A New Contender To The LP Graphics Card Throne

[@Teksers]

OMG they actually did it. I think the A2000 still has a better use case due to it using only PCIE power( 75W)

[@volvo09]

The quadro drivers got the a2000 are a bummer though. But seeing how the stock Dell PSU powered that card without going into overload I think the extra power draw isn't much of an issue. I think the PSU in that Dell is like 225 watts, if it can power it, I don't think many systems would have issues.

[@doloresdebeauvoir4960]

Exactly, A2000 is the card I give to my HP prebuilt with a measly 310w PSU.

[@Boogie_the_cat]

Every video card, including the GT710 is better than a stupid 40 series card. All the specs except the clock speed are cut down dramatically compared to the 3060, and they expect unscrupulous reviewers (and Dawid) to use DLSS 3 to mask the facts. Turn DLSS 3 off, and the 4060 will get maybe 15 fps more than the 3060 Dawid sold his soul

[@adityaraghuvanshi3947]

maybe nvidia should make an RTX 4050 with 75w tdp? surely it will be better than any LP card out there. already many 4050 laptops have 75w or less TDP so shouldn't be hard

[@volvo09]

@@Boogie_the_cat this video is about low profile cards. There aren't any options out there for low profile cards. And no, a gt710 is not better than this thing. I don't even game and I know that isn't going to happen.

[@nunofernandes4501]

Yes, definitely do a 4060 LP in a modern SFF Optiplex, that one with the i5 13400 seems to be begging for some 4060 action.

[@markojovanovic9651]

maybe even a 12400 if its cheaper

[@zat-svi-ua]

that actually would be a kickass gaming pc

[@Majinbuu_1]

i was going to make the same comment!

[@tyaty]

It don't have space for 2 slot wide card

[@eatabatterydotcom4590]

I'd like to see something like an optiplex with a i5 6500. Those go for around $100 now, and will definitely perform better than the 2600.

[@aaronbrook]

"Crystal Ball Optiplexing" from the future would be fabulous. The content creation market is pretty saturated with Ivy/Sandy/Haswell Optiplex builds at this point, but you'd probably be among the first to show the audiences out there what budget Dell builds of the future will look like in a few years. I'd love to see that. You could build it up as a "2028 Amazon Gaming PC" and simulate how people would refurbish them haha.

[@CrocoDylianVT]

Yeah but you'd probably still be using outdated processors, most probably kaby lake and coffee lake once those Optiplexes go down in price

[@aaronbrook]

My point exactly. Nobody builds those yet, but they'd be interesting to benchmark. Though AMD hasn't helped us given their focus on the higher end, the low-mid level chips with Intel seldom get the spotlight in build videos.

[@lewzealand4717]

@@CrocoDylianVT Coffee Lake i5 would be a huge upgrade in CPU limited games though with 50% more CPU power. Even 10th gen will only add HT which will be another ~15-20% maybe. As an i7-4790 Optiplex user, even an i7-7700 will only be ~15-20% faster but that 8th gen bump will be the big one.

[@AwSomeNESSS]

@@lewzealand4717 The problem being that later Optiplex's moved the full-length PCIe down to the bottom slot, leaving dual-slot LP cards incompatible. Been hunting for one for ages before I gave up.

[@ДарийФедореев-э7т]

​@@AwSomeNESSSI might be really really dumb, but can't you just take Optiplex hardware and rebuild it in any ATX case for like $10? Then you won't have to buy an LP GPU and think about cooling.

[@SilverKnight16]

I would LOVE to see the "Budget Optiplex Build of 2028" to see how it fares. It'd be hilarious.

[@BREEZYM6015]

2028? We're looking five years ahead already? 😂

[@andrewbenson6316]

The optiplex moved to a 12VO standard about 3-4 years ago on this sized (non MT) line. Almost completely and totally impossible to get power externally to a GPU (I've got a 9500 powered optiplex 3070 working as a NAS at the moment)

[@motherchuckair404]

I'm pretty sure that external power is not needed and the GPU will still work. Its relative performance will be high enough to satisfy most users. I currently run a 1650 in my Opti 3060. @@andrewbenson6316

[@CFWhitman]

@@BREEZYM6015 Yes, this is a reference to Dawid's remark that when the current generation of low profile Optiplexes reach the used market five years from now this card will truly fulfill its purpose.

[@theinktician]

@@andrewbenson6316 they want to laugh at the price and wattage my friend

[@deanchur]

For those of you waiting on a 4050 to enter the low-profile 75W market; it might, but if you look at the laptop variants you're getting 6GB RAM and a 96-bit bus; same as the Intel A320LP but by some accounts that sucks down less than 40W under load. Also Dawid, a more accurate Optiplex would be something with a 7th or 8th gen i5; you can find tons of them on refurb sites. My Optiplex is a 7th-gen i7 and it cost me $400AUD 3 years ago (also has USB-C and an nvme slot!)

[@SterkeYerke5555]

Sounds like a good candidate for some VRAM overclocking. I guess gpu manufacturers might do that themselves if nVidia will allow it. Still though, it could be an interesting gpu if it manages to be single slot LP. Afaik the RX 6400 is still the fastest gpu in that category and it's only got 4GB on a 64 bit bus (not to mention the gpu itself isn't exactly amazing either)

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

@@SterkeYerke5555Will probably have similar results on the 4070 Ti, where memory oc also does a lot. nVidia are really cheaping out on the memory bus here. 192-bit was usually always for the x60 cards, and they performed really well. The 4070 should have a 256- bit bus, the 4060 a 192-bit bus and the 4050 a 128-bit bus, minimum. They basically equipped all cards one tier lower this time.

[@SterkeYerke5555]

@@HappyBeezerStudios Tbf, nVidia equipped the cards with hardware from one tier lower in general this generation. That goes for the memory bus, but also die size, shader units and relative performance to the flagship of every generation. The 4070 Ti might as well've been the 4060 Ti or 4070 if it were named (and priced!) the way nVidia would've done until last gen

[@computerrepairguy]

This video helped me immensely with a project I’m working on. I needed to see a tear down of this card. You’re the first person I’ve seen do it. Thanks Dawid.

[@patrickprafke4894]

David is hilarious. I'm glad I found him. I just wish Anna got more screen time with him.

[@Yinzzy656]

i think it's spelled Dawid

[@Living-gnu-64]

@@Yinzzy656 it is, but forgive the newb lol

[@chiefthunderhorse4430]

​@@Living-gnu-64heck, I've been watching him awhile but his name constantly gets auto corrected any time I type it

[@patrickprafke4894]

@@Living-gnu-64 or I didn't catch the auto correct.........

[@stillblazinkush]

Why?

[@maximus3294]

this is a really fascinating video on the low profile 4050. thanks, dawid!

[@Mr.Genesis]

4060*

[@benspratt8300]

​@@Mr.Genesisr/woooosh

[@ironphilly2366]

Ha, I get the joke

[@RuruFIN]

@@Mr.Genesis They made a typo in Nvidia when they put these out. Should be 4050.

[@Mr.Genesis]

​@@benspratt8300 hahahahah so funny its such a funny joke hahahahahahahah Just like Nvidia GPUs in the Low/Mid range they're all overpriced trash

[@fawnwilliams9835]

please do rtx 4000 sff ada

[@edwardthecar2300]

I saw someone else do that and it's about 2% faster than the 4060 in games but draws 1/3rd of the power

[@DivineVegan]

Done

[@aznhomig]

​@@edwardthecar2300Also costs like 5x more, lol.

[@bolshevikY2K]

I would absolutely love to see the MODERN OPTIPLEX OF THE FUTURE (from 2028 or something). The concept of taking a crappy prebuilt or office system and turning it into an unexpected gaming beast is always super cool to me

[@bellowick]

This is how I built my bedroom media/gaming pc. Got a HP Prodesk with a Pentium and 8gb ram for £40 (seller did me a deal as I wanted 2 of them, but they were selling for £60 each), got a i5 6600 for £20, a passively powered 1050 ti for £60 and £20 on ram. For £140 I think it would be a challenge to build a better PC. I had to do quite a bit of research to find a GPU that wasn't overpriced or just e-waste. Some people would argue a 1050ti is e-waste, but it is still a serviceable card for AAA games that are 1 or 2 years old already (the specs are basically God Of War's recommended specs) and I already have a gaming PC, if I want to play a new title I can just use Parsec to play it remotely.

[@kellypaws]

Currently using an HP Elitedesk SFF with NVME, 64 Gb RAM and an RX6400. It's not the *best* system I've used, but it *is* a total sleeper build.

[@tristanweide]

I'm really hoping we get a 75 watt 4050... That would be an amazing card for slide in upgrades... (as long as it has more than 4 PCIE lanes)

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I would go another route. A LP 4060 Super that uses the AD104 chip of the 4070, but at much lower clocks. That should give quite a spike in efficiency.

[@Bit-Z1]

@@Jantcha it’s older architecture though. In theory this could perform better even at 75w.

[@joemarais7683]

You won’t get that cause the 4060 is what the 4050 should have been. If you want a 75W card, buy a workstation card or AMD gpu.

[@saschapurner9579]

Intel´s ARC 380 from Asrock should be what you search for with a decent price on it.

[@baoquoc3710]

@@joemarais7683 asterisk* RTX A2000. It exists and not talking about price, it incinerated the Pathetic RX 6400

[@EbiNnFlowin]

I wish we had more LP graphics cards that can be powered entirely on the PCIE slots. Love these to make old office PCs into gaming PC

[@Tommy_The_Gun]

There is one issue with this card. When you need a small GPU - chances are - that you also have very small case. 3 fans may be efficient, but if your PC case is small it won't gonna help and after 1 hour of gaming your PC components are gonna get hot - especially if this thing needs more power. It would be actually way better if this gpu had blower style cooler (just like A2000) as it ejects hot air directly out of your case. Blower coolers are just better for small cases.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

I would loved to see the A2000 and the 4060 doing the A2000 intended tasks and see how they compare.

[@progmistro]

The problem with the current gen of SFF ex: Inspiron 5070, 3020 is that the PCIE x16 slot is on the bottom, which means only single slot GPUs work, and for some forsaken reason, they thought that it was a good idea.

[@StaceyBelleAdams]

Every generation of Optiplex SFF after the 3010 has this same problem, even the newest 3000/5000/7000 series! Sadly, my 3050 can't take a double slot GPU.

[@adamm.1367]

It's a shame Dell is still kneecapping them...super odd design choice. I have a few 7000's laying around at work with i7-12700s that would be great compact gaming machines if it weren't for this issue

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

I always wondered why nobody made a LP card with a cooler on the back. Wrap it around and have the cooling on the side where there is at least a slot for room, and in may cases even more above that.

[@snoflahke6575]

i have a g3 hp elite desk sff i7 7700 and i got lots of slots and the perfect slot space for a 2 slot card

[@kentluo7168]

Dell 3450（Inspiron 7090） also has this problem, but 3460 has changed it

[@TechIOwn]

With the 8 pin power and reduced 128 bit bus and PCIe 4.0 x8 I'm not exactly sure who this was targeted at, certainly not the old Dell/HP SFF PC's, but it's something I've been waiting for and also seems to be quite popular based on Amazon and Newegg availability. Surprised they didn't do a LP 3050 last generation for a little DLSS and ray tracing action.

[@workdesu]

probably for the itx enthusiast. hdplex actually has 400w small psu nowadays.kinda sized like pico.. it should be well enough to power a ryzen 5600+ this tiny 4060. this should opens up some new door for more powerful compact rig

[@stoneymahoney9106]

The A2000 is why the GA-106 die the 3050 and 3060 are made from even exist. It's no coincidence the best-binned silicon from that line just happens to hit the perfect voltage/shader count sweetspot within the slot-only power budget that's perfect for the LP form factor that you can sell for extortionate prices to professionals and data centres. Why let board partners make a product that competes with any of the unique selling points that will cannibalize the cash cow you went to so much trouble to design? Make no mistake, gamers are second-class citizens in the world of GPUs now.

[@TechIOwn]

@@workdesu Most of the time the ITX crowd can still run full height GPU's, even if they're limited to single fan models like the Palit 4060 Ti StormX and ZOTAC Gaming. Still feel the pain paying more for a GTX 1650 LP vs a 1650 Super or even a 1660!

[@kaozer666]

My ITX system has a full size 3080 in it. Its not the smallest system in the world but its only 11L volume

[@XxAtomic646xX]

ray tracing is impossible to use on a 3050... 3050 struggles on low settings without raytracing lol

[@TheTryingDutchman]

Put the 4060 on 75 watt tdp manually and remove the 8 pin connector and see if that works. If not you can disable the power connector=false in the bios to fool the card to thinking the 8 pin connector is connected. This would mean it can be used in more usecases (weak psu or whatever) and it would be pretty cool to see how they compare performance wise without a psu!

[@MrGermanletsplayerxD]

David has to see and do this

[@_Winfried_]

Is this really a thing? Never heard of that bios option

[@poorsap1598]

If this can be done id like to see that.

[@volvo09]

​@@_Winfried_must be in the GPU bios, that wouldn't be in a motherboard bios.

[@TheTryingDutchman]

@@_Winfried_ its not necessarily an option, basicly you change the word 'false' into 'true'. Its not as easy as my comment makes is sound though, but since people make entire custom biosses for gpu's (like RX570 getting custom RX580 bios to boost performance) simple changing 1 word should definitely be doable

[@guthreleonard4164]

Would have been interesting to see the 4060 power limited to 75w for MB only power.

[@snoflahke6575]

i'm pretty sure that w/o the 8 pin connector it would just burn up the pci slot tyiing to provife the power.

[@Bit-Z1]

@@snoflahke6575 it wouldn’t burn it up, the motherboard has protections against that. The card simply wouldn’t work if it wasn’t getting enough juice.

[@mxss115]

I’m fairly certain this is the first time a 60 class card gets the LP treatment. The last good gtx LP cards I can remember were 750tis, but I also think 1050s existed

[@ehohackner]

keep in mind many people among the tech community claim nvidia shifted the whole naming scheme up, so that technically the 4060 should have been named 4050 (based on performance gains over last gen), so on and so forth. The LP 4060 only strenghtens this narrative.

[@justinpatterson5291]

The GTX 1650 had an LP version. Gigabyte made one. And I think MSI did too.

[@justinpatterson5291]

​@absolutemadchad8637pretty decent for a ~50W card.

[@iancurrie8844]

That’s because it is a xx50 class card being sold as a 60.

[@ProjectPhysX]

​@@ehohacknermain evidence for this is the crippled 128-bit memory bus and tiny XX107 GPU chip, both of which have always been 50-class. The performance numbers tell the same story; there is memory-bound applications where the "4060" is outperformed by a 3060, 2060 and even 1660 Ti.

[@ksolo614]

You may be able to flash a different bios on the A2000 card with the new unlocked nvflash tool. Might get some more performance out of it.

[@scudsturm1]

probably not, it already runs around 70W and the pciexpress slot are 75W, if u dont want to burn it up, avoid flashing a bios, beside that u lose the quadro benefits of the special driver features

[@ilijazafirov4192]

It is limited by the power, I have tested it and there is no way of going beyond the power limit because you can't add more power onto it due to the pcie connection limit

[@quantum5661]

hell, if we're talking about the fastest 75w card, go look at the rtx4000sff. its a batshit crazy workstation card with 20 gigs on it.

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

not that much performance, not from concentrate has a system with a water cooled shunt modded one and the 4060 is still gonna outperform it

[@AlJey007]

the new RTX 4000 is the true successor to A2000, would love to see that in action

[@ToothlessSnakeable]

Wish that card was cheaper

[@Ifalvarado]

@@ToothlessSnakeable and smaller, It doesn't fit on low profile cases like the a2000

[@RottenSoul589]

its crazy how small that card is vs the full size desk top versions

[@marcogenovesi8570]

Most of the space is the heatsink, and on lower end cards they are using the same big heatsinks as the higher end cards because it's cheaper to mass produce a single heatsink for all

[@fabrb26]

And people still go for the Strix version

[@EddieOtool]

I mean, looks like it's a tiny baby to the gighuge 40 series. Very, very cute baby at that.

[@nojohnso]

Yes, Dawid. Make that video on used Optiplexs in 5 years from now.

[@AnnaDoes]

The fact that the 4060 is half the price for sometimes double the performance is hella impressive. I also never can and never will get over how CUTE those little cards are

[@ilijazafirov4192]

A2000 6GB can be bought for 200-250$ used and there is no gaming performance difference than the 12GB version

[@creaturedanaaaaa]

@@ilijazafirov4192 ok that's great but this is easily worth the 330 being new and having like 70% more performance on average

[@ilijazafirov4192]

@@creaturedanaaaaa not if you use it in SFF office PC which doesn't have extra power (most of them limited power supply to 200-250W on 1 or 2 rails and without GPU power connector), besides the PCIE power itself you don't have an extra power, for a custom made SFF PC where you can use whatever power supply you want, certainly you are correct. If there is a test where the 4060 is limited to 70W (at which the A2000 runs), we can decide which one is better to get, but on the other hand why would you even buy 4060 if you have to underpower it.

[@Just_Joseph_King]

You look cute too 😉

[@NCamico]

I just put one of these bad boys into a build in a Silverstone MILO11 case and I'm shocked by how relatively quiet the small fans are, even when cranked up. It truly is a Short King.

[@TechIOwn]

Silverstone ML03 for me, and yes the fans and cooling are actually a pleasant surprise, performs cooler and quieter than even the GTX 1650 LP. The initial photos made it seem extremely long but even with the triple fan configuration it's not much longer either.

[@qwertyuiopasdf160]

this is the only 4060 worth buying

[@curvingfyre6810]

Definitely do a video pairing it with a more competent mini office pc. 6th through 8th gen intel would probably be the play.

[@acidthefurry6684]

you're still missing the a4000 sff David

[@Carnyzzle]

The 4060 LP is the only 4060 model that makes any sort of sense

[@BaIlincat43]

Ever since I heard of the LP 4060 I've been waiting for this video

[@WayStedYou]

0:30 short king*

[@martux6815]

the die dimension and the fact that you can have a lp 4060 confirm one more time that this simply a 4050

[@HR-wd6cw]

The A2000 is really a quadro-type card, so it's good for rendering, but may not be as fast as the RTX "Geforce" type cards which are meant for gaming, and are faster overall, but perhaps at a slight disadvantage when it comes to rendering (some rendering errors can possibly occur although I haven't really see any in my limited testing between the two -- the RTX "quadro" type cards are just designed more for render accuracy and heavy duty processing (at the cost of speed) since they are designed for workstation and design/CAD use primarily which isn't usually speed oriented.

[@originaltim82]

I'm dead when he said " that ship has sailed "... ROFL ! Love it Dawid. Keep it up, I love your content !!

[@jinmail3294]

This shows how important cooling is to have a decent performance

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

From what I've seen, the 40 series seem to be really efficient at 900-950 mV. You can reduce power draw and increase performance at the same time. And less power draw means easier cooling.

[@cioa9299]

Idk why I just get so fucking excited whenever new dawid video comes out. It's kinda like the excitement I got when my favorite cartoon shows got new episodes!

[@claycassin8437]

A test of the 4060 limited to the same 70 watt TDP as the A2000 would have been enlightening, as I am most interested in the efficiency aspect of the newer card in a lower power build(my entire mindset starts with off grid solar system efficiency). As always, though, very entertaining!

[@ogrejd]

@4:10 - It IS going in an Optiplex? Whew! And good timing - I was literally typing out (hence the timestamp) "Boo! What's the point of using the test bench? Low-profiles should ONLY go in an Optiplex!" when you broke the good news. Glad the video isn't going to be boring. ;)

[@shadowsofnoobs]

The RTX 4000 SFF is the king! Do a video on that please

[@bluesharpie9744]

Awesome to see LP cards get some love (high end gaming, raytracing, and DLSS 3 in this form factor? Awesome!) - but yeah, I think that 8-pin will limit its use cases, especially as a drop-in card for prebuilt office PCs. They just don't have the connectors. LP power supplies with those connectors are also probably rare and quite expensive. The thing is that the 4060 would probably run decently with the 75W of PCIe power (as seen in laptops, and this is practically the same chip) but maybe NVIDIA just doesn't allow that?

[@shadowtheimpure]

Just a heads up, for Mini-DP you can easily buy Mini-DP to DisplayPort cables so you don't have to use dongles. My users do it all the time for laptop docks.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

The adapters are normally included with the A2000. So free, usually.

[@shadowtheimpure]

@@bricefleckenstein9666 Indeed, that is a perfectly valid option. I was just giving another for folks who didn't want adapter dongles hanging off the back of their GPU.

[@uglybob7505]

For one moment I thought that was a normal size card and your hands were ENORMOUS !!!!!!!!!!

[@ilijazafirov4192]

How about the new RTX A4000 LP graphics card vs the RTX4060 LP, the a4000 is also 70W It is actually named RTX A4000 SFF to be more precise if you are unable to find it as LP

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

Down side, the A4000 is VERY pricy. Makes the 6GB A2000 look cheap, and even the 12GB A2000 look fairly cheap.

[@Ladioz]

I love this guy's attitude and sense of humor

[@Grgxr]

Would be cool if there is a way to only use pcie power on the 4060

[@itsmilan4069]

manually limit the TDP

[@How23497]

If you undervolt like hell you probably could

[@linuxnerd5319]

I agree I thought the main selling point of LP cards was the non extrnal power needed.

[@ppsarrakis]

@@linuxnerd5319 its for use on a HTPC system aswell

[@kentluo7168]

But the problem is that it cannot be turned on without connecting the 8pin power supply, not even the 6pin one.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

There is something amusing about those low profile cards being slotted into a system with that massive chonker of a cooler on it.

[@TechIOwn]

While not as impressive as Dawid's beast it does look kind of funny slotted beside a Noctua NH-L12S, a lot of heatsink for a low profile case.

[@denko69]

Yeah you should definitely try it out with a new optiplex

[@johnroberts2905]

8:42

[@poorsap1598]

Having a modern gpu with no power connector is very much needed for a reasonable price. Adding it to old business pcs for a nice budget pc is where its at. I feel like a rx 6500 or a 4050 ti with 6gb of vram would be nice.

[@eclipsemantis]

Watching this on a school bus on the way home from a cross country meet. I left my earbuds at home. Thanks for the closed captions!

[@ih5643]

You should get an optioned with a system that runs some ddr4 like a 6th gen and see how it runs. I bet it’s a huge difference.

[@ilijazafirov4192]

I have it on 8th gen Intel CPU, 8700 to be precise, and it runs very well, though I have the 6GB ram version of the A2000 Also ddr4 on 6th gen doesn't exist unless you talk about laptops in which case it is impossible to test it

[@ih5643]

I have an HP desktop with a i7-6700 in it and 32GB DDR4 in it. It was 5th gen that started to switch between DDR3 and DDR4 @@ilijazafirov4192

[@randomtech94]

@@ilijazafirov4192 there are motherboards in lga1151 with ddr4.

[@Generalkidd]

When it comes to low profile GPUs, I'm still partial to the nVidia Tesla T4. Another pricey GPU but it's a single slot, solely slot powered GPU with RTX 2070 performance. The A2000 and 4060 LP are nice but neither are single slot which limits the size of some low profile builds. That being said, nVidia Tesla GPUs do require more setup than GeForce or formerly Quadro GPUs.

[@devon5626]

monster graphics card!

[@RongDMemer]

About to upgrade my optiplex 790 MT I've been wondering Will the rx 580 one with long design but one fan like the 4060 lp on this video fit into the chassis? Also I'm using i5-2500 (no k) should i upgrade if possible or is it enough?

[@The11devans]

The power setup in that optiplex is a monstrosity, and exactly what I expected of you. congrats

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

1:58 Low profile cards are LIGHT - they don't need a backplate for rigidity.

[@raheel9711]

Curious to see how the LP 4060 runs at 70 watts 😅

[@ironphilly2366]

Every other 4060 variant: booo LP 4060: YOOOOOO

[@hum430]

Hi, if you want to branch out and try other companies low profile cards there's this. Arc Pro A60 12 GB graphics card and I think AMD are also doing something similar. Could be fun to compare price/performance in your unique and enjoyable way. Keep up the good work.

[@jameslake7775]

The Pro A60 is single-slot full-profile, the Pro A50 is dual-slot low-profile, and both of them are absolute unobtainium. I haven’t been able to find them either stand-alone, in prebuilts, or second hand yet, despite their “release”. AMD’s got the Radeon Pro W7600, which is single-slot full-profile with a 6-pin and is basically a W7600 with a lower boost clock, and maybe more interesting in the field of “putting pro GPUs places they shouldn’t be and doing things they’re not meant for”: the cut down W7500 that’s also single slot and full height, but doesn’t need a power cable.

[@hum430]

@@jameslake7775 so you wouldn't be at all interested in seeing the comparison? I thought that it might be interesting. I couldn't remember the name of the AMD offering. Thanks for letting me know as I knew that I'd read it somewhere.

[@jameslake7775]

@@hum430 Oh it would be neat to see, but the point was more that I'm not sure you can do the Arc Pro comparison, since the cards only seem to exist on paper. At the right price I'd be dangerously tempted by an A60, but Intel can't say when or where or how much!

[@hum430]

@@jameslake7775 yes, I did a quick search after your message and it does appear elusive still it's the type of video he excels in so it would be fun if he could an apparent power draw maximum of 130 and of course I am also interested in what the AMD card has to offer.

[@samvega827]

"I was about to say not stupid about this, but I feel that ship has sailed!" Lmao good ol Dawid videos.

[@Noor555_s_Animations]

You know.... Because it's from the 40 series. You can turn on the frame generation.

[@batsai]

Yay! I LOVE the return of 'the Death Match Arena of Death!' 🤣 Great video as always Dawid!

[@joshb6470]

3:59 I swear I thought when the view changed to looking at the system that the system was smoking until I realized it was the game in the background, not smoke pouring off like grandma and the aunts at christmas watching me open presents without batteries at christmas in the 80s

[@TheCunningStunt]

also replacing the PSU in the Optiplex makes a huge difference. Just drop the mother board in an ATX case with a decent watt PSU and mod connections as necessary. Can by adapter kits for fans and such for optiplex depending on the model. Because they're not all created equal. Mines a 9010 SFF with an i7 4770, so while there are no front interface mods for it, it can take a proper full size 24 pin PSU, which of course helps with using GPU's that need external power.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Just stumbled upon the channel. Very spicy name... and great content.

[@boxfan6656]

Dell SFF cases after about the 6th gen Intel can only fit a single width card. HP's 8th gen Intel is similar - the power supply limits the x16 slot to a single slit width. Thankfully, HP relented with the 9th gen and reintroduced double width slots in some, but not all of its SFF cases.

[@cptwhite]

Finally. someone is actually looking at this card, thanks Dawid!

[@Thurgosh_OG]

Yes Dawid. Put it in your diary to do a build with this low profile 4060 in 5 years. We'll still be here to watch you.

[@harryhalfmoon]

Thanks for this video. I did not know of LP cards before. Do note: I cannot save this video to 'watch later', which is something I use a lot. Usually I gather interesting videos first and then watch them. This is not possible with this video.

[@Reza1984_]

I recently bought the 4060 LP for an HP Prodesk G9 12500 Intel. Since these chassis are so confined, the space between the PSU and GPU fans is around 5mm, almost blocking any airflow and causing the GPU to choke on its heat, reaching 102 on the hotspot with the case lid open. Once I removed the PSU, it gave the card enough breathing room to operate normally. They should've gone with a blower-style cooler. I even considered modding this with a blower cooler, but it's not an easy job, to be honest.

[@Bit-Z1]

Power cable requirement kills it. A2000 is still king.

[@МаксимНикитин-о1ъ]

2:32 my heart dropped when you bent the board that hard

[@thekawaiicookie3267]

If that 4060 still requires a PSU power connector then not really Low profile

[@Soddus.]

OMFG i was just looking for reviews of this gpu earlier

[@DunkelBisBunt]

Been waiting ages for a new low profile card and I had NO idea that they release a 4060 oO Awesone

[@Skipsx]

I would have been really interested to see what happens if you enabled frame generation on the rtx 4060.

[@rustler08]

It would have been a latency-filled mess

[@jomeyqmalone]

Nvidia is pretty clear that frame-gen, as it stands, is not for getting games to playable 60+framerates, but rather for adding smoothness to already acceptable framerates

[@HunterTinsley]

So glad you made this video. I would love to see how it performs in a SFF. This is the first LP GPU I've ever seen that needs PCI-E power, and that's really going to limit it's use cases. The P340 with the 380w PSU would be a very interesting test for this card, IMO.

[@romevang]

The 4060 is a PCIe gen 4 8x card. The Dell optiplex is a PCIe gen 2 and at 8 lanes... probably the cause of the stuttering?

[@65ha]

Watched this video while taking a crap. Thanks for entertaining me bro.

[@jean-michelsanterre2565]

8:22 is that a kingfast ssd i see?

[@Sundayinthelife]

Dawid: "Maybe I should do a v-" Everyone: "Yes. Duh."

[@LeitoAE]

You don't need a mini dp to big dp adapter. You can buy a cable that has mini dp on one side. Considering that we have monitors with mini dp sometimes it makes it even a good idea to slowly move to mini dp. In my opinion it is like switching from USB A to USB C. But when speaking of USB C - we could switch to USB C ports for video too.

[@VatchGaming]

8:34 this is a fire risk the sata power cable can only hold around 54 watts. Also it's worse when you daisy chain cables like that.

[@bogdantucu5108]

what cooler is that at 4:03 ?

[@45eno]

I found a used Silverstone GD09B for $40 about a year ago to replace low profile Silverstone MediaPC. Now I run full size GPUs and glad I can get better for cheaper when not restrained by low profile form factors. 2x 120mm intakes and 1x 120mm exhaust makes for great living room or bedroom MediaPCs. I have two these built one with 5800x/6700xt/x570s Tomahawk, 48gb / 5tb NVMe /4tb Red+ and other bedroom slightly lesser 5600x/6600xt/x570s Tomahawk/32gb/3tb NVMe. Both with Noctua D9L and U9S. All built at crazy discounted prices usually 50% on most all parts.

[@Ziyoblader]

When I bought the 40 60 low-profile I ran into the same problem with the power connector Amazon didn't show a picture on that side of the card so I didn't know it needed an eight-pin and I already knew the small form-factor Dell optiplex couldn't connect to it normally however I did have a DT optiplex small-form-factor that had a different power supply not a full ATX one but a tfx that apparently with Silverstone you can buy a 500w and slap it in currently right now it's working well with the 4060 to play games at 2k 1440p with a i7 4770

[@Quadromodo]

There are two thrones in the realm of low profile graphics cards: Single slot and dual slot.

[@MrVari0]

2 slots for an LP, mmff. Great vidéo by the way :).

[@MsNIKITA]

@DawidDoesTechStuff have you tried the other workstation card, the RTX 4000 ADA SFF?

[@edplat2367]

You need to drill some air holes in the side of the optiplex and undervolt the gpu and lower the power target in afterburner.

[@allyjane2545]

You can get an i7 8gen system for only 70-100$ nowadays

[@marksulloway5669]

Thank you for this comparison.

[@AK-tf3fc]

does anyone know the music name at 05:34

[@jasonb110]

Thanks for taking this thing apart- I didn’t want to do it yet on my own 😂 but in all seriousness, this is the best use form factor for the 4060 in my opinion.

[@armitsachan]

You should also weigh them from now on to get a weight comparison lol

[@klym8_]

why whenever you speaking while testing the games, your hand popped up lol 5:38 what are you trying to do here? giving the monitor a scratch?

[@shadowsteppah]

You can get an SFF optiplex with an i5 8500 for around 100 these days Dawid. Would probably give the 4060 some air to breathe

[@CarthagoMike]

Pretty neat little paperweight.

[@johnevans3562]

I play starfield with a gtx 1050ti at 30fps and i'm having a blast. It dips down during intense scenes but it's never unplayable. Just a simple overclock and then an optimization mod off the nexus has the game looking very damn close to 1080p native.

[@CazRaX]

Is there not an nVme slot under the 3.5" cage? My 7th gen CPU OptiPlex has one, would remove the need for a SATA cable for an SSD.