How Do Oneness Pentecostals Explain Paul's Greetings? | Episode 84

Paul’s epistles typically open with a greeting that refers to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. For example, in Romans 1:7 Paul wrote, “Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.” Trinitarians argue that the wording of these greetings is evidence of a distinction between members of the Godhead. How do Oneness Pentecostals respond to this assertion?
Dr. David K. Bernard addresses this question by examining these passages from the perspective of Paul's first-century readers. His response makes it clear that there is no distinction of persons between the God of the Old Testament and Jesus Christ.
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[@robertnieten7259]

Great video ! I would like to add for the benefit of protestant believers that all of Pauls' letters also have a greeting to " the saints of" indicating that his letters are not directed towards the unsaved but to already born again believers. Thus they are not speaking of how to be saved but further instructions in the faith to the saved.

[@brockcarroll5642]

This is a very problematic stance considering even Dr Bernard says in his book “the Message of Romans” that Romans has more verses about salvation than any other book in the Bible. So it has more verses about salvation than other book but it does not tell us how to be saved? Further to this, in Romans 1:15-16 Paul claims this letter is him preaching the Gospel unto salvation. Even outside of Romans there are so many verses in the epistles that are clearly explaining how we are saved, so I fail to see how you came to this understanding of the epistles.

[@robertnieten7259]

@@brockcarroll5642 Paul does teach about salvation in his epistles. How salvation is taught to already born again saints is different than how it would be taught to seekers. When taught to seekers it would be taught on a basic level giving only what is required in order to be saved. But the same teaching to saints would take the same plan of salvation and teach it giving it more depth in its explanation. Romans ch.10 :9 is a prime example. "That if thou confess with thy mouth and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved". Protestants traditionally will stop there in the teaching of what God requires from us in order to be saved. This verse alone would be sufficient to preach to seekers if it by itself was directed at them. But the thought is completed in vs.10, "For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation". The Word "unto" used twice in this verse is the Greek word eis. The word eis means "into" meaning starting at one point and arriving at another. This indicates that a process is involved. Just as being born physically involves a process so does being reborn spiritually. It is already apparent that repentance isn't present in these two verses neither is water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ mentioned as well as recieving the Holy Spirit. We are saved by believing into Christ. That requires our faith in action by obeying the plan of salvation first spoken by Peter in Acts 2:38 and followed by Paul in Acts ch.19. Lastly, being as how Paul's epistles are all directed " ..to the saints of.." his frequent mentioning of salvation is always expanded upon by Paul for believers who are already saved.

[@brockcarroll5642]

@@robertnieten7259 So Paul teaches about salvation but he doesn’t tell the whole story? He only tells part of the salvation plan and assumes they know the rest even though Romans is written to a church he had never visited before? In Galatians as Paul re-explains the gospel to them, he brings their salvation into question on multiple occasions but you would say he still leaves out aspects you would deem essential? I’m sorry, but that would be very irresponsible and reckless for the apostle to write that way. We could literally assume anything on to his words and make it mean anything if we don’t just take it at face value and claim he is missing essential parts. I don’t want to come off as harsh but your interpretation of Romans 10:10 seems like a huge stretch. Because the word “into” is found there, that means Romans 10:9 is actually pointing to a process that Paul never mentions in Romans or any of his other writings?? It seems you are coming to Romans with a prior understanding of salvation and trying to make Romans fit it rather than allowing Romans to say what it says. On top of this, I don’t want to assume what you believe, but it seems you think Acts is the book where Salvation was explained to the seeker? If that is the case, it needs to be pointed out that Luke wrote Acts to Theophilus who had already been instructed in the way of Christ according to Luke 1:1-4. He was already saved as well! This means Acts is also disqualified from explaining salvation to the seeker based on your own standard.

[@robertnieten7259]

@@brockcarroll5642 Thank you for your reply. The book of Acts, in a letter to a saint, is directed not just to him but to be read and taught to other saints in the church. Acts is unique in that it not only the the first account of believers being saved, Acts ch.2, but a historical progression of that message. Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven In Matt.16: 17-19 and he spoke them at Pentecost. Paul in his epistles, all of which begin with " To the saints of"isn't teaching them again the plan of salvation but expounding in depth upon something they already know. In a church Bible class you would teach differently concerning salvation than you would if you were appealing to the unsaved to be saved. In Galations Paul rebukes them as if they were unsaved, which he wouldn't do anyway, but for behaving as if they were not. My approach to Rom.10: 9,10 isn't based on something I was taught in a church, but as the result of private study as the Holy Spirit has taught me me how to rightly interpreting what is already plainly written in the two verses in the context in which they were written and to who they were written to.

[@rayroberts8487]

Paul taught the gospel is Jesus died, was buried and rose the third day also known as the death, burial and resurrection. He confirms what the original church taught and how he was converted. We should all know and agree that repentance is part of salvation process. Jesus teaches in John 3:1-8 that to see or enter the kingdom one must be born of the water and Spirit. In Luke 24:44 Jesus

[@kathleenwharton2139]

Thank You 🙏 Jesus for 💕 and Peace 😇

[@nicholasgranko8520]

Hello, this was an area that helped me accept oneness. I was so conditioned to think F,S ,HG and 3, that I was apprehensive to let go. I read and pondered these salutations a 100 times or more over my 1st year being introduced to Truth. There is one salutation where you could say there are 4: God, F, S and HG. They are conjunctive meaning God is the F and Lord Jesus. I'm saved by Grace thru Faith, oh wretched man that I am! TY, this podcast is powerful, simple and delivery is calm and concise. 😃

[@gimel77]

But there is also a greeting that says "Grace...from God the Father, and from Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father." Also another one that says "Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

[@nicholasgranko8520]

God used Father Abraham and promised him blessings. God is looking for a man to work thru, God used men to operate as priests after the resurrection, (Peter (Matt 16:19) announcing the KEYS to the Kingdom of God (KoG) which DO NOT contradict the Born Again (red letter) direction given in John 3:3, 5, 8 (notice we have to go thru John 3: 3, 5, 8 to get to John 3:16); we are children in the eyes of our SUPER God, how can we relate? The FULLNESS of the Godhead (F,S,HG) dwells in Christ bodily, No man has seen God at any time but God was "MANIFEST" in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory; another place it says "you've seen me, you've seen the Father, I and my Father are 1"; how many dots do we need to connect ? Paul says these to emphasize ONENESS a basic Jewish foundational concept. read as conjunctive (connecting) not as separate, it'll make a whole difference after you get past that hurdle. It is hard to break from tradition, seek Gods FACE and he will give you Knowledge and Understanding. In Love @@gimel77

[@gimel77]

@@nicholasgranko8520 So, the verses that I just shared with you; how would you view them in a conjunctive way?

[@nicholasgranko8520]

TY for this opportunity. Conjunctive meaning connecting implies adjoining together not dividing and separate. It is revelation from God opening our understanding. Each of us interprets the surroundings differently (color blind, being taught hate toward one another because of racial treatment or ethnicity, problem solving--some like the hammer...lol, etc.) initially I read versus as trinity (or multiple persons) because that is what I had heard for the 1st 25 years of my life and I did not put much other aspect such as oneness. I have a huge message titled The Definite Article, when "the" is placed in front of a proper noun it indicates or is suggesting a "known" element or quantity such as the Father, The Son, the Holy Ghost, So when instruction came to baptize in the Name of the F, the S, and the HG, there is no contradiction when Peter instructed baptism in the name Jesus for remission of sins, or others throughout the book of Acts. Name Jesus is conjunctive of 3 titles F, S, HG. Apostle Paul did not have a KJV Bible, he received revelation and sought God for 3 years after he was smitten on the road to Damascus. He was a Pharisee among Pharisee's, very staunch and zealous. The voice did not say this is the Son Jesus whom thou persecutes. Paul was and is a oneness Jew / Apostle. I spent a year rehearsing these salutations, the only rational was 1 conjunctive conveyance of this theology in an ungodly paganist world of multiple gods. God seeks us to worship in spirit and truth. knowing and understand oneness facilitates us worshipping correctly. We have to be blameless w/o spot or wrinkle with a clean heart. I pray revelation upon you in Jesus name. TY again@@gimel77

[@gimel77]

@@nicholasgranko8520 I asked about the two verses I referenced, specifically. Here are some specific references. 2 Corinthians 1:3 2 Corinthians 11:31 2 John 1:3 The wording in those verses. Any thoughts?

[@germanwulf40]

2 Corinthians 13:14 (KJV): "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen." As a Oneness Pentecostal, this verse has been driving me absolutely nuts for the past few months. I knew in my heart that there was no way it could be proof of the Trinity, but I also knew that I'd be stumped if any Trinitarian would use this against my beliefs. This video gives me the PERFECT explanation for it! Thank you so much, bro. Bernard!

[@wjdyr6261]

It is better to submit it all to God because it may not only be your own human frailties having difficulty, but the trinity is demonic, which means you're also being influenced. It happened to me in the late 90s while I was TDY in Riyadh and was only a new believer after being baptized in 96 in a UPC located in Oahu. I was being troubled by the trinity

[@germanwulf40]

@@wjdyr6261 Indeed. It's why I spend so much energy speaking out against the Trinity wherever I can.

[@KevinDay]

@@wjdyr6261 The unforgivable sin is attributing the work of the Holy Spirit to the demons. The Pharisees were accusing Jesus of casting out demons by demonic powers when he warned them about it. You'd better be VERY careful before calling other Christians demonic. If you insist that one side or the other is demonic, a much stronger case could be made that God was able to overcome evil, not that the church "lost the Spirit" for a bare minimum of 1700 years before some dude came a long and started running through a camp yelling thinking he'd figured it all out.

[@KevinDay]

I would also fully agree that you need to fully trust God... But shouldn't that mean letting his Word speak to you and not trying to fight it? The Holy Spirit inspired those words, and if they are working on your heart, then you should let him lead you to the truth, no matter how hard it is.

[@wjdyr6261]

@@KevinDay I'm 💯 % certain and know that the trinity is demonic and the doctrine of demons. I've experienced this firsthand. Jesus himself gave the revelation that God is an absolute numerical one. All that we will ever see or hear of God is Jesus. Not a 2d or 3rd

[@timoconnor892]

Thank you for the clarity

[@jonathanaton7149]

Love this man! Wow!

[@FoundationBibleStudies]

This is so good, thank you Brother Bernard!

[@andretresvant]

Powerful teaching amen Pastor” One God The Father who came in flesh functioning as the man Jesus Christ” we have God and his humanity” 2 functions of the One God

[@leahjames6870]

The Bible states none of that😌

[@andretresvant]

@@leahjames6870 1st John 3:1-2 - The Father is the one who came and they knew not, compare with The Gospel John 1:14 the same John is speaking, The Word is who they knew not and made the world John. 1:14, but the Word is the Father they knew not in 1st John 3:1-2 so the Father is who they knew not Another passage Colossians 1:19-22 (Here the Son is called the Body of the Father’s flesh” and it speaks of the Father doing the reconciliation to himself in use of the body

[@nelsonstiveens5140]

Excelente explicación desde Colombia

[@defenderofchritstianfait-yv8lw]

To Jesus be the glory now and forevermore. Amen!

[@hanklhayes]

I am so grateful that you covered this topic on video.

[@rayroberts8487]

I certainly agree with Bro Bernard and would just say that to me the reference is pointing out the natural man. The divine fullness of the godhead that dwelt in Jesus did not die on the cross. The natural man died, thereby paying the debt we cannot pay. His atonement enables us to be reconciled to God and be at peace with God.

[@afolabiawe4733]

So who resurrected with a glorious body that could touch and felt, God Himself or Jesus Christ?

[@rayroberts8487]

@@afolabiawe4733 Colossians 1:15 and Hebrews 1:3 along with John 4:24 shows God is A spirit that is eternal and invisible so we can say that Jesus Christ is the image or the express person of the one, invisible, eternal spirit. Since God is one spirit then holiness must be an attribute of that one spirit, hence when he interacts with man he says Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. Seeing that God is one spirit proven even more by the scriptures concerning gifts and different administrations that state it is the selfsame spirit working through us we can see by scripture that the Father and the Holy Spirit are the selfsame spirit. Now Jesus, himself, said the Father is greater than he so he cannot be a second person in a trinity because trinity states co-equal, co-eternal, etc and the man Christ Jesus was born under the law born of a woman. Trinity is an invention to turn people away from the one true God and turn man to worshipping man. You can verify this through several sources, the brittanica and Catholic encyclopedias. Trinity and its baptism came into existence two hundred years after Jesus and the apostles death.

[@Monotarian]

Natural man? Scripture says that By man sin entered and by MAN sin was removed..nothing in the text suggest a god man dies

[@rayroberts8487]

Right, however, many say God died on the cross. We know God is eternal, immortal so God can't die. That is why the eternal Spirit had to leave the man so the man could die for us causing the man Jesus to exclaim my God, my God why hasn't thou forsaken me. Then after 3 days the Spirit enters back into him and resurrects the man. Now here is a wonderful thing: the scripture declares that if the Spirit that raised Christ up dwells in you then He will raise you up.

[@Monotarian]

Ray do you not see what you are doing not only to God himself but to his Christ his one and only unique begotten human being? Your making it out as if the human was a part or a shell for the invisible to climb inside of and do the work when scripture points out how God created this unique human being to do what no other human could do for God.Peter preached HOW God…anointed Jesus of Nazareth Acts 2:22 Peter said nothing about God becoming his own Christ

[@theGodfella]

Incredible Insight. To God be the Glory. Blessed be His name.

[@zoremahlondo4632]

Lets watch

[@shirleywong9428]

Prayers for my children and I please amen

[@KG-hi1es]

Actually God had a name YHWH from beginning of time and should of been carried to the end of time. Forever. He Himself told Moses His name and said FOREVER! The J name was introduced by the trinitarians.

[@FirstLast-il8pf]

We serve a most divine and on time God! Thank you for this teaching. God bless you and the family😊💕

[@donaldgreathouse6611]

Very good, sir. Thank you and God bless you in Jesus' name!

[@angieayala4374]

Back in the days he had to use coded words without directly saying it. As Jesus used parables, so did he in some amazing and intelligent ways. God bless Paul always.

[@Rita.lovesjesus]

I attended a oneness church for a year and was never told what they believed about the trinity I was raised believing in the trinity, I started feeling some kinda way and feeling condemned when I didn't wear a dress all the time and felt guilty for going to other events outside of the church I felt the Pastor was being real when he would say I love ya sis and I was on fire for the Lord and I suddenly after being baptized again this time in Jesus name I prayed and asked God was it me and the next day I was watching KZbin and seen a show cultish and said UPCI church a cult.I was shocked by what they believe I never went back to that church I messaged the associate Pastor and asked him some questions and he confirmed what I had seen. Thank God for discernment

[@robertnieten7259]

It is true that many of the holiness standards in oneness churches years ago did more to keep seekers from coming to Christ than to draw them to Him. The Oneness churches have recognized that and considerably relaxed them, most of their churches holiness standards, though some still hold on to them. Find an apostolic pentecostal church that has relaxed them, I have.

[@UlieWalksWithTheKing]

This was excellent. Oneness is SO simple, once our LORD Yeshua reveals it to you. ❤❤❤

[@robertfuller2084]

Great

[@charlessnyder6409]

Kaì can be translated= even or namely. If you notice that in every greeting "God the Father" first, then the word "and". It comes from the Greek word "kai". It has many definitions. It can mean "and" or among the other definitions "even" which means, "namely". Which is probably the reason they always mention the name after God the Father first, then The Lord Jesus Christ.

[@hargisP2]

The God of Two Testaments.. very good book.

[@gimel77]

But in one verse, it says "from God our Father, and from Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father." This is a clear distinction between the two. And it is in no way a Trinitarian statement. It's along the lines of "one God, and one mediator."

[@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq]

Paul continually differentiates between the two. Read his letters.

[@MichaelTheophilus906]

John 17.3, John 20.17, Rev 3.2, Rev 3.12.

[@davemenches3995]

The trinity is non biblical lol.

[@joelohberger3221]

It make me very hapy that you do these podcasts well spoken word

[@erembroidery9473]

Praise God amen and amen

[@hike2024]

This is the best explanation of this I've ever heard. This actually disproves the Trinity... wow.

[@MichaelTheophilus906]

Deut 4:35-39, Zech 14:9, 1 Kings 18:21, Mark 12:28-29, 32; John 20:17, Luke 18:19, John 17:3, John 20:17, Rev 1:6, Rev 3:2, Rev 3:12.

[@astheboxchevyrolls2350]

Doesn't disprove the trinity there is still 3 nature's of God but they are one!

[@glendagaskin151]

Nothing can disprove the Trinity because it is taught throughout the Bible. Especially the New Testament

[@shanewilson2270]

@@glendagaskin151 BG the trinity isn’t taught. The Godhead is in scripture and Jesus Christ is the fullness there in

[@Oldman808]

Rubbish! Jesus said, “No man nor I know the hour of my return, but my Father knows.” How anybody can believe the Oneness doctrine after reading that scripture is beyond me.

[@GodlyDating101]

Amazing explanation

[@mgonz5914]

Amen 🙏

[@dreamarichards4972]

Wonderfully and greatly explained! Thank you Brother Bernard!! God bless you!

[@hendriknieuwenhuizen4397]

I read to a Jehovah Witness 1 John 5: 7-8. He was staggered and amazed. I also showed him Revelations 1;8. He ran away.

[@dutch1995]

I doubt that. They wouldn't understand 1 John 5 the same way you do because they're not modalist or oneness and Revelation 1 doesn't say what you think it does. In verse 8, Yahweh is the Father, not the Son and that's clear from actually reading more than a verse at a time. Please read the whole book starting at the beginning.

[@Tmb31]

Excellent job Bishop 🙏🏽

[@Lethal100]

This is beautifully expressed. Hallelujah The Lord our God is One Lord. Thankyou and God bless. 🙏💙

[@ManWithABible]

Praise The Lord Jesus!

[@timothyjdingman]

How do I know if I’m fasting correctly? What’s the right way to begin and to end a fast in a way that pleases the Lord? How do I know if the Lord is acknowledging the fast or if I’m just going hungry?

[@andrewgadson89]

Firstly off,ye need to know that you are born again. Next you need to ask God to show you what to fast and pray for. Then go on fasting and praying. Hope this helps you!

[@juliosantos652]

Great explanation thanks for sharing.

[@ryanestess6919]

This is a very round about answer. The straightforward reading is that there is a distinction between the Father and Jesus.

[@SamC_182]

Yup, Trinity is correct

[@dreameruy9510]

​@@SamC_182 What are their names...?

[@SamC_182]

@@dreameruy9510 they share the divine name, Jesus said to baptize them in the NAME, singular, if the Father, Son, & Holy Spirit

[@redbeard7985]

Hallelujah 🙏🏻 thank you so much,my Bible reads exactly the same way!!

[@angieayala4374]

The flesh is the distinction. God is Spirit but in Crust He dwelled among us.

[@Oscar-Bound]

Amen.

[@lupeguadalupe9311]

Micah 5: 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting

[@NavyO5]

After listening, I had this thought. Before the establishment of the tabernacle, people called on God. After the establishment of the tabernacle, people called on God through the tabernacle; the tabernacle that God established. The tabernacle prefigured God’s salvation through Jesus (God manifest in flesh). Therefore, we now call on God through His name, Jesus. New Testament salutations acknowledge this Godly progression.

[@anthonybardsley4985]

In ephesians 4.5 one lord one faith ONE GOD and father of us all.

[@joelohberger3221]

Amen Amen

[@shirleywong9428]

Amen

[@BibleStudywithVernon]

Or you can trust that the Holy Spirit clearly communicated what Paul was to write. Basically, you’re saying we can’t trust the plain interpretation given to us.

[@NikkNakk83]

Amen! Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. John 16:13 KJV

[@jsecretfightertv.]

How do you explain John 1:1-3

[@undertheshadowofthealmight1571]

Greetings, brother! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made" (John 1:1-3). !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The biggest mistake of Trinitarians is to assume that "the Word" is the man Christ Jesus, when the text clearly states that "the Word was God." Moreover, there are ample texts that state that there is only One God, the Father (1 Cor. 8:6; Jn. 17:3; 1 Tim. 2:5). So to read v. 14, "the Word was made flesh," then read this back into v. 1, "the Word was God" is to pervert the text. It is as if to say, my mother gave birth to me, therefore, I am my mother. Instead, it was God (the Father), the maker of all things, who was made flesh. That is who the Son of God was, God made flesh, God with us in the flesh. The Son was not a "person" of God, but God made flesh, the man Christ Jesus. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one" (1 John 5:7). !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The above are not three, or three-in-one, but One: One God, three titles/names. The Word was made flesh, the man Christ Jesus, conceived of the Holy Spirit. Not "persons" of God but manifestations of the One Spirit who is God. God is the Word, which is Spirit, and God is that Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit that proceeds out of the mouth of God and is God. Grace and Peace to you -james

[@gimel77]

There is a genuine distinction made in Paul's greetings. But it's not between two divine persons, it's along the lines of "one God, and one mediator." One God, and one man. This is the distinction being made.

[@Monotarian]

Let us not forget Paul writing too the Ephesians Ephesians 1:3 (NKJV) Blessed [be] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly [places] in Christ.. yes you read that right..The God and Father of.. how many times have you read this and explained it away? There is no need to insert (the flesh part or his other nature etc as THAT is NOT in that scripture .

[@RebeccaMills-vj6gr]

Just some friendly contribution and clarity: Matthew 3:17 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” God clearly states in scripture MY SON showing that the father (God) son (Jesus) and Holyspirit (comforter, teacher, guide) is relational. Jesus is the son of God we also know that Jesus sits on the right hand of God interceding for us the father son and holy spirit are one, one God, God works in these three ways, they are relational and are one at the same time. Also its so important to study, teach, and speak scripture verse by verse. To see what a picture of a jigsaw puzzle is you can't pluck random pieces you need all the pieces together or you will misapply and misinterpret the picture, the bible is exactly the same. Context is key, always, I hope this helps someone ❤.

[@521talent]

After listening to this, my Trinitarian position is stronger. I don’t know why I was expecting a more convincing argument..

[@bobjames3748]

Where is the missing Holy Spirit and all these passages? How come you people don't believe what the scripture says to us there is but one God the Father! There is no such thing as a trinity it's not in the Bible or god the son or god the Holy Spirit they aren't either nor first person, second person, third person, persons, three persons. You make up extra biblical terms and think that that supports your position it doesn't. Why are you exactly like Mormons or Seventh Day Adventists with extra biblical words and phrases as they are with their books and writings they count as such?? Tell us who was God in John 1:1.?

[@bobjames3748]

Convincing argument for me is there is no such thing called the Trinity tri-unity first person second person third person three persons persons or got the sun god the Holy Ghost eternal son Triune deity all of that is man-made philosophy. His explanation is too deep for trinitarian to understand they are blinded to the truth and follow Catholicism in a Triad or polytheism or specifically Tritheism. This is why David Bernard crushes a trinitarian in debates. Trinitarians do not believe in one God they believe in three God as in the word sheep you could say one two sheep three sheep, thus you could say one god two god three god. I know that trinitarians never tell us who God is in John 1:1 Cuz they don't know what or who God is! Trinitarians are part of mystery Babylon the great the mother of harlots and the abominations of the earth Revelation 17:5. They have been Godless murderers ever since they started. Catholics killed millions CS Lovett says 50 to 68 million. Protestant so they didn't kill as many definitely killed their fair share to show they were never true Christians but a false teaching religious sect of mother Rome.

[@leahjames6870]

You are the opposite of Jesus, he wasn’t a trinitarian🌿

[@521talent]

@@leahjames6870 of course I’m the opposite of Jesus. He’s God. I’m a human in need of grace.

[@leahjames6870]

@@521talent Perhaps you didn’t understand my comment🙂You spoke of your “trinitarian position”. I said you are the opposite of Jesus. Jesus was not a trinitarian, yet you are. So you are the opposite of Jesus.

[@TheSoulWinnersGuide]

N.T. distinction language is indeed inherited Hebraic idiomatic religious expression. This is distinction of function NOT of persons. O.T. Jews used distinction language to differentiate between God in His perpetual omnipresent spirit state or mode (transcendence) and His visible state or mode in the Logos expressed (immanence). Pretty good job Dr. Bernard. This basic linguistic subject is not very well known by most people. I hope your video helps many be exposed to it.

[@luciodelarosa1960]

Why I's Dr Bernard denying what's written?

[@bobjames3748]

He explained fully how it is. Where is the third person the Holy Spirit you trinitarians have a godhead that is not co-equal. You don't even realize that what was called trinitarianism was tritheists ideas. But to us there is but one God the Father. Why don't you believe that? Nowhere is there a god the son or a god the Holy Spirit. We can't even get you people to tell us who God is and John 1:1 you avoid that question like the plague.

[@luciodelarosa1960]

@@bobjames3748 was the father baptized? Was the father in Mary's womb?did the father died?

[@th-rd2xh]

Why do you only include Trinity in your discussions. Why not tackle the Unitarian (2) view also.

[@Mitch_Caldwell7]

What about 2 Corinthians 13:14? It's the same this as John 14:25-26

[@dannyboy6598]

I need you to explain n reply my comments on the error & oneness of God. If u pastor a church or hv followers, u must. Bible says, LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE. Explain US. Jesus said PRAY TO THE FATHER IN MY NAME. You are not obeying Jesus. Can you pray to the Father if Jesus is the Father. It looks foolish. So how do u pray. Bible says ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MAN, THE MAN JESUS CHRIST. 2 persons here & if u believe Jesus is God. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. Again 2 persons here. God is a triune Godhead but still one.

[@NikkNakk83]

Amen!!!

[@dreameruy9510]

Jesus said I am the Son of God ( Not God the Son) Jesus said the Holy Ghost is comforter ( Not God the Holy Ghost) The scripture says Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God (2Jn1:9) Where did Jesus teach God the Son and God the Holy Ghost...?

[@karlstine2065]

Human beings make everything complicated. Especially the experts.

[@NikkNakk83]

Good understanding giveth favour: but the way of transgressors is hard. Proverbs 13:15 KJV

[@armyantlocsta]

“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the SIMPLICITY that is in Christ.” -2nd Corinthians 11

[@Bendecido1973]

Thats very clear

[@timoconnor892]

Amen Lord and savior

[@kchilz32]

David always jumping through hoops

[@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq]

Dr Bernard is quite right to point out that the greetings in Paul's letters should certainly not be understood in Trinitarian terms. He rightly highlights that Paul sends greetings from only two (never three) and Paul differentiates between the Lord God (Yahweh) and the Lord messiah, Jesus. Indeed, one is the God of the other (2 Cor 1 :3; Eph 1 :3) But having just said that we should try to understand this as first century Jewish and gentile Christians would, he then projects his own presupposition on the text. If we just read all of Paul's greetings - and I suggest you do- we will clearly see that Paul differentiated between God and Jesus. One is the Lord God (YHWH) and the other is the lord messiah(Jesus). They are two different entities, two different beings. One is the eternal God; the other is the messiah who died on the cross and was raised to sit at the right hand of God. The Jesus of the gospels had a God and prayed to him. (Mat 6 :9,10). The resurrected Jesus had a God. (John 20 :17 ). The glorified Jesus in heaven itself still has a God.(Rev 3 :12) Reject Dr Bernard's false teachings !

[@diosdadoapias]

The problem with Trinity is how could be that God the Father and the Son are consubstantial and co-equal. The Bible does not say that God and the Son are made of the same substance. God had begotten the Son from what? Did the Son came from the body of God so that the Son could be of same substance as the Father. Their essence could be different as one has no beginning being unbegotten;the other was begotten by the unbegotten. They are both divine or God but the Father Almighty is greater than what he has begotten. as the Son said, my Father is greater than I. In John 6:38 Jesus said for I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. This is not a statement of co-equality. What could be misinterpreted that the Father and Son are co-equal is that since all authority has been given to Jesus in heaven and on earth(Matt.28:18 ) including the power to give eternal life(John 17:2) The Son is now considered co-equal of the Father. There is a law giver (God )who can bestow power and authority (to Jesus) without this law giver the Son can be powerless.

[@ljbrown238]

Outstanding explanation!!! Thank God for the revelation of the Mighty God in Christ! At this Christmas season, consider this passage: Isaiah 9:6 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. The “child” Jesus WAS the Mighty God AND Everlasting Father at the same time!!! Hence the explanation Jesus gives to Phillip, which makes this crystal clear: John 14:9-10 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. ONE PERSON, ONE GOD, manifested as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. ONE SAVING NAME, JESUS!!!

[@mt9567]

Thank You!..... SHEEEEESH! Claiming this as a 'trinity' scripture when there's only 2/3 of a 'trinity' mentioned seems foolish to me. A 33.3% reduction is no trinity at all. It's only a 'bi-nity'!! Plus, "God the Holy Spirit" hardly ever gets any attention from these cultish Trinitarians. Shouldn't "God the Holy Spirit" get more respect??? He doesn't even have a distinctive name like the other two, and they seem to hog all the glory. The other two never talk to him either! It's just not fair! They're all supposed to be co-equal......... right? 😏

[@hillb4642]

Lol.. very good. Love it.

[@KingdomUploader]

Eventually, Paul would say simply that, "I preach Christ and Him crucified."! Where in the bible are believers even instructed to define the mysterious essence of God? Maybe that's none of our business? I certainly can't see the doctrine of the trinity being crucial to our salvation or to our calling.

[@ryanestess6919]

“Then comes the end, when he (Jesus) delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For “God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15‬:‭24‬-‭28‬ ‭ESV‬‬ There is clearly a distinction between the Father and Son in Paul’s theology.

[@dreameruy9510]

Are you saying there are 2 Gods...?

[@wjdyr6261]

The difference is that God is Spirit and his manifestation in the NT is the Son. God the Father became his own Son

[@ryanestess6919]

@@dreameruy9510 no. I can saying that according to Paul, both the Son and the Father are equally God but separate personalities at the same time.

[@ryanestess6919]

@@wjdyr6261 God is not limited to manifesting himself as the Spirit Father or Son at one time. He is not limited by time itself because he made time. All three were equally present at the same time at Jesus’ baptism for instance.

[@wjdyr6261]

@ryanestess6919 that's your opinion. The one thing that God is not above is his word. He says he's an absolute numerical one, unique, alone and without equal.

[@darlenemccleary5700]

So let me ask a question?? If your oneness believing in one God, one name and one baptism then why would you use two names?? Yahwah in the old testament is the same Yahwah in the new testament!! Right??

[@areyousavedacts238]

Yahweh is 4 letters in Hebrew YHWH יהוה and it isn’t a name it means “I am”

[@chriscurtis1578]

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He would lie, Nor a son of man, that He would change His mind; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow due to change. 1 Samuel 15:29 Also the Glory of Israel will not lie nor change His mind; for He is not a man, that He would change His mind.” Clearly from reading the above passages God does not lie nor does He ever change. The puzzling thing I see here is God (first person of the Trinty) says that He is not a son of man. Jesus (second person) on the other hand claimed to be the Son of God and the Son of man. How is this possible? How can God the Father say He is not a man or a son of man, yet Jesus was born a man, lived as a man, died as a man, and claimed He was the Son of man. John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, (third person) whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. John 15:26 When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father--the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father--He will testify about Me. Here we read Jesus is promising His disciples that He will send from His Father another Helper, Advocate, who has already been with them and will eventually live inside them. The Greek word used for another ἄλλον (allon) means Strong's 243: Other, another (of more than two), different. A primary word; 'else, ' i.e. Different. Again, the second person of the Trinity is sending from the first person a third person. One God, three persons. We don't have to be an audience from the day of Jesus or Paul to understand these verses. It is no more difficult to believe the doctrine of the Trinity than it is to believe Jesus was 100% God and also 100% man.

[@kevinwhelan8126]

1 John 5 There are three who bear witness… … and THESE THREE ARE ONE.

[@ranospiteri5776]

If you pull out your phone, and you ask Siri ‘Who started (and you can name any religion)?’ ‘Siri, who started the Methodist Church?’ Siri, who started the Mormon Church?’ She’ll come back and say ‘Joseph Smith’. If you say, ‘Siri, who started the Baptist Church?’ She’ll say John Smyth’. ‘ If you say Siri, who started the Episcopalian Church?’ She’ll say ‘Samuel Seabury’. If you ask Siri ‘Who started the Catholic Church?’ it says ‘Jesus Christ.’

[@Fr4nkSanchez]

LOL And you believe SIRI. In fact Catholic church started with mixing pagan babylonian teaches with christianity. You should read the book "the two babylons by Alexander Hislop

[@michaelnygard8193]

So is Jesus the “Son of God”? Do you believe that he is also fully the son?

[@Monotarian]

Ray, I will also remind you that the beloved KJV is indeed a Trinitarian translation and one must be careful with some scriptures as Isaiah 9:6 is used by many to assume Jesus is God.

[@Fr4nkSanchez]

I think this could be interpreted as follow. There are different dimensions, we live in a 3 dimensional space, there's another dimensional space, the spiritual that we cannot see because we are restricted with our dimensional space, the only way we could see God is to become in our space. So he gave his son that is the same God but "manifested in flesh". Now, we can debate for years. At the end the conclusion is only one GOD not three. However, I do debate with oneness pentecostal members because the are being indoctrinated that everybody else is pagan, its like cursing your brethen.

[@11304800]

Where are the scriptures that prove what your speaking about??

[@brianguglielmin2873]

The Son and Spirit are Sent from the Father to be God Manifest among us as Savior and Sanctifier. Otherwise the Father Sends Himself and changes His Titles and is Father in Three Titles at Sons Baptism relating to Himself.

[@joelrubio5173]

The only way to be saved is to get baptized?

[@terryhatcher7271]

You keep having to explain a lot 😉

[@sd5269]

It is all seen right here. For there is one God and one mediator between God and man, the man, Christ Jesus.… Two entities. God and the man. Aka, God inside the man. Not, God as the man.

[@christiandekker219]

DAVID, REMEMBER THAT THE ENGLISH WORD "AND" IN THE GREEK HAS 6 DIFFERENT MEANINGS AND THE CORRECT CONTEXTUAL MEANING IN THE 1611 KJV BIBLE, IS "AKA", OR SPECIFICLY, EVEN, SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING OF". "OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, AKA, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST". THESE MEANINGS ARE CONTEXTUALLY CORRECT AT LEAST 60% OF THE TIME AND IN THE GREEK IT MEANS "ALSO" ONLY ABOUT 10 TO 20% OF THE TIME.

[@dreameruy9510]

The scripture says Whosoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God (2jn1:9) Where did Jesus teach Yahweh...?

[@jweatherf]

The New Testament can be understood much more clearly if you keep in mind what Dr Bernard was pointing out. Much of it was written to convince and reinforce the truth of the manifestation of God in the flesh and the necessity of believing in Jesus for salvation. 1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also Exactly as Dr Bernard explained, it was no longer good enough to say I believe in the eternal, invisible God. If we believe in Jesus, we have the Father, but if we neglect Jesus we have no access to the Father.

[@NikkNakk83]

Jesus is eternal and invisible. Please provide scripture that supports the idea that it is no longer good enough to say I believe in the eternal, invisible God.

[@robertnieten7259]

In the old testament, God was Spirit/ Spirit, Soul ,and Body. When He was manifested in the flesh, He became Spirit/ spirit, soul, and body. When He rose from the dead, and was glorified, He once again became Spirit/Spirit,Soul,and Body. God has always had a duality of Spirit ,which is one Spirit. In the mind of God, when it comes to Himself and His children,spiritually, 1+1=1.

[@raymondperez1131]

Jehovah witnesses also believe in oneness..On the Trinity,why would Jesus teach to baptize in the name of The Father The Son and of the Holy spirit..??..

[@claudiozanella256]

No trinity exists. It was not understood that God in Person sends the Spirit, but that Spirit is the SAME GOD (almighty) who is a spirit, NOT A THIRD PERSON (this is why Jesus NEVER MENTIONS a THIRD person with Him!). Thus no third person exists. The "Spirit of God" (aka Holy Spirit) is actually originated by God (the "normal" God) who is AWAY in a distant dimension "No man has seen God at any time." "the world did not know you". You can see in the gospels that EVERYTHING is carried out by that Spirit here on earth, NOT PERSONALLY by God: the Spirit of God dealt with Mary's pregnancy, spoke when Jesus was baptized, led Jesus into the desert, later helped Him in speaking too. Further, the Spirit of God ("Spirit of your Father") also helped the apostles in speaking. "God is a spirit" (Jn. 4:24) i.e. the only one Spirit who is present here is God, almighty.

[@THENARRATIVTestimonies]

Pauls greetings mean exactly what they say. No need for scripture gymnastics.

[@brianguglielmin2873]

John 8 speaks of Two Witnesses being the Father and His Son. Deuteronomy 19:15 Facts established by two witnesses. The US, OUR, WE as well reveals Plural Persons in One God and Distinctions and Relationship of Co equal Persons in One God.

[@davidscheller6725]

The Following Scriptures Prove Who Jesus Really Is And That He Is Much More Than Just The Son Of God. Deuteronomy 6:4, “Hear O Israel: the Lord our God is ONE Lord.” Then several thousand years later Jesus said in John 10:30, “I and my Father are ONE.” Exodus 3:13-14 states that before Moses came down from the mountain with the Ten Commandments he asked God who shall he say sent him. God said I AM THAT I AM, tell them I AM SENT YOU. Then several thousand years later Jesus said in John 8:58 "Verily, verily I say unto you, before Abraham was, "I AM." God did not reveal what His name was until Matthew 1:23-25, "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted, GOD WITH US." 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her first born son and called his name JESUS." Jesus said in John 17:21, “That they all may be one, as thou art in ME, and I in YOU, that they also may be one in us, that the world may believe that you have sent me.” Matthew 26:15 states that Judas Iscariot (the disciple that betrayed Jesus), “What will you give me if I will deliver him to you? And they (the Chief Priests) weighed out 30 pieces of silver.” Note back in Zechariah 11:12 in the Old Testament it says, “And I said unto them, If you think good, give ME my price and if not forbear. So they weighed for my price 30 pieces of silver.” Note that is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob talking about HIMSELF after He became a MAN and before He was crucified. It says in John 19:34, “But one of the Soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came out blood and water. “Note back in Zechariah 12:10 it says, “....and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him...” Also in Zechariah 13:6 it says, “And one shall say to him (Jesus), What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those are which I was wounded in the house of my friends.” Psalms 22:16, “For dogs have compassed me, the assembly of the wicked have enclosed me, they pierced my hands and my feet.” Also in the Old Testament - Isaiah 53:5, “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities, the chastisement of our piece was upon him, and with his stripes we are healed.” Note that is the FATHER of the Old Testament referring to HIMSELF as He was hanging on the cross. Mark 15:24, “And when they had crucified him, they parted his garments, casting lots for them, what every man should take.” Note back in Psalms 22:18 in the Old Testament it says, “They part my garments among them and cast lots upon my vesture.” Note that is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob referring to HIMSELF as He was hanging on the cross. Acts 7:59, "And they stoned Stephen, calling upon GOD, and saying LORD JESUS, receive my spirit." John 19:29, “Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar, and they filled a sponge with vinegar and put it on a hyssop, and put it to his mouth.” Note back in Psalms 69:21 it says, “They gave ME also gall for my meat and in my thirst they gave ME vinegar to drink.” Jesus said in John 5:39, “Search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life, and they are they which testify of ME.” Jesus is referring to the scriptures in the Old Testament which are referring to HIMSELF before he took on flesh and became a man. (John 1:1, 10 and 14) Paul said in Galatians 1:12 that he was not taught by any man but was taught directly by Jesus himself, which means that whatever Paul said was exactly what Jesus told him to say. Paul said in Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the SON he saith, Thy throne O GOD is forever and ever.” Jesus said in John 12:44-45, “He that believes on me believes not on me, BUT ON HIM THAT SENT ME. 45 And he that sees ME sees HIM that sent ME.” John 14:8-10, “Philip said to Jesus, Lord, show us the Father and it will satisfy us. 9 Jesus said unto him, Have I been so long a time with you and yet you have not known me Philip? He that has seen me HAS SEEN THE FATHER, and how do you say now, show us the Father?” 10 Believe thou not that I am in the Father and the Father in me? The words I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the Father that DWELLS IN ME - HE DOES THE WORKS.” Jesus said in John 14:28, “....for my Father is greater than I.” In other words, that paragraph is saying that the flesh and blood man Jesus did not heal the sick or raise the dead - the FATHER which dwelt INSIDE Him did those works, which He and the Father are ONE, which explains why Jesus said the Father is greater than he is. Paul said in 2 Corinthians 5:19, “To wit that God was IN Christ, reconciling the world unto HIMSELF." Paul said in Colossians 2:8-10, “Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in HIM dwells all the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily. 10 And you are complete in HIM (Jesus), which is the head of all principality and power.” The Godhead is IN Jesus - JESUS IS THE GODHEAD. Jesus said in Matthew 23:37, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you that killed the prophets and stoned them which are sent unto you, how often would I have gathered your children together even as a hen gathered chickens under her wings, and you would not listen!” That is a very interesting scripture because Jesus is speaking as the flesh and blood man he was at that time but ALSO speaking as the FATHER (they are ONE) and referring to a time long before Jesus was born. In the book of Revelation, all of the following is JESUS speaking: Rev. 1:8, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which is to come, the ALMIGHTY.” Rev. 1:17-18, “And when I saw him (John speaking) I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not, I am the first and the last. 18 I am he that lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore. Amen, and have the keys of hell and of death.” Rev. 2:7, “He that has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT says unto the Churches....” Rev. 2:8, “And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write - These things says the first and the last, which was dead and is alive.” Rev. 2:11, “He that has an ear let him hear what the SPIRIT says unto the Churches....” Rev. 21:6-7, “And he said unto me, (John), It is done, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the waters of life freely. 7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his GOD, and he shall be my SON.” All the scriptures above prove the ONENESS of God and that there is no such thing as the Trinity. We get the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in the Name Jesus, which is why every time water Baptism was done in the Name Jesus, or in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, meaning Jesus name was invoked at baptism, which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7-8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16. At no time did Jesus disciples use any combination of the words Father, Son, and Holy Ghost when they baptized anyone in water, or use a combination of those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. If you are convinced you need to get Baptized in water in Jesus Name and get Baptized with the Holy Ghost, do a search, type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll slightly down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, then a screen will show a Church nearest you that will do that. If you do that you will making SURE your name is written in the Lamb's Book Of Life. Jesus said in Matthew 24:4,"Take heed that no man deceives you." Jesus also said in John 10:27,"My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me."

[@paulsingleterry1604]

This is all good stuff. Im studying for an upcoming bible study with a muslim friend of mine. Thank you

[@NikkNakk83]

Amen! I appreciate your post! The knockout for me was Col 2:9...."For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Colossians 2:9 KJV

[@leewhite675]

There is a shortage of upc churches and upc pastors in every city county and parish in the usa.its the responsibility of the congregation to create a need for more upc churches in their own cities

[@reynaldolomio3844]

Father and Lord Jesuschrist, to God and his Word (Jesuschrist) the exact image of God, Father is Word Son is Word. Word of God become Flesh not the Father become Flesh or God become Flesh. Father God is the only saviour, Jesus God sent for the saviour for the sin of the world big difference.

[@saintmichael9736]

WHO CARES EXALT JESUS CHRIST AND PROCLAIM YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN ♥

[@ofmiceandmandrakes1005]

In Jn 1:18 None has seen God at any time. However in Exodus 33:23 Moses sees God. How is this possible unless Moses saw the eternal Son of God? It doesn't say no one at any time has seen God's face. It says has not seen God at ANY time but the only begotten Son he has declared him John 1:18 (KJV) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Exodus 33:23 (KJV) And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

[@wjdyr6261]

Did Moses see the one and only true God or did he see the 1st or 2d or 3rd person?

[@FLDavis]

John : 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Jesus Is Equal with God Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. The Authority of the Son Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. Joh 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Philippians 2: 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Colossians 1:15-20 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. The Rider on a White Horse Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

[@CristhianSG]

you accept the importance of the Son, but at the same time, you deny it

[@jojo14deguzman89]

The problem in Oneness belief is on the last day when the Lord Jesus will return. Its(Oneness) teaching must add these imaginary words : The Holy Spirit must come out from ALL believers and go to heaven to become Jesus Christ again and to come down again to those believers who do not have His Holy Spirit. Does Jesus have to become Holy Spirit again and enter/dwell to believers to make them His again on that day of His return? But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Romans 8:9

[@timoconnor892]

We have to recognize the HOLY GHOST is Jesus

[@NikkNakk83]

I have not read that. Please provide the scripture because I would like to genuinely know.

[@NikkNakk83]

But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26 KJV

[@daltonjames8466]

@@NikkNakk83 “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” ‭‭John‬ ‭14‬:‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Jesus spoke of Himself being the Comfortor

[@NikkNakk83]

@@daltonjames8466 So Jesus will send himself as the comforter??? But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: John 15:26 KJV

[@dreameruy9510]

​@@NikkNakk83 The Holy Ghost is Spirit of Christ Acts 5:3 Peter said Ananias, why Satan filled thine heart, to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land..? (9) Peter said unto her , how is it, that you ye have agreed together to temp the Spirit of the Lord..? JESUS SPIRIT IS HOLY GHOST Jesus said God is Spirit (Jn 4: 24) Jesus said it is the Spirit gives life the flesh profit nothing the Words that I speak Unto you are Spirit and are life jn6: 63 JESUS FLESH= profit nothing, he is a Man, Son of man and Son of God hung and died on the Cross JESUS SPIRIT= is the Father gives life, his Words are Spirit and are life Paul said for what man knows the things of a man except the Spirit of a man which is in him..? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God (1Cort 2:11) Jesus said I my Father house there are many mansions Jesus said I am one bear witness of myself and the Father Who sent me bear witness of me (Jn 8:18) QUESTION who is the Father that bear witness of Jesus..? ANSWER This is he who came by Water and Blood Jesus Christ not by Water Only, but by Water and Blood and it is the SPIRIT bear witness m the SPIRIT IS TRUTH (1JN5:6) JESUS SPIRIT IS TRUTH JESUS SPIRIT IS THE FATHER JESUS SPIRIT IS THE WORD JESUS SPIRIT IS LIFE JESUS SPIRIT IS THE HOLY GHOST 1Jn5:7 THREE RECORD IN HEAVEN, The Father, The Word, and the Holy Ghost these three are One=JESUS SPIRIT 1Jn5:8 THREE WITNESS ON EARTH, Spirit, Water, and Blood, these three are One=JESUS FLESH He was in the world and the World was made by him and the World knew him not (Jn1:10) THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM Jesus made the World ALONE Isa 44 24 Thus saith the LORD thy redeemer and he that formed thee from the womb, I AM the Lord that MAKES ALL THINGS, That stretcheth forth the HEAVENS ALONE, that spread abroad THE EARTH BY MYSELF He came to his own but his own but his own receive him not ( Jn1:11) Why ..? Because their Father God is Jehovah, Yahweh, Adonai, Elohim, Yhwh, ect Isa 45:5 I AM the Lord and there is none else THERE IS NO GOD BESIDE ME, I girded thee, though thou has not known me. Paul said yet for us there is but ONE GOD the Father of whom are all things and One Lord Jesus Christ (1Cort 8:6) ONE GOD THE FATHER ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST Paul said God was manifest in the flesh (1tim3 :16) His name is JESUS And declared TO BE the Son of God from the seed of David according to the Flesh (ROM 1:3 -4) SON OF GOD ( NOT GOD THE SON) John said for many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ come in the flesh this is Deceiver An Antichrist (2jn1:7) God said to Moses I Am who I Am exo 3:14 Paul said God was manifest in the flesh Jesus said before Abraham was I AM God is I AM Jesus is I AM Jesus said I am come in my Father's name Jesus said to his disciples baptizing them in the name of the Father son and the holy ghost (Mat 28:19) No APOSTOLES baptized in the name of the Father son and the holy ghost Peter said Repent and be baptized everyone of you in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST For the remission of sin and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost (ACTS 2:38) Paul said but even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be Accursed Gal (1: 8)

[@melchoraccibal3168]

Galatians 1: 1 The distinction between the Two Beings is undeniable. John 17:3 NIV.

[@ws775]

In fact it sounds like God and Father are separate.

[@theodoreritola7641]

The NIV Is very SATANIC ,,

[@dreameruy9510]

​@@ws775 Jesus is the TRUE GOD Jesus Spirit is the Father

[@dannyboy6598]

Will someone reply my comment. I've given enough verses to prove tht God is a triune Godhead. How could jesus pray to the Father if he was the Father. N jesus said, pray to the Father in my name. Does this tell u tht it's 1 person. Looks like those who believe in oneness, don't pray to the Father in Jesus' name. Yet u are preachers

[@wjdyr6261]

Who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity?

[@dannyboy6598]

@@wjdyr6261 don't worry about who said trinity. Jesus said when u pray, pray to the Father in my name. Now how do u pray to the Father if jesus is the Father. So u are disobeying jesus. N how does jesus sit at the right hand of the Father when jesus is the Father. So if trinity is wrong, then answer these questions. N jesus said, the Father will send the Holy Spirit. So if the holy spirit is the Father, n jesus is the Holy Spirit, why did jesus hv to leave in order tht the Holy Spirit may come

[@dannyboy6598]

@@wjdyr6261 so my friend u are not praying to the Father in jesus' name as jesus taught.

[@wjdyr6261]

@@dannyboy6598 I'll answer your question after you have answered mine. 😉

[@dannyboy6598]

@@wjdyr6261 I think u know tht the cath Church coined TRINITY

[@sd5269]

Before the Trinity was invented, and Pentecost came out from the Trinity movement, the early church taught that there was God and the man Christ, Jesus, not God as the man Christ Jesus. Oneness is just another form of trinitarianism by teaching hypostatic union as the Trinitarians do.

[@wjdyr6261]

Who coined the word trinitas or trinity and who formulated the doctrine of the trinity? Is Jesus the mystery, the revelation and the glory of God or is it the trinity?

[@jojo14deguzman89]

The LORD JESUS is coming back on the last day. Shall the HOLY SPIRIT must leave the believers on that day and go to heaven to become Jesus Christ and return? (Return to the believers who do not have the Holy Spiri in them?) Those believers are not Christ's anymore since they do not have His Spirit!!!

[@jacobwjones]

To me, just taking out the added word “The” makes it non-Trinitarian. “God, our Father and Lord, Jesus Christ.” Without the extra “the”, it sounds similar to how Thomas addresses Jesus after the resurrection. “My Lord and My God.” Jesus is God the Father manifested in the flesh, and every tongue will confess that He is Lord, and the Bible is clear that there is only ONE Lord.

[@jacobwjones]

Great video. I never noticed the reference to Numbers before.

[@Mecaliman]

Excellent observation! John 20:28 My Lord and My God / *God*, our Father and *Lord*, Jesus Christ

[@fireflames3639]

Where does the Bible say that the Father was manifested in the flesh?

[@Mecaliman]

@@fireflames3639 *Isa 9:6 child born...son given... The Mighty God (same title for Yahweh in Isa **10:21**) The Everlasting Father (Same title for Yahweh in Isa 63:16) same writer ,...same book*

[@fireflames3639]

@@Mecaliman That's the only place that for sure calls Jesus the Father. And there is not even one single verse that says the Father became flesh. Are we gonna make a doctrine out of one verse or believe the Bible when it says numerous times that the Word became flesh or the Son became flesh?

[@rtoguidver3651]

If there is a Trinity than why did the Disciples Baptize in the Name of Jesus, Jesus Christ, Jesus of Nazareth, the Lord Jesus ??? Jesus is "NOT" Baptist, Ana-Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Mormon, Denominational, non-Denominational, or any other Man Made Religion ! Jesus is the "WAY", the Ony "WAY".

[@KevinDay]

First of all, I don't think I've ever heard a Trinitarian use the greetings to *prove* the Trinity. It's just that the consistency with which Paul distinguishes Father and Son seems unexpected given Oneness theology. Second, this explanation never even deals with these verses: 2 Corinthians 1:3 (ESV): Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, Ephesians 1:3 (ESV): Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 1 Peter 1:3 (ESV): Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, The preposition "of" shows that he's not just redundantly identifying the same person. Prepositions are constantly used throughout the New Testament to distinguish the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The main thing Oneness Pentecostals need to realize is that they've been lied to with regard to what Trinitarians believe. Absolutely *NO* Trinitarian would *EVER* say there are 3 Gods. Mormons are not Trinitarian, they are polytheists. Every description of the doctrine of the Trinity ever written has started with the truth that, "There is only one God." But Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are clearly depicted as *relating* to one another, and distinguished by prepositions, and even plural pronouns from Jesus' own mouth. Thus the term "three persons." Person does not mean a separate body, but a distinct self capable of relation with another. We just have to humbly let the Word of God speak to us rather than trying to force our particular understanding of who God must be onto the text.

[@dscottplays4700]

I would day you have also been lied to. The reason why the video doesn't tackle those verses is because Oneness believers believe that Jesus is the Son of God. That's not a stumbling block for us. However, we understand that is referring to the incarnation alone, God manifested I'm flesh (1 Timothy 3:16). The only distinction between the Father and Son is the human nature the Son possesses.

[@KevinDay]

@@dscottplays4700 So your savior is just a man?

[@luishernandez1080]

@@KevinDay that man is God in flesh,Jesus Christ

[@dscottplays4700]

@@KevinDay you completely ignored the part in my argument were I said that Jesus was God manifested in flesh...

[@KevinDay]

@@dscottplays4700 No, I know what you said, but you're saying "the Son" is merely a human nature. In which case, ether he's an impersonal bag of flesh, or he is a human person and not God.

[@Monotarian]

Paul did not believe Jesus was God as well as Peter

[@aaronabeytia]

Paul didn't believe Jesus is God? Please read ‭‭Acts‬ ‭9‬:‭4‬-‭5‬, “He fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul! Saul! Why are you persecuting me?” “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. And the voice replied, “I am Jesus, the one you are persecuting!”‬‬

[@Monotarian]

@@aaronabeytia I am who? Is this the same Jesus Paul proclaimed in Acts 9 that Jesus was THE Christ?

[@aaronabeytia]

@@Monotarian ‭‭Acts 9‬:‭19‬-‭22‬ ‭NLT‬‬, "Afterward he ate some food and regained his strength. Saul stayed with the believers in Damascus for a few days. And immediately he began preaching about Jesus in the synagogues, saying, “He is indeed the Son of God!” All who heard him were amazed. “Isn’t this the same man who caused such devastation among Jesus’ followers in Jerusalem?” they asked. “And didn’t he come here to arrest them and take them in chains to the leading priests?” Saul’s preaching became more and more powerful, and the Jews in Damascus couldn’t refute his proofs that Jesus was indeed the Messiah.” Either you've not read these passages before, or you're trolling. Clearly, Paul preached about Jesus!

[@Monotarian]

@@aaronabeytia Absolutely that He was Christ..not God sir

[@walterhutchins5494]

God is one in three, when Jesus was on the mountain being transformed as white as snow, The father God said to Peter, james and John listen to my SON whom I am well pleased. Why is this so hard to believe. They are three distinct persons as ONE GOD. They can not be separated or numbered as humans understand.

[@jmar8507]

"“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” Isaiah 9:6 KJV So I wonder why Isaiah who believed Deut 6:4: "“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:” would call the "child that is born," the "...everlasting Father" if they are distinct persons as you say. ???

[@walterhutchins5494]

@@jmar8507 - Hi J Mar, we could go back and forward with this for this discussion. Think about this, why would Jesus spend hours praying to himself if he was the father. Why did Jesus continue asked the disciples do you believe the father has sent him unto this world/ mankind to save it and draw us back to GOD. THEY ARE ONE, but distinct.