DCUO: The Most In-Depth Sorcery Guide DPS/Healer 2018

[@ObsidianChill]

5:35 DPS Melee Loadout 9:11 DPS Gear/Spec 12:15 DPS *Melee Rotation* 13:59 DPS *Melee Rotation #2* 15:25 DPS Ranged Loadout 18:16 DPS *Ranged Rotation* 21:01 DPS Single Target Loadout 21:58 DPS *Single Target Rotation* 24:59 Supercharge Testing 26:53 Healing Loadout 34:38 Healing Gear/Artifacts 37:48 Arbiter of Destiny Healing/Power Regen Example 39:20 DPS Raid Examples 50:08 DPS Single Target Raid Example 56:20 Healing Raid Examples

[@elijahhernandez8849]

Can you do fire dps next plz

[@ObsidianChill]

@@elijahhernandez8849 I have to do celestial next but after than I will be moving to the tank powersets

[@elijahhernandez8849]

Sounds dope, thx

[@bearandthebull2372]

What would you call the top healing powers?

[@ObsidianChill]

Betatron electric-celestial-water-nature-sorcery

[@jesuschrist6781]

I like it that you actually use Raid Examples and not only Training Dummys..

[@danielgreen5668]

The heck

[@goldenyajyuu1446]

i cant say how great your videos are, there no one in dcuo that has the quality your videos have, i always loved sorcery celestial and water because its magic like, unfortunately the devs have left no love for sorcery healer and it makes it really hard for me to want to switch to sorcery healing, i have solo elite with water and electricity but i bearly can get thru hive raid as a solo sorcery, again thank you for your video amazing music and really well explained power set, you deserve allot more credit than you think.

[@unrulybwoy800]

You're a trashed healer I out heal you buy like 3 Mill.

[@JoeyKO757]

I'm sorcery and have no trouble getting though any raid, even the new Shazam DLC, Joey Rand look me up if your still DC or you got if figured out.

[@alioh9]

Didnt watch it yet but i know its good

[@sygonprime4823]

I hope the DEVS watch this video. This is exactly what Soc need. Great job on your guides as always✊

[@jonathanrebecca6498]

I will try this layout. Since they updated CC trinket I've been using it for extra group shielding. Also using accomplice for extra survivability. Keep on your good job Obsidian.

[@bearandthebull2372]

These make my life SO much easier,so thank you.

[@LynnXOT]

I’m just waiting for the celestial guide😈 (awesome video, kinda makes me wanna go sorc!

[@rockalphazero9403]

Going to try this might base loadout and compare to my current loadout great vid

[@PhantomnMenace]

As someone who is/was a Sorcery main since the beginning of DCUO, it saddens me to see Sorcery in this state. Sorcery has always fluctuated in the Meta. Usually getting the short end of the stick until they had OP pets and Dog Form was removed. I understand these are optimal loadouts for sorcery dps nowadays but it doesnt look like the Sorcery i know. Looks super boring imho. Spamming projectiles? Isnt Sorcery a pet/summoning class? Yet they arent utilized? Disappointing... Good vid but Sorcery is just sad now. Precision? No thanks. That's not my Sorcery. Guess i'll have to play another power until they return Sorcery to its former glory.

[@fredbFU]

#NOTMYSORCERY

[@jafair1]

Sorcery was realistically only a pet power during AMs I’m really happy they moved away from the pet requirement

[@saysum2042]

Going back to sorcery

[@LynnXOT]

Meere Kat I knowwww😂

[@rahbinc6043]

Thanks for video, I am sorcery precision but, will be adding a might armory, can your next video be on sorcery precision,plz, just finish up sorcery, thanks

[@kare880]

Im trying to like Sorcery again but healing is still a problem for me, I feel like the main problem with sorcery healing is the Range. It's not that good at healing 8 people at once efficiently. I wish they'd buff circle range to the same as Waters, ( buff soul well too) I also don't like that it spawns under target. Sorcery healing use to be top tier before they majorly nerfed soul well. Now it seems like it's the worst heal 😕

[@mookiesmith18]

I agree. I miss the old sorcery. The cooldowns I don't really care for either. Sorcery is already not a super fast healing power and then they mess with the ability cooldowns.

[@kare880]

@@mookiesmith18 the cooldown are definitely an issue. Sorcery can't keep up with all the damage that is being dealt in today's generation of raid, not to mention circle of protection has terrible range. At the most only the tank is being healed by it while you struggling to heal the other 7 people. 2 soul Wells equal one circle tho so I've been making that work a LITTLE A but it's still nowhere near enough healing. Also is it just me or does it seem like invocation heals a lot less than like guiding light or bloom? Sorcery is just underpowered as heck (in heal role) tbh they could probably fix it if they changed watcher to only heal when 4 or more people were under a certain percentage; it's really useless when it just spams healing while everyone at 100% and then it's out of power for every other part...

[@danne0075]

My biggest issue with sorcery will always be its projectiles :/// And how ugly it is as a power.

[@thirstyIotus]

Danne damn I think it is the best looking power visually right next to electricity

[@little_error295]

thirstylotus tbh I don’t think it’s the actual visual of the power that’s ugly it’s all the styles associated with it like it just butters

[@ogntv8779]

I like how you're using Neo Venom Boost you're smart mate.

[@stormyslayer4875]

this is a good video well done

[@reckless_andrew]

But I was waiting for you to drop this I’ve been sick elc

[@Jay-lh7su]

Hey , love the vids, they add alot of insight. I have a question though. I'm sorcery dps and I'm having an issue choosing a third artifact to run with. I already have the grimorium and tetra / I'm torn between solar amplifier and the dead kings scepter. Any thoughts ?

[@ObsidianChill]

Do you have the Eye of the Gemini leveled? cause that would help for healing as well. If you don't the solar would be the better option than the dead king. The dead king while faster cooldowns are nice its not as beneficial as higher base stats.

[@jimmi2much]

Awesome Videos bro, Always really helpful, Thx

[@randomviewer843]

can you explain how the orb artifact works at 160? should I just put my starheart into it to level?

[@onlyeye6230]

came for the video stayed for the songs xD

[@meremortals9960]

With the jld episode...would you use the single target for tala or would you get better results rolling the ranged loadout for the adds...thx

[@rg7656]

Great vid but I have a question. You said Sorc works great with precision (24:52). So does that mean more damage can be done with a precision based loudout and spec and if so can you do a video on that? I am sorc and spec for precision with almost 400 sp and find myself at or near the bottom of the scorecard when dps. Usually at the top for healing though. I have tried several different precision loadouts and none seem to work.

[@David-gz6nk]

rg7656 use the accelerated back mod, and the prec neck mod. The loadout should be soul siphon, weapon of destiny, shard of life, offering, fury, neo venom or vacuum if you are using Gemini.

[@rg7656]

Thank you.

[@SourceSK]

Hey obsidian i was wondering is there a way to get rid of that red aura when playing sorcery ? (Goes yellow on healer role) the sound and aura are annoying

[@maddadskills9723]

Dont use the pet.

[@David-gz6nk]

For melee you’ll do more damage using soul soul siphon, soul barrage, karmic backlash, shard of life, fury and a SC. Shard has a 6 second cooldown. So the rotation is: Soul siphon > barrage > backlash > shard, Than you rotate between siphon and shard: Barrage >backlash > siphon Barrage > backlash > shard Repeat. For range use soul storm instead of hex. Same rotation as above while replacing backlash with storm in the rotations. You can replace fury with circle of destruction. If you do this than the first siphon is replaced with CoD and you go back to the above rotation.

[@David-gz6nk]

FYI using CoD will do more damage than fury unless you use eye of Gemini which will give fury power too.

[@ObsidianChill]

Well I can only assume you mean karmic hex the consumable as there is no karmic hex power and that consumable has a 6s cooldown and will only ever be 15k ish at undercurrent levels because its fixed damage. With it being 6 seconds your rotation doesn't even work if you use Siphon-Barrage-Hex-Shard-Barrage Hex won't be off cooldown yet and even if you use Barrage-Siphon then Hex is still not off cooldown so not really sure what you are trying to tell me here because this rotation doesn't even work.

[@David-gz6nk]

ObsidianChillDCUO hahaha my apologies. I meant karmic backlash lol. Same power you used for melee. Basically when you melee you replace soul storm for shard of life since it has a higher dps

[@David-gz6nk]

ObsidianChillDCUO in melee your bread and butter will be soul barrage and backlash. Think of it like a subpar electric. With electric you want to use arc and vblast with every rotation. So you will do the same with sorcery. The difference is that in this rotation you start it with circle of destruction (or soul siphon) 1st than go to your rotation. So start with CoD Than it will be: Barrage > backlash/storm > shard Barrage > backlash/storm > siphon and repeat. When circle is up you will replace siphon with CoD for that one rotation

[@ObsidianChill]

@@David-gz6nk I am seeing slightly higher parsers with 31-32k but I am also now fully 262 max gear with a 262 Fury instead of a 259 Fury which may very well account for the increase. The advantage the rotation you have listed is that soul storm is vulnerable to interrupt and not clipable so there could be greater potential in this rotation but it still parses about the same. If you look at this graphic i.postimg.cc/pdhN639V/Gemini-Sorc-dps-2-raids.png soul storm itself was only basically 2% behind karmic backlash's damage besides the like 3min single target fights so soul storm was most likely closer to 4 or 5% behind but still within range, the other thing to take into account is the crits where unless you get the initial hit of shard to crit on the target it will be overall less damage than soul storm. In the end it's probably a wash between the 2 but the rotation you listed has more room for greater potential.

[@goldenyajyuu1446]

this would be a challenge but, can you figure a good load out for celestial healer in PVP i don't think i seen anything in years on this.

[@anthonydownes5870]

Would you say this is a good power to choose for your main as a DPS? Not sure the current state of the game, new. In powers I seek for the range that's why I ask and Celestial, Sorcery and Light seem fun but as I said I want range. Don't feel comfy near mobs/bosses

[@pogodziej]

These are VERY educational. =)

[@antonioz.6362]

Hi, I know you’ve might of cover this question I one of your previous videos but is it true that Mental troll give out more power overall compared to other troll powers? Ty in advance.

[@ObsidianChill]

Gives more power out technically. Not including supercharge mental will give out power faster than other troll powersets but when you account for supercharges than its actually quantum that gives out the most because of how quickly they earn their supercharge and that its 30 seconds vs 60 seconds for mental. Also mental if you are just using the defense debuff rotation will use the least amount of power yourself as a controller to maintain it.

[@duphasdan]

Can one make an addition to this video that adds a dps load out, with melee and range, for those that want to use a weapon based style as opposed to a power based style?

[@ObsidianChill]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZzddnSLjs9ontk in my updated sorcery guide I have a section that covers all the precision (weapon) based rotations

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

Seems like heat vision is the new iconic meta power. See it in just about every raid I run now. The more people that use it, the more likely it will be nerfed.

[@ObsidianChill]

It already took a heavy nerf in the past, it's just that since revamp the devs took away alot of the powers that are single target only and now there is such a focus on boss damage that you need a power like heat vision for the damage.

[@Haze_EternaI]

I had this game for a long time and just started using Magic.. Just wanted to know how to Revive teammates with Magic??

[@Owleer]

Love the chess set up! Good job

[@curly1686]

Great vid man keep up the work. Will you be releasing a rage in depth guide?

[@ObsidianChill]

CURLYDCRAZY DCUO I will be certainly doing a rage guide when I switch tank

[@najeesmith1952]

Ha! A tank pulled an add out of my projectile and I missed I was like -"F!"

[@DangerouslyActive]

During your rotation. Will it effect anything by jump canceling while going into your rotation?

[@ObsidianChill]

no, nothing can be cancelled early as sorc for damage so it wont matter

[@MauriceM_R]

Can you use the tank pet while healing? Does it prevent your teammates from being attacked so you don’t have to heal as much?

[@ObsidianChill]

you can use it while healing but it will only aggro enemies if *your* health drops below 50% not the groups. That pet is more for solo or duo's etc when you are a dps then to be used in healer stance.

[@undefeatedforcertain8457]

How do you come up with these loadouts,? I'm just curious.

[@ObsidianChill]

Trial and Error is all, you can get a good baseline from using damage parsers and then you just mix in and try different abilities until you find the right combo. Spend alot of hours on the sparring targets in the league hall is all then once you think you have a good rotation or baseline try it in a raid and see how it performs actually in a raid and not on dummies.

[@TrueScripture]

Where do you get the orbital of destiny?

[@youdontknowwhoiam2449]

Sorcery is such a cool power that it sucks to see how its underperforming nowadays

[@NoNameFoundTV]

Awesome job dear!

[@meremortals9960]

My man finally brought sorc out...well played....thx bruh...don't the pi last 12 secs....I see you keep hitting soul syphon

[@ObsidianChill]

The PI itself does last 3 seconds, but Siphon is already a heavy hitting power to re-use in the rotation and adds may die or they may not have been hit by the PI previously or new adds pulled into the pile etc so Siphon just makes sure that you have bad karma up constantly as well as doing decent damage itself.

[@meremortals9960]

@@ObsidianChill how you keep your dummies from moving....when I hit syphon they go all over the place

[@TastyGamingQc]

Healing in dcuo would be much easier if ppl would tank. It's like no one understand they are there so I (healer) doesn't aggro everyone...

[@suuhhh3852]

Isn't it better to use guardian in dps because it hits all enemies with regular attacks rather than just one? Ik that Fury has the high damage burst attack that hits all enemies, but you aren't using offering so he wouldn't be doing it consistently, especially in drawn out fights

[@ObsidianChill]

Suuhhh even with fury having reduced power the overall dmg is still higher vs guardian. There will still be plenty of moments throughout the raid where fury will be on full power in addition to anytime fury gets power from the Gemini artifact or supercharges etc. greater potential for dmg is always with fury. Guardian is more for solo content where it will taunt for you

[@meremortals9960]

How you keep your adds from flying all over the place lol

[@rhufnagel]

How is sorcery ranged dps and hard light ranged dps currently? Ive been playing fire for a bit since I came back but have 2 alts i want to catch up as well. Thank you OC. If ranged is bad can you do a decent medium ranged build? im not a huge fan of melee.

[@ObsidianChill]

for ranged damage sorcery will be better than hard light for aoe. If its a boss fight where you have to be ranged hard light does much better there but for general aoe sorcery is decent.

[@rhufnagel]

@@ObsidianChill Thank you for the reply. Wanted to try to make a Dr. Fate type character for dps. Not sure if you had a mixed build for that, taking the best for mid to long ranged skills? Thank you

[@I-am-MasterChief]

Quick question do you need the dlc to be good?

[@edwuncleriii3798]

Would you say that gadgets mental and munitions are still the top tier for pve? Or has that changed? Haven't kept up with dcuo lately.

[@ObsidianChill]

munitions and gadgets are, unfortunately mental has way too many power issues to be considered top tier, its not terrible but certainly not top tier, unless you are fully precision.

[@edwuncleriii3798]

@@ObsidianChill aight that's cool what bout rage? I think rage melee is pretty good but it's gonna get you killed in elites probably right? Oh and the loadout from your videos are still viable right regarding munitions and gadgets?

[@ObsidianChill]

@@edwuncleriii3798 yes all my previous rotations are valid for all my videos, you prob wouldn't want to use bunker buster as a SC if you are using a 160 gemini artifact but until you get to that point bunker still works or gas. Rage melee is great but it depends on the situation, you can melee hallway adds in elite but for the boss fights you will have to go ranged which is a bit of a damage drop off and you can be out of berserk's range. Some players that are rage now go rage might for adds and rage prec for bosses.

[@edwuncleriii3798]

@@ObsidianChill Gotcha thanks for the info dawg looking forward to more loadouts man.

[@JoeyKO757]

I don't put return form in my load out, i put a nother heal

[@scottierichard1646]

You said in the video that sorcery is best for precision. Can you tell me why? I have Gadgets and it’s not too bad

[@ObsidianChill]

I wouldn't say its the best precision but its better than might sorc. The best precision is most likely gadgets. Water is very close to gadgets as well. Mental is good too

[@ishiku4292]

Would this video still be true because I'm using sorcery for the first time

[@lenadoggo4636]

Where are you practicing ???

[@Bahksanks-Broadcast]

Which load out does the most damage

[@greagen]

If you go sorcery precision you wil be unstoppable.

[@rg7656]

Whats your loadout?

[@kaherzoro]

اوووف يا السورسري كان اقوى بور قبل التحديث يلي صار قبل سنتين .. ty ObsidianChill im FSL

[@v.v-]

يب الحين قوي حبي كل تحديث لكل قوه راح تقوى

[@JoeyKO757]

Cast time has always been a problem

[@meremortals9960]

Would guardian be better instead of fury....guardian hits multiple targets whereas fury is a single target...

[@ObsidianChill]

yes, if you aren't running offering guardian would be better, I omitted that pet section in this video unfortunately

[@meremortals9960]

@@ObsidianChill thx pimpin lol...I see you wanted to get off of sorc asap....its trash but I always stick with my powers without gettin a respec token...is what it is

[@fuckeverybodycom]

I go precision with sorcery and I do pretty decent and I use offering but it’s needed cuz I’m precision I understand you not using offering going full might it makes a lot of sense plus I know somebody that made sorcery work without offering it’s the key to making good might loadout a in my opinion

[@ObsidianChill]

Sorcery Precision is definitely the way to go if you like sorc.

[@fuckeverybodycom]

ObsidianChillDCUO I didn’t expect to hear that from you seriously I’m surprised 😮

[@ObsidianChill]

@@fuckeverybodycom I know eventually that dual wield and bow will get a weapons pass which will significantly reduce precision player's dependency on them but some powers just don't work as well with PFTT. The same way some AM's or some WM powers in the past didn't work as well. Stats revamp didn't do much justice to alot of powers.

[@fuckeverybodycom]

ObsidianChillDCUO yeah I agree stats revamp didn’t do justice to mental or pet powers and it fucked nature a lot and that’s just some of the powers that have a noticeable look upon them not being able to get with this new program and I am always said this but I don’t think anybody got and I said always they should’ve made superpowered more like am with out the buffs and stats revamp would’ve been fixed and when I spec for precision they should offer precision and power rather than just flat out precision hybrid works real good heck I dps out of hybrid to get supercharge back faster cuz I’m prey based but don’t use soul cloak but the what I’m tryna say is that revamp wasn’t as successful as I thought it would be I’d rather am with having access to all my powers and less of the changes to certain super powers that I used but hey that’s DAYBREAK for you to break the game they apparently barely play and just take your money

[@JP-nh6id]

Johnathan Franklin nature is literally one of the strongest dps in the game right now maybe even over rage melee, it’s just fairly complicated to maximize its potential, they didn’t mess nature up in revamp they made it stronger. If you ever see a guy named versal you will see what I mean.

[@JoeyKO757]

I stopped using more then 1 soul well because more then 1 side by side nurfs the heal

[@ObsidianChill]

the HOT from SW is generally pretty weak anyways it was just something that arbitor allowed to you use multiple times where you could cast and forget about it but its certainly not necessary like you said.

[@fuckeverybodycom]

Invocation of renewal is my if everything else fails heal it saves lives frfr

[@ObsidianChill]

I did try invocation for awhile, especially in The Throne. If there is a 2nd healer is definitely a good option. I ultimately decided against including it here because some players may not know the right time and situation to use a channelled heal

[@fuckeverybodycom]

ObsidianChillDCUO yeah it’s a situational one tbh honest but it’s my trump card

[@J3496J]

So basically sorcery is shit compared to other healer dps. I want to start a new too with electric or celestial but not sure which one too choose just yet lol

[@ObsidianChill]

Celestial does better in the newer content because elec’s single target is poor but elec is a lot easier to play where celestial you have to get used to the combo system

[@J3496J]

@@ObsidianChill thanks a lot! These in depth videos and your artifacts videos are everything!

[@cbngoon892]

Can you do a earth dps loudout

[@tbear1985th]

did he forget that soul siphon pulls enemies to the player?

[@ObsidianChill]

rarely in dps stance unless the adds have zero willpower because your dom isn't high enough to impact it. If you go into a raid and siphon you won't pull the adds.

[@dcuoffendinghabits7949]

Why not renewal?

[@BoshinTV]

I’m using final ruin in place of heat vision 😗

[@maddadskills9723]

Offering does clip with weapon of destiny.

[@ObsidianChill]

any ability that clips will clip Offering, what I was getting at in the video was that since offering deals no damage itself, offering should clip other powers which would give a boost to sorc dpsing

[@chrisedwards5447]

Fire dps please

[@BeyondEllisBeck]

Chris Edwards if you can’t dps with fire, you can’t be helped.

[@chrisedwards5447]

BeyondEllisBeck you ever thought maybe I just wanted his opinion on fire dps

[@smiggieballs8805]

BRAVO👏👏👏 BRAVO

[@JoeyKO757]

I just spam vengeance it works out good

[@rockjm9876543210]

Do earth or atomic next please.

[@PawsomePaw]

Earth rly ? Spamm jackhammer lol

[@rockjm9876543210]

@@PawsomePaw Earth tanking? Earth range? It's more components to earth that I'm interested in than earth melee.

[@deathkid2672]

Whats the best power for healing nd plz dont say water

[@ObsidianChill]

Death Kid in general for healing it’s electric. Celestial is good too but I’d put elec and nature as the best support healer but it’s not as great solo

[@deathkid2672]

@@ObsidianChill but aint electric power hungry water an electric are burst heals

[@ObsidianChill]

Death Kid yea for sure electric is power hungry but that’s more because players will overheal and burn through power. Water is a nice balance but electric, nature are great depending on the situation

[@rio2591]

Do a guide on water

[@ObsidianChill]

M N I have already done a guide on water here is the link :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/epXSd5mYf6dsrs0

[@JoeyKO757]

The orb at 160 is good

[@xcm720]

Is nature better?

[@ObsidianChill]

Nature is the better healer and dps yes. The only thing nature misses is the group shield supercharge

[@jeangrey2788]

Still good load out for today?

[@ObsidianChill]

there is a 2019 one that is a bit better, I will be working on a new one

[@papoosh628]

1hr oh my but Noiiiiice

[@lewisneofitou1035]

Your video the fucking best love u man don’t stop at all

[@dcuoffendinghabits7949]

I use to clip shard with renewal and by time I was half way through renewal everyone was full

[@toccandocreacanaleulterior176]

Is sorcery free?

[@fuckeverybodycom]

Your healer looks like fury 😂

[@KINGRQDNEY]

lol I bet he won't stay sorcery for long

[@ObsidianChill]

facts i'll be celestial tomorrow lol and I don't really want to be celestial either which is why I left that till last haha rip me

[@JoeyKO757]

Found it

[@user-hg2xr3bu7m]

Why you in my league hall Chill 😂😂😂

[@ObsidianChill]

R1 lol :p every video I make I don’t like to be in the same spot so I pick a random base or league hall from my list to record the background

[@user-hg2xr3bu7m]

ObsidianChillDCUO they said in kik you used it for the video I knew you went to the chess board lol

[@ObsidianChill]

R1 :D thanks to whomever added me to the list haha it worked out

[@user-hg2xr3bu7m]

ObsidianChillDCUO I added adversary lol a couple weeks ago. Think I got Earth Warrior to come show me something

[@DangerouslyActive]

3rd 🤷‍♂️

[@reckless_andrew]

An 1hr 😱😱😱

[@stevenbenalcazarhidalgo283]

Rip dcuo....

[@-bright8545]

I thought we talked about this... I'm not in the video? Dislike!

[@Angeld086]

DCUO Soul ur twash tho

[@-bright8545]

@@Angeld086 oh yeah? Tank comp right now