The Brilliance of Andor

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That0therGeorge

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@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
I would not hesitate in calling 'Andor' the best piece of 'Star Wars' media since 1980. What do you think of the first season?
@Starwars-Fanboy
@Starwars-Fanboy Жыл бұрын
Andor is exactly what starwars needed. The general concensus before the show came out was, "we don't need a story about a throwaway spinoff character". But it turned out to be a masterpiece. The tone and writing was very refreshing, especially after all the "mandoverse" shows that felt samey.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@Starwars-Fanboy Completely agreed. It's so bizarre to think that the shows starring these well established characters have been poor in terms of quality and yet 'Andor' really shined through.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker Жыл бұрын
Andor’s creators made made one misstep. A tiny, simple, and *major* one. The name of the show. Andor is not an accurate name for the series.
@hoos3014
@hoos3014 11 ай бұрын
⁠It's not bizarre. Boba Fett was a paper-thin character to begin with. They never should have tried to make a whole show about him. OWK is a great character but his story has been *completely* told. There's no more blood to squeeze from that stone. IMO, that is the main reason why those shows were creative failures.
@arneczool6614
@arneczool6614 11 ай бұрын
The only reason why I don't count Andor ahead of Episode 4-6 is simply the fact that George Lucas' Fantasy has initially created the world that Andor utilizes as setting, and that I have big respect for this part of Georges work. But nothing in Star Wars ever before Andor has managed to get me tears in the eyes ... multiple times ... even when rewatching the same scenes ... I am still speechless when listening to especially those 3 speeches that even more elevate Andor above nearly every media thing we get to see. You really feel with Andy Serkins, with Marva, with Luthen ... and they have a power thats very rarely achieved ... and still with nuance, with brain, with passion ... I simply LOVE Andor. It brought so much more then I could ever have hoped for in Star Wars. If Season 2 keeps that level of quality, we have an eternal masterpiece, that has no reason to hide behind a "Lord of the Rings" and other rare movies of this genius. Just that it hides its move qualities in the framework of a series ... sadly excluding it from the Oscars it deserves. The force is with Andor. Forever.
@jeolban3287
@jeolban3287 10 ай бұрын
When I realised that Andor made me excited seeing Mon Mothma talking about funding, I knew it was something special.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
I feel like if it was in any other 'Star Wars' show a conversation like that would be so dull.
@jeolban3287
@jeolban3287 10 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge I would be surprised if they had such scenes, at all. At this point, the other shows feel like they're too afraid to treat their audience's intelligence with any form of respect. We get scene after scene of pointless action that have no real stakes. As much as I went rabid for Hayden's episode in Ahsoka, it was purely for nostalgia, and nothing else. It had a few cool lightsaber sequences, but I felt nothing for the characters except disdain for Thrawn's depiction. The Mandalorian season 3 had too much of pointless filler I couldn't even finish it. Season 1 had impressive highs, but major lows. Season 2 had that Bill Burr episode, but not much else. Luke Skywalker's entrance, I guess, but even that action scene was lackluster. Season 3 was just too much for me. Book of Boba Fett and Kenobi weren't even shy about being shameless cash-ins that solely exist for nostalgia. They had the chance to make a Logan-esque series about Obi-Wan's struggle with his failure, but we got another babysitting show in space. Boba Fett benefits from not being talked about, at all. With all that being said, if ever they did have those scenes, I'm sure they would have been pretty dull, pointless, and dumbed down.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
@@jeolban3287 Agreed with all your points about those shows.
@Nick51100
@Nick51100 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@That0therGeorgewe did have the correct writers for these tense political moments Beau Willimon who write house of cards
@Nick51100
@Nick51100 5 ай бұрын
Andor was like a Star Wars mash up house of cards which was fantastic
@FuzzWoof
@FuzzWoof 11 ай бұрын
Part of what made Andor so great was that absolutely nobody wanted a show about Cassian Andor, so we had no expectations and he made the perfect vessel to take us on a tour through the most real feeling Star Wars universe we've seen so far. There were no Jedi or Sith, no magical galactic powers, just normal people stuck in the middle of a changing galaxy. It was Star Wars for adults, and it was great.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Yeah it is weird to think, but 'Star Wars' seems to be much better quality wise when it focuses on random characters in the universe, as oppose to all of the well established ones.
@kyleferguson4236
@kyleferguson4236 11 ай бұрын
Except they could still make star wars with Jedi and sith that is as good as andor if they just STOPPED WITH THE BULLSHIT FAN SERVICE. THAT is y andor is so amazing, it didn't cater to all the losers that just wanna get their member berries...I call them fake fans.
@spicymchaggis6581
@spicymchaggis6581 11 ай бұрын
Lmao and it ended up being as boring as every reasonable person thought
@sammyfox9109
@sammyfox9109 11 ай бұрын
​@@spicymchaggis6581ultimately i think that really depends on your interests and what you value in the media you consume. if you enjoy the adventure and explosive action of the star wars films, just something to sort of turn your brain off and just enjoy, then maybe this one isnt really for you. andor is a slow burn by design, it wants you to sit and think with what its saying y'know. its a political espionage drama. if you dont enjoy listening to people argue and debate with each other then you weren't the target audience. you not finding something to enjoy in the show doesn't make it immediately bad and boring by its nature. it just makes it a little boring to you and your reasonable companions.
@Jbuttafoucault
@Jbuttafoucault 11 ай бұрын
Actually people loved Andor because it’s about Young Stalin. We’ve been taught all our lives that communism is evil, but when we see what communism actually is (without trigger words like “communism”) we actually love it. Most communist TV show ever produced in the USA.
@treecat125
@treecat125 11 ай бұрын
I'm actually really bothered when people say Andor isn't Star Wars. It's the deepest anaylsis of the Star Wars universe we've ever seen in live action. It treats Star Wars with true respect because it's written and produced as if it's real - not just a fantasy story.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I understand that it doesn't have the same memorabilia and imagery as previous instalments, but to say "it is not Star Wars" is absurd to me.
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 10 ай бұрын
If anything, I'd like to think that Lucas appreciates that someone recognized the heart of what he was trying to talk about, and did something new with it.
@Gabriel_Cook
@Gabriel_Cook 10 ай бұрын
Andor reminds me of the 30 years of reading Star Wars books I've read.
@BigMikeMcBastard
@BigMikeMcBastard 10 ай бұрын
Nemik's words/writings on the nature of oppression and resistance is the most thoughtful Star Wars has ever been. I don't begrudge people loving their sci fi pulp fiction epic adventure story, but to see Star Wars attempt any kind of depth was a breath of fresh air. Nothing so pedestrian as the bad guys wear black and they're bad guys because they're evil. Really glad some Star Wars fan don't consider it "real" Star Wars, as I doubt I'd have enjoyed it if they were pandered to again.
@daskampffredchen
@daskampffredchen 8 ай бұрын
To those people Star Wars is just a list of check boxes with stuff like X Lightsabers X Force X Jedi And so on
@DrakeAurum
@DrakeAurum 11 ай бұрын
This show makes you truly feel the Empire's presence like no other. In the first episode there isn't a single Imperial vehicle, trooper or officer on-screen, and yet their pervasive, oppressive influence over Ferrix is ever-present.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Very good point.
@CoolSmoovie
@CoolSmoovie 8 ай бұрын
George Lucas avoided a very common pitfall when depicting a fascist regime. The OT wasn’t clean. Everything was filthy, grimy, and broken down except for the Empire. They(Sand Troopers)only get dirty when leaving their Star Destroyers. Lucas perfectly showcased thru simple art detection that under the Empire, the galaxy was rotting and falling apart. This series showcases how the galaxy is slowly being suffocated by the Empire.
@roboliver623
@roboliver623 Жыл бұрын
I hope Disney is keeping track of all the times this show has been rewatched. I cannot get enough of it.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
I feel like they absolutely are. Even though initial figures are important, I think they would definitely take the longevity of a project into account.
@andyb1653
@andyb1653 11 ай бұрын
Andor and the first two seasons of Mando are literally the only Disney+ shows I've actually re-watched. Disney's problem isn't quality, it's consistency. For every Andor, there's a Kenobi and for every Mandalorian, there's a Book of Boba Fett. Then there are shows like Ahsoka, which was OK but **could have** been great, if only it had been given a decent run-time (8 episodes = not enough time to tell a meaningful story). It's extremely frustrating, it's like they **almost** "get it", but not quite.
@Raygo.
@Raygo. 11 ай бұрын
You think there is any logic and care for fans at Disney? Everything they do is driven by the agenda, and Lucasfilm is firmly in the grip of a person who could care less about SW, what it means to fans, and even good storytelling. Which is why fans get the same poorly-written, mediocre, compulsory girl-boss dross piped down their throats every time. Word around the camp-fire is that Gilroy only agreed to do _Andor_ on the condition that he would have complete control of the production. And he got it, on the back of the success of _Rogue One_ and due to his very high standing in the industry. I don't think the lady-boss approved, so it was really no surprise that Disney didn't exactly go overboard promoting the show, and seems generally unconcerned with it in terms of PR.
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 11 ай бұрын
@@Raygo. Hmmm ... your theory falls down on 250 million facts! If they didn't believe in the show, why did they spend $250 million on it? Why didn't they send Tony Gilroy away? "You're getting $20 million and 6 x 30 minute episodes ... and NO! You can't film it all in the UK! It's under covid lockdown ... you'll film it all here on The Volume in the USA! That's your lot! ... now go away!" Not two 12 x 1 hour episode series of sheer awesome, filmed on location and building awesome sets - with the most amazing writing and acting that Star Wars has ever seen! I believe that the Aldhani heist sequence is actually a documentary about how they broke into Disney's headquarters and stole the money!
@Raygo.
@Raygo. 11 ай бұрын
@@jazzx251 I believe I mentioned Gilroy's high standing in the industry. I take it you will have heard of the _Bourne_ trilogy and its sequel? These movies were *_highly_* successful and made Gilroy into a very high-status player, not someone you just "send away" with a little list of boxes to tick. Most fans don't have any understanding of how things actually go down in the industry. Proven financial success + contacts + unanimous respect from peers and power-brokers = the chutzpah to dictate terms to Disney. Which is what Gilroy did, he's a very smart and cool cookie. There is such a vast mismatch of talent and integrity between him and the female Lucasfilm boss that I find it impossible to believe she took that lightly.
@backdoorsystems9762
@backdoorsystems9762 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’m just happy that you didn’t completely brush off Syril’s character. More than a few video essays have literally brushed off his character as, “LOL, bootlicker” and left it at that. I love Syril as a demonstration of how an average person who wants to do good can be enraptured and taken by a bad system. It’s complicated, and I find that complication authentic to the real world.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Really appreciate this comment, thank you. I've actually had several people tell me that I'm wrong for describing his actions in the first few episodes as "good", despite the fact that I said there are many dodgy things that he does. The show is very complex and Syril's character is not simple.
@Themaritimes99
@Themaritimes99 10 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge theres a difference between ethical motivation and moral motivation. I think that Karn is an ethical character (probably too rigidly so) but seemingly lacks the moral componenet. This doesnt mean he's evil - he like many living under the empires rule are ignorant to the true depth of its evils. He is a bit of a fetishist for the authoritarian trappings of the empire (his self tailored uniforms). This is why im fascinated to see where the relationship with Debra goes in S2. Karn is searching for a murderer to bring him to justice. Dedra is weilding the power of the state to crush dissent by any means necessary. Karn thinks their struggles are the same (Theres also undoubtedly a pyscho-sexual conponent Dedras sharply tailored uniform and his mother issues 😑). Will he continue to believe that as his ignorance about the true face of the empire is removed? Then we as the audience will understand if he is a moral character as well.
@dianac.coloncruz4738
@dianac.coloncruz4738 5 ай бұрын
“I burn my life to make a sunrise I’ll never see.” It’s forever engraved in my soul
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Such a fantastic line.
@dontworry1302
@dontworry1302 3 ай бұрын
The line that stuck more with me is the "I can't swim". It's got the same effective meaning of Kino knowing he won't escape in the plan he has helped craft, but just comes out of nowhere adding even more depth in the last scene you ever see him.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 11 ай бұрын
The show can’t be praised enough. Very good cutting all the speeches together.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, it deserves all the love it can get. And thank you, I'm happy you liked that section.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Can I ask if you’ve noticed that themes/phrases pop up over and over in Andor and Rogue One? I think everyone noticed “Climb!” From Rogue One and the prison. But “One Way Out!l is mentioned in the prison but also the heist where the garrison commander and his family are talking back and Val cuts them off by saying, “There’s only one way out. We win, or everyone dies.” I keep meaning to rewatch more intently to see if these pop up anywhere else.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I actually didn't notice the "climb!" one, but yeah there were a few that I did spot. The series has done such a great job of always reflecting on the important moments, never letting a single line of dialogue go to waste.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge The "Climb!" was pretty much on the nose, but I may say this due to the reason of loving K-2SO and Tudyk's performance with it.
@mydreaminorbit9297
@mydreaminorbit9297 Жыл бұрын
After the bad taste left by Bobba Fett and Kenobi. Andor was a breath of fresh air. The show wasn't good because what came before sucked like some say. The show is phenomenal due to its own merits. Every week my excitement for this show built up not because of laser swords and pew pew scenes but because of brilliant writing. Characters that felt real and an Empire worth fearing. Rogue One and Andor have a common denominator in Tony Gilroy. Lucasfilm got lucky when they got him.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
Very well said. I find it baffling that people say "you only think it's good because the rest of modern Star Wars is bad". The show absolutely holds up on its own merits and I wouldn't have watched it multiple times if it was actually mediocre. I do like 'Rogue One' but I feel like it's definitely lower than 'Andor'. It potentially would've been better if Tony Gilroy was in charge of the whole project.
@ontheruntonowhere
@ontheruntonowhere 4 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Rogue One was the first SW property since ROTJ that actually felt like Star Wars in the classic sense. It had the grit, the evil, the heroism, the droids, and wisecracks that weren't written for 8yos.
@kobaltmyst8074
@kobaltmyst8074 Ай бұрын
fr people keep comparing it to the other shows i havent ever watched and it was one of the best pieces of media-not just star wars media- ive ever watched. might go back and watch bad batch just cause it looks pretty but the rest honestly look horrible
@DarthEvilicus
@DarthEvilicus 9 ай бұрын
What makes this show so great is it shows the real ground level cost of the rebellion. People die and are sacrificed in war. Something the OT just kinda glossed over
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the OT glossed over it, it was just telling a much different story. I am glad that 'Andor' chose to explore it though.
@nicholasbarrington954
@nicholasbarrington954 8 ай бұрын
"Many Bothans died to bring us this information." Many rebel pilots die in dogfights, not to mention the losses on Hoth.
@kalebpost20
@kalebpost20 Жыл бұрын
Andor S1 is one of the finest pieces of television I’ve watched. In terms of individual seasons, it’s honestly one of the first ones that come to mind for me when I’m asked “what is the best season?” Breaking Bad S5 and Fleabag S2 are hard to beat but this is pretty damn close.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
Completely agree and it absolutely has re-watch value to it as well. Haven't seen 'Fleabag' yet, but yeah the final seasons of 'Breaking Bad' and 'Better Call Saul' are going to be pretty difficult to beat.
@IHamilton9320
@IHamilton9320 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the first season of Fleabag, not positive if I finished it but I’ll have to check out season 2. Definitely agree that this is one of the best seasons of tv I’ve seen. Up there with season 4/5 of BrBa, and in my opinion seasons 2/6 of Better Call Saul. With each weekly release I got more and more invested in Andor, I can’t say I’ve seen anything like it before. Anti-fascist art at its absolute finest
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Fleabag is a superb show, Phobe Waller-Bridge's masterpiece that she wrote and starred in, and got countless Emmy awards for. But, she's very much connected to Star Wars. She played the main woke droid in "Solo" She wrote the first season of "Killing Eve", another Emmy-award winning masterpiece starring Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh ... whose spymaster is Fiona Shaw! (Maarva) And, of course, she starred in the most recent Indiana Jones opposite Harrison Ford Some people hate her ... I can't see why (jealousy?) She seems like great fun! - a superb writer and actress at the same time ... a truly rare "Mary Sue" of TV (lol - that's why I don't hate on Rey - because these kinds of people DO exist in real life!)
@kalebpost20
@kalebpost20 11 ай бұрын
@@IHamilton9320S1 of Fleabag is ehh compared to S2 but proves to be a worthy foundation for what follows in S2.
@kyleferguson4236
@kyleferguson4236 11 ай бұрын
How could u not include GOT season 3 in that list?
@CyclingSteveL
@CyclingSteveL 11 ай бұрын
I think Nemik's monologue is underrated (though I do like all of them). Good writing is becoming increasingly rare in franchises these days.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
His manifesto is excellent. I didn't include it in the montage, because it isn't quite a monologue in the same way that the others are. However, I did put an edited sequence of it on my secondary channel if you're interested. I agree that good writing is rare. Thankfully Andor's writing has been celebrated so much.
@JamesEmery6
@JamesEmery6 Жыл бұрын
Not just perfect Star Wars, perfect TV
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I've seen some people say "Andor isn't great, it's just better than the rest of modern Star Wars" - but it's really not true at all. 'Andor' is such a great show in its own right.
@JamesEmery6
@JamesEmery6 Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge this show gave such a new breath of life to the franchise. Some of my favorite characters in Star Wars are from this show now. Very much looking forward to season 2 and i really hope other creators take note from this show for their projects
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@JamesEmery6 Yeah Syril, Kino, Luthen, there are so many fantastic, original characters in this show. I'm very curious to see how they wrap up and transition into 'Rogue One'. I'm also wondering whether or not they'll keep a similar structure to Season 1 with the 4 arcs.
@JamesEmery6
@JamesEmery6 Жыл бұрын
@@That0therGeorge hopefully we can get more info on Andor’s sister. Maybe a reunion of the two.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@JamesEmery6 Yeah it's very ambiguous as to what the sister means in the greater story. I couldn't tell if it was going to lead on to the greater narrative or just as a reason to have Cassian on Morlana One.
@davidswarckof8025
@davidswarckof8025 11 ай бұрын
Andor surprisingly and out of nowhere became one of if not my absolute favorite show OF ALL TIME! Between the writing, the acting, the music, and the sets….its second to none
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It really did come out of nowhere, what a show.
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge The show, no one cared about, yet celebrated in a small circle. What I find very interesting, that anyone I talked to who loved Andor were pretty "Meh..." on other shows (Obi, Boba) and vice versa! Yes, I know people who loved the Boba show. And yes, they though Andor is a slow, pointless "Meh.." not even finishing it.
@Nienormalny
@Nienormalny 11 ай бұрын
Mature writing, competent characters, nuanced plot. Who would have thought that well made tv series would have people appreciate that effort. Disney, do you see us now? Do you see us now!?
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Audiences can definitely spot hard work and 'Andor' truly excels with what it set out to achieve. I hope Disney is taking notes as well.
@pfftpfftpfft
@pfftpfftpfft 11 ай бұрын
Andor and Rogue one are the ONLY product of Disney that actually FEEL like star wars. As well as being well written.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
The other shows and films still feel like Star Wars to me, but in a cheap sort of way. They will focus a lot more on the superficial elements. Whereas 'Andor' is more like the original trilogy in terms of writing quality (even though it's telling a very different story).
@plo617
@plo617 11 ай бұрын
While I loved Andor, I didn't much care for Rogue One. This actually made Andor that much better to me, because I went in with a huge bias against it.
@Infamous1892
@Infamous1892 11 ай бұрын
There also the two most pointless stories ever written cause they're just leading up to a new hope. We know where they end before they even get written or filmed.
@investoroncoke
@investoroncoke 11 ай бұрын
@@Infamous1892 that just means Andor and R1 must be amazing that so many people love them😊
@Thareldis
@Thareldis 11 ай бұрын
​@@Infamous1892 by that logic every story about a living being is pointless, because it ends in death anyway. The journey is the interesting part here.
@mckinney9739
@mckinney9739 11 ай бұрын
Star Wars has been a part of my life since before I can remember, and I can say with full confidence the Andor may be my favorite Star Wars ever
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is a very special part of that series.
@Scottadamsfan3481
@Scottadamsfan3481 5 ай бұрын
lol ai or some Disney campaign is writing these comments because andor was garbage and boring as shit
@mckinney9739
@mckinney9739 5 ай бұрын
@@Scottadamsfan3481 competent writing is boring. Got it
@tgr3423
@tgr3423 8 ай бұрын
Andor treats Star Wars as true sci fi. I think thats a large contributing factor to its success and why it feels so *different* from everything else we've received. Its exactly what I've been looking for in Star Wars. Using the setting as a vehicle for the exploration of greater themes. Now only if we can get a detective murder noire set on Coruscant...
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, 'Andor' is very mature and is everything I want to see from a science fiction series. And the detective murder noir story is definitely an idea I'm on-board with.
@abrahamtomahawk
@abrahamtomahawk 7 ай бұрын
Hi there, I've said this on several other Andor videos, but The thing that really got me was the part about the cultural genocide of the Dhani. The most interesting angle (from my point of view anyway) is that Aldhani was filmed in the Scottish Highlands (Cruachan dam actually exists and was the base there). Many of the peoples of that land were forcibly moved off it by landlords (a period known as 'The Highland Clearances') and ended up in factories in the lowlands. In fact, the very ruins of houses Cassian asks Vel about likely belonged to people who were forcibly removed from that land (their sheilings anyway). Add in the repression of the Gaelic language and culture (clothes, bagpipes) during this period in history and there's quite a direct correlation between the real and fictional cultures.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 7 ай бұрын
Hello there, thank you for the comment. The Scottish highlands are beautiful. Thanks for adding about the real world correlation, I did not know that.
@cmoney4263
@cmoney4263 9 ай бұрын
Andor perfectly captured the threat of the empire that has been lost since some teddy bears defeated a garrison of troopers in ROTJ
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
Very true.
@fergusmccallum7751
@fergusmccallum7751 6 ай бұрын
That can be partially explained through physical strength of the ewoks right? I find it more annoying when you have dozens of supposedly elite stormtroopers dying by the drove and killing only a few rebels....
@HaythamKenway383
@HaythamKenway383 Жыл бұрын
12:57 One thing I'd like to add is that the prison is similar to the roundel on the flag of the Galactic Empire, and the prisoners swimming away from it makes it look like the roundel, the symbol of Imperial authority and control, is bleeding. It's like what Nemik writes in his manifesto "Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks. It leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear." The shot of the guards all cowering in a locked room during the prison riot also exemplifies this, as well as Captain Tigo watching one of his troopers get kicked from the bell-tower (anvil-tower?) on Ferrix. The symbolism in this show is something else. I think it's a little odd that you only really focused on Cassian's story, and didn't focus all that much of Luthen, Mon Mothma, or the ISB, since they make up really big portion of the show, though I did like your little segment on Syril. I think you're right that Syril just wants to do his best, but I'm not sure I would call him good. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, after all. Syril's pretty easy to sympathize with at first, especially given his relationship with his mother, but becomes firm in his authoritarian beliefs, and is kinda creepy in his obsession with Dedra and with catching Andor. He reminds me of a younger Inspector Javert from Les Miserables, in a way. I wouldn't describe Syril or Javert as good, but lawful. I think Chuck from Better Call Saul and Hank from Breaking Bad are very similar characters, though with quite a bit of difference and nuance to them, especially with both of them being family to the main protagonist. Anyway, I really enjoyed this video, and would love to see a more in-depth one covering the other characters of the story, if you have the time or desire to do so, of course.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
That shot is incredible on its own anyway, but that is a really cool detail. The show is so rich with character that even the bell-tower guy gets his moment to shine haha. Syril is a superb character and yeah as I said in the video I don't approve of his actions, but I do believe there is a lot of good within him. I appreciate the feedback. Had this been a complete breakdown of 'Andor' then I would have also gone more in-depth with the characters that you had mentioned - Judging by your comment, I assume you've seen my BCS series? It would have been similar to that if I had chosen that route. My intention with this particular project was different as I wanted to go over the series as a whole, but mainly concentrate on my favourite parts such as my segment on Syril.
@colleybri8912
@colleybri8912 Жыл бұрын
I’ve rewatched this magnificent series five times now, and its richness allows for new revelations each time. I think you are right to focus on Andor himself as his character arc is the central narrative thrust. I love the way the Empire is presented as a genuine threat, and how there are shades of grey, morally speaking, on both sides. Finding something this good in the modern SW franchise is, frankly, astonishing. Totally agree with you re. raising the stakes through careful buildup… the single TIE fighter that buzzes the heist crew was terrifying.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
@@colleybri8912 Only five? Haha. Yeah I of course absolutely agree with you. I'm happy that my segment on slowly raising the stakes resonated with you. It's astonishing when you compare the scene on Aldhani with three tie fighters to any of the space battles in something like 'The Mandalorian'.
@mediumvillain
@mediumvillain 11 ай бұрын
Cyril's initial motivations are understandable but yeah, he is definitely not "good." Cyril's boss who wanted the deaths glossed over was right and justified in the end; those security officers were where they shouldnt have been doing what they shouldn't have been doing, acting as petty thugs, and they died bc they were corrupt criminals who tried to shakedown the wrong man. Cyril supports law & order not moral good. He's a fascist.
@starwinters39
@starwinters39 10 ай бұрын
Honestly i think Syril’s character if it has to be boiled down to a phrase would be incel fascist fanboy, but it’s still so much more complicated than that. Obviously when we first see him he’s trying super hard to use the very little power he has, and he has a moral code of “letter of the law,” even though the law is explicitly immoral, cause it’s fascist. As we go on in the show we just see him keep failing, and trying even harder to do well in the system, and fail again, and then he meets supervisor meero and he thinks that because he tries so hard and likes the empire that he deserves to “get the girl” even though she is pretty explicitly repulsed by this. He’s such an interesting character, and I can’t wait to see where they take him in S2 honestly
@stephenochosiete9869
@stephenochosiete9869 11 ай бұрын
I watch these videos to hear other people who also appreciate the character nuances like Luthan’s facial expressions, the beach scene after Marva’s death, and the incredible dialogue. Somehow each episode got better.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Well, thank you for checking out mine! I'm happy that you appreciate those details in the show.
@fondusportfolio
@fondusportfolio 11 ай бұрын
The whole time I was watching Andor, I just kept thinking to myself…”this has no business being this good” Phenomenal story telling. A gem for anyone who finds it and gives it a fair chance.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is amazing how good it is, especially when compared to the other SW shows.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 9 ай бұрын
​@@That0therGeorgenot only shows. I dare say it's even better than the iconic fairytale OT
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul That is very high praise.
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
@BoraHorzaGobuchul 9 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge It is, and many would disagree. I like the OT, but it's too fairytale for me, and now that even superhero movies tend to be more realistic (as far as a comic book fairy tales can be made realistic) and noir it's long past due to update the SW.
@fergusmccallum7751
@fergusmccallum7751 6 ай бұрын
I like how it's focused on the ordinary people, without plot armor. The rest of the Star Wars media is essentially rebel propaganda, killing orders of magnitude more inperials than they lose, hardly anyone important dying etc. The imperials being all inept despite stormtroopers apparently being elite Shock troops.
@orchard1990
@orchard1990 11 ай бұрын
Definitely the best show, I really loved the ISB meeting scenes, seeing the inner workings and strategic thought process of them really made the empire feel strong aswel
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is certainly up there for me. I loved those scenes as well. I especially loved Major Partagaz as a character.
@jimdraven2432
@jimdraven2432 4 ай бұрын
And the fact that we saw everyone playing politics & trying to one up each other while furthering their career. That to me showed the inherent flaws in a totalitarian system. Outstanding writing.
@matthewhibbard9807
@matthewhibbard9807 11 ай бұрын
Andor is so great. Can’t wait for season 2. It wasn’t afraid to have him shoot an unarmed dude in the face to save the hassle. It has a total Blade Runner vibe in the beginning of the first episode.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It was indeed and I am very much looking forward to season 2 as well! The first episode certainly has 'Blade Runner' vibes, but I think that inspiration runs throughout the show. The music is similar as well. Of course, both are brilliant science fiction properties so it is absolutely a good thing.
@ShortbreadDangerlaunch
@ShortbreadDangerlaunch 4 ай бұрын
This type of series is what reminds me that star wars still has hope to be salvaged and repaired
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@DanSolo871
@DanSolo871 11 ай бұрын
Tony Gilroy was given a character in a movie he didn't write but had a role in completing, and wrote a brand new story of the character. Not someone that familiar with Star Wars, he left the "Star Wars universe" to those surrounding him to bring the story into the world we know. It was an interesting and very successful approach in giving us the end product.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
I've seen people highlight Tony not caring much for 'Star Wars' as a negative. However, I feel like the franchise desperately needed a fresh pair of eyes. Too many of these Disney movies/shows have focused way too much on aping stories that have already been told. This universe has the potential to be so much more than that.
@DanSolo871
@DanSolo871 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge I don’t think it’s that he didn’t like Star Wars. It is something that he just wasn’t into. He understands how it is an enjoyed franchise. Even George Lucas wasn’t a big sci-fi buff. He had an idea and ran with it. He probably expected to go on and make more Howard the Duck type movies.
@GoofyGoober-wf6bv
@GoofyGoober-wf6bv 5 ай бұрын
My love for this show solidified after that one scene of senators dining and saying “im in danger of all this champagne” only to immediately cut to prisoners suffering and self deleting themselves. The duality and struggle is insane, best example of resistance for star wars hands down.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Yeah 'Andor' handled the political side of things really well. There are aspects of the Prequels that I like, but it is not explored enough in those films.
@BullGator-kd6ge
@BullGator-kd6ge 11 ай бұрын
10:50 Andor avoiding the Empire and getting caught is ironic, but in a totally different way to me. Andor wasn’t arrested for the heist, he was arrested for a crime he neither committed nor witnessed. All he saw was the aftermath and was lumped in by a random Stormtrooper who thought he was suspicious. And the Empire is so bloated, their main intelligence service doesn’t even realize Andor is already in jail. They assumed he was still out and about working for Luthen. Their one correct assessment was that Andor would’ve showed up for Marva’s funeral but that only worked out because Andor had already broken out. That’s ironic.
@Skippyboy2348
@Skippyboy2348 11 ай бұрын
I think it PERFECTLY bridges the concept that “the empire is incompetent” and “competent people work for the empire” the scale is simply too large to properly manage
@donqon
@donqon 8 күн бұрын
Exactly as Andor told Luthen. They’re so fat and ignorant that they don’t even realize
@AaronPICAR
@AaronPICAR 11 ай бұрын
There is no reason for TV, not just Star Wars, to not be this well written. Andor is the best television sci-fi since Babylon 5
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, if people want to enjoy the previous SW shows then that is completely fine with me. However, I continually see unconvincing excuses for the poor writing within them.
@pluviumpingk
@pluviumpingk 5 ай бұрын
I think Andor is more "Starwars" than most Starwars media out there. This show is a perfect representation of everything the franchise should stand for. NEVER have I felt more enthralled, engaged, and interested in a TV Show. The ending sentiment is 100% valid too, every aspect of this shows production is a masterclass in film-making, and the music totally does stand out.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Completely agreed. A lot of the themes and ideas are very Star Wars-y - it's just all shown from a very different perspective than we're used to seeing.
@savagenoob1016
@savagenoob1016 11 ай бұрын
Andor has 12 episodes yet all of them manages to progress the story. All the other Disney+ SW shows have just 6 episodes on average, and they still have the audacity to jerk us off with fillers.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
By process of elimination, episode 7 of 'Andor' is my least favourite episode of the series, but even that episode does so much to progress the story. The series might be twice as long as some of the other shows, but it achieves 10 times as much.
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Episode 7 is the "half-time show" .... and a very good half-time show at that!
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
@@jazzx251 Agreed.
@Gabriel_Cook
@Gabriel_Cook 10 ай бұрын
Regarding filler episodes and Mando season 3 hate, some of what we saw (particularly the episode about the doctor getting mind-flayed) were meant to happen in the canceled Republic Ranger show. That episode was necessary for the overall MandoVerse.
@Abacae7
@Abacae7 2 ай бұрын
Andor is like a great vintage of a great wine. It takes time and attention to be appreciated, but the payoff is measureless.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Ай бұрын
I don't drink, but shall take your word for it!
@Ramschat
@Ramschat 11 ай бұрын
I kind of agree that Andor isn't 'normal' star wars. It's something way better. More down to earth, more comprehensive, more nuanced.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
If the show "not being true Star Wars" means that it is actually good, then I completely agree haha
@dense_and_dull
@dense_and_dull 11 ай бұрын
I'd argue that it IS "normal" Star Wars. The OG trilogy had very heavy anti-imperialist and anti-fascist undertones, very similar to Andor.
@Themaritimes99
@Themaritimes99 10 ай бұрын
@@dense_and_dull exactly!
@thekaijournal
@thekaijournal 9 ай бұрын
The acting, the music, the story, the world building, the writing. Everything about this show is fantastic.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
Indeed. All the elements compliment each other very well.
@michaelmurph718
@michaelmurph718 6 ай бұрын
Hearing luthens monologue truly show he understands the horrors of the war he's trying too start
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was very powerful.
@CaptainPikeachu
@CaptainPikeachu 11 ай бұрын
Who wanted this show? Me shouting from the rooftops since the release of Rogue One. My dream Star Wars show. And it turning out this brilliant and meaningful and powerful is everything I could have hoped for and more.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
I was never against the idea. It just seems random when it follows Boba Fett and Kenobi. But obviously I loved the end result.
@macie33k
@macie33k 4 ай бұрын
talking of monologues, I'd also mention Nemik's manifesto. It is brilliant when Nemik says "and remember this: try." denying Master Yoda's "do or do not. There is no try."
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 4 ай бұрын
Yep, Nemik's manifesto is fantastic as well.
@jonbennett5560
@jonbennett5560 5 ай бұрын
The complete lack of jokes or quips or silly looking aliens sealed the deal for me. Best new star wars
@AnnohaSF
@AnnohaSF 2 күн бұрын
Honestly my only flaw with the show was the LACK of silly looking aliens. That part didn’t feel very Star Wars-y. Those weird dudes in episode 11 were a blessing. And they could have made some of the other main characters some of the less abstract aliens. Zabrack, Mirialan, Twilek, Zeltron, Pantoran. Just give it a little more of that distinctly Star Wars flavour while not changing the writing at all.
@jasonritner9662
@jasonritner9662 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand why people were so against this show being made. Anyone who grew up with the EU that became Legends knows exactly how good and interesting stories about random side characters can be. I'm currently listening to the newly re-recoded audiobooks of Rogue Squadron. These books are an excellent example of taking minor and unimportant characters in the background and giving them a unique and interesting story. Who the hell were Wedge and Hobby really? Just some pilots, Wedge being one that happened to have been around since the first movie. Wedge turned into one of the most beloved EU characters because of stories like this. Andor is a perfect example of the things that made the Legends era EU work so well. Expanding on a background character and showing how they fit in with the rest of the galaxy. Introducing us to new and exciting characters and terrifying villains. We need more things like Andor/Rogue One. We need more Season 1 and 2 of Mandalorian. Rogue Squadron deserves a Top Gun Maverick style movie/show! This show is a perfect example of why the original series and the best parts of the EU worked. Give us more interesting characters who aren't the space wizard monks or connected to a single family. The universe itself is whats so fascinating and fun to explore.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
I am not too familiar with the EU to be honest, but even so i completely agree that no one should have ruled this show out, although I do understand looking at it at first and thinking "a whole show about the supporting character from Rogue One?"
@Manifestivemedia
@Manifestivemedia 10 ай бұрын
Hands down the highest quality story-telling ever in Star Wars. Great work spelling it all out, thank you! The only part I wanted to add was that when Andor is offered to split the haul, he has NO CHOICE but to kill him at that point. Because if he's willing to even make that offer, he's willing to kill both of them and take it all for himself. Cassian really didn't have any choice unless the choice was yes, and even then, he'd have to watch his back for when the other guy would strike at him.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
It is an excellent show. And thank you so much for your kind words!
@jamesgorospe990
@jamesgorospe990 5 ай бұрын
Cassian Andor is by far one of my most favorite star wars character. He genuinely was just a man that wanted out and just stepped up the plate when the responsibility was put on him. Andor as a show, one of the most well-crafted shows I've seen in a long time, and I cannot wait for more to come out.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Good choice. He definitely feels the most real out of all the SW characters.
@artboymoy
@artboymoy 11 ай бұрын
Finally! More people are coming to Andor!
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
A year later and people are still always talking about it. Goes to show how fantastic it is.
@jazzx251
@jazzx251 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge That's the definition of a classic. I truly believe that the delay to 2025 is because all of Disney's other Star Wars shows suck in comparison - and so, they will release them earlier to make some cash. Just like what happened with season 1. The writers/.actors strike didn't really affect Andor that much, it was mostly in the can. But the other Star Wars projects, with a later start time, were very much affected. The entire running order got delayed.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
@@jazzx251 It does suck that there will be a 3 year gap between releases, but at the same time that makes me feel a lot more reassured about the quality of the second season.
@pokes404
@pokes404 6 ай бұрын
This may actually be my favorite piece of Star Wars media in existence. Which is very weird to say because it's such a departure tonally from the rest of the Star Wars Universe, and also because I do still love the original trilogy. But the performances, the writing, even the look of the show just hits the bullseye in the kind of TV shows/movies I enjoy watching. What an unexpected surprise the series proved to be.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
All of the production elements compliment each other really well. It's difficult to say whether it is better that the OT considering how different it is, but it is up there without a doubt.
@warpathh
@warpathh 10 ай бұрын
Andor is incredible. Between Andor and Rogue One, at least we have two solid new Star Wars to enjoy.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. I'd love to see Tony Gilroy create some more 'Star Wars' media in the future.
@411bvRGiskard
@411bvRGiskard 8 ай бұрын
I cared more about a stuttering droid than any other character from all the other SW shows combined. And it’s not even close.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Same.
@spidrre
@spidrre 10 ай бұрын
The fact that this show has FOUR amazing monologues amazes me to this day. Luthen's was harsh and real, Maarva inspired people to rebel, Kino showed how even prisoners could be strong and Nemik's manifesto is such a great way to show us what is worth fighting for
@dannyp9210
@dannyp9210 11 ай бұрын
This show is seriously one of the best I've ever seen. It's incredible how good it is. It reminds me of early GoT, the first few seasons of The Expanse, and Breaking Bad's focus on characters and attention to detail. There's excellent build-up, characterization, cinematography, music, set and costume design, dialogue, world building etc. etc. And I am glad to have a focus on politics, rivalries, grey morals, and so on, which we also saw was a focus in early GoT, and the story feels character-driven rather than plot-driven. If I am not mistaken they're also using more practical effects and real-life locations to make the series feel more real, and not having to rely on CGI as much. I can't even find many flaws with it, though I am biased as hell. Even the argument that it's slow I disagree with, because a proper time to build up the characters, their motivations and a story-payoff every 3rd episode is necessary imo. People say there's a lack of aliens, and that I can understand, but there's a lot of them if you look in the background.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Very much agreed. It is a mature show, just like the others you mentioned.
@jamesdean433
@jamesdean433 26 күн бұрын
Absolutely floored by the quality of thus show , Disney people , are you reading this ? We want more of this !!! not space wizards
@richardsiegel5793
@richardsiegel5793 11 ай бұрын
“No LigHtSAbeRs!!!” Star Wars is so much more, and Andor proves that. It’s phenomenal and I can’t wait to see how it sets up A New Hope
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Exactly! It will probably setup more for 'Rogue One' as that film is the sets up a lot for 'A New Hope'
@tinotrivino
@tinotrivino 2 күн бұрын
For me, Andor was a masterpiece. And the final episode, man, I cried, I cheered, everything.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 2 күн бұрын
That series is a whirlwind of emotions.
@briansieve
@briansieve 11 ай бұрын
Andor was exquisite. Thankfully the complete opposite of the sequels in every way.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It was indeed.
@Graphite42
@Graphite42 4 ай бұрын
One scene that stands out, that is not a speech, is the first conversation between Mon Mothma has with Tay Kolma. The subtle context and acting in that scene is so good.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 4 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, their chemistry is brilliant.
@jello_cudgel9213
@jello_cudgel9213 11 ай бұрын
I’ve made this comment elsewhere but one of the things I find really interesting about Andor is how much thoughtful and insightful criticism of the show there is and how that mirrors the quality of the show itself.
@famedset1162
@famedset1162 5 ай бұрын
Using Andor as a vessel to show the start of the rebellion is genius
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
A lot of people will claim the show isn't even really about him, but I feel it is. As you imply, he is at the centre of all events in the series.
@chicagobrs1992
@chicagobrs1992 11 ай бұрын
I loved Andor. I made a comment on a video about how the intro theme music of each episode combines and the likes and responses are still popping up over a year later, love to see people still talking about how great Andor is, even though I concede it’s not traditional Star Wars
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, the conversation surrounding this show has not died down at all.
@ZanderFoulner
@ZanderFoulner 7 ай бұрын
its like the thousands of people who came together to make this show brought their 'A' Game 100% of the time.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 7 ай бұрын
Yep, everyone put their all into this series.
@ZanderFoulner
@ZanderFoulner 7 ай бұрын
It’s different class. Just learned the Aldanhi heist was filmed about 40 mile away. From Glasgow , Scotland and I never knew it. I’m trying to organise a trip for my 55th birthday in June.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 7 ай бұрын
@@ZanderFoulner It's a beautiful location. Hope you have a great birthday trip there, you'll have to let me know what it's like.
@matthewLkidder
@matthewLkidder 11 ай бұрын
The single best thing of Star Wars ever made, nothing embodies Star Wars better.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is between 'Andor' and the OT for me, both are different, both are brilliant.
@witendias5200
@witendias5200 9 ай бұрын
I see genius in the works of this show. Everything from the writing, casting, soundtrack is excellent. Best show in the Star Wars universe! A special high marks for the monologues on this show!
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, every component in this show is so well executed.
@caesarferrara
@caesarferrara 11 ай бұрын
Best writing, best cinematography,best character arcs, best show ...first season was amazing...second will be epic.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully!
@therecanbeonlyonechris5019
@therecanbeonlyonechris5019 10 ай бұрын
Don't get too excited
@NjaalOygarden
@NjaalOygarden 11 ай бұрын
You created a masterpiece of your own when you put those speeches together👏
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I'm really happy that you liked that section!
@CoolSmoovie
@CoolSmoovie 8 ай бұрын
This show succeeded because it showed us a side of Star Wars we haven’t seen before.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 8 ай бұрын
It was a side so many people wanted explored, but they put it off for a while.
@w4tkn
@w4tkn 10 ай бұрын
Marva's speech made me want to fight the empire myself. It was sublime writing
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
The speech was very powerful.
@joemills4603
@joemills4603 11 ай бұрын
Great vid! For me, Andor is the most true to the original Star Wars trilogy that anything has been. Just like the original trilogy, it takes a seemingly random and unimportant character and puts them in a situation where they must discover who they are and what they stand for. We can associate with this individual, and the situations they find themselves in, and we hope that we would behave similarly. The broader backgrounds are an intriguing science fantasy scenario, where the various and subtle truths are slowly revealed over time. I really enjoyed that Kassian's character development was nuanced and that he was influenced by various events and individuals in his life. Andor also serves the long-form format well, especially by adding various layers to the Star Wars universe that we've never seen before, and previously only imagined: What is it like to live under the Empire? How is dissidence dealt with? How do you build such giant weapons? How does a rebellion form? The intrigue of each episode kept me watching, and the conclusion was deeply satisfying (except the Death Star reveal). I've always enjoyed reflecting on Star Wars and considering what would have happened if the Allies had lost WWII: would great individuals have risen up? Would a rebellion of common people have pushed-back where armies failed? But then, I really liked Rogue One. Despite its shortcomings, it felt like an interesting and relevant Star Wars story.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I think 'Andor' is a lot more grounded that the OT, but you're right that there are some similarities. 'Rogue One' is a solid movie for sure. Unfortunately, that film just doesn't spend enough time developing its characters. That's one of the reasons why I love 'Andor' so much, it really suits the long-form TV format.
@andrewmackinnon563
@andrewmackinnon563 18 күн бұрын
A competent Empire is one of the keys of this masterpiece. And no humor, just a little bit, like Empire Strikes back
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 18 күн бұрын
Absolutely.
@trekanderson6701
@trekanderson6701 Жыл бұрын
Great video, i really enjoy the andor soundtrack so much i find myself listening to alot of it in my free time especially Syril Suite. Syril is a super interesting character and i hope they keep his nuance in season 2
@roboliver623
@roboliver623 Жыл бұрын
Every character was interesting. It goes to show that we don’t need the Skywalker arcs for a good story.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And same here, I absolutely love the OST.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
@roboliver623 Precisely!
@sanzeNCSGO
@sanzeNCSGO 3 ай бұрын
Andor is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since Disney took over - maybe only beaten by the final arc of TCW. But regardless, is the only star wars show and/or movie I've genuinely enjoyed watching more than once since Disney.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 3 ай бұрын
Oh yes, there is certainly a lot of re-watch value to 'Andor'.
@ledekou1983
@ledekou1983 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Excellent review, you explained all of the aspects that I found amazing in Andor but couldn't put my finger on why exactly so very well, it was a blast listening to you analyze and explain it. You have another subscriber! :)
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
No, thank you! I really appreciate your kind words about my review. Thanks for subscribing as well, I look forward to seeing your comments in the future.
@DevinTobin-Rosman
@DevinTobin-Rosman 3 ай бұрын
No one wanted it but we needed it
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 3 ай бұрын
True.
@kaygee2121
@kaygee2121 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant breakdown! Andor is possibly my favorite of the whole franchise💖
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I might agree with that, obviously A New Hope and Empire are pretty fantastic as well.
@jakedunnegan
@jakedunnegan 5 ай бұрын
Andor has actually turned out to be my absolute favorite Star Wars content except for Empire Strikes Back. I've liked a lot of different stuff, like Rebels and I didn't hate Obi Wan like a lot of people did, but Andor was awesome. It did a GREAT job of showing a realistic Star Wars universe. As you state, the "world-building" was amazing. Just to contrast it with another recent big production, say, Rings of Power - where the world-building (except for the Numenor set and Moria) was atrocious. It goes to show the difference in showrunners - one who knows how to put on a production (like Gilroy) as opposed to those idiots working at Amazon studios. The plot also felt well put together and the characters reacted sensibly to all situations. Unlike Episodes 8 and 9 where either large stupid detours happened, or world breaking (suicide star ships) actions or in instance after instance, they'd find exactly what they needed, even if it was under a random location in a huge desert - to move the plot along to a wildly random location in a galaxy of 100,000 planets or whatever. Ahem. Andor reminded all those "creators" at Lucasfilm that they can make new planets, introduce new characters, races, whatever - and the fans will love it if you just TELL A GOOD STORY.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
It is difficult to top 'The Empire Strikes Back'. Plus the two are so different that it is hard to compare specific elements.
@guardsman-against-the-chaos
@guardsman-against-the-chaos 10 ай бұрын
I've never been a star wars fan but I'm completely a Andor fan.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
That's awesome to hear. It's a very grounded show that can quite easily appeal to most people.
@anxtypical
@anxtypical 4 ай бұрын
I've been patienly waiting for S2 since the minute of S1 ended.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a long gap, but oh well, at least we have something to look forward to.
@kayemcee9967
@kayemcee9967 11 ай бұрын
The brilliance of Andor S1 is that you can remove the Star Wars references to the entire season, replace it with more generic "Evil but overbloated Authoritarian Government" elements that controls everything and it would all still work. It's a story about how the seeds of a rebellion were planted and grown over time to the eventuality that leads to the downfall of said Empire.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, but I am still happy that it is set in the Star Wars universe
@SandmanJr90
@SandmanJr90 5 ай бұрын
Arcs 2 and 3 of Andor are my favorite live action star wars ever, not even close. It actually exceeds the writing quality of the animated shows (Bad Batch, Clone wars later seasons)
@marvelstarwarsgeek1511
@marvelstarwarsgeek1511 11 ай бұрын
Great Video and a fantastic breakdown . I absolutely love Andor it has now taken over from The Mandalorian as my favourite Star Wars TV media . One of the best things I really loved about Rogue One was the depiction via Cassian that the Rebels were not whiter than white and that Cassian made some very ruthless decisions in the name of the Rebellion this made such a refreshing change . One of the things I loved when watching the trailers for Andor was that how cinematic the show looked . The writing and pacing of Andor is amazing I love the slow burn it takes to develop its characters and storylines , the idea of breaking each story arc into 3 episodes was so good and paid off so well , I can remember whilst watching the first episode that wow this is a very different more grown up Star Wars bringing more adult themes into the story . I heard criticism that it was too slow but I loved its pacing . I thoroughly enjoyed the flashback scenes to Cassians childhood etc they worked so well . All the performances are amazing and if I had to choose a favourite performance I would really struggle as all the Actors gave it their all even the characters like Bix , Brasso etc who had relatively small roles were so great I would have to say it would be Stellans performance but it was a difficult choice . The cinematography was amazing from the industrial look of Ferrix to the beautiful scenery of Aldani and the sets of Narkina 5 were fantastic , and the work on ep 6 the Eye was amazing especially when the Rebels escape into the erupting eye and the Tie pilots scrambling to get into their ships with the eye erupting behind them - amazing . The other part of Andor I loved was the amazing score by Nicholas Brittell it so fitted the series and themes I especially loved the really catchy Niamos theme as well as the whole score . So all in all an amazing series which not a lot of people never really wanted but in my opinion turned out to be the best Star Wars TV show made , the effects are amazing , cinematography and sets were fantastic the performances were top class and the score was amazing an amazing show . P.S. does anyone else think that Joplin Sibtain ( Brasso ) would make a great Ben Grimm ( The Thing ) in the new FF movie .
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! I enjoy 'Rogue One' quite a bit and I do like Cassian in that film, but I feel 'Andor' adds so much more to his character and does a better job with exploring some of the moral decisions that he makes. It sort of reminds of the criticism that 'Better Call Saul' would receive sometimes. Is the show slow paced? Sure, but the smaller details of the world are so thoroughly explored and it makes those eventual payoffs x10 more satisfying. The music is superb and all three Niamos tracks are awesome. It is an amazing show for sure. Yeah, I could see him making a good Ben Grimm.
@s.patterson5698
@s.patterson5698 11 ай бұрын
Ditto ditto ditto!!!!
@joaodecarvalho7012
@joaodecarvalho7012 5 ай бұрын
The prison escape music is great. People have been trying to replicate Lucas' magic, but never really succeeded. Andor tries something new, and it's great.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
As fantastic as the OT is, 'Star Wars' really needed something new AND good. 'Andor' is definitely both of those things.
@challengeadvisory4840
@challengeadvisory4840 11 ай бұрын
This is peak Star Wars period.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Yep!
@malcolmhightower9407
@malcolmhightower9407 9 ай бұрын
This show had such an impact on me, personally. I was not expecting it.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
Same. A completely unexpected gem.
@ADavid42
@ADavid42 Жыл бұрын
Nice work! thanks for putting it together
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Жыл бұрын
No, thank you! I had a lot of fun creating this and I appreciate you taking the time to watch it.
@Valbuquerque
@Valbuquerque 5 ай бұрын
Andor is Disney finally letting an adult write SW. We all know it won't go beyond S2 and there won't be anithing similar in the near future (maybe in no future at all). But how good it was to have seen such a show. Abou Andor not being SW: lucky us it is not.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Season 1 is already fantastic on its own. Even if season 2 is terrible, it won't ruin the first. I'd love to see more like it, but I am still very happy we got it...
@CmbAdvisor
@CmbAdvisor 10 ай бұрын
Kino Loy is named Kino because his character arc is pure kino.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
I like to think that as well.
@dmfraser1444
@dmfraser1444 5 ай бұрын
The first few episodes of Andor seemed a bit slow to me. But this is common in British productions. But I stuck with it and the plot grew and grew and the end was incredibly powerful. Most impressive.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 5 ай бұрын
Happy you liked it towards the end. You might find those first few episodes are better on a re-watch. I know I loved them more with each viewing.
@coolcats4summer82
@coolcats4summer82 11 ай бұрын
That was a brilliant piece of work. I really enjoyed how you edited the clips to perfectly match your dialogue. And, by that, I mean I really appreciate the specific clips from Andor and other SW media that you chose to emphasize your points. Makes me want to go watch the Andor series for the 4th time around. It is quite literally the only enjoyable D+ SW series. The rest are laughably awful.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I do try my best with the visuals. It's a very time consuming process making sure that every clip lines up exactly with the voiceover. I always believe it's worth it though and I really appreciate that you enjoyed it. There's still a bit of a wait until Season 2 and the other shows are indeed laughably bad - you may as well give it a re-watch!
@travelsizedhispasian
@travelsizedhispasian 11 ай бұрын
I am SO glad you pointed out the soundtrack for Andor, I love the series so much but I think the music really elevated the viewing experience. "Past/Present Suite" is ny favourite alongside "Mirror", "The Morning After", and "Valley". There's so much that this show does good that I could genuinely make a 3 hour video on-but one thing I wanted to make note of was something I noticed that people have not addressed all that much. Each intro card OST foreshadowing the events of the episode, and there are distinct "instruments" assigned to a "character"; the Imperials or the Emipre has a synthetic, digital sound/instrument attached to their name. Intentions or events of the Rebellion coincide with the sounds of grounded, non-digital or synthetic instrumentation-_especially_ the rythmic beat established in Andor's theme. As an example, in the Episode 8 intro OST, Andor's theme is muffled and distorted with synthetic instrumentation with the faint strings of a cello clawing through. Andor's "voice" of rebellion is quelled and silenced by the Imperial imprisonment of Narkino 5, but a faint remnant of it remains. For Episode 9, we can hear Andor's theme, albeit mostly expressed in a complete synthetic, digital manner. However, that sound of "rebellion" can be distinctly heard through the rhythmic pulse of the beat and the drawn synths that mimic strings. Andor's plans to escape and rebel grow amid a fully Imperial facility. In Episode 10, a lone single "voice" mimicking the sound of a synth builds up to a crescendo in a harmonious unison of strings. No longer are the sounds of synths or any noise associated with the Empire; Andor is the voice that catalyzes the riot in Narkino 5. I think 2 or 3 episodes are a bit hard to translate in determining how the intro OST foreshadows the events of the episode, primarily the first three of the season-but if you apply these parameters from the music to the events that occur in the episode, I think you will be pleasantly surprised. It's genuinely amazing how much passion and attention to detail was put into this show, which is why I firmly believe Andor is both a modern Star Wars masterpiece and is one of the best things since the original SW trilogy.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Those are incredible soundtracks as well! I did notice the different theme for each opening and it sounds awesome with them all combined together. Glad you loved the show and thank you for checking out my analysis of it.
@Degarth
@Degarth 11 ай бұрын
Andor is so good I cannot get my head around the fact that it flows from the same source as the insult to intelligence that is The Book of Boba Fett and Obi One. It's like if Ferrari also made Yugo.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is staggering to think those shows share the same universe.
@nealeTH
@nealeTH 11 ай бұрын
Andor is magnificent on every level.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is indeed!
@skiena
@skiena 9 ай бұрын
I've been re-watching the series and it is solidifying its brilliance to me. One example -- Nemik talks about how he could not sleep the night before the heist. "Don't worry," Cassian tells him, "you'll sleep when the job is done."
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 9 ай бұрын
The series is very re-watchable. I always found that something different stuck out to me each time.
@bryanzaring6904
@bryanzaring6904 11 ай бұрын
Andor: A New Hope
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Andor Season 2: Return of the Jedi
@Mr-Tibbster
@Mr-Tibbster 8 ай бұрын
The Empire only really started to be incompetent in ROTJ which is considered the weakest of the OT in that respect. In Empire we see them crush the Rebels there too with few casualties on Hoth. The notion that Stormtroopers are weak only came from them dying to Ewoks and the following video games which made Stormtroopers fodder for the player to chop through.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I like 'Return of the Jedi' a lot, but that is not a flawless film and the stormtroopers being incompetent is one of the criticisms I have.
@savageaeternum6047
@savageaeternum6047 11 ай бұрын
Best Star Wars i ever watched. The birth of the rebellion, political situation in background, common every day people fighting the opression. I loved it all, something i always wanted to see in this universe, especially the character of Luten Rael which is now my favorite character of all time in Star Wats. No one bits him in my eyes, never seen more charismatic character with so much passion towards one goal, to topple an empire down from all angles especially from within.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
It is very excellent. Luthen is a superb character and Stellan Skarsgård was the perfect choice for that role.
@savageaeternum6047
@savageaeternum6047 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge Indeed, very much so.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
@@savageaeternum6047 Do you see him dying in Season 2?
@savageaeternum6047
@savageaeternum6047 11 ай бұрын
@@That0therGeorge I don't know to be honest, but he always seams he's one step in right direction. What i want to say here is Luthen is someone who already knows the game, knows the stakes and he's being playing it since day one the Empire took over and reformed the Republic into Empire. On the other hand we already know Andor' s end in Rogue One and Melchi too. No, im more concerned about his aid at his store. She seams more unstable element and he should pay special attention to her. While she might be dedicated to the cause, she is more of fanatic who enjoys killing on a side when he's not there to see. If anyone would mess up anything for him it would be her. From the first time i saw her character i was worried she would do something stupid to attract ISB. Oh and one of the scenes i liked was Luthen laughing in the back of his store when he heard Senator's driver about Aldhani heist. It was a briliant moment to show his character to us the audience.
@s.patterson5698
@s.patterson5698 11 ай бұрын
​@@savageaeternum6047I disagree with you about Luthren's assistant. She is totally level headed and she has Luthern's back to the very end. Remember, she was willing to go in Luthren's place to meet Lionel in case it was a trap. She is focused and dedicated to the cause. She is Luthren's right hand. I am curious to know her back story. And by the way, the actress who played her rocked the roll.
@maxberens
@maxberens 4 ай бұрын
You are the only KZbinr that makes the screen fill to full instead of having ugly screen things on the side of mobile I support your future endeavors
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 4 ай бұрын
I always like to make my projects the same aspect ratio as the piece of media that is the main subject. I'm happy to hear that you appreciate that sort of thing.
@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1
@bgt54rfvcde32wsxzaq1 11 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed the next season is just as great.🤞 They have to continue to fight against Disney's leadership
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
As long as Gilroy still has full creative control, then I'm sure it will be.
@richmay56
@richmay56 Ай бұрын
I really love the small detail with focus on Syril colleague in final episode after Maarva speech. Like, his expression says that he's processed the speech and all the action that came after the simmilar way Luthen did
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge Ай бұрын
Are you referring to Linus? If so then yeah he's great.
@npierce14
@npierce14 11 ай бұрын
I was not excited at all for andor I almost didn’t watch it but man that show was amazing it has in my opinion the top 3 SW speeches
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Glad you decided to check out and loved the show as well!
@philjerkins1593
@philjerkins1593 11 ай бұрын
Andor shows us what Star Wars can be, if a good budget, top talent (both in front of and behind the camera), and GENUINE CARE are devoted to the project. Luke was who we all wanted to be as kids. Andor is what we’ve all grown up to be.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
I think SW can still be good on a low budget if it is kept grounded, but other than that I agree.
@chilly22
@chilly22 11 ай бұрын
the best star wars since the original series
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@lexonfors
@lexonfors 10 ай бұрын
Definitely subscribing to you with this one, out of all the andor reviews or explanations I've watched simply because I enjoyed the show you've mentioned so much more of the little details that some of which I hadn't even noticed myself. Off the top of my head I don't think I can name any other CCs that actually pointed out deeper details and the little things such as Luthen's long reaction to Marva's speech. Thank you for the lovely Andor review
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 10 ай бұрын
This was an incredibly nice comment to read, thank you for that. & thank you for subscribing, I look forward to seeing you about in the future.
@troubleondemand7703
@troubleondemand7703 11 ай бұрын
Honestly? This is the best Star Wars since ESB. Nothing else even comes close.
@That0therGeorge
@That0therGeorge 11 ай бұрын
Very much agreed.
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