Debunking Araki Forgot: Parts 1 & 2

[@zesork5627]

About Kars: "Lastly, there are likely some of you out there that think Kars might come back to Earth at some point, but as the creator, I actually drew this with the intention of him never coming back again (Laughs). The line about him "deciding to stop thinking" was something that came to me naturally when I was thinking about what you would do if you were journeying through space and you became unable to return. The fact that he cannot fulfill his wish to go back--no matter how much he wants to while time continues ticking on--may be the harshest punishment possible for Kars as the Ultimate Being. That's why, unless I can come up with a logical reason for him to come back, like maybe him developing a compass-like ability, or crashing down on some other civilization, that final scene will be his last one." -Hirohiko Araki, Jojonium Volume 7 Interview.

[@DrMedicsGameSurgery]

until he went to mars

[@vasile-vladivanovici9430]

@@DrMedicsGameSurgery We don't talk about that thing

[@ulty1472]

@@vasile-vladivanovici9430 y?

[@vasile-vladivanovici9430]

@@ulty1472 That bad fever dream isn't canon

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

@@vasile-vladivanovici9430 we do talk about that.

[@Pikaman20008]

Wait, people actually think Araki forgot about Kars? It literally said in the story that he never came back to Earth.

[@weshannum4961]

Pikaman20008 shhhh... no no no no, honey this was Araki's fault, forget about all that supporting information, Araki just forgot to bring him back so he added that in

[@guidomista1459]

@@weshannum4961 he went back in time to add that in

[@bolson42]

Hmmmm.... seems like readers forgot not Araki

[@lampsonmcstand6150]

~~jorge joestar says otherwise~~

[@DarthJoshReturns]

And even if he did come back somehow, he'd be a vegetable.

[@DeathAlchemist]

I honestly forgot about the ring, didn't know people cared that much about it.

[@YeppyNope]

"The Fans Forgot"

[@marshallemmet1366]

I know right?

[@marleonka.]

Like. People expected the ring to be used as a weapon or something? It's just a memento and that's its purpose. You can't really do much with it

[@weshannum4961]

People see the potential for plot elements then assume that the writer failed to bring them into fruition when it was only them that had that idea

[@formerctgovernordannelmall1452]

Death Alchemist ikr?

[@ComatHam]

The stupidest one is Dio allegedly contradicticting himself when calling Hermit Purple the weakest stand, when he later claims that some other stand is the weakest one. I mean, do people really not understand that he is shit-talking Joseph?

[@jurtra9090]

@Godmaster correct

[@dasher3532]

Compared to the other crusaders, DIO is correct. Literally a bunch of vines, and the Stand is used for utility than attack. The other Stands the Crusaders possess are much more powerful than Hermit Purple.

[@nightfloral5010]

@Godmaster Later on Dio says that the "Survivor" stand is the weakest, and it is true! it is not even a "stand" because it is so simple.

[@noahhkun5097]

CMH he calls survivor the weakest stand

[@noahhkun5097]

paradox empty? The only stand like ability it had is to show strong parts of people’s bodies and I guess make them pissed off?

[@ashhinman1919]

You notice how people seem to rag on Speedwagon for explaining simple things, then after he dies is when most of these “Araki Forgot’s” occur?

[@harshgharlute9524]

😳

[@tsaralexis9459]

They are simply terrified by the shear presence of speed wagon

[@fukkthisnewupdate8882]

Oop-

[@JudgmenTaichi]

The only Araki Forgot that I can accept is "Araki forgot to age" so he can continue JoJo forever

[@themalegardevoir2467]

@@LyricalStarr Vampire* if he had to train hamon he wouldn't have time for Jojos

[@francescolombardi3438]

If he forgot about Hamon, why is he so good at it?

[@DraculaCronqvist]

Sadly, this is no longer true. Recent pictures do show his age. Does he still look good for his age? Yes, but he doesn't look young anymore. You can tell he's 50-something.

[@skye387]

He does forgot things like designs, accessories and such (he said it himself in that one interview video) but I think all the story/ability changes are conscious choice. He's basically writing as he goes, instead of planning all the plot points and he just doesn't care that he has to change something midway.

[@DJ-7-2-2-0]

DraculaCronqvist he’s 59

[@lucidlullaby894]

“Araki forgot about Kars” What do mean Araki forgot about him he’s floating through space as a hunk of rock how could he possibly get back

[@klutzspecter3470]

Don’t know how or why that’s a thing. Now if it’s science Kars can get back to earth’s gravitational pull. Not saying it’s possible, but I can’t compete with anime science, because Jotaro vs Josuke with healing abilities Jotaro somehow revived his grandpa.

[@heyhello8813]

Kars is a freaking monster i think he can come back

[@cdkumquat4953]

Now what would have happened if Josuke tried to heal Joseph's hand? Would Kars get brought all the way back to Earth, or would it just not do anything?

[@chikipichi5280]

That's literally what the video said

[@vapehut2326]

@@klutzspecter3470 its almost like his grandpa wasn't dead and was only dying from loss of blood and all jotaro did was re-inject the blood, just like giorno did with the snake to cure purple haze's poison

[@329link]

Character arc: completed Fans: what ever happened to that guy? Araki forgot!

[@milestone1719]

Yeah.

[@shiro-san7379]

Ikr, people like bringing some "random npc" and thinking they're some key character 😅

[@shiro-san7379]

@@fhinpus you serious still asking about that? Araki already stated he's just "random delinquent" Not to mention the flashback from koichi not josuke himself cause he's sick and the only thing he can see is the hair

[@jaycee.01]

@@shiro-san7379 Yeah i don't get why people still try to find a deeper meaning to something so simple. The delinquent was just a symbol on how it would impact josuke on how he acts and form his principles yet they want that character to be something bigger than it already is. I swear I've seen a lot of people claim it to be a time travel version of Josuke. It's really not that deep. Lol

[@darksith7282]

Poco acc had completed his little arc given how minor he was

[@jswp5]

My headcannon is that Joseph was Part 3’s healer, and that’s why the crusaders were always able to take such a beating

[@zad_rasera]

Hmm makes sense

[@skritrit28]

That makes a lot of sense, in Part 4 for example where there is no Hamon Josuke keeps his injuries for a few episodes as be cant heal himself.

[@freshboy3968]

Yet he still didn't teach it to anyone else. Goddangit old man!

[@siberiangopnik]

@@freshboy3968 Learning hamon takes time and the crusader's was on limited time before Holly dies

[@freshboy3968]

@@siberiangopnik God... dangit old man...

[@CorruptedMaterial]

Wait... People actually think body heat is supernatural and a memorabilia needs to have any other meaning?

[@derrilazkia1002]

Those people also think that minor supporting characters is supposed to be important

[@LAngel2REAL]

I think they should pay less attention to the supernatural potential and pay more attention to the homoeroticism

[@CorruptedMaterial]

@@LAngel2REAL I'd shove my bro's whole arm up my ass if it meant saving our lives.

[@uhoh6706]

Tbf... the anime did portray Speedwagon abs glowing bright orange like an oven with an active fire. Either way Speedwagon literally does say that he’s just using his body heat though so I don’t know why people thought he had heat powers

[@michaelportillo5663]

Also tbf, you even hear sizzle coming from Speedwagon's abs

[@Xion009]

The only people who think Speedwagon's body heat is a special ability are vampires who have no body heat

[@DamageMaximo]

Yeah, lmao

[@blokvader8283]

Yeah it was literally just exaggerated to make the scene better

[@kingsomething4356]

@@blokvader8283 exatcly.Animes and mangas are overdramatic.

[@blokvader8283]

@@kingsomething4356 Same with the Janken kid vs Rohan fight I dont think they genuinely jumped 10 meters into the air, it wasnt definitely just DP making the shots big epic

[@50LE5URVlV0R]

@@blokvader8283 ngl that janken kid was a real annoying bastard, almost as much as yoshikage’s father

[@qoyote]

There are barely any "Araki forgot" moments, a whole lot of "the fans forgot", and just as much of "Araki intentionally ignored something he didn't like to tell a better story".

[@Karma-lx8ny]

Super Neko Majin there are a few mainly because he’s been writing for 30+ years over 8 parts so yeah he’s gonna forget stuff but it’s more “araki got bored”. That being said I haven’t heard half of these “araki forgot” except the hamon rock thing.

[@flavindabre818]

Still one of the most prominent Araki forgot moment is the scene of the man who saved Josuke as a child. We don't know who he was.

[@gideonjones8088]

@@flavindabre818 I'm pretty sure that guy's identity wasn't expanded on because Araki just didn't think it mattered. A random stranger helped Josuke and his mother when they needed help, and they never saw him again. That's all.

[@scratch2086]

So... he's a bad writer then?

[@alfa01spotivo]

Drekaban Not really. Changing small stuff is fine if it benefits the story. It isn't real life or a documentary

[@huytungnguyen119]

Basically many of Araki Forgots are caused by not reading the manga/not paying attention

[@Maxine_302]

Yes

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

I can't stress it enough how I hate these types of statement. It's a horrendous made up excuse for people to act superior by spending they entire weeks on finding little details, without enjoying the manga itself.

[@droidpenguin3648]

Yep It's always reader forgot

[@joaquinaugusto625]

@@m.huseinaqilah1717 yeah it's totally anime watchers fault that the anime doesn't comunicate things correctly

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

@@joaquinaugusto625 ok?

[@reshiram915]

Araki forgot that the "Thunder Cross Split Attack" is the perfect technique of attack and defense,so Dio killed Dire

[@derrilazkia1002]

Oh noes! Thunder Cross Split Attack too strong! Must kill user before too late!

[@TheShyGamer]

this comment has made me lose an inhuman amount of brain cells

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

Oh crap Hamon Beat is obliterated.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

@@TheShyGamer have a sense of humor my dude

[@theraymunator]

I have an explanation... . . YOU FELL FOR IT! THUNDER CROSS SPLIT ATTACK!

[@glubbsz]

They hated Hamon Beat because he told them the truth

[@JustSomeRandomTony]

Underrated comment

[@svampgurka]

who hated hamon beat?

[@soullesseater9327]

@@svampgurka 120 people hate him

[@bromomento5913]

"why are you booing me, I'm right"

[@svampgurka]

@@soullesseater9327 :(

[@pfitz9346]

The whole "they forgot hamon heals people" thing is a little absurd. How do they think Joseph walks away from all his battles? He's usually beat to absolute shit but he uses hamon to heal. How could he have fought Kars literally like 20 minutes after Wammu nearly killed him if not for hamon? He literally couldn't stand after the Wamu fight and had internal organ damage but he was in tip top shape ready to run when he gets Kars to chase him. His hamon being weak after the fight wasn't because he used it all on Wamu, he barely used any in that fight. He used it all healing his massive internal organ damage and broken ribs.

[@makchot3263]

Araki does hv a lot instances of bad writing though. A lot of the debunking done in this video is basically giving araki and the show the benefit of a doubt instead of concrete evidence

[@makchot3263]

@Covid 19 what forgot? I said that araki has a lot of bad writing, i didn't say forgot

[@Shikaschima]

Doesn't Joseph mention something abour healing/resting in the hotel shortly before Ceasar's death?

[@Shikaschima]

@@makchot3263 i mean you can also turn it the exact opposite way an saying that people are absolutely overthinking things or just straightout ignoring stuff that is right in front of them. You can say it's beenfit of the doubt but in many cases it is just fans being pretty much standing on their theories (that have never been canon) and not being willing to admit that they were wrong.

[@makchot3263]

@@Shikaschima nah man of all shows jojo has one of the most plot holes it can hv in it that can impact the story really hard

[@utterclown1580]

I love the way that the problem people had with Dire was that he was using Hamon while a severed head, not the fact he was talking and moving as a severed head.

[@anueutsuho7425]

"Lungs are vital for Hamon users" "Thank god I'm not a Hamon user, so I don't need lungs"

[@nickcasillas1618]

For Part 4: Araki forgot that Rohan has to show people his manga for Heaven’s Door to work. Explanation: Rohan’s literal next appearance after he’s introduced he explains that he’s been training with his stand and he doesn’t need to do that anymore.

[@jondo5114]

people will also say "well what about when he said it wouldn't work on people like jouske yet it works on him in the high way star battle" but people forget, at the time it didn't work on josuke, he was so raged out, he didn't see the manga. rohan just assumed it wouldn't work on josuke. his ability still won't work on certain people. only difference is that it's easier to use now. he can draw in the air to see if the person reacts but usually rohan just simply takes chances and tries.

[@weshannum4961]

People are kinda retarded. Rohan didn't even reveal his stand in the first fight, so obviously he must not have a visual stand, thats the only conclusion that makes sense, if i didnt know this off the bat then it cant be true later

[@DissedRedEngie]

@@weshannum4961 Like seriously, every time heaven's door's ability is activated, the victim needs to see the character that later became the stand. Rohan just learned to draw it mid air to summon it. While stand stats are bullshit for the most part, heaven's door has A in development potential.

[@TungstenViper]

also at the beginning, whenever he uses Heaven's Door he draws Pink Dark Boy on thin air with a pen.

[@RedGoner]

I mean, even though that's less of a "he forgot" moment, it's still a moment of bad writing for a number of reasons. 1. Character's ability changes off-screen 2. Character's ability changes in a way that doesn't really affect the fights they appear in (HD is literally useless against Boy II Man, Highway Star, and Cheap Trick anyway, so speed is irrelevant) 3. Character's ability could've been improved in a much smarter way (if he drew HD on the back of his hand every morning then he wouldn't need to draw it in mid-air whenever he sees a potential threat, he could just show the back of his hand)

[@blogofbored3224]

Araki forgets a lot. But he remembers three things: names, faces, and your address if he catches you talking shit.

[@blogofbored3224]

*absolutely nothing*

[@kirbothepinkball1324]

Wait what

[@thejackinator3280]

BlogofBored : Araki forgets a lot. Also BlogofBored : Araki forgets nothing I guess BlogofBored forgets things as much as Araki

[@blogofbored3224]

The Jackinator tru

[@christmasgrinch4017]

@Killer Bean Star Platinum’s same type of stand as Made in Heaven and Bites the Dust /j

[@JowoeBunchaNumbers]

Araki: *draw a random rock in the background of a panel* JoJo fans: BUT WHY DIDN'T THE ROCK COME BACK IN THE NEXT PART?!

[@Nijwol707true]

Straizo shows to visibly age and even has that be his motivation for rejecting his humanity, yet people think Joseph aging is a plot hole

[@djmary6454]

i think its a case of how quickly he aged compared to straizo and lisa lisa, which i just assumed the reason he aged faster then those 2 is b/c he just stop using it that much and both straizo and lisa lisa are dedicated hamon users who practice all the time so theyd see the anti aging part of hamon be more effective. Though that doesnt explain why part 4 joseph aged even faster then that since tompetty was like 100ish (if i remember right) when he trained zeppeli and 120ish during phantom blood and he barely aged even with the same logic of joseph slacking he shouldnt be a diaper grampa

[@youssefsaad9277]

Mary popoe the reason other hamon users age less is because not only do they practice it regularly but also live full hamon lifestyles which dictates what they eat and how the live, think of it as some scummy pseudo enlightened lifestyle but actually real and on crack. Joseph is shown to be lazy and not dedicated enough to follow through with that. His aging process is slowed in part 3 because of hamon where he has the looks of an old man but his body is much stronger. He ages so fast in part 4 is probably because the more you age the faster the aging will take place especially if you dropped hamon completely because there was no other reason to have it. He did pick it back up in the end of part 4 to be able to raise the invisible baby. Also, Joseph is not completely senile in part 4 as there are moments were he talks like he used to in part 3 and I think he's faking it or doesn't care enough to try and talk normally all the time as he has accepted his age.

[@djmary6454]

@@youssefsaad9277 yeah didnt really think about the life style stuff outside of the training tbh since it doesnt make that big of a difference. but yeah joseph got hit by gravity hard since gravity is part of why we physically age

[@romusa10]

@@youssefsaad9277 because the stone mask,vampire and dio are no more,thus theres no need to train his hamon,plus he drinks and eat junk food, and his most hated phrase are work hard

[@Magnet_Chaos]

@@romusa10 There is a reason to train though. To keep that bod.

[@babbit09]

Real talk, I feel bad for Santana. He was orphaned and kidnapped as a baby, then abandoned by his family's murderers/adopted "family," only to be stuck in his stone form for all eternity. Same fate as Kars essentially

[@derushcore9514]

Lol wait wtf are you talking about

[@devyn.]

@@derushcore9514 Santana? Have you watched jojo?

[@ondururagittandeska2004]

Except Kars Commited mass genocide and killed Santana and Wamuu's parents

[@MediocreTasteTM]

@@ondururagittandeska2004 he literally said that

[@ondururagittandeska2004]

@@MediocreTasteTM Did He I had NOOO idea

[@4glte142]

Can you address Kakyoin’s “ability” to harm people he made a painting of? Even though he’s clearly just using the painting to command Hierophant to attack Jotaro in that scene, people legitimately think that this is actually an ability that Araki forgot about.

[@Langas_LVDC]

And it's hilarious when people think that.

[@AkhKhetSahRenBaKaIbShutSekhem]

4G LTE It‘s even implied that Hierophant has the ability to turn invisible during the DIO‘s World Arc. This would explain how he managed to attack Jotaro without him seeing Hierophant. The painting was probably a stylistic choice to make the scene look more dramatic and cool in the Manga. If it weren‘t there then Kakyoin whould just stand there menacingly doing nothing. Not as cool as the painting.

[@CrashBandicootFan100]

The painting and the puppet could've been just to divert people's attention and make the green power ranger shooting emeralds a bigger surprise, or probably explore "What stands could be". Since they basically are psychic powers, so using tools or something (like Ebony Devil and a puppet) could've been an initial idea. It's also probably a sign of "Kakyoin is being controlled, isn't being himself" and the way he fights and acts for the rest of the Part is a conscious effort to go against his first appearance. Araki also uses a lot of Tarot meanings in his character developing. Look up upright and reversed meanings of Tarot cards, explains a bunch of "plot-holes" like why DIO decided to sit on his ass for most of the Part.

[@Radamor]

@@CrashBandicootFan100 Nice u bring up Tarrot, 'cause I noticed that a lot of ppl seem to think that cards are there 'cause it's epic or sth like that but characters and stands refer to cards for a reason

[@pleasecallmedoku7215]

In the OVA is show that it was a single tentacle who has more sense since we never saw him shooting a single emerald

[@ZefVolk]

"Will Zeppeli demonstrates hamon by punching a frog..." A perfectly normal thing in the world of Jojo.

[@mamoru_zombie]

Some italian demonstrates the making of some type of meat by punching a frog, not harming him in the process, and breaking stone under it using the power of sun. Yep, sounds completely normal and relatable

[@TheBlandestGuy]

@@mamoru_zombie another italian uses a frog as a phone, so yes, it is normal.

[@P0PG03S]

@@TheBlandestGuy frogs are the ultimate stands

[@Magi_H2U]

A mafioso that once used a frog as a shield against attackers would agree with this statement.

[@FrMZTsarmiral]

Alternate title: READ THE MANGA

[@Lee-wb5yx]

this is a video about shaming anime only watcher smh

[@DamageMaximo]

Manga readers be like: "yOu sHoUlD rEaD ThE MaNgA!!!"

[@arthurreitz9540]

RTFM

[@whyfi8760]

Mike Hawkizard imagine not being able to read in 2020 lol

[@whyfi8760]

Alexfc Nintendo imagine being illiterate with access to the internet

[@ewan231]

I honestly think that the ring 'plothole' is just fans being sad over a missed opportunity for Jonathan to propose to Erina with it.

[@makzionut7096]

Why would you want to see that scene? Like it would not add anything to the plot, it wouldnt be interesting, fun, cute, it would just be there for fanservice. Jojo does not have many romance scenes why would Araki include this? There are only 2 kisses in Jojo and they are both forced. First one is Dio sexually assauting Erina and the second one, Dio wanting to suffocate Hot Pants.

[@connorrose_0447]

Makz Ionut woah when did that Diego scene happen?!

[@mobius273]

@@makzionut7096 i think it would be cute.

[@Solimonti]

@@makzionut7096 but it would be nice narativly that Jonathan used the ring his father gave him to Erina, since they got married and did romancy stuff, most likely just not shown, and it would be a sweet moment

[@inFERNo1976]

@@makzionut7096 There was also the one scene with Koichi and Yukako in the Cinderella episode.

[@ultimateninjaboi]

Half of these are just "this character/item isnt a constant part of the story." Like... do people think every character that ever shows up needs to actively continue being part of the plotline until they die? Like... side characters are just not a thing to some people, i guess.

[@ginogatash4030]

they don't have character permanence

[@landonhamilton2882]

“The ring will come back in some way” man I wasn’t even attentive enough to know that Jonathan’s dad had a ring

[@lookatmyfacern]

same

[@MrLCGO]

Broke: Araki forgot Woke: Fans forgot or didn't pay attention while reading/watching Jojo.

[@francescolombardi3438]

Truly Woke: Fans forgot or didn't pay attention, while also pointing out that Araki isn't perfect, and he may retcon/change/rewrite the rules. It's like a Stand in itself: it EVOLVES

[@mentalpopcorn2304]

Giornos stand and part 4 are the greatest examples of "araki forgot" I'm referring to part 4 because araki forgot jotaro existed as I'm pretty sure he'd be able to hear literal explosions when he's right around the corner

[@monchete9934]

Woke requiem: Realizing that Araki, like almost every other comic/manga writer, retcons a lot

[@filipbabovic8474]

@@mentalpopcorn2304 If you are reffering to life shot power it was still there just no specifically shown like in the fight with bucciarati.

[@sono1951]

@@monchete9934 actually no , there is a lot of good Manga writers that actually give a shit and that are consistant with there story telling. Stop giving excuses to Araki and accept the criticism or else he won't get better. We'll end up with more part 8s .

[@doppio7368]

Wait, IS POCOLOCO A ALTERNATE UNIVERSE COUNTERPART OF POCO?

[@stea20]

yes he is

[@xplorer2111]

Perhaps

[@italianfoodname534]

How tf did you not figure that out nigga?

[@Ayahuasca98]

Yes!

[@diegosupremacy570]

Yep, I'm pretty sure he is a mix of Poco and Smokey

[@Legomicroman]

Rest of JoJo Fanbase: "Araki forgot." Hamon Beat: *NO NO NO*

[@skye387]

I thought a lot of people said that as a meme rather than actually believe that Araki actually forgot?

[@danieln6613]

While Spice Girl appears behind him and wags her finger

[@klutzspecter3470]

Remember when spice girl with set up to be a useful stand but it literally useless until the plot calls until she’s useful.

[@Legomicroman]

@@klutzspecter3470 bro, do you even sentence?

[@klutzspecter3470]

Yudron Micros “bro, do you even sentence?” Sorry, I can’t fathom the context of this sentence and it’s grammatical errors. Could you restate your question with grammatical corrections?

[@George-vf6st]

Like half of these amount to "Araki forgot to do shitty fanfic tier writing"

[@Hamon_Beat]

lol

[@GoGoveller9088]

1:11 "Hamon will be unable to kill them as long as they are stoned" So the ancient gods of fitness are also the ancient gods of stoners

[@vogonp4287]

You are saying that Kars got too high?

[@HAA400]

@@vogonp4287 u could also say that wammu and essidissi got too hot

[@Cobalt985]

hamon is just taking really big bong hits continuously and that's why you need to train

[@JohnnysBrainfart4372]

I read stoned/stoners as boned/boners.

[@captainzoltan7737]

I think that's what pisses people off. The fact that Speedwagon explains simple obvious shit people already know, but then unclear stuff isn't really explained at all. Alot of these "akari forgot" points I agree are stupid, but I do think some of them weren't explained well in the anime.

[@beatsbyelvis6890]

weird that fans of a story with such strong continuity has such a strong focus on plotholes. there are so many work of fictions with actual plotholes and nobody seems to give a shit.

[@aayushpatel6471]

Exactly.a lot of these araki forgot moments are nitpicks at best

[@fuckk-popandtiktok3388]

hxh has a lot of plotholes the fantards ignore

[@D_YellowMadness]

I think a big part of it is that they get too excited about the idea of finding a plot hole because Araki's so good at avoiding them that it's like a treasure hunt.

[@daveshusband2606]

Demon slayer has a fuck ton of plot holes and nobody cares

[@popcultureoverdosed]

@@D_YellowMadness Araki creates tons of plot holes

[@artskalp8488]

2:37 "Extremely Minor Moment" Church of Speedwagon: What i'm about to say may go against Hamon Beat's teachings

[@cavvaldiv5536]

Is it bad that I know exactly what this is talking about without clicking the timecode😂

[@Apple-fj4bu]

WOAH more like HAMON BEAT forgot ARE WE GONNA SKIP THE FACT THAT ARAKI LET A DOG LIVE IN PART 2?

[@SuperPeterok]

That was Kars

[@shane4429]

@@SuperPeterok kars let the dog live so araki punished him by making him freeze in space for all of eternity

[@DestructiveDan1]

@@shane4429 fax

[@andrewlance3898]

Don't forget Police in Part 4. He only lives because Koichi is a reliable guy

[@yesno8273]

i am literally shaking and crying rn the AUDACITY of araki to not murder dogs

[@beenis08]

"Araki forgot" = the reader forgot

[@bandin0109]

yes

[@user-tk6wf2rc5i]

Fax

[@milestone1719]

Absolutely.

[@saladman3915]

Most of the times its fuckers who think they know a lot about JJBA by only watching clips on YT

[@wendel8296]

my man polnareff was nerfed at the amazing level remember when he could take off the silver chariot armor to get fast enough to create afterimages? i know araki forgot because after ONE fight scene it's totally ignored or better forgotten, i mean it's not like polnareff died for a guy who said he could die with an accurate attack and who for a few seconds of difference was left with the arm bleeding like hell

[@mattwo7]

5:51 Isn't "So eventually, Kars stopped thinking" literally one of the most famous lines from Jojo's?

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

Yeah

[@alexplayer77]

I feel like you missed the 'Araki forgot' about how Straizo and Joseph aged, unlike Will And Lisa Lisa. People always forget about Tompetty who was already old, and even died of old age between Parts 1 and 2, also the fact that Straizo in part 2 and Joseph in part 3 are way older, in their late 60s, than Will and Lisa Lisa who were 50.

[@Hamon_Beat]

Gonna bring it up in the Part 3 video when I talk about Old Joseph.

[@JMBoote1]

The reason for Joseph is pretty clear-cut, to be honest. He didn't keep up with his Hamon training. He was always a slacker, and only really learned Hamon properly when it became life/world-threatening. That, and he saw what constant Hamon training does to a person, and wanted to live and grow old with Suzi Q like a normal man would.

[@theraymunator]

I think it was xForts who explained that is because Hamon training is what prevents it's practicioners from aging, not Hamon itself. Besides, at 50 years people don't actually look that old.

[@francescolombardi3438]

@@JMBoote1And be honest, if you were in your 80s looking like your 50-60ish, people would call bull

[@Magnet_Chaos]

To be fair. We don't know how old Tompetty was.

[@darksonicyt5430]

“Araki forgot about Kars” Me: My brain has stopped thinking

[@TheAnimationStationTAS]

Kars Club

[@stopchangingmyname5483]

Eventually, GemerlYT stopped thinking.

[@somebodystolemysprite7721]

🚫Brain.exe has stop working

[@narrcisistt]

yeah u died

[@alejandrobolin5224]

The ring one specially bugs me: "I thought it was going to be used later when Jonathan proposes to Erina and it was going to be passed from generation to generation" as if that ever happens in life. It was just a minor plot point that was never given that much weight, and then that guy just goes with his "no, it's just lazy writing", no it is not, it's putting your priorities in your story and knowing what's actually important and what isn't, not every single goddamn plot point is important.

[@CTHD13]

Bolin's Show To be fair, one of the show’s central themes is bloodlines, and carrying tradition from generation to generation. The ring would have fit nicely with this. Is it lazy writing that it wasn’t used? Nah, who cares

[@otroweonllamadoseba]

What if the ring went in Joseph's cut arm?

[@munchwad]

A lot of "Araki Forgot"-moments are actually cases of "Araki changed his mind".

[@Harrinsain]

Thank god someone is finally taking the initiative to set things straight here

[@punkblooky9955]

they're being set straizo

[@sono1951]

Try to defend stand physics shit weed

[@klutzspecter3470]

So No? Try to defend fantasy physics my dude.

[@Harrinsain]

@So No? what? No need to be aggressive, dude

[@sono1951]

@@klutzspecter3470 its set in real life using real physics . araki tries to use real physics nonstop thats why i complained about it. he uses tries to use physics like a genuis but doesnt know what real physics is. he gets his information off of snapple caps.

[@ethanchoi7036]

Araki: And Kars is never to be seen again. Fans: ArAKi fOrgOt AbOut kA- Araki: NEVER. TO. BE. FUCKING. SEEN. AGAIN!

[@ceos1389]

I always thought that Santana was killed by the Speedwagon Foundation and then they used that information to rebuild Stroheim and the weapons that they used in the final battle, since Stroheim already knew how to harm and kill Kars

[@threefingerdeathpunch4259]

You fool GERMAN SCIENCE IS THE BEST IN ZA WORLDO, THEM AMERICANS COLDNT BUILD A BODY THAT GOOD IN 100 DECADES

[@nazaiiz5081]

@@threefingerdeathpunch4259 Sekai ichi!!!

[@stef__an]

@@nazaiiz5081 Ah jeez- what the hell!

[@potato_nugget]

why would the speedwagon foundation help the nazis? and if they did why couldn't they use that information to save kakyoin?

[@stef__an]

@@potato_nugget kakyoin was dead when the Speedwagon foundation got there, he died of blood loss really quickly

[@AmanojakuPenguin]

Nice, those "where character go do Araki forget?" type questions are always annoying, as if we need to see every single action of every single character at all times. Better to leave some characters' futures up to the imagination than bloat the series with "Oh and x, y, z and aa did this, that, blah blah blah"

[@emotionalguidanc3205]

The Insane Penguin I’m more Annoyed by the fugone meme

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

Yeah so Jotaro piped Anne.....

[@benjaminborkowski12]

dude i NEED to know what happened to the fat police officer at the Begging of part 2, Araki forgot about him smh

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

@@benjaminborkowski12 what about that cactus man from part 2 he's my favorite character but Araki forgot smh my dude.

[@onyx7ven10en5]

a DOOR text overedited to perfection y’all asking unimportant questions y’all need to ask what happened to the guys carrying dio’s coffin at the end of part 1 they had such an impact on the story but Araki just forget about them, they all could’ve been the villains of part 4

[@JFLEstudios]

Wait what?! Wired Beck destroyed Joseph's Clacker Volleys? While I personally never cared that much that Joseph didn't use them again, I completely forgot about that! Was that only in the manga? (Haven't rewatched the P2 Anime in a long time tho) Edit: I just rewatched that scene and YES it's also in the anime. It's funny how people always complain about Araki forgetting things when they clearly are the ones who forget stuff.

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

Bro.... You realize he can make another one?

[@thomasknight1726]

Wh-how? where would he get the materials, the tools to carve clacker balls, the time since he goes right into the Wham fight with only a short detour to get the stone?

[@derrilazkia1002]

@@m.huseinaqilah1717 Man, my funky balls weapon that isn't effective against my enemies got destroyed easily... Should i make a new one?

[@offbrandbleach2604]

@@m.huseinaqilah1717 Please explain to me how tf can you make effective steel clackers on the fly.

[@m.huseinaqilah1717]

@@derrilazkia1002 bro.... Part 3 exist?

[@notvex3987]

"Akari forgot about kars" Yes because we didnt see Kars get flung to space like an unwanted child at the end of part 2

[@thebaseandtriflingcreature174]

The hell are you doing to your unwanted kids?

[@Rincewindl]

"Another thing people bring up is the motiviation of Straizo" ARE YOU KIDDING ME HE LITERALLY SAYS IT.

[@makzionut7096]

Another thing that bugs me is "Araki forgot no one can just deflect the emerald splash". First of all, Jotaro is the first stand user Kakyoyin fights so he had no way of knowing it coulf not be deflected. He was under DIO's control and was cocky. Additionally, that statement is only to show Star Platinums strength. Aside from SP ,the only stand that deflects the emerald splash is the world, the same stand as SP. The other enemies only dodge it and the sun did not deflect it, it just was not affected since its a sun.

[@threefingerdeathpunch4259]

Plus that's only on the dub

[@juanjobj3]

no one can just deflect the emerald splash

[@FelipePalha66]

I always wonder if emerald splash actually created real emeralds

[@weshannum4961]

also the fact that what a character says isnt always the truth

[@DissedRedEngie]

*redacted*

[@HayatoStarGod]

It seems that a lot of "Araki Forgot" Situations can be explain by *READING THE MANGO*

[@DERyuga]

I read the manga and still feel like there are a lot of moments that could have been portrayed or written better. Like what the hell is up with all the weird ass analogies and metaphors this manga uses? There are a lot of unnecessary moments that are in the show that do make it very "jojo's" but most of the time on subsequent viewings they feel even more unnecessary than before.

[@alexwagner23]

Wamms Shadow

[@menchacism5327]

The mango?

[@lCore17]

Or simply paying attention.

[@rienafaire9286]

@@alexwagner23 it's was used again in the shiza vs wamm .

[@gibbs1716]

I feel like most people knew about the clackers getting broken, but the intro in the anime shows them a lot and puts too much emphasis on them when they really only matter for like 2 scenes

[@theace.8991]

In Part 3 Polnareff and Kakyoin are shrinking their stands to help Joseph, the reason that isn't used anymore is because it consumes a large amount of stand energy and the users needs to be calm

[@petruciosxd1374]

It happens again briefly in part 5 and part 8. While Moody Blues is playing Narancia going into the pipe inside the pipe, Abacchio reverts Moody Blues back to its original form, but since Moody Blues wouldn't fit it untransforms at a smaller size. Yoshikage Kira (Joestar) uses Killer Queen sends miniature Sheer Heart Attacks into a blood vessel.

[@adrianandusiak3249]

Plus I do not think that shrinking stand is extremely useful. Of course it has its uses, but people who mention it act as if it was an extremely op ability.

[@THEDeathWizard87]

That and there’s just no other scenario in which shrinking your stand would be useful

[@derrilazkia1002]

It's also the same reason why we don't get SUTAA FINGGAAA anymore. Stabbing people with your 1m finger isn't exactly smart when you can punch them to oblivion.

[@afif5496]

Also they have no reason to use it again

[@sirius6738]

Poco was the one who told DIO about heaven and Santana was sent by Valentine in the SBR universe to became the first rock human

[@yobrethren]

Makes sense

[@LunarOverdrive]

OMG!!!1!1! THEY SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT BACC CaRz BY HAVING HIM BEING HIT BY THE INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATIONO IN PART6 FLINGING HIM BACK DONW 2 ERTH!111!!! smh araki forgot

[@datpoyo4900]

Imagine C-Moon Accidentally attracting Karz back to Earth and now Jolyne and Pucci has to deal With his Bullshit

[@Crabgar]

@@datpoyo4900 he's been floating in space for 70 years at that point, he got shot out of orbit so he's probably floating next to jupiter now

[@christmasgrinch4017]

@@Crabgar Jupiter is really far away, I don’t think Kars would be able to get there because floating rocks have slow speed.

[@DanielFerreira-ez8qd]

@@Crabgar It's probably much less, he got just barely enough speed to leave orbit, so I'd guess he's closer than that

[@daveshusband2606]

@@Crabgar I'd guess hes still in orbit, cuz time flows way faster in space than earth, so 70 years on earth would be like 1/2 years in space, maybe more but you get the point, also planets are extremely far apart, so it's impossible for him to even he close to Mars or Venus

[@kristofgriffin384]

I think what people mean by "Araki forgot about Kars" is that Kars is never mentioned again, mostly because he was influential in the creation of the stone masks, thus being responsible for Dio becoming a vampire. However, though not directly mentioned, Joseph does mention the fight with Kars when Polnareff asks him about his prosthetic hand.

[@westide3050]

Araki doesn't forget, he simply changes the story to best make it entertaining for people to read.

[@user-hp6jn8zj7b]

Earth Wind and Fire tho

[@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838]

D4C tho

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838 I mean, that was a good change. Original D4C was confusing as fuck.

[@finjaquetemumnomeaqui4838]

@@umcaraqualquer3640 verdade

[@francescolombardi3438]

Araki is a Stand BECAUSE HE EVOLVES

[@squeaphily7325]

For all the people who are like : "oh dio said that hermit purple is the weakest but then he says survivor is the weakest!!!" Every time Dio appears in part 6, it's before he even said that hermit purple was the weakest stand

[@4quatic_r0se]

And also Dio says it as an insult not as fact

[@crystalalumina]

Yeah, it was literally a mocking, I doubt DIO would go like "Joseph Joestar, your stand could be considered weak, even tho stands are not exactly sorted by their damage ratio, but rather how the user makes use of their abilities" no Jesus, DIO literally wanted to kill Joseph, not sit down and talk about stands with him.

[@jadoc3767]

@@crystalalumina imagine DIO sitting down Joseph on a rooftop in Egypt telling him why his stand is weak, with scientific evidence.

[@christophersamueldearlysih262]

@@jadoc3767 Dio: Joseph Joestar... your stand is weak! Because you see, based on my calculations your stand has the least attack ratio of every stand in this series! The best thing your shitty stand can do is break stuff for a picture of my elegant body! Which is perhaps why you are never included in almost any fights and is just there to just say your stupid catchphrase!

[@deadpoolrockz6410]

I entirely support this video, mainly because I find most plot holes to exist mainly due to the audience/readers to either fail to use their own minds to form their own conclusions or expect every single detail to be spoon fed to them. I'm not trying to offend anyone, but we can't always expect the writer to explain everything and instead we must think and use our brains to better understand them ourselves via commen sense and use of context clues.

[@YaMamasAss]

You're completely right though. Shuckmeister is easily one of the biggest people online that kinda furthers that attitude. The dude rides high and mighty on his opinions.

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@@YaMamasAss Often entirely wrong and illogical opinions which can be shut down in seconds... IMO, Shuckmeister is one of the biggest problems in the JoJo community. His humor and stop motions are cool, but most of his content regarding the story is horrible, and spreads misinformation everywhere.

[@YaMamasAss]

@@umcaraqualquer3640 His content when it comes to actual story content is terrible. Just legit bad. He gets stuff wrong, constantly talks about it from his opinion and massive love for SBR that he thinks every other part needs to compete with for some reason, and just kinda circlejerks the idea that things are forgotten and never brought up. Even when they have entire reasons as to them not showing up.

[@umcaraqualquer3640]

@@YaMamasAss True. He's the one who popularized most of the "Araki Forgot" shit we see nowadays. Also, Steel Ball Run is, indeed, the best Part of JoJo, but for fuck's sake no one needs to hear that every single minute.

[@DERyuga]

I think people overestimate how much audiences NEED to be spoon fed though. Visual storytelling needs to communicate things in SECONDS so the story doesnt slow down. Thats what makes jojo's a bit of a harder read because if you look away for a second sometimes you can miss something, or the way emphasis works in this series can be bonkers. Thats why people have the complaints that they do, though arguably a lot of them are very nitpicky and annoying/wrong.

[@robertwoods3871]

Watching this series really makes me appreciate what an absolute mad genius Araki really is

[@bunnizamy]

"Your uninformed observation does not make you smarter than the media you consume. It just means you weren't paying attention" - Lindsay Ellis

[@z-v-x8324]

*mic drop*

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

*Glares at Egoraptor*

[@lukebazin5836]

Finally a man to beat shuckmeister

[@DERyuga]

honestly it doesnt take much, Shuckmeister can be a little annoying. Scrub for Hire is where it's at

[@laurencebetteridge8633]

@@DERyuga Completely agree, had to unsub recently because it was a little too much, I don't dislike him but his content's just so sub par

[@thebariobro7664]

I'ma just say that he seems to regret those videos and as seen in a few tweets. Can't say anything about him making a third one besides him seeming to take it as a joke.

[@lukebazin5836]

@@thebariobro7664 then why does he still endorse them in other vids

[@thebariobro7664]

@@lukebazin5836 which one? I'm not actually sure I only remember him saying he'll make a new one.

[@WaveyDavey645]

4:09 I think given how common 'a minor character being overconfident leads to their death' is in fiction nowadays, it makes modern readers expect Santana to come back. Seriously, I can't think of many other situations where noname characters get to laugh about having a villain captured without being horrifically murdered shortly after.

[@angrypepe7615]

2:55 this is proof that people are actually this dense and not everyone who says araki forgot aren't just joking I especially hate the guy at the bottom who says its LAZY to not expand on a tiny detail that I completely forgot about. The ring was just a symbol of Mary joestar and nothing else I find it absurd that people actually expected anything from it.

[@KotoCrash]

The issue is once something turns into a joke, people start desperately looking for examples. The ring and Poco are perfect examples, theres no indication they need to be followed up on.

[@givlupi2686]

I was expecting this to be "well achkyually [complicated theory that was obviously not intended by araki]". Good job not doing that.

[@DamageMaximo]

oddly specific but ok

[@MediocreTasteTM]

@@DamageMaximo not really, they thought he was going to explain away all of these with weird theories and not actual evidence that they weren't forgotten. It was hella general and a common trope in fandoms

[@it6647]

0:44-Hamon vs Stones 1:34-Hamon healing 2:00-Dire situation 2:40-Speedwagon is hot 2:51-George's ring 3:29-Minor characters 3:56-Santana as a rock 4:24-Joseph's Clackers 4:35-Santana's name 5:13-Straizo's motivation 5:50-Araki forgotters stopped thinking

[@BlueThing64]

A lot of these seem to just be people expecting things to happen that don’t.

[@Onyxolotl]

Araki forgot about the rock Johnathan picked up after getting healed with Hamon, that rock was very moved by the sight of such a mystical power and based on his dialogue he was clearly being set up to join the group after Johnathan's training was complete.

[@JcadeH1]

So you're telling me speedwagon's super naturally chiseled abs dont have super natural powers. Yeah ok buddy

[@pokekiller787x]

Best comment😆😆😆

[@uhthatcanine860]

Anime jojo fan:”araki forgot” Hamon Beat: *THE MANGA*

[@PauloJrchannel]

「The Manga」 is Hamon Beat's Stand.

[@averagecat4220]

Paulo Jr. Stand user: Hamon Beat Stand name: The Manga Stand ability: The Manga has the ability to prove viewers of the anime Jojo's Bizarre Adventure that what they call: "Araki forgot moments" are in fact, that Araki didn't forget, but that the viewers in fact, were the ones who forgot.

[@sol8449]

_Za Manga_ has stats that consists of all As

[@jabariwiththebois5765]

@@averagecat4220 Shouldn't the ability of the Manga be to prove that Araki didn't forget but actually the people who made the anime adaptation made a mistake?? Because in those cases the fans didn't forget they just went with what they had seen...

[@challengeaccepted5613]

Araki forgot aging and rejected his humanity

[@eduardobarros3986]

Clearly Araki was planning for Poco to go on an voyage alone to the himalayas after his adventure with Johnathan, becoming a super buff hamon master and helping the group against Dio. *B U T A R A K I F O R G O T* /jk

[@Mario-ps1hu]

I was waiting for this video patiently!

[@badlandschugsnumber1fan123]

About speedwagon: How come he didn’t fight dio since CLEARLY he’s the strongest in the whole manga/anime

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

The same reason why jesus/Dire didn't kill dio with the split thunder cross attack: it was not his battle to fight.

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 it's a joke

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

@@mcgoldenblade4765 yes and I added to the joke. What about you huh?

[@mcgoldenblade4765]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 i dunno. I didn't really think it was funny.

[@stale_cheeto]

Funny.

[@tubesurfer8625]

From my perspective a lot of the araki forgot’s were less that araki forgot and more that he has a habit of sometimes loading one too many bullets in a Chekhov’s gun, a thing fulfils it’s purpose and people want more

[@Smarackto]

finally someone mentions the " hamon has no effect on stone" thing ...Even IF that were true william zeppeli clearly kept the frog hamon induced to not harm it while it transfers its punch. even in their own "unlogic" they would still be wrong.

[@doornumb]

When Jotaro said "No stand power can revive a man." or something like that, It was before part 5 came out. Jotaro didn't knew Giorno's stand. The scene when Jotaro heals Joseph, he used DIO's Joestar blood and used Star Platinum to pump his heart.

[@lCore17]

Bruno wasn't "revived" he got zombified, if you account the time window part 5 takes place he probably got a day or two of undeath, which he used to the fullest as he did not need to sleep, by the time we get to the colosseum his body is already failing, he only gets extra time by changing into a healthy Diavolo.

[@nappy9987]

@@lCore17 Didnt he lose his eyesight and began failing to walk as well?

[@PlankDot]

@@nappy9987 yep. At that point Bruno could only see the souls of people.

[@nappy9987]

@@PlankDot so ya he wasnt revived his body was dead his souls was just guiding him on sheer will power until the body gave in.

[@cavvaldiv5536]

Yeah Jotaro could have just been wrong. I mean who tf is this guy anyway 🤣 Also, if any stand could bring back the dead it would be Gold Experience with its literal life ability.

[@furyleferret2288]

This video is just a big: *"Read the Manga"*

[@shinzombie]

Reading the manga is the only right answer

[@milestone1719]

@@shinzombie i can't. Do you have a website or somewhere i can read?

[@loichu3500]

@@milestone1719 manganelo

[@SLZABBJNGO]

I really wanted to commend you for completely changing my view on Araki as a writer when I watched this series years ago

[@karatesan2120]

It seems to me that so many "Araki forgot" moments are caused by everybody thinking everything is foreshadowing or never accepting how things end, EVERYTHING needs to be brought back and EVERYTHING is something fo the future. For example, Josuke's savior, which people thought it had to be future Josuke, which didn't make sense in comparison to just being a nice man, or Gold Experience's making senses go wild ability, which just never has a chance to appear again because Giorno never delivers an individual punch in his fights, since Cioccolata or Diavolo got beatdowns. Even "No One can Deflect the Emerald Slpash™" is a misconception, funny jokes, but Star Platinum and The World were the only to actually deflect it rather than dodge it. A lot these misconceptions are literally explained either in the manga or the anime but "no, that has to be extremely important, if not, the author misused the potential". Thank you for this Btw: I legit couldn't deal with Anne any longer, so I'm glad 'araki forgot' about her.

[@IncredibleMD]

Speaking of Anne, Araki totally forgot to name her.

[@wolcamophone4783]

It’s so cool to see how goofy his art was in just his first Part, like there was real passion behind it. Maybe you could make it big too!

[@mythousandfaces]

I always assumed healing through Hamon is how Messina survived his encounter with the Pillar Men.

[@wordsoflove8787]

Love how Shuck called you out calling your videos "passive aggressive" when in reality all you're doing is cleaning up the mess he made thanks to his fans taking his memes literally. Your vid's are great in giving Araki the credit he deserves.

[@MrLCGO]

Even in that video he keeps giving misinformation lmao

[@uhoh6706]

Even then he still said that Caesars mistranslation of “Hamon doesn’t work through rock” is an Araki forgot moment lol

[@MrLCGO]

@@uhoh6706 Dude, he said changing styles mid part 4 is an Araki forgot... How? Do he seriously believe Araki one day literally just forgot how to draw the old way and just changed styles or what?

[@st8vie282]

Regardless he is generally passive aggressive I like his videos and agree with him but he sounds like a twat

[@TheLeagueofLegendsTv]

It's the first Video I watched of this guy right here and I can tell you this is slight passive aggressiveness, assertiveness

[@serlins9040]

Araki forgot that grapes are incredibly dangerous to dogs and Jonathan gave Danny a grape

[@serlins9040]

Also Araki forgot that both of the mentors died (I don’t remember their names )

[@fioree2532]

Lmao

[@marcellXcatalyst]

I always took it as Kars spend so long in space (even for a tens of thousands of years old being) that he went crazy when he realized he would never return.

[@BlackSalamander439]

Why do people care about plot holes in Part 1&2 when there’s Speedwagon?

[@rishit_gandash]

Beauty lies in the eyes of the watcher

[@doubt2022]

the definition of word forgot fans: forgot - did not meet our expectations actual definition: forgot - failed to remember

[@AjixGameOver]

In summary, people are dumb. "ArAkI fOrGoT aBoUt SmOkEy" it's literally explained in the epilogue of part 2 that he becomes the mayor of his home town in Georgia

[@sethtruesdale1848]

for the clackers thing, um wasn't the only reason he got them in the first place to one up ceaser? After seeing ceaser weaponize soap, Joseph wanted to show him up by weaponizing something even more ridiculous, like a childrens toy? So of course he was never going to really rely on them in the first place, he just grabbed them without thinking but it ended up working somehow

[@moonsys]

God this is such a good series concept. Debunking false, yet widespread information is so good for a series like JoJo, where people seem to conflate memes and other random crap with the actual series and think they know what they're talking about when all they're doing is diluting the actual contents of the series with bs.

[@makchot3263]

Araki does hv a lot instances of bad writing though. A lot of the debunking done in this video is basically giving araki and the show the benefit of a doubt instead of concrete evidence

[@notmenotme281]

i know it wont happen and it was confirmed not to happen by araki himself but imagine how cool it would be if Kars came back and got hit with a stand arrow

[@zareffarhaan6106]

That would make it one of the most powerful stands in this series. Maybe even stronger than GER.

[@JJLarge]

What would his stand do that he can't already do?

[@TheAnimationStationTAS]

Now I'm just stuck thinking about Joseph taking the ceaser puddle and infusing it with hamon to bring him back to life.

[@formerctgovernordannelmall1452]

I have a question about Kars; I’m not bringing up potential plot holes or anything, but we all know Araki loves his poetic scenarios. I was wondering if anybody else thought that Kars’ last ditch effort to use air jets to bring himself back to earth, only to have them freeze, was Karma getting back at Kars for betraying Wammu’s pride as a warrior. If Wammu had seen the way Kars fought Lisa Lisa, he surely wouldn’t have approved (even if he wouldn’t have fought Kars on the matter). So after betraying his own companion’s spirit, he doesn’t get to use his abilities to save his ass. Ironically, if Kars WAS gonna rip off one of his friend’s abilities to save himself, it would have been much smarter to try to use Ecidici’s Boiling Blood and THEN use Wammu’s air jets

[@TheAnimationStationTAS]

Blood Jets

[@perfectlyfine1675]

The only things Araki genuinely forgets are some abilities of a Stand, but then again, some abilities are only useful in rare situations, so of course they didn't get used constantly.

[@IncredibleMD]

Araki totally forgot the powers of some stands by the time he gave them stats in the artbook. Emperor, the stand whose entire gimmick is being able to control bullets midflight to hit whatever Hol Horse wants, has Precision E for god's sake.

[@joshuazeppeli5199]

@@IncredibleMD I always thought the more bullets Hol Horse fired, the worse his bullet control became, because he can hit everything and anything with only one bullet, but when he spams bullets down the pipe, he couldn't stop from shooting himself.

[@chrisladd1523]

People who say araki forgot poco clearly haven’t read part 7

[@myhoatran4696]

“‘Kars will be in space forever!” Nasa: oh ho, we’ll see about that one

[@ethanhayes9362]

This series is going to help me a lot later on, I just started watching Jojo (don't worry about spoiling the plot I already pieced a lot of it together because of the internet, thanks internet) and I know I'm going to have questions later, but don't worry I was never going to blame the author anyway. So thanks for the playlist, keep up the good work.

[@Pikachu825]

The only thing that really bothers me is how they never talked about Wamuu instinctively attacking things that step into his shadow after the first time he does it. I guess it was used as a plot device to show how Kars is his master, but I really thought Joseph was gonna use that against him later, but he never did. Or I'm just dumb and missed it if he did

[@elsquisheeone]

my headcanon for what happened to Santana is that he was the guinea pig for Stroheim's cybernetic enhancements Stroheim loudly boasts that his fingers have a grip strength that is stronger than Santana's and claims that he knows exactly how much damage is needed to kill Kars, information that he got by literally ripping Santana into bits until he could no longer regenerate