganda that "your side" feeds you and be a sheep.

[@PhilBagels]

Even outside of politics, the media has its own agenda: ratings! They use propaganda to hype up whatever the news story is, to feed fear, anger, and other emotions - to get more readers/viewers/listeners. I live in California and I occasionally get calls from relatives in other states desperately asking, "Are you OK?" I say, "Why wouldn't I be OK?" They heard about the earthquake on the news. I usually say, "What earthquake?" The media hypes it up like everyone in on the West Coast is dead, when the earthquake happened out in the high desert and no one in LA even felt it. Those who were close may have felt a good shaking, but then it stopped and they carried on with their lives. Just one of many, many examples.

[@bobbyd5791]

Yeah in college for logical fallacies, presidential debates are perfect for studying logical fallacies.😂

[@SKOOKM]

They used to try to teach you how to think, now they teach you what to think.

[@jamesrecknor6752]

We must have only Party approved education for Correct Speech and Allowed Thinking

[@VictorAvera]

Question everything and everyone.

[@michaelkraus4135]

That is theeeee DEMOCRATIC PARTY !!!

[@LRRPFco52]

They never taught the people how to think in public schools, only what to think and how to behave. John Dewey laid that out clearly in his Pedagogic Creed. He is the father of the modern public schooling system, an atheist secularist who said teachers were prophets ushering in the true kingdom of god. Weird, right?

[@sallyvernon2375]

they tell them what to think

[@Shayla-k8d]

They should be teaching this to kids and adults. 🔥 historical throwback!

[@ellasmommy9278]

I feel like this little film reel needs to be played in high schools. Now more than ever. People need to understand how they're being manipulated. And well, develop critical-thinking skills.

[@chrisbauer1925]

It basically is, or at least in 2016 it was. I was taught this exact list of techniques in public high school and had to understand all of them. It was definitely one of the more useful things I learned for my life in non-STEM classes.

[@nathanbond8165]

That is a well-reasoned well-thought-out response and I would like to see you explain that to a how'd up ginned-up angry mob of people the reason the government uses propaganda is because it works!!!!!!!

[@harry.4.2.0]

It's important but goddam it doesn't stop people drawing the wrong conclusions. Classic case is climate change,.the argument of which has been manipulated so far by the fossil fuel industry to the point where people don't even think humans can impact the climate. Even when the fossil fuel industry knew this to be true decades ago and then undertook misinformation campaigns.

[@davegutierrez3670]

The only way it will happen is as an example of disinformation

[@titusmaximus7278]

I dont think Ronny DeSantis will allow this "woke" little film to be played in Florida schools.

[@johnl1074]

I remember the "Rumors and Propaganda" training I received in USAF Basic training in 1971. It started with the trainer telling the class that there were some civilians doing damage to the base at night. Our class would be tasked with stopping this activity. It was presented in such a way as to work up anger and hostility from the entire class. We wanted to catch and punish the offenders.Then the instructor informed us that "this is how propaganda is used" to entice action desired by the perpetrator. He then went on to teach info very similar to this video. Old but good stuff that is most likely NOT taught today. BUT still used intensely. From my old eyes THIS is what the MSM is doing to us today. Wake up, don't woke up.

[@seanparker4461]

I was in Army basic training in the 2000's. Not only did they not teach any of this, I think they replaced the MSG in our 'hot A's' with propaganda.

[@stevendefehr4393]

Thank you sir !

[@2017_K___Booth]

Like Bush after the planes hit the trade center. That seemed to work.

[@cHAOs9]

​@kbooth3528 exactly. He inspired many people to support us attacking a country that wasn't responsible for the attack. Pretty much 100% of what politicians say is propaganda. All they do is what the corporations paid them to do (campaign donations etc). Then they spend all their remaining time convincing everyone that what they are doing is somehow good for you.

[@Pearmesan]

I'm gay.

[@asamcbrez4930]

Thank you Mr. Hoffman for reminding me that in my civics class of 1966 we learned about propaganda and it added subjects such as projection, which is very common today.

[@lenablochmusic]

Bernays invented a method called "mirror propaganda", it is when you accuse your victim of what you are actually doing to him. Serves two purposes. If you accuse him of trying to oppress or subjugate you, while trying to oppress and subjugate him, first of all people will stop believing all his claims that you are oppressing him. Second, they will see your victim as a lying and mean person. Accuse your neighbor of what you are doing to him, as quickly as possible. It always works in American foreign politics: accuse China or Russia of imperialism and colonialism - works like a charm. America is a country of prison slave labor? Accuse China of doing precisely that to Uighurs. And so on. Goebbels also loved this method.

[@lenablochmusic]

@@baxpiz1289 nobody said it was forbidden, precisely. By the way, everything Hitler did, was also formally legal, as per German laws.

[@atomicbong7597]

@@lenablochmusic That is all true and well - but if it was at all to be countered with logic - one may pick up the concept of anyone revealing their own flaws by projecting them on others - perhaps lack the cognitive insight and foresight to be accused of a cerebrally construed strategy in depth. Perhaps it is well enough to become aware of ignorance - and that it is not smart - to be envied - but better understood. In self, in others - in us. Perhaps - if common retardation - from which I claim we all own a nudge and a whim - was such a crime - who among us is without guilt? :) I say - for whomever the default mindset at birth isn't uninformed - observe and embrace in awe - the level of blindness that keep man from doing what is best for the, their fellow man - and all who come after him. Mercy - is key. "Forgive him - for he know not what he does" - Carpenter on a cross I am an idiot - with moments of clarity. I don't know, and that sums up core essence of my knowledge. But I don't envy anyone who reveal their evil plot and end up failing and there is no one left around them to blame. In the end - I look forward to the day when I can express my gratitude to the brilliant sensible ppl whom I lacked wits or insight to be worthy to show my true admiration back in the early school days :) I have every faith - that if I can expand my mind to at least sniff at the horizon of sensible intellect - they can sense the spirit of their inner forgotten ape - that is one with the divine in me :) Self-knowledge - owenrship of the enemy within - the best ally and lifelong friend :) God is a comedian - tragedy is its setup. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZjdgqh7ZtWFZ9k Love is key. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZjdgqh7ZtWFZ9k

[@toddshockley]

Everything a conservative says is a projection.

[@sherryblack8942]

​@@lenablochmusicAccusing others of the very thing that you do to cause harm is consistently used by and one of the favorite techniques of Donald Trump. If you hear him accuse someone of something, you can bet he has done that very thing; ironically, he accuses people of the bad things he does that he's most proud of. It takes creative thought to accuse someone of something you don't understand, after all, and that man is devoid of creativity!

[@nofascists]

Today's voter: "This hurts my head. I just want someone to tell me what makes me feel good and reinforce my hate and contempt. I don't care about facts or reality."

[@ctrlaltshift]

This is a brilliant learning tool! All of the methods used in propaganda are laid out in a simple and easy to understand way. And they make sure to indicate that propoganda's not always false, but it has a purpose that should be considered. I can absolute see this being used in classes today, as it should be! Either this or something similar. Thanks for sharing this David!

[@TheParadiseParadox]

The young fellow is right in saying it's fascinating to study propaganda. Whenever someone is trying to fool me or persuade me, or even scam me, I find it very interesting to figure out how they're trying to do it, and how to guard myself against it. In extreme cases, being subjected to similar, and more extreme techniques can wind up with you in a cult. So it definitely is the responsibility of every one of us to develop our discernment in this way, because we will all receive the consequences, good or bad.

[@johncomments2730]

…The “News”…

[@julieq3910]

My 4 kids are all adults now. When they were younger, I used to break down commercials and ask them, "What are they REALLY saying here?" My kids told me they appreciated that. Teach your kids to be smarter than the average bear Boo Boo. 🐻

[@earlthepearl4161]

Neutral linguistic programming, trauma based mind control, mass induced psychological warfare,..ect. Thousands years of experience to reach perfection.

[@TimCasanova]

I agree. you could end up in a cult like you could watch so much propaganda that you could end up in the maga trump cult or the democratic or republican cults..

[@dalrn4764]

I obtained my ADN in 86 and my BSN in 2000. One of the classes we were required to take was a “Critical Thinking Skills” course. Fantastic course …. The professor taught us to basically put yourself on a balcony and look at a situation from all sides ( he called it balcony thinking) We had great debates in there on A vs B in debates based off of his teaching of looking at situations from all sides. At the end of the semester he announced he was leaving and going to another University in another state … and no one was replacing him. The university had deemed the course no longer relevant ……

[@debraallen63]

Have you applied this to the Globe Earth vs Flat Earth debate?

[@LilRebelYell]

Prime example of how far we've gotten away from real education. Any imagine THIS being taught in school today? Can't have an education populace meddling in public affairs can we?

[@iamagrape8804]

This is a great video! I’m in high school currently and I must say my teachers do great at teaching us about manipulation. One of the classes I take, AP English Language and Composition does an amazing job of teaching this. So far, we’ve learned all about rhetoric, and how to use it to make a point as well as how to identify it. We’ve had to write rhetorical analysis essays about speeches, letters, etc, to see how the writer persuades. And now we’re starting to get into our argumentation unit where we use the rhetoric we’ve learned to present an argument and rebut counterclaims. And with that, we’re going in depth into logical fallacies to identify them and avoid using them. So the entirety of the class is basically identifying persuasion, learning to think on your own, and learning how to make a strong argument without using fallacies that seem logical but are truly bs.

[@seanparker4461]

You are truly lucky to go to that school. That makes my gray haired behind happy. ;)

[@stevendefehr4393]

iamagrape . I like what you have written here! I’m much older than you are and have been learning about something called… environmental social governance. ESG. It’s huge in the world now! In my opinion the biggest piece of propaganda in my lifetime. Check it out if interested. I work for a huge corporation and have watched ESG devastate our plant ! Unknown to our investors up until now. Cheers from western Canada.

[@stevendefehr4393]

Great video!!!!! Folks Look up E.S.G. ( environmental social governance) to see possibly some of the best propaganda of modern times 😊

[@wayneburgess2885]

You're very fortunate to be attending such a school. And very smart to be taking full advantage of the opportunity. But you probably won't go into politics, which is the problem.

[@HostileHairline]

I would agree this level of critical thought is only taught in AP courses. In high school I took both, non-AP was truly a joke academically in comparison. Oddly enough, we were told the AP class was brainwashing, not the regular course.

[@rodli11]

I homeschool, looks like something just got added to the curriculum. Thanks Mr. Hoffman!

[@TheMDelima]

For our homeschool curriculum too.

[@aynrandish9106]

This is the best public service message I’ve seen in years.

[@grahamfloyd3451]

Glittering Generality: Make America Great and Build Back Better

[@countronin2599]

When I was in eighth grade back in 2017, we did learn about propaganda but it was mostly about very obvious techniques used in corporate advertising. "Plain folk" and "band wagon" were the ones that we touched on the most but "card stacking" was barely touched upon. I really enjoyed this video. It was very straightforward and it managed to convey more information in 7 minutes than the school curriculum conveyed in a month. I also like how they made it very clear that propaganda can come from a variety of sources with a variety of agendas. Agendas which typically aren't insidious but are still agendas nonetheless.

[@WalterVTurner]

Ditto for concentration on corporate advertising, but our section on this was in 12th-grade English class in Mississippi in 1958. I can't recall that political propaganda was mentioned. But it has been some time....

[@andeannafarnes4719]

Thanks for letting us oldsters know schools are still doing their jobs. I agree this video is an excellent teaching tool.

[@tonedowne]

I think "card stacking" is more known as "cherry picking" these days. Or even "bad science", as it is the act of starting from a predetermined position and them working backwards from there. Finding data to back up your position and then ignoring data that doesn't.

[@countronin2599]

@@tonedowne That is true. Not to mention the less talked-about "nut-picking." I was wondering why I have never heard the term "card stacking" LOL.

[@lightyourway4929]

Thank you for sharing and hopefully they will get back to teaching this in school.

[@neilreynolds3858]

This video came out the year I was born. Schools have been spreading propaganda for as long as I've been alive instead of exposing it.

[@jessicaveylan4265]

Keep in mind these techniques have only become more sophisticated over time the more they understand about human psychology, behavior, and conditioning. It doesn't help that people offer up all their personal information through agreements by internet apps, browers, social media etc. It's a new way to study us on a more personal level.

[@assassin8636]

What's your point here a hate message on social media

[@toddbrown7142]

Jess..was very clear, you unfortunately are not. Goodnight Propaganda

[@assassin8636]

@robaudi20v like what this comment is saying doesn't make sense and it's better we learn more from internet apps browser qnd social media

[@wildfire9280]

“Judge the purpose and the techniques by the facts.” -Abraham Lincoln

[@ToneyPony]

What used to be known as "propaganda" is now called "marketing"

[@ryanodagawa]

Yea, I feel like the first one could be called Branding. Being objective,I think Trump is actually fairly effective in negative branding his opponents. That is an element of his “success“

[@dumdumnumnum6512]

@@ryanodagawaAs if Brandon is any better. The game was always rigged.

[@StephenGangi]

Ever read "The Hidden Persuaders" by Vance Packard? It's an excellent book, and it shows how pervasive propaganda (or marketing) is, and how it works. What an eye opener. It parallels this video and says the same things but in more detail.

[@FlyAlbatroz]

That's the hidden propaganda

[@rorycollin4185]

The NAZIS copied USA advertisement or marketing when they created their propaganda because they were so impressed how it got the USA population to buy things they don’t need. So more like it was marketing first and then recognized as propaganda. Zionism has had the best marketing for last 80 years convincing the western world it’s the Palestinians fault for living in the land they wish to occupy. Having the created the best propaganda machine Hollywood definitely helps.

[@suegeew9727]

Why not being done today? I believe that we are doing everything possible to stop people from critical thinking, especially in the schools (not the teachers fault, it's bigger than they are). Look at the results too, amazing st how people often blindly believe things because they've been told such. Thank you David for posting this. This and your commentary are truly eye opening.

[@bgarri8001]

Unfortunately, the status quo has always realized the value of feeding off of people's emotions. I certainly know I can fall into the trap from time to time. It doesn't just apply to politics either. Nutrition and hack diets are perfect examples of pushing propaganda to feed off of people's emotions.

[@annarodriguez9868]

@@bgarri8001 Nutrition, diet and exercise! I'm 76 and there have been so many diet fads from the 70s and they are always being recycled. The names of the diets change, I guess to catch a new generation. Lol

[@KingJT80]

Reagan's buddy roger freedman said that an educated workforce was dangerous in a letter/column so they started dismantling public education and all but eliminate pell grants for colleges around then. so now we dont get educated like this and if you wanna go to college it cost an arm and a leg to do it until you either give up or are saddled with crushing debt or both. then they blame you for you "poor financial choices"

[@Chatta-Ortega]

You know why this wouldn't fly today. People will scream "INDOCTRINATION!!!". Critical thinking is not taught anymore.

[@sparshjohri1109]

We don't need to stop people from critical thinking; the majority of people *doesn't want* to engage in critical thinking. I used to believe that everyone was able and willing to engage in critical thinking, but over the years, I've had to revise that position more and more until I've landed at the conclusion that most people don't like to think. Nothing to do with schools, it's just how people are.

[@leahe4127]

Neat dissection of information sources, discernment, and decision-making. Thanks for the documentary!

[@misterwill3625]

This was super informative while also entertaining. Thank you. This video still applies today.

[@davezima4167]

Both sides are guilty of propaganda since politics started. We need to teach our children critical thinking. Rule #1 - don't listen to politicians. Biden was originally pro-life and Trump was pro-choice. Loved the video. Especially the cameo appearance of Wally Cleaver

[@kurtisgibbs6698]

haha that's a great example. So perfect.

[@amyl3607]

Biden is still pro life but he also believes women should have control over their own bodies.

[@kade-qt1zu]

Politicians really are liars aren't they.

[@ViddyOJames]

But yet Trump hasn't actually acted "pro life" or "pro choice". His act was to let the states determine it, as they should. It's not a constitutional right to have an abortion and there's nothing you can interpret that way without the constitution losing all meaning.

[@smody121]

When the government is afraid of foreign governments, this is what we get. When it's more afraid of its own people, curiously we stop learning this stuff in schools.

[@seane6616]

Right?!

[@kolepate7057]

Astute statement fellow human

[@ranger3186]

@@seane6616 its true

[@TheGoodContent37]

Making people want to learn things like this instead of turning off their brains with social media or entertainment is the TRUE challenge.

[@assassin8636]

Uh I'm not sure if this is right to say but I mean everyone loves social media and entertainment but it's wrong to say this way edit this comment please

[@beenaplumber8379]

It's not either/or. It's a matter of recognizing the context of information. There's nothing wrong with mind-numbing entertainment. (I love Godzilla movies and scotch!) And there's nothing wrong with using social media. (We are actually using social media. Right now. KZbin IS social media.) I'm also a retired neuroscientist who teaches part-time in a middle school. There is no conflict between consuming entertainment, using social media, and finding reliable information. Today's kids are doing just fine. They're a lot more media savvy than us older people. I think their challenges are going to be much more baffling than anything my generation ever faced, but they'll face it, and they'll be better equipped than any of us are.

[@JohnJohn-zn8ib]

Need to be careful of the conspiracy mob because they are full on propaganda, trying to get you to believe in their bullshit by making up crappie alternatives to what really happened.

[@SPQR7117]

@@beenaplumber8379 Wrong. Today's kids are absolutely not doing just fine. You should have continued in saying that while the existence of social media itself isn't wrong, nor is the general consumption of it- what *will* make it wrong/bad/negative is the over-indulgence and abuse of it. You will also have to address that there are some things put on social media that aren't a net benefit to society. Boundaries and self-control matter.

[@beenaplumber8379]

@@SPQR7117 Is it your point that today's kids are lacking in boundaries and self-control? Because that couldn't be further from the truth. Of course there's bad content out there, but kids today are learning how to spot it and ignore it while many adults are just scared of it. (They teach this stuff in schools. Where do adults learn it?) They'll continue to make mistakes, as kids do, but unlike adults, they have an extraordinary capacity to learn from their mistakes as opposed to finding someone else to blame and assuming they did nothing wrong.

[@Jess-h2h4w]

Thank you for sharing ❤ I am baffled at 6:59, "if I don't learn about propaganda, it's not because there is no way to learn it". That phrase fits the current situation. Now I understand why my country is like this

[@tragicallymalicious1]

I took an applied psychology course in junior college that taught about all these things. I wish that knowledge was more widespread.

[@bobbyd5791]

Yeah I took social psychology. The textbooks chapter on decision making was basically car salesman 101. Took that class after I bought a truck when I was 21. Oh boy did they use every trick in the book. Although by today's standard, I got one hell of a deal.

[@poisenbery]

Thank you for posting this. Someone will, undoubtably, find this, and learn something.

[@cheeriothecheerio]

That would be me lol. old video are somehow better at teaching than any new material.

[@flutebasket4294]

Probably one comma too many

[@rochegriffin4]

Thank you for posting this….will share with my kids!

[@adamletts885]

It's incredible how this is still so relevant

[@jojoh8067]

This is so good. Very blatant but a great starting point for critical thinking. I can tell you that schools in the Uk DO teach kids to consider sources/biases/propaganda/agendas etc when looking at information. Also being open to changing your opinion when new information comes to light. This shouldn’t just happen at school, it should happen at home too. Through discussion and by example. Allow your kids to have different views from you. Value their opinion. Give evidence for your view. Encourage them to show you why they think you’re mistaken. Let your child see you receive new information and adjust your viewpoint accordingly.

[@zerospace101]

Considering what is happening in the UK with their "hate speech" and their laws about opinions online, I would argue that it may have been that way once, but it ain't no more.

[@kayhollings1777]

I did this really fantastic short course on critical thinking at university. Was so interesting! It went into identifying false arguments, propaganda etc, identifying and evaluating the source and content of information for purpose and bias... all kinds of things. It quickly became clear how crucial it is to have critical thinking skills in near every facet of life. Unfortunately, you can see these days more than ever that it is sorely lacking in the majority.

[@gregjones8412]

In this day and age of hyper-propaganda, this is one of the most valuable and meaningful videos on the internet.

[@pclark8672]

I think the most important part is @6:05: get as many points of view as you can.

[@kevinmccabe7263]

It really is a shame that we've done away with Civics classes in schools. And I'm not saying this as an old fuddy duddy, I'm 30 and I wish I would have had civics classes growing up.

[@cindytrayer4279]

I grew up in the 70’s and never had a civics class- it was replaced with social studies. But I can’t remember a thing about that class, probably a good thing!

[@aliannarodriguez1581]

I didn’t realize they had stopped. That’s dreadful. No wonder so many people didn’t seem to realize that Trump was breaking the social contract, the balance of power, and the whole careful framework that protects us from our own government and the rise of despots. Future presidents of any party will have more power and fewer brakes on that power. He weakened us in so many ways.

[@iamagrape8804]

In my state, taking a civics class and passing a civics exam is a requirement to graduate.

[@RhiannonFan]

Sorry to break it to you but, to a 17 year old, you are an old fuddy duddy. And yes, so am I. 🙂

[@roberts.valkyrie]

​@@cindytrayer4279 I was born in '79. We had social studies in middle school. The only thing I remember is clipping articles ('current events') from the newspaper, and that I really disliked that arrogant teacher. Lol

[@caw7007]

You have no idea how much I love this video! I wish every school taught about propaganda. The details of techniques, purpose, and recognizing motives behind the messages are spot on! Every one of us need to understand.

[@seth7745]

I don’t think it will make a difference. Schools teach about economics yet politicians still lie to the people about basic economics and get votes.

[@GreatThemeParkAdventures]

Thank you! I studied propaganda in advertising and communication when I was in college. This is a great resource and I just showed it to my kids. They found it interesting.

[@azzabar]

"Different points of view…" Boy, that doesn’t happen anymore. 😢

[@craigsurette3438]

Not only could this bit of genius be shown in schools today , it should!

[@melaniem9433]

Thanks for showing! It's still good for every student to see. I hope they have every student knowing our Bill of Rights before graduating, and replace the pledge with the Preamble💪

[@diehorribly9333]

That's crazy, thank God we don't show anything dangerous to kids these days, right?