DEBATE: The Biggest Transfer FLOP So Far Is... | Team Talk

[@keenanguludec5268]

I like Henry but saying gvardiol is “much” younger than saliba when they’re about 9 months apart is pretty insane.

[@RohitSharma-uu4fr]

Henry lacks ball knowledge!

[@MrBobby7194]

@@RohitSharma-uu4frdougie doesn’t lack bald knowledge

[@aaronryan8979]

Also saying Gvardiol is better then Saliba rn is insane

[@thierrytity8673]

Gvardiol is so much younger than the others, Gvardiol 21, Saliba 22, Colwill 20...

[@StephenMurray-q2z]

Zac is the king of interrupting and talking over people

[@JoshPhilp]

Glad to see Dougie shouting out Boniface, he's been brilliant

[@chris.48]

One of my favourite players in Europe. I mostly watch Leverkusen cus of him.(not Nigerian)

[@FootballAndSuch]

​@@chris.48I watch mostly fc porto(not egyptian).

[@ulrikeherzhoff8351]

To be honest and correct Guirassy has to be the best Transfer so far. I remind you guys that Stuttgart buys him this transfer season. So technically he tops every shoutout 😅😂

[@chris.48]

@@ulrikeherzhoff8351 he’s been amazing too 14 g/a in 7 games is amazing

[@Ravenghost123]

​@@ulrikeherzhoff8351exactly

[@jakeyg77]

Another good Bayer Leverkusen signing is Alex Grimaldo went there on a free and slotted in perfectly played 7 games and has got 2 goals and 3 assists, very under the radar signing but one of the best if not the best

[@jhines5713]

Its crazy that it's taken until now for a team to pry him out of benfica

[@just_a_yokai1103]

Its Bayer Leverkusen, Bayer being a pharmaceutical company

[@abhinavvadlamani7300]

Zak had a howler today , confirmed lack of ball knowledge when he stated that suarez is not one of the best strikers of all time

[@testadalord01432]

There’s two Luis Suarezes who are the greatest strikers, both of their generation and of all time, and he’s definitely one of them

[@tonsolerigarcia]

@@testadalord01432 The Spanish Luis Suárez wasn't a striker.

[@Aloviya]

Team talk with dinner is the perpect combo! Another awesome episode lads 😉

[@Matt-gw6nc]

Team talk with Lunch is the near perpect combo! Another awesome episode lads 😉

[@nicholasingall5413]

Team talk with breakfast is the perfect combo! Another awesome episode lads 😉

[@MrBobby7194]

Zach is an absolute conversation strangler

[@seanwhitmore7564]

I'm surprised he doesn't get slapped for his awful manners.

[@jonathanpuggleworth8259]

The only way he should be on team talk is if he’s the host

[@Bkesal14]

One of the funniest insults I've heard recently haha

[@TheFunkystewie]

Watching zac try and argue is like watching a car crash slowly

[@napoleonsolo1705]

When did Zac transform from someone who barely spoke but with considered opinions, into a rude gobshite

[@marko9463]

painful to watch always cutting people

[@BillyPheonix4]

Interrupting and then just talks waffle to make his point. He takes 5 minutes to say what could take him 1 minute to say

[@jonathanpuggleworth8259]

Really runs obaeski close but at least he’s funny with his bad takes but it’s properly painful to listen to Zac argue his points

[@charlesjharper3130]

Zac making sure Sam isn't missed with his horrendous takes 😅

[@jackhinks6287]

Henry is right about Bellingham, you can’t just say he’s going to be the best of all time because he’s scored a few for Real Madrid, obviously he’s amazing but you can’t just say Gerrard didn’t win a league title so he’s not the best, Bellingham has won’t nothing yet ? And may never, zac is clueless

[@Bobby_sprinkles]

Found the England talk strange too, no mention of Beckham who I'd say was more important for England than the likes of Lampard and Gerrard?

[@dtaafe2857]

Or Gascoigne. Probably England's greatest midfielder of all time. That's probably the benchmark Jude should be aiming for. Gazza was flawless for England.

[@MrAshdsouza]

So agree, I still think Gerrard, Lampard and Scholes are gonna take a lot to knock off. Ppl said Alli was going to be the best...look how quickly that changed. People underestimate consistent longevity.

[@reddevil6585]

@@Bobby_sprinklesthese people are young They didn’t see the 98/99 season which Beckham was man of the match in cl final & finished 2nd to rivaldo for player of year They didn’t see Beckham 98-2003 at United & people expect right wingers to score 20-30 a season now & I guess they meant central midfielder vs right or left midfielder Even though Beckham wasn’t an inside forward winger like today he was a right winger

[@Bobby_sprinkles]

@@dtaafe2857 Even I forgot about Gazza! I think there's a lot to be said for players who have had to overcome things. Bellingham has yet to be truly tested in his career so we don't know how he'd react to adversity in a football setting

[@lost1head]

People should learn the difference between "terrible" and "mediocre". Havertz would be great contender for the most average signing, for the most "meh" signing. But "worst"? No way.

[@knaxman9596]

For the price, it makes him a the worst signing, especially with the lack of cover for saka

[@josiahrogers6961]

Gtfo havertz has sucked steady for a few years now. On multiple teams. For the total spent he’s a ginormous flop

[@KingChaddii]

​@@josiahrogers6961nigga it's been 8 games he hasn't cost them any losses how can he be a flop

[@efrainmendez2623]

Considering how expensive he was for Chelsea and arsenal, yes he is the worst

[@josiahrogers6961]

@@efrainmendez2623 75 mil for more yellows than goal contributions is a BUST

[@jdingers]

Just to say... I think Jude is an incredible player and chances are he will be a great but to already decide he will become the GREATEST English midfielder ever based on what he's done so far is insanity. He has excelled at his age unlike players of the past because there used to be a reluctancy to play younger players in the first team back in the day so players had to wait longer. Jude done very well for Dortmund in a team with Haaland and even Sancho (when he was showing signs of being a world beater) and now he's apparently pushed on for Real Madrid in a Spanish league which is about as weak as its been in a very long time. Real Madrid are a big brand but they and Barcelona are not the teams they have been. Jude has had a fantastic start to the season but so have many players who eventually fell off. I'm not saying won't become Englands greatest but to be SO sure that he will seems a lot like bias based on whats currently happening combined with wishful thinking. Zacs call that Bellingham WILL win the world cup is crazy too. England have always fallen short at senior level and while we have been incredible in the youth competitions recently, none of the winning teams have had Jude in them so why would we consider him the vital player to a team that comes through that have already won an international trophy as a team? Its a lot of "could" "probably" and "might" TLDR: I think Jude could become Englands greatest player, but I don't think its as insane to suggest that he wont as the FD guys are making it seem.

[@Izzy-it1ys]

Those sorts of “debates” aren’t even debates they’re just more or less speculation and honestly feel utterly pointless and can be done with literally any talented young individual, I only think they mentioned Jude just so they can praise him for what he’s done at Madrid so far because he’s English. But already calling for him to be better than Scholes,Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham and Bobby Charlton is nuts to me

[@therealcozyboy13]

I totally agree. If it were a question that weren’t true or false, most of us would say he could become the best, but since you have to choose one, all things being equal, defaulting to Bellingham becoming better than some absolute legends before him is a strange shout, and a bit disrespectful. Zac making that World Cup prediction is just hilariously in character. In an answer where they’re already made a pretty outrageous shout, he has to go on and make an even more insane one.

[@timlett99]

Yeah completely agree. I was baffled Henry was the only one that said no. Its objectively just too early to say Jude will be the best English midfielder ever, and to say true to that is insanely disrespectful to everyone in that conversation.

[@hello7032]

Bingo

[@deoganchev5806]

I feel like if it was Pat making the points not Henry, half of the time they would be agreeing with him because he spoke a lot of sense in this episode

[@jonathanpuggleworth8259]

100% everyone bar Dougie would be afraid of disagreeing with him

[@Prypyatify]

Niche issue but Zach pronouncing hyperbole as HYPERBOWL cracked me up

[@Izzy-it1ys]

You should hear how dougie pronounces controversy as controvasy

[@testadalord01432]

Just like my dad does, so wrong lol

[@jackhinks6287]

At the end zac says suarez isn’t one of the best strikers of all time, then goes into to name Lewandowski, guy ain’t got a clue

[@MrBestofGaming]

damnn this video just dropped but it’s 1am in Australia

[@colincolin5696]

Ok?

[@AbdiHassan-uz3wg]

Go to bed then 😂

[@cam5556]

What’s the verdict, did you watch it or sleep?

[@MrBestofGaming]

@@cam5556 watched it!

[@cam5556]

@@MrBestofGaming who even needs sleep anyway lol

[@JooshB]

Dougie putting the Newcastle striker last? I for one am shocked

[@micckeymol4396]

Suarez definitely is one of the best strikers of time.

[@jonathanpuggleworth8259]

He left it late but managed to save his worst take until the very end

[@stuartfroome4655]

How has more not been made of Henry saying Gvardiol is SOOO much younger than Saliba?, one year 😂

[@joshhazell5461]

Like 9 months different lmao

[@hokadre8730]

exactly

[@tompritchard4640]

6:40 Bobby Charlton wasn't captain of England when we won the World Cup, that was Bobby Moore (who was not a midfielder of course) 👍⚒️

[@tompritchard4640]

Fair play just seen Dougie jump in with the correction 🫡

[@Listtall]

I feel that claiming Gvardiol won't have as good a career as Saliba due to Croatia being very unlikely to win a major honour (which I don't fully agree with, given that time and time they have progressed deep into tournaments and beat the favourites) then also claim that England WILL win a major honour (which is dubious given the state of the current set up and their ability to choke in recent history, even with that golden generation of the 2010s), is too hypocritical. Also touching on Jude, 5 years ago I think we would have all said that Mbappe, the greatest talent of the last 10 years, would eclipse Henry to be the greatest French forward of all time. Now 24, it's not so obvious that he will overtake Henry in the history books as the GOAT.

[@varundhaka3621]

I think it’s still pretty obvious with Mbappe as long as he leaves PSG

[@thetruth4654]

Honestly Benzema is ahead of Henry. I used to disagree with this Notion, but Benzema’s career achievements are absolutely insane.

[@JR-sj1jz]

48:34 can someone remind Zac that in the 10 seasons between 2009 and 2019, the only person to win the European Golden Boot, whose name wasn't Messi or Ronaldo, was Luis Suarez. And he did it twice. Once for Liverpool, after having missed the first 5 or so games due to suspension. The other time for Barcelona. So not only did he beat prime Messi and Ronaldo playing for a less fancied Liverpool, he went to La Liga and beat them there too. By the way, in those two seasons, he had something 14 assists for Liverpool and over 20 for Barcelona. If Luis Suarez name isn't part of a discussion about the greatest strikers ever to have played in Europe, then you are having a debate with the wrong people. He won't ever be the greatest, but his name deserves being mentioned. Unfortunately, he did also have a nasty side to him, which probably cost him the chance to win more individual awards like the Ballon D'or.

[@Therealone27]

Unfortunately ppl don't bring up his name when asked about the greatest strikers debate which is really baffling

[@furkanalbayrak5129]

The only person that has less ball knowledge than Zak is Sam and thats saying a lot

[@shafquattanvirulislam8939]

Suarez, Lewa, and Zlatan were the names that instantly come to mind.

[@latadhanuka9849]

Didn't Forlan win the golden boot in 2009?

[@JR-sj1jz]

​@latadhanuka9849 yes 2008-09. I guess I should have said 2009-10 to 2018-19 to be more specific. Which is still 10 seasons

[@naturallycyborg]

i think with saliba and france you have to remember this is Deschamps, its likely or a lot more likely that we'll see Upa Konate and Upa Pavard as the Cbs than Upa and Saliba

[@deenuk125]

Price shouldn't be the defining factor in the modern game when judging signings tbh A factor yes But not something to make or break

[@hello7032]

Certainly shouldn’t be held against the player

[@theduck6078]

Henry bias against arsenal confirmed

[@finlayopenshaw9448]

Serhou Guirassy is the purchase of the summer!

[@dasurmel1424]

he came to stuttgart in the winter transformwindow

[@finlayopenshaw9448]

@@dasurmel1424 he was only on loan they bought him permanently this season

[@FuerstMykisch]

He joined VfB in the summer 2022

[@badgermanization]

His loan was made permanent this summer. It depends on whether you count that as a new signing or not.

[@christaylor9656]

So happy to see this, teamtalk is top tier content. Thanks a lot guys. Much appreciated ❤

[@jamesblake44]

Bingo! I had zach saying "so on and so forth" before 15mins 👌👌👌

[@user-jo4xb8rf9i]

"Very true, very true" 😏

[@jezusmylord]

Zac saying that bellingham will win a world cup as a straight up non negotiable fact is such an audacity only a brit could say because no one is so deep in their own arse thinking they are the best still losing everything for years its just stagering.

[@jacknorman8236]

Going with Havertz is nuts for flop. He’s not been great by any stretch, but he definitely hasn’t been bad. Just pretty average. Onana has actively contributed quite heavily to man United’s downfall

[@fredsoh4027]

Zac needs to let the others talk and stop cutting them off so much. He's the least knowledgable guy of the four he should be talking the least not the most. like why is it always him and Oba running their mouths all the time?

[@mattbennetts5356]

its so annoying aha

[@charliedugmore1289]

How Watkins is even in the conversation is testament to his come up, I’m from Weston super mare and personally remember watching him as I was trying to get into the same team myself. Look at him now 😮‍💨

[@persionmonky]

Havertz has just as many g/a as Rashford, 1 less than bruno fernandes, 2 more in the league than Mason mount. 10 errors less than Onana, 5 big chances missed less than Jackson and as many g/a as jackson. The media agenda against havertz is crazy more spotlight on him than any other player. Where is the spotlight on mason mount? Nic Jackson who has been dropped? Lavia who didn't even make the squad before his injury? How about Brennan Johnson what has he done?

[@Amberle38]

Unreal aint it, I was so happy for him getting that assist for the winner against City. Didn't particularly want us to sign him but my god after the treatment he's had since I really hope he makes all the doubters eat their words.

[@persionmonky]

@@Amberle38 at this point I'm pretty sure no one watches Arsenal games they just push their own agendas and want to be proven right in their prediction that havertz as a signing makes no sense. He was vital for us in winning the community shield and had the assist in the game that beat city plus he has created 4 or 5 good chances this season. He could easily have 3 or 4 assists already.

[@nihlify]

​@@persionmonkylol, he's been terrible, you're delusional

[@persionmonky]

@@nihlify He has not been terrible he has been average. He has shown glimpses of good stuff and has worked his socks off defensively. Yeah thats not what you pay 65m for but he hasn't even learned the system and his new position yet. Plus whenever he has played in the 9 (a position he knows) he has been great. Won us the game against City the other day. Was Fantastic in the community shield. And has done his job in the few games he has rotated there at the end. He needs to improve a lot still yes but he hasn't been terrible or anywhere near the flop of the sesaon.

[@furkanalbayrak5129]

None of those signings were as crazy as Havertz who apart from scoring in the champions league final did not offer anything to Chelsea and cost 65m. While you are comparing him to guys that are struggling this season like Fernandes and Rashford

[@isakibrahim8316]

Dougie actually said United got a better defense than Chelsea😂😂😂

[@anotherguy3082]

Shaw, martinez, varane, and Dalot is better than chelseas backline. Problem is United have so many injuries

[@isakibrahim8316]

@@anotherguy3082 Nah. The only defender that would start for us from utd is Shaw. We’ve been shocking (to start the season with crucial injuries at the back as well like Fofana, Badiashile & Reece and still 3rd for least xG conceded and Sanchez most clean sheets in the league

[@marko9463]

@@isakibrahim8316 u cant say varane doesnt start for you, martinez is also good. awb has improved heeps

[@isakibrahim8316]

@@marko9463 varane is not good enough on the ball, Martinez on the other hand is a great passer but we’ve got 2 lefty’s who are amazing on the ball and over 6 foot. RB doesn’t even matter who you have, we have the best one itw arguably when fit, Reece James

[@marko9463]

@@isakibrahim8316 reece james is never fit, varane is definitely good enough on the ball, is good at recovering the ball and dominant in the air. Martinez despite being short wins a decent amount of air duels and is a better passer than any man united center half

[@gbone302]

No one scoffing at Zach’s claim that England is going to win something in our life time is why I like when Pat is on 😭😭 England had Gerrard, Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Rio and Terry and didnt win the World Cup because that’s not how the World Cup works

[@calebkipkemboi528]

Whenever Henry talks of a player not being effective I remember his shout on vini jr shout 😂😂😂

[@Mak_Vintage]

Picking Havertz as the WORST and Gvardiol over Saliba are two INSANE shouts. Jesus Henry.

[@ayyeitsdaniel]

bro just hates arsenal genuinely

[@samkkx]

Gvardiol over saliba isn't a bad shout. Gvardiol was a top class CB before joining city people forget.

[@Mak_Vintage]

@@samkkx this isn't FIFA mate. Gvardiol is great, but OVER Saliba??? Ridiculous.

[@samkkx]

@@Mak_Vintage why not Gvardiol has played in the world cup semis with Croatia, played regular in the CL for 4 seasons now has won 2 DFB pokals and is still 21. Saliba has 1 great season in comparison.

[@garymaidman625]

No, he picked Isak, not Jesus.

[@thomasjones8453]

The lack of ball knowledge for a football channel is shocking

[@247Albin]

Have to agree with Henry on the Bellingham shout. Lot of if's and buts and what if's...

[@feeamerie5011]

Loving this show every week. The anti Henry bias is getting daft mind you 🤣

[@agustinriestra9594]

The whole Bellingham thing is a bit disrespectful to the amazing midfielders mentioned. Also England hasn't won anything since their only trophy in the 60's and they assume he will probably lift a world cup? If they were around by the time of Owen, they would have said he was going to be better than Pele. He is extremely promising and an amazing player, but you never know what will happen 5 years down the line, far less a decade

[@Mattjonesll]

It’s that time of the week boys!

[@Ravenghost123]

Best signing is clearly Guirassy at VFB Stuttgart (he was only on loan last season. This season he has 13 goals so far!

[@invertedgoalkeeper]

"Saliba is so much older than Gvardiol" - mate he's literally 10 months older

[@damookster5919]

I like Zac but the prem bias is too much for me sometimes- disrespecting Vicario before he’d ever watched a match of his, and discounting Boniface’s season because it’s in the buli. These are top class guys and everyone who watches Seria A and the bundesliga know this. Other than that thanks for another great one

[@adielubbe4200]

Zach constantly and consistently interrupting others, especially Henry, is infuriating and poor form from him. Be better please Zach - you're not the main character.

[@oskarhedman8634]

Henry saying that Gvardiol would start over Saliba at Arsenal has actually mad me sick. He could maybe start over Gabriel.

[@limpan9999]

He obviously would start over Gabriel and hes been great for City

[@carlmcgrath484]

@@limpan9999not obvious at all haha

[@timlett99]

@@limpan9999 I'm surprised at how underrated Gvardiol is in this comment section, he is absolutely class. To say he isn't better than Gabriel is WILD to me

[@joshuamontijo4359]

All 3 of those CBs they mentioned are better than Gabriel tbf

[@vcitykrb4667]

All three of those cb’s just played a couple days ago and guess who the best two on the pitch were? Saliba and Gabriel.

[@he_football]

Jimenez is more deserving that Onana

[@nikolasavic1525]

Good thing people overlook about Belingham is that hes a superstar off the field as well. He is already talked about so much and Englishmen are rare AF in Spain so his jerseys and PR make his fee look like a bargain. Add that hes probably the most inform player in the world.

[@alanmtbuk]

Murillo a bargain

[@Mukhtaarrrr]

I’ve never heard Henry Hill say anything positive about an Arsenal player. I understand the argument of adding Havertz, but he has not cost us points at this stage in the competition. And he will have many more chances to prove he can offer something.

[@xaoc6084]

He seems like a clown

[@randy2152]

He’s a Fulham fan you melt, no shit

[@hello7032]

Literally have Jesus ranked 2nd

[@sandieeeeeee]

It’s harder to cost you team as an attacker then a goal keeper though. I agree that Onana hasn’t been good but I also think if your £65m isn’t a regular starter it’s also a bit of a shocker

[@hello7032]

How do you debate with purely hypotheticals and then act as if it’s a guarantee that those hypotheticals will become true? This is devoid of logic. I’ve never been more annoyed with Zac than with that smug rebuttal.

[@SonnyTalksSpurs]

My fav football debate show!

[@BillyPheonix4]

Zac has the biggest anti United bias going. It’s so obvious. He bases his opinions so much off confirmation bias too and follows so many public, but often incorrect, narratives. Interrupts loads, and takes 5 mins to say something that could be said in 1 minute.

[@ebukaiwuagwu9371]

the best content on KZbin. Isak Watkins Jesus is top tier tough wow

[@jonlemierte9605]

Pulisic has been the best signing this season…. in Serie A

[@DrSpasticat]

Difference between Chelsea and United so far is Chelsea have definitely been unlucky and United have definitely got very lucky to get wins in a couple of matches

[@giorgoskyriakides4428]

Honesty Havertz did not flop. In some games he has been really good on and off the ball. Do Henry really believe he is been the worst player this season?

[@zaetayo]

Henry's takes are outrageous 🤣

[@1000Tees_]

That gvardiol take was wild

[@NathanSweeney]

Isak take was spot on tho

[@hello7032]

I think only the Gvardiol one was bad tbh

[@marko9463]

he had one bad take and usually is good

[@timeoutshirt]

He’s got his own celebration 💀😂😂

[@NathanSweeney]

3:18 Thought for a second Dougie had written down Joselu! 🤣😂

[@yusavelli0448]

Onana is definitely the worst signing

[@rory4016]

Zac speaks like he’s the oracle, waffles total shite half the time

[@liamstringer6877]

Love these team talks but how was isak not at the top of everyone’s list he’s the 2nd best striker in the league after haaland now, of course dougie put him bottom needs to take them mackem glasses off haha.

[@KingChaddii]

Preach

[@garymaidman625]

He's not even the best striker at Newcastle. There are better strikers in the league than Isak. He was terrible at Dortmund and Sociedad. Defenders would rather play against Isak than Nunez.

[@giovannycruz3949]

Gvardiol is the clear answer here , him and saliba are at a similar level in terms of talent but one plays for city who will will more trophies then arsenal . Gvardiol was the best CB at the WC the biggest stage in the world . Saliba is amazing but I think Gvardiols career will slight edge him.

[@therealking6202]

Dude, is it that time of the month for Henry?!? Good Lord he was arguing just to argue. I don't think he brought up many valid points, he was just whining about why nobody was agreeing with him. If I was in that room it would be VERY difficult to stay calm while one guy just continued to make things difficult just for the sake of "being different."

[@DrewK19]

Suarez is easily one of the best 9’s of all time - what the hell is Zach on? I need some of those good drugs god damn

[@LelouchLothric]

Suarez is the most overrated player in the history of fotball. Having 2 good seasons and being mediocre the rest should not get you in the same breath as Lewandowski

[@DrewK19]

@@LelouchLothric two good seasons 😂😂😭😭 next joke

[@DrewK19]

@@LelouchLothric do your small brain a favor and look up his stats

[@DrewK19]

@@LelouchLothric treble winner. I’m afraid you’re just an idiot oh well

[@RegularSizedAlbert]

henry making sure an arsenal player never gets the number 1 spot 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Maj1794]

Havertz has a goal and assist since joining Arsenal more contribution than certain strikers 👍🏼

[@timduncankobebryant]

Penalty haha

[@Maj1794]

​@@timduncankobebryantstill counts as a goal 😊

[@knuckalar]

Oh wow how amazing 😂 he’s by far been flop of the season

[@zaetayo]

Can't agree Havertz have been a flop, don't get me wrong he hasn't set the world on fire but he was never meant to. He's not a top goalscoarer or chance creator. No one, literally no one is mentioning his off the ball work.

[@justinosullivan9006]

Has Pogba had a better career than De Bruyne? Pogba has a WC and Serie As

[@persionmonky]

Havertz won arsenal the game against City can't call him a flop really. He has 1 goal and 1 assist just as many as rashford and Havertz still hasn't even learned the system yet. Even players like Rodri needed a year to learn a similar system. Give the man some time

[@sethbrand9009]

I mean you could say “give the man some time” to all transfers but they gotta pick a flop and Havertz hasn’t exactly lit the world on fire even with the City game

[@persionmonky]

@@sethbrand9009 check my other comment out. Why Single out Havertz? What about mount? Brennan Johnson? Lavia who didn’t even make the squad before he got injured? Nic Jackson who has 7 big chances missed and as many g/a as Havertz?

[@xaoc6084]

@@sethbrand9009Over other players??? Use your brain jesus. Onana, Mount, I’d even argue Caicedo was more of a flop on the first 4 games.

[@sethbrand9009]

@@persionmonkyListen I would agree that Havertz is overhated and he has a spotlight on him and I think Onana would be my answer for flop of the season so far. However, Havertz has not been that good and his price tag weighs him down. I think Jackson is a good shout but he started out with low expectations which saves him I think. The other shouts have been injured and are younger and I don’t think that can warrant being called a flop. Anyways I don’t think he’s the outstanding flop but his price tag and performances puts him in the conversation.

[@sethbrand9009]

⁠@@xaoc6084Relax I never said that. Onana would be my flop so far he’s been awful. Caicedo and Mount have played well in their last couple appearances so that’s a weird shout to me but I think Havertz is in the conversation.

[@dylanlundholm7580]

Not clouded by Sam’s delusion this week😂

[@LelouchLothric]

Henry is worse, At least Sam didn't lie and claim Gvardiol was "much younger" than Saliba😂😂😂

[@zamcentral7465]

Henry Hill’s ball knowledge reeks

[@NathanSweeney]

And compared to the other 3 it’s elite. 😂

[@crispouk3070]

Is he the one with the grey shirt? I disagreed with pretty much everything he said 😂 his ball knowledge is not there

[@furkanalbayrak5129]

Zac has absolutely 0 ball knowledge

[@scottyh1238]

Can't stand City but if you're being truely unbiased, Saliba over Gvardiol is utterly ludicrous.

[@ibotmania4284]

Saying Bellingham is going to be the best England midfielder of all time is the most reactionary statement ever omd. Also England has always been pipped to win something since 66 but never has?

[@carmellavries421]

Best show by far with it was twice a week

[@rossdoonan6220]

Best, Dagliesh, Giggs, Rush, kewell, laudrup brothers. Just a few names from “smaller” countries. Ridiculous statement

[@Postmanton]

It's obviously Onana, come on now. Saying "Havertz cost £65m!!!" as if Onana went to United on a free, he was an expensive signing too.

[@parkfc1234]

Where's Caicedo for worst signing??

[@wasupm]

Gvardiol’s stats aren’t as good as Saliba’s. They’re actually closer to Gabriel’s and even then Gabriel seems to edge him. So no he wouldn’t replace either of them. 😅

[@callme_dc]

Onana has been objectively terrible. Havertz has been exceedingly average. Price does play a factor but paying that much money for a player that loses you games makes Onana the worst signing. Havertz still contributes to the build up play (although he's been bang average and I'd prefer esr over him)

[@kaustubhverma5266]

Zac please stop interrupting

[@ChelskiEoghan]

Gvardiol is the back up left back behind Ake

[@garymaidman625]

Gvardiol has a huge ceiling, I would argue that it's higher than Saliba.

[@bassfaceinspace]

Feels like Jesus is the new Firmino. Splits opinion, but his role is as the unselfish facilitator that lets the wingers shine.

[@vcitykrb4667]

Whilst having one of the best g+a tallies per 90 in prem history

[@siimtokke3461]

About Bellingham becoming the greatest English midfielder- every "yes" argument was a complete joke. David Beckham has won 6 PL trophies, 2 FA cups, CL and La Liga. He was hyped when he was young, but now he got just one quick mention. But Bellingham, who has won only 1 major trophy, is was talked "he will win multiple La Liga's, CL's, WC and Euros". I'll remind you that Michael Owen arrived at the scene as a 19-year-old and set the world on fire. He won Ballon d'Or, but even he didn't get a mention (sure he was a striker, but still). Both Beckham and Owen went to Real. Not saying that Bellingham can't become the greatest English midfielder, but these people talked like this is set in stone which it's not. de Gea IMO was never the best shot-stopper in the world. He had great moments, but I never thought that he was the best. For every great game, he had a horrible game. Sure, during his peak there were more great games and fewer horrible games, but I never looked at de Gea and thought to myself "Oh [insert strong PL, CL, WC, or Euros team] will have a hard time with scoring against him". When Neuer was at his peak I thought that "no one would score since Neuer is in goal".

[@freefallingband]

Completely disagree with Onana being a worse signing than Havertz just because hes done more obvious bad things. Technically Ederson has cost City more games than Kalvin Phillips, does that mean hes a worse signing? Havertz gives arsenal nothing beyond a body that plays ahead of more talented promising players and cost money that could have been better spent on a contract extension for Saliba and an actual backup striker or right back. Onana, despite his clangers, very clearly gives united an option that has previously been inaccessible to them and actually had thought put into it.

[@Gav1911]

“Flop” indicates there were expectations pre signing and they haven’t lived up to the hype. No one said Havertz was an amazing signing and no one predicted he would be amazing. Onana on the other hand was literally called one of the signings of the summer before the season started by two of the people on this show. How can you possibly argue Havertz over Onana?

[@ToastMalone824]

Best football show on KZbin atm boys

[@erica2980]

Nice to see football daily being reasonable. 20 year old Jude Bellingham will definitely be the greatest of all time. Which just means that if he doesn't acheive that I guess he's a bit of a disappointment. Good to see media people not put unreasonable expectations on players.

[@garymaidman625]

No, he has the potential to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest. There are so many factors at play to say he will definitely be the greatest. Jack Wilshere had the potential to be the greatest, but injuries hampered him. Then there is Dele Alli, who at a young age, everyone was talking about him like he was the best midfielder since Gerrard, then he fell off due to mental health issues. So, potential yes, but it's not a foregone conclusion.

[@pka1013]

I dont know why people are mentioning havertz, it seems to ve purley due to the memes Has he been a dissapointment so far? Yes. Has been a disaster? No. Havertz has actually been pretty good defensively, just upfront he seems devoid of confidence

[@JotaFilip]

26:20 not seeing Man United ending on top of chelsea, chelsea have been winning every game on xG, its just a matter of time and confidence to start winning games, that Man United has too many problems in there

[@hello7032]

I can’t stand how sports debates happen. “You can’t say he won’t” that’s a fine stance except for the fact that you’re arguing something that hasn’t existed. That’s the “you can’t prove god doesn’t exist” argument.

[@lebronCFC]

United better back line then chelsea? They’ve conceded double the amount of goals so far 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@limpan9999]

James maddison is clear of jude as a purchase, great shout

[@lemonlid]

What does everyone see in Rashford and why does everyone defend him?! I don't get it

[@MUShah87]

It seems like a Utd issue, DDG really struggled first 2 3 years before he became legendary..

[@joespencelfc1307]

Suarez is the best striker ever what is Zak talking about