DEAN GUITARS: On The Road To Ruin

[@ginoames]

When Dime was playing the Dean's in the 90's the company was done. That's why he was with Washburn. Dean wasn't around to make him guitars. I really think Dean came back because of Dime's popularity.

[@INVERTEDBUKAKI]

1000 percent and the owner told his widow gf that he just isn't relevant anymore. That is as cold as it comes. Then mustaine leaving was a really bad sign.

[@leftyzappa]

That's it exactly. They made *excellent* guitars. There is ZERO doubt that they would never have become as popular as they are without Dime though. ZZ Top, The Cars, and Sammy Hagar all used Dean guitars in the 80's. We saw them in videos and at concerts. I never once asked "Whoa! What guitar is THAT?! until I heard Pantera and saw Dime using one.

[@BigTony-bf5jr]

I love his white custom dean he used on the first 3 albums. Totally sharp.

[@DrScott666]

Dimebag made the Dean what it is today!

[@MrClassicmetal]

And he was playing Deans simply because he liked the look and he had won a few of them in guitar contests as a kid. In interviews he explained that he used to look for Deans in pawn shops when he was on the road. He was signed on to endorse the brand when he was already famous.

[@ferndogport7883]

The flying V suit by Gibson was killed by a court over a year ago. Judge basically said V shape has been made by so many manufacturers over so many years, it's ludicrous to nail just Dean.

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

Jackson makes a killer King V guitar.... personally, I hope to own it soon but with the EMG pickups! *Maybe it was the company starting to go under that made them press onwards for these pathetic lawsuits?!* It sucks cuz I love Gibson but they should just move forward and not ruin their name by bullying smaller companies.

[@buchanfoulsham6314]

@@johnsguitarmusicanddemos didn't they do a firebird as well? It's ridiculous for Gibson to try to hang on to these shapes for/after this amount of time. It comes across as a company panicking that the 'little guys' have caught up, and can produce the same quality for less. Over time it becomes harder to justify the RRP on the Gibson name alone, when there's no tangible difference in the build quality or craftsmanship.

[@IndyRockStar]

@@buchanfoulsham6314 It's nice to see the "just as good as" brigade still at full force. The only people that say other guitars are "as good as" Gibson (or Fender for that matter) either suck at guitar or most likely never owned a Gibson (or American Fender). I used to be one of those guys....then I got to the point in my career that I could afford to play Tier 1 guitars and I can tell you first hand the "just as good as" crowd just don't know what they're talking about. I don't pay 3-5x the price for my stage instruments just because I can . I pay more, because they're better instruments. Period.

[@corneliuscrewe677]

@@IndyRockStar Says the guy calling himself “KetoSoldier.”

[@SvenTviking]

@@IndyRockStar Gibson nearly went to the wall a few years ago with really bad quality control. Guitars being smashed by dealers because they were so badly constructed that it was impossible to repair them. I would say there are plenty of people that can build as well as Gibson and American Fender. Ibanez, PRS for two. There are many boutique builders making better.

[@savamue]

when my band opened up for MAB, he actually took a second to talk with us and just hang out for like an hour and was just a cool guy all around, he said Dean used to feel like a family to him and once that new owner took over, it no longer was the company he used to be a part of and enjoyed playing for

[@Seafire-gy2hs]

I attended a "guitar clinic" MAB did at a local guitar store over 12 years ago - he was great, very entertaining, the time just flew by.

[@the92project]

dude, your delivery on these videos is so professional, you have a calm demeanor, you research your stuff, you face the camera well and speak clearly with a good rhythm and tone. Im a double communications major and pay attention to this stuff. congrats, keep up the good work.

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

Wow, thanks!

[@Frip36]

Agree, he speaks properly (which is not as easy as it sounds). The king of speaking for me is Paul Harrell. He's a firearm enthusiast. Big KZbin channel. Another popular channel to observe a fine speaker is Rick Beato. He has a more conversational style than Harrell. Beato's channel is about music. Beato was a professor, so he's had years to hone his skills in public speaking and especially storytelling.

[@Lomni]

@@Frip36 never thought I'd see an audience crossover between Paul Harrell and here haha

[@honkingdonk3981]

@@Lomni same here! I watch all three ( Max, Rick and Paul). It is really cool to see the people with the same common interests.

[@springbloom5940]

@@Lomni Is Max the Paul Harrell of guitars? You be the judge.

[@michaelhall736]

It kind of makes me sad we won't be getting any Dave Mustaine or Dimebag signatures anymore because they are such awesome guitars.

[@claudevieaul1465]

There's already plenty of those around - the Dime shape gets stale after seeing about 50....

[@yourdrummer2034]

You won't see any new Deans but there's tons floating around yet.

[@sportidiots6587]

@@yourdrummer2034 there was new deans tho the vengeance and the zero models came out after the lawsuit

[@BeersAndBeatsPDX]

I would argue that Dime's signiature wasn't just the most iconic dean but one of the most iconic and instantly recognizable signiature of all guitars.

[@markchristopher420]

💪😎👍 Love it! Friend of mine has six of them + twin Randall Dime stacks, and even though I'm a drummer, I just bought a used MLX scary cherry maple... love @ 1st sight!

[@Bravo-Too-Much]

So which one would you consider the most iconic? The Cadillac is my favorite and sexy in white and gold, but it’s definitely not their most iconic. I think Dime’s is hands down their flagship model.

[@Malum09]

> loss of famous endorsers > 2 big lawsuits that could gut it if they are lost > new boss rumored to be a tool Yeah, I think Dean is going to need a miracle to survive

[@geemac7267]

I'm kind of surprised Gibson chose to sue rather than purchase the company.

[@Malum09]

@@geemac7267 they very well could do that if Dean loses both Lawsuits

[@geemac7267]

@@Malum09 By the sound of the state of the company, I can't imagine they will even fight the lawsuits. Likely why Gibson is going after them. All I see that Gibson can lay a claim to is the V, and Dean is hardly the only company that's ever copied that.

[@Malum09]

@@geemac7267 they could settle out of court… because I don’t see them stopping producing those shapes, unless they pull an ESP and decide to modify them

[@ithemba]

Let's be real: the miracle will just be the acquisition of Dean and everything connected to it by some brand or another, maybe even just some far Eastern oem company we have never heard of, and sell midpriced versions of the old Dean models made in far east. Kinda like BC Rich. We live in a world where guitar making is more about the marketing than about the actual building (since most of the guitars are all built in the same 5 or 6 OEM factories), so no well established guitar brand like Dean is ever going to just go away completely, when it can be bought to market guitars that otherwise would stay under the radar.

[@Bob-of-Zoid]

I built a few for Dimebag (Dimebolts and Slimebags)when I worked at the Washburn custom shop, and one of those double neck deals for MAB too. MAB came way early to pick it up, and ripped it out of my hands before it was even setup because he couldn't wait! He played it as if a 1/4" action was no big thing, and shredded just the same! Daaaaaaaaang! What a great guy, he walked around in the shop and talked to many of the employees, instead of hiding in the offices as most artists do.

[@workingorder2189]

Hopefully, Dean Zelinsky buys back the brand and makes some legacy guitars like the Mach VII, Bel Aire, and Eighty-Eight.

[@filipvanek6272]

I doubt he would be interested.

[@brandonc2859]

Dean is gonna sell to Gibson

[@brandonc2859]

Lambos and cocaine, in later news Florida man......

[@c.f.pedraza4057]

@@brandonc2859 🤣🤣🤣

[@formula73]

Dean Z isn’t going to buy back shit. He ran the company into the ground before, then ran DBZ into the ground.

[@RPGOverload]

Hey Max, I purchased one of the newer Dean models at the beginning of August, specifically the Kerry King signature import model. I purchased it specifically because it was 24 fret, had a Kahler instead of a Floyd, and came in a hard case. I absolutely love mine! It's built like an absolute tank, feels excellent (close to my ESP E-IIs or Ormsby Metal X in terms of build quality), not a single fit/finish imperfection, and decent specs. A local shop to me is also a Dean dealer, and they have a good selection of the upper end import models to try out. All of the ones I've put hands on (around 4-5 total) have been excellent so long as it is an Indonesian or Korean import model. From my experience having bought/played a lot of guitars this year, higher end LTDs (1000/Black Metal/Signature Series) feels pretty similar build quality-wise, whereas Jackson Pro-series models of commiserate prices tend to have more fit/finish problems, just as a reference point.

[@GuitarMAXMusic]

Thanks for the report! That's nice to hear that it's a good guitar!

[@jonahwizard1]

I bought one of the import Dimebag signatures last year. I picked it up for the novelty, but was surprised. It was the only Floyd in its price range in tune, feels high quality, was set up (meaning Dean did it because we all know Guitar Center doesn't care), the frets were flawless, and had the Seymour Duncan Dime pickup for $800. Dean has a video explaining how they quality check and setup their import guitars in the US. After this experience, I believe it, and a simple setup really shows when comparing to other imports.

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

The reason LTD 1000 series feel similar is because they're made at the same factory. World musical instruments in Korea.

[@RPGOverload]

@@AWMJoeyjoejoe my LTD Arrow 1000 and Dean Kerry King V are both Indo models, but still probably same factory. Different feeling necks, similar build quality

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

@@RPGOverload That's interesting! I'd assume they were built by Cort. They make guitars for dozens of different brands.

[@kylemoran4343]

Love the update on Dean... I met Elliot a few times when he still owned Thoroughbred Music on Hillsborough Ave. Before he sold to Sam Ash, and purchased Dean Guitars. He seemed like such a nice man, and smart too. About 9 months ago, my son and I applied for jobs at Dean, working at any opening on the floor. (not management) The lady that took our apps. was very nice, and said her husband was the line foreman, and would like having a father and son team on the line. NEVER heard from them again. So we'll keep building in our garage. Cheers

[@misterblack6521]

Let's see your guitars.

[@alanlevesque7180]

Sounds like we're neighbors. 👍

[@OneImperfectSaint]

Would love to see what your duo is about!

[@kylemoran4343]

@@alanlevesque7180 Howdy Neighbor ! I've been living all over the Tampa Bay area since 1986, even lived at the beach for about 4 years. Upper Tampa for about 15 years.

[@kylemoran4343]

@@misterblack6521 I'll try and post a few on my channel today. They took Flash away from me, so that's about all my channel is good for now anyway.

[@alexeicrnkovicmusic]

There's one aspect that I feel was left out: the overall quality of the guitars themselves. The only models I've had my hands on that didn't feel cheap, unwieldy, or need massive setups out of the box were 1) the several-thousand dollar custom-shop models or 2) some of the Rusty Cooley models. As someone who works in a music store, I'm constantly asked about what are good guitars for their respective prices. And because I always want to avoid returns, I'll point them to ESPs, Jacksons, or Schecters if they want the more extreme body styles. This has been going on long before the change in management at Dean. And I think that, similar to Gibson ironically, Dean was far too comfortable with relying on the brand-recognition and let far too many things slide when it came to general quality control.

[@neonlights_12]

Sample size of one, but I recently picked up a Custom 550FR lefty that retailed for $1,200-1,500 based on what I could find, and it's great. No QC problems, the floyd holds tune, feels like a solid instrument. I can't speak to out of the box setup of course because it was used, but it's exactly what I'd expect from a higher-end-but-not-signature-or-custom-shop guitar.

[@catkittycatkity6482]

When I was on a rock climbing trip in Las Vegas i went to the guitar center and played a dean its was a explore in a beautiful blue burst it wax awsome quality. Sad there on a run. But get deans now and if they do go our then everyone with a dean almost instantly have a guitar on a path to rarity

[@BenJammin1]

Deans are made cheap. Even their signature MAB guitars had some cheap hardware in my opinion.

[@citizenk812]

Over the course of a long career, 3 times I had the experience of working for both the father who started the company followed by their sons who inherited the business. In each case, the sons underperformed and/or failed in the business. While the sons were intelligent and for the most part hard working, they lacked an essential quality exhibited by their fathers. Namely, they thought they were "entitled" to success whereas their fathers had to earn it through being real "people persons". This sense of entitlement filtered through everything they did and frankly turned off many employees dragging the company down.

[@clintonmichael7607]

I thought Dean Zelinsky started the company.

[@deathnsd6953]

figures....hope they go broke and let's see them ''start'' a successful business.....lmao

[@JosePineda-jn8jk]

Gibson’s claim is they are doing shitty because everyone stole their ideas. Meanwhile Fender is making money when everyone and their mama makes strats. 🤣

[@Axess-sv8nq]

Considering Gibson STOLE just about ALL of their 'ideas', that's pretty ironic. They're doing shitty because they're catering to cultist morons who can barely play guitar - but want to look cool. And, they're also catering to doctors, politicians, and lawyers, who either can't play or can barely play, and want something to hang on their wall to also look cool. The bulk of guitar players in the world aren't wealthy elitists. And, of course, there are a lot of fakes online claiming to be wealthy.

[@Axess-sv8nq]

@@DARTHMOBIUS The only reasons Gibsons are overpriced: idiots and Gibson Cultists will pay it. There's nothing special about them. And that's coming from a Gibson owner. I've played Gibsons for decades here and there. They're like any electric guitar. They just have that special name on the headstock.

[@deviltronix]

@@DARTHMOBIUS Gibson quoted you $2,300 for a custom shop SG in 2019? Prices were way higher than that 20 years ago, the Gibson custom shop has always been ridiculously expensive.

[@deviltronix]

@@Axess-sv8nq Plus they can never innovate without doing something ridiculous and/or ridiculously expensive. For the most part they haven't added anything new in 50 years.

[@Axess-sv8nq]

​@@deviltronix Pretty much! I have a Samick Torino TR1 (designed by Greg Bennett). Greg was one of Gibson's top luthiers/techs. He wanted to make a few changes to Gibson's guitars to give the customers more value for what they were paying. Gibson kept refusing and he eventually left.

[@grg-mpgmusic7247]

It’s too bad it has to be this way. I remember in the early 80s driving around trying to find Dean guitars and BC Rich guitars at all the little music stores we used to have in New England at that time. You had to get lucky, you had to have cash and you had to have a willing seller because those guitars were great. I never did land the three pick up Dean Cadillac but that alone was enough to keep chasing. It’s hard to believe 40+ years has gone by so fast. Keep up the good work Max.

[@Krullmatic]

Whoever owns a Dean, I would suggest holding on to them and keeping them in great shape, because if they go out of business they'll probably be worth a lot of money one day. Especially a Dimebag model.

[@chillin6491]

i got a dean micheal shekner v

[@ThrashMetalAJM]

I own 2 Dean dime razorbacks and I just recently have a back order Dean from hell haha!

[@PantsingtonHardware]

If Dean really does go down, I really hope (I'm sure it's likely a guarantee) a company buys up the rights to make all the Dime guitars. As a guy who just recently got into playing, one of the reasons I feel bad for not getting into playing sooner was missing out on cool as fuck guitars like the Dime Slime and Stealth etc. My God, they're so cool.

[@MusicMadnessM]

Dean dont have the right to dime modells any more. Its in the hands of the dimebag estate.

[@thepatriot4355]

I'm into high end Custom Modern and prophecy Epiphones Gibson's and Fenders

[@jayrichardson5811]

never was was into dean guitars never played one i like epiphone Jackson Kramer fender Gretsch

[@moparbryan]

Dean has always been a hard thing for me because I’m same age as Dimebag and remember those original Dean guitars. They were like super cool versions of Gibsons with that cool headstock but they made so many cheap junk guitars later it was sad. But they have made some really cool guitars. My Christian Martucci V is super high end and quality for an import guitar it really seems like a higher end guitar than it’s price point.

[@canadiancombatwombatthe3rd782]

Unless you got one made in Korea or Florida, then you got a Chinese knock off.

[@moparbryan]

@@canadiancombatwombatthe3rd782 it was made in Indonesia. I don’t understand your point, it came new from Sweetwater?

[@lostreb]

I find it interesting this is the 2nd commentary I've seen on Dean Guitars this week (one with a former Signature Artist with Dean). My take on what he said confirmed what you said about the problem being with the new management. People he "Trusted" leaving, and not having the productive interaction that existed with the previous owner. On the lawsuits, I honestly hope Dean wins the Gibson Lawsuit. Not the one with Dime. My personal observation is, the new management may not be as Guitar / Music oriented, maybe more about "Bottom-Line," and that is never a good driving process. I'm no expert, but it seems to me a guitar company has to be "Music / Musician Oriented," not Bottom Line Oriented, to be successful, especially in today's market. Thank you for sharing the "confidential" information you have Max. It confirmed what I was thinking. Thank you!! Great Video!!!

[@pyschokilla]

Who was the previous video you saw put out by?

[@chrishill9311]

I agree 100%. Dean will likely win the Gibson lawsuit but the one with Dime's estate well they're fucked. I believe we are seeing the slow painful death of a once great guitar brand.

[@hittinskinz24]

I had a Dean Dimebag Razorback (sold it) I bought back in 2007 that I had nothing but problems with. Constantly getting it repaired and setup.

[@eguitarplayer6689]

@@hittinskinz24 I had problems with my new "Dimebag" Crybaby Wah (it didn't work at all). It's disappointing because I wanted to use something designed by "Dimebag". I like Dean still, aside from all the lawsuits.

[@Kevinacharles]

@@pyschokilla I think they're refering to an interview with MAB, which was featured in Ultimate Guitar.

[@MrRMB1]

I just picked up a used Michael Angelo Batio Signature and it's one of my favorites. Dean certainly got it right, it's just too bad that they couldn't keep it that way.

[@g3ultra]

Dean still makes great guitars. I own 2 of the Select series guitars and they're fantastic. Their imports are really good and all go through the custom shop for inspection and setup before going to distributors; and the custom shop builds guitars that are as nice as any you'll find anywhere. Max, you should join the Dean Owners Association and come down to Tampa for the DOA event in February. I won't comment on anything about Evan, the lawsuits, or the state of the company because I have friends that work in the USA custom shop and HQ. I just hope everything works out because they have a great product and the people that work for them are dedicated and passionate about what they do.

[@MajorDook1]

Nah. They suck.

[@jacobsamano9761]

Totally suck

[@g3ultra]

@@jacobsamano9761 You don't know what you're talking about. They're as good as any LTD or Schecter. The custom shop guitars are as good as any custom guitars. FACT.

[@frankferriolo9212]

@@MajorDook1 Elaborate. Or stfu!

[@frankferriolo9212]

@@jacobsamano9761 Why do they suck? Do you care to state a reason? If so; we all would like to hear it. If not....stfu.

[@mcsologuitar]

My USA "Vinman" is an amazing instrument. Truly on par with any other USA made guitar. Hope they can save the company. Dean has a very long history.

[@richardcosgrove94]

I have a USA Vinman 2000 also, they built for me in 2020. One of the best guitars I've ever owned including many PRS, Fender, Taylor etc... Broken hearted to see Vinnie leave them. Still love the guitar, it's a keeper. It's seems obvious though while people like Paul R Smith, Bob Taylor are deeply involved in sustainability projects, designing & pioneering the guitar craft etc.... Dean unfortunately seems in it for the money only. Plus mostly pigeon holed focus on one genre of music too. Doesn't seem sincere or the best way to grow a brand. I hope the get on track, or someone buys them who cares.

[@tonevicar-fr5gh]

I tried several Dean models when Skunk Baxter from The Doobie Brothers was using them during the '80s. To me, they felt extremely lightweight, and poorly built. The excessive polyurethane finish made them look and feel almost like plastic. The sound wasn't half bad. Truth be told, Dean painted themselves into a small corner of the market with their pointy guitars and jumbo frets. There are simply too many other manufacturers doing it much better than Dean guitars is at the moment. Best of luck to them in court, but I can't imagine how they've lasted this long.

[@kcrich1310]

I have two Dean Guitars. I have a Michael Amott signature Bloodstorm V guitar. It's not a USA custom but it is a set neck higher end model. Very lightweight for as big a guitar it is. The unusual shape of the ends of the V make it easy to prop up against my leg and play standing up (hard to explain). Great playing and sounding guitar. The only drawbacks for me is the placement of the output jack (have to use a right angle jack plug or wear a guitar strap) when playing sitting down and I had to buy locking tuners because the guitar didn't come with them. The other Dean I own is a Rusty Cooley signature 8 string. It's actually a bolt-on neck but despite that upper fret access is incredible. Literally nothing gets in your way as Rusty used to say. Aside from switching out the bridge pickup getting locking tuners will be the only mods I make to it. Overall great guitars for the money. At the moment I'm trying to buy another Dean 79V guitar if I can get the guy to come down on his price just a little more. If he won't then I may pull the trigger on one of those Firefly Vs..........

[@brainpaint]

I have one of the first Dean Razorback Explosion imports (some refer as the burnt crotch version as they changed the graphics slightly the next year). I never really cared for the pickups. However what I will say that I love about that guitar is the neck shape. I think they call it a V neck shape. For me personally it is just the most comfortable neck I have played. I would play my jackson, BC Rich, Schecter guitars and the necks were just never as comfortable as the Dean neck. I have also played a few other Dean guitars with that V neck shape and they were just as comfortable to play as well. I would love to have that neck shape and feel on all of my guitars.

[@andrewtolson2566]

I just found a $100 ML chicago standard in a pawn shop the other day. The neck felt awesome and a didnt know why till I found it was a "V". I had never played one, and now im like, crap, how did I not know about this.

[@AlpacasRYum]

I bought a Dean Icon new in Mar of this year. The build quality is excellent, with good hardware. I did have to have it serviced a week after i bought it due to a buzz I couldnt locate. Other than that, I am very pleased with it. I dont know if I got lucky, but the sound of the guitar is INCREDIBLE, and is a pleasure to play.

[@Axess-sv8nq]

That would be really unfortunate. I love my Vendetta and ZX. They're great and play well. EDIT: After finding one in stock and just ordered a Dean Thoroughbred X-QM. F**K Gibson and their lawsuits.

[@ChronicMetamorphosis]

Good dig. I've been considering an Exile 6, but have yet to pull the trigger because I already own a Schecter Reaper 6. I'd love to see more of these guitar industry digs from you. Your speculation was founded in facts, and you made your sources clear to your audience before you presented them. MaxDigs mini-series when? 😎

[@guitarboneyard6181]

So to start off, very well put! Definitely agree with everything you said and as a major dean guitar player it’s sad to have to do so. Im huge dean player myself, Anyone who sees my Instagram or watches my KZbin channel knows me for my wall of deans. I have mostly 2018 Deans, with the exception of one of the older model limited run (primal concrete sledge) and one dean ml7 select model from 2020. They are all absolutely amazing and honestly my select Dean 7 string is go to guitar that I couldn’t live without! It’s been the stepping stone for a lot my tone in the riffs that I’m writing for the new songs I plan on uploading to Spotify soon. With that being said I really hope that dean can pickup and some how reverse this curse they have bestowed upon themselves. It’s heart crushing for me because I love the dime models and don’t see myself playing anything other than a ml or ( x shape) guitar. Though there is talk about solar making an x shape??? Non the less, I guess after they are long gone I’ll still be jamming them but hopefully someone like solar or a private company will pickup the dime brand to continue the legacy or dean straightens up and gives credit where credit is due!

[@kennygardner5041]

I remember when Dean Zelinsky drove his station wagon to my favorite shop south of Chicago in 1977. Those were GREAT!! Everything going overseas has hurt many companies. Ruined Peavey.

[@yurimodin7333]

watch the Undercover Boss Peavey episode. Trust me Peavey ruined Peavey and they will NEVER get another penny from me.

[@kennygardner5041]

@@yurimodin7333 His new son in law did not help with his marketing decisions. After Hartley’s first wife died I think he quit caring. Be careful of anything on UB. It IS TV. Not saying they were wrong per se but TV IS about ratings.

[@yurimodin7333]

@@kennygardner5041 That son-in-law was a pure piece of shit. I can't remember the exact phrase he said but as they were getting ready to go into the factory on the show he said something like "get ready for the 'poor me' competition".

[@sydwynd]

Always loved the Dean V. I see Michael Schenker still has an artist model. It would be cool to have one.

[@sinisailjadica1842]

Dean V is far superior to Gibson as a build quality. I have 2 Korinas 1 has been given to my brother as a gift. As soon as I got hold of the first one I sold the Gibson Flying V which was a great guitar but USA Dean is better

[@Stefan-]

I really love my Dean classic shaped V´s that i have played almost exclusively for about 15 years now, i really hope Dean can continue making these.

[@And1slash]

I've got a 2009 MS model ( korea ) and it's quite amazing even would say it's one of the best Deans in the signature V models too

[@cptrzyk5177]

...and M Schenker's should be the ONLY one to matter. The others were NOTHING before him. Cry babies....

[@Afurthyclays]

I got a Dean V Stealth a couple of years back with the EMGs. I absolutely ADORE that guitar! It plays, feels, sounds, & looks amazing. I wish them the best, but times are getting tough. Some companies can't afford to make bone headed decisions, right now. 🤞

[@Tatted-ne7tu]

I’ve had a few “Dime” versions and I like the Washburn version the most.

[@TheKorfish]

Why is it because they're lighter? Because the Dean MLS are some heavy sobs and I'm not talking tones.

[@abbyreddick8478]

I personally love Dean guitars, I own 5, the rust in peace, angel of death v, angel of death zero, ( Dave Mustaine 😍) the rust in peace I just bought shortly after Dave left Dean. All the Dave Mustaine guitar the sound and feel of them are just wow. As for my other deans I have a dime-o-flame ( I prefer to play my Mustaine) and seriously the 08 model of the Dean vendetta for a cheap guitar it's really not bad ( my first guitar) it has great quality sound and feel.. Long story short I highly recommend the Dave Mustaine guitars especially the v the zero as well

[@nomadronin7361]

Oddly enough I picked up and really enjoy playing a Dean Deceiver F Series guitar. I always wanted a LP styled guitar with 24 frets on an ebony board and a Floyd. The only other company that makes one that I know of is ESP and, for some reason, I just never really liked ESPs necks. The Deceiver's neck fits my hand perfectly. I wish they made more of their other models with 24 fret necks.

[@anthonysthellhammerg4388]

Wow ! All of your guitars and are awesome !I bet the prices of those guitars were not awesome though

[@MrDream-zm1pw]

I picked up the Dean Peace Sells Mustaine model signed by Dave himself at a pawnshop recently for $350 and I agree with you, it feels amazing and sounds great! I hope I can find a Rust in Peace one for a good price.

[@joebikeguy6669]

Didn't Gibson lose an identical lawsuit against Dean about the Flying V shape in England a couple years ago? I think I remember the judge in that case saying that Gibson had taken way too long to sue. I believe Dean had been making the flying V shape for 30? years by the time Gibson decided to sue. Does anyone else remember that case?

[@asherplatts6253]

Gibson should focus on reducing their price point and increasing their build quality. They haven't innovated anything useful since the 1950s, and the IP for body shapes should be falling into the public domain soon regardless.

[@psyche5893]

Gibson is a scummy company, they’re digging their own grave.

[@yeti1002]

I have 4 Gibson's , 2 Les Paul , sg , explorer . Bought these guitars when the prices were reasonable . I'm dirt poor can't afford Gibson's no more . I will buy Dean , ltd , schecter and the esp made in Japan series if the price is right . These company's are making decent to great guitars for the right price $$..even the used guitars is worth looking at Ltd , Schecters and Dean . I'm not a guitar snob , Just my two cents . Hey happy new year 💐💞

[@ryanbobadilla2527]

I just bought a Dean V Select with the quilt top in black and honestly I'm loving it. It's sturdy and a complete work horse. My only negative comment would be the pickups mainly because I'm used to Mick Thomson Blackouts I have in my other "Metal" guitars. I'm thinking of changing the turners to locking turners but that's cause I'm a bit lazy when it comes to changing strings.

[@ronnieparker2546]

Could say same about Fender in 70’s and early 80’s and Gibson 80’s and 2009-2018 . Follow the money. Hilarious!!! Loved “fake lambo” . Dig this channel and your honesty.

[@chrisdaviesguitar]

You failed to mention Michael Schenker?

[@rodrossi9749]

Reading stuff off the internet is essentially bullshit. Kinda like a KZbin law degree. Based on the information on the United States Patent Office site, Rita is wasting money and time. Whether or not the company moves forward from here remains to be seen. Even is very different from his father, unfortunately. I guess we will see what his intentions are soon. I currently own 14 Dean guitars, starting with 1978 all the way to 2021. Couldn't be more happy with every damn one of them.

[@SonOvLaw]

I've always loved the Dean Cadillac, sadly I haven't played one yet that didn't have something wrong with it.

[@BrentIraEnman]

I have 2 that fit and finish are flawless

[@docholliday7777]

I got 1 in 99 still own it I'll love that guitar.

[@XMARGINWALKERX]

I cannot speak to the current state or value of current Dean lineup. That being said I bought a Thoroughbred back in 2016 for less than half MSRP as it was a floor model. I love that guitar. It looks and plays great IMHO.

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

Sammy Hagar played a Dean ML before Dimebag was anything. Not to say bad about him as I think he's amazing but he cannot POSSIBLY own the ML shape. *If someone leaves Gibson who uses a Les Paul.... do they also own the shape if they changed the pickups in their custom model?* That is how I see it.

[@mofomartianp]

Dean Zelinsky was the founder and heart of Dean Guitars, and the reason why Dime, Mustaine and MAB were on the team. When he left and Rubinson took over, things changed for the worse. I personally love my two Dean ML's. One is a 2009 Korea Model that's heavily modded to Dimebag specs, the other is a 2020 Select Series ML with the tobacco burst quilt top, all stock. Both are awesome. I wish more companies would make ML style bodies, it's a really comfortable and playable design.

[@johnnybgood774]

Remember when Dean Zelinsky tried to buy Callahan auto smh

[@rb343]

At this point I'm glad I have a Dimebag signature model lightning razorback left handed FR with the original Dimebag hard case. Good video Max!

[@Vagen_d]

I have thought about buying an ML for years because I'm a huge Dime fan (just like everyone else). Now I have to spend money I don't have because you have scared the hell out of me. Its half an hour later. "Dean Dimebag Far Beyond Driven ML Electric Guitar, Flame Maple Top - Trans Brazilia" is on its way from Pitbull Audio. :| I need a good story for the wife.... I'm open to suggestions. Update: Holy crap I LOVE IT! Why did I wait so long? It feels like it was made for me. All those wasted years of not playing this guitar. Oh the humanity!

[@OddTimeMan]

I have a Dean Cadillac Select and I love it. I've loved those guitars since the late '70s-early '80s when I saw Rik Ocasek and some other guitarists play them.

[@CrushingAxes]

Sad to see a brand like Dean in such a bad shape.

[@Highrollinhunter]

Same I always wanted a Dean Razorback because it's so pointy and brutal sounding.

[@chrislee6914]

Anyway, I love my Cadillac from 2007 with the curved top. Great guitar

[@bobafetty]

I just picked up a Chinese dime slime ml a few weeks ago. It’s really an amazing guitar. I’ve had some nice guitars including a Gibson slash gold top. This Dean is as nice as anything I’ve had. I used to have a first edition Dean From Hell (import) w the Bill Lawrence XL and this new dean is nicer than that. Really blown away by the wood, fretwork , the Floyd rose is proper, the binding is nice and the top looks amazing. Sad that it maybe ending but very glad I grabbed one.

[@AirGuitar]

I thought I read that the Floyd Roses were not as solid on the Chinese imports. That they went out of tune more frequently. Is this not the case?

[@ernielight]

I had a lesson with Rusty at his house at the end of 2018. I told him I noticed he was off Dean’s website. He explained to me what was happening. He was the first to jump ship from Dean!

[@Frip36]

Who is Rusty? Your mechanic? An old friend? Your Uncle Rusty?

[@redrocket9861]

Rusty is his butt plugs Nick name he talks to his butt plug

[@flyfishincrazy]

Rusty Shackelford

[@kpopalypseoppar]

I've been trying to buy Miyako's signature V guitar from Dean for months now but it's been like trying to get blood from a stone. Never had such a huge problem before with trying to give a company my money. Also no dealers in my country will even deal with them. I just gave up and bought the Epiphone Prophecy V instead.

[@luigizanellato2959]

I have one Dean, the Dime Shards Razorback from 2007. It's a great playing, and sounding instrument! I hear the early models where the best built guitars.

[@ryanp7782]

Holy crap, didn't know Michael Angelo or Vinnie Moore stopped working with dean as well, I hate to see this decline cause dean guitars are awesome, love the feel on the necks and the look of the guitars

[@AJ-wh1tw]

I’m sorry to see Dean going this way. I love my Dean basses. You reap what you sow though, and it seems like they spent the last few years not doing right by their artists and that is something an instrument maker shouldn’t be allowed to survive doing.

[@leecollings493]

I agree with the alleged allegations that you brought to the table. Another downfall for that company is the Kerry King signature model. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge, huge Slayer fan and Kerry is every bit responsible for their success, but the outrageous pricing of the full Kerry pro model isn't a best seller just because of the price. Add that to the reputation of the heir of the companies lack of good business skills, and well, you have the fall of what could have been a legacy in the guitar world. Just my opinion here, please don't attack me with negative comments. I am just 1 of many here with a voice, an ear, and my own understanding. My really good buddy owns a Razor Back model Dean and he loves it, to me it sounds like crap, and he has all the bells and whistles with amplification and as well with the guitar. To be honest, I absolutely love the Jackson KV model and actually own an old school Dave Mustaine signature model, and it sounds like the best era of MegaDetH, however, I really think the sound of that band changed with his Dean model. It's never sounded the same... Listen to his guitar work on the old school stuff and then listen to Dystopia. To me, dean has always sounded like First Act guitars... Please don't hate.

[@potatolew4495]

👍

[@CyberChrist]

Plenty of cork sniffers hate Dimebag's tone...

[@blubba4brainsfatnproud272]

Imma hatin on you for the tldr. Go figure

[@Strippable]

I have a Dean V Micheal Shanker edition and a Kerry King BC Rich, both amazing guitars but also both company going down hill

[@Rikamortis6stringer]

I bought a Trans Red Stealth a few months ago and I LOVE IT!!!! SOUNDS & PLAYS AMAZING!!

[@6oundStudio]

i think they should've embrace their legacy instead of burning it. I've got 30th anniversary Dean ML with dimebacker in it. and this thing is a beast.

[@munkycox]

The first guitar I bought with my own money was a Dean les paul copy, Evo I think was the model. It's long gone but I've got a Dean Cadillac hanging on my wall right now. One of the coolest body shapes ever imo, especially with the V headstock. Can't say I'm really interested in any of their newer stuff but it's still sad to see them take such a down turn.

[@Clintthecoolguy]

I wonder what Dean Zelinsky himself thinks about all this. He sold the brand but still makes guitars. He’d probably let you interview him. He seems pretty approachable on his website and social media.

[@thelolguy007]

Great video mate, very well presented. Some good valid points made. I became aware a couple of years ago when Dave Mustaine left (following other artists) and then the Dimebag situation. Seems the CEO Evan is not doing them any favours

[@jessphiliprodriquez7381]

Even Sammy Haggar used Dean guitars. I believe Tracii Guns had a custom Tele style guitar from Dean. Everytime I've seen videos of Tracii he mostly plays Gibson Les Paul's.

[@pfslik]

Traci also had a signature V with Dean. With a Floyd and chrome hardware

[@hellboundTX333]

Tracii endorses Kramer now

[@hughjarrse]

I have a Dean 1982 Flying V and it has a truly wonderful chunky neck

[@marioa19]

Wow Great Video and cool insight on this company. What's somewhat bizarre for me is that I've been eyeing a Dean Flying V guitar for a holiday purchase. I'm not a Metal or Thrash player in particular but man, seeing a few of the satin black V's at my local guitar store has got me in love with them. The thing is with the company going out of biz, does that mean that the used Dean guitar prices are going to skyrocket??? I guess now I'll ask you for a "budget" Flying V guitar recommendation if I can't get a Dean. Merry Christmas Dude!!!

[@wolfgardener9471]

I've got a lovely flame top brizil burst 79 v for sale had it nearly 20 years made in Korea never played,, mint condition,

[@JustPlayItLoud]

Depending on your definition of “budget” check out Schecter. They have a couple V models in the $7-800 range and they are definitely building some great guitars these days

[@CritterEnjoyer]

If you want budget, it's pretty hard to beat the Harley Benton flying v models

[@deadinsidemcgee411]

Epiphone is where it’s at.

[@dragan4658]

Hopefully Dean Guitars won't shut down, I have a Dean Nash Vegas telecaster and it's a very well built guitar, on par with Fender or other high end guitars but lower priced. It even has 2 push pull knobs... Love it!

[@travisbartley58]

I wondered about Dean a few months I contacted them looking for a case to fit my Dean Trans AM. They told me they discontinued the case. Wouldn't been more cost effective if Dean used universal style cases.

[@gitterich]

You guys all only talk about the past. However, there are new young artists who are bringing DEAN guitars to new fame. For example, the Japanese heavy metal guitarist Miyako Watanabe. She plays the following models : 1. DEAN USA ICON FLAMETOP kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHqke4x4qtp-fa8 2. DEAN CUSTOM RUN #8ML SWITCHBLADE kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYm1omSPh8R0Ztk 3. DEAN model V USA Miyako signature model kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2WbgKp9mLlmeNE The guitars sound wonderful, masterfully played like I haven't heard in a long time.

[@NeoRichardBlake]

I have a feeling you're right Max. Dean is gonna become like Peavey is now. That super cheap brand that no one knows who owns it, and people interested in guitars look at and recall, "Hey, I think that brand used to be a thing for a while..."

[@daniellarson3068]

Exactly! The name will be picked up and milked. The Kramer name is now owned by Gibson and they sell some real cheap guitars under that name. It used to be a respected brand. It happens with many manufactured goods.

[@nomadronin7361]

@@daniellarson3068 I agree! Actually, the new Kramer Nightswan isn't bad, though. Not up to the old USA standards but not too far off. My biggest bitch is that they do the typical Gibson thing and don't bother to set them up for Sh!t and even the frets need work, so you have to spend even more after you get one to get it sorted correctly. Just raise the price a little and set it up decently, it will pay off in the end. I've had cheap guitars (Mitchell HD400, thanks for the tip Max!) that was setup almost perfect out of the box. yes, I had to tweak it just a tad to my preference but I didn't have to have any fretwork done.

[@MartinBlasick]

I LOVE pointy guitars. I want more new pointy shapes. Sure I like traditional designs too but blessings to pointy guitar companies. I hope Dean finds their way.

[@rumblemustachegames5439]

I honestly wouldn't be sad to see Dean go. i've never seen a guitar from Dean that I have wanted over another brand.

[@KP-vr6ft]

Great video. I think even if they were lucky enough to power through the lawsuits and internal problems, the guitars they make are in a style that is hardly relevant anymore. It would require such a massive revamp. Kinda like a lot of brands that were great in the 80s but no longer active

[@davidshankle7359]

I was with Dean guitars for many years when Elliot brought me on thanks to my good friend Michael Angelo Batio we played on each other's record I had my own signature 29 fret 7 string flying V things were good when they had the big booth the Dean girls the shows I did autograph signings but things slowly did start to change and I got out of the company probably 5 years before the unfortunate Passion of Elliot times were good very sad when he passed but things change always do and I saw what was happening many years after I had already left the company Due to various reasons but I do hope the best for them as I've moved on with many other people and have my own Of signature guitars coming out through Viper guitars

[@tomsimpson7991]

This was an interesting piece. I have played a newer Dean Strat model at GC. Nice guitar but nothing special. Especially for the price. It doesn’t surprise me at all there are alleged broken promises if you will. Other guitar companies were doing it as well. Not just players but engineers and builders. I know they did not get all was promised either. No company wanted to fall short on landing the next big player or guitar. I’m glad their estates are continuing to fight for what is owed for their contribution to the guitar world. I hope they get what they are owed.

[@che2335]

Long live DEAN!

[@TaylorDanley]

Great video Max! 🙌 let’s hope Dean weathers the storm and makes some more killer pointy guitars in the future.

[@kenbell9094]

Gibson Guitar Company came to the conclusion that they can make more money filing lawsuits than selling guitars.

[@xamislimelight8965]

The Cadi is kinda cool looking, but my experience with Dean can basically be summed up "don't waste your money, it will not last, and you'll want to quit the guitar." I had 3 Vendettas (because i don't learn lessons lol) and that weird EVO thing. They sounded fantastic, I'll give them that much. But that's literally the only redemption they have. The first Vendettas neck broke in half while i was playing in my room. The 2nd one came with an FR system, but the nut plates (or whatever they're called) didn't fit, at all so i couldn't use said trem system. The 3rd kept needing wire work done, and the EVO had the same issue the 3rd Vendetta had. As a Pantera and Megadeth fan, this upset me greatly.

[@johnkirk6980]

I've bought an ml select last year and it's a fantastic guitar that plays extremely well. But there is something wrong with the pickups where one will decrease dramatically in output when switching between the pickups every now and then

[@musicmason]

Have you tried adjusting the height of the pick ups?

[@PastelComGini]

If it's now and then, then I guess you have a switch problem.

[@guitarmainiac80]

Spray the switch out with Deoxit spray. Those switches are little gunked up on some of the imports. Should fix it.👍

[@Cold_Hearted_World]

That happens to mine! I bought a USA Dimebag slime 2020 ML. When I switch to the neck pickup, volume drops and sounds muffled, or only a fraction of the volume of the bridge pickup. I took it to two guitar repairers and they can't find a fault. Did you ever work out the issue? Thanks

[@michaellewis486]

I bought a Dean ML Select 7 back in August. It's really solid, and I was really impressed with the quality (it had no noticeable QC issues or flaws) meanwhile I can't say the same about the LTD M1008MS I bought the same day. I didn't buy the Dean with super high expectations and maybe I just got a gem, either way it's a great axe.

[@thetrendkiller8444]

I currently own 7 Dean guitars and they are all Dime models. I hardly ever play the things and wouldn't own them if they weren't a Dimebag product. They look great on the wall and serve as my little tribute to Dimebag. The ones I own now and the others I've sold are the better of the Dean guitars that I've played but are still far from a top-notch instrument. After the way the little Evan female dog has acted, I'll never buy another Dean from them. Hell, I might remove the dean logo from the ones I have.

[@JC-11111]

FYI Dean still has Dime's Artist page up and running at their website with models still for sale RIGHT NOW, on Dec 13 2021.

[@applesaucebandit7188]

Hey man! Actually I have a Dean select ml quilt top trans brazilia in layaway. I was able to play it at the store over the weekend. Couldn’t believe how well it played… also I’m hoping the dime estate goes back to Washburn. Or someone like Solar or Kiesel

[@libertycabbagemusic]

Aren't all Solar Guitars Made in Indonesia?

[@applesaucebandit7188]

@@libertycabbagemusic I’m not sure, I just don’t want dime going to Gibson

[@justonpatrick333]

Only Dean I’ve bought recently was a Rusty Cooley 7 string. But not new. They haven’t really put out anything that I’ve been wanting outside of a couple USA Dime models like the Dean From Hell. Really sucks to see how the company’s turned out. They were my favorite guitar brand for the longest time

[@brooks9184]

I feel like every guitar company could sue each other for “stealing” the trademark body of particular guitars. It’s pretty stupid and seems to be a Gibson thing to sue because Gibson isn’t popular with young guitarists and has done poorly for a long time now

[@tytantyphlosion2910]

I have a 2006 Dean dime o flame, that I still own to this day. It is my number one, the body is heavy, the tone is massive and aggressive. As for the quality of the modern models, I can’t say the same. I bought Dean from hell in august from guitar center. The neck had a crack behind the neck nut placement, rough frets, and a 3 way switch that was constantly going out. I immediately returned the guitar center. Opted out for a Dean rust Razorback from guitar center. When I got the guitar, the finish had dents in the clear coat finish, a crack in the neck extending from the 15th and 17th fret, the 3 way switch was also going absolutely dead on the bridge pickup. I returned it as well and got my cash back. So no more deans for me. Despite wanting to get a final dime guitar before this contract is completely run dry. But life goes on. Hopefully maybe, possibly, we can see a new Washburn dime model in the future!

[@FrehleyFan3988]

I really hope dean can pull through. I really like their models

[@panagotispatrik515]

I have a Dean flying V made in Korea with Dimarzio SD and its the best guitar i have ever played. Love it. However i care little about Dean guitars and every other major guitar company. As far as i can see Dean cannot put up with the current trends in the market. For example here in Europe, most Dean models are not available etch. Dont know...btw i think Gibson has lost the lawsuits over the guitar shapes in Europe courts.

[@howardcunniffe8738]

I once had a friend who had a Dean acoustic guitar. One day this friend had one of his legs amputated. When he got home from the hospital, he went out to play his Dean guitar in his garage. He went back in the house to use the bathroom and when he returned back to his garage, his guitar was gone. He soon bought another guitar. Not long after that, somebody found his lost Dean in a pawn shop. Not long after he got it back, he died from a blood clot in his heart. I know it sounds sad, but it's true.

[@ReelGoodAudio]

Bought a Dean Select Z (explorer) with the Floyd trem second hand, and it’s been a fantastic playing, sounding, and looking guitar! The only annoying thing with it is lugging the giant case around haha.

[@joeymcmanus448]

I just got a 2013 dave signature zero.but the one I was really impressed with was a dean evo for 200 bucks. It plays fantastic much better than a 200 guitar should. But I'm not a big brand guy I think if it plays good it is good. No matter the price

[@johnsguitarmusicanddemos]

I owned an LTD EC256 and loved it! *Sometimes the cheaper guitars sound just as good as higher end guitars* but I think a lot has to do with the brand of the components. My LTD had generic pickups but they sounded amazing!

[@briansimpson8116]

I love my Dean flying V bass.

[@scotthoward6265]

As usual, very insightful video! The demise of DEAN and other of their ilk is more a microcosm of the industry at large - consolidation is the trend. Just look at the stable of brands truly under Fender’s ownership!! Dean may survive, but likely in name only; it’s only a matter of time before they are gobbled up by an investment firm

[@mrbrocephus3849]

I’m catching up on this video. I’m starting to see new Deans on the shelf. Love it getting better at playing. Looking forward to a new amp and a new Dean. When a company is being attacked like this they don’t have the time to advertise. Dean does owe a lot of money 💰 To Dime, Dave Must even Kerry King, and Static X members.

[@maselbas]

All the Dean guitars I’ve played had incredibly unplayable giant wide necks. Like some budget 80’s guitar you would find at a flea market. As for the new line with the multi scale boards and poplar finishes, just seems like a desperate attempt to stay relevant while a lot of other companies are crushing them in the modern guitar market. I don’t think they will last. Once the boomer generation dies out so will Dean, unless they make some BIG changes and totally reinvent themselves to modern players.

[@Electric.Flamingo]

I actually recently bought a razorback and I really enjoy it. Not the sound self serving or anything, but I did make a video on it on my channel. Anyway , personally after buying that razorback, it made me want to check out more. I very much so want to get an ML.

[@vorpalblades]

The simple fact is Abbott never registered those designs, so he never owned them. No one's fault but his own.

[@ShredworthyDave]

I feel Rita is just looking for a cash grab. She drags Elliot through the dirt in her lawsuit which is pretty insulting and done in bad taste

[@gotnames1]

On the contrary, those designs are trademarked to the Dime estate. The contract with Dean was just to manufacture them

[@terrancefields4414]

Dean brought his first guitars into our shop "Strings & Things" Lincolnwood, Illinois one evening back in the mid 70's. -Our Music store was just west of his guitar repair shop under the L-Track. His prototypes were gorgeous with that signature headstock. He quickly out grew the little shop after the NAMM show at McCormick Pl. shortly after.

[@alexwoolridge94aw]

I think the only time I can remember I wanted a Dean was back when I was a beginner years ago before I truly knew what I needed as a player. Honestly the only one I'd want currently is the Dime signature with the Rebel flag painted on it.

[@knarkill26]

Crazy, my dad got one of the first dean V guitar prototypes back in the 70s playing in a Chicago punk band. Btw he was a lefty but he still loved it. Too bad the head stock broke. I still got the pics though.

[@jasons4553]

I really hope that Dean doesn't go out of business. In my opinion they make some of the highest quality guitars around for the price. I own a Dean acoustic and it is with out a doubt one of the best sounding guitars (electric or acoustic) I have ever played.

[@jim2368ca]

If Gibson was smart the should entertain Michael Schenker and finally give him a signature V since he was a massive Gibson user pretty much all his career. Shake my head they never gave him one, minus the one they put out for Rudy with the somewhat iconic paint job. Michael was way more influential and they missed the boat then.

[@lesterksi4521]

The thing is without these endorsees, no one would buy them

[@blameron8836]

Ordered a Dean Modern 24 recently, got it on sale for about $600. Works great and feels great, but its nothing unique. Just a standard superstrat style that I liked better than all the others. The interesting part was how hard it was to find. I discovered it online and looked around for one to try but the nearest one was ~800 miles away. When I got mine of amazon it had a manufacturing sticker from 2015 on it and was listed as the last one in stock.