DEBATE: Is Muhammed prophesied in the Bible? Dr Michael Brown vs Zakir Hussain

[@ijazthetrini]

My initial thoughts on this debate: • Thank you to both debaters & the organisers, especially MDI for helping set this up and for following it through after several years • Thanks to Ust. Abdullah al Andalusi for organising this Neutral Views: • Both speakers should have had PowerPoint presentations, I spent a lot of time looking up Bible references & interlinear texts to properly follow their arguments • There was a lot of jumping around in the organization of points of argumentation which unnecessarily convoluted some essential claims Contra Br. Zakir: • A neater & more organized opening statement would have helped elucidate his claims. Sometimes it was not clear if he was introducing a new point or qualifying a previously mentioned premise • The brother didn't have to respond to all of Dr. Brown's claims, it took up time that could have been used on more developed rebuttals • Br. Zakir needed to underline the fact that the reason he started off with mention of the New Testament was because it was a means of comparison for exegetical principles used by Christians in finding Christ Jesus in the Old Testament Contra Dr. Brown: • I came away with the impression that he did not want to examine his exegetical principles for the sake of consistency & chose to dismiss or mock points that had serious & overwhelming merit • The "just Google it" answers don't work in a setting like this, it almost seemed as if he lacked motivation to defend his claims & counter-claims • Rarely did Dr. Brown acknowledge that Br. Zakir presented specific claims, with specific exegetical principles, that cumulatively are more coherent & cogent than the New Testament's use of the Old Testament where Christians try to find allusions of Christ Jesus Conclusion: • Some online Christian communities that were interested in this debate allowed a bootleg copy of a professionally organized & moderated debate, to be misused, essentially stealing money from the organisation behind the event. That was gross indecency & ethically disgraceful behavior • Dr. Brown more or less refused to engage deeply with most of Br. Zakir's points by dismissing or denying them. A dismissal or denial of a claim is not a refutation, nor a rebuttal, but a mere response. It seems like some of the pro-Dr. Brown crowd either don't want to acknowledge this or severely misunderstand how arguments work • Br. Zakir's opening statement presented a specific cumulative case using accepted exegetical principles that clearly demonstrated that the Prophet ﷺ is mentioned in some way in the Bible • Yes, the Bible can be corrupt but still have nuggets of truth. In the same way that the demon in the New Testament testified the truth about Christ Jesus (as Christians believe), that one time testimony is the exception to the rule & does not require us to believe everything that demon said Yours respectfully, Ust. Ijaz the Trini.

[@a7mad9999999]

IJAZ jazak allah khayran

[@Ttcopp12rt]

Well said brother... Ameen

[@FazsterHQ]

@@Ttcopp12rt Luke you’re a clown

[@zahidfareed3218]

well said brother

[@faillord3960]

@@Ttcopp12rt why are you saying well said brother when you critique him and mocked him in the past

[@lm8198-b5m]

It's insane to claim that your prophet is in a book you claim is corrupt. Spitting on the Bible only to appeal to it is madness.

[@PEH5806]

Corrupt means you may find true and fabricated statement. One will not say corrupt if something wasn't there at all. Learn before make any unreliable claim

[@JM-19-86]

@@PEH5806 So how do you know the part which is claimed to prophesy Muhammed is not corrupt?

[@PEH5806]

@@JM-19-86 Its easy. Which ever part tallies with the Quran its genuine as the Quran clearly stated there are 4 books mentioned by name which were send to the respective prophet begin with Moses the Torah, David the Psalm, Jesus the Injil ( original name) and last was Muhammad - Al Quran. More easier when we know No any prophets, not a single prophet has taught about trinity except Paul and not even Jesus. So whichever statement that contradict with teachings of all the prophets are confirmed to be false

[@JM-19-86]

@@PEH5806 You clearly have not studied at how the Trinity is prefigured in the Old Testament. See Isaiah 9.6, Micah 5.2 for starters.

[@PEH5806]

@@JM-19-86 Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy about a future child who would bear the government on his shoulders and be called by titles that could only rightfully be attributed to God: “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. Micah 5;2(kjv) But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. These are your two references..What are you trying to tell from this two verses? How do you tie up those statements to Jesus? Does it proof Jesus as God on those two statements? Before you answer, I also would like to know when did Jesus became.a ruler and governing a country or place? When was Jesus becomes King and which place he rules?

[@rda6481]

This is not a debate it’s a schooling by Dr. Brown

[@Randomhandlename]

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

[@rda6481]

@@Randomhandlename you guys are literally delusional! You can come up with better arguments than saying Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible. Come on now! I don’t think you guys know how mind bogglingly stupid this argument is!

[@Mirex-lm5hy]

This is embarrassing for Muslims 😂😂😂

[@motivationking9846]

Even after the centuries Muslims can't find Muhammad in the bible . Cause he's not there . Move on Now . This debate itself is enough for the rational people

[@youwhat491]

Parakletos can apply to arabic AHMAD (Praise more), As the greek word παρα κλητος (κλειτος) can be broken down PARA + KLETOS, PARA also carries the meaning 'over and above' 'in excess over' - Kletos = glorified, famed, praised, the noun form Kleos is given meaning epainos (= Praise) Meaning of Muhammad is found in the greek term Periklutos (Praised all round)

[@TruthIsSalvation]

what say you to "you what" ❓

[@TexasHoosier3118]

@@youwhat491 The text is clear that the Parakletos is God the Holy Spirit. You Muslims just can't stop lying.

[@seaside9670]

Amazing job Dr Brown. Thank you for showing everyone the truth. Brilliant performance. Masterclass

[@Randomhandlename]

What truth? Dr brown got schooled Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

[@Randomhandlename]

3 Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

[@LOEVYEDUBEYS]

Praise God for the lives of Christian apologetics

[@geeze8224]

So many ppl left Islam after this debate . Damn dr brown annihilates him.

[@kate-224]

Really? U r true follower of Paul not jesus

[@feduntu]

@@kate-224 you a follower of mhmd the kiddie fiddler not allah

[@emmytones8311]

Although I agree that Dr. Brown wiped the floor with Zakir and his arguments, please don't use the same unprovable, recycled, unoriginal, and parroted claims that Muslims make constantly... They can't think for themselves, so stay away from that type of argument unless you want to look just as bad as them my brother. I say this in total sincerity, truly.

[@azddine77]

Hhhhhhhhh you are deluded

[@Ak-wv2gw]

Why would people leave Islam because of the bible?

[@dedelinda5272]

Great dr Brown, this is not a debate, but schooling by dr Brown

[@Randomhandlename]

You ain’t schooling no one when you don’t answer questions or address things. We don’t know where and who the Bible came from period

[@servicemabunda3781]

@@Randomhandlename 😊 if u don't know where the Bible came from it doesn't mean everyone doesn't. By the way why are Muslims looking for Muhammad in the Bible? We can officially call Muhammad a rat not a prophet since he contradicted history and the Bible, fed with poison and died, simple!

[@theknighttemplar8177]

​@@Randomhandlename you are crying everywhere 😆

[@Randomhandlename]

@@theknighttemplar8177 your dr brown got schooled, it’s you crying and coping

[@dedelinda5272]

@@Randomhandlename you're funny, your brain doesn't work properly.

[@don1780]

This debate was great, both had their points to say. However, the debate subject was answered well by Dr Brown. Looking forward to more like this in the future. Thanks for posting. God bless you all.

[@Randomhandlename]

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

[@tyh3120]

“The children of Israel “is mentioned 32 times in the Quran, no mention of any Palestinian (= philistin, from the Crète, a white ). The famous verse of peace 5/32, begins by “ the children of Israel “ “ kill one soul as if you had killed all the humanity...” is a copy from the Talmud.

[@SubboorAhmadAbbasi]

Mashallah excellent stuff from MDI as usual

[@Ttcopp12rt]

Alhamdulilah

[@faillord3960]

@@Ttcopp12rt hypocrite 😐with no shame that what you are like your deciver paul who orders you Christians to be jew to jews gentile to the gentiles

[@axis2312]

@@Ttcopp12rt imitation (or in your case impersonation) is the best form of flattery

[@Undisputed_King]

No he lost the debate and embarrassed himself. We Muslims need to stop clout seeking and pulling stuff out of thin air which is not there. Islaam is perfect as it is. Don't change it. Bid'ah is Haraam.

[@youtubeaccount3230]

@@Undisputed_King if u actually learn, the true teaching of Jesus in the bible is that the son of man is to come and establish the kingdom of God on earth that is why he was sent this the gospel writers took from an earlier source which they refer to as the Q gospel

[@juanlmontejo]

I deeply respect Dr. michael Brown, he did great in this debate

[@conociendoelislam85]

Yes! He did it!!

[@abdullahassaffah]

​@@conociendoelislam85 clearly lost

[@israfilangel8062]

When it comes to "showmanship" and eloquence maybe But not the argumentation, he lost the debate though.

[@ReenaZ6569]

Yes, he did it with respect.. Great job Mr. Brown

[@hereweare9096]

@@israfilangel8062 No he did not. It’s only Islam that believes Mohammad is in the Bible. Which I find to be an odd argument. The Quran itself is not enough proof for Mohammad?? It cannot be relied upon alone? It shows the insufficiency of The Quran to state that more is required. The Holy Bible corroborates itself. It’s a book of amazing depth and holy scripture. We see Jesus own words : In fact, if you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. John 5:46 Deuteronomy 18:15 15 Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him. Luke 24:44 44 He then said to them: “These are my words that I spoke to you while I was yet with you, that all the things written about me in the Law of Moses and in the Prophets and Psalms must be fulfilled.” John 1:45 45 Philip found Na·thanʹa·el and said to him: “We have found the one of whom Moses, in the Law, and the Prophets wrote: Jesus, the son of Joseph, from Nazʹa·reth.”

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Donation Appeal 00:16 - Introduction 01:12 - Debate format & addressing the audience 05:12 - Background of Brother Zakir Hussain 05:37 - Background of Dr. Michael Brown 07:40 - Topic of the Debate 08:18 - Opening Statement of brother Zakir Hussain 29:03 - Opening Statement of Dr. Brown 49:27 - Addressing the Audience 50:53 - 1st Rebuttal by brother Zakir Hussain 1:01:36 - 1st Rebuttal by Dr. Brown 1:11:57 - 2nd Rebuttal by brother Zakir Hussain 1:22:42 - 2nd Rebuttal by Dr. Brown 1:32:30 - Starting the QnA _QnA_ 1:35:05 - How does Deuteronomy 33:2 mention Prophet Muhammad ﷺ? 1:36:35 - Zakir's Refutation of Dr. Brown's Temple argument 1:37:51 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:39:40 - Yahweh in the Bible vs Allah in the Qur'an? 1:42:56 - Brother Zakir's Response 1:44:37 - Does Ezekiel 24:21 mention a prophecy against Prophet Muhammad ﷺ? 1:46:14 - Song of Solomon mentioning the name of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ 1:47:16 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:48:47 - Issues with elevating Jesus as God 1:49:47 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:50:59 - Brother Zakir's Response to Dr. Brown on Muhammad ﷺ in the Song of Solomon 1:52:34 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:54:05 - Corruption of the Bible as per Islam 1:55:31 - Dr. Brown's Response 1:57:00 - Analysis of the Holy Spirit in John 16:13 2:00:46 - Zakir's Response about the Paraclete not being the Holy Spirit 2:02:06 - Did Prophet Muhammad ﷺ see Allah ﷻ? 2:04:16 - Dr. Brown's Response 2:05:51 - Translation of God's name from the Old to the New Testament 2:08:27 - Brother Zakir's Response 2:11:04 - Concluding Remarks from Dr. Brown 2:16:29 - Concluding Remarks from brother Zakir 2:18:49 - Closing Remarks 2:21:11 - Wrapping Up

[@WelcomeToTheRezvolution]

Jzk legend

[@asadullahsaaid3794]

​@@WelcomeToTheRezvolution وَإِيَّاك‎ أَخِي 😊‎

[@abdulmalik_al-habeshi]

you are not the hero we deserve but the hero we Need.

[@1a17890]

😁

[@Truthone-l9k]

After all, Allah forgot to say in the Quran, that the name of Mohammad was mention in the Bible.

[@Docpowel]

Thank you for uploading the debate despite that the muslim side lost.

[@amaledward2147]

@manhaju_salaf The Word of God speaks instead of God dude

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

Verses about Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him. Duet 18.18, 33.2 Mt paran or Mecca with 10k, Isaiah 42 of Kedar or Ismael with new covenant matches duet 18, sent to idol worshipers matches Islam, Solomon leaders of 10k he is MUHAMMAD-im ties with duet 33.2, describes the taking of Mecca 8AH. In nt jon 1.21 Prophet after messiah Jesus, jon 14 - 16 God will put His words in his mouth like Prophet like Musa. Mathew 21.43, the kingdom leaves his tribe due to cruci-fiction attempt, to the one of fruits is Ismail in genesis 17. Acts 3.22 also shows this is after Jesus, paul in gal 1.17 went to Arabia as he knew the final Prophet is from there. Dan 2. The Kingdom of God topples Rom and Iran both overtook the tribe of Jesus while Arabs took them... This is Jesus's gospel or good news, Islam.

[@dawoodaisa4788]

​@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 God come in Human body as jesus the saviour. Satan come in form of human as Mohammad. The way you twisted the truth with these verses is so deceiving. The same way satan deceive Eva and Adam twisted God's words. Thanks God my eyes were open and found the truth in jesus Christ. The truth as set me free. Proudly ex Muslim from Arab Republic of Egypt.

[@unityisnottrinity5402]

Brown is a fraud. He says prophet Muhammad not fitting the description and makes jokes about Muhammed "being in the deciples." But if you read John 14-15, Jesus says in the same verses that "I will be in you." Clearly Jesus means his words and teachings, which Muslims follow. Islam is very similar to Jewish teachings. The teachings of prophet Muhammad was the new covanent. The Old Testament God is the same God as the Quran

[@kingcarlos9380]

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

[@DJRoll15]

obviously Dr. Michael Brown was able to prove his points. it doesn't take a biblical scholar to show that Muhammad isn't in the bible. But hopefully this will put these ridiculous claims to rest.

[@abdullahassaffah]

He didn't even respond to a single point zakir made

[@tingoron]

@@abdullahassaffah He did. He also schooled Zakir. Zakir argument make Muhammad as an insult. 😅😅

[@cabletelcontar5440]

​@Abdullah Assaffah did you watch it at all?

[@DJRoll15]

@@abdullahassaffah I know you want to defend Islam, but that is a terrible take lol. It’s so objectively obvious Muhammad is not prophesied in the Bible. Dr. Brown didn’t have to do the debate but he did and wiped the all the arguments away.

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@DJRoll15 do you have an example? Mike tried to defend that Jesus was in Egypt in Mathew and Palestine in Luke for same early years... such nonsense... did he time travel? if no answer you prove bible is flawed. So Quran fixes it.

[@kingsservantapologist]

Loving Michael brown more than ever. Great to see him really enjoying himself while speaking the truth with love.

[@abdullahassaffah]

Your truth of Bible which claims earth is circle and flat and on pillars

[@kingsservantapologist]

@@abdullahassaffah do you believe that Allah descends in the last 3rd of the night?

[@abdullahassaffah]

​​@@kingsservantapologist Imam Abu Hanifah said: "He (Allah) nuzul (descends), without inquiry into the modality of it.” (Sabuni, Aqidatu's-Salaf wa Ashaabu'l-Hadith, 42; Bayhaqi, al-Asmaa wa's-Sifaat, 456; Sharhu'l-Aqidati't Tahawiyyah, 245; Ali al-Qari, Sharhu'l-Fiqhi'l-Akbar, 60) Not in the the same way your God transformed himself into a bird to come to earth or create himself as Jesus human to come earth both illogical actions for our creator Back to topic the descent isn't in the human context it is a attribute of Allah he does as he is like none other his descend doesn't refer to creation descent

[@kingsservantapologist]

@@abdullahassaffah the bible doesn't say he transformed himself.

[@NorwegianKnifeDude]

Well done, Dr. Michael Brown!😁👍 Hope our muslim friends awaken to the truth soon! We pray for you!

[@MishimaZaibatsuCorp]

I think you missed the fact that Brown threw the bible under the bus because he couldn't respond

[@NorwegianKnifeDude]

@@MishimaZaibatsuCorp Where exactly?

[@MishimaZaibatsuCorp]

@@NorwegianKnifeDude the song of songs! Didn't you notice? He simply denied that it was prophesy but argued that it was merely some poem of lovers. And he simply denied the pronunciation of the rabbi's in the audio clip and was utterly shocked when it played because he wished it would stop - huge loss for Brown. On the contrary Zakir shared a ton of references and built a strong argument only to be met with red herrings thrown by Brown who just also did many adhom attacks instead of responding to the points raised by Zakir. Brown was being insincere and inconsistent, it was apparent.

[@MishimaZaibatsuCorp]

@@NorwegianKnifeDude Zakir has re-initiated the conversation of Sheikh Deedat of - Prophet Muhammad ﷺ mentioned in the bible - this is the beginning of a new direction of arguments that Christian preachers must acknowledge because its in their scripture, they have no option but to concede to the amount of evidence presented in this debate.

[@MishimaZaibatsuCorp]

@@NorwegianKnifeDude Mathew 7:23: "Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" Look at the above verse, don't you see that Jesus is addressing the Christians that Brown pointed to in this debate? That will do miracles, cast demons, heal etc.? It's so clear! This is from your scripture!

[@borneandayak6725]

I think Muslim need to rethink their position. Because this debat show us how silly their claim really is.

[@kibriaali2906]

Brown didn't have sound logical answers, if you zoom out of your Christian lenses you could see how he swerves answers from Zakir and the Muslim questioners at the end. Christians emotional tactics will not work on us Muslims, we work on logic since God tells us to use our reason, emotions come after.

[@gurutruthspeak598]

You need to rethink your concept of god and the concept of revelation because the former is illogical, and the latter is corrupt AF!!!😂😂😂

[@anneeq008]

Lol.... You should expand on what "position" you mean..... Because regardless of whether the property Muhammad peace be upon him is in the CURRENT Bible or not. Our central post of faith is monotheism. As was the Prophet Jesus upon whom Allah is pleased. The position you REALLY need to rethink is the trinity when there's not even a slither of textual evidence for in the Bible

[@edward1412]

@@anneeq008 Muhammed claimed that he was prophesied in the Bible. So, if he’s NOT in the Bible, then that should be a major problem for you. Also, being a monotheist religion does NOT mean you worship the TRUE God. A person can claim that he worships one God who is Zeus. Does it mean he worships the TRUE God, YHWH?

[@edward1412]

And oh! For us Christians, Muhammed was the most obvious false prophet ever, so whichever god he came to preach about is also a FALSE god. The TRUE God YHWH does not send BEWITCHED prophets.

[@billy5470]

Imagine starting your opening statement by attacking the NT which has nothing to do with what’s being debated about…. That was already a win for dr. Brown

[@bourbon4707]

Thats Muslims hobby, attacking Bible to prove Muhammad, because Muhammad never exist in the Bible. But we Christian never attack Tanakh because Tanakh talking about Jesus The Messiah

[@ijazthetrini]

Hi Billy, Based on your comment I (with all due respect) don't think you understand what Br. Zakir did or why it was relevant to the debate. I hope that this message reaches you in a good way (for clarity's sake). This debate is about identifying a figure (the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ) who is claimed to be prophesied in the Bible. That means there are three necessary elements which need to be discussed in this debate: 1. How do we identify prophecies in the Bible & what are they? 2. How do we identify figures (persons) who are prophesied in the Bible & who are they? 3. Given that the Bible is separated into two main sections (Old & New Testaments), how do we assess #1 and #2 (above) between these two sections (examining their intertextuality)? This essentially boils down to establishing the exegetical standard with which Dr. Brown already agrees. For points #1 to #3, Dr. Brown asserts that these passages are about Christ Jesus. Br. Zakir in his opening statement merely presented multiple valid examples of the exegetical principles that Dr. Brown already approves of and uses, when it comes to Christ Jesus. Therefore his use of the New Testament was not irrelevant, but rather essential in laying out the i hermeneutical standards & tools that were going to be used by him (Br. Zakir). Br. Zakir is first asking the question, how do we interpret the Bible (what are the tools we both agree on using), then he proceeded to use those tools on the text. So it is inaccurate to claim it (his points about the New Testament), "...has nothing to do with what's being debated about..." I hope that you can reconsider your claim, afterall I know you want Muslims to benefit from this debate, let's try to be fair where we can. Regards, Ust. Ijaz the Trini.

[@neildeakin4454]

@@ijazthetrini So cutting to the chase, is Muhammed being prophesised in songs of Solomon and is Muhammed the spirit of Truth?

[@ijazthetrini]

Hi Neil, It depends on the context just, like how it was presented by Br. Zakir. I certainly do not think that Song of Soloman is about Christ Jesus or the nation of Israel. Is there a point about Br. Zakir's arguments that you wanted to examine?

[@neildeakin4454]

@@ijazthetrini I didn't ask if you thought Song of Solomon was about Jesus, I asked if it was about Muhammed. It's a simple Yes or no answer.

[@iliyajoshua922]

I'm so excited watching you demolished the alleged prophecy of Muhammad in the Bible Dr Brown ❤❤❤ more grace

[@alzabur6330]

Sorry but he didn't demolish anyone,that is your bias opinion, instead he just spew rethoric, he really wanted to make it seems like jews and Christians seem like they agree with each other but that is not true

[@abdullahassaffah]

He lost this debate and couldn't even answer anything he just strawman every question and got caught out

[@joemacarra]

@@abdullahassaffah what debate did you watch😅😅?

[@ivanjuarez1160]

@@alzabur6330 if you don’t think brown won this easily I dare say you are lying

[@zu7t785]

​@@joemacarrawhy are you so bline😢...watch and hear it again and again till you got what they said

[@tranki885]

Zakir had 6 years to prepare just so Dr Brown can make a mockery of him 😂 I hope zakir can recover from this . At least he learned a new lesson .

[@Pipospipo]

yeah that is all they can do Ignore points Mock Lie passion narrative to assimilate emotional weak people shout

[@Yuhanna8.23]

Dr Brown did not mock Zakir. Zakir's arguments mock himself for 2 hours. Perhaps continuing in the future.

[@ilj3168]

@@Yuhanna8.23 Zakir did a great job of embarrassing himself and his religion 👏 Well done!

[@nsha1997]

After listening to this debate, I can say that Dr Brown believes Jesus as God and prophet at the same time. Nonsense. Dr Brown did not answer Zakir's question about " Which servant of Isaiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites from idol worship?" Jesus cannot be a prophet like Moses because he was not a lawgiver as most of his people were still following the law of Moses. It is illogical to make someone who is God and prophet at the same time. Because if the Christians said so, did Moses speak to Jesus on the mountain of Sinai?

[@andrevisser7542]

​@@nsha1997 Yes Jesus said so himself... For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: *for he wrote of me.* John 5:46 KJV

[@thepilgrim1581]

The more I listen to Muslims speak the more I feel that: 'Islam is not the learning of the truth in GOD but rather the delusional training of the mind to think it is the truth in a God'. Peace be unto all the misguided. Only thru JESUS CHRIST can you walk the path towards the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen ✝️ 🙏

[@Khaledf]

Dr Brown : " this is meant for Israelites " 😅 Jesus: " *And I tell you this, that many Gentiles will come from all over the worldfrom east and west and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob at the feast in the Kingdom of Heaven* *But many Israelites those for whom the Kingdom was prepared will be thrown into outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.* ”

[@SimpleReally]

If i wanted utter delusion I'd accept that I am guilty of an unforgivable sin commited by another man long before I was born, and the only way to forgive this sin that is 100% not my fault is for another man that has nothing to do with me to get unfairly killed because reasons. except this sacrifice doesn't even mean anything since the dead guy just revived 3 days later anyway so it wasn't much of a sacrifice at all.

[@Furinkazan541]

​@@KhaledfTell me you never read the Bible without telling me

[@_anti_kuffar_6176]

Michael brown didn't respond to Zakir's arguments . He just dismissed those as baseless . That's not how refutation works

[@reneandjohn]

It seems you did not watch the debate. Just a few examples. Concerning מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים‬, ma-ḥă-mad-dim in Songs of Solomon 5:16 did dr Brown pronounce as well. Dr Brown explained the Hebrew word, the text and the context. It has nothing to do with a name, let alone the name of ‘Muhammad’. The context is a love song, a beautiful young girl (Shulammite maiden) who is in love with a young shepherd bo. So it has nothing to do with ‘Muhammad’. Zakir had no answer for that, he was schooled by dr Brown in a lesson classic Hebrew. Concerning the Paraclete in John 14-16 Zakir was set checkmate by Dr. Brown. Dr. Brown referred to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ said that the Paraclete was with the disciples, and therefore not Muhammad who should come 500 years earlier. Zakir had no answer for that. Dr. Brown referred again to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ also said that Paraclete will be in the disciples, and therefore the Paraclete is not Muhammad. Zakir had no answer for that. About Deuteronomy 18, could Zakir not show one example in which the term מִקֶּ֥רֶב אֲחֵיהֶ֖ם, miq-qe-reḇ ’ă-ḥê-hem ‘from their brothers' is mentioned with another group of people than own countrymen. Furthermore, Dr. Brown referred to Deuteronomy 17, which states very clear that a foreigner is not a brother of the Israelites. Zakir had no answer for that. "you are to appoint over yourselves the king whom the Lord your God shall choose. Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers." Deuteronomy 17:15. So the prophet in Deuteronomy 18 must be an Israelite, no foreigner.

[@Mark-bl5ro]

Actually he responded to every single claim made by Zakir. Watch the debate again.

[@_anti_kuffar_6176]

@@Mark-bl5ro I watch the whole debate carefully and michael brown was just a show man and zakir's point still stand.

[@Mark-bl5ro]

@@_anti_kuffar_6176 Really? So I guess Muhammad is Ezekiel's wife then if Zakir's points are valid!

[@_anti_kuffar_6176]

@@Mark-bl5ro Bro when you wrote that comment you had thought your self to be smart but sorry to say that you are not . It was the most strawman argument from Dr Michael Brown . he did'nt even understand the argument or may be he did'nt want to because of his arrogance . muslim don't say prophet's name was literally mentioned .the word is "forshadowed'. Muslims don't use song of solomon 5 just for " Mahmadim" or " muhammadim" .There are his charecters , physical description and then his name was Alluded which Adds extra to it . And this word "muhammadim" in this exact form is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible . We don't do that for Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) only. we also use that for prophet 'isa ibn Maryam (peace and blessings be upon him) too . Like psalms 91 is a prophecy about Isa bin Maryam where God mentions how he will be saved and in the end his nmane is Also forshadowed as " My salvation" in hebrew "Yeshuah".

[@Yesunimwokozi1]

Mdi shouldn't have uploaded this debate.its embarrassment on your side

[@zillshadow]

Are you sure

[@blueocean5070]

Zakir ate Brown alive, what are you on about

[@blueocean5070]

@PeaceMaker Song of Solomon 2 sounds the same, that it's talking about love etc yet Jews in Talmud said it's referring to the Messiah. Do yourself a favor and read the Qur'an my friend, I know one of us will abide in hellfire forever, and Alhamdulillah, by the will of God it's not me. You heard both sides, now it's on you to do the work. Just start reading the Quran and start from anywhere, you'll realize it can't be the words of a man, let alone an illiterate one.

[@andrevisser7542]

​@@blueocean5070 🤣🤣🤣

[@lemillion2184]

@@blueocean5070are you r*tarted?

[@thangbunaing6885]

What a shame muslims claiming Dr. Brown lost the debate. 😂😂😂

[@trentcheney7441]

Dr Brown was very intelligent and strongly refuted Zakir's sad points.

[@ia6432]

Can you explain brown’s point about Jesus’ words being preserved? This is false but maybe you can explain as it is his key idea

[@trentcheney7441]

@@ia6432 Silly Muslim! It is not false. Jesus words/teachings/actions have been preserved in the Gospels.

[@alizvondhordez4314]

@@trentcheney7441 hehe it's in gospel not bible hehe

[@trentcheney7441]

@@alizvondhordez4314 What are you on? The Gospel is in the Bible.

[@YeshuaSalvationMinistries]

@@trentcheney7441 ahaha, thats what happen when you refuse to educate yourself

[@ozichukwu7]

This is a straight smack down Good job Dr brown Thank you Jesus!!!!

[@Khaledf]

How exactly? Repeating his christian interpretation that jews don't accept and even without judging by objective standard is not called refutation.

[@zakadam154]

eager for a much awaited "smack down" You guys are premature in rejoicing cos it has not happened

[@Observation-ch9hc]

@@Khaledftake the lose😂

[@ryanbeaver6080]

Thank you to both participants! Dr Brown, thank you for such a great debate, you sir did a fantastic job!! 🙏

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was schooled Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was refuted about Deuteronomy 34:10 even in the mazaretic text it’s a prophetic past tense and and rabbis academics say it rules out future prophets from Israel Dr brown was refuted with regards jesus coming.. Acts 3:22 Peter applies Deuteronomy to moses, actually on a plain reading Peter says Jesus is in heaven now and must await there until all things are restored then he quoted Deuteronomy ”for verily moses said” then he quotes Deuteronomy 18, so how is jesus coming back as moses in his full glory as so called “god”? Dr brown says the servant of the Lord can’t be Muhammad because in Isiah 53 the servant dies, actually from Isiah 40 to 53 it’s speaking about two servants, it’s speaking about the suffering servant which is Israel and it’s speaking about a deliverer moreover even the Jewish scholars don’t even take these verses as speaking of the same person Dr brown says hagarhim proves nothing. according to him, the name of prophet Muhammad proves nothing but for yeshua dr brown has to speak about somebody else and say that’s a type for Jesus because he can’t find a direct prophecy As far as Song of Songs goes dr brown tries to play it down but the Jews had a consensus, the Christians had a consensus that this is speaking about the allegorical meaning, the history of Israel, the messiah. All dr brown is doing is mocking all these scholars, why? Because he knows the minute he admits it’s a prophecy, the Muslims will have a field day. (Part 1) …Dr brown misrepresented Zakir when he mentioned the helper was the Holy Spirit, zakir never mentioned the Holy Spirit and all those who laughed, the jokes on them… (part 2) dr brown said it’s Jesus who said it’s the Holy Spirit, based on what? There’s manuscripts that don’t say the Holy Spirit. Christian history shows it was not seen as the Holy Spirit (even Paul was mentioned as the helper) dr brown the remained silent Dr brown says the Quran doesn’t mention yahweh, the pronoun in surah Ikhlas “HUWA” is a shortened form of yahweh then dr brown is challenged to show where Jesus in the Greek New Testament used the word yahweh, Dr brown couldn’t show niether in Greek or the language Jesus spoke and furthermore zakir gave more proof the God of Israel was called “el” before being called yahweh and there’s also biblical scholarship showing even yahweh is connected to canonite god and exodus 6:3 says that Abraham and patriarch didn’t know the name yahweh

[@Mark-bl5ro]

@Find Out Did you watch the same debate that everyone else watched or create another one in your head? Anyway, I'll give you 3 clarifications. * The Israelites and Israelites are cousins not brothers because they share the same grandfather (Abraham). Yes the Edomites would be considered brothers because they're descended from Isaac like the Israelites, but the phrase 'from among your brethren ' usually refers to the Israelites themselves. * When Zakir realised he's losing the debate he tried to change the subject by attacking the New Testament. This is a very common tactic used by Muslims when they start losing a debate. But because Dr. Brown is very intelligent, he didn't fall for it and brought him back to the topic, so he wasn't being 'silent '. * About Muhammad's so-called miracles, you say his miracle is that he talked to God. Did anyone ever witness Muhammad talking to God? And if there were no witnesses, shouldn't that be enough reason for any rational person to conclude that he never did? In truth, if Muslims ever had any evidence that Muhammad was a prophet and that God made contact with him, they wouldn't have to embarrass themselves by trying to find evidence in other people's books using twisted logic. To quote Dr. Brown's words 'can't your religion stand on its own?'

[@tiisetsothandile8420]

Thank God for Dr Brown ✝️❤️ Hopefully Muslims will acknowledge all facts and come to the Father not the deciever/liar

[@Logia1978]

Yes sure: 2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause *GOD* shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe *a lie* . Is there any power in the universe that can prevent that tribe to resist the delusion of your god ?

[@DexterGoldMorgan]

By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me. john 5: 30

[@calebeli6850]

@Logia1978 Why didn’t you quote verse 10 and 12 too. Are you following the example of your god who is the ‘best of deceivers’? Here is the context: 2Thessalonians 2:10 “And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” God sends to them what they themselves ordered, he isn’t the best of deceivers like your god 👍

[@Logia1978]

@@calebeli6850 Why should I quote anything else? Have you quote anything else from the quran to undrestand the context? Of course not... this is what we call the legendary Christian BIGOT double standard... Regardless what you quote, your God is the best of the decievers too because there is NO POWER in the universe that can resist the déception of your God... Case closed...

[@tiisetsothandile8420]

@@Logia1978 No, of course there's no power that can save the Muslim nation & everyone that will believe in the lawless one(Antichrist/Al Mahdi) & he that works miracles by the power of Satan(false prophet/Isa) from the delusions that God will expose them to since they have refused to accept salvation through LORD JESUS CHRIST, and just because God will send those delusions doesn't mean he created them because just as my God sent/allowed Satan to mess with Job doesn't mean he created the desire which was in Satan to struggle with Job but your god; Allah, is a really weird god I don't want to lie🤦🏾‍♂️🕋👎

[@beejay3544]

Muslims with brains will realize how much deceiption and desperation they have been fed all through out...hahahahaha

[@celestialknight2339]

Jews for 2,000 years: “Christians with brains will realize how much deception and desperation they have been fed all throughout…hahahahaha”

[@FazsterHQ]

And Christian’s with brains are all converting to Islam….in great numbers might I add. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t. 😉

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

Muslims 😂😂😂 🙏 😅 You need to repent and be baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit🔥

[@celestialknight2339]

@@JMJ-rb2ze The fact that you childishly laugh, and have practically more emojis than words in your comment, just goes to show how immature and insincere you really are. But just know that God is not blind to anything you do.

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

@jj-yi1ne ok you disrespected me im scared 😂😂😂

[@charlesphilip7308]

Wow that's awesome... Plain and clear @ Dr Brown

[@topguru4318]

Emotional arguments. Brown didn't address the issues. Lost the debate.

[@charlesphilip7308]

@@topguru4318 i differ.. Infact Dr Brown addressed it very aptly. It’s very evident that he stood the debate unarguably and there are no response to his logic and questions..

[@purdess2.040]

@@charlesphilip7308 he didn’t, he didn’t even address Deuteronomy 33:2 or Psalms 84

[@HeLpLOstGOdAny1]

@@purdess2.040 It is impossible to address delusion, your insanity and hallucinations won't save you from facts about life. Islam is a sham: Too many fallacious and erroneous claims about life we have observed, tested and proved to be absolutes about reality for Islam to pass any test, it is a perversion of the observable reality in which we live.

[@praisebrothers1334]

@@purdess2.040 I think you should go thru the video again... It's clearly explained

[@franciseze9531]

Praise Jesus 🙌 for the great wisdom dispensed by Dr Brown. Thank you for this wonderful insight@Dr brown

[@franciseze9531]

@Опровержение I can see you are trying so hard to misunderstand. Listen to the debate again

[@dawoodaisa4788]

Ex Muslim here from Egypt. Dr brown did great job. It was not just debate but also reaching out to the Muslims in the hall to come to the truth. So amazing.

[@jesustv1079]

@manhaju_salaf - who is the prophet mamtaqqim in the same vers of song of solomon?

[@jesusisSLAVEofAllah]

@@jesustv1079 *Prophet Muhammad (Sal)*

[@jesustv1079]

@@jesusisSLAVEofAllah - So Muhammad name is Mamtagim? 🤣🤣🤣 Wether mahamaddim nor mamtaqqim is muhammad. if you say so then allah is a mice because "akbar" means in hebrew mice. And "al lah" means in hebrew oak. Everytime when muslims say "allahu akbar" they say "allah is a mice" or "oak is a mice".

[@Armankhan-gv7xu]

It was a great debate and i am very proud of our brother zakir who was on a absolute fire🔥 mode and did a fantastic job may Allah preserve him and bless him immensely. Aameen

[@ITISFINISHED777]

Jesus said: I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the father but through me. Praise the true and living God for opening the eyes of muslims around the world and accepting Christ as savior before it's too late (I'm one of them) Maranatha, even so come lord Jesus!

[@Khaledf]

You don't follow Jesus. You follow Paul instead.

[@zahidfareed3218]

amazing and pitiful .. how christian accept everything in bible to be inspired word of God.. ignoring convulated history of christianity .. how it was corrupted by imposter paul ... win of pauline christianity over apostelic jewsih christianity ... syncretism of jewsish monoethiesm with greek polytheism... and invetion of tritheistic non sensical doctrine through church and councels

[@antonioorozco4896]

​@@Khaledf and muslims don't follow allah, they follow muhammad.

[@ITISFINISHED777]

@@Khaledf I understand your logic behind that, however Paul pointed to Christ and lead the gentiles to him, Paul was going around killing christians and then Jesus appeared to him on the road to Damascus where Paul then became a disciple & preached the good news all over. It's not too late Khalid, I urge you from the bottom of my heart to seek the true and living God. There is not much time left before the great tribulation happens on earth as it's written.

[@Khaledf]

@@ITISFINISHED777 Paul did not even dare to mention this vision to prove his authority in front of true Jesus' disciples. He was summoned by James and even forced to do a very strict Jewish ritual purification to prove that he wasn't actual teaching to cancel the law of God ( torah) , which Paul did. We know from his letters that paul taught people to cancel the torah. He even described the law of God as "fables of jews" .

[@GloryTheMan000]

Great Lesson from Dr Brown about Biblical text, great to see this happening, need to see more of this non violent interaction,

[@arshanennana]

😂 Great lesson? Didn't he tell you, "go Google it"? Hmmm. Great lesson if your a googlist and study googlology. But people who do real study, Could see, who was the one who was giving "lesson". But sure, see it as you like.

[@zahidfareed3218]

great lesson is to ignore opponents objection and keep on repeating your preconcieved notions that Muhammed is not in the Bible

[@abdullahassaffah]

Christian have a habit when they get caught they change the definition of words in the dictionary to suit them Bible wasn't even written in English either so that excuse further fails

[@filthymouthschoolboymakesi1236]

@@zahidfareed3218 He directly refuted one claim after another. Cope harder.

[@ConquerModernity111]

The Westerner sits and watches in comfort as the Muslim world is occupied, invaded, starved and bombed into oblivion for a century in the name of Liberalism, then has the nerve to talk about violence. If Christians respected their religion and put up any resistance to liberal degeneracy the same would happen to you.

[@east-2-west]

Even though prophet Muhammad was mentioned in the Bible, it is irrelevant whether we prove or disprove his mention. The crowds answered, “This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.” ◄ Matthew 21:11 ►

[@JaySamurai79]

Based of this debate its safe to say Muhammad isn't in the bible.

[@DarkGenova2023]

Obviously you did not watch

[@faizafaiza6524]

🌅Muhammad in The Bible 🌅After Jesus, the last Israelite messenger and Prophet, it was time that God’s promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. {Those who follow the Apostle, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own Scriptures, in the Torah and the Gospel…} (The Quran, Al-A’raf 7: 157) 🌅Bible Prophecies about the Advent of Muhammad Abraham is widely regarded as the common father of the Jews, Christians and Muslims. Through his second son, Isaac, came all Israelite prophets including such towering figures as Jacob, Joseph, Moses, David, Solomon and Jesus (peace and blessings be upon them all). 🌅The advent of these great prophets was in partial fulfillment of God’s promises to bless the nations of earth through the descendants of Abraham (Genesis 12:2-3). Such fulfillment is wholeheartedly accepted by Muslims whose faith considers the belief in and respect of all prophets an article of faith. 🌅Blessings of Ishmael and Isaac Was the first born son of Abraham (Ishmael) and his descendants included in God’s covenant and promise? A few verses from The Bible may help shed some light on this question: 🌅Genesis 12:2-3 speaks of God’s promise to Abraham and his descendants before any child was born to him. 🌅Genesis 17:4 reiterates God’s promise after the birth of Ishmael and before the birth of Isaac. 🌅In Genesis, chapter 21, Isaac is specifically blessed but🌅 Ishmael was also specifically blessed and promised by God to become “a great nation” especially in Genesis 21:13-18 🌅According to Deuteronomy 21:15-17 the traditional rights and privileges of the first born son are not to be affected by the social status of his mother (being “free” women such as Sarah, Isaac’s mother, or a “Bondwoman” such as Hagar, Ishmael’s mother). This is only consistent with the moral humanitarian principles of all revealed faiths. 🌅The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham’s son and “seed” and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham’s wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3 🌅After Jesus, the last Israelite messenger and prophet, it was time that God’s promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600 years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God’s blessing of both of the main branches of Abraham’s family tree was now fulfilled. But There is additional corroborating evidence that The Bible did in fact foretell the advent of Prophet Muhammad

[@faizafaiza6524]

🌅 Was the Shift of Religious Leadership Prophesied? 🌅 Following the rejection of the last Israelite Prophet, Jesus, it was about time that God’s promise to make Ishmael a great nation be fulfilled (Genesis 21:13, 18) 🌅 In Matthew 21:19-21, Jesus spoke of the fruitless fig tree (A Biblical symbol of prophetic heritage) to be cleared after being given a last chance of three years (the duration of Jesus’ ministry) to give fruit. In a later verse in the same chapter, Jesus said: 🌅“Therefore, say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruit thereof” (Matthew 21:43). That nation of Ishmael’s descendants 🌅(the rejected stone in Matthew 21:42) which was victorious against all super-powers of its time as prophesied by Jesus: “And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken, but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder” (Matthew 21:44) 🌅Out of Context Coincidence? Is it possible that the numerous prophecies cited here are all individually and combined out of context misinterpretations? 🌅Is the opposite true, that such infrequently studied verses fit together consistently and clearly point to the advent of the man who changed the course of human history, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)? 🌅Is it reasonable to conclude that all these prophecies, appearing in different books of The Bible and spoken by various prophets at different times were all coincidence? If this is so here is another strange “coincidence”! 🌅One of the signs of the Prophet to come from Paran (Makkah) is that he will come with “ten thousands of saints” (Deuteronomy 33:2 KJV). That was the number of faithful who accompanied Prophet Muhammad to Paran (Makkah) in his victorious, bloodless return to his birthplace to destroy the remaining symbols of idolatry in the Ka’bah. Says God as quoted by Moses: 🌅“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:19)

[@savedbythesavior3718]

Hallelujah mighty warrior for Christ! God bless you dr , the lord Jesus Christ is Lord forever! 👑

[@theboy4623]

I really enjoyed this debate, i wish it was in a more longer format

[@jundean5292]

Yes. It would have been better with atleast one more rebuttal period

[@gurjeetdeol6291]

Christian won this debate, unequivocally there is no prophecy about Muhammad in the bible. Well done dr.brown

[@axis2312]

"Paul quotes from Greek poets". Thank you Dr. Brown, for confirming Paul is a heretic.

[@axis2312]

@Jesus or Muhammed I would facepalm too if a self-proclaimed 13th apostle never met or quoted my "God and saviour"

[@stoispapi2380]

For sure.

[@axis2312]

@H K Phooey oh we pivoting to Islam because we can't refute valid claims?

[@FazsterHQ]

@H K Phooey Christian’s are quick to become atheists and hide their faith when they get face palmed.

[@axis2312]

@H K Phooey but as an atheist or agnostic you take the words of scientists as gospel when they have no empirical evidence or plausible explanation for the creation of the universe and what's therein, so why do get to come and lecture us

[@dasdrei5059]

Clearly Dr. Brown was the winner of this debate on every level. The facts of the scripture and the historical evidence was overwhelming that Zakir was outmatched and in over his head. Zakir stands in contradiction to reality and the truth of God’s very word.

[@Zwemer100]

Dr Brown nailed the Muslim apologist. It was embarrassing to see such arguments from the Muslim side.

[@jundean5292]

Donr you believe it was Jesus that was nailed? Brown convinces you with empty speech?

[@danielhunter1773]

​@@jundean5292Jesus was. But zakir is still nailed😂😂😂

[@ArmondScipione]

Jesus is Lord and God. Great job from Dr Michael Brown 🙏

[@Kabir8123]

Jesus (pbuh) is not GOD, he had a GOD and said worship GOD ALONE!

[@ArmondScipione]

@@Kabir8123 John 20:28, Thomas said to Jesus (singular), my Lord and my God. Thomas said two things to one person and the only way to say otherwise is to break the rules of basic grammar.

[@wisdomofislamm]

@@ArmondScipione Jesus literally said "Father is only true God". "I am going to my God" "Why are you calling me Good? Only God is good"

[@ArmondScipione]

@@wisdomofislamm Talk about taking a verse out of context. In John 17:3: Jesus was praying to the Father and saying that yes, the God of Israel is the only true God. AND THEN TWO VERSES LATER in John 17:5 Jesus goes on to say that he was with God, in Glory, before the world was created! Just as John 1:1 says that Jesus was with God in the beginning and that Jesus WAS God.

[@wisdomofislamm]

@@ArmondScipione 🤣🤣🤣 "God of Israel". You Christians are so pathetic and shameless. You have no shame whatsoever in changing and adding words into bible. Where does it say "The God of Israel is only true God in John 17:3?! 😄 you changed verse just like St. Augustine. Plus John 1:1 says Word was with THE God and word was a god (not THE God). Learn difference. I clearly see you have many thing to learn. Go back to basics

Great work Dr. Brown, this is how christians should defend their faith. May God Bless you and also bless all muslims to follow the truth (J E S U S)!

[@Jesus-The-Everlasting-Father]

Amen, hallelujah. Waiting on the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

[@TruthIsSalvation]

@@Jesus-The-Everlasting-Father Israel will refuse him a visa

[@SicilianusThomismus]

This was not a debate but a lesson for zakir

[@chuck1t700]

Coming from a clown who's subscribed to Abdullah Sameew 💀💀💀

[@SicilianusThomismus]

@@chuck1t700 so you gonna say me this was a win for zakir?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@muhammadansarahmed6039]

@@SicilianusThomismus no mole fol kilstians... Sameeal heele 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tranki885]

Zakir Retired

[@greenhomestead6305]

you Christians are all about feelings and emotions, not facts or logic. One person is citing numerous scholars of Bible and historians (Zakir),while the other guy is preaching to your feelings without backing his claims (dr brown). It’s like the people who still wear a mask despite all scientific data showing it doesn’t prevent anything, lol.

[@hernanifigueiredo6065]

MICHAEL BROWN JUST SCHOOLED HUSSEIN. I BET YOU YOU HUSSEIN NEVER GONNA PICK THIS TOPIC.

[@trevinowens70]

Zakir was off topic. The topic was Muhammad in the Bible. Not if Jesus is God. DR Brown won this. You Muslim are salty 🧂

[@purdess2.040]

Your deluded, zakir gave the double standard and set the standard early snd broke christian arrogance early so they could actually comprehend and understand his points. Brown didn’t even address many of zakirs points while Zakir throughly refuted everything. Stop being arrogant and prideful. Zakir took the W brown got another L.

[@nsha1997]

Where did he discuss of Jesus is God? U clearly didn't listen to the whole debate.

[@trevinowens70]

@@nsha1997 Where is your head at Dr Brown won this, no debate. Dude couldn’t stay on topic. Is Muhammad in the Bible? The answer is no. Dr Brown use showed us the Hebrew meaning behind the words. and went over the scripture multiple of times. The helper is the Holy Spirit. He use the letter of Paul and the gospel and the Old Testament, to prove the point. Muhammad is no where in the Bible. In Ezekiel 24:16, Ezekiel's wife is called "machmad," because she's treasured by Ezekiel. So if machmad means "Muhammad," Muhammad must have been Ezekiel's wife! Is that what any Muslim believes? Of course not. So why do Muslims keep telling us that machmad means "Muhammad"?

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@trevinowens70 You are a typical Christian. The argument is not because the name is the same. You completely misrepresented the argument. Brown accepts fabricated and distorted passages in the NT as prophecies about the OT. He has no objective standards. He was a complete joke in the debate.

[@geoffreybrockmeier3765]

@@alonzoharris9049The Bible therefore gives prophecy of Dr. Michael Brown, since the name Michael is mentioned numerous times in Hebrew Scriptures as well.

[@6BarcaXavi]

1:07:42 is the crux of the debate. It's really amazing how far some people are willing to go in twisting the scripture, in order to fit Muhammad in the Bible. If this is so crucial to your faith, yet requires an insane level of lies/self-deception, what are you even doing?

[@amd1706]

I thought you were talking about the author of Mathew when he twisted the scripture of the OT.

[@6BarcaXavi]

@@amd1706 so you admit Muhammad is not prophecied in the Bible and now try to attack it instead. Gotcha.

[@amd1706]

@@6BarcaXavi When have I admitted that? You put words into my mouth similar to the gospel authors when they quoted the OT.

[@princessanineveh]

​@@amd1706 well that's what the christians pagan do, they even put their words into their own bible.

[@faillord3960]

@@6BarcaXavi let me tell you a thing you foolish individual we don't need to prove in your baseless books that the prophet Muhammad is sent from God the brothers are doing it as a secondary effort for them to test themselves against ignorant Christians missionarys call it a training that's all it was never a requirement

[@terrence7354]

Thanks this video because my family now in Canada, converted now in Christianity, because of this video 😇 Jesus christ loves us ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Ihatewomen123]

lol yeah right

[@Docpowel]

Halleujah praise God

[@neilbeyers9786]

Good news Terrence and an encouraging post.

[@efdawahfan]

which version ?

[@devadasn]

@@efdawahfan there are 29 versions of the Quran. 😂

[@Gopal-ze4rr]

It was totally one sided. Like Dr Brown said it should never have been a debate. The Muslims' position was utterly destroyed

[@purdess2.040]

Zakir won easily and he just made a 5 hoir stream where he completely further destroyed brown and exposed his missionary tactics.

[@ChristianTableTalk]

Thank you for uploading this video. It was a wonderful & respectful conversation both sides. I pray God will open the eyes to see the truth

[@theg-men8961]

@Опровержение even if we say that you are correct and it is not Jesus, the prophet like Moses is still not muhammad. He never spoke in yaweh’s name, he did no miracles, he did not talk to God face to face. So it’s not Muhammad. Jesus is God and he came down and took on the form of a servant. You saying God cannot serve anyone means that God has limitations. How can you place limits on what God can and cannot do? It’s like a boss at work that comes and does the work of his workers. He does not have to do it but he does it because it’s necessary and that’s what Jesus did. And to get on the topic of Jesus, Jesus was a Jew and was presented to a Jewish temple, not a mosque or the Kaaba. This is a historical fact that Jesus was a Jew and not a Muslim. Jesus committed shirk over and over again. He said he’s one with Allah. He said his kingdom is not from this world. Is he an alien? No. He is God and heaven is his kingdom. He says he will answer our prayers. That he is lord of the sabbath. He said anyone who sees me sees Allah. That’s shirk so how could he be a prophet of Allah? Either he’s the worse prophet of Allah because he commits shirk, or, it’s because he’s not a Muslim and that’s the answer. It’s complete nonsense to include Jesus in islam and no one ever did until Muhammad. Muhammad simply tried to appease Jews and Christian’s to get them comfortable with converting and when he failed, he attacked them. He even included pagan Arab practices to appease the pagans so they convert which is why he allowed the prayer to allahs daughters and then said the devil tricked him. Allah was a pagan god and you can Google Allah statue and statues of allahs daughters and you can find what archeologists found. Muhammad was simply trying to make it easy to convert the people around him but had to make his religion a little bit unique.

[@YouYou-sm8tf]

​@manhaju_salaf Jesus is God but He is The Son. Jesus worshipped and was a servant of His Father who is God as well. God is One but have 3 different members and each member is Divine.

[@upondivineguidanceorder2548]

@@theg-men8961 In the Old Testament, Genesis, 21:21 it is said: "He (Prophet Ishmael) dwelt in the Wilderness of Paran; and his Mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt." Psalm 83: 4-6 talks about the enemies of among others Ishmaelites, and Hagrites (Hagar being the mother of Prophet Ishmael). Psalm 84: 4-6 "4. Blessed are those who dwell in your House; They will still be praising You. 5. Blessed is the man whose strength is in You, whose heart is set on the pilgrimage. 6. As they pass through the valley of Baca. They make it a spring; The rain also covers it with pools." There are several interesting points in the above verses. The name Baca could be Hebrew whereas the word Makkah is Arabic. Added to this the fact that there is a designated House of God built by Abraham, peace be upon him, in Makkah where yearly pilgrimage was performed from the time of Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them both, even to this day. The valley of Baca could indeed be the same as the valley of Makkah. The above verses seem to place Hagar, Ishmael and their children in the valley of Makkah where Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing of God be upon him, was born. Isaiah, 21:12-17 mentions "12 ... In the forest in Arabia you will lodge ... 15 For they fled from the swords , from the drawn sword, from the bent bow, and from the distress of war." (Probable connection with the enemies mentioned in Psalm 83: 4-6 quoted above; also settlement in Arabia is confirmed; the verse 16 which follows, also confirms these verses are about Ishmaelites, Kedar being the 2nd son of Prophet Ishmael). "16. For thus the Lord ... all the glory of Kedar will fall. 17. And the remainder ... people of Kedar will be diminished ... " Isaiah 42:1-13 - These are very moving verses about "God's elect servant" who will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. A point worth noting is that Gentiles are the non-Jews and it was confirmed by Jesus, peace be upon him, that he was sent to the Jews. Moreover Muhammad, peace and blessings of God be upon him, is consistently named by God as Mustafa which means 'elected' and 'Abd' which means 'servant'. Prophet Muhammad always referred to himself consistently as the 'Servant of God'logically speaking, if I wanted to ask about the place where any famous historical figure lived, the most correct information I shall get would be from this figure’s people or tribe and offspring, for they would be the ones most knowing of his history. If I wanted to learn about Queen Elizabeth, where she lived and where she was buried, I would ask the English people, not the Chinese. Since Ishmael P.B.U.H. was the father of Arabs and one of the most famous figures in their history, therefore the Arab tribes are the ones who are most knowing of the place where he lived, not anyone else. As inherited by all Arab tribes, even before the advent of Islam by centuries, Ishmael lived and died in the place they call “Makkah,” and he built the sacred mosque there with his father Abraham at the sanctuary called “Bakkah.”Blessings of Ishmael and Isaac Was the first born son of Abraham (Ishmael) and his descendants included in God's covenant and promise? A few verses from the Bible may help light on this question: Genesis 12:2-3 speaks of God's promise to Abraham and his descendants before any child was born to him. Genesis 17:4 reiterates God's promise after the birth of Ishmael and before the birth of Isaac. In Genesis, Ch. 21, Isaac is specifically blessed but Ishmael was also specifically blessed and promised by God to become a "great nation" in Genesis 21:13,18. According to Deuteronomy 21:15-17 the traditional rights and privileges of the first born son are not to be affected by the social status of the mother (being a "free" woman such as Sarah, Isaac's mother, or a "Bondwoman" such as Hagar, Ishmael's mother). This is only consistent with the moral and humanitarian principles of all revealed faiths. The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham's son and "seed" and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham's wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3. After Jesus, the last Israelite prophet, it was time that God's promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600 years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God's blessing of both of the main branches of family tree was now fulfilled. But is there additional corroborating evidence that the Bible did in fact foretell the advent of prophet Muhammad?The Awaited Prophet was to Come from Arabia Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (probably the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Makkah). Indeed the King James Version of the Bible mentions the pilgrims passing through the valley of Ba'ca (another name for Makkah) in Psalms 84:4-6. Isaiah 42:1-13 speaks of the beloved of God. His elect and messenger who will bring down a law to be awaited in the isles and who "shall not fail nor be discouraged till he have set judgement on the earth." Verse 11 connects that awaited one with the descendants of Ke'dar. Who is Ke'dar? According to Genesis 25:13, Ke'dar was the second son of Ishmael, the ancestor of prophet Muhammad. Muhammad's Migration from Makkah to Madinah: Prophesied in the Bible? Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man (an Oasis North of Madinah according to J. Hasting's Dictionary of the Bible), and the holy one coming from Paran. That holy one who was under persecution migrated from Paran (Makkah) to be received enthusiastically in Madinah was none but prophet Muhammad. Indeed the incident of the migration of the prophet and his persecuted followers is vividly described in Isaiah 21:13-17. That section foretold as well about the battle of Badr in which the few ill-armed faithful miraculously defeated the "mighty" men of Ke'dar, who sought to destroy Islam and intimidate their own folks who turned to Islam.

[@wisdomofislamm]

@@theg-men8961 So much nonsense in one comment. Even atheists have better knowledge about God than christians like you. 1) Jesus never spoke in yaweh's name either. And Zakir literally answered this question in debate. I don't think you even watch debate. 2) Prophet Muhammad ﷺ did not do any miracles?! You must be idiot to say this. We have his 300 miracles recorded in hadith. Educate yourself. 3) He did talk with God face to face. 🤦‍♂️ he literally went to heaven and spoke with God face to face. 4) saying God can't do certain things is putting limitations to God? Seriously? Let me ask question, dummy. Can God cease to exist? Can God do sin? Can God lie? Can God be all hate and zero loving? 5) We don't accept your books. Quoting your corrupted text to show Jesus Christ wasn't Muslim to Muslim is insane stupidity. 6) You are waffler. We call people like you arrogant ignorant. You don't know anything yet you claim many things. Kid go back to home. Class dismissed

[@kd12342]

@@theg-men8961 well explained brother. But there is one flaw... Jesus said anyone who sees me sees the Father* and not Allah. Don't get mistaken by any means that Allah means God. Allah is satan so don't substitute our scripture's words God and father with Allah.

[@wolfenhauz]

A great debate. Shame it became so polemical and wasn’t just allowed to be shown (instead of shotgun posting elsewhere) on the MDI channel as is their right to do so. I say this of course as a Catholic. Such “gotcha” desires are not at all how religious people should treat each other. I pray both sides benefit from this interaction. I wish all my Muslim friends and companions a blessed Ramadan.

[@reralt]

Brother are you and your family ok ? Activities on your channel abruptly stopped. I was wondering the other day about what happened. May Allah make it easy whatever you are going through.

[@wolfenhauz]

@@reralt I’m gonna resume this week probably. Went through some more health scares and issues getting medical care for that. I did do a couple streams on others channels but I’ve been too tired to do anything else.

[@wolfenhauz]

@@seaside9670 did SOCO have rights to the video? Did they host the event? Did they do the legwork to connect the debaters? Did they pay for the venue? Did they pay for food and housing of either of the debaters? Did they provide any of the tech for the debaters or any of the infrastructure?

[@seaside9670]

@@wolfenhauz you said that the MDI was prevented from showing it on their MDI’s channel. That is not an accurate statement. That statement is a lie to cater to the Muslims. Also what Soco did was not a gotcha not sure how you can define it as that. They were not aware that MDI wanted to post first. I doubt you are Catholic. You laughed at the Trinity on Hamza’s den. To me you are very much in the vein of « open minded thinker » who used to call himself « open minded Christian ». A wolf in Sheep’s clothing.

[@iliasalmaudi8365]

As a hypochondriac I can def empathize with you bro ! If you need any help please feel free to reach out. Someone somewhere most likely have been through similar situations so building bridges helps us find ways to benefit from what God Blesses us with in forms of acquaintances and provisions.

[@Jamesjacob339]

Well done Michael brown. I don't think any Jews will agree that Muhammad is prophesied in the Hebrew Bible.

[@kate-224]

I dont think any jew will agree with brown that Jesus is god

[@Jamesjacob339]

@@kate-224 Messianic jews will agree that Jesus is God. Only Anti missionaries will reject this. Can you name any one jew who explicitly mentioned that Muhammad is prophesied in the Hebrew Bible?

[@seaside9670]

@@kate-224 thé Jews who agreed that Jesus is God became Christian. The Jews would never agree that Moe was a prophet. The Jews wouldn’t agree Moe was from the line of Abraham. The Jews wouldn’t agree to any rendition of the twisted Quranic accounts of biblical events.

[@hajarislam2917]

​​@@kate-224 correct. Only christians who give themselves the "jew" worshipping jesus title or the messianic jews title agree but are just man-god worshippers while the real orthodox jews are not.

[@samuelmithran5586]

​@@kate-224 unfortunately for you there are

[@jhun895]

With this debate everything was very clear that muhammad was not prophesied in the bible. many muslim for sure will turn to Jesus become his follower

[@ia6432]

Rasul ﷺ is CLEARER than the Jesus Christians believe in

[@summer5145]

All Brown did was use very convincing language and tone to assert that Prophet Muhammad pbuh is not in the Bible. He didn't address Zakirs specific points. He wasn't able to tell the audience who is 'that prophet' from John chapter 1 who is identified as being separate from Christ. Neither was he able to tell us who was the Messenger of the Nations. If Jesus is God then how can he also be a messenger. Christians try to swing it both ways when it suits them. Was he God was he the son or was he a messenger. Which is it?

[@amaan.23]

Muslim's see Jesus as a prophet

[@pauloli4341]

Not only bible, but every other scripture given to prophets also should foretell the future messengers. Even hindu scriptures have references.

[@Randomhandlename]

You must not be familiar with Isaiah 42

[@Ask-Isa]

Brown absolutely crushed it this debate. It wasn't because Zakir is bad at debating. It's because the Bible is so void of Mohammad that the only way you could ever insert him into the Bible is by connecting dots that don't exist. When Zakir realized he wasn't going to win he tried switching the debate to the reliability of the Bible. Easy victory for Dr Brown

[@hamzazulfi]

Oh so that's why John and Matthew invented Jesus stories? Nice try though.

[@SoldierOfTheDeen]

Let's see if you've actually understood what brother Zakir said or if you're just doing damage control because your teacher got exposed. At 26:12, brother Zakir mentioned the prophecies of Daniel 2 and 7, what are the four kingdoms which precede the Kingdom of God in Daniel 2 and 7 according to the consensus of classical Jewish and Christian scholars and what was the fifth kingdom (i.e. the Kingdom of God) historically?

[@HVArctiC-Monkey]

Kinda ironic of him, trying do disprove the proof he used for his argument

[@calebeli6850]

Daniel 2 and 7 refers to Babylon, Medo-Persian, Greece, Rome, and then Papal Rome during the period of the divided fourth kingdom. Christ’s kingdom comes after their rule. However it needs to be made clear that Christians aren’t slaves to scholarly opinion. The scriptures speak for themselves and the basis for the understanding of the prophecy is in the Bible itself. Not all scholars agree on the identity of the kingdoms particularly from the divided kingdom period anyway. And all of this bears no relevance to the obviously false prophet muhammed being in the Bible or not. This a false distracting challenge as knowing the kingdoms of Daniel 2 and 7 contribute nothing to the subject at hand!

[@unmaskingtruthophobes7729]

Great speech Michael brown 🤎

[@powningatheists7987]

Islam takes another "L" - hard to get a "W" when the thing is based on lies and deception since its beginning.

[@MrTruthing]

I feel sorry for our precious Muslim contacts that they are forced into having to find passages in the Bible to justify the Qur'an's statement "Mohammad is found in the Bible". For Muslims to therefore having to take Scripture out of context in what clearly are embarrassing ways, is painful to watch. My prayer for Muslims is to wake up, to see the truth (Jesus as described in John 14:6) and to have the courage to follow it , no matter what the cost will be.

[@faillord3960]

Let your paganism for you

[@aminaaden2921]

Take your own advice if you are sincere. The truth aint hostage for you people's whims.

[@SoldierOfTheDeen]

Let's see if you know the bible. At 26:12, brother Zakir mentioned the prophecies of Daniel 2 and 7, what are the four kingdoms which precede the Kingdom of God in Daniel 2 and 7 according to the consensus of classical Jewish and Christian scholars and what was the fifth kingdom (i.e. the Kingdom of God) historically?

[@calebeli6850]

Daniel 2 and 7 refers to Babylon, Medo-Persian, Greece, Rome, and then Papal Rome during the period of the divided fourth kingdom. Christ’s kingdom comes after their rule. However it needs to be made clear that Christians aren’t slaves to scholarly opinion. The scriptures speak for themselves and the basis for the understanding of the prophecy is in the Bible itself.

[@runimcomingforyou.4505]

John is the latest and most evolved of the Gospels. You Christians always depend on John, that's what real corruption looks like.

[@sbd7589]

Hands down, Zakir totally schooled Dr. Brown. May Allah accept this from you brother Zakir and reward you immensely.

[@dibarra5461]

Zakir barely responded to any refute from Dr. Brown about Muhammad. He went straight to attacking Jesus and the New Testament. And the few refutes he did were immediately destroyed by Brown. Zakir only made himself look bad.

[@jundean5292]

​@@dibarra5461 stop joking. Zakir responded to nearly everything and got "just google it" in response

[@dibarra5461]

@@jundean5292 Did you even bother to see the Debate? Zakir didn't say anything about Brown's refute of mentions of the context in Deuteronomy or Exodus about the Prophet being from Israel's tribes. He didn't respond about the other mentions of the word "Machmad" in the Bible which he dumbly says refers to Muhammad, he didn't refute how the whole New Testament talks about the Holy Spirit being the one sent after Jesus and stayed to one single verse. He didn't address the whole context of the chapters he quoted from and Dr Brown kept telling him to read fully. Zakir had no single point over Brown

[@jundean5292]

@@dibarra5461 it seems you had wax in your ears when zakir spoke. Zakir trapped Brown on brethren in deuteronomy when he asked him to explain the brother and foreigner in deuteronomy 24. He asked this twice and brown didnt respond. And you guys are so brainwashed that zakir played 2 jewish audios of song of songs and yet you guys are still convinced by Brown who missed a VOWEL out while saying the word Mahadim

[@MishimaZaibatsuCorp]

​@@dibarra5461 Brown's NEW nightmares: 1. The Paraclete 😢 2. The song of solomon! 😮 3. Bible corruption exposed 😅 4. Rabbi's reciting "Muhammad'im" Trinitarian's /Trimurthi's nightmares! 😅😅😅 Brown got roasted into Hash-Brown

[@mathWisdom408]

I really left Islam, Glory to Jesus!

[@savedby_grace6110]

Aleluya!

[@servantofjesuschrist839]

@@_Conservative__Muslim LOL how many what🤣

[@servantofjesuschrist839]

@@_Conservative__Muslim I am Christian never been muslim but Ive never seen such a silly question

[@servantofjesuschrist839]

@@_Conservative__Muslim Wudu itself does not involve any rak'ahs (units of prayer).

[@mathWisdom408]

@Sani-Malik listen, where I live 100% people are muslims, why do I need to lie?!, so I do not follow your stupid taqqiyah

[@namorxx9679]

Dr brown was strong!

[@Randomhandlename]

Weak! He doesn’t answer questions and stays silent we don’t know where and who the Bible came from it has contradictions and errors

[@avonsterling36120]

​@@Randomhandlename youre a waffler do you want to debate whats your discord

[@Randomhandlename]

It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent Dr brown never answered about Ishmaelites taking the land from Nile to euphoraties with the coming of Muhammad Dr brown was exposed in the end when a clip of a verse being recited in Hebrew by Jews reciting as mahamadim which dr initially said is not a correct pronunciation Dr brown was refuted about Jews praying to jarusilum, Muslim uses to pray that direction then went back to praying to ancient house Kaaba, dr brown remained silent Dr brown said Zakir added to the Bible in Deuteronomy 18 but didn’t say where or how then remained silent Dr brown was refuted asking if Muhammad had a primary mission to Israel? Prophet Muhammad came to renew the covenant with Israel and dr brown mentioned the servant would go to China, well guess what the Muslims in the 7th century reached from the border of China to border of France and wherever the servant’s mission goes, the primary people who should come into the knowledge of God are the ishmaelites. So who brought the ismaelites out from idol worship and paganism? It was the Muslims and dr brown admits this in his book then dr brown remains silent Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation

[@Randomhandlename]

Dr brown contradicted himself when he mentioned Deuteronomy 24 and mixed brothers of the nation and brothers within the nation Dr brown was refuted about the words “from within you” none of the older texts say what the addition later on says, as the scholars mention it was an addition. Dr brown was never able to answer concerning older texts (Part 1)..Dr brown initially never answered the rebuttal about servant coming after the second temple.. (part 2) the interpretation that dr brown gave was being twisted, hagai doesn’t talk about first or second temple Hagai speaks about previous and latter glories, that’s the twisting of the Hebrew. The suptoegent confirms this and hagai 2:3 confirms this. So this person who will bring glory to the temple or could be any time in the future and it’s not limited to the second temple. (Zakir also refuted dr brown in the end about there being more temples and hagai destroying and rebuilding the temple and temple also being the land as other scriptures mention) Dr brown was refuted about “prophet like me” while many verses indicate he will be a lawgiver. Furthermore prophet Muhammad did many miracles and when he spoke to God even though moses spoke numerous times, Muhammad spoke to God on a higher level when he descended to the highest level and directly, so it’s quality not quantity… part 2 dr brown was challenged to show which servant of Isiah 42 brought the Ishmaelites out of idol worship… part 2 dr brown claims Jesus is a law giver like moses because of the sermon of the mount, the sermon of the mount is not a new law and the followers of Jesus were still following the law of Moses and even James challenged Paul to see if he’s still following the law of Moses Dr brown made a claim Jesus performed miracles greater than moses and was challenged to show and give proof.. part 2 dr brown claimed Jesus gave life and raised himself from the dead but moses even gave life to a stick which doesn’t even have heart or brain or other functioning organs which keeps you alive and as afar dr brown mentioning Jesus reading himself up from the dead but according to who? Who saw the physical Jesus being raised up? Paul mentions vision and the context also, the people with Paul didn’t see physical Jesus some saw something but didn’t hear anything some heard something but didn’t see anything “The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. Him you shall hear” Deuteronomy 18:15, Here moses is speaking to Israelites so when it says your God will raise up for you, “you” and “yourself” is all of Israel. Israel is being spoken of as one person, the pronoun is speaking of them as a singular person and God is speaking of them as a singular person then the brother cannot be the same person, the Hebrew is in singular, God said among “your” and “you” Israel in a singular brethren so now who is the brother of the singular person referred to as Israel, who is their brother? because Israel cannot be its own brother. Moses is speaking to “you” and “your” and “you” and “your” the singular pronoun is referring to the whole of Israel as one person but this person comes from the brethren of singular person for Israel, now Israel cannot be the brother of Israel so who is the brethren of Israel? And this verse proves this unless the prophet is from gentile nation Deuteronomy 34:10 “Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face”

[@FazsterHQ]

Well done Zakir! Clearly Christian’s are watching another debate.

[@purdess2.040]

Exactly

[@mynamedoesnotmatter1]

Haha muslims are trying hard to insert muhammad in the bible which they say is corrupted. Crazy logic. Why did zakir use coryright claim if you people clearly say that he won the debate. Yuo people are just cheering without actually listening to the debate.

[@stoispapi2380]

Absolutely.

[@emmytones8311]

HEY ZAKIR 🙋‍♂️ MOSES DID CLEARLY WARN US ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS LIKE MUHAMMAD AND HE CHECKS BOTH BOXES. 👇👇👇 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ Deuteronomy 18:20 Muhammad (not allah) recited and included the Satanic verses in the Quran. Muhammad fits both descriptions. (who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak and/or who speaks in the name of other gods) MUHAMMAD CHECKS BOTH BOXES MAKING HIM A FALSE PROPHET, so he can't be the one mentioned in 18:18 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bwetitatekaribwa5830]

Zakir was defeated by Mr brown

[@SoYouAreB]

Dr. Brown is so bold and loud - because he speaking inspired by the Holy Spirit. He reading the Holy Bible and telling the ruth. In first 10 minutes he proved that Jesus Christ is the God.

[@BlackJ1234]

90 percent correct

[@SoYouAreB]

@@BlackJ1234 100% correct. There is no place for Is-Lame in the Holy Bible.

[@BlackJ1234]

@@SoYouAreB 90 only kiddo... the last part of ur statement is very debatable & confusing.... Jesus is the "GOD" do u mean he is Yahweh? coz christians r so divided on the matter

[@SoYouAreB]

@@BlackJ1234 You are confused about your Book of Know Less. How you'll understand the Holy Bible, you Big Boy?

[@BlackJ1234]

@@SoYouAreB DO u know the bible? If u do ... answer this ... Jesus call yahweh Father... he also told man kind to call god father... we r children of god.. jesus is also a child of god... in that context he is not yahweh ... he is the son of yahweh ... just like human r the children of yahweh ... how do u explain this

[@noelroga4593]

Fantastic debate Mr.Brown🎉

[@Randomhandlename]

Fantastic job staying silent when confronted, fantastic job defending a book you don’t know where and who it from, fantastic job believing in a god who regrets while being all knowing, hilarious

[@noelroga4593]

@@Randomhandlename fantastic in pointing out that prophet like Moses isnt muhammad. While zakir kept branching out to point that Ismaelite can be that prophet with out of context verses that Brown refuted as well. Zakir kept cherry pick verses regarding servant of the Lord in Isaiah 42 but failed to realize there were 4 songs regarding servant of the Lord in Isaiah. Muslim loved that specific song because it has the word 'kedar' in it while kept a blind eye to the other 3 which Zakir didnt even refute but double down on his point..yeah . fantastic job by mr Brown

[@Randomhandlename]

@@noelroga4593you did exactly what dr brown did, stayed silent and ignored all of the points I brought against your Bible which destroys your faith completely. Isiah 42 cannot be refuted especially when it comes to context and mountain sela in Saudi Arabia and kedar son of ishmael, we don’t know where and who the Bible came from it’s been corrupted and has contradictions and errors and your god in the Bible regrets while being all knowing hilarious.

[@noelroga4593]

@@Randomhandlename 😂 exactly what i thought. Even if a specific point has been refuted, you guys just keep saying it hasn't been refuted. Yeah, keep saying Isaiah 42 refers to Muhammad, maybe repeating it enough will convince the mormon

[@Randomhandlename]

@@noelroga4593 It was the other way around Dr brown challenges zakir asking where is it mentioned Ishmael being brethren of Israel zakir answers his challenge quoting genesis 16:12 Deuteronomy 24 dr brown never answered if the edomites are classed as the brothers if he says yes then so are Ishmaelites and if he says no then that’s speaking about brothers within the nation not brothers of the nation. Dr brown was challenged to answer why did John change the day Jesus died to make him look like the Passover lamb, dr brown remained silent Dr brown was challenged to answer why did Mathew have to make a story about herad, dr brown remained silent

[@Solemn_G]

It's clear that Zakir had the more substantive and researched arguments. Dr. Brown was basically preaching for a good part of it

[@TK-lx6oc]

zakir had 6 whole years to prepare and still got no diff by dr brown

[@israfilangel8062]

@@TK-lx6oc he didn't prepare for years lmo he already debated this topic with Dr James white a decade ago he doesn't need any further preparation besides reading and studying Brown's 5 volumes and so on

[@capricorn87]

Zakir, I don’t think you’re watching the right debate. Zakir got schooled.

[@andrevisser7542]

Well how many times can you show there is no Muhammad in the Bible?

[@ia6432]

@@TK-lx6oc how many years to develop trinity?

[@wisdomofislamm]

Where are the Christians who accused the MDI in not uploading the debate after video on SOCO channel was taken down?! You guys should be ashamed of yourself.

[@purdess2.040]

They are coping

[@wisdomofislamm]

@Crus Ader Here the debate, pathetic weasel. MDI never broadcast it live. Dishonest Christian youtube channel "soco film" upload debate without permission of MDI. You guys behavior proves once again the fact that there is nothing more disgusting than "christian love"

[@orangemanbad]

I feel bad for the Muslim position. I hope next time they bring a scholar who could at least bring a coherent message. This was a disgrace to Muhammad

[@tommynoblethecouncilofheav4657]

Hussain got spanked as did the false belief that Muhammad is in the Holy Bible . Maybe when YAHVEH warns of false Prophets in Deut 18 & then Yeshua in the Bri't Chadashah.

[@KevinSmile]

Dr. Brown clearly came out on top in this debate. Muhammad simply isn't in the bible, and no amount of forceful reinterpretation can make it otherwise.

[@jundean5292]

Lol Brown had no responses. Just showmanship

[@danielhunter1773]

​@@jundean5292yes. He couldn't respond to stupid questions about Muhammad's name in the Bible. Zakir is certainly not knowledgeable

[@watchlearn485]

Truth with quotes reference (Zakir) vs sugar coated dialogue (brown)

[@JonathanMcLatchie]

I have scarcely seen a more single-sided debate. Great job, Dr. Brown!

[@hamzazulfi]

Of course you would say that. But is that the reality? Not really.

[@rafacc7155]

Just as you see trinity in the torah delusional much

[@MrTrialandError]

Wow, and you are a "Dr" too? Can't see past the showmanship. SMH.

[@SoldierOfTheDeen]

Let's see if you've actually understood what brother Zakir said or if you're just doing damage control because your teacher got exposed. At 26:12, brother Zakir mentioned the prophecies of Daniel 2 and 7, what are the four kingdoms which precede the Kingdom of God in Daniel 2 and 7 according to the consensus of classical Jewish and Christian scholars and what was the fifth kingdom (i.e. the Kingdom of God) historically?

[@ijazthetrini]

I agree with McLatchie, great job Dr. Brown, excellent job Br. Zakir.

[@Zevros170]

47:23 GOAT of speakers corner - bob the builder

[@poxdaccy]

The Bible is amazing

[@Truthone-l9k]

It's beyond Amazing, but the name of Mohammad was not mention in the Amazing Bible the word of God,

[@celestialknight2339]

As a Muslim I can easily agree-since we believe in God, and in what was revealed to us, and what was revealed to you. And our God and your God is one & the same-and to Him we surrender ourselves completely. But know that you have NOTHING to truly stand upon, until you uphold the Torah, the Gospel, and EVERYTHING else revealed to you from your Lord. So if you embrace the Qur’an-which no doubt proves itself to be the pristine revelation of the God of Abraham-then it is truly better for you, and for your own sake. But if you turn your back on its message-the words of your Lord-then know that God is not blind to anything you do. And bear witness that we devote ourselves entirely to God. All praise be to Him-the God of Abraham, the God of Noah, the God of Moses, and the God of Jesus, the son of Mary-the Lord of all the worlds. He alone is worthy of worship; God the Ultimate & Absolute, who neither begets nor was begotten, and who has no co-equal.

[@Truthone-l9k]

@@celestialknight2339 But you Muslims are following the false prophet and false God,

[@truthdoesntcomeeasy743]

​@@Truthone-l9k Remember that Jesus reb-uked those who demonstrated double standards. Where is the name "Jesus" mentioned in the OT? If you can quote that so it will be amazing. If you fai-l to quote, then you need to question as to what Spirit led YOU to do what Jesus R_E-B-U-KE-D?

[@avalancheofapostasy4916]

@@truthdoesntcomeeasy743 So now it's clear muhammad's name is not in The HOLY BIBLE which is the only book that counts, and like a good satan worshipping muhammad you are going to claim JESUS'S name is not there...😂😃😁. Typical thing for a looser to attempt to do...😂😃😁

[@collins1231]

Dr. Proved that indeed the Bible is not corrupt and without lies Islam dies

[@andrewcohen786]

Which version of the Bible you are saying is not corrupt? While you are at it let us know who wrote the 4 books ?

[@i3620]

if is not currapted tell me why are there meny errors in the word of god? and olso tell me the authers of the new testamend...

[@ia6432]

Give me one verse of the bible that are the words of Jesus

[@collins1231]

@@ia6432 lol have you read the Bible before. Bcs I am surprised you are asking this question. Go and read the Gospels and you will fine them. Don't allow your Imams and other leaders deceive you. Jesus is Lord

[@ia6432]

@@collins1231 Quote me one and we will tben go through the transmission of the verse Go ahead

[@Nakdimon316]

Wow this was embarrassing! 🤣 Zakir, or any muslim, should never again try to make this case. Not only that, since it is clear Muhammad is NOT in the Bible they should give up Islam because surah 7:157 is a boldfaced lie.

[@mohammadmahmood9147]

The liar is Paul, who meets all the criteria of a false prophet, and whom Christ, peace be upon him, warned that he would break the law. He warned against anyone who says that he saw him in the wilderness, because when he appears again, everyone will see him, and whom the Bible warned against, that we should not believe anyone who claims with God another god until If he brings miracles, one of the criteria for the truthfulness of prophecy set by the Bible is that anyone who prophesies in the name of the Lord and his prediction does not come true is a false prophet, and all of these things happened with Paul, the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace. Before prophecy, he was called the truthful and trustworthy. Go and read the Book of Moses, the Revelation of Abraham, and the Revelation of Daniel, and see. How do they determine the exact time of the mission of our Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace? 

[@samirgashi5926]

Superb debate by Zakir. This guy is so underrated he has depth knowledge. Brown didnt answer directly in almost all questions.

[@Superw0rrio]

I think you watched a different debate in your head. Dr. Brown directly answered every single word that Zakir said. You might want to actually listen.

[@reneandjohn]

It seems you did not watch the debate very properly. Just a few examples. Concerning מַחֲּמַדִּ֑ים‬, ma-ḥă-mad-dim in Songs of Solomon 5:16 did dr Brown pronounce as well. Dr Brown explained the Hebrew word, the text and the context. It has nothing to do with a name, let alone the name of ‘Muhammad’. The context is a love song, a beautiful young girl (Shulammite maiden) who is in love with a young shepherd bo. So it has nothing to do with ‘Muhammad’. Zakir had no answer for that, he was schooled by dr Brown in a lesson classic Hebrew. Concerning the Paraclete in John 14-16 Zakir was set checkmate by Dr. Brown. Dr. Brown referred to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ said that the Paraclete was with the disciples, and therefore not Muhammad who should come 500 years earlier. Zakir had no answer for that. Dr. Brown referred again to John 14:16 in which Jesus Christ also said that Paraclete will be in the disciples, and therefore the Paraclete is not Muhammad. Zakir had no answer for that. About Deuteronomy 18, could Zakir not show one example in which the term מִקֶּ֥רֶב אֲחֵיהֶ֖ם, miq-qe-reḇ ’ă-ḥê-hem ‘from their brothers' is mentioned with another group of people than own countrymen. Furthermore, Dr. Brown referred to Deuteronomy 17, which states very clear that a foreigner is not a brother of the Israelites. Zakir had no answer for that. "you are to appoint over yourselves the king whom the Lord your God shall choose. Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers." Deuteronomy 17:15. So the prophet in Deuteronomy 18 must be an Israelite, no foreigner.

[@Mark-bl5ro]

Wow! So Zakir's knowledge is considered deep by Islamic standards?!!

[@ionictheist349]

I don't think u really watched it. This is a humiliation of Zakir tbh

[@Mark-bl5ro]

@dark_mode True! The problem with Muslims is that they believe their own lies. So when someone exposes their lies, their whole world comes crashing down. This is not just about Dr. Brown vs. Zakir, it's an existential problem for Muslims because the debate proves that Muhammad lied when he said the Bible prophesied about him, which means the whole religion of Islam is false.

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Muhammad in the Bible? I think we can say with great superiority that this debate was very embarrassing for the Muslim audience. Dr. Brown buried all arguments that Muhammad was mentioned in the Bible once and for all. It's been a long time since I've seen such a bad debate. Such a debate should never have taken place in the first place for many different reasons.

[@purdess2.040]

You christians actually need to watch the full debate. All attempts of dr brown where refuted and rebutted by zakir hussein who then reinstated the point. He brought out christian diuble standard of prophecy how brown was going into such detail about the world muhammadim in song of solomon yet has no issue with isaiah 53 despite the dozens of problems it has which further shows christisn hypocrisy. Zakir rebutted all his statements.

[@mohammadmahmood9147]

The liar is Paul, who meets all the criteria of a false prophet, and whom Christ, peace be upon him, warned that he would break the law. He warned against anyone who says that he saw him in the wilderness, because when he appears again, everyone will see him, and whom the Bible warned against, that we should not believe anyone who claims with God another god until If he brings miracles, one of the criteria for the truthfulness of prophecy set by the Bible is that anyone who prophesies in the name of the Lord and his prediction does not come true is a false prophet, and all of these things happened with Paul, the Prophet Muhammad, may God bless him and grant him peace. Before prophecy, he was called the truthful and trustworthy. Go and read the Book of Moses, the Revelation of Abraham, and the Revelation of Daniel, and see. How do they determine the exact time of the mission of our Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace? 

[@TK-lx6oc]

when dr brown replaced the holy spirit with muhammed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is proper embarrassing frfr

[@the_phen0m639]

Lol , strawmanning* Zakir already told him that the word holy spirit is not found in early manuscripts of John 14:15

[@tranki885]

😂

[@davidchabi9722]

@@the_phen0m639it is not about the word Holy Spirit didn’t exist, it is about the context, it is funny when you replace muhammad in the context

[@the_phen0m639]

@@davidchabi9722 no ? What Zakir's argument was that in John 14 it says "God will send another helper" Michael Brown pulled out a strawman and said that it is the holy spirit and quoted random verses (because he is a liar and he was strawmanning) and replaced holy spirit was Mohammad , which was not even the argument in the first place

[@the_phen0m639]

@@davidchabi9722 Lol the context says "And father will send you another helper" so like Michael Brown strawmanned and replaced this with Mohammad , lets replace it with holy ghost "And father will send you another holy ghost" Now there are two ghosts in Chrisrian trinity?

[@ionictheist349]

I don't see how this is a debate really. I haven't seen any good argument from Zakir at all other than twisting scripture and red herring to another subject like the reliability of the new testament and appeal to authority. It was already a win for Dr. brown before the debate even started.

[@jundean5292]

Brown got exposed 😂

[@sbd7589]

Zakir's ability to respond with specific data and evidence no matter the length of time he has is just legendary. He is by far the best debater we have for Christians today.

[@ziaulhaqharuna2323]

I agree with you

[@elsemorris906]

If he is the best that Muslims have, then islam is in deep trouble. The only reference in the Bible to Ahmed (because his name wasn't actually "Muhammad" is the warnings in the Bible about false prophets. Muslims are venerating a false prophet and a pagan god.

[@unityisnottrinity5402]

Brown says prophet Muhammad not fitting the description and makes jokes about Muhammed "being in the deciples." But if you read John 14-15, Jesus says in the same verses that I will be in you. Clearly Jesus means his words and teachings, which Muslims follow. Islam is very similar to Jewish teachings. The teachings of prophet Muhammad was the new covanent and the old testament God is the same God as the Quran

[@kingcarlos9380]

Zakir clearly won. He gave plenty of references to the bible and its up to the people to go back and read the verses. 👉 CHRISTIANITY IS A SCAM 👉 THE TRINITY IS FAKE

[@elsemorris906]

@Unity is not trinity You claim "Muslims follow the teachings if Jesus." No, they don't. Jesus said "I and the Father ARE ONE." And "No man come to the Father except by Me." Muslims don't accept that. Jesus predicted his death and resurrection when He told the disciples, "The Son of Man is going to be betrayed into the hands of men. They will kill him, and after three days he will rise." Yet Muslims deny the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ." Jesus also said, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's. clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." Yet Muslims have allowed themselves to be duped by the false prophet of Islam, Muhammed, and worship a pagan god of the kaaba.

[@billy5470]

The closing statement from dr brown🙏🔥

[@halim7725]

.. was embarrassing considering how the debate was driven. Deliberately targetting his blind followers who won't watch the entire thing and are just waiting for some comfort. Zakir schooled him, as he usually does. Kind thoughts for Bob the builder who raised his hand forever to get ended in a few seconds.

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

Muslims 😂😂😂 🙏 😅 You need to repent and be baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit🔥

[@halim7725]

@@JMJ-rb2ze You mean the way it's written in 1 John 5 ? Oh wait a second, I see a footnote at the 8th verse, let's read it : "FOOTNOTE Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)" Ooooooooh such a shame. I wonder why they had to FORGE new verses to insert this doctrine. You're welcome.

[@jamesojeda5336]

​@@halim7725accept the reality my friend that your brother was roasted...😊

[@andrevisser7542]

​@@halim7725, the squeeze demon certainly is blinding you...

[@esamshamoay303]

Now I I know for sure that "without lies Islam dies"..

[@stoispapi2380]

Favourite line from layman Christians who can deal with facts and logic and defend what they believe in ... " without lies Islam dies " That's the only dung and line you have in your big head. If something is unhelpful to Christians, "its a lie" How pitty . . .

[@Zaid26127]

Nr, we don't need Muhammad ﷺ to be the prophet of Deuteronomy 18:18 for Islam to be true. It's just interesting to think and talk about

[@chuck1t700]

With or without lies Christianity dies. What's your point?

[@ZA90224]

Your prophet is dead forever, so Islam is dead forever , its the lies that's trying to keep it alive but for only a short time.Jesus is alive forever more , so Christianity is alive forever with Him. Unless your Islamic god Allah can dethrone the God of Israel. @@chuck1t700

[@ledgendgoku1]

I pray for Muslims so that they come out of the deception of Islam

[@meldonnelly5274]

Without lies Zakir Hussain Dies. Just as he did in this debate How embarrassing for the Abduls & Islam

[@adosados2760]

Dr Brown did a great job in demolishing that argument that Muhammad is found in the bible.

[@nuratanya3813]

Zakir hussein did a great job refuting Michael brown

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

Including Muhammad in the Holy Bible is unnecessary and irrelevant.😂😂😂

[@haikalsafrisam7818]

​@@JMJ-rb2ze the Jews also say the same thing to Jesus😂

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

@@haikalsafrisam7818 Christians aren’t dependent on Jews but Jews are dependent upon Christians! Christians literally placed their hand above them in the form of mercy, protection, advancement etc

[@haikalsafrisam7818]

@@JMJ-rb2ze Is this a joke or what?😂

[@TheCondescendingRedditor]

Even as a Muslim you have to admit Zakir got destroyed here…

[@jundean5292]

Yeah right. You must have hearing issues

[@TheCondescendingRedditor]

@@jundean5292 good to hear from the "self like gang"

[@jundean5292]

@@TheCondescendingRedditor good to hear from cheerleading simpletons like you aswell

[@blueocean5070]

Genuine question, why can't Christians perform a debate without going into preaching mode? like bro just stick to the topic?

[@FazsterHQ]

Their Holy Spirit, the shaytaan (satan), takes over their bodies when they go into full preaching mode, it’s quite funny to watch.

[@mystaree]

In muhammed Hijah debate with David Wood didn't he start reciting the Qur'an at one point 😂😂😂

[@pabloeskibar8076]

@@mystaree he even started spouting broken arabic to jordan peterson lol

[@ilj3168]

@@pabloeskibar8076 Zakir did a great job of embarrassing himself and his religion 👏 Well done!

[@blueocean5070]

@@mystaree After he was done demolishing that hammer man, he started reciting Quran in his free time 🤦‍♂️

[@JesusisaMuslim]

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is closer to Jesus than anyone else. Prophet Mohammad said, “I am the closest of the people to Jesus the son of Mary in this life and in the Hereafter.” It was said, “How is that, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said, “The prophets are like brothers from one father with different mothers. They have one religion and there was no other prophet between us.” Sahih Muslim 2365

[@markscheepers9908]

It is unlikely Jesus considered him a "brother" since he never mentions him. Dr. Brown clearly shows from the gospel of John.

[@salomonkalou9002]

🤣🤣🤣 Is closer to Jesus because he says so? And I say he is not, how would you make the distinction?

[@zahidfareed3218]

MashaAllah Brother Zakir Hussain never disapoint us in previous debates , he roasted and toasted Dawid wood , Samuel Green and James white Here too , he is exceptional Micheal Brown wasnt able to defend pressing questions raised by Zakir Husain , but kept a blind eye towards it and appealed to fallacy of circular reasoning that we must beleive everything in Bible this is not how the debate and arguements works

[@emmytones8311]

Guess Zakir didn't read anymore than Deuteronomy 18:18 and he had 6 years to do it bcuz MOSES DID CLEARLY WARN US ABOUT FALSE PROPHETS LIKE MUHAMMAD AND HE CHECKS BOTH BOXES IN 18:20 👇👇👇 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ Deuteronomy 18:20 Muhammad (not allah) recited and included the Satanic verses in the Quran. Muhammad fits both descriptions. (who presumes to speak a word in my name that I have not commanded him to speak and/or who speaks in the name of other gods) MUHAMMAD CHECKS BOTH BOXES MAKING HIM A FALSE PROPHET.

[@purdess2.040]

Christians can’t comprehend that😂

[@mynamedoesnotmatter1]

@@hubertagamasu6283they cant comprehend it, they just cheer without understanding the actual debate. there is no intelligent muslims coz once they use their brain, they would become ex muslims 😂

[@Truthone-l9k]

Alhamdulillah.. Zakir hussain never disappointed you, but the name of Mohammad was not mention in the Bible.

[@keviselcli4487]

Please listen carefully to the debate. Either u didn't listen or u don't understand what they talk . Every verses zakir used was nailed to be pointless and was pointed that it doesn't refer to him in any way possible. The Bible never confirm Muhammad

[@iknew8082]

After watching this it got me think about islam . Mmmmmmm

[@ski5003]

For any questions and misconceptions we are available.peace

[@lefaseta8184]

Weekly we deliver young people from demonic spirits at the mention of the Name of Jesus Christ. People know Peace when they come to Jesus Christ. People even conquer spiritual attacks and witchcraft through the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Muslims stop acting like the Pharisees, scribes believing the scripts but denying the power seen with your own eyes, this makes you more blind than physical blindness.

[@JMJ-rb2ze]

@@ski5003id muhmmed teach muttah marriage 😂

[@Zevros170]

2:01:57 Bob asks questions

[@phoneacian]

MDI needed a week to decide to upload the debate , they realised that if they didn't post the debate it will look very weak , so the best option was to post it. They thought about it long and hard and came to the conclusion to post it but it doesn't matter the damage is done

[@blueocean5070]

Not really, it's cause some shameless people recorded without permission and uploaded it without letting MDI know, when it was THEM who organized the debate. You lot are pitiful

[@oneing4206]

@@blueocean5070 Typica Christian morals stealing the debate and uploading it without permission

[@ia6432]

It took a couple of hundred years to sort out trinity so giving ppl a week to edit and publish a video with the agreement of both interlocutors isn’t an issue tbh don’t you think?

[@conociendoelislam85]

I Saw this debate in a least 3 diferent channels, because, Lovely as muslims are, they said this video posted by SOCO Films had copyright problems...but, where was the copy right problem ? Mr. Brown could say the same about thiw channel too!!, because in the end he is in this video ...

[@phoneacian]

@@ia6432 why do they need to edit ?

[@servantofjesuschrist839]

As a Hebrew speaker Dr Brown did an extremely good Job Not even Houris can comfort Zakir after this loss Looking for Muhammed in the Bible is like looking for Joseph Smith in the quran lol🤣🤣

[@Randomhandlename]

Isiah 42 dismantles false Christin hope

[@abrahammathew2116]

​@@Randomhandlename the bible destroys Quran 😊

[@YusufIslam1]

As a Hebrew speaker? You need a slap. You're not correcting Dr Brown's pronunciation of Muhammad? Then Dr Brown himself says the audio of the rabbi's recitation is correct. 😂😂😂 You have double standards goose.

[@haikalsafrisam7818]

Looking for Muhammad in the Bible is way better than looking the son of God who was one of the Godhead and came to die for the sins of the world *sounds paganism*

[@servantofjesuschrist839]

@@haikalsafrisam7818 kissing a black stone or worshipping the true living God which sounds like paganism?

[@ilj3168]

so Muhammad clearly is NOT in bible

[@geoffreybrockmeier3765]

Matthew 7:15

[@Mym794]

Thank you Zakir for showing the truth to people. Islam is the only path to God.

[@dcfanboy68]

😂 are u blind?

[@Iamcybermonster]

It's embarass to watch Muslim logic.

[@John_3.16_Apologetics]

Obviously, he is​@@dcfanboy68

[@davidchabi9722]

It is clear that Dr Brown has more knowledge, understands properly the topic and makes some great points, I the other hand zakir is just playing a blame game. Everything Zakir says is that we use such and such theory for jesus and we should apply it to muhammad too, it just makes no sens, muhammad is not jesus and instead of using that methodology it should be better to start learning how to defend muhammad without identifying him with Jesus in a conversation.

[@purdess2.040]

Thats not his point, his simply showing the double standards of prophecy. And brown tonight like all christians proved his piint again. Christians go into such fragment and detail and atomic level to expose muslim claims even attempting to connecg hebrew and arabic word yet have 0 problem with the errors in isaiah 53.

[@truthdoesntcomeeasy743]

@david Chabi What Spirit led YOU to do what Jesus R_E-B-U-KE-D? I mean why are you cry-bab-ying about Zakir's point of being consistent and applying the same for both Jesus as well as Muhammad. By saying that it makes no sense, you basically called the practice and preaching of Jesus of the Bible as 👉 nonsense. So really you need to think honestly as to what Spirit led YOU to do such stuff which Jesus RE-BU-KED. Yeah how would you accept Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) when YOUR FAITH made a H.E.R.E.T.I.C of Jesus of the Bible. The Bible testifies. 1) Jesus: ✅ THE FATHER (SINGLE PERSON) IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD. John 17:3. (The Muslim agrees with Jesus) Christians: ❌ NO. The Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit (Triune-God / Godhead The Trinity / One God in three persons or whatever you want to call it) is the true God. 2) Jesus: ✅NO payment needed, NO Jesus died for us. Just repent sincerely and the Merciful God (THE ONLY TRUE GOD - THE FATHER) forgives. (The Muslim agrees with Jesus) Christians: ❌ NO. Salvation comes by the blood of Jesus and his dying on the cross 3) Jesus: ✅ Keep the Laws and the commandments if you want eternal life (The Muslim agrees with Jesus) Christians: ❌ NO. Eternal life comes by faith in the sacrifice of Jesus 4) Jesus: ✅ Do NOT neglect even the smallest laws (The Muslim agrees with Jesus) Christians: ❌ NO. Those laws are unimportant 5) Jesus: ✅ I was sent ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel (The Muslim agrees with Jesus) Christians: ❌ NO. Jesus came for us all, Jesus came for all of mankind ************ Your den1al of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is NO different that the Is-rael-ites den1al of Jesus. You're in the exact same boat as the d1sh0nest Ph arisees.

[@stoispapi2380]

Nonsense. Muhammad is the closest prophet to jesus. Secondly the only Prophet like moses was Muhammad pbuh. Jesus lived in oppression all his life. If you understand who moses was, Muhammad shouldn't be a problem.

[@truthdoesntcomeeasy743]

​@@purdess2.040 Yes these Christians like david Chabi the so-called followers of Jesus of the Bible are basically hy-po-cri-tes going against the very teachings of Jesus of the Bible. Jesus ✅ Don't have double standards The Holy Spirit led Christians ❌ NO. We will have double standards. ********** It's an amazing situation really that the Muslim - Zakir Hussain - invited the Christians to go by the practice and preaching of Jesus of the Bible BUT these so-called followers of Jesus are firm on having double standards.

[@Khaledf]

He just repeated his christian view reagarding some passages, sometimes he used the jewish view( double standards). There's no actual refutation for what brother Zakir did. In contrast, brother Zakir was very prepared and confident. May Allah reawed him.

[@blueocean5070]

"All that laughing on the holy spirit was jokes on you actually" 😂😂😂😂 may Allah ﷻ bless you brother Zakir wallah that made me giggle

[@tiisetsothandile8420]

But how is it jokes on Christians if Muhammad is not found in the Bible?😂😂

[@blueocean5070]

@@tiisetsothandile8420 Just like a Jew would tell you Jesus isn't in the OT, Christians are saying Muhammad ﷺ isn't in the Bible, so what? as brother Zakir mentioned, the prophecies that he mentioned make a stronger case than whatever Matthew & John were thinking by their vague prophecies and their changing of the biography of Jesus.

[@seaside9670]

@@blueocean5070 so you are say PDF File Moe is not in the Holy Bible (OT & NT) and that Moe was a POS ???

[@tiisetsothandile8420]

@@blueocean5070 I know, like Jews, you Muslims would rather go against your own book than to acknowledge Jesus Christ for who he truly is, but Isn't he the eternal word of God even in the Qur'an? The Qur'an teaches that Jesus Christ is the Messiah meaning you ought to agree that Jews are wrong about Jesus Christ- He is indeed Emmanuel the one talked about in the OT, the long awaited King who is, was, and is👑👏Dr Brown is right by suggesting that Muslims should just carrying on accusing the Bible of being corrupted as an excuse for not finding Muhammad(as a true prophet) in the Holy Bible rather than to struggle with scripture this bad, it's embarrassing.

[@haikalsafrisam7818]

​@@tiisetsothandile8420 the Jews goes against Jesus way badly😂

[@tranki885]

I think what gets muslims even more mad is that he lost to a Jew who is also a Christian

[@Agent_Banana11]

Wait... Did they upload an edited version of this debate with Dr. Brown's voice in high pitch? 😂😂

[@ic.xc.]

God Bless Mr Brown 🤎 and Zakir Hussain ❤ ✝️ in the name of Jesus. Amen.

[@ghasanm3552]

Bob got b 👋 slapped