Her Family Were Racists. She Reveals What They Were So Afraid Of

She was filmed in 1989 as part of a television series that I was making asking baby boomers to reflect back on their upbringings in the 1950s and 1960s. We selected about 200 people to interview at length from thousands and she was selected because she was such a thoughtful and kind person with an understanding, and some sympathy, for those segregationists in her family who she described as having intense fear - a fear of losing control.
All of my career of interviewing thousands of people, I never found anyone as blunt and direct describing what was her people feared so much. As she described it, her family and the South feared any change in the status quo. There were politicians - local, state and national politicians, who publicly stated these fears and fueled the flames.
She makes a statement in this interview which is much debated in the comments. that good people can be racist. She describes people who heard conspiracy theories from the Reconstruction time after the Civil War, people who saw the murder of Emmett Till as "fake news". The concept of integration, of equality and fairness and civil rights was an anathema to her people. It all frightened and they were convinced that they could stop it and return to things as they had been.
I'm sure she would not say today exactly what she said back then with all that has changed and all that has been revealed about those times and her people. I respect her courage for expressing to us what she had witnessed and experienced in the relatives in her own family and those who lived in her town including those who fueled the flames of fear and the racism that came as a result.
if you search the word "segregation" on my KZbin channel you will find more comments from others with different points of view.
Although I have not shared her name (she has not given me her permission) I want to thank her for sharing her thoughts and feelings with me.
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Thank you
David Hoffman filmmaker

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

60s presidential candidate George Wallace was called a racist. Was he? You decide - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z53OaoSjjq5np6c David Hoffman filmmaker

[@bubbathomas192]

Well david my friend: how can a person despise another because his or her skin color and call themselves a good person. This is why the script say: because iniquity shall abound 😐the love of many shall wax cold 😐 the sin of iniquity is unjust judgement and extreme wickedness. This is what wrong with people today;cant you see: you set judgement on people because the color of there skin. This is extreme wickedness. It is time to repent and get right with the Lord 🙏🙏

[@activistbook3809]

Quick answer - yep.

[@carmencortelyou9463]

I remember the sixties and George Wallace. At the very least he was a demagogue who used racist language to political advantage. Does it matter how sincere a person’s hatred is? It was sufficient - or his indifference to the plight of African-Americans in this country was sufficient. I’ve wondered the same thing about Donald Trump, and concluded it’s irrelevant. Of course, Wallace eventually repented…supposedly.

[@activistbook3809]

@@carmencortelyou9463 racism isn’t about intent

[@carmencortelyou9463]

@@activistbook3809 And I’m saying intent matters, regardless of motive. Both Wallace and Trump intended to keep black people (and others) down. Perhaps only to gain power. Perhaps because of a sincere belief in white male superiority. Either way results in racism.

[@74455776]

Imagine a group fearing unfairness and anti democracy as they're being unfair and undemocratic...that's quite something, isn't it?

[@gincream1993]

😳.

[@neilifill4819]

They probably really feared being treated the ways they treated others.

[@kay2thalay70]

Fear of retribution. Karma paranoia.

[@paradoxicalcanons]

@@neilifill4819 This right here. The fear of retribution is real.

[@Cherokee.Sunrise44]

If we look at our society today, the behavior of fear and uncertainty dominating is ever present. And then people make decisions from a place of fear and uncertainty. When we Learn from our history we can more readily recognize these same human behaviors today. But only when we Learn. These behaviors are Not exclusive to only one culture or "race" but many people today find it hard to break away from the status quo, even if they know better. Many.People.Today.

[@judiththomas7431]

The most truthful thing she revealed was that many racists became physically ill at the thought of others gaining any fairness or equity. WOW!!!

[@davruck1]

amen. the true test of character is how you feel when someone else does well. if your upset you need to check yourself. these people cant stand to see others do well.

[@HuemorDGAP]

🤣🤣🤣🤣it's so sick, they shouldn't be in charge of anything!!! Wow for real!!

[@ludovicusbathory1715]

That is honestly funny. Racist: 😨:I can not believe people with a different skin tone then me now have equal rights. 😱What is the world coming to? 😵How could this happen why would god allow this? 🤢If they have rights it will destroy the very fabric of reality. Me a black dude living life: 😃good afternoon. Racist: 😳😨😰 Me: 😐you ok? Racist: 😡western civilization is dead. Me: 🤣ok dude bye.

[@bengozzy408]

Vampires

[@powerbad696]

This fear has driven people to do the most DEMONIC acts of violence and killings against innocent,black citizens in america since Adolph Hitler.

[@mmawilldesha]

As a black southerner I heard the stories from my elders, and I know it was brutal back in the day. It's good to hear someone from the other side speak honestly. Great interview.

[@Gaeilstorm]

If you look squarely at her as she speaks you will get the gut feeling that she is truthfully speaking her own truth not only that of others.

[@Oma_Wetterwachs]

​@@Gaeilstorm Maybe. But I'm Sure there were many people wo felt Like this. If was the Same in my country. I don't want to say they were Not guilty, because they follow the Rules because of fear.

[@anastasiabeaverhousin5398]

She was blatantly honest in a time that honesty was horrible. Respect.

[@godbodytheclergyman7874]

I lived in a town called Chester In Illinois as a small child. I was almost hung from a tree there. For grown men to attack a 10 year old is pure hatred. I've looked the devil directly in the eyes. I felt hunted like game.

[@godhimself1128]

CHRIST. How long ago was this??

[@chuckabbate5924]

I'm sorry for the horror that visited you. People need to choose to walk in the light.

[@tyfrazier2905]

Wow, you mean this was up north, I thought it was all brotherly up there.

[@caliisactive1074]

We don't know about these type of stories this is Info We Need!! Survivors stories

[@AT-gu8by]

@@caliisactive1074 Is the Buffalo shooting enough for you?

[@WraithX959]

What they feared was retribution for all the heinous acts committed.

[@GodsDaughter444]

EXACTLY

[@aliceianwillis8644]

Exactly...

[@daramcneil9623]

@Palepride Worldwide 🤣😆😁😄😃😀😂🤣😅

[@romecottrell4558]

No 😨 one can never be punished for everything bad that other people done during the hundreds of years of human history 🤥. We can only try not to make the same mistakes over and over again.

[@gigiarmany4332]

PERIOD

[@daguy5680]

When I was stationed in Georgia in the early 1970's, I met/knew a clansman. I asked him why he joined. He told me around here, it's like the cub scouts, when you're little, your folks just put you in it and that's what u grow up with. This lady reminded me of that.

[@2kt2000]

I'm in my 50's..and Brown (black has negative connotations by design)..and I've been telling people a version of that since my teens. Atleast half of racist I'd say. good point.

[@businessbuilder92]

Believe it or not here in southern virginia there was a clansman march right in the middle of the city this was around the 2010s so pretty recent it got nasty they actually vandalized my home more than anything i was just surprised they still had so many numbers haha crazyness

[@keithgray2491]

​@@businessbuilder92the problem with that behavior is that it was never addressed and is still tolerated. There should be a societal stigma and actual punishments incurred for such acts, in this day and age.

[@Mo-yd8xc]

What the hell is "a good racist?"

[@TheRealPynkPanther]

king von, according to the black community. thing is, he was racist against his own. he didn't kill anyone white. everyone he killed he knew and looked just like him. yet he is worshipped by his community. hell, i guess those that worship him are "good racists", too.

[@rausyahsosauceyah772]

There isn’t one !

[@rashaunthomas5814]

Bruuuuuuh I couldn't move past that part!

[@MelGibsonFan]

Someone doesn't act on it probably.

[@AtibaVV]

@@rashaunthomas5814 you are much like the good racist. Ignorant like children

[@DavidMcFarner]

Old southerner here… they are afraid that they will be treated like they have treated black people. Of course with Hispanics, they are afraid they will take our jerbs. They are afraid of Muslims because they don’t understand their religion, afraid of gays because they want grandchildren to carry on their traditions, afraid of… afraid of… afraid of… 🙄

[@edouble30083]

Well it seems to me then they need to get with the times and assimilate with the changes of society. And stop being so damn scared and try to learn from what you/they are afraid of. Scared is being the target of so called fear. It’s not fear, it hatred.

[@tHEHEAd1138]

Tk rr jeerrrrb!! 😅

[@BluetheRaccoon]

I grew up in Baltimore, a child of a family of racist, homophobic, truly bigoted people. Somehow I always knew to some extent that what my family believed was wrong, but once I realized that if I was open about who I am, that they'd likely not let me live is what cemented my disdain for them and fueled my leaving once I turned 18.

[@LB-uo7xy]

Thank God you were able to escape that hatred hole alive! And hope you are doing well now financially first and emotionally second.

[@TheLilly]

They fear us for no reason and then they create scenarios that make them fear us more and then they oppress and punish us for the illusions they've created in their minds. I have never witnessed such wickedness and demonic activity in my life‼️

[@pjost6643]

Kind of the same fear that people have these days for Muslims. I’m a Christian but I’m also part Syrian after September 11 I had people making all kinds of jokes about me being ‘one of them’. Just because of my dark circles around the eyes even though it was so obvious that I was born and raised in America heck, I even have a Pittsburgh yinzer accent. But then again, I was living in Kentucky, so maybe that says something

[@aaliyahkassim9142]

@@pjost6643don't compare the black plight with some racist jokes

[@SkyPauletig]

White people is demonic with their own white people, if these good white people could wake up and stick together with the black people and nature we d be so happy ❤

[@zzz-nu2re]

Yet people are defending that dude clobbering a sitting old lady with a chair. A lot of black people are exposing themselves after the bama brawl, they never cared about justice, only the color of the justice

[@gcromer903]

That first sentence was so eloquent in expressing frustration and confusion.

[@DravenUrei]

"Be glad we are asking for equality, and not demanding revenge" I think about this quote a lot. Racists wouldn't be so scared of black people getting power if they truly believed that black people were never mistreated. They are afraid of ever experiencing even a SLIVER of what we've been through. Last few years is evidence of this.

[@tonyjones1560]

There’s a scene in the Wayans Brothers movie “I’m Gonna Get You, Sucka!” where the hero goes down to the HQ of the local black revolutionary movement to ask for help. The leader of the group is the only one there…and the only one left. When the hero asks, “Where are your men?” the leader tells him about a new government facility that opened downtown and how they went down to protest: “They went down there with guns…and came out with JOBS! The brothas weren’t mad anymore…” Dude’s sitting in a room decorated with all sorts of Afrocentric and left wing political posters. He’s dressed in a daishiki, a beret and black leather gloves…and his wife, young son and daughter are not just white, but blonde haired and blue eyed. Really. You can find this on KZbin, if you haven’t seen it. It’s hilarious. FTR, the revolutionary is played by Clarence Williams III from the 1960s show “The Mod Squad,” and his wife is Eve Plumb (Jan from “The Brady Bunch.”) Perhaps without meaning to, the Wayans Bros made a statement about the probable nature of “black retaliation” in America. The vast majority of us are looking for tangible redress for ancient and continuing wrong, a reasonable chance at a decent life (just like anybody else) and to finally have an end to hypocrisy…

[@DravenUrei]

@@tonyjones1560 I almost forgot the older Waynes brother did I'm Gonna Get You, Sucka, that used to be one of my favorite blaxploitation parody movies. Right next to "Don't Be a Menace To South Central While Drinking Juice in the Hood".

[@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79]

Facts, and black people aren’t even thinking about revenge more focused on everybody being treated fairly then plotting petty revenge. Two wrongs don’t make a right as my auntie always said.

[@hydrobuu]

@@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 yeah not all black think that way.

[@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79]

@@hydrobuu I can promise the majority of blacks being I am black do not care about revenge, all individuals want is to be treated fairly and maybe some feel like reparations is needed which we know will never come. I don’t know of any black groups creating gathers about hate or any other non sense, just want equality is the number 1 thing. We have to many problems in our own community to be focus on revenge and hate.

[@brijeter9534]

To think that someone gets physically sick when they think of people like me being treated fairly.

[@_method_5877]

It's spiritual. This stuff is deep.

[@slicksweet1]

Demons. Innate demons

[@keydaniels]

...and we've never done sh!t to them.

[@seriousone8030]

When being white is the only "advantage" you have over those who are not white, the thought of losing that advantage is enough to make you physically sick.

[@augustusbrown5320]

facts

[@morrionperryman8708]

“My great grandfather was a good man but he was a racist!” Wow! All in the same sentence… What an oxymoron!

[@thedialogue9545]

Exactly, wicked isn't good is it!

[@belleofthecamp6530]

A better statement would have been; and what she clearly meant to iterate..he did some good humanitarian deeds as well some awful evil views, she saw both sides to him.

[@rhondataylor4455]

There's only one good and not the racist Grand

[@badgirlhollywood9741]

Racist is not synonymous with being good nor bad in personhood it has nothing to do with hate it is about privilege

[@mhawks]

Maybe she looked passed what made him had and loved him, she understood what was going changer her way. Isn't that worth something

[@Daylin821]

The amount of times she used the word, “FEAR” speaks volumes and quite telling. From D.W. Griffith’s 1915 The Birth of A Nation to 1938’s H.G. Wells War of the Worlds radio broadcast to the 1999 Y2K Millennium Bug. “FEAR” continues to the overwhelming dominate factor that rules some of white America. “FEAR” they’re going to take our guns, “FEAR” that they’re going to take my job. I’m “SCARED” they my live next door to me. I’m “FRIGHTENED” for my children. This “FEAR” are PUBLICLY CONFESSED TO ON A DAILY BASIS. EXIBIT A: this documentary. These unfounded “FEARS” are an enigma to minorities, that unfortunately this “FEAR” turns to ANGER and RESENTMENT and manifest to HATE. There WILL BE individuals reading this in front of them on this screen, who will TOTALLY and VEHEMENTLY deny my commentary. WELCOME TO AMERICA….land of free speech and opposition to said free speech. These are my observational views and opinions that I’m sharing on this open forum. My diatribe, as it were😆 is meant to have a honest and inadvertently candid dialogue, that some individuals tend to avoid. My “FEAR” is a looming 2nd Civil War if we don’t get around these “FEARS” and improve race relations, WITH ALL RACES‼️ Our enemies ARE WATCHING AND WILL exploit this American wound, called RACISM. There I’m done.😆😆😆😆

[@lindafranco1300]

Truth...enemies at the gate...while fear is feasting upon our very souls.. the whole country and our world is in trouble...fear is our enemy...love is our hope......... may Yah have mercy upon us all...

[@brendaharless9879]

Unfortunately I agree with you. The best way I know to stop racism is to remember God made only 1 race of mankind. There are many ethnic groups and different cultures but if you do DNA tests the results would show that we all go back to Adam and Eve no matter what skin complexion we have. Also, F.E.A.R. really means False. Evidence. Appearing. Real. ! The idea that we should all just " go along to get along " helps the bigots by making us mental children afraid to tell the truth and " rock the boat ".

[@curtisthomas2670]

"When you're accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression"

[@stephaniejohnson2403]

Exactly!

[@bmabommie]

Truth

[@chuckabbate5924]

Boom!

[@nzurimalkia6293]

🎯

[@blueninjanoname7338]

Your countries being token over beta 😂

[@Friedfoodie]

These interviews should be shown in all the schools. Outstanding series of interviews.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you Deb. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@kevinreid6223]

This trash has been push down black children throat for four hundred yrs. Our kids don't need it.

[@kitfenwick1641]

Can't considered CRT 🧐.

[@ericwilliams-de6dx]

They should show interviews of blacks telling you how they will kill racist white people!

[@rickyjustice6812]

These videos should be shown in all homes

[@peacemakerao]

If you’re still using ‘black’ as a noun instead of a adjective, you haven’t changed as much as you think you have😬. There’s no bravery here, only excuses and justification. She even said it herself, these people just can’t face their guilt.

[@joshuas1960]

Madame, failure to do the right thing is doing the wrong thing. Additionally, it is not possible to be a racist and a good person. Those terms are mutually exclusive.

[@keithgray2491]

Agreed. I think it's akin to being a little pregnant.

[@SilentEcho9194]

A few years after you made this video, I was in a military community in the south eastern United States. I got to experience the shame of being in the company of racist people. It was an eye opening experience. I hadn't realized that so many people have such archaic beliefs and no one has honestly challenged them. It exists in northern states, too. I have a louder voice now when I am confronted with the that type of person. I was a young adult when I was living there. Now I'm in my 50's. It's said that 50 years old is 25 for the second time. The difference is you're wiser and bolder.

[@SilentEcho9194]

I'm white. If someone of a different race is being racist towards a white person, chances are likely they wouldn't listen to my challenge. It would have to come from someone of their race. It depends on where you live how common it is and how accepted it is. It also depends on the person. If you go into a public space seeking confrontation, you will easily find it. If you don't respond when it finds you, it will stop. The only challenge I can offer is to the white person to de-escalate the situation. The only person you have control of is yourself. Your own mouth, hands and feet. You don't have to say that, you don't have to do that and you don't have to go there. Self control. If someone is making racist remarks to you, don't respond with more racist remarks. Be the bigger person and just walk away. In that situation, that is my challenge.

[@SilentEcho9194]

@Christian Constitutionalist You proved to me that you're not interested in fixing the situation. You would gladly deny that with great rights comes great responsibility. If this generation would stop teaching the next generation the divisive words, they would fall out of usage. My challenge to you is to not respond with the same in that situation. Are you up to it or do you wish to continue falling into the same childish routine? From what you have said and the way you typed it, you can't see past the end of your own nose and most likely cannot put yourself in someone else's shoes.

[@e.lycopersicon9720]

@Christian Constitutionalist After 600 years of slavery, 100 years of Overt discrimination, and 50 years of tacit discrimination, I'd hate white people too. Don't dare talk about your christianity when you stand by and let the Samaratan suffer and pretend that you're the aggrieved party while you do it.

[@e.lycopersicon9720]

@@SilentEcho9194 you can't be racist against white people, You can hate us (for cause, I assure you) you can discriminate against but you can't be racist against the group who is understood by society to not actually have 'race' but to be the 'neutral human standard.'

[@SilentEcho9194]

@@e.lycopersicon9720 In case you missed it, I am white. The divisive language was what I was referring to and personal responsibility and accountability in confrontational situations. Some can only see themselves as having rights, but can't understand others have the right to not hear/see their vulgarity .

[@ciarandunphy2035]

She needs to explain her definition of what a good person is.

[@timothysanders429]

Listen to the Devil talk.

[@dbelezi2157]

Sometimes ignorance and fear will have good people unfortunately lean towards prejudice and hatred.

[@ciarandunphy2035]

@@dbelezi2157 Add in religion and you will get pure evil.

[@dbelezi2157]

@@ciarandunphy2035 People can twist the Bible and faith towards evil.

[@ciarandunphy2035]

@@dbelezi2157 The god of the bible is an invisible mass murderer. Apparently, you have not read the book. Faith is not in any way a reliable pathway to truth.

[@mikew8383ify]

I found myself struggling to understand how she could say with a straight face, that there were racist people who were really good people". Then I think that their racist attitudes and behaviors did not directly impact her day to day living; so she was able to see them as just people with poor understandings.

[@Africanbeautyy93]

Wow! 💯 you took the words out of my mouth!

[@espoespo3557]

They went to war to keep slavery a thing. They risked their own lives to keep others in chains and bondage. The fact that my grandfather is one of these people makes me sick.

[@Luigi_Mario_1997]

You’re not defined by your bloodline, but the people you choose to associate with.

[@mos9500]

She speaks of "some people", and "there were people that thought"....She had my attention until the "good people" remark. Are the really good racist people in the pictures posing under the tree with the man they lynched? I do hear her speak of the guilt and shame for how "people" behaved, but I do not hear her speaking of her own thoughts of growing up racist and what her fears were or are. I cannot give her any bravery credit. This is her rationalizing. Thank you for sharing David.

[@TheLily97232]

She said it. Racists are cowards, and her being raised in it is one of them. I don't hear much either in what she says except trying to excuse, and draw some sympathy towards racists. She also omits that beyond racism, the South was happy and built with slavery, brutality against black people, dehumanization. If only it stopped with their fearful stupidity thoughts... no bravery here.

[@godmakesnew]

I just hear someone trying to describe her experience. It’s a difficult issue for her and it’s not easy to talk about. I’m grateful for her testimony.

[@brycecharles3856]

So it's okay to hate white people though? It's okay to say whites have no culture and are evil. May I remind you Brazil was the last country to end slavery and it was the African tribes who would kidnap and steal their own people to sell to the dutch and British, all anyone wants to talk about is generations ago. You want someone to blame for all the problems then blame the right group. The Democrat party created policies to destroy the black communities. As Malcom X said. The white liberal is one of the most diabolical and untrustworthy person while the white conservative will keep to themselves.

[@religiohominilupus5259]

@@Bimboms If you are, by any chance, from Louisiana, greetings from Lafayette!

[@religiohominilupus5259]

@@Bimboms Ooh, I've been to Beaumontt (and passed Port Arthur), but most of the time I spent in TX was in El Paso, Houston, and Dallas. So many places I'd yet like to visit!

[@iaco.mp4210]

When she talks about the lynching of Emmet Till ( 6:37), it shows how people will excuse, ignore and deny even the most horrible acts when they threaten their mindset and system of """""""values"""""""

[@bluefootedpig]

Reminds me of Aubrey. It couldn't have been racists, it was because he was actually a criminal. He was looking at a house under construction!!! We hear the same thing, decades later, just a new spin.

[@jm10014]

this goes the same way around with our current woke people

[@abaneyone]

George Floyd.

[@eemoogee160]

This is happening so much these days. Cognitive dissonance. People inventing a false reality because it makes them feel better about themselves.

[@eemoogee160]

@@jm10014 I was going to say Covid denial and doubters of democracy but sure, cognitive dissonance abounds across the political cultural divide. 🙄

[@j.a.whittler6983]

The key to understanding racism IS to begin with having a OPEN mind to it.Taking responsibility and understanding what WAS/IS really happened to black people. KNOWLEDGE...is key. Start when kids are young. Explain that ALL people...are to be treated like YOU want to be treated. If YOU don't know something about a certain culture or race...ASK questions. Do NOT ASSUME or makeup things. Do NOT FEAR...go to the person of color (respectfully) and ask the appropriate questions. LOVE THY NEIGHBOR ❤️

[@joesef7718]

Actually you should starts with the older whts have to change

[@j.a.whittler6983]

@@joesef7718 You are correct.

[@justmyopinion9883]

Thank you for sharing this video. I applaud this lady for having the courage to share her life experience. That is not easy to do.

[@johnwright9372]

She hits the nail on the head when she says people were afraid of upsetting their church congregation. The Bible Belt is now riding high in Republican states.

[@ROYALP100]

They are all "COWARDS".

[@lovesyah4618]

Damn devils don't have a clue what's coming for the evil they inflicted.

[@thepamela050]

Yankee states were just as bad, they just love pointing the finger at the south..

[@Last-Ninja-1]

Isn't the Bible about Black People?

[@stephenmillerjr5970]

Incredibly provocative and insightful. I commend this woman for having such an honest and candid conversation about race.

[@Delcielo9]

She got a chance to give excuse after excuse and attempted to make herself feel better. Failed.

[@ellapresley8634]

@@Delcielo9 I don't "commend" anybody that "hate me because of my color". She's just about as "racist and the woman who lied on Emmet Tills"

[@maiqtheliar4347]

there's literally nothing to commend. it's easy to speak from a position of privilege. the whole reason white people treated every other race the way they did is because there were no repercussions, and what they feared was being put in a position where they would have to be held accountable. that's still true today.

[@maiqtheliar4347]

@@blackice8824 it's hard to find a medium between conforming to their definition of normality or selling your soul. can't even have a normal conversation because we come from different worlds. why does standardization always seem to favor the people writing the books, and it comes at a cost of (your) diversity.

[@loriannrichardson7644]

Not very candid. It's obvious that she was part of it. Pay attention to her eyes and her speech cadence -- this is a person who is guilty.

[@janisgay5507]

Thank you for the honest observations from a well-spoken person. You can feel the objective grief. I hope she writes her thoughts down.

[@sayitaintso7544]

She mentions fear and control but excessive pride is another major factor and it seems to be coming back

[@markbowen1364]

She is honest, this reminds me of the holocaust. People don't bother because it doesn't affect them so evil thrives. But what if her son or father or loved one was killed for being accused of something, her helpless demeanor might just be different. She probably wouldn't say good people killed her relative, or they failed to do good things. That's how insidious, illogical, inconsistent, racism is.

[@charlesxavier3489]

Exactly

[@JOHN----DOE]

No, what she said was that many of them didn't think there was anything they could do. It's easy in hindsight to think they had more agency than they could see at the time.

[@markbowen1364]

@@JOHN----DOE people then and now don't think there was and is anything they can do until it affects them personally, then they run around frantically seeking community and government support. I don't know any family that sits back sulking when their kids go missing or are in danger. But when it affects minorities, we get excuses. They just don't want agency.

[@thedialogue9545]

Some of them yes, but she called evil people good. That's an oxymoron. @@JOHN----DOE

[@msartlover]

I remember being around 8 & bringing my new friend over to my house to ask my mother if I could go across the street to her house. My mother took me aside and said “You know she’s a negro”. I wondered what she meant? Anyways my mother saw the puzzlement in my face & said yes that I could go over. Took me a long time to realize what she meant. I was glad that I didn’t see color but the person.

[@sp3357]

The fact that your mother let you go is awesome ❤️

[@Lin_Eileen]

@@blackice8824 At least she wasn't a terrible person she let her daughter's friendship take precedent over her own feelings. Flawed she is but I say that's a good mother for not letting her fears and doubts let her control her daughter's friends. I hope she eventually realized the error of her ways.

[@bazjams4112]

I can relate Dee, I was raised in upstate NY. My BFF in 4th grade was a Irish kid (John). We were inseparable, but I was always at his house playing. One day my mom asked why doesn't Johnny ever come over? Even though our parents knew each other....PTA, Little League...ect Our dads even worked at the same place. Johnny asked his mom, she told that she didn't know if it was safe, and she wanted to keep an eye on "us"! Mom explained the situation to me, but my nine year mind could not comprehend the concept of racism. 50 years later I get it, but I still don't understand the FEAR!

[@samuelrosslee408]

If you didn’t see color you didn’t see the person.

[@ppetal1]

@@samuelrosslee408 race is a social, not personal construct.

[@AM-dl2kf]

They have a limited mind and upbringing can be extremely programming Amazing that you found your way out! Thankful for your sharing so much!

[@susanlloyd7395]

She's so wonderfully thoughtful. I'm glad I watched this.

[@SusannahPerri]

I have never understood why so many people in the south feel a life based in hate is a life they call “Christian.” Statements such as, “My grandfather was a good man. But he was a racist.” Those two statements are mutually exclusive because a truly good person will change their behavior once they grow up and learn they were raised with bigotry and ignorance. I guess this woman did that and finally spoke up, while her grandfather did not. Yet he could have; even before the Civil War there were plenty of abolitionists in the South.

[@midnightspares]

Peer group pressures within the community? Change bringing about difference? Fear of lower paid jobs or loss of jobs? Probably so many fear factors. When Government deliver keys words of fear, say post 9/11, communities fall into line with the Government message. My opinion anyways.

[@SusannahPerri]

She says nothing about government. Families pass this mentality down. It’s up to them to stop it.

[@lorainefrancesv]

she never said her grandfather murdered anyone.

[@rolondolucas784]

Correction, white people in the south feel and think this way.

[@SusannahPerri]

No one said she said that.

[@katiefountain2407]

The part that stuck out to me the most is "Not so much as they did wrong things, but they failed to do right things". How sad and true...

[@gray_foxx583]

What's the difference?

[@katiefountain2407]

Exactly 💯

[@justme-ew3ri]

That's deflecting and discrediting

[@sakhu8945]

But that is the WRONG THING.

[@sakhu8945]

It’s called double speak. Trickster.

[@jenniferhampton5171]

I appreciate her openness and honesty. How can we work on a national level to build trust among people?

[@ambs9223]

All I can say is just treat others the way you want to be treated and stop listening to fake news. Yes, I know some people are crazy but that doesn't mean all of us are. I hope that helps.

[@tauriandeveaux4457]

Very thought provoking interview

[@dubkae9447]

The fear was and still is retaliation, guilt and loss of full control.

[@firstladychosen186]

Exactly what it is but their is nothing they can do about it they shall reap what they sowed period ⚔️

[@washedintheblood4779]

Malcom X said the same thing, and I 100% believe this!

[@jasonbuckner699]

They fear the Lord's return and punishment

[@gamehardy]

@@firstladychosen186do something

[@kbee8517]

When you allow fear to rule your actions and decisions, what she's describing-this can be the tragic, inhumane result.

[@antonioramos8804]

What drives a group of people for generations to just hate? It has to be more than just the "fear of losing control". They knew exactly what they were doing, as they perpetuated this evil and hate. Sadly it's far from over. It's easier to live in peace and with respect.

[@kbee8517]

@@antonioramos8804 I agree it's much better and more peaceful to live in respect to others and loving others as best as you can. Hate is often as a result of love-either you loved someone which turns to hate, or they were supposed to love you, then it turns to hate, or they threaten someone you love. (This is from a personal perspective.) Fear can be surprisingly manipulative and tricky, and we often forget that confusion ties into it as well. Not just a simple lack of knowledge, but the mental confusion that surrounds a genuine fear. Many of those who hate or feel above others aren't usually brave enough to combat the fear that drives those traits. Or it takes a significant influence for them to.

[@loriannrichardson7644]

That fear is due to how they treated Black people.

[@binky1339]

THIS IS THE MENTAL ILLNESS THAT CAUSES AN ENTIRE RACE TO BECOME MENTALLY ILL, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT.

[@venusbrown6283]

@@antonioramos8804 it ain't no such

[@JJJere]

I appreciate the candor of this video. I wish there were more.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

There are dozens of videos like this one on my KZbin channel where people just share their point of view and feelings. David Hoffman Filmmaker

[@gokaren420]

It has to be very exhausting to hate so hard on a people that have done no harm to you. We don't have that kinda hatred within us towards others. They truly believed they were Christians?

[@Africanbeautyy93]

Right! I cannot understand it.. but then again. THANK GOD I cannot

[@kfrancis1872]

Imagine holding ur collective breath because u know a culture so sadistic cannot exist forever and u become physically ill and bedridden at the thought of retribution and revenge. Meanwhile, the abused and oppressed just want u to be human and leave them the hell alone. Period. Like having a neighbor who actively puts tacks in ur yard everyday and barbed wire at ur windows. If u complain, he and his buddies will swarm and burn the house down. He fears that if he stops that u will seek vengeance. When all u want is for him to tend his own and leave u alone! Senseless bigotry, racism, and Apartheid.

[@KrisH-bh9pq]

While I give her credit for speaking up, coming from the South, seeing crosses' burnt in people's yards within the last few years of my life, and having been raised by a resist, married into another racist family, I have never, a day in my life had trouble telling others that it was wrong. I have no issue correcting preachers, politicks, my mom whomever. I don't care to tell anyone else who comes at another black to white or white to black to stuff it. God says, love 1 another, not pick and choose.

[@oldpipe6146]

Thank you for you effort,but be careful please

[@trismagistis3392]

Everyone isn't meant to live together. That's the problem.

[@bronzebeautybybronx]

@@trismagistis3392 why doesn't anybody get this?

[@joshschneider9766]

Is this where I tell you to go back to africa? Clown.

[@trismagistis3392]

@@bronzebeautybybronx The pictures clearer than 4k. I believe that most of the people who look like me are suffering cognitive dissonance. Overwhelmed. The beast sits around on some takeover ish yet complains about peoples reaction to the demonic behaviors that they exude. Meanwhile the victims seem confused.

[@Auntkekebaby]

She's not being completely honest because she refuse to see the whole truth. All of them are in denial because they fear that we want revenge. So they continue to terrorize. We're out here trying to heal and be healthy.

[@davruck1]

im writing an article on substack called relaxation is the new reparations. our anscestors worked for our freedom, not for employment in the system. these white folks an have it. im healing, vibing, chillin. never felt better. when it collapse we will see that it was nothing but a system of theft. there more homes than homeless people and more than enough food and land. so what are we waiting for? i refuse to step foot in the place of employment ever again

[@douglashall4316]

Yes they fear retribution

[@PeteS_1994]

What is completely honest? If you have an opinion it’s always somewhat subjective.

[@theybanthetruth4955]

She is still one of them, the demon is in her blood

[@SkyPauletig]

​@@PeteS_1994when we want to show an opinion it is never subjective it is needed, I talk for myself

[@montagne5825]

As a Hispanic woman its very pleasing to see the white population decreasing and POC numbers increasing exponentially.

[@Seabasstien]

I am so impressed with her honesty. I don't know how you get over fear but we all know it ultimately limits and hurts all of us. I once heard a sermon that said to just do it afraid. And then we usually wonder what was I so afraid of?

[@valeriareed7234]

She believes all that she is saying because she is explaining who she is while justifying the evil and insanity of racism........

[@terracottawellness1561]

She sounds morally "SICK". . . just like that sick, Carol Dunham, the accuser/kidnapper of Emmet Till. She's no better and that's sad.

[@twotymer4458]

I see that too

[@Nimonjeua-Ndiangang]

Peeped that!

[@princefuller7179]

Pray for her. Her soul is hurting.she deep down knew it was wrong. Love your neighbor as your self

[@kimwalter8753]

Yep, they need about 10 million years locked away with the Lord and his armies of light, and even then they probably won't change.

[@wendyh3297]

As a Northerner re-located to NC, this video hits buttons for me. I have only known one couple well enough to try and delve into this subject with and their responses shocked me. Their answer to every question pertaining to black people was "That's just the way it was." (No emotion about it) ..."thats just the way it was". Even when asked "Didn't you ever look at how they were treated and feel badly...didn't you ever think about it?" The answer.."Thats just the way it was." I wish this video helped make sense of that. I heard her but still...I find that answer unacceptable personally. I can't imagine seeing what they saw and NOT questioning and taking some kind of action, even if it's just a gesture of discontent with the injustice.

[@hotchocolategirl1der]

That answer is unacceptable. But people don't want to see themselves as monsters. So they deny and compartmentalize their experiences.

[@moneybags999]

"I wish this video helped make sense of that." You know why? Because if you sat down & asked this lady the questions you asked your friends, she'd likely say the same exact thing. ""That's just the way it was." It's hard to make people care when it's obvious that they don't & never will truly care. I think this lady is savvy enough to know how to give palatable responses that make her look like she's not one of those "good racists." Lol

[@linzierogers5024]

I suspect that is why Derrick Bell spoke of the permanence of racism in the US in his book "Faces at the Bottom of the Well." He was denounced and vilified by whites and plantation minded blacks who feel America has accepted them as equals.

[@lesabri]

Maybe it's meant like how we all see homeless people, but don't or can't really do anything about it.

[@moneybags999]

@@lesabri I think that's a cop out but a fair comparison. If people cared, they would do something about it. Period. There are people who do care. They feed the homeless, give them shelter, look after them, try to find out what they need, try to learn about their situation, try to reunite them with family if possible, etc...Most other people just don't care & feel nothing for them,. And yes there are white people who look at black people as apathetically as many people look at &/or despite homeless people just because they're black. But since you mention the homeless & clearly recognize that there is a problem with the way they are generally being treated by society, has this made you want to do something to help or will you continue to disregard them like most people & pretend to be helpless to help in some way? Do you think their treatment is acceptable just because "that's the way it is?"

[@leoscheibelhut940]

So important, sheds light on aspects I never knew.

[@georgesglutenfreecomedy5141]

One of the greatest guard of my therapy has been finding empathy for those whom I would so easily have utter contempt. She shines a light on the nuanced paradox of being a human influenced by society and trying to maintain it even though it may not have benefited you but surely doesn’t benefit others. We are not born racists yet the slide from humanity to racist though steep happens more frequently than even liberal and leftist minded folks like to admit. Racism is in the air we breathe in and out: how we have fears based in groups superficially different and morally opposite us; how we respond to those fears with false protections that usually become prisons rather than security; how we miss the experience of lives around us wholly missing the value each can add. I al very glad to have seen this video and heard her truths

[@dwrighte1]

You cannot be good and racist at the same time. Period and end of.

[@thehoneyeffect]

Yes, they can only pretend to be good and nice, just like a serial killer or a rapist could.

[@Chuxx1000]

Not even white jesus

[@jockogle5250]

Nobody is always good. Nobody.

[@Chuxx1000]

@@jockogle5250 I take it you’re racist. Is that a defense for not taking responsibility?

[@Chuxx1000]

@@jmh1080 Hate is taught.

[@kylemwiley]

"My great grandfather was a really good man but he was also really racist"...both can't be true at the same time. THIS is the cognitive dissonance that underscores the sentiments of the people in this video. People were able to ignore the atrocities that were happening to their fellow human beings in order to blissfully live their lives.

[@ineffable_name]

What about racists people who know they're wrong so they try to be the best person they can, despite the racist ways they think with? The hardest habits to break are whats learned as a child

[@davruck1]

@@ineffable_name the problem is you think performing works will help. changing your heart is all it takes. piety is just an act for those who dont want to change

[@damichilomax2108]

Wow

[@missjaszmine1968]

On a different note my aunt said a similar thing about her father who battered and tormented my father as a child, and turned him into a Jekyll Hyde batterer who tormented me and my mother throughout my childhood. My dad had died and I hadn't seen the family in at least 20 years because of the violence. My aunt says to me "I loved my father but I hated my father too. I guess that's why my brother was the way he was", and I responded, having fled for my life at 18, "That's exactly why he was the way he was". Watching this reminds me of the same type of thinking where you want to continue to paint somebody as sane, and sober minded who's not. Racism like domestic violence is a family value, a family disease.

[@Irishbellarose]

I was amazed when she said that. So delusional that she keeps calling them good people

[@2kt2000]

He goes to church , loves his daughter, takes care of his ailing mother and always has a kind word to say.. He's a good man. He helped lynch 2 black people who were passing through.. He's a good man. Just don't ask the 2 black people he lynched.. or they're children.

[@thedialogue9545]

God will not accept evil thinking and actions, he wasn't truly a Christian as most of them because many of them told themselves God was on 'their side'.

[@drifter23337]

Remember that a Lot of black men were lynched due to (False) rape accusations from white - Women. So, maybe don’t forget the “she” hidden in the equation. Maybe don’t let (like so many people) your anti-racist fervor, turn into anti-Male fervor. …. It’s about time that all of you left-wing SJWs started looking at the real culprit behind a lot of problems and prejudices in our world…. The - Gynocentrism - obscured from view by all the doggerel accusations of “patriarchal oppression” by misandristic cretins, hypocrites, charlatans, and troglodytes. Think about it. (Preferably, when thinking, use your brain rather than your gonads, jfyi)…. Cheers …

[@MicahScottPnD]

Fascinating, disarming honesty and insight. The truth can be stranger than fiction

[@jaiquanfayson1099]

When she said people thought Emmit Till was a prank or just fake until they found the body reminds me of conspiracy theorists who think mass shootings are set up or fake

[@martywilsonlife]

What an amazing service you are providing for our country! We must do what we can to improve the lives of all Americans who would benefit by our actions. The speaker pointed out that the inaction of good people was as much of a problem as the actions of evil, racist people.

[@PoliticanGaming]

@jesus perez yet you knew exactly the context in which she meant by pointing out what geographical points to convey. Speak to the content instead of poaching what you feel is irregular. Maybe educate yourself, that the world view will normally consider US citizens, "Americans". Go anywhere around the world, do you think they call you Jesus from California? No they call you an American. Why don't you get around the world (I have) and learn a perspective or 2? Also: noun: American ; plural noun: Americans a native or citizen of the United States. a native or inhabitant of any of the countries of North, South, or Central America. So one can argue she was not wrong, all from this region can claim to be an American. Education is key right?

[@morrisleviston4054]

Yes there is something you goof people can do, start the campaign for reparation, for black people, that would help us at least catch up with the rest of America, all we would wont is land and money so we can.build our own towns and cities have out own grocery stores, banks ,schools. Hospitals, so we can teach our own children, get loans to start our own business ,wouldn't that be wonderful, at least America could do that remember it .giveing Ukraine 40billion, it gives Israel 100 million annually, the native Indians 10million annually, even have Japan reparation even though Japan attacked America first, but refuse to acknowledge that the children of slaves that built this country, and suffered more than 465years under slavery this very day we suffer we fear for our lives every day,every 28hrs a unarmed black man is murdered by white cops, but black cops never shot unarmed white men ,if you good white people really fear god and truly feel bad for us. Helping us obtain reparation would be the way,

[@huizhechen3779]

How easily this woman can declare that her grandfather was a racist & at the same time "a good man". Absurd.

[@mrshiftd]

They were and are afraid that they would get treated like they treated them. Afraid of losing power and control over another group of people.

[@michaelbradshaw8278]

"Racism does not have a good track record. It's been tried out for a long time and you'd think by now we'd want to put an end to it instead of putting it under new management." -Thomas Sowell Important film to watch by David Hoffman, Filmmaker.

[@williamkurzenberger4607]

@Christian Constitutionalist Yes. The man is brilliant.

[@ladydeerheart1]

Men have been at war with each other for thirty five thousand years. You'd think they'd realize that doesn't work either.

[@activistbook3809]

Thomas Sowell is anti-black sellout. But that’s cool. Quote him away.

[@reillyflaherty9234]

@@activistbook3809 I doubt you've ever read any of his work.

[@activistbook3809]

@@reillyflaherty9234 sure - cool story. I doubt you know black ppl in real life.

[@drewcanton235]

Fear, the ultimate motivator...

[@thehoneyeffect]

Racism is the global fear of the genetic annihilation of white people, who only make up about 8% of the world's population... hence why white people created the worldwide system of racism white supremacy

[@terrellcuevo2369]

The thing is:what is the root of caucasians' 'fear' of people of color who've NEVER attacked or attempted to control your life?

[@cnwil4594]

And, insecurities brought on by oneself - SMH

[@stealthblu84]

Thanks for this light. We must as a people, as a whole, see the whole pie so that we may slice and enjoy justly. Together.

[@asage5801]

Nothing has changed. The silence, the apathy, the denial, the “all I have to do is not be racist” mindset, and of course the overt hate ( police murders, proud boys, etc…). Things remain the same. America is rotten at its moral core.

[@Ms_Kymm]

💯💯

[@zee6129]

Amerikkka will never change

[@mandy1044]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@cnwil4594]

Yes, I have first hand knowledge that it still exists. Many feel intimidated by educated, experienced, competent, and extremely talented blacks. They would try or would marginalize blacks credentials like they tried to do with President Obama. People said Trump isn't racist, but he clearly showed he is his behavior. Folks, this mindset is still present and going strong.

[@tyronevaldez-kruger5313]

Still can't believe that 7 Proud Boys are sitting in the Miami Dade GOP Comitee. They don't even hide it anymore

[@normanscottsailing480]

I can understand their fear. If a group of people I had spent my life hurting and denigrating suddenly came to power, I would be terrified too.

[@louleg23]

The running thread through all of David Hoffman's interviews is people speaking frankly and honestly. That the interviewees are made comfortable enough to DO that is a skill that means 'we' - as in those with other experiences - can learn and understand so much on a purely human level. Invaluable.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you for noticing Lou. David Hoffman Filmmaker

[@valentincavazos6963]

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker only in America we have the most hate criminals more in republican states why weak law enforcement also corrupt right wing politicians or the Reich wingers more than any other country in the world mixed together watch the Scottish descent Irish tell the truth in meidas touch you know what I mean we have a dysfunctional democracy big time!We waste all our money on guns the most more than any other country mixed together explains why we have the most hate crimes with guns!Also explains why white people in Europe hate white people in America cause they are distorting freedom with anarchy not seeing them as nords but racist scum! I'm in agreement with them sorry but truth hurts like in skyrim the nords hate the imperials for allying with the thalmors!We want change we must vote out Republicans vote for Democrats it won't be an instant change but we must give it a shot our last chance for this place that represents cyrodill to survive or like other ancient empires we are permanently doomed!!

[@lynnjordyn5103]

Very enlightening

[@nostaljiq]

I came to this video to get some additional insight and got a massive cop out. She had a chance to tell the truth. The truth is, the vast majority ENJOYED being racist. It was a source of pride. That’s why they kept souvenirs of the body parts of Black people and set up “picnics” to watch the show of Strange Fruit (Please read Without Sanctuary). This is why “Birth of a Nation” was the first movie screened at the White House. They loved dominating people they deemed inferior. It even turned many on (This is not hyperbole. Please read The Delectable Negro). Bottom line: Too many loved being racist and benefited from it and the rest were cowards.

[@sifta7]

It’s too much to expect a first person recollection to line up with ‘objective’ truth. She describing what you call cowardice and explains it as willful ignorance. To be honest, it may be that how certain people felt is even darker than enjoying their privilege. James Baldwin suspected that there was a certain fraction that would have wanted to conduct a genocide and it’s conceivable that this only off limits because of horrors of WW2.

[@davruck1]

basically. but they get a pass this lifetime for ignorace.

[@sashaeltekeh2618]

💯

[@GStone]

I can't see people finding joy or love in this behavior. Maybe they are projecting that image because they know what they are doing is evil. I think there is legitimate reason for fear. They've seen how brutally black people were treated and it's terrifying to think it could easily be them in that position. The woman explained that politicians exploited this, which is why it's still going on to this day.

[@dbelezi2157]

Evil triumps when good people are silent.

[@MsHeartIsArt]

It’s so hard not to feel contempt towards people who allow themselves to be governed by fear and greed. I am so disgusted by this. It’s tragic. But I remember Coretta Scott King’s quote: “Struggle is a never ending process. Freedom is never really won, you earn it and win it in every generation.” There wil always be “evil” as well as “good” in the world. But the light ☀️ always beats dark, but light still has to fight.

[@LoganCharlesII]

She has a nice voice

[@gilbertwainwright1222]

Bless your heart lady. ❤

[@idiotwind2248]

That this lady believes , in no uncertain terms " there's good ppl on both sides' Shows me she still doesn't get it.. She feels guilty? My guess is that the fear she felt growing up....its still there at this interview. We see that racism goes back generations in her family,as she speaks of her grandfather. One wonders, if she taught her children to fear ppl who were not white,like her. That certain groups & politicians can still stoke this fear,in 2022, & garner a following, is a sad commentary on where we are, v/s where we should be as a people. Another thought provoking film, David. Keep em coming..⚡

[@Auntkekebaby]

Yup.

[@tspaulding3845]

FEAR the number one reason for all that she said. Fear of losing control, fear of reaping what had been sown, karma, whatever way you say it - fear.

[@michaeldean9338]

Love Mr. Hoffman's subjects for interviews. Regardless the issue, there is always such intensity and raw truth. I always look forward to his videos.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you Michael

[@michaeldean9338]

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker You bet, Mr. Hoffman. Love your work.

[@dharmon8798]

Her story is so true. I thank her for speaking out, because a lot of people wouldn't have, and didn't. I think that White people thought that it would be revenge if a Black person ever got into office, just like the White people of Africa was thinking the same way when they got a Black African President. The key is treat each other with kindness and respect no matter the race. After all we're all God's children. He loves us all no matter what or the race.

[@vwatts8738]

EXACTLY!!

[@Sixfigas]

When she says there are good people who are racist that’s just her way of rationalizing her own racist views.

[@epifan3_]

Glad you're the only one here able to recognize this instead of commending her so called "bravery" 👍🏼

[@ohmslaye6262]

Good people can not be racist, this is antimony. Hatred will always be opposed to Love.

[@f.u.noseyassstalker7147]

When she said that good people thing she sound like Donald CHUMP. How are you a good person when your irrational and intolerant about a race of people.?

[@dbelezi2157]

I think the overall message is that fear and ignorance can have good people lean towards hatred and prejudice. People can hate what they fear and fear what they don't know or understand.

[@Sixfigas]

@@dbelezi2157 that excuse don’t work if there is nothing to fear.

[@bluedoggg1]

Fear has always been their most powerful weapon.

[@cgreer9010]

exactly. just evil

[@ogbobbiejohnson4034]

While simultaneously their most powerful motive.

[@rozchristopherson648]

My father always said that the law, the federal government, never really stepped in to make laws to protect all the citizens of the US before the Civil Rights Movement. That was how the states, especially states in the South, were able to function without any interference and to create their own system of laws to favor white Americans to such an extreme degree and to discriminate against African Americans. That kind of centuries-long privilege is what produced the pathological states of mind among whites which this woman speaks about in this video. I remember watching another video about the Ed Sullivan Show and how the Shirelles and Chiffons wanted to perform on the show but were denied because sponsors said that white southerners would not tolerate seeing beautiful black women in gowns and looking elegant and portrayed positively. Basically, a black woman needed to be portrayed as a “Mammy” type for such audiences or the affiliates would not air the program. Eventually rock and roll became so popular that the Ed Sullivan Show had to feature black artists and the loss of some southern affiliates did not matter financially because of the gains elsewhere. Similarly, when the Beatles refused to play venues in the South with segregated seating, concert promoters stopped that practice because there was big money to be made but would be lost if these artists refused to perform. But what this woman states is profound and a phenomenon to this day. Many white Americans are willing to tolerate certain changes in terms of civil rights, etc. but only up to a certain point. Blacks are not to go beyond their white counterparts unless they are making profits for other whites, such as in entertainment or sports.

[@humanendeavor7850]

Thank you so much for your insights into the darkness and those "bound" by ignorance. Ignorance was and is overwhelming. I love you even as a black male and child of God.

[@Yomi4D]

A good person can't be racist at the same time. Your grandfather was a monstrous individual. Quit deceiving yourself lady.

[@dbelezi2157]

Ignorance and fear will make a good person lean towards hatred and prejudice. I believe that the point she trying to make.

[@Yomi4D]

@@dbelezi2157 The point I'm making is that person was NEVER A GOOD PERSON. Character shows up with challenges. IF PEOPLE AREN'T CHALLENGED. they can hide their characters. Remember NAZI Germany, all those Germans were thought to be good until the time of trial of character showed up. Maybe, you are also not a good person, you just haven't been challenged yet. Perhaps, you'd fail. Perhaps, you are a Dr. Mengele in hiding.

[@dbelezi2157]

@@Yomi4D Tell me, were every German in Nazi Germany originally a bad person or could some been mislead and brainwashed towards hatred? The same thing happened in Rwanda when the Hutus killed the tutsi, many learned to hate and resent the other. As well with many people in the South, they weren't born a racist but because of the toxic racial environment was taught and misled people to think and believe in racist ideology. Again, ignorance and fear can lead people towards hatred. Also, with a toxic environment that teaches racism and hatred even good people can be brainwashed if that is all they knew, which will create bad people.

[@dbelezi2157]

@@Yomi4D but you are right about one thing, people need to be challenged in their thought or else they may never realize the toxic mindset they have.

[@itsconnorlmao754]

Thank you David! Your interviews are wonderful.

[@machonsote918]

When I listen to her testimony I can practically apply it word-for-word to the Trumpanzees. Those people have taken over the GOP (Trump's political party).

[@dustincourter6814]

Mrs. I’m a black man and in my opinion you share a very, very deep and compassionate story , I can tell in your voice that you was in thoughts while trying to tell such painful story along with a lot of regret, I’m not trying to put words in your mouth but I know you feel that if people was about more of consciousness and righteous with their decision making things for everybody could have turned out much better for all. I thank you for your courage to come forward with such strong topic. Besides you are a very brave and beautiful women and as of where we are today as the entire human race I don’t think no couture have to worry about revenge god said vengeance is his nobody gets away with nothing.

[@sonofthemorningstar6566]

My Grandfather was from the South….he said after being in the war in Korea it changed him…He told me who was he ta judge or hurt any body because of the color of there skin.

[@hethm.8159]

There is no way, zero, for that fact. A racist can not be described as a good person. Neither can be both. Evil can’t be good lady!

[@dbelezi2157]

At best a misguided person. Fear and ignorance can make a good person act and become a bad person.

[@roywillissr.1097]

Growing up as far as racism was concerned. We always felt it was based on their fears of being replaced. While at the same time they were the ones replacing others.

[@dubson461]

I’ve always passed this video up. I didn’t want to see it. I definitely wished I still passed on it. I knew this crap wasn’t going to sit right. Not only do I have to go to work and deal with BS like this. I come home to BS like this. You simply cannot rap your mind around wasting your time of day being ignorant.

[@WumboGuy]

She's really bending over backwards to justify a point of view she knows is wrong. Being kind and caring towards people in your personal life doesn't make you a good person if you then go to harass and oppress those outside your circle. If you are racist against any group of people you are a bad person, whether your grandkids love you or not.

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

That's the contemporary PC viewpoint, but people protect "their own" over strangers, even now.

[@phyllisthompson4207]

@@shin-ishikiri-no protect from what? Evil is evil period.

[@phyllisthompson4207]

@@shin-ishikiri-no and you can find many ways to justify evil, doesnt change the facts. The chicken are coming home to roost now, and it us just the begining. Whatever we sow, it also shall we reap .., Life is a cycle, always remember that my friend.

[@moneybags999]

@Hal Colombo Who said that these people were good because they were black? Who's defending them? I'm black & I would never defend a person's bad behavior just because we are the same race. I also believe that black people can be racist/prejudiced against other races. And, yes, I'm sure they learned that bad behavior from their friends/family/classmates, etc...but did they have the law behind them to justify their actions & protect them? The last time I checked the legal system was not especially lenient on blacks & there are no laws in place preventing white people from going where they choose. There are some big differences here but anyway, I'm glad you got that off your chest. Let's get one things straight, though. Not all black people are bad just like not all white people are bad. Live by that rule & you should be ok. It has served me well, thus far! Side Note: Why were you living in "hood" areas? The places you're talking about are known for high levels of crime. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. It's like hating Mexicans but then choosing to live in East LA. Come on! Even as a black person, I know not to go to those areas. Chances are I would be victimized, too! If I lived in Chicago when the mob was at its height, would it be fair & accurate to say that all Italians, regardless of where they live, are nothing but violent cold-blooded gangsters like Al Capone et al?

[@mandy1044]

@Hal Colombo Sounds like you're generalizing..I guess I'm a "bad black racist" by association of my color. 🙄

[@talkindurinthemovie]

Thanks 4 putting this out

[@yeahthatguy810]

If someone is a racist they are not a good person. A good person would not hate another human being for something they had absolutely no control over. A good person would do the right thing, even if it's not popular.

[@tommiebrooks8573]

Those racist people grew up with lies, not myths. So, this is why THEY don't want CRT to be taught. The truth MUST be told and shared.

[@AngryManSki]

This definitely helps explain how the “fake news” idea resonates so deeply with conservatives.

[@cnwil4594]

Exactly, they would gaslight every chance they get regardless of hard facts and evidence. And, Trump is carrying the torch with his minions and supporters.

[@poloboyl89]

That’s what they meant when they were saying “dog whistling”

[@truthseeker6874]

This is the most honest account of racism that I have heard. Although she still clings to the thought that white people aren't bad because they are racist, which is impossible; she does convey that racism in itself, is wrong or bad. I've always maintained that whites can't or don't see themselves as bad for being racist, which is why they continue to practice it. Racism is a system of oppression created and maintained by white people to disadvantage black people, while advantaging white people; and it is motivated in hatred and jealousy. So how can a person be good and operate in racism at the same time? Moreover, how does one attend church, where the bible is read (and supposedly understood, but maybe not); and still maintain their strong, violent hatred and jealousy towards black people; and convince themselves that salvation doesn't require them to change from their oldselves, and become a new creature, that no longer hates anyone for any reason, but especially based in race? This is the reason that I don't believe white people can be saved. Salvation requires repentance of sins; and repentance requires turning away from sin or the transgression of the law, and walking in fellowship with the Messiah. When you repent, you not only turn from your wicked deeds and ways, but you make every effort to repair and restore the person or people that you caused harm to; and you humble yourself and seek their forgiveness.There's no way in American society, after 246 years (1619-1865) of chattel slavery including buck breaking, raping, brutal beatings and separation of families; and another 100 years (1865-1965) of Jim Crow segregation and oppression including lynchings, beatings, raping, murdering, burning, terrorizing, convict leasing, peonage schemes, joblessness, redlining, economic exclusion from wealth building, lack of quality education, medical experimentation, police brutality and killings, race massacres and more; and then the last 57 years (1965-2022) of continuing oppression, subjugation and sabotage of black people, including school to prison pipelines, criminalization of black men, massincarceration, predatory lending practices, continued redlining, unfair housing laws, abortion, welfare, planting drugs and guns, continued economic exclusion from wealth building, food deserts, health disparities, gentrification, water insecurities, police shootings and injustices, and a racial wealth gap that is an accumulation of these built-in disadvantages; that whites can truly believe in their hearts and minds that they are saved for eternal life while they continue practicing these sins both currently and historically. They have to be fearful of GOD'S consequences and judgements for these behaviors and this ongoing system of oppression. If so, there may be a glimpse of hope for that individual; but if not, may GOD'S will be done. Amen!

[@marksimmons5839]

"Racism is a system of oppression created and maintained by white people to disadvantage black people, while advantaging white people; and it is motivated in hatred and jealousy. So how can a person be good and operate in racism at the same time? " Maybe its motivated by something deeper...like genetic survival....The Isis Papers talks about this.

[@yahphirah182]

I cannot add another word other than AMEN. FATHER LET YOUR FIRE FALL ON ALL AND THEIR SEED WHO HAVE TRAFFIC YOUR PEOPLE FOR GREED AND POWER AND HATRED. She believes their are good racist ppl....pls show me one. The things they fear are fast approaching upon them. Go read Old Testament prophecies of The Most High's (TMH) wrath against ALL the heathen nations that has spoiled HIS chosen people. The thing you fear is the very thing will be served to you all 7 fold into your bosom says TMH. Vengeance is mine says TMH. I SHALL REPAY.

[@davidrogers4922]

Amen well said

[@truthseeker6874]

@@marksimmons5839 Well then the end justifies the means, right? It really doesn't matter what the reason is for harming another people, there's no acceptable way to do so and be justified; and especially when: 1) those people are not harming you; and 2) there is a GOD in which you claim to believe, who could save you from extinction without you having to harm and kill HIS chosen people. So there's no excuse for the violence except you want to operate outside of Father YAH’s will.

[@marksimmons5839]

@@truthseeker6874 The reason is important because you cant fix a problem without understanding the problem. Hate is an emotion , Survival is a basic need.

[@liwill2683]

The sadness of our history is still happening today

[@moto-rambler]

Maybe those people "stuck with racism " not because of fear of losing control but because they were racist?

[@dlovukazi1815]

You can't be racist and a good person at the same time....

[@supacamoo]

🎯🎯

[@victormoreno9382]

As a Black Latino from another country I find this almost unbelievable but true never the less

[@tesmith47]

Latin America the same

[@Izannaziza]

Same for all diaspora no matter where you come from.

[@jibrilbuilder2668]

That’s the other country part imagine what it’s like for a Black born in America

[@tesmith47]

@@Izannaziza not true, Europeans have used their position of power to demonize BLACK people everywhere they control or wherever they have economic input they don't do that to anyone else

[@1619Mercy]

I believe it.

[@MrUndersolo]

This is why I love Mr. Hoffman's page. This reveals more about the other side than anything I have read in any number of books.

[@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker]

Thank you. David Hoffman filmmaker

[@yepisaidit100x]

I wish to thank the Lady for her honesty and explanation.