Deadpool and Wolverine has problems (SPOILERS)

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[@JustinStarrPhotography]

One thing that really stood out to me: Wolverine and Deadpool have ACTUAL masks made of the same material as their outfits. I can’t remember when the last time we saw that in the MCU was, because everyone now has “nanotech” helmets/masks that just materialize on their faces. It was so nice to see them out their masks on.

[@b_a_t_m_a_n_]

I wonder how wolverine's mask works. He pulled it up from his hood so I thought it was fabric like wade's, but later he removed it like a helmet and it remained a helmet.

[@Georg3e]

​@@b_a_t_m_a_n_I also found that odd

[@retrosimon9843]

@@b_a_t_m_a_n_ It broke off the suit when he was holding hands with Deadpool in the basement at the end.

[@quoththeraven4341]

I'd been complaining to my partner about this for at least the last few years. That was one of our biggest take aways from the movie after we saw it together.

[@B1gBoyPants]

@@b_a_t_m_a_n_ yeah that was a little silly. But I just rolled with it. I didn’t mind because the actual physics on the masks rarely makes sense in the comics anyways. They’ll go from being fabric that can be crumpled up, to being hard like a helmet. I’m just glad he had his actual mask.

[@PeriVinkle]

The way Vanessa's character is treated really bothers me. Like why did she and Deadpool have to be on the outs again? It's just rehashing what happened in the first movie again. And she doesn't get any focus at all other than being a motivation and storyline crutch. In my ideal Deadpool universe she would've gotten powers in the first movie and actually had some scenes in the second one. If they wanted relation ship issues they should've set it up and not have it occur off screen and in flashbacks...

[@Gannicus006]

Nah i think marvel already has enough of all those girl power characters or arc most of it came flat.her role as a motivation for deadpool is just perfect and thats all she needed to be coz this movie is about deadpool and wolverine.

[@MegaKittyCyute]

I would love that too!! I always wanted her to have powers ever since the first movie. I mean she was supposed to get powers in the first movie but it was cut for time. Like she was even in the same tube that Wade was in that activated his mutate abilities.

[@bifflechips-t5r]

Good on Morena Baccarin and/or her agent getting her 4th billed in the opening credits.

[@PeriVinkle]

Seriously and she was barely in it lol Like replace her with a cut out of Inara from Firefly as a gag and I don't think it'd change a thing 😅 I'm not suggesting make it the Vanessa show (it's Deadpool and Wolverine after all) but if she is going to be the emotional motivator for Wade AGAIN, then they've gotta do something with her character

[@NELLYB]

I thought their relationship was actually really mature. They weren't bickering or arguing, and they were even kind of jovial in there flirting. Vanessa knew wade was going through it and didn't want to put anymore stress on him or her. She let him make his own decisions, and in the end, love prevailed. She even got her own boyfriend, that is a better example of a healthy adult relationship than most things seen on TV today

[@Robin0928]

The funniest thing about the Deadpool movies is that they will introduce a very fun supporting cast and then immediately throw them out for the next movie.

[@ManiacMayhem7256]

Studio mandate moment 😢

[@999999SkyGuy]

Deadpool 1+2 had consistend and re-appearing characters. Go away Marvel Cinematic universe and Kevin Feige. This franchise is almost as annoying as Disney Star Wars & Kathleen Kennedys agenda. Stop Get some advice from actual fans...

[@Robin0928]

@@999999SkyGuy Except Colossus and Negasonic had way reduced roles in DP2 and Cable/Domino aren't even in D&W. It's not a huge problem, just a funny thing the Deadpool movies have done where they'll swap out the primary side characters each movie

[@Don.M.]

I wanted more Cable and Domino

[@bohemiankyle7206]

Honestly I wish they could have replaced the nicepool and Deadpool corp scenes with more scenes with Vanessa and Wade cause that ending felt super unearned. How tf did she know Wade even saved the world? I didn’t feel anything cause we didn’t see how her feelings progressed or change through the film. She’s with someone else in the beginning and then flips at the end for seemingly no reason???

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

@@bohemiankyle7206 Honestly, her breaking up with Wade in the first place was already unearned.

[@Ebuggs12]

It’s implied by Wade using air quotes when talking about his “Talents” and then saying that Vanessa is tired of his shtick which is probably just him only doing mercenary work, killing randos or low level criminals, or nothing at all and he wanted to be something that made her proud and somebody that “matters” so it seems like she was just trying to pushing him to better himself

[@UbinTimor]

@@Ebuggs12 Yea, but if you're trying to push someone to be better for your relationship you don't do that by leaving them and being distant with them. To me, at least, it felt like the movie was trying to imply that Wade felt like he needed to be better for Vanessa, that because he was so hyper fixated on being someone better he ignored their relationship- by that I mean nothing else seemed to matter to Wade besides finding what really made him feel like he mattered and as a result Vanessa felt like she didn't matter to him. I don't know, it's very hard to believe that Vanessa would leave Wade the way it seems like the movie wants the viewers to believe, that she left him because of his obsession with finding a meaning in his life so that she could be proud of him. She was EXTREAMLY supportive in the first Deadpool movie (it's one of the reasons why I like the first one more than the other 2), it just feels out of character for her to up and leave instead of buckling down and helping Wade through his issues- Vanessa was more than willing to stick by Wade when he thought he was going to die and was only upset with him because he left her out of fear that he was going to be a burden. It just doesn't feel right that she gives up on their relationship, especially when Wade literally travels back in time and saves her from dying, like I don't know, that feels like a real dick move to just abandon someone after they saved your life. And if they did talk it out it was through exposition- we don't really see them through the whole process to get both sides as to why the relationship wasn't going to work, all we know is Wade is still in love with Vanessa and Vanessa couldn't take being in a relationship with Wade anymore because of obsession with finding a purpose, it's all just kind of hand waved away.

[@Ebuggs12]

@@UbinTimor idk if it’s the obsession of finding purpose but more of “he has these amazing powers and gifts and he uses them for such small things or is just a mercenary that kills people when he could be saving people like the x-men in his universe but he blew that by killing the villains in DP 1 and 2 so he tries to be better and join the avengers but not for the right reasons which was for selfish reasons and not selfless reasons also you don’t have to stay with someone if they save your life 😭 she’s moving up in her job and he’s at the same place he was in the first dp movie and maybe even regressing due to him having more potential but still having the same profession from before his powers

[@UbinTimor]

@@Ebuggs12 I'm not saying she HAS to be with him because he saved her life, I'm saying that he loved her so much that he bent the fabric of space and time to prevent her from dying because of how much he loved her- and she knows that he did it, that HAS to mean something to her, but she leaves him anyway. I don't think anyone would question their relationship if their partner was willing to do something like that, I know I wouldn't, so breaking things off just because you feel that same someone is holding themselves back instead of working with them to figure things out seems pretty dickish to me especially if you're just going to get back together with that person later on anyway. This is the same woman who forgave him for running away because he didn't want her to watch him die, she thought he was dead that whole time but was willing to start again and she didn't even care that he was all fucked up from the experiments, but she can't work with Wade on his issues when she has been very supportive in the past? like I said before, it doesn't feel like that's Vanessa, that's not something DP 1 Vanessa would do, and because she's had so little development- basically she's been nothing but a plot device for the last 2 movies, it's hard to agree that leaving Wade was a good call especially when it seems like they get back together anyway only to probably break up again or for her to hardly be in the next movie.

[@icedcapplord710]

I love how they basically worked in the fact Disney is trying as hard as possible to dissociate from Marvel film properties not produced in house by them, and actually made that a plot point in the story with the Void basically being the trash bin for all the non-MCU fluff, except they really hold Deadpool and Jackman Logan in unusually high regard because everyone does irl lol They took what could've been really cheap fanservice or even an attempt to mock all the discarded Marvel films of the mid-2000's and actually turned it into a fitting eulogy for the place they hold in Marvel's history. It was actually done way better than I expected

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

wish the next movie has more of the side characters I liked from Deadpool 2 then

[@icedcapplord710]

​@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 Honestly I think by the time a Deadpool 4 happens we'll already be at the point where the X-Men are rebooted completely. It could actually be interesting seeing Wade try to connect with new versions of the mutants he recognizes from his world but he has to start again in terms of forming meaningful relationships

[@et4003]

I don’t think either the tva or Disney hold Deadpool in high regard, he’s been proven to be profitable so they tolerate him (paradox doesn’t like him and doesn’t know why the tva cares so much about him, while Disney hates that he makes jokes at their expense)

[@buttmuddbrooks]

These wannabe be academy awards film critics need to take themselves less seriously. The movie was awesome. So meta. So poetic. Obviously way over the heads of these turds.

[@mrhoapro1]

Yeah the movie is pretty meta. The moment wolverine gone, x men world lost all value and was supposed to be destroy. Except deadpool because he's still profitable.

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

Might be a hot take, but I feel like the movie could have flowed better if they didn't have to cram in the Deadpool Corp. They just add to the bloat and doesn't really add much to the movie except for a cameo and a fight, which could have been better served by something else honestly. Nicepool especially didn't need to exist, he adds literally nothing.

[@warrust]

there is a lot of "I want to put that in there because it's cool and i got the opportunity to do so " in this film compare to the previous ones

[@kyshim1247]

Doesn't seem like a hot take, i think everyone realizes this movie isn't necessarily good, but very very fun

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

@@warrust yeah, like some of them work, some of them are really good, and some of them are like the Deadpool Corp.

[@crimsoneclipse0618]

@@kyshim1247 I mean, overall yeah, but me not liking the deadpool corp scene could be hot take since I see a lot of people that like it.

[@poopooman-q7r]

@@kyshim1247 agreed it's not a masterpiece by any means but its worth watching because its hilarious

[@nickcrouch1258]

'Anchor Being' is a meta commentary. ie. The Xmen without Wolverine slowly dies off. Avengers without Iron Man is failing. That whole scene at the TVA is a very meta commentary on Deadpool moving from the Fox universe which is dying to the Marvel universe, where Deadpool thinks he will save it.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Bc he is Marvel Jesus. Making a movie that will gross more than the Passion of the Christ.

[@mattejohnson1980]

And that's all it is, because it makes zero sense in universe. Does every timeline/universe/whatever it is in this movie end after one lifetime? Is there a new anchor being born when one dies? If so, why didn't that happen this time?

[@DeRockMedia]

@@mattejohnson1980 it does get a bit confusing, like any anchor being will eventually die, so the universe thrives until that being is born an dies? But its supposed to be a meta joke about Logan so i try not to dive deep too hard with its logic.

[@mainescapade]

​@DeRockMedia yea but that sucks for the mcu because they're a part of the joke now. If nothing makes sense, there are no stakes. Deadpool becomes a lot less interesting by comparison.

[@SirGrimLockSmithVIII]

One thing that bothered me as well was how much the film kept trying to set up Deadpool to be some misfit underdog that failed to make it into the X Men, when half the plot of the first two films is literally Colossus desperately trying to get Wade to join the X Men because he thought he was qualified. It was Deadpool's own choice not to fully join because he felt like his schtick didn't vibe with the school and because he thought that being that brand of superhero was lame. So why is the story pretending that wasn't the case? It's just inconsistent characterization to force in a cookie cutter arc of the week for Deadpool.

[@VenusMari-jx9sm]

This movie really need to be talk bout more, the hype for wolverine was cool n all but things not adding up.😂

[@JarodHaws]

I always thought it was theybwere trying ti get him to clean himself up to join the xmen but he didn't care enough to clean up

[@dmaikibujin]

In 2 he was a probationary member until he straight up murdered someone and got kicked off the team...

[@avalonbluee]

I think it works, he changed his mind after 2 and equally they didn't want him after 2 because he literally killed someone on the job when he was a trainee member

[@drewfromyay882]

He failed to make the Avengers, not the X-Men.

[@sloanekuria3249]

Jennifer Garner's throw away line had me asphyxiating.... she didn't have much but she absolutely bodied that line about "It's fine" that daredevil couldn't be there - Daredevil played by Ben Affleck, her ex-husband. It was three chef's kisses on a waffle.

[@lilymarinovic1644]

Along with the one about Wolverine having "let himself go since the (Hugh Jackman's) divorce". Lucky I didn't have a drink with me in the theatre, I would have spit it out so hard.

[@CuriosityKilledThisCat]

That was my favorite line in the film!

[@merder1414]

Jennifer Garner was the worst part of the movie.

[@sloanekuria3249]

@@merder1414 sorry, no offense Ben

[@stephanusghibellino]

Who cares about that TMZ bs

[@hashiaarana617]

I think the main reason why they only did one "other actor as Wolverine" cameo is that it was intended to be a joke/surprise, like "wow the joke is that it's another actor playing Wolverine instead of Hugh Jackman" not like "here's a montage where we are trying to put your fancasts into work". And like many jokes you can't do it too many times, like having a "Radclifferine" joke right after Cavillrine would feel repetitive.

[@speedyturtleproductions7537]

could've made a Harry Potter joke

[@NoMaloneUnturned2]

It also would have been very expensive to get all those actors to show up as a cameo. The only reason Cavill decided to be in the movie is cause Ryan and marvel studios promised they would find a way to have Cavill be involved with the MCU going forward.

[@91MoonKnight]

It was also to make fun of the way DC treated Henry Cavill poorly

[@jalapenoofjustice4682]

the Happy scene is in 2018 before Infinity War, so the Avengers at this point are Iron Man, War Machine and Vision

[@Dave175]

Oh someone said this already before me, lol

[@johnwerner69]

Then a special forces guy seems pretty useful

[@putridfetus666]

also it made sense why he was a cameo, because he was apart of Ben Affleck’s Daredevil in the fox movies :’)

[@JohnDoe-gt3jr]

Doesn't make sense though, bc if it was set in 2018 then why would Peter be blocked out by the Iron Man helmet in the framed picture? Like he's been forgotten like in No Way Home. You can check again if you like.

[@santaclaus1365]

@@JohnDoe-gt3jr they legally had to do that because if they showed Tom Holland at all, that would count as an appearance and he'd need his contract renewed again to appear in later films.

[@asiabrew81]

What I recall learning about Snipes’ onset antics on Blade Trinity was that he was really pissed that the studio was ending his franchise and pivoting to a spin off with these two young white actors ( Biel and Reynolds!). That sounds petty af, but also remember Blade was the only successful black superhero led film at the time and he REEEEEEEEALLY worked hard to make that a thing. I think before Blade he had even tried to get Black Panther made. So for his franchise to end and his final movie is written as stealth pilot for yet another superhero group of white lead actors.... insert Michael Jordan “and I took that personally” meme here. i’ve just now recalled all that from watching this video. I had forgotten about Blade Trinity (as should most of us), but the lead up to that phonecall to Snipes must’ve been interesting giving Reynolds’ previous experience. I think giving Snipes that line w/ the bazooka was just perfect because he kinda does own that role. He even brought the character back for a quick & HILARIOUS cameo at the end of the 1st season of What We Do In The Shadows. I‘d like to think he was more than willing to play character again on the big screen.

[@RickyfromAZ]

Indeed. The idea was that they were trying to erase Blade like they did Black Panther (even excluding Tchalla from X-Men 97) despite the success of the film - that was his frustration. This was during an era of cinema where producers would refuse to let the audience know that it was Marvel or DC related material due to the failure of the two industries at the time by hiding the logo 3-5 minutes into the intro credits... action films standing on their own name while subtly hiding the Marvel logo to ensure viewers are not put off. In Wesley Snipes' interviews he always made mention that they were "bringing in the new heroes" to replace what he helped make in an effort to downplay his presence with "excessive" comedy.

[@nickmorris521]

My favorite reaction from Wolverine was when Deadpool got Nicepool killed. "He died from MURDER"

[@DeRockMedia]

love how hes doing CPR on him, regardless of no head "I dont think hes going to make it"

[@Sjono]

“Channing Tatum is too buff to be Gambit.” Like Hugh Jackman & Henry Cavill are too tall to be Wolverine?

[@WillTheGreatest]

Well yes!

[@kadegetslaid634]

Yes exactly, hes a good wolverine but like, in an x men team he should be shorter than most of the team

[@topgamer101]

@@kadegetslaid634 That's what the fucking short Logan joke was for earlier in the movie. Actors can't magically alter their physical make up in that manner, chill the eff out and understand reality can't bend over backwards to please a fantasy in your head. And I swear to god if you suggest they just cg it, you are literally what is slowly killing genuinely good movies with good sets, actually setting up real fight scenes, and good prop work.

[@MikeWasowskiLover]

@@topgamer101Jesus Christ chill

[@Daddyhack2174]

Bro his head was way to fat

[@chasrobinson4493]

The Happy Hogan interview felt like a Meta shot at it being Jon Favreau. Him being the one who started all this being the one to reject Deadpool as an Avenger felt like a small layer in the scene.

[@UncleBlademan]

If you remember in the opening, Deadpool prunes one of the TVA agents with his own staff. I think they probably cut a running gag between Deadpool and that one TVA agent (that would have been Rob), that would have been continued in the caravan and ended with him being eaten by Alioth

[@xavmanisdabestest]

That was my thought too was expecting a taxi driver kind of relationship he had in the first 2 movies

[@DeRockMedia]

i would love to see or hear what ideas would of been behind that, Reynolds posted Robs pics on set and did an apology to him for cutting his scenes.

[@jd9557]

Tbh as soon as I saw Lady Deadpool was going to be in the movie there wasn’t a world where she wasn’t played by Blake Lively

[@johnmacias488]

Anchor being is a meta joke. Hugh jackman was literally the anchor being of the Fox universe. I kinda wish they would have followed the tva motives from Loki. But it made a lot of sense in a Deadpool movie

[@dahliaherrod4301]

I was today years old when I got that McGuffin joke

[@retrogradedly]

that first act had so much momentum and was really incredible in it’s pacing and humor that the problems are more noticeable in the latter half. my main issue was the overabundance of exposition and relying on that as a storytelling device rather than visually showing and portraying those story beats in a more natural manner.

[@retrogradedly]

40:04 also i think the idea of an anchor being was more just meant to be a meta commentary on the state of these franchises; without wolverine (hugh jackman) playing a part in the fox universe, it falls apart without him since he is the predominant selling point. if they carry the concept into the mcu at large i feel like it will get confusing and a bit unnecessary honestly 😭

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

@@retrogradedlyagreed

[@zserbs2326]

@@retrogradedlythe MCU is also regarded as the sacred timeline that is looked after by the TVA ensuring it persists. It seems like the timeline itself ad it’s consistency is of importance as opposed to one person. I think it’s fun meta commentary to lean into the return of Jackman by calling him the fox-men anchor and not worth much else.

[@retrogradedly]

@@zserbs2326 yeah I would assume so as well but I think an interview with feige noted the importance of the concept so it might be a more prevalent thing going forward. also with mcu being on the sacred timeline, i was a bit confused as to how deadpool got there in the first place to meet with happy? like he didn’t have the ability to travel the multiverse at that time and there isn’t a parallel equivalent to the avengers in his universe so that confused me lmao

[@benzos5704]

@@retrogradedlyeh… you give them too much credit. I think anchor being was just a poor excuse to put more significance than there really is to a character and a poor excuse to start the story. They’re saying that there’s ONE life in the span of a WHOLE universe that holds that universe in the balance? That’s BS.

[@JoshFrisch]

"We don't know that guy." is absolutely one of my favorite lines from the scene. Quick, witty, perfectly delivered.

[@averyfountain5493]

mid

[@rampagingelephant7353]

I was kinda disappointed that they didn't find a way to have the big, CGI Colossus and the Wolverine in the blue and yellow suit do the fastball special. They definitely could've had Colossus and Deadpool's other friends help fight the Deadpool Corps and had Wolverine and Colossus do the fastball special. It's not a big missed opportunity, but I hope they do it eventually in Secret Wars or the MCU's X-Men.

[@haveidonethisbefore]

oh you'd love Nando's Deadpool 3 pitch

[@rampagingelephant7353]

@@haveidonethisbefore I do

[@JlYlElNlJ]

Wow good point, especially since they had Peter come and help😂

[@PeriVinkle]

I was surprised Colossal, negasonic, yukio didn't show up for the Deadpool gang fight but I understand they wanted to focus on just wolverine and Deadpool. I do think they could've replaced the peter scene and had that trio come through to distract all the Deadpools after the first main fight instead but then you'd lose that peter joke 🤷

[@JlYlElNlJ]

@@PeriVinkle lol all those deadpools would kill x force tbh

[@kylejoe8393]

I love how EVERY single time Deadpool pulled out baby knife he said "baby knife" 😂

[@Starpotion]

And every time Wolverine gets stabbed by it he screams louder than when he gets stabbed by the katanas 😂

[@IAmMightyMike]

I just can't help but feel like Wolverine's backstory was too weak. So.. he just didn't show up, and they.. all died? I don't know what difference he might have made compared to some of the Omega's in the Mansion but I was reallllyyy hoping for the Old Man Logan story where he happened to kill his X-Men while under control, or manipulated by Mysterio. It just didn't seem like THIS should be the worst Wolverine. Also, it was a bit of a mess following the Deadpool Corp fight and watching the Void heroes fighting was sick until it was an open shot of everyone fighting. It looked like they were playing lol

[@sisterseeth]

That's what I said. The cameo fight was such a deflation. Speaking of cameos...the most cringe moment for me, was the Elektra, X22, Gambit, Blade intro. They did the EXACT same thing Dr Strange & TMOM council scene did. Scowling faces, overly dramatic music, everyone looks like they're about to attack the main characters...and then it's like... "Oh hey man, whassup? Oh, naw naw, we're not made at YOU per se..." I was like WHAT!? Maybe they were clowning on exactly that Dr Strange scene, idk.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

Feel like it’s a mega commentary on how when Hugh Jackman left, the X-Men movies fell apart when Dark Phoenix & New Mutants flopped.

[@saucevc8353]

Except as Cassandra Nova realizes later, that’s NOT why he’s the worst Wolverine. It’s because after the X-men were attacked, he went on a rampage and started killing humans both guilty and innocent, turning the general population against the X-men and THAT led to their deaths.

[@CynUnion-ji9uj]

Deadpool and Wolverine is more focused on being a Meta Narrative about the 20 years of Fox Marvel movies than it is on being a good story and that.... is fine. I wouldn't recommend this movie to someone who doesn't watch hero movies or who thought the fox movies were bad from the jump, but(much like No Way Home) it is a fun time about and a fun cap to these specific versions of these characters. I have a deep love for the Fox universe just like I do with Rami's spider-movies. Its not Infinity War or Endgame and its not trying to be. Its Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman having the fucking time of their life reminiscing on this franchise that has been so entwined to their career. Also this movie had like... 5 writers which probably explains why its messy.

[@libbydaniels8943]

I agree. Definitely more focused on action and fun. Less plot more cameo. I don't feel that its something I'll rewatch anytime soon, but I don't think it was that bad for what it was trying to be.

[@joesimpson4522]

While the script definitely has problems, I think that lazy filmmaking is the biggest thing holding the movie back. There's so much potential for comedy in the filmmaking itself (Edgar Wright's style is a cliched but good reference point for what I mean), yet it's shot and edited in an extremely workmanlike fashion.

[@EdibleFriend05]

Deadpool literally says "the Cavill-ree has arrived" and that they'd treat him better "than those people down the street" and he pulled out the shotgun arms from Mission Impossible, how much more obvious did the cameo need to be 💀💀

[@RBGolbat]

Should have called them the “distinguished competition”

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

by 'those people down the street' did he mean DC?

[@drlca6601]

He's says "the Cavilrine."

[@turbochargedfilms]

​@@drlca6601no he doesn't, though I understand the audio in the telesyncs are probably not great

[@GenusMusic]

​@@turbochargedfilms nah I definitely heard the "Cavillrine" as well

[@dbrickell89]

The first two Deadpool movies were comedies that also delivered on plot ant theming masterfully. That's what I expected and wanted from this movie. Instead I got some admittedly good humor with a plot that I couldn't care about if you paid me. I can't give it a pass when the first two movies nailed it.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

That’s fair. But how could you make a normal Deadpool 3, when Bob Igger tried to kill Deadpool 2 on release?

[@adamm6290]

The “there’s only one Blade” scene was intended to be a joke I think, Deadpool kinda gave the camera a Jim Halpert stare after he said it

[@MegaDudeman21]

that was very obviously the point. idk how anyone could have missed that

[@MarcosMint1997]

Yeah it is since marvel said they are rebooting blade

[@no_nameyouknow]

@@MarcosMint1997 Well, the rumor is that the reboot is in the shitter now. Which was what the joke was, "there is only ever going to be one Blade", implying that the actor who was supposed to be the new Blade has backed out, which he has.

[@bennett4789]

my biggest issue with the movie was vanessa dumping wade, which felt like a pointless character assassination of her. its not like he needed extra motivation to want to save his universe. they couldve kept much of the story the same but it wouldve made more sense and had higher stakes if they were still together. even couldve kept the cassandra nova vision the same. just felt like an odd contrived choice to make deadpool sad

[@jthomas6080]

I thought it was kind of implied Deadpool pushed Vanessa to leave him because he felt like he didn't deserve her.

[@bennett4789]

@@jthomas6080 which still feels like it comes out of nowhere based on the previous two films which sold them as one of the most stable couples in marvel movies

[@eywrong]

I feel like the movie should have specifically made Vanessa leaving him his motivation, specifically because he said that he didn't see his "group of friends" in a long time.

[@JOVONO]

I feel like they completely wasted this cool actress I figured she would be a mutate/mutant like she is in the comics and be an actual character after her being stuck in that chamber in Deadpool 1

[@4YrStasis]

​@@bennett4789So it's the opposite in comics?

[@jayvansickle7607]

I never considered Gambit to be a "silly" character.... Professor X said it best, "How often must the scoundrel prove himself a hero, before he believes it himself."

[@ghostchick5275]

He isn't. Nando just doesn't know anything about him (respectfully). I knew that when he fancast Jacob Elordi as him and said something along the lines of, "I don't think Gambit is supposed to be super good-looking." Like, huh?

[@zombielizard218]

This movie made me really agree that movie theaters need ushers again. I saw a night showing, nothing too crazy (8-10), and one guy literally fell asleep and was snoring through the entire third act I mean come on

[@CynthiaMcG]

This is what you get when you install bars in movie theaters.

[@mangotheif]

Here’s a few big changes I would have made: 1: the TVA should have shown up one more time even if it was just to slow them down. It’s weird they just give up trying to stop wade. 2: they had those cool vehicles and used the for nothing… no mad max inspired scene in the mad max rip off? 3: would have liked to see a climax with colossus and Negasonic being there, and Deadpool’s cab driver. Plus a scene with all of them trying to kill nova one more time before she went inside the TVA room 4: would have been nice to see Wolverine slice people up with his claws.. why didn’t that happen in this movie? He got to head stab people and all that in Logan

[@Lackofstyle]

The TVA didn't give up trying to stop Wade. They sent him to the void where they expected him to get killed by Nova.

[@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom]

No. 2 likely didn't happen due to budget. Honestly, TVA should just be the main villains.

[@peterfrank3365]

I'm currently doing a re-write myself. The big change I'm making is removing Nova and her group entirely, and have the TVA as the villains. I feel like she only distracts from the film's meta commentary.

[@mrhoapro1]

2. It's not easy to rip off mad max. Watching Fury road BTS. It's a miracle this movie come together as well as it did

[@Angry9guy]

​@peterfrank3365 dang everyone hates this movie

[@EnordAreven]

Anchor beings feels very... Ok, so, in the endless expanse of one universe, there's one person, and the whole universe slowly collapses without them??? Feels like a meta joke rather than something I'd ever recommend seriously.

[@mathewsimoes2962]

I feel like because this is in the MCU and it’s all connected to a larger multiverse story, it’s hard not to take it seriously. But then it could never be brought up again. I think in a vacuum anchor beings are a great joke. I wish this film wasn’t as connected to the MCU, and that it could fuck around with continuity like the original deadpool movies did with the X-Men films. “Where do the X-Men films fit into the Deadpool world?” Who cares. It never mattered.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

It is a meta joke. 😂

[@KingArthur39]

​@@mathewsimoes2962Plot leaks for Kang Dynasty revealed it was going to be a major aspect in that movie. I really doubt that they won't bring that up again

[@chandru4584]

Marvel can't commit to anything concrete about the multiverse and the TVA, that's why those points don't make sense!!

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Which is why it works as a meta joke!😂

[@pnut3844able]

​@@jmanakajosh9354 no. Incoherence isn't funny. A meta joke would point out something that made sense, like the irony of something. It has to make sense to have a meta joke about it

[@the_amazing_crappo]

Deadpool looks right into the camera when Blade goes on about there only being one Blade in a "do you want to tell him or should I?" kind of way.

[@stevenjones4943]

Yup! I think Marvel is pulling the plug on that film. Which they should at this point

[@daniellamb9266]

I am on the fence about that look lol. On one hand I definitely was like "wait isnt there another Blade movie being made with a new actor??" On the other hand that movie has had... problems... and HASNT been able to get off the ground. Wesley shows up.... says He's the one and only... just as his contract still states in real life. Was Deadpool looking at Mahershala Ali? Like... "How you like that bro" lmao

[@Renoistic]

It's 100% meant to be a "oh, he doesn't know..." look which is just another one of many jokes that will probably age like milk.

[@tentavision13]

I thought it was more of him going "that's right audience, that Blade movie is never happening "

[@dj_daem0n]

There is a comic where Johnny Storm is overpowered by Pyro. Almost exactly like in the movie actually. Pyro controls fire. He can't make it, but he can control it. Even cosmic fire.

[@carsbykris]

You're absolutely right - Laura doesn't say the second half of the line in the scene.

[@scottbell1414]

I noticed that, too

[@SnobbyBird_]

I thought I was going crazy bro

[@tehdood]

I noticed it and couldn't decide if it was a mistake or if it's a hint that Nova messed with his memory. Either way, it was jarring.

[@LilSauceBoss]

I was thinking its because logans self esteem was so low, once he heard the first half, he just blocked out the rest of what she was going to say?

[@HNcomics]

Yeah it really fucked with me too

[@2001yetti]

In the Happy Hogan scene, they show the date as being like March 2018 or 19 which I think is the day that Disney officially bought Fox, and they joke about how the “boss” (referring to Tony Stark) doesn’t do this anymore (cameos? No, interviews) which means this takes place before Infinity War so the Avengers are at more or less their typical status quo (minus a few on the run from the govt) and it’s implied that this is one of his stops during his multiversal/time travel trip with Cables device from the end of Deadpool 2.

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

I thought boss was meant to be Kevin lol

[@eywrong]

​@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369why?

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

That was not clear at all. It makes sense when you lay it out that way. But that scene was completely flat to me and the people I know (who like the MCU way more than me).

[@2001yetti]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I got on first and only viewing 🤷🏻‍♂️ once I saw the date of 2018/19 (again can’t remember which) and them referring to the boss not doing cameos in a room with a bunch of Iron Man memorabilia and Happy Hogan sitting behind the desk I got the gist of where we were MCU timeline wise. Then when he first talks to Paradox they mention this incident as being among the many “crimes against his timeline” he committed with Cables time travel device

[@eywrong]

@@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369 why would you think that

[@Dave175]

The Happy scene was in 2018, pre-Infinity War, back when the “official” Avengers were basically just Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, and kinda Spider-Man

[@ssssnnnnzzzz]

I don't get how deadpool is in the regular mcu there

[@darthwatson8274]

At the end of Deadpool 2, they showed him using Cable’s teleporter to travel through time/ different universes. That’s probably when he found the MCU.

[@thebishna]

I would have liked if by the end it didn't feel like we were sorta back where we started at the end of Deadpool 2. But also, the Channing Tatum Gambit stuff was the loudest I have laughed at a movie in a long time.

[@eywrong]

I know! What was the point of this movie! I thought the entire point was to merge the x men and the MCU universe but we just went back to square one!

[@rmsgrey]

@@eywrong Pretty much every Marvel movie since the Fox merger was announced has been greeted by fan speculation that this one will bring the XMen into the MCU. I think at some point we just have to accept that, while Disney are happy to give us a little tease here and there - the Bohner in Wandavision; Patrick Stewart's Xavier in Multiverse of Madness; the mid-credits in The Marvels... They're happy to tease, but they're not ready to go full X rated just yet, even if it leaves the fans with bluer balls than Kelsey Grammer...

[@eywrong]

@@rmsgrey I feel like the movie about one of the most popular "Mutant" would have been a great opportunity to do so. Especially since this was a sendoff to the fox movies.

[@rmsgrey]

@@eywrong I'd have thought that it being a sendoff is exactly the reason to not have it also be the final reveal of the MCU version of the X-Men.

[@ShockwaveFPSStudios]

@@rmsgreythe movie was a send off to the Fox Marvel Movies, as well as the Blade Trilogy. So it wasn’t supposed to be made just so the X-Men could be brought on into the MCU.

[@Kakaraux]

Just now noticing the bit ab being born in the void is because his movie got pruned

[@OG_Agrivar]

You are correct about that line from the trailer not being in the actual scene.

[@rodrigojorquera1014]

Laura's line was in the movie. They just cut it in the scene but later when Logan remembers it we hear the full quote. It was just to add suspense to Wolverine coming back to help

[@randomt800kiddo2]

@@rodrigojorquera1014 they shouldn't have included the full thing in the trailer if that's what they were going for, cause it ended up causing a lot of unnecessary confusion lmao

[@ShowMeDemBoobies]

​@randomt800kiddo2 it only confused dim people

[@julianbaquero7615]

I thought I was crazy

[@Artersa]

@@rodrigojorquera1014Yes, but not in the scene at the campfire.

[@AnthonyONeill-h6u]

If anyone remembers in the opening fight Deadpool used a pruning stick to prune a tva agent that’s prolly the agent that was captured by Sandy’s minions and was supposed to be shown getting eaten by alioth but that probably got cut

[@Agrassyhandle]

It's slightly messy and fast but MAN this movie is so fun I love it

[@GenjiCatGames]

Omg thankyou! More people need to be able to have fucking fun without getting their little critic goggles on its getting so boring every film has problems but people need to get the stick out of their assholes its a fucking comic movie ffs since when were comics ever perfect 😂😂

[@rub33dota]

@@GenjiCatGames well fun isnt the problem. It is a fun movie but people talking about how it can be contender for best superhero movie, I disagree.

[@Gannicus006]

@@rub33dota defenitely better than most of the super hero movies in the past years.

[@crispycharcoal9640]

@@Gannicus006that’s the problem, marvel have fed u 💩 for the past couple years and now you’ll celebrate anything mediocre

[@Gannicus006]

@@crispycharcoal9640 that may be true but i dont go to superhero movies looking for oscar worthy acting or story or be lectured by the big MESSAGE about society issues and crap like that i go see it to be entertained and have some fun and bit of nostalgia and this atleast hit the spot so i give credit where credit is due.

[@LiableFilm]

SPOILERS The Gambit costume wasn't my favorite because of the hair, I like Gambit with longer hair

[@robsnow2099]

Yea the hair looked odd, but I think it was a wig. Tatum almost always has a buzz cut.

[@eywrong]

You don't have to put spoilers if the review itself has spoilers.

[@LiableFilm]

@@eywrong I'm just being safe

[@joshuavis2736]

@@LiableFilmyea I agree. It’s better to be safe than sorry. I’d rather give a spoiler warning just in case compared to just spoiling something

[@vanessagonzalez7862]

She DEFINITELY didn’t say “until you were” when she spoke to him. Drove me crazy trying to remember until I watched it a second time to confirm it

[@quinnscarbrough5474]

The best combination of line deliveries for me is Paradox's monologue about Logan and Wade's sacrifice followed by Wade's "He has risen babygirl" and Paradox's furious "F#^K!" going to Iris. That series of events is just so perfect. Also the scene of Logan yelling at Wade reminded me so much of the scene is Prisoners where Hugh is screaming at Jake Gyllenhaal, such a fantastic performance. Oh and I can't forget, Cavill as Wolverine looked fantastic and I hope that he'll be the MCU Logan

[@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770]

Honestly, it kind of makes sense that being an Avenger is like a job, considering that Tony Stark would have been in charge of the Avengers at that time. It makes sense that the former CEO would want to structure the team like a corporation.

[@michaellombardi1620]

Laura did make it back at the end, they asked the TVA if they can help any of their friends stuck in the void. at the end when Logan is at Deadpools party, she's next to wolverine

[@AutumnLeavey]

it feels like this movie just exists to connect all the scenes they had cameos and jokes for. The jokes are funny but it feels so chopped up and disconnected. it feels like there was a better idea behind this. and idk i am kinda over the multiverse stories.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

No. What’s chopped up is Marvel’s current phase. They promised us a Blade movie 5 years ago. People in middle school then are now in college. Ryan is lucky Disney let him make this movie at all.

[@hollandmovies]

As someone who is a filmmaker, and commonly anti marvel movies/ superhero films , but also really wants these to be good. I appreciate that there's someone like you in the community nando, someone who can look at these as a fan and normal film viewer for their entertainment value, but also validly criticize when marvel is churning out slop and not fall down into the hype of the marvel machine like many people do

[@djonyx6770]

They didn’t give X-23 anything to do in the big fight when she literally killed it in Logan

[@TheLastApostle]

She literally was the one who killed and decapitated juggernaut who then got the helmet to deadpool. She had the most important part of that fight

[@sideshow.parker]

I’ve always loved the idea of dafne keen being mcu wolverine that way we can just avoid all the controversy with a new Logan, give him a vacation for a couple years on screen again

[@lurkzie]

This film is funny and crowd pleasing but that doesn't make it a good movie. The emotional scenes feel forced and rely soley on the history of the franchise, the story feels made up as it goes along and lacks any sort of structure so it just feels like youre watching several comedy sketches randomly patched together.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

I don’t know how we watched the same movie! Jackman’s acting was amazing. It was fantastic to see the FOX franchise one last time before it got pruned. It was incredible burden on a B list character’s movie to handle that burden and it did a fantastic job.

[@lurkzie]

@@jmanakajosh9354 You've just proved my point... yes, Hugh Jackman's acting is good but if you had never seen any of the previous fox movies then you would feel absolutely nothing because this film just piggybacks off the nostalgia of other franchises to get emotion out of you. If you isolate it from the fan service and pandering it relys so heavily on, it does not earn any emotional payoff on a storytelling level.

[@whatisthisIcanteven]

" there's almost no universe where Johnny Storm could be overpowered like that by pyro" I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but I don't think you know what you're talking about on this one. That's literally happened lol

[@Renoistic]

Pyro in the movies is pretty underpowered so I get it. And you never see him doing anything but blow stuff up.

[@alexanders7569]

This movie was too big. DP1 and 2 were funny but also had a message and fun action because they were small scale. Making it fully multiversal didn't work, for me.

[@Zxykary]

And didn't utilise any of the DP Characters we've grown to care about. Unless those Characters are coming to the MCU (hard to justify in Colossus' case if they want to do X-Men right), this Film kind of shat on all of them.

[@GooseGonnaGoose]

I knew these type of vids were coming lol. Jokes aside, there are a lot of problems with this film and now that the sheen has wore off I appreciate you being one of the first to actually critically dive in. Inb4 people upset because they can’t rationalize enjoying a movie that’s has filmmaking issues.

[@Magdalena8008s]

Nobody is going to be mad at criticism. He's not the first. Plenty of big name channels who don't grift have issues with it. But as a whole, happy with it. So yeah, nothing in this video is breaking news. Basically everyone has said the same thing.

[@eywrong]

What are you going on about?

[@dremelrocket9572]

​@@Magdalena8008sI've seen tons of comments of people getting upset at even the slightest criticism of this movie.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

Most of the reviews I have seen are middling on this movie. KZbinr or article writer. Schafrillus (however his name is spelled), Captain Midnight, and Nando all said the movie had a bunch of issues but it was fun for their initial reviews.

[@rayortiz313]

I enjoyed it tons (dug the humor and action) while noticing that the in- jokes were way overdone, the plot was convoluted and confusing (multiverse nonsense- it's wolverine but its not, huh). Fun and appropriate for the anarchic self-referential Deadpool character, but not a good sustainable model for the MCU going forward.

[@SalilShahane]

0:42 : "Oh my god the Gambit's in danger" Perfectly summarising Gambit in 2024 😢

[@wdgangster]

LITERALLY

[@thetitsarefree]

It’s crazy Ryan Reynolds managed to pinch a whole trilogy out for his pet character while he was people’s choice, now his public perception is starting to slip but it’s timed with his pet character joining the biggest running franchise ever. His run is up there with Iron Man, Cap and Wolverine imo

[@archlinuxuser]

It's more like his wife, but you're overall pretty right.

[@ManhattanE]

I disagree with Cassandra Nova not needing to be the one with the ripping machine. She's a fucking diabolical nightmare. She ripped skin off and her all of a sudden being "good" because a man she barely knows would have loved her made no sense! Im glad she came back to time rip stuff. She already stated The Void was her home. Makes complete sense.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

I’m with you. Character consistency sacrificed to service “plot” or to create an arbitrary “character progression” is ridiculous. If they had done that Nando would’nt have stopped criticizing it.

[@alexmurphy5289]

Such a weak try hard villain. This movie was so mediocre

[@maddiedoes3571]

I justified all of that by choosing to believe that she was just lying to get to the machine. Otherwise none of it made sense; I fully expected her to double-cross and kill them the second the helmet came off.

[@Angel-Otk]

It felt like “Scary Movie”

[@martystreets]

Spot on

[@titansans2956]

When Deadpool visits Happy, that takes place just before Infinity War.

[@stgrimmddg2930]

Hey nando, on the Peter coming in scene to save the day, its probably because they didnt know how else to get Robert Delaney into the movie more after the locker room scene. And Ryan Reynolds really wanted him in because of Roberts son passing, Henry, who is noted in memorium in the credits at the end so that Robert and the rest of his family could have some of the W's they desperately needed at at a time like losing their child.

[@alexmurphy5289]

This movie had no tension or stakes whatsoever. No one can hurt deadpool or wolverine and we knew they weren’t going to die in the end anyway. They fight one another and it’s absolutely pointless other than for on screen entertainment. The entire film was just so forced. Had a few funny moments but that’s it

[@thebudyentertainmentchanne8845]

At the end of the Deadpool Corp fight, there should have been a beat where Wolvarine and Deadpool srae standing next to each other. And then THAT Deadpool is sliced in half by a Deadpool behind him and we see that one bleed like green blood, and then the REAL Deadpool, the one that just killed the one we THOUGHT was the real one, steps up onto place, and says somthing like "Good thing we used green blood for that one" and then they just went on like usual.

[@maddiedoes3571]

Yeah this could've been a good joke

[@redveinborneo4673]

A few things really bothered me. One: wolverine died in the future. If Deadpool breaks out of the TVA to go get wolverine why would he go to the future where he's already dead? Why go to another timeline at all? Why not just go to his timeline and grab present day wolverine? They already set up a team up at the end of Deadpool 2. Two: why did the TVA need Deadpool? They say they need him and then he leaves and they get the timeripper running without him. If they never got Deadpool, they would've been able to just prune the timeline. Three: they kept acting like Deadpool is a loser and the x-men didn't want him but Deadpool 2 ended with the x-men telling him the door is always open at the xavier institute. There's more, but it just blows my mind that a multi-million dollar movie is able to completely botch something as simple as making a story that makes sense.

[@maddiedoes3571]

This is so real.... He literally wasn't even dead yet

[@LotkaVolterra]

You're right about the flashbacks where Laura said "You were always the wrong guy, until you weren't." I did love that ending, but I found it weird that they'd reveal that additional dialogue at that moment. I was like, is this a screenwriting convention that I wasn't aware of?

[@jmanakajosh9354]

Such a nitpick 😂

[@LotkaVolterra]

@@jmanakajosh9354 Yeah I agree. Still loved the movie.

[@Renoistic]

It's a common convention. You cut a scene early so you can get the whole thing later for maximum impact and without repeating a whole scene. It's done pretty poorly here though.

[@JohnDowson100]

Cassandra: "You can use a sling ring to Multiverse Hop". MoM Wanda: 👁👄👁. Like, I'm 100% fine with Wade breaking the rules.. but Marvel.. maybe, just maybe, you should define what the rules are first 😅.

[@jackstutz2860]

Yeah Anchor Being definitely felt like "oh shit, we gotta do something to clean this up a bit" and that's why they just never explain how it works

[@rmsgrey]

It kinda works on a meta-level - Hugh Jackman quit as Wolverine and the FoX-Men universe folded...

[@jmanakajosh9354]

No. It was a joke. How did you miss this joke.

[@Chronoson123]

Cavill-rine was such a dud as well. They did the big Marvel pause where they expected a reaction, and there was nothing. No laughs, no claps, nobody cared. Been to see it twice and both times, you can feel the awkward energy in the room as everyone waits for the movie to start back up. Actually, a few of the cameos were like this. I think the majority of people wouldnt have known who Elektra was, or got the Gambit jokes (or even understood why he was there). Full of cameos that start with the Marvel cameo pause, and pretty much none of them landed except Blade.

[@saucevc8353]

The Resistance cameos were 100% a joke though, Deadpool literally says right after that he has no idea who any of them are.

[@kiratwo4u]

​@@saucevc8353 did the joke made go haha tho

[@robonthecob6920]

1:38 Absolutely not. A movie should not adhere to its genre so strictly to the point where given the chance to add something substantive, it shouldn't, because maybe you can get in one more quick easy laugh. If you can make something profound work in a comedy film, the film is all the better for it. As long as the tone is balanced well, substance is always appreciated ,at least in my opinion.

[@negyt7665]

I'm pretty sure the main reason Cavill was in it was just a big "f#ck you" to the DC movie verse falling apart so disastrously. At least that's the way I interpreted it.

[@timogul]

On the concept of "Anchor beings," it makes no sense in a world based on physics. . . buuuut, the MCU us now a world based on STORIES, it is entirely managed by a GOD OF STORIES. So now anchor beings make sense, because of the God of Stories gets bored of your universe, if all the stories in it have been told, why bother to continue it? Further, one could argue that Logan was NOT the anchor being of that world, Deadpool was, and maybe they just assumed otherwise. Deadpool was "dead" in the sense that he had become boring and pointless, but this adventure brought him "back to life," allowing his story to continue.

[@donovanwiebe2495]

I found the bus fight to be a super cool idea but hard to follow. At one point Deadpool went out of frame and then stumble back in a few moments later and I noticed that he didn't have the gold guns. My first thought was "oh, this is the wrong Deadpool! It's going to be a great joke at the end and maybe a cameo!" and then nothing happened, I just saw it wrong. Missed opportunity

[@faherty87]

Ahhhh if Colossus showed up at the end, he could have done the Fastball Special with Wolverine. They perfectly set it up having Colossus in the first two films

[@tomiwaaina5499]

The idea of having deadpools friends killing all the deadpools would have been so fun!

[@juicestains52]

It has the same problem as most marvel movies nowadays where it was very clearly made to be enjoyable in the moment. But when you actually rewatch it it completely falls apart.

[@mightguy3118]

True. It's not much different than what we've been getting from marvel. It can make fun of current marvel all it wants but at the end of the day it's doing the same thing 🤦

[@jasperalmoore]

I was really hoping to see Daniel Radcliffe as one of the wolverine variants. That would have been funnier than Cavill, imo, but his cameo was fun too.

[@OpticBlast-yk5hf]

I figured Cable’s time traveler allowed Deadpool to travel to the main MCU universe. He would’ve lost or broken it later though. That’s why he didn’t just go back and stop Logan from dying in his universe.

[@GomerJ]

I just came from the movie and I can attest you are absolutely right, in the campfire scene the dialogue ends at "you never were that guy" and then in the flashback they add the "until you were" part and it totally stuck out to me so hearing someone else say it confirms how odd it was to leave it incomplete in the initial scene. If it was meant to be a reveal to hammer home the theme then the initial scene should've been shot in a way where it was clear she continued talking but we weren't sure what was said. Then the split works fine for me.

[@otrenigmaandy7443]

7:17 Wolverine knew from his past that he couldn’t skip out on a fight to drink and be sad because Wolverine’s whole thing in this movie is that he wasn’t there when his Xmen died because he was gone drinking. He had matured before the Cassandra fight because he knew he had to be there before they even left to go fight

[@mschmitt225]

I have a couple counter points: 1. The fight vs Cassandra Nova’s goons made sense to me. The reason the fight didn’t end immediately is because Cassandra Nova was focused on converting Wolverine to join her. If Wolverine doesn’t show up till the end, we’d ask why she didn’t just kill everyone immediately 2. The Deadpool Core would not have just been like “Oops, they got past us. Let’s go home. They could’ve still blitzed Deadpool and Wolverine before they stopped Cassandra

[@chickenphat730]

13:30 That scene took place in March 2018 (there was a close up of a clock at the beginning), so before infinity war, so yes there was an Avengers team. But I agree it was a weird scene. Because yeah I don’t know why there would be interviews for that. And also I don’t get how he got there, because cable’s device is only supposed to travel in time. Also America Chavez is supposed to be the only one who can travel to other universes, so theoretically he would have only been able to go to branches if his own. And wouldn’t that have caused an incursion? lol idk

[@liferealgood]

Maybe we read it differently but I wouldn’t say Cassandra Nova went “good” anymore than Thanos sparing Tony’s life after Dr Strange bargained with him using the stone.

[@CalSolar]

Rob Mcelhenney is the TVA agent that gets pruned in the Bye Bye Bye scene which would explain why he ends up in The Void and gets captured by Pyro

[@hectorarredondo6929]

I agree the alternate Wolverine should’ve been fan cast actors. Short Wolverine played by Danny devito, Daniel Radcliffe as patch, Tom hardy and taron edgerton, and Hugh Jackman as the comic accurate old man Logan

[@MrTragedious986]

Sure the movie is not perfect and some jokes don’t land, but I still have fun with this movie.

[@kyshim1247]

Definitely the most intelligent marvel movie made

[@kadegetslaid634]

All the jokes landed for me 😭 I was laughing the entire time

[@TheWerttyFiles]

@@kyshim1247hmm idk about that chief.

[@kyshim1247]

@@TheWerttyFiles well i dont see why it wouldn't, care to explain your view?

[@TheWerttyFiles]

@@kyshim1247 Infinity War is a much better written movie. Better plot, better writing, characters were all great although this movie did that great too. it set more things up than Deadpool and Wolverine for Endgame with more movinng parts than Deadpool 3, which is harder to do and was done more intelligently.

[@fredskull1618]

I’m sure Nando doesn’t require the movie to be perfect, and fans are definitely the target audience, but the movie does squander a bunch of resources to end up being such a hollow story. There are some moments that genuinely feel like SNL sketches.

[@aceknightgaming1542]

The movie is fan pandering with no subtley. Given the disdain post endgame MCU films were to the fans I'm not suprised ppl ate this one up despite the lackluster story.

[@kylejoe8393]

The joke about Blade was that the show was terrible and the new movie is in development hell 😂

[@yoshi_923]

To me, Deadpool & Wolverine is the definition of a movie being fun not good

[@JojoTheVulture]

I mean it's not bad, I'd say it's better than most movies post endgame. It's definitely no gotg 3

[@RandomCrewPotatoSoup]

@@JojoTheVulture its not even better than half of the movies post endgame.

[@Gannicus006]

@@RandomCrewPotatoSoup nah its defenitely better.most of the post end game movies r almost all about the message.

[@Mr.Nyongo]

​@@JojoTheVulturebetter and Shang Chi and a Wakanda Forever???

[@JojoTheVulture]

@@Mr.Nyongo I said most movies

[@christophersimms9785]

13:44 the Avengers do exist in this scene in 2018 about a month before Infinity War and it would make sense that Happy (the forehead of security) would vet people who claim to have super powers and want to join the avengers. Happy would be the entry level interview before ever meeting Tony Stark for the team. Plus at this point the avengers were kinda broken up at this point post Civil War.

[@carlosestruga4322]

One villain cliche at the end: Casandra took her time to go to the machine room and turn It on, like she got lost inside the Subway, or was so kind to wait for them to finish the Deadpool swarm fight and come for her

[@timothybarnett1006]

7/10, solidly entertaining product, not the soulless 'you recognise this thing from the previous thing' but not a touch on the Spider-Verse movies when it comes to references. Also the MCU is Earth-199999.

[@blindeyedblightmain3565]

45 minutes of rambling condensed to "I wish they would stick to the formula that was overused into dust in the past 18 years" holy heck no wonder Marverl keeps pumping out the same slop if this is what their target audience wants

[@777jimothy]

It's somewhere between a deadpool about mcu and an mcu film about deadpool

[@Sjono]

Not every team up of Marvel characters has to be called Avengers

[@JOVONO]

That is kind of the Avengers in the comics though It is weird but that’s is probably the team in comics that has the most inconsistent roster with characters from other teams even becoming Avengers It does seem that Avengers have always been the ultimate team to join in the comics Even mutant characters like Wolverine, Beast, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are all notable members Not just anyone can be a member of the X-Men or Inhumans but everyone can be an Avenger even characters from those specific teams and it seems that is the end goal of any Marvel hero to be in that team

[@DJmouchi777]

​@JOVONO No, what Avengers books have you been reading? The Avengers aren't the Justice League where they're the cream of the crop of superheroes of that universe. They're on the same tier as the Fantastic Four and X-Men in terms of importance. The reason not everyone can be an X-Man is because you have to be a mutant (outside of odd cases like Juggernaut), and the Inhumans aren't a team, they're a subspecies of humanity like mutants.

[@suhailrefaye92]

@@JOVONOlol the Avengers are absolutely NOT the cream of the crop in the comics. Iron Man, Thor, Haweye were C or D tier heroes before the movies made them famous. The X-Men and Spiderman have always been Marvel's best selling IPs followed by the Fantastic 4 until the MCU happened.

[@JOVONO]

@@suhailrefaye92 I didn’t say they were more popular Maybe check my comment again I was alive before the MCU I know who the most famous Marvel characters were What I am saying is that so many characters end up in the Avengers even if they’re from another team and I gave examples in my comment I know you’re trying to gatekeep but I was alive before all of these Marvel movies came out so I do know Maybe you should actually look at what someone I’d actually saying in their comment first before you try and big-note yourself

[@JOVONO]

@@DJmouchi777 you don’t think I know that Also I meant in their universe being in the Avengers is basically a higher calling

[@Louis-wx1fo]

I hope taylor swift does not join the mcu

[@B1gBoyPants]

An explanation at the end- paradox only wanted to destroy that universe. Cassandra was going to destroy every universe except the void. Still didn’t make total sense, but I guess she felt that she had been betrayed by the TVA and the only way she would be left alone in the void is if she destroyed every other universe.

[@gamelairtim]

My main plot problem was that Paradox's plan made no sense. This was not so much the resolution of a plot as lucky things kind of coming together. Paradox was apparently ordered to recruit Deadpool, but then he deliberately ruins that by telling Deadpool that he won't be able to go home and his friends will be wiped out. No problem, because he prunes Deadpool, but then his plan to use the ripper falls apart because Cassandra shows up. Basically, no one had a plan. Paradox was going to use his unlicensed ripper which would have probably gotten him in trouble but maybe not. Cassandra could have just ruled the Void, but she decided with no plan to destroy a bunch of realities. Wade had no plan, just hoping they could somehow convince Cassandra not to kill them and instead send them to the TVA. Wolverine had no plan, he would have just killed Cassandra and been stuck in the Void. Fun movie, but it was "just a bunch of stuff that happened".

[@rmsgrey]

A big part of the point of Paradox is that he was an idiot who thought he was a hero. He'd been given this makework assignment - spend a couple of hundred years watching a timeline slowly unravel - presumably to keep him away from anything important - but saw it as an opportunity to prove he knew better than everyone else. As for Cassandra, she would have stayed quite happily ruling the Void and ignoring the timelines, but Paradox attempted to have her assassinated, showing that she couldn't afford to ignore the rest of the multiverse. So, in order to secure her domain in the Void, she decided to wipe out the multiverse, leaving only the Void. She had a clear plan, which was explained in the movie, and which failed only because two heroes were willing to sacrifice themselves to prevent it.

[@gamelairtim]

@@rmsgrey , more opportunity than plan, but I basically agree.

[@jmanakajosh9354]

A big part of the meta-commentary is that everything stupid paradox does is what Bob Igger tried to do. Bob went and bought fox and then tried to turn Deadpool 2 into something PG-13. It was Bob Chapek the other Bob who Greenlit this movie. Paradox is Bob Igger. The TVA is Disney. He’s not a “villain” Paradox is meta-commentary.

[@kiratwo4u]

Ah so a bunch of SNL sketches

[@allanbroady2970]

With No way home and this film Is it safe to say that the general audience doesn't care about story as long as its fun ? This is what I see the next Avenger films being.