DCS OH-58D Kiowa | Buddy Lazing

Join me and Jon Bloor as part of a hunter killer team learning how to buddy laze targets using the fantastic Polychop Kiowa for DCS.
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[@CasmoTV]

Doing the lords work.

[@104thMaverick]

When I grow up I want to be like you Uncle Casmo!

[@JonBloor7]

I’m still saying ‘Rifle’ and I’m ready for bed.

[@erazorDev]

The Scott Manley reference cracked me up 😀

[@user-w8s9ja034]

It's like buddy movie, man! Thx! Kiowa was born for this, fight the enemy back to back with his soulmate. Like Timon&Pumba of the combat. Make it saucier, like IRL in Western Europe forest hills, when you watching the scene for minutes, waiting the enemy trucks and then the Longbow buddy do the job, making a sudden strike pushing the trucks with hellfires or zunies (or whatever it calling).

[@foxhole99]

Thanks Scott Manley. Soon will be time to have fun in the Kiowa.

[@rustafur]

I've been having such great nostalgia, watching this Kiowa content, for the JANES Longbow 2 from back in the day. Great stuff as always Mav.

[@TrickerDCS]

Your editing and style is fantastic. Can’t wait to see what you come up with next. 🫡

[@helldivermando]

Awesome! Wow very effective as a team. Thanks for sharing.

[@TomWilson-sy4jo]

I hope that the Kiowa forces Eagle Dynamics into allowing SP into doing the same thing with AI assets, not just for the KW but for the Bronco and other Scout/FAC aircraft.

[@undulato]

I LOVE BRONCO OH MY GOD I LOVE BRONCO

[@MCP2002]

Imagine that. Just sitting there, talikng about your last jihad, eating your hummus and then all of a sudden...

[@godfreynet]

Nice work Maverick... And finally someone that understands it's all about volleyball... 😅😉

[@DAZnBLAST]

Awesome job Mav, and AH buddy!

[@wolfpack2viking847]

I'm gonna try that with a friend on Buddyspike's Blueflag server :D

[@sloppydog4831]

Yep, in times like these you see that DCS is a dream came true.

[@TimmyRH]

Great video, Scott!

[@robertd57i989]

Awesome demonstration!

[@104thMaverick]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@OzDeaDMeaT]

Nice vid Mav. Hey ED, how is the integration of the Kiowa to Apache electronic target communications?

[@104thMaverick]

I don’t think there will be any, AFAIK Kiowa can only datalink to other Kiowas

[@DanielSirqueira]

Make a video of the Pilot Display Unit (PDU).

[@Conti1]

Great video mate, awesome.

[@builtbystrongman]

Lot of people in these comments forgetting/not knowing that the FCR is not an active radar lock like in a jet and a solo apache trying to replicate this would likely have several missiles hit the same target. Buddy laze guarantees every missile goes exactly where you want it

[@SkittZee]

Noone dopes it quite like Maverick !

[@12b_engineer]

Can you do this with Jets as well? Like for Lazer guided bombs and such?

[@104thMaverick]

Yes mate

[@flightsimulatoradventures7246]

This will be the best part.

[@ricbish]

Great video man and great editing! Also the camera angles were spot on! Question though, why wouldn’t the Apache just do it themselves? They have the FCR and don’t have to unmask to use it. Then after they scan they can pop down and fire at will. So I’m confused why this would be the way to do things, as cool as it is, which is super cool BTW. Just confused on the need. Thx and Thx for the video. I can’t wait to get into this chopper!

[@AhSoul]

I think in RL most Apache's didn't have the FCR. Also the FCR can't IFF, so you'd only go mad with Hellfire Limas if you were certain there were no friendlies there. But yeah in DCS the Apache + FCR can solo most things :)

[@hotjonmw90]

the FCR is one reason the Kiowa is retired now and the other AH64 upgrades but before that teamwork is the dreamwork my friend.

[@104thMaverick]

The Apache can’t monitor targets visually without unmasking itself to use the TADS. They can find stuff with the FCR for sure but for proper recon stuff, nothing beats having a mast mounted camera to visually monitor enemy movements.

[@ricbish]

@@104thMaverick Totally agree for the recon side of things and if the Apache doesn’t have the FCR it’s a great combo for sure. Just seems after the recon if the Apache has the FCR the scout should go scout while the big guns finish the enemy. If they don’t have the FCR then heck yeah loads of fun await1

[@ricbish]

@@AhSoul Yes I can see that and thats a great point. I only commented because I saw the FCR on the Apache in the video and couldn’t quite understand why the buddy lase even though it’s super cool. In DCS if the Apache doesn’t have a FCR it’s a great combo for sure but if they have one then after the Kiowa recons they should just keep doing recon while the Apache engages the enemy. It will be interesting to see how all this pans out after the release. Be pretty fun to watch and see how all this works.

[@BunialskiTrip]

Couldnt Apache use his FCR instead?

[@gazgazgaz2]

RWR is working? seems very primitive. Does it show any air craft info through date base?

[@digitaldyslexia7589]

Waiting for Scott Manley to comment

[@Ares200A]

its the Rifle song! 😂👍👌

[@nymerie]

Help me understand the logic here: Why would you have 2 helicopters operating like that when the Apache could've hovered a bit higher itself, and done the exact same thing on its own without the need of a second bird to lase the targets for it? Where's the benefit in doing that? Cheers!

[@104thMaverick]

The Apache can’t monitor targets visually without unmasking itself to use the TADS. They can find stuff with the FCR for sure but for proper recon stuff, nothing beats having a mast mounted camera to visually monitor enemy movements.

[@nymerie]

@@104thMaverick There was a video by Casmo, not too long ago, where he demonstrated how to fire 16 Hellfires at a convoy without the need of a second bird. I can't find it though.

[@LEAD-DISPENSER]

@@nymerie if casmo had done an yes its very easy to do 1 he would of been unmasked as mav said . or 2 he would be using fcr with hellfire L not K . K missiles need to have the target lazed until impact.the L is just told where to look an is sent of on it merry way . If you were to do this demo with just the AH-64 it would take just as long as it did here but the AH-64 would be in view of the enemy an strange as it sounds they don't just sit there they tend to shoot back sitting up in sight of the bad guy who would rather you weren't blowing his toys up is dangerous that's the logic

[@JohnathanMoura]

Nice!!! 🫡🫡

[@104thMaverick]

Thanks man

[@CrewDogGamer]

now ive gotta find someone doing this with an A10

[@104thMaverick]

Check out the Grayflag servers mate especially the Persian Gulf one, lots of helicopters lasing targets there

[@ivaniuk123]

Could you just tell them a direction to face vs giving a grid?

[@104thMaverick]

Yes

[@luizinhadaisy]

can you use your hand cam

[@104thMaverick]

I was in auto hover for this video so there wouldn’t have been much point but I’ll try to include it in future videos

[@luizinhadaisy]

@@104thMaverick ok thank you

[@errorbyte7657]

What i want to know, especially in dcs, is why you would want to do this, instead of just using the Apache (other than its super cool)

[@hussamisen]

i think its so that the aircraft is always behind cover, cuz the apache has nose mounted laser thing

[@serpsupreme2976]

The bigger more important gunships can remain in cover and safe.

[@Muskoheim]

DCS won't ever properly implement it, but IRL there's a point. About 2000, while in 4/3 ACR, the new squadron commander implemented mixed teams (or 'pink teams', a throwback to Vietnam era tactics). Working with Apaches was great, but the fact that they weight as much as 4X what a Kiowa does means they generate huge dust clouds at a hover as compared to a Kiowa (assuming arid or semi-arid terrain). They bring a big stick, but they don't walk softly very well. The Kiowas were better able to push ahead without disclosing position to find and designate targets while the Apaches (with safe lateral offset so a missile doesn't track the designator) could sit further back and send in the noise. Also, as previously mentioned, the MMS is best suited to observing targets without exposing the aircraft to being detected or fired upon.

[@briantoplessbar4685]

It’s to simulate real world tactics. I mean why would you ever use sparrows when you could use amraams. Or why ever drop dumb bombs

[@cowansimstudio]

This seems to arrived too late to be of any use. Apache can do it all when FCR is fixed ;)

[@104thMaverick]

True, but Kiowa and Apache did this irl for a lot of reasons even tho the Apache could do it by itself so there is still the opportunity for Kiowa pilots to really contribute on the DCS battlefield

[@cowansimstudio]

@104thMaverick Yes they did it because Americans couldn't afford to put FCR and expensive sensors on every apache. But in DCS we can 🤣 This would have been perfect a couple years ago

[@104thMaverick]

Apache can’t visually monitor targets without unmasking to use the TADS tho, sure it can use the radar but there is still a place for an asset to have eyes on targets not just radar hits, plus it’s not just the Apache the Kiowa will work with. Visually tracking and lazing targets without unmasking for fast air will be a huge win for any coalition.

[@cowansimstudio]

@@104thMaverick I wonder why they fazed the kiowa out if it was such a great machine

[@104thMaverick]

It was old … you seem to have a real problem with this aircraft lol, just let it go brother 😂

[@jpascoal]

Ok... Targets in the open and not moving. If they move and hide the moment the missile is arriving the target you're just wasting missiles.

[@104thMaverick]

Uhhhh no. If you watch the video again I clearly mention what to do when the targets are or start moving

[@Czecher86]

nice heli,but dont see the point having it in the game when it doesnt have weapons... so little its better to bring along another AH 64 instead of just lasing the targets, such a waste.

[@104thMaverick]

It does have weapons, it carries Hellfire, laser and unguided rockets, gun pods and air to air stingers.

[@Czecher86]

@@104thMaverick too few ...

[@briantoplessbar4685]

Seems like you are an Apache guy then. That’s all good, we have that. For me I want to do something different then just missle trucj

[@104thMaverick]

Not if you think about it like this… Kiowa brings 4 stinger to protect the Apaches from enemy air threats while finding and lasering targets for the big guns to engage

[@cowansimstudio]

It's just a modern gazelle. And look how much people fly that