Day 5-7 without kratom. Observations on gentle taper vs cold turkey

[@1Psalmaday]

Jesus loves you brother. I know the depression, withdrawal, boredom and apathy and disdain towards life. That lavk of emotion and feeling, but Jesus is always with us. Keep pushing. Jesus changes us and can remove addiction.

[@quaaludecowboy692]

Brother I'm hearing everything you say. Quit almost 2 years ago after a 60 gpd 5 year habit. It was awful. Used gabapentin for a bit too long as a crutch and had wds from that. Tried booze, which worked for a bit but eventually gave me screaming anxiety in the mornings. Point is hang the fuck in there. Youre doing it right, embrace the suck and youll be on be on the other side before you know it. I love you and I'm rooting for you.

[@Beastmaster1221]

Thank u 🩵

[@MrSeethe]

In a month you'll be fine. Abused it for a year and the withdrawal is nothing compared to coming off benzos or opioids

[@ladybug4207]

Thank you for sharing. 5 years daily use. 3 to 5 doses daily. About to start weaning. Anxious about the skin crawls and restless legs and arms. Only tried quitting once and didn't do well. Good luck to you in all you do.

[@TK-sz6nj]

Thank you and Goodluck to you too, you can do it! Mentally "quit" every day, even when your plan is to ween

[@maryriemer0225]

U got this!!! 👍 Im super happy for you. Trust me, life only gets better now 👍💯💪🌟💫

[@zenobiooibonez5097]

Something i came across that helps rebuild the brain after quitting kratom is DLPA and agmatine sulfate. Also high dose vitamin c and berry smoothies. Tabatta Sprinting is extremely excellent for feeling great and also short spurts on the bike in the heaviest gears. For about 30 seconds pushing as hard as you absolutely can. Its soo good to just feel great naturally.

[@ThirdEyeNation.]

Most underated comment/knowledge. I am an ex-Iv Fent. user - sober for 3.5 years and DLPA was such a HUGE (and still continues to be) ASSISTANCE in recovery as it inhibits certain proteins that will allow you to "reclaim" or produce .. probably better to understand it as a vitamin?* supplement?* that helps produce endorphins and dopamine. It's not a drug, and it doesn't innebriate you whatsoever. What it does do is assist someone who is not producing enough endorphins do so - where as otherwise the brain/body has a very difficult time re-adjusting and balancing out. DLPA ftw.

[@TK-sz6nj]

That's awesome advice 👍 coincidentally I'm utilizing all of those except for DLPA, never heard of that before. Thanks

[@zenobiooibonez5097]

@@TK-sz6nj nice! Yeah there are two kinds D- phenylalanine and L-phenylalanine. Both pretty much do the same thing but are the precursors for L-Tyrosine and the precursor for dopamine. All which are essential for rebuilding the brain after drug use. I actually just got my first order today from Amazon. As I am going to quit the kratom again. And I'll never go back to that ever again. I was able to quit years ago but for whatever dumb reason I decided I would tell myself I would microdose. But it doesn't work. Once an addict always an addict. Never ever going back again this time. But I'm confident I'll get through it again because I don't use nearly as much as I did before. And this time I know what it takes now to get through it and what to expect. Except this time now I also have the supplements to help rebuild the brain faster. I'm actually looking forward to it. Just finished my bike ride too. It's time to absolutely master my mind and get to my ultimate financial goals and fitness goals and absolutely obliterate all doubt, fear and depression. We all got this, just have a plan and take action and stay consistent and build motivation and have goals and reward your self with more challenges and more goals. No excuses. Time to get phreakn shredded. Alright end of my rant lol

[@stevenboddy4232]

Keep it up man. Shits gross. You're past the worst, no need to turn back brother.

[@jordanallen3078]

it's a fucking leaf. calm down.

[@stevenboddy4232]

@jordanallen3078 it's not just a leaf you bozo. I'd be happy to take you to school any time. Here's just one example. A regular leaf doesn't hold lead and mercury levels nor does it act on Mu receptors

[@davesaddiction2024]

ID on that hoodie bro, shits fire

[@LeSwexy]

Drinking coffee during kratom withdrawal is genuinely crazy

[@TK-sz6nj]

Lol I've had 1+ cup o coffee a day for 15 years so it was the better option to not induce coffee withdrawals at the same time

[@Pluralofvinylisvinyls]

@@TK-sz6njcaffeine withdrawals are just as bad

[@samgott8689]

Hey man, congrats on day 7. Or, I guess it's more like day 14 by now. Yeah look, no matter how you do it, you're going to have to feel SOME level of discomfort. If you're not in a rush and are actually able to stay honest on a taper - do it. Cold turkey is possible, but the reality is, people who do it thinking, "Oh, it'll just be a few really bad days and then I'll be fine" are VERY naive. The taper doesn't just make the physical symptoms less intense (although more drawn out) but it gives you time to adjust to not just taking kratom at what ever dose and time you want. It helps you slowly relearn living without the stuff.

[@jordanallen3078]

Kratom is lovely. 🥰 Coffee is much harder on your body than kratom could ever be. But big pharma isn't trying to make coffee illegal haha.

[@TK-sz6nj]

I'm not going to get into what big pharma wants at this point but personally 1 or 2 coffee a day is better for me than 10+ kratom a day . Over 15 years my coffee consumption stays the same, whereas over 2 weeks my kratom consumption doubles, triples, quadruples etc.

[@themightycrixus1131]

I tried Kratom once.... made me feel terrible for the next 3 days. Never even start people!!

[@Pete23269]

it's a week of bullshit... then it's just the mental game of life. I still take it but take frequent breaks.

[@khaoticgrumpy]

Imagine getting off pure 7OHMZ kratom, stuff contains like 80% of the most addictive alkaloids, 14mg of 7hydroxymit every tab

[@khall187]

Man how much kratom are you guys doing?? It's simple, don't abuse it. Don't increase. Don't take huge doses. 2-4g and stop. Been taking it years and I just don't get the need to start overdosing on it. Maybe it's a personality thing idk but I've never felt omg I gotta take 10g... The buzz doesn't get any better and side effects get worse, stick to the sweet spot and take breaks with a little self control and you'll be fine.

[@TK-sz6nj]

Definitely that's the way to go. But everyone is different. Millions of people abuse / become addicted to alcohol whereas others like myself couldn't if I tried. I believe it's just brain chemistry

[@khall187]

@@TK-sz6nj it's gotta be man. Humans are weird! I guess be thankful for things you're not wired to be addicted to, and be cognizant about the ones that you are and do our best to control or eliminate them.

[@ryanp7822]

Keep eating healthy! During or before, drug users who eat healthier live longer than drug users on the streets with no healthy food. Genesis 1:12 states, "The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good". ✝️

[@jonathanestman124]

I hope you see this comment, hopefully you stay off of kratom, because a family friend recently passed away from drinking it daily, his medical records came back with a toxic dose of kratom in his blood/body. It took 2 years for that to happen, only 2 years.

[@Holio88]

That’s crazy. I’ve been taking it for 11 years daily

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Interesting.. I'm on year 18 😂😂... He must have been truly abusing it or taking extracts heavy

[@squibbelsmcjohnson]

Guarantee it wasn't the kratom though... Kratom simply doesn't have that effect, especially on opiod receptors... He died with a high amount in him but it wasn't the kratom

[@dsprocks]

​@@squibbelsmcjohnsonI've been using for almost 7 years now due to having constant physical pain, worst that's ever happened to me is prolonged elevated heart rate from an extract once, or taking too much at once causing me to puke it up. I only take as much as I need to mitigate the pain especially so that I can fall asleep and not just be laying in bed in pain unable to sleep. I need to get to a physical therapist and chiropractor and see if I can get whatever is wrong with me fixed which seems to be a rotator cuff impingement of my right arm/shoulder. I can get it to not be so bad if I stretch everything out properly but with an impingement at a certain point you can't stretch it out, you need to go limp so that somebody else, the chiropractor, can move your bones back into place. Unfortunately we have to fight currently because towns are starting to pass bans on kratom lumping it in with synthetic drugs due to being sold at smoke shops.

[@ohionative5237]

Kratom overdoses can be fatal. It's extremely rare but it definitely can happen.

[@joshlindquist]

Sounds like the same withdrawals as heroine only heroine is 20 times longer and more intense but alot of the same symptoms