Debunking RetroTink's VHS Capture Propaganda

[@Iinkuya]

this is what news channels should be airing

[@Osoweeb]

YESSSSS, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT DOING THIS. Thank you for covering the issue with the retrotink propaganda.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

You use SRESTORE on every tape? I've been using fpsdivisor=2 or frate=(frame here) depending on what the video looks like. A lot of my tapes have digital elements & ghost frames layered on top of the anime so I usually just go for 29.97 & say (screw it, that looks like the raw mkv did) unless it's very clearly a movie. Having the opening or the credits of an anime break because they shift from 23.976 to 30 just doesn't seem like a good trade off so I switch between the two depending on what it looks like (unless it's very clearly a digital anime, but that's been rare in my experience)Edit 2: Damn, maybe I really should be using deflicker, that might have been bottlenecking me.

[@The_Smuggler_]

Not every tape, but it is handy in certain cases. for the specific Ys LD there is a method using Vapoursynth someone showed me which can deal with really bad ghosting and blending although I'm not sweaty enough at the moment to understand how it works, however, You can specify frame ranges to specific filters, so if you have digital elements at 30fps during frame 100-200, you can basically turn anime IVTC off and process that scene as native 30 to avoid stutters. AVS also supports exporting variable frame rate MKV's and TDecimate also has a VFR mode, which is handy for DVDs. This was the script i used to process the DVD release of Kimagure Orange Road: Summers Beginning, which you might find handy for conventional tape rips aswell if they follow a standard IVTC pattern. LoadPlugin("dgmpgdec2007\x64\DGDecode.dll") DGDecode_D2VSource("[DVD][070523] Shin Kimagure Orange Road ~Soshite, Ano Natsu no Hajimari~\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1test.d2v") #################################################### Tfm( mode=2,pp=6,micmatching=3, slow=2, cthresh=8, d2v="[DVD][070523] Shin Kimagure Orange Road ~Soshite, Ano Natsu no Hajimari~\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1test.d2v", mchroma=true, mmsco=false) TDecimate(mode=0) ################################################## converttorgb24(interlaced=true).blur(0,1).sharpen(0,1).ConvertToYV24() DotKill_DotKillS(iterations=1) ############################################# a=nnedi3(field=-1, nsize=6, nns=4, qual=2, threads=10) yadifmod2(mode=0, edeint=a) ############################################# Clip=last o =last DH = o.dehalo_alpha(rx=2.5,ry=2.5,darkstr=1.0) bb = DH.removegrain(11) xD = mt_makediff(bb,bb.repair(bb.repair(bb.medianblur(2,-333,-333),1),1)) \ .mt_lut("x 128 - 2.49 * 128 +") xDD = mt_lutxy(xD,mt_makediff(o,DH),"x 128 - y 128 - * 0 < 128 x 128 - abs y 128 - abs < x y ? ?") DH.mt_adddiff(xDD,U=2,V=2) ############################################## crop(4,4,-4,-4) Prefetch(threads=10, frames=10) (FOR VHS YOU CAN PUT THE CROP BEFORE THE DEINTERLACE)

[@Josephll64]

It feels like one of the greater disservices in the video was creating the perception that you need to spend four figures to even get started otherwise. It has the chance of turning away people from even giving it a go otherwise. Clearly, the 4k is top of class when it comes to gaming, but in their attempts to expand their viable market, it has the possibility of doing damage to archival efforts.

[@The_Smuggler_]

My thoughts exactly! and I feel like alot of people are swooned by the idea that if only they had the money to buy the magic box they would have all of their problems solved. But Trying to digitize media is fundamentally a problem created by old hardware limitations so investing heavily in more hardware to solve the hardware problem doesn't make sense to me.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

@@The_Smuggler_ Were any of the TBCs you mentioned full frame? I have a TBC-1000 from when they were basically worthless, but those editing decks look really cool. There's like 20 star wipes on some of those things.

[@The_Smuggler_]

Very few TBCs outside of TV station equipment are full frame unfortunately, however a good Field TBC will do quite well. You can improve the performance of a field line TBC inside a video mixer by Buying a VCR or VTR that supports Black Burst Output, Sony SVO series VCRs, amoung others, will output timing information through a B.B. port which most well equipped mixers can interpret and adjust their internal TBC to match the output. This is essentially a genlock signal which acts in tandem with the TBC to further stabilize and Sync the video. it basically lets the VCR talk to the mixer n vice versa. If you use the B.B. signal to record a blank tape it is also possible to perform preprogrammed edits and transitions during A-B editing, since the Mixer knows what the VCR is doing.

[@ıŋơų]

why nobody talk about the HDPVR Rocket ? i use it for analog video capture and it's work great the only fault is that since I am European, I have to go through a device that converts the composite signal into component since the rocket only accepts NTSC composite, in my case I go through a Pioneer DVR-545HX for the conversion