Can a NOOB tell the difference between a 144Hz and a 60Hz PC gaming monitor?

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

If you want to see us test 60Hz vs 75Hz, check out that video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ7IZ6Wfh6esgdU

[@phat9566]

Dawid Does Tech Stuff first

[@Zepsky383]

Just wondering what cpu cooler you using in that build on video?

[@crationis]

Look up what double blind is, because that’s not what you’re doing here. But anyway good vid

[@TehHuskeydood]

Its less visual but the action response time and snappyness of movement is what people who can't see it visually will almost 100% notice. Even if you can't tell visually its a higher refresh rate, you'll know based purely on how it feels.

[@e5m956]

@@TehHuskeydood So true! It's more about the feel than the look!

[@gudanco]

The human eye can't see more than 4gb of ram

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Haha!!

[@oskarpolanski3152]

32 bit humans cant, but 64 bit ones can :D

[@GoingMenthol]

Sounds pretty bad, might need to overclock our eyes to 3200MHz to make up for that

[@tomlademann2521]

More like 2 Pieces of CPU Core

[@pranjalkkabtiyal7287]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@suf3117]

When I first got my 144hz monitor I literally sat for 10 minutes just moving my mouse around cause it looked so smooth lmao

[@yoshatabi]

Lmao hopefully this is me. Just built a gaming pc and ordered a 144hz monitor that's coming in tomorrow

[@NickTheRedFox]

Just got an asus 165hz monitor, first time gaming on a gaming monitor. Totally worth it. I was using a small TV before, and the response time was over 50ms.. higher than my ping, and now my current monitor is .5ms definitely helps when aiming in games and trying to dodge attacks.

[@KLiNoTweet]

Did this too LOL. Soooo smooth!

[@weataku]

Dude same with my 165 hz vg258

[@tech2remotesandkeys614]

lol

[@ysmir6065]

you should disable motion blur for this kind of test

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That's an interesting point. However I was trying to test it with normal graphics settings, to see if in a normal gaming situations it was clear which was which. I didn't want to turn off something I would normally leave on just for the test.

[@randydecker7015]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff I'd be curious too to see what the test results are with it deactivated. You had more experience and knew what the look to for, where as Anna got about half of them right in her test and then got to them all right after she figured out what to look for, and it wasn't until she figured out what to look for that she noticed any difference. I think another good test of this would be to get several players together for some pvp, and each round, without their knowledge, change their refresh rates to see 2 things. One, can they tell the difference. And more importantly, does it actually affect game play. I think the latter being the bigger issue for people with refresh rates. with a fair amount of tests and looking at each players average scores playing at the higher refresh rate vs the lower you could see if the fresh rate actually had an effect on they're ability to play.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@randydecker7015 That is an amazing suggestion. I really wish I had the resources to do a test like the second one you suggested. That would be a great way to gather some real information on this topic. Thanks for the awesome suggestion.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@Thomas Foster Oh okay, I'll definitely try that out.

[@networkingjoe3635]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff motion blur is for consoles, if you can reliably hit 60+, there's no need to keep it on

[@darkphoenix2]

It's interesting that Anna never though to use the word "smooth". She said "faster" and "realistic" but for some reason gamers just describe it as smoothness because that's what they can feel immediately.

[@ventilate4267]

In a way faster is accurate, compared to 60 it seems like a weird fast forward effect

[@ChriSaito]

You’re right. It is interesting! I love seeing how non gamers describe things that they don’t know the word for. I always enjoy their perspective.

[@doraaaa0613]

maybe she said "realistic" because there's not much information lag when she moves the pov around, so she can track and process stuff on screen as fast as she would irl, since it doesn't throw you off that much? just guessing

[@Cypeq]

it's more so gamers have certain vocabulary, which non-games don't necesarly have to have knowledge about.

[@orionlax626]

@@ventilate4267 Thats not how refresh rate works.

[@tyborg314]

There are two different kinds of people in the world: Those that can perceive a difference between 60fps and 144fps and those that are broke

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

Tbh it's not that expensive nowadays to get a 144hz monitor. At 150 bucks you can get a 144hz monitor. Unless you're like in SUPER tight budgets where you can't stretch 20 more bucks for a better monitor get a 144hz if you're planning and have the hardware to game

[@xterrey]

WoW that hurts :)))

[@phreeak]

well there is a third type. people who can but their deps telling them they better shouldnt

[@sup4hh]

@@phreeak which is broke people. if you in debt, you did something wrong.

[@itsgudstuf6485]

I dunno if anyone else is like this, but I can physically tell the difference between 60fps and 50fps.

[@Gojira_Wins]

Real gamers play on 60fps panels at 28.4fps on Intel HD graphics.

[@sethxtekken]

HELL YEAH

[@rizic9980]

F*ck yeah

[@baldwinivofjerusalem47]

U said it right 😂😂

[@DavidDragon-zx9jd]

Ryzen is better lmao

[@Animations-tb5nj]

720p looks great

[@Beanlipe]

Just by moving the mouse on the desktop and dragging windows around you can feel a big difference

[@aspin2624]

what

[@aspin2624]

@The LiiTe nice one you really cleared up any confusion i had there thanks

[@vernwalker9515]

Yes it's true

[@chixens5713]

I had a 60hz monitor and I gotta say that jumping to a 240hz monitor is insanely smooth and even 165hz looks stuttery to me now.

[@vernwalker9515]

@@chixens5713 60 to 240! U must had bought a RTX 2080 Ti

[@valor5138]

“Budget high refresh rate monitors have been available for quite some time.” *shows $554 monitor*

[@Ben-cl2co]

Mine was 160 euro

[@IN-pr3lw]

Mine was £100 and something

[@issdar]

They are as cheap as 169$ usd Aoc 24g2e

[@gilles111]

@@issdar Have the 27" of that serie, €239,-/$280,-. Great monitor for a reasonable budget.

[@Sylas6540]

Even so $554 isn’t bad

[@jeffreywarf]

How dare you go around ruining innocent people's eyes with a 144hz experience. You KNOW they'll never be able to go back!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Hahaha!! I couldnt help myself but ruin her innocents. :P

[@burhanahmed2137]

jeffreywarf loll

[@amit8961]

so true

[@jacobmaston5462]

jeffreywarf he called it FPS lol

[@user-nq3xi4wm2k]

It’s not as bad as 1ms, I’m starting to see the delay

[@Simmymind360]

I can definitely tell the difference..and I can never go back to 60 hz lol

[@ericchandler90]

When I look over to my 60hz monitor after using my 144hz I think there's something wrong with my computer.

[@Raulxz]

There is clearly a big difference but 60hz is still very smooth and is not like you can’t go back to it.

[@Simmymind360]

@@Raulxz I hear ya..I still play MGS 5 The Phantom.and it's Great..

[@K3Vz0]

@@Raulxz no you cant

[@ahmedatif5825]

Ok if iam playing with 60 or 70 fps . Would the 144hz screen be useful?

[@spurgurnaspurgelius2390]

The human ear cannot smell more than 9 ultraviolet lights.

[@Wealthwavez369]

Wait

[@supercomputing942]

I knew it!

[@JW-ol1ug]

-Einstein

[@JW-ol1ug]

@Orochimaru. hab gar nich mal mit gemacht lul fand das bild nur schön

[@__Rune__]

Jeezus 😂

[@nyeowsz]

Fun fact: the human eye can't see me owning a pc Edit: Last 2 months, I got a PC but week later it broke. Maybe PC's dont like me.

[@nyeowsz]

@Cody R well its real

[@nyeowsz]

@Cody R im 16 yrs old, still havent got a pc. Only low end phone. Idk why do i know how to do builds tho

[@nyeowsz]

@Cody R in fact ive played computers (not personal) in computer shops. Well its a very bad sets with just intel core i3 2120 with no gpu. 2gb ram.

[@nyeowsz]

@Cody R well building an okay pc cost about 200usd. The minimum wage of my family is just 200usd a month. So its basically waaaay over the budget

[@nyeowsz]

@Cody R i have console. Its snes(idk if its console) ps1 and ps2. Just that

[@tmsmeister7603]

"This is so smooth!" Me watching in 30 fps: huh

[@spontaneous1503]

KZbin can only render 60fps, so you're not missing out on much. I'm on 240hz but we are only viewing KZbin videos at a 30fps difference.

[@SantiagoMonroy5]

*24

[@okaydetar821]

@@SantiagoMonroy5 No?

[@SantiagoMonroy5]

Click on stats for nerds, you can see its exported at 24fps.

[@lunchmeat7495]

@@okaydetar821 if it says 60 next to the resolution obv 60 FPS and if it doesn’t say that, 24FPS is the case

[@MARTINREN1231]

i got so used to 60 that the moment i switched to 144, my eyes literally noticed every single thing like dafaq.

[@SuperErikzor]

Get her playing a game for 15 years on a 60hz screen, then switching to a 144hz one, then ask her..

[@ugolattanzio9152]

toaritok r/wooosh

[@ugolattanzio9152]

@toaritok r/nobodyasked

[@lewqitz]

@@ugolattanzio9152 The original comment isn't a joke.

[@ferdinandodamico5796]

I agree, it defeats the purpose

[@NympoGaming]

I've been playing on a 60 hz monitor for at least 20 years and still can't tell the difference between 144 and 60. You guys are just imagining things.

[@ameliabuns4058]

I love how I'm the later videos she can tell 240 and 144 apart. She has ascended to a geek

[@Shan_Shah]

The differences from 144hz to 240hz is pretty much as big of a jump as from 60hz to 75hz she was able to tell the differences from 60hz to 75hz but not 144hz what r u dreaming

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@Shan_Shah I've never tried or seen a 240hz monitor. But she also couldn't tell a lot of stuff apart in their very early videos

[@Shan_Shah]

@@ameliabuns4058 but 60hz to 144hz is day n night n she should've gotten a 7/7 like if he was doing a blind test on her between 60hz and 75hz 4/7 makes sence as the differences are very suddle between the 2 n nit as big as ppl hope it up 75hz refresh 3.33㎧ quicker than 60hz but what doesn't make sence is she did better when she was done a 60hz vs 75hz blind test but with 144hz 5 of those 7 attempts where guesses it toke her 6 attempts to tell the differences which makes no sence like she is trying to say 75hz is better than 144hz but 144hz n 75hz is a day night differences 144hz refreshes about 10㎧ quicker than 60hz n about 7㎧ quicker than 75hz

[@Chevsilverado]

@@ameliabuns4058 240hz vs 144hz isn’t as night and day noticeable. Unless you’re back to back resting them then they will look basically the same. But even then, when playing on a 240hz monitor there’s just something so good about it you wouldn’t know what it was if you didn’t know it had 240hz. 60hz vs 240hz isn’t even a competition though.

[@ameliabuns4058]

@@Chevsilverado oh I never seen them IRL but I can ssume. I'm happy at 100fps tbh on my 144hz monitor.

[@darthinvaderzimm]

When I first got a 144hz monitor, I didn't see the difference. But then after maybe a month I tried seeing what 60hz looked like and now it looks like a huge difference and I don't want to ever go back to 60hz.

[@konokob9246]

VØłĐ fuck the human eye

[@maxchopin409]

@@voiq1764 Hope it's a joke. Try it by yourself and you'll see.

[@cal34]

@@maxchopin409 He's joking. 100%

[@___Robin___]

yeah I know that feeling. Your eyes perceive a specific framerate as smooth because you get used to it so once you go to a faster framerate you instantly adapt to it being smooth and pretty much having the same experience as the old monitor, but once you roll back and you're used to smoothness you feel it being sluggish.

[@darthinvaderzimm]

@@___Robin___ Yeah that's exactly how it feels

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I have seen a couple comments where people say that the FRAPs counter in the top right of the screen clearly gives away the frame rate which ruins the test. The FRAPS counter is there to show that the game was running at the same FPS for all the tests and that the only variable was the refresh rate that the monitor was set to, like I showed in the start of the video. On a second note, people have been pointing out that I use the term "double blind test" incorrectly. This doesn't effect the test results, I just used the term incorrectly. What we did in this video was technically a single blind test, because the tester knew the settings. Thank you very much for watching this video. If you enjoyed the video please subscribe and check out some of the other videos on my channel.

[@WolfsHaven]

It's been a long time since I've used Fraps for screen cap, all it ever showed me that my actual fps was much lower than my machine was actually capable of.

[@szechuanman4419]

You should've hidden the fps, but capped it at either 60 or 144fps depending on which refresh rate it was running. You also should've tested it on something other than a dark video game. For example, just moving the cursor around in windows.

[@Lojzze]

it think the counter gives it away when in menu...it drops to 60 and when in 144mode id does not

[@mobilcams]

I am not sure about your set up but the menus always show 60fps (built in game counter) on the menus. It isn't until you are actually in the game that it shows higher frame rates. So I am not sure you're seeing something different in the menus.

[@shokrithan.k8207]

@@Lojzze well she doesnt knw that.

[@philipwest4553]

It is only double blind if both the tester and the tested do not know. A third person ought to be setting the refresh rate.

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Yes, I have gotten a bunch of these comments. I just used the terminology incorrectly, I should have said single blind test. It however doesn't effect the test results, I just don't English good. :P

[@techbuildspcs]

@@DawidDoesTechStuff don't worry about it mate. Your English is fine. Everyone makes mistakes. Just make sure to learn from it and improve :)

[@itxdori]

Graanday profile pic?

[@Utrilus]

​@@DawidDoesTechStuff I was thinking that too. Double blinds exist for a reason tho. So it would most certainly effect the test results, tho if that'd be to a noticeable degree - I have no idea.

[@adamphelps5607]

In a way, one of the trials was double blind because the girl thought the setting was different than it was.

[@SOP83]

One of the biggest downsides to the move from CRT to the original lcd displays was this. Most all the bigger quality CRT displays would do 90Hz or more. Yeah, it was ancient tech, but it is still better in this respect to many of these new lcd displays 20 years later.

[@defetya]

well sacrifices needed to be made

[@connergreen3178]

Someone commented "The human eye can't see more than 4gb of ram " But what they don't realize, is most people download more RAM. smh

[@anthonyramirez4505]

@Indecisive is it possible to download a graphics card?

[@connergreen3178]

@Indecisive yes

[@connergreen3178]

@Indecisive Yeah, the amount of times you delete System 32, will double or triple the amount of ram you get

[@LadyMaria_AstralClocktower]

@@connergreen3178 can confirm i just got 64 ram

[@anthonyramirez4505]

@Indecisive delete the windows folder

[@krishnasampath1138]

I think this is a good time to share with everyone that I'm playing Rise of The Tomb Raider at 10fps 🙃 Edit: I recently built a good rig. I am able to game well now.

[@swastickpaliwal6105]

Oh ya, try playing csgo at 15 and gta V at 2

[@swastickpaliwal6105]

And minecraft at 20

[@shaneg5630]

Swastick i0i WIZARD Jesus dude that’s so bad haha and cs:go ain’t demanding at all

[@vitaliy1858]

@@shaneg5630 even I have more than 60 fps on CS with a LAPTOP lmaoo (it's a pretty good one, but still Minecraft lags a bit on it, but never csgo)

[@swastickpaliwal6105]

@@shaneg5630 lol Ik right, I have a budget laptop from 2013, with and amd A4 apu 😂😂, my 2 year old pocophone f1 is litterally twice the speed of my laptop

[@champagnepandaog3305]

I’ve played on 60 my whole life, and I went to 165, It felt so smooth and amazing

[@mohammedzada6665]

165 is very specific

[@seshieman2579]

Mohammed Zada not really u can get 165 hz monitors everywhere

[@SlideGD]

Mohammed Zada 165hz 1440p is a pretty good monitor

[@deepfriedewoks7657]

Same! When I got a 144hz monitor I was just moving around in the game just amazed by how smooth and huge of a difference it made

[@HeenaPatel253]

I played at 60 my life life I think it’s time to change

[@sameerahmohammed6622]

I’ve never met anybody that could play Doom without dropping a few f bombs

[@megaman9307]

1. Hz and FPS are not the same thing. 2. Double-blind means neither the proctor nor the testee knows the variables. 3. Disable motion blur

[@TheMedievalNerd]

1 Hertz: 1 Cycle Per Second. 1 Frame Rate : 1 Frame Drawn Per Second. Not the same per se. But interchangeable in the context of Frames Per Second. Both units measure something that happens per second. One is generic and can be applied to many things, the other is specific. You could say that Frame Per Second is a child of Hertz. :P

[@Egan466]

@@TheMedievalNerd I was about to write the same XD

[@vect0r858]

@@TheMedievalNerd If I slap you at 10 SPS (slaps per second) it still hertz, so they're the same.

[@InfamousGameplaysPT]

@@vect0r858 If you'd slap me 144 SPS and the "monitor" that it was being played on was at 60 hertz, then you'd only see 60 SPS

[@TheRealFobican]

In this instance you´re both wrong and right about the first one, the difference is that the monitor allows the gpu to push more frames per second as the maximum amount at 144hz normally unless it´s running extremely well where you can see nearly 300fps in old titles such as original CounterStrike and so forth.

[@Olkard]

Took me a few seconds to realize I can't see the improvement from 60 to 144Hz because I'm using a 60Hz TV. I'm a big dumb dumb lmao

[@OasisFinder]

same here :P , but i watched this because she is cute :P

[@hououinkyouma6272]

Happens to the best of us... I hope. lul

[@woswasdenni1914]

you actually can see the stutter because even both are 60hz they are again in additional desync. so even it may halfway ok for the player on video this looked unplayedable.

[@yaelm631]

the video is 24 fps

[@sindyan9528]

Yotube.

[@JayMaverick]

Meanwhile Ubisoft "30 fps feels better for the players." Anyone remember that nonsense? =)

[@majkatrojedjece6585]

"Its for cinematic"

[@trevusimon]

24

[@Twyzan]

But a lot of people actually do feel this way. People are so used to having 24fps on television and film, that when they see them in 60fps, it can look very weird. With certain single player games like Uncharted, that are almost like a film in a way, some people actually prefer 30fps since it feels like it adds more weight and makes it more like the experience they know. It really does make the experience more cinematic. I'm not saying that 30 is better than 60, just that it's not "nonsense". Nowadays lot of people just jump on the hypetrain and simply think higher = better and disregard any disagreement, or reasoning that lower could actually be better.

[@philswift1252]

Twyzan nobody has ever played uncharted at 60 FPS so they wouldn’t know. Take a poll among pc gamers as to whether they would prefer higher or lower refresh rates, I guarantee 95% of them would say they prefer higher frame rates. There’s no point asking console gamers because they don’t have a choice and most probably don’t even know there’s a difference. 24 FPS (and it’s 30fps in tv) in film is not a fair comparison as there is a substantial amount of motion blur, not to mention the viewer isn’t directly interacting with the image.

[@hlli999]

Its true that some people prefer the cinematic feel of the 30 fps. Its not a joke. For example movies and tv-shows would look ridiculous in 60 fps 😁

[@dmeddler5814]

This video is so well made. I love that they don't show it in 60Hz vs 144Hz in slow motion, which doesn't tell you anything about which will actually feel better. Not allowing the user to know the actual refresh rate makes this the most valid video I've seen.

[@kungebbe1672]

are u mad lol

[@superpork1superboy771]

@@kungebbe1672 ???

[@oscarpetersson5324]

"Doesn't tell you anything" This take is so dumb, typical "but don't see it at 0.5x speed with our eyes, so this test is useless"... Omg this is so frustrating seeing these comments

[@EposVox]

Interesting tests!

[@Kou69]

Look who it is

[@emitwish1239]

Bich

[@yeetblitz]

@@emitwish1239 y would you say that

[@emitwish1239]

@@yeetblitz B I C H

[@yeetblitz]

@@emitwish1239 stfu

[@mesa8888]

What really bugs me is that you still haven't removed the safety sticker from your cases glass panel...

[@JerryChapo]

Might not be a good idea. I removed mine and now theres the nasty sticky shit left over

[@BadgerScrub]

@@JerryChapo hot water and soap; let it sit for a little bit, maybe a minute in between scrubs. use a soft cloth and rub it hard, it'll come right off.

[@OhHeyItsMattyD]

Jerry Chapo mine came of super clean

[@misatzu]

isopropyl alcohol will do the job within seconds ...

[@az7ai971]

burn it

[@abnormallynormal8823]

‘Ah! I’m dying!’ *runs* *away* Me: that’s the opposite of how you play doom

[@Reverse_Goat]

U ush

[@KesumaofEO]

The thing that worries me is if I start gaming on 144hz it'll obviously feel amazing at first but then I'll get use to it and 60hz will end up looking like a downgrade. It happened when I first started gaming on PC after playing only on consoles, 60FPS blew my mind when I would see it on my monitor/TV. Now I feel like I could never go back to playing below 60FPS and yet my siblings are happily enjoying playing games at 45FPS on console while I'm here researching 144hz :(

[@cellebln]

You get used to 144hz and 60hz look like 30 after a while.

[@Keivz]

Which begs the question, why go 144 hz in the first place?

[@edwarddudley3504]

@@Keivz It feels smoother than 60hz yes if you never upgrade you'll never notice but you will be able to track things easier, etc

[@Keivz]

@@sergeantlightning6178 I can appreciate that. I'm not a competitive gamer myself though I do own a 144 hz display. I have on one occasion (DMC V) found it easier to play on the faster hz monitor but otherwise I've been unimpressed by and have failed to appreciate the technology.

[@xxch1coriaxx]

@@Keivz for me it doesn't

[@TheKillerZmile]

in fps games its noticable but on sports game like nba,nfl,fifa not really

I think she should had focused on movement and aiming at moving objects too since she maybe didn't really know what to look for (since she thought she was playing faster =P)

[@chaoslord8918]

My first thought: "Oh no, don't ruin this nice girl's innocence by making her play *DooM*." First thing she says: "F***!" Me: "Oh, nevermind."

[@luc407]

White knight

[@themathanator432]

Lol 😂

[@kronillix2735]

@@luc407 that's not knighting..

[@Lordbugbug]

nice girls innocence??... weird assumption bro

[@fwble_3888]

this is the most WeirdChamp shit

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

My old PC struggled to get over 40 FPS in the games I played and when it was fewer than that, I definitely felt a difference. 40 FPS still felt a bit sluggish. When I upgraded it and got 60 FPS (couldn't exceed that due to my monitor) it felt SO SMOOTH. I couldn't believe that more than that feels better because it seemed perfect. Recently, I upgraded to a 165hz monitor and I instantly felt the difference. In my mind, it's worth it. Going back to 60 FPS isn't as bad as going from 60 to 30, but it does feel a bit choppy. If you asked me back then, I would say that when it comes to online FPS games, then 40 would be the minimum, but now I would say it's 60. 60 is well playable, but 100+ is definitely better. Even things like scrolling down a webpage or moving windows around feel much smoother.

[@jprec5174]

Play 40 fps on a 120hz monitor and it feels like 60fps.

[@FrostyBud777]

after many years, I finally am going from 4k 60 fps to 4k 144 on friday. It was 800 dollar monitor thats only 650 now on sale at best buy Gigabyte M32U. So I am excited for price drops and 144 fps now that I got a blessed by God with a great pc, 7700x with 7900xtx gpu. SO excited and thankful.

[@jazpaz9211]

theres two types of people in this world: *ones that can see the difference between 60Hz and 75Hz and the ones that cant tell the difference between 60Hz and 240Hz

[@LIVEFRMNYC]

And there is me ........ one that's never experienced 240hz gaming.

[@jazpaz9211]

@@LIVEFRMNYC me too i play on 144hz

[@dustinheld]

You only can see the 240hz when you have fast mouse settings

[@florin-mihailuca8124]

I just played on 60Hz.. I really hope in future i can afford a 144hz configuration..

[@andipajeroking]

How can you tell the difference if you never experienced more than 60 Hz? I hope it stays that way, keeps my wallet healthy :D

[@dation0000]

any one else from "not an apple fan" ?

[@simon-b]

Me!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

That's awesome!! Welcome to the channel. Tell Paul I say Hi :D

[@beanshady]

Yep just subbed and turned notifications to Dawid's channel after I watched NAAF's video this morning :D

[@manofdestructiondk2243]

lol didnt see you 😂

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@beanshady Thats amazing. Thanks man. Welcome to the channel. :D

[@FuhqEwe]

2:45 The best part was the classic new gamer catchphrase; ''ooo what's that?!''

[@moskitoh2651]

There is two options: a) enable motion blurr and stay with 60Hz b) buy a monitor with high >100Hz

[@NoShadowsHere]

Now that I finally have some budget to buy a 24" 1080p (best I can afford) 144Hz monitor I really can't wait... I'm playing on a 32" 720p 50Hz screen, I need to be at least 2 meters away as to not ruin my eyes permanently lol.

[@HeenaPatel253]

I’m doing the same thing expect I originally had a 60hz screen

[@____________sdfaverdavb]

@@HeenaPatel253 save for 1440p 144hz it is much better:)

[@danielm2944]

@@____________sdfaverdavb so much better or ok

[@tysonallen1690]

@@____________sdfaverdavb you'll find a 1080p+144hz monitor for the same price as a 1440-+165hz

[@____________sdfaverdavb]

@@tysonallen1690 cap

[@doodoobutter4406]

i noticed the difference from going 60hz to 144hz right away and its drastically changed my gaming experience. its been one of my most favorite upgrades ive ever had.

[@WolfsHaven]

Generally if you're moving up you don't notice. Once you've gotten use to it then step down, it's hugely noticeable.

[@adnansait2810]

Amazing video, I've been hearing about 60 Hz and 144 Hz displays for so long and it's great to see how people react to these different refresh rates

[@tropicalfruit4571]

The difference is massive. I remember when I got my 144Hz monitor and when I plugged it in I decided to load a map in CS and see how it feels and to be fair I saw the difference and I liked it a lot but I was kind of expecting something more and was thinking if that was worth the money. A few hours have passed and from running around on an empty map I played a few matches(and not to brag but I am pretty good at CS and have a very twitchy way of aiming). OH BOI the aiming is just so much better. The movements are very smooth and switching to 60Hz feels like you actually see less of the animations that happen on screen(which you actually do see less as less frames are displayed). 144Hz allows for faster reaction as you simply see more and at least I feel like I can be more precise with my aim, probably since I see more frames and have to do less adjustments. But I don't know if my dad would see the difference. He plays games but he's a filthy casual and he plays Battlefield V in about 20fps and says it's fine whereas I cried inside just moving the mouse around. In conclusion, someone who is a gamer, not a casual but not necessarily a pro either, will notice the difference right away. I do feel however, that the change is the most noticeable in FPS games(and maybe racing games but I only have 1 so it's hard to say but fast reactions are also present in those)

[@MyAssassin36]

Holy Cow his last one being inccorect and then finding out the setting were not applied was such a rollercoaster of emotion I felt like I was watching a reality TV show.

[@silvercrystal3]

Playing an early FF game will melt your brain then

[@fatrob88]

"It feels faster" that's usually what I hear from people changing monitors lol Really cool test and finaaaaally I can hear your voice well and the background music with my headset ;D good job! Cheers from @Omniatech

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Haha!! How to summarise high refresh rate in three words "it feels faster" Thank you, I'm glad I got the levels right, I had to rerender it like three times. :P

[@Twisty_26]

60 and 144 is literally night and day for me.

[@renelammers813]

@Kresimir Baric the what

[@pastaleshta]

@Kresimir Baric 60-240 is extremely noticable diff but 144-240 not as much too. Depends on the budget if it's worth it

[@juanpablog1914]

You're a good consoomer, keep it up.

[@AgreeToNotAgree]

@Kresimir Baric Going from 75 to 144hz has the same effect, you won't regret it. Just don't get a TN panel which has bad colors.

[@glockistry]

bruh i wish i could experience a 144hz monitor all my life ive been using 60hz

[@diehardAMD]

"No swearing, Anna!" I like Anna.

[@theprogrammer1]

My OCD gets triggered when he talks about these being "double blind" tests. They're just "blind" (i.e. "single blind"). For it to be a proper double blind test, the person administering the test has to be blind to the test setup, so Dawid has to be blind to the refresh rate when administering the test to Anna (That's why it's called "double blind"). Usually a third person is involved to administer the test, but it's not hard to do without a third person actually.. They could have a script change the refresh to a random one of the two before each test, and record it (so that it can be cross referenced later). This has been your daily dose on testing methodologies 😉

[@BrooksterMax]

Do you work in life sciences? Its great to see methodology anlaysis applied to gaming tests here :)

[@theprogrammer1]

@@BrooksterMax no but I was studying for a degree is Psychology & CS (Yeah weird combo but interesting stuff). Can't forget all the scientific methodology stuff which is actually really helpful IRL, especially correlation doesn't imply causation which is how click bait articles are made... P.S. In the later videos he did use the correct terminology so he's probably aware of the difference, but my slight OCD couldn't let this one rest :D

[@paulboulter3726]

Not to mention they just flipped back and forth between the frame rates which is a very simple pattern.

[@NikolaBg35]

That's KZbinr "science" for you.

[@avopeac6300]

@@theprogrammer1 Do you actually have OCD? I do. OCD typically isn't about being particular about terminology and often is incredibly debilitating by virtue of it being a disorder. Pedantism isn't a disorder. If you don't have OCD, could you like, stop saying that since you should know better as someone who studied psych? Regards - your fellow psych graduate whom incidentally suffers from severe OCD

[@WAFFAHOUSE]

I love how we are all moving above 60fps baseline but consoles are all still stuck around 30fps

[@holorenSHORTS]

No this is untrue

[@gguy3600]

Well the next generation consoles look like they're going to be doing 60fps now. So I guess the whole "you can't see past 30fps" argument should be going away at least.

[@breakaway7017]

WAFFAHOUSE this didn’t last

[@Spider-Man62]

Aslan yes he is a fraction of games run 45 fps

[@iceyberq]

@@breakaway7017 gta runs at 20 on ps4

[@XxHorseshoeXx]

You have max motion blur on, for someone's who's new that could actually make it a lot harder to tell

[@BenLA5]

to be fair, all monitors before 2020 have horrible to extreme motion blur by default. I have an ASUS PG279Q and I never understood motion blur as an option--turning it off and on doesn't feel noticeable to me at 144Hz. Its all a huge blurry mess when things travel at high velocity, and even ULMB mode has extreme motion blur for movies lol

[@XxHorseshoeXx]

@@BenLA5 that's not true i can pull dozens of examples of monitors (tn, va, ips before 2020) that can all perform with minimum to no motion blur generated from the panel. For more context to what i said before he has the "nightmare" motion blur preset on.

[@graaphics2119]

@@BenLA5 you’re confusing motion blur in games to ghosting on your monitor. And no most monitors before 2020 dont have a lot of ghosting at all unless you go for a cheap monitor

[@jeko622]

answer: YES ur welcome i just saved u 12 minutes

[@tfr]

Jeko was looking for this

[@unbreakablefootage]

ure*

[@pontusryden7643]

Thanks bro

[@Jp-yd2ke]

Thanks

[@ZxroYoutube]

ty

[@pbystudiogamer]

My score with aiming in Aim Lab increased immediately by about 12 000 points when I switched from 60Hz to 165Hz monitor, so the difference is quite huge

[@vladislavkaras491]

It was pretty interesting experience! Did know, that it was so hard to identify 144 vs 60 Hz for a people, who don't game so often.

[@JustMatchmaking]

It's probably a familiarity thing. I played a lot of Geometry Dash when I got a 144hz laptop from 60 previously, and I could barely tell going up to 144. However, after a couple months, I tried 60 again, and it was night and day. I could even tell my phone's refresh rate felt chunkier after.

[@Blank-bq3wi]

Nobody: Console Gamers: YoU cAnNoT SeE MoRe ThAn 2 CpU CoReS

[@acua9377]

yOu CaNnOt sEe mOrE tHaN 900PiXeLs

[@ringeldingel4445]

Stfu fortnite 🤮

[@Blank-bq3wi]

@@ringeldingel4445 does that have anything to do with it? Is there something saying I cant play or enjoy a game for what it is? Your the one who should stfu lad.

[@deadsh0tzhyper]

Who said that exactly?

[@rizzy6087]

Ringel Dingel shut it

[@Moadeeb_]

I Love how many times you have to beep her. 🤣 Anna is the best noob ! 👏👏👏

[@simon-b]

Like Paul from 'Not an apple fan' suggested today you should have way more subs, you guys are great!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Thank you very much. Hopefully one day. :D

[@eilegz]

came from there too and now i understand why he its right, it made sense... had a similar experience when jumped from console to pc

[@notanapplefan]

Thanks man dawid is great been watching his videos for almost a year now

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@notanapplefan :D Same here, I've been watching your content for a while.

[@XenoX_98]

My monitor have 60hz refresh rate on 1080p, but on 1240x768, the refresh rate is 75hz... i play overwatch and i prefer the 1240x768 on 200% resolution scale, over the 1080p (obviously much sharper) image, just for that +15hz refresh rate! And it is, making the gameplay better! That's why im really waiting now, cuz im gonna switch to an 1440p 165hz monitor in 3 days! I hape, that i can see the difference this clear!

[@kvs4064]

8:43 “Yoh, it almost makes me dizzy.” 🇿🇦🤣

[@eljahihamgottin4540]

You put the timestamp after he said it

[@olyyourfriend]

My monitor changed to 60 hz without me knowing, and i thought ive lost my csgo skills. When i switched it back to 144 it was a mind blowing difference.

[@MarksterC]

me casually playing cs with a 60hz laptop like "why am i not ranking up"

[@BarkaDog]

@@rafiamirali9188 an advantage is an advantage.

[@giftapfel]

@@MarksterC I'm gold nova on 30 hz,

[@deliviorr]

Cam GN is garbage

[@giftapfel]

@@deliviorr i peaked mge and stopped playing for a year so I think it's pretty good for a 30 hz monitor with a 15 dollar keyboard and mouse/ budget ironside

[@dakotagower86]

She supposed to be a noob but she says “ITS A HIGHER REFRESH RATE!”

[@wintutorials2282]

Maybe she learned it at school

[@blanco7726]

@@wintutorials2282 no she literally heard it when he explained it to her 5 minutes before the video hahaha

[@wintutorials2282]

@@blanco7726 oh nvm lol

[@Anankin12]

@once_upon_a_time in_a_land_far_far_away doom is a word

[@gedimangediman]

Yeah. Is a fake clic bite video.

[@diggy1147]

I think the difference is more in the feel than how it looks. Higher hz means lower latency. At 60hz you are just used to controlling it with the higher latency, learnimg to compensate for it through experience. The higher hz allows you to bypass the mental hoops you go through subconsciously to control the game.

[@khalilcruz5816]

Wow well said! Bro I play call of duty alot and my Kd is 3.5 on 60hz which is really good I ordered my 120hz monitor for ps5 I’m excited I’ve seen comments say they won more gunfights because lower latency and u see the guys slightly earlier . Would you agree with that? Will I be able to fell the difference?

[@diggy1147]

@khalilcruz5816 From 60 to 120 yes you'll see a big difference. I'm on 360hz on pc. Difference from 144 to 240 and 360 is less but still better. What happens is your monitor always refreshes at the same interval. More fps means more chance one of those frames will land closer to the monitor's refresh interval, leading to lower latency.

[@sapphire_m340]

For just having 3k subscribers, you really make wholesome content!

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Thank you very much. :D

[@Jonathanlouisa]

I'm pretty sure Ana played alot better than the paid journalist from Polygon.

[@atnfn]

Well, game urinalists (don't know who came up with that?) don't actually play or care about games. They are just leftist activists / SJWs. They've infiltrated all of society with their evil.

[@bear5016]

@@atnfn Jeremy (The Quartering) comes to mind, but im not sure if he coined the term. He does use it a lot though.

[@minoanlight4545]

If I could tell difference between 60 and 75 Hz, I can definitely tell difference between 60 and 144 Hz. Just try scroll through page of text on 60 and 144 Hz monitor. Even biggest naysayers will be convinced.

[@zahidshabir4038]

unless they are die hard console peasants who will claim things like the human eye can't see past 60 frames per second and the game looks way too fast (according to videos I used to watch on how bad the logic of die hard console peasants were) when the difference is not that it looks faster but that it looks smoother and more realistic BUT when the new consoles come out they will call 120Hz the new 60 Hz because apparently Microsoft is going for up to 120Hz on their new xBox console so once they get convinced by console manufacturers that higher refresh rates are better they will just claim that the max the console can do is the most a human eye can see or BS like that

[@gabrielst527]

i can quickly see it moving the mouse in the desktop, i don't know why she couldn't do it with a fast paced game.

[@leandrofod]

I highly agree and relate with this. I've been stuck at 60 fps for years and I just got a new 144hz monitor. Even tho my pc isn't strong enough, I now play games at average 90-100fps and the difference is immense. I can never go back to 60fps now

[@v3xx3r]

www.testufo.com/framerates-text here is a perfect test for what you're talking about.

[@AzpecTProductionz]

Zahid Shabir still saying “Console peasants” in 2019. Grow up.

[@22esprince]

I'm super excited to be getting my first EVER 144hz 27 inch 1440p monitor this week! Until now I've been playing pc games on a 55" 60hz 4K tv, which although had a decently small imput lag for a tv is obvously not the same! I have a feeling it's going to be one of those amazing never going back experiences. Can't wait!

[@Omar-vv2bu]

Absolutely no problem I’ll just download another 75Hz tonight

[@juniorcabral8042]

You can oc your monitor a little xd

[@cmcas]

I changed my setings on an old CRT monitor from 60hz to 85hz and I felt my eyes much less strained, it was truly noticeable. At 144hz it surely would feel silky smooth. Low frequency gives some people headaches, and if you use glasses it puts more strain on your eyes.

[@northdakotabeast1547]

"You're swearing Anna!" LUL *Yummy sweat marks* lmaooooo

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

Hahaha!

[@masterstackzz4192]

@fbi

[@ChrisM541]

Simplest of tests (and best way to show the 'actual' difference): 1. open any window/folder e.g. explorer window to around 1/2 of screen 2. Left click and hold top bar... 3. Now move window around screen, slow to fast. Do this on 60 and 144Hz modes. Pay particular attention to the window edges and text - smooth movement, readable text or not?) Results: 1. If you notice the 144Hz screen to be much more smooth - you passed. 2. If you didn't see any difference - repeat the test, this time opening your eyes. In games, if the fps is close to 60 then you will NOT be getting the 'visual' smoothing benefit. Your game fps NEEDs to be as close to the monitors "144" refresh rate value for maximum high refresh rate benefit. The effect is the same as panning a video camera around a scene at 60fps, then at e.g. 120fps - once you play both back you'll instantly(!!) see the higher fps video to be much more smooth and detailed. Same thing with a camera shutter speed when photographing a moving car - slow shutter = blurry, fast shutter = sharp image. An object flying across a game scene will look it's sharpest if the positional updates per second match the game engine, and also match the monitor refresh rate. Scale this up to Doom and you have the same thing.

[@PutraRhm]

What about in open world games? Is there a big jump in your experience? I don't care about first person shooter games and don't even bother to care about this repetitive "competitive" argument that is everywhere every time I tried to search the difference between 60hz and 120hz or higher, not that desperate to win in fps games.

[@Keith2XS]

The longer you play on a high refresh rate monitor the harder it is to go back. I recently switched back to a low refresh rate monitor and it took weeks for me to enjoy 60fps again.

[@Sinsanatis]

hah i actually did the same thing with my friend. i had him come over and i set it to 60hz and had him play 1 match of csgo. csgo cuz its the only game i can def run with well over 144 frames. i didnt really tell him much, just afterwards i asked him did it feel normal, since he has a 60hz panel. then i told him that what hes been running and now im gona show him 144hz. as soon as he hopped in a match and started moving around, the first thing he said was "holy shit its so fucking smooth" then followed by a few more "god damn" "holy shit"s throughout

[@DylanZ1201]

Higher refresh rates are great, but also come with a massive cost in terms of GPU/CPU temperature increase. For example, I can run a game at 4K - 100Hz +, and my GPU gets as high as 78 degrees. If I cap it at 4K - 60, my GPU drops between 50 - 60 degrees and I can barely hear the fans. High refresh rate gaming is overrated, and I would rather play with lower temps than have to hear very noisy GPU fans trying to keep the temps down… 60 really is perfect for the majority of games anyway, only games that really benefit from high refresh rates are shooters, and I don’t play many of those anyway since most suck.

[@icecoldkv8005]

The first time I got my 144hz I couldn’t stop hitting headshots in R6 and people thought I was hacking.

[@Iamdudeman12]

You still hitting them headshots my guy?

[@cutweldngrind]

Banned for aimbot

[@bgtubber]

That was a fun test! Yea, I think that a seasoned FPS gamer would be able to tell the difference a lot easier. I've never owned a HRR monitor, but I'd love to try one out. All my monitors have been 60hz because they are tailored for professional graphics design and not gaming. Maybe I should try an HRR monitor and see if I'll enjoy the experience. I see that kitty wanted to join the discussion too! 😄

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I had the exact same experience as you, only ever had 60Hz monitors but these days there are great IPS budget options. I would definitely recommend try one, they are really awesome. Kitty always wants to chime in. :P

[@GatsuKS]

I could easily tell the difference when I went from 60hz to 75hz. Clearly visible already on the cursor as Dawid said. I can only imagine how great it will feel to try a 144.

[@dryster123]

Lol, I blew a snot bubble there as I thought you said "shaving Anna on the internet"

[@PURCELLYOUTUBE]

when i first got 165, the difference wasn't so apparent. after gaining some experience with it and dropping it back to 60, the experience was horrible and the difference was night and day. it's hard to tell what you're missing out on until you've had some experience with it and it gets taken away.

[@yiguy5ed6ugh8h7]

Then don't experience it and save money

[@silverwatchdog]

@@yiguy5ed6ugh8h7 No it is very apparent at first. Just moving your cursor for the first time should be enough to tell. That's what I did for the first 10 minutes when I got a 120hz screen for the first time.

[@krazus2036]

I think she understood and could feel the different refresh rates. But after a few times of you changing the settings on her, her brain was too confused and she was second guessing herself. Try doing this test again but with multiple people and only give them 2 tries or so.

[@SvgSEEN]

actually this is a great idea. like a simple blind test, 1 person at a time, 30 seconds off, then 30 seconds on. if they cant immediately notice, I say they don't truly percieve a difference. get like 10 people, itd take 10 minutes to get your results.

[@wardope]

i have 2x 144Hz 1440P monitors. and i would never be able to play at 60Hz again.

[@Zykrohs]

Same

[@mikekrg]

And you are also rich

[@Zykrohs]

@@mikekrg buying 2 monitors doesn't make u rich

[@tatujpp]

I dont have FUCKING MONEY ON 144HZ MONITOR

[@mikekrg]

@@Zykrohs 144hz 1440p monitors would cost hmmm 500$ each?

[@kheo46]

someone who actually does a test fairly thank you. good videoo

[@DenverStarkey]

well i never saw much difference going above 60fps/hz but i can certainly tell the diference between cheap ass speakers and high quality ones... but then , i've been a musician even longer than i've been a PC gamer.

[@harshrajsinghrathore2812]

why is there motion blur in a video about refresh rate or any video for that matter? XD

[@Bat0541]

When I first switched to 144hz from 60hz I didn't actively notice a huge difference until I played something at 60 hz again, and it was absolutely jarring.

[@TomilHVH]

Exact same thing here, didn't notice much of a difference, but once i looked at my old monitor it felt awful

[@scottskadsheim8248]

I recently got a 240hz monitor and my friend cant see a difference between 60 and 240. Bruh

[@DavorBa]

rly, bruh

[@scottskadsheim8248]

@@DavorBa yup smh. He says its a little smoother, but it doesnt grant any competetive advantage lmfao

[@lexanosss286]

i have a 165 hz monitor as my primary and a 60 hz as secondary, whenever i drag my mouse over to the 60 hz monitor i almost throw up xD

[@scottskadsheim8248]

@@lexanosss286 ikr

[@scottskadsheim8248]

@Ghaith Bassem Altayeb 9F prolly lol

[@leibniz4455]

60 Hz - You notice that the video shown is similar to KZbin quality 144Hz - You notice that animations, movement, visual content are smooth like a waterfall.

[@Honerkamp]

When i got my new 144hz 32" monitor after playing on 60hz laptops for years, my first shot taken in a game was a 180° flick headshot. It literally gave me the kinda aim i always thought i am just too bad to have.

[@BasePuma4007]

I had the same experience on rainbow six seige after getting a new PC that could run the game on my 144hz monitor. I started clutching and dunking on people in ways I never thought I was good enough to do.

[@MacDamera]

you changed it every time, you should have kept it the same like 3 times in a row and see if they change the answer

[@cattysplat]

Yep, following the basic pattern is a huge fail, humans can and will follow a pattern of behaviour really easily. Should have also thrown some curveballs in there considering you can set a monitor to all sorts of settings like 100, 30, 50.

[@TechNoPhobiaGirl]

Just recently found your channel. I quickly recognized your accent as South African, but I just looked at your About page and it says your location is CANADA! Whaaaat?! How'd you end up HERE, of all places? Really enjoy your vids, BTW!

[@threefavors3744]

Yeah I also identified his accent right away. Just wish I could move to Canada as well..

[@0BuLLeT01]

Same thing that stood out to me instantly. Nice to see. Great content.

[@-Jakob-]

I grew up when all that "home computer" madness started and I remember the CRT times back in the 80s (320x256@50Hz) and 90s (up to 1280x1024@85Hz), didn't like the TFTs and the early LCDs (TN) and even don't like 60Hz IPS Panels - but now I'm slowly beginning to like 144Hz Panels that are starting to handle smearing (today we say motion blur) in an almost reasonable way comparing to the old CRTs which were great in that regard. And I appreciate the high FPS a lot.

[@ashleycollier9980]

I would be interested to see if you can tell the difference between 60hz and 75hz, i've seen a few 75hz monitors and considered getting one as i have a low spec pc. I would also like to see if Anna can build a PC, there's a lot of talk that building a PC is easy like building LEGO but i beg to differ, for the challenge shes is allowed to use google.

[@JesseMeeding]

I'm currently using an LG ultrawide that runs at 75hz and the difference isn't as drastic as 60 vs 144 (obviously) but it's still a small luxury I'll take any day.

[@HuntaKiller91]

I currently am using an acer 32" 1080p 75hz freesync monitor.. coming from no sync 60hz monitor, it's a beast for the price of $199 when i bought it

[@caseyjones1657]

@@HuntaKiller91 which model monitor?

[@DJ.1001]

75 to 60 is noticeable but it's not worth an upgrade. 24" 1080p 144hz monitors are now dipping close to $150 USD.

[@sopcannon]

bitwit done a couple of videos building pcs with inexperienced people and even racing them too

[@davy1972]

You have a lot of life in this video. It was interesting and exciting.

[@seyniole1898]

My retinas are in LCD, is it just genetic or can we change that?

[@gpcrafty9570]

I think you can upgrade your hardware

[@MEZHGANO]

After a 144hz monitor, 60hz monitor feels like you're drunk. My second old monitor is 60hz and when i drag cursor over it it feels like everything is slow and sluggish.

[@MrSovalev]

you may dont see difference when you never experienced and somene shows you 144hz. but when you used to 144hz and someone shows you 60hz in fast paced game, your eyes start to bleeding out blood.

[@PaLaS0]

When I first got my 144hz monitor I was still running 60 hz, my brother said something wasn't right and noticed that I haven't changed it and put it on 144hz, I instantly felt a difference, (even on desktop) and can't switch back since.

[@_Leouch]

Ye, I have 144hz monitor. difference IS HUGE, even on desktop

[@Cheepchipsable]

It makes Excel COME ALIVE!

[@Bloodrayne800]

I recently switched from a 32" 75Hz monitor to a 27" 144Hz Gsync monitor and I noticed a massive difference straight away, especially in Call of Duty and Battlefield both at 1440p and yes I have an nvidia card

[@psaltis21r]

online commpetitive? of course/ but single player? if you have 4k i thing are more beautiful on the eye even though 60 fps

[@suyogghosh9132]

Isn't the light in our house like 50-60hz and we still can't perceive it? How's 144hz making any difference then?

[@AceTac]

It doesn’t really all it is added motion blur - the brain works it all out

[@manofdestructiondk2243]

Im here from "Not an apple fan". If Paul approves, it must be good :D

[@notanapplefan]

Dawid is so much fun he makes funny vids and yet knows his stuff been watching him for ages now

[@DawidDoesTechStuff]

@@notanapplefan Thank you very much. I really appreciate your recommendation. :D