"As you can see the twins do alot of damage" yeahhh id like to see but theres a grey bar in the way
@latergator9622 Жыл бұрын
Yeah what's up with that lol
@xsomili5501 Жыл бұрын
@@latergator9622 to block the chat
@Schlabbekicker Жыл бұрын
Siege tournament and hiding attacks
@herokiller621 Жыл бұрын
Yeah guessed all that, would be nice if it was just a lil lower tho or moved slightly so we can see the bosses hp bar for just the boss stage
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
sorry but since the chat jumps to multiple places in different UI's in the game, and com2us still not willing to make a way for streamers to disable chat... this is my only option during tournaments... :( trust me its even more annoying for me than for you guys
@littleboyspace8940 Жыл бұрын
You should use transparent bar with mosaic effect instead of solid grey. So we can roughly see HP of the boss.
@justinwilder8571 Жыл бұрын
Welp, rip me I guess? I got the dark assassin from the return HoH so I don't have a Deva. So lame. Im running about 1:15 with Verde, Loren, Deb, Vero, Spectra. EDIT: Thanks for updating the comment with the original reddit post! The team the the OP used did not include Deva but only used Talia, so I was able to replicate his first team and achieved a 50s average team!
@SeanBGames Жыл бұрын
Tier 2 rage runes
@herokiller621 Жыл бұрын
Nah they are earlygame runes obviously, clearly u just havnt farmed enough 😂
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
I never farm necro, what do you mean 😋😋
@herokiller621 Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizo yeah see even seii said they never farmed necro so clearly earlygame runes hahaha
@SeanBGames Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizomust be those amazing good value rune packs pop up
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
rune packs overrated, I never bought any. if you spend its reapps all the way 😁
@MandosCulture Жыл бұрын
I thought Seiishizo was praying in the thumbnail lol
@bobbymunden4605 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your effort on all the teams seii! For the algorithm!
@sicxh3ll407 Жыл бұрын
oh man thx " from 1:30 and now with this team 1:10 best and avg 1:20 ^^ thank you Seii for your f2p options ^^
@crkTyphoon Жыл бұрын
Regarding Twin Artifacts, I've personally noticed, that sub stats like "More CD based on more/less enemy HP left" is much easier to acquire (with high values too), and can have the same impact (if not higher) as Coop CD.
@Larkian Жыл бұрын
I think it completely depends on how much CD someone running on the twins. Conditional CD is added to the CD part of the formula so it's more noticeable when having less CD while coop or dmg by element it's multiplier of the final dmg pre artifacts.
@_euphoric5346 Жыл бұрын
Is there the link to the reddit post? It was not in the description
@Djehuti-85 Жыл бұрын
Most promising DB abyss team so far, thank you! Just wanna get rid of Galleon, cant watch him not doing what he should anymore :D Got 40.7 seconds but average time lackluster, guess its because Verde is just +153, if Loren doesnt land defbreak the boss gets immu up before death.
@LeniusRiven Жыл бұрын
How consistent is this team for you?
@Djehuti-85 Жыл бұрын
@@LeniusRiven After I increased verdes spd, made Deborah moving last and gave Sabrina the Akha set it runs quite well. Average from ~52s to 44-47s. But its not 100%, about one fail in 50 runs I would say
@valedk3258 Жыл бұрын
Abigail is actually decent as a replacement for loren, AOE pushback, strip, single target pushback and AOE deff break for waves
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
interesting one, something i might give a test yea!
@MathVR27 Жыл бұрын
I assume with the same runes as Loren, triple fight?
@valedk3258 Жыл бұрын
@@MathVR27 I havent played around with that too much, ive tried vio and rage but i liked vio more, she was on Like my 7th damage vio set with kinda random tuning
@localboyify Жыл бұрын
cool, feels bad when u take a break and u miss that hoh that is clutch for abyss
@DunStalk Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the team, no issues with it whatsoever. As long as you hit the speed breaks, both twins take an entire cycle in which you should probably beat the boss by then
@xsomili5501 Жыл бұрын
Not me having 81% acc on my max skilled Loren and still missing alot of the strips
@veromossw6559 Жыл бұрын
It is Summoners war Bullshit Game
@zetrac8414 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. What's your thoughts on using bailey in place of deva ? (and then talia and sabrina ofc)
@thirteen60oyvey Жыл бұрын
Bailey won't clear trash waves as good. I imagine deva hits harder on the boss too. Bailey can strip, but I wanna kill the dragon fast anyways, and Loren can handle the strip if needed usually
@gachagameplayer2143 Жыл бұрын
maybe I missed the point, but I think deva's passive does not scale with crit damage just like all other passives, why build her so much crit damage?
@arthurelfert Жыл бұрын
Actually Devas Passive just give her s1 and s2 additional dmg based on enemys max hp. Its not the Passive doing the dmg based on enemys maxhp but the actual skill and when you crit you do a lot more dmg with decent/high critdmg. Same thing for giants, Lyn for example doesnt need high atk just 100% cr and lots of cdmg. Sw dont split the different dmg appliers from Deva, you can tell when you give her Vampire Runes. She wont heal a single point of hp even if theres actually one part doing "normal" dmg and another part doing dmg based on enemys maxhp.! Sw just says, yep shes doing dmg based on maxhp somehow thats why theres no vampire effect at all!
@mirkocecchini-rh7up Жыл бұрын
Thanks its works ,i saw the same team from a guy,he all have group damage and fire artifacts and did 32sec sheizo 
@ihavecommittedseveralwarcr8268 Жыл бұрын
Can the Deborah spot be filled in with a Lucifer?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
always
@ExoviusYTB Жыл бұрын
It would be nice to have the first skill monster use from siege but in caiross. That way no more bad IA for monsters like Lushen or any other monsters that set up. They could put that first skill set up in many others contents than just gvo.
@benjaminmesserer2471 Жыл бұрын
Hey seii, I got a blessing between mephisto and belial Who would you take and why? I also want to improve my GB abyss hard time and got a Beelzebub as well as a Bael, if that helps in any way. THANKS for all answers
@lunki_8962 Жыл бұрын
Go for belial
@jamesyong7826 Жыл бұрын
Any source for required accuracy for Dragons abyss? Saw somewhere else this morning (somewhere on reddit) that it was between 15-30%. But you state in this video it is 65% - it would make sense that its 65% cause it shouldn't be less than DB10.
@ahouse73 Жыл бұрын
the boss has 80 res and the rest 30. so 65 acc is necessary
@herokiller621 Жыл бұрын
Yeah boss has 80% res and u take the base 15% res off and that gives u the 65% acc required for consistency
@ericqiu7580 Жыл бұрын
Hi Seiishizo, I am using "google play games beta" to play summoners war on my windows desktop for months now, and I can never go back. It is almost perfect, except no way to get a json file to optimize runes. I also believe it would not be banned by Com2us, but that is just me. Also just wondering if you will make guides on Dimension hole bosses anytime soon? Thanks.
@notschubsen Жыл бұрын
What is the meaning in not free 2 play runes? i hear it everytime but i dont get it. where is the differens if i by a legendary rune or farm one?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
its exactly the same, but people tend to say that when someone has good runes and they don't :P however its a pretty false statement since theres plenty of people with better rage runes than me and not spending a dime
@sdk6450 Жыл бұрын
Might be outdated info, but isn't deva's passive fixed % hp damage not affected by CD?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
didn't know that, would be something I would have to test
@Larkian Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizo not 100% sure if it's the reason but I think it's because it's "additional damage that's proportionate to the enemy's MAX HP" so it's a fixed damage unless I'm mixing their weird wording. The "balancing point" it's that it's applied on each hit of her 2 hits + 1/2 hits from the boomerang he pairs with so it ends up hitting 3-4 times by whatever scaling the passive it has, still it's underwhelming considered it could've been much better if there was a scaling.
@palmitexgamer2420 Жыл бұрын
@sdk6450 so u just need spd crit rate and atk right?
@red_dll Жыл бұрын
Interesting, finally a reason to build Deva. And with the reloaded update I am still so excited about how easy it is to 6* monsters! What is the bare minimum in terms of damage for the rune requirements?
@radekmojzis9829 Жыл бұрын
Im running it with shaina and the rune requirements are tough. Most of my guildies cannot run it at all. my sabrina is +1800 atk, 260 CD, 20% dmg from artifacts, talia is +2200 atk, 250 CD, 20% dmg from artifacts... shaina is +1400 atk, +109 speed 220 cd and 50 acc... The immunity tower sometimes moves - the boss mostly does not. but it did fail once out of ~300 runs. So you can probably get away with a bit worse runes, but not by much. runs go 45-55 sec with 50 flat average - depending on shana using S2 on waves and talia teamups/skills.
@red_dll Жыл бұрын
@@radekmojzis9829 I'm running Verde, Sabrina, Talia, Veromos, Loren and got 1:07 as the fastest run. It works but kinda depends on Loren using her 2nd skill and actually strip when the boss gets immunity. Runes are pretty bad though. Sabrina has +1600 atk and 182 cd, Talia has +1952 atk and 160 cd. But hey, it works at least. Edit: Replaced Talia with Deva and it works pretty well at around a minute now. Best time was 57 seconds.
@bas9233 Жыл бұрын
Hmm tried the verd, loren, talia, deva, sabrina. With just the runes I had on (Vio+blade for all except verd which was rage/blade.) WIth the exception of Loren which was violent+guard, but now tripple fight. that's 1m15 runs on avg. for me xD
@williamtaylor8735 Жыл бұрын
how would you fit in jaara without deborah? verde deva talia sabrina jaara? or is loren pretty essential
@sergiobondar4632 Жыл бұрын
Hello, what do you think def to the arena:Vanesa Camila Vigor windy will do for 3 gold?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
vigor should be replaced for a stripper. could even be clara
@radekmojzis9829 Жыл бұрын
The abyss drangon team says 38-40 average - thats the deborah team, the verde loren twins should be around 48-50. Im running it with shaina and the perfect runs are 45 sec. Maybe shaina, deva, sabrina can do it faster but that is impossible for me to rune.
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
deb is slightly nerfed, more twins works better atm. but yea the better the runes the faster it is. mainly co-up artifacts help a lot!
@boryskrk152 Жыл бұрын
Sad... I have no Deva, but I have deborah, maybe I will try with water twins
@Bigmikiee943 Жыл бұрын
I have lucifer and deborah. How would you use them into this dungeon?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
can't say for sure without testing, but maybe it could replace lucifer for verd. and then loren for Shaina. if Shaina s2 plus lucifer could clear wave.
@adeauy2294 Жыл бұрын
Can try galleon verd with astar/icaru
@Bigmikiee943 Жыл бұрын
Tested the comp with shaina lead, sabrina, deva, lucifer, deborah. Avg 35-45s runs
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
@@Bigmikiee943 OP! good to know, is it also safe enough?
@Bigmikiee943 Жыл бұрын
It’s safe. Lost only 1 run when the last dragon boss resisted all my def breaks 😅.
@HorrizonLP Жыл бұрын
I built this with Deborah, awesome team. If u use her combine her with deva over taliah
@AhmadAriefWG Жыл бұрын
how about full fight unawakened kona in between sabrina and verde for compensating the rage depth?
@SamPhanie Жыл бұрын
Could i replace Loren with Martina instead?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
martina would take deb spot. loren is still nice for the pushback so the boss doesn't take turns
@SamPhanie Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizoank you for the quick response. I do have Deborah too and even jaara for GB 12. I just have to rune them properly for the new stages. Thank you and good luck for everyone with their runs and runes 😄🫶🏻
@ha7vds Жыл бұрын
How much would Spd tuning be affected with Jaara instead of Loren? Team would likely be: Verde, Jaara, Sab, Talia, Deva
@Warroy_ Жыл бұрын
If you don't have debora, veromos is a really good replacement. Very safe for me
@Warroy_ Жыл бұрын
+ if you don't have Deva, Talia is still good
@MathVR27 Жыл бұрын
What order would the team look with a Martina?
@Spawater96 Жыл бұрын
i don't have a Deva but i have a Debora, what should i replace Deva with?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
hmm not sure if talia sabrina deb loren verd would do but you could give it a test
@kannonfps Жыл бұрын
i guess Deva was hoh but what if someone (me) didn't play during the time the hoh was out there ? is there any good replacement for deva ?
@xsomili5501 Жыл бұрын
She was just last hoh iirc but if u don't have her. U can try just the water twins and maybe a rage / vio spectra / dmg vero
@kannonfps Жыл бұрын
@@xsomili5501 she was last hoh ? Fuck me and my timing ... I literally just came back to the game 2weeks ago lol I'll try your suggestions then should speed things up.
@kannonfps Жыл бұрын
@@revenant_of_history who knew we'd need the ligtht chakram for a weird Dragon floor after all haha can't blame yourself for chosing a good monster over something nobody used (at least never saw anybody play her)
@Cassiel-CL Жыл бұрын
@@kannonfps you can try with Lyn, shaman
@kannonfps Жыл бұрын
@@Cassiel-CL after 200ld opened I still haven't dropped a single Lyn 😂😭 I'll go with my classic team, it's not fast but at least it works I guess ^^
@b.t.b.ostatik1650 Жыл бұрын
Can I use martina instead of deva
@Ravenamalta Жыл бұрын
I didnt have runes to make the team order perfect, but it's working around 54-115secs A win it's a win \o/
@baronnaschor Жыл бұрын
Why Deva over Shaina?
@Tri_n_ity Жыл бұрын
Would Martina be any good in this dungeon, or will she just not do enough damage?
@OkamiRyu92 Жыл бұрын
the idea is to have sabrina there for her passive increase to damage, and if the dragon does get the immunity her passive will reduce the damage taken to her and deva. This way you get a boost/reduce damage unit at the same time as a d-break and A-break
@rj6445 Жыл бұрын
how would you rune water dhalsim here
@alexisletonton6590 Жыл бұрын
Hey ! Is someone have a team with Manannan ? (not with other ld5 😄)
@matsgeog423 Жыл бұрын
Have taken dark assasin last hall of heroes...now deva is kinda mandatory. Fuck, makes me wanna quit
@ExoviusYTB Жыл бұрын
It's a nice team guide but sad to not be able to see the Boos HP with the censored chat. Maybe com2us could put a Chanel censored in game that way players can blocked unwanted Chanel, like global one, guild, siege, etc yes it could be bad for some guilds if players mute guilds Chanels but they will just get keep shortly after so not a very big deal and this would make some youtubers be able to mute them to not risk any problems with the plate-forme without having to censore it themself or letting the chat but having to look all the record to see if nothing unappropriate is said in the chat. It would also make sw streams safier without risking some idiots to said ban word during lives. Yes that would not change the game but it would make youtubers and streamers life a little bit easier. And even if they blocked the Chanels it doesn't mean they can unblocked them after the record. Because It's sad to be punished by youtube, twitch or any others plate-formes for unappropriate content when they cant rlly do anything about it, like a youtuber can just censore the chat or just censore the unappropriate content, but for the few streamers well they can't instantly censored chat. Even if they go in random chat sometimes the chat number is showed so bad people could come in the chat saying unappropriate things to make the streamer made or even banned. Sometimes update for things that doesn't changed the game like ( BP, New contents, etc ) might be seen useless or a waste of time for com2us to make and put in game. But they can actually be helpfull for some peoples. So I rlly hope that little improve will be put in game, that way the content for any SW youtubers and/or streamers could be improved. Or KZbin and Twitch changed their policy about unintentionnal content. Specialy Twitch who ban mostly with bots, a lot of streamers in many differents contents, got banned for things that they can't contrôl. To me you can't punished someone like that for a mystake they didn't did personnaly or was just well a mystake they did that they instantly regret.
@zay6612 Жыл бұрын
What about 2x deva?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
can't in abyss
@Planetared Жыл бұрын
a very easy, consistent and anti stupid AI is verde, vero, spectra, raoq and icaru for those who don't have deva, like me
@MrLeonid54 Жыл бұрын
F2P, both twins are farmeable?
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
hoh and 4star choose event
@MrLeonid54 Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizo New player, dont see the event.
@0pl Жыл бұрын
Necro abyss co and team up skills will not be used 😂😂
@adampauling82 Жыл бұрын
what if i have no deva
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
then you kinda choose wrong on the hoh return :p but probably have to try sarbina Talia orso
@adampauling82 Жыл бұрын
@@Seiishizo yeah im definitely a bit mad that i missed it
@fqblingqrandtieth1160 Жыл бұрын
where is f2p?
@jembestarok4165 Жыл бұрын
Joki?
@leshleypile6499 Жыл бұрын
"Random comments"
@neytsabA Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a casual player with a 1:30 min team, there is no point is a video like this. People who have your level of runes can do and try any team they want and they will figure out something as fast, people who don't will get clapped because if you don't kill fast enough with this team, it's lost. If you want to talk to casuals/f2p to get views, adapt the team and rune quality. I get that most people here are hardcore players, but still.
@Seiishizo Жыл бұрын
most people would disagree :)
@justinwilder8571 Жыл бұрын
This isn't true at all. Just as many late game players come to youtube to scope out viable teams as casual players. I have done a lot of testing on my own and I still frequent Seii's channel to get ideas and rune targets.
@bas9233 Жыл бұрын
Disagree. This above team with non optimal runes( Vio+blade on my twin) have avg runs of 1m15, and so far haven't failed once.