Debunking SK's Spectacular Spider-Man Video

Debunking SK's Spectacular Spider-Man Video
Eric Carter: www.youtube.com/ @EricCarter12
The Spectacular Spider-Man - An Overhyped Disaster [Season One]
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[@SuperSireBoyYT]

This is like everything wrong with online film critique. “Fictional characters must be perfect 24/7 and always make perfectly calm and rational decisions all the time”

[@Ninja07Keaton]

They also complain about the lack of realism, then condemn characters for not being logical 24/7. The irony is that no human alive is even remotely capable of being logical at all times. So the one area of realism that exists in storytelling is the thing they hate the most. This is why I struggle to take followers of rationalism seriously. Their logic is too rooted in survival instincts to be considered unbiased.

[@TillmanStudios]

Which is the oppisote of Spider-Man who is a human being that makes mistakes.

[@Robinson513]

Who fuck is two face

[@crazybl1tz88]

sk is such a victim of this

[@oliveiradomingos5165]

Thats what separates good writing with bad ones bud. And spectacular spiderman writhing is not as great as i remember.

[@C0LIN.]

As someone who’s gone through this I salute u for the mental will power needed to get through an S.K video and edit

[@ImmortalDreamEntertainment]

SK wants to be the next Madvocate, but doesn’t have nearly his same amount of critical thinking. I salute you guys for doing this stuff.

[@BullyHemsworth]

@@ImmortalDreamEntertainment lol thats actually very true

[@nemesis4551]

His strategy is always to attack someone personally instead of staying on topic

[@Durjprime]

@@ImmortalDreamEntertainment madvocate was in his stream supporting what he said BOY.

[@Durjprime]

-guy who gets information to be transphobic from a religoin known to peddle homophobia and transphobia

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

If he’s so against Spider-Man making mistakes. God forbid he finds out what happened to Uncle Ben

[@kyberion]

Spider-Man making mistakes is what makes Spider-Man so inspiring. A human dude with powers that makes mistakes but never gives up

[@ill_hex8103]

It'd literally just be echoing all the adaptations where Peter (either verbally or internally) puts words to his feelings about taking responsibility for Uncle Ben's death. *cough cough* 2017 *cough cough*

[@offtheshelfET]

I can just imagine how he’d word it “Peter, what the fuck are you doing? The guy is getting away and you have super strength! I get that he just got snubbed out of pay, but you do realize that if that guy gets away with the money then you’re definitely not getting paid. Also, I’m sure your employer would’ve been more than happy to pay you more money for stopping the criminal who robbed him. And that’s not even to mention that he is risking civilian casualties by letting an armed criminal get away. Peter Parker has been utterly character assassinated”

[@jamestolbert1856]

That’s what makes him a great hero, with every mistake, he gets back up and takes responsibility

[@struggler6864]

Most of SK's arguments can be disproven with a single fact: Peter's been Spider-Man for three months and has dealt with low crime only. Not supervillains, nor organized crime. Just petty crooks and saving people. And most of the problems he deals with goes back it, because it's his first time dealing with them. How would a fifteen years old kid know he could ask to be anonymous when working with a newspaper for the _first time in his life._ It's one of the things that makes this Peter Parker so great to me: he's the most relatable take on the character thus far for any teen/young adult. He treats him like a veteran Spider-Man who should have all the answers and experience, that shouldn't under any circumstance fuck up, when he naturally wouldn't have such. Not to mention that it's still a Saturday morning cartoon. Yet, he seems to be asking it to be like Batman V Superman levels of "depth" and "introspection" (more accurately pretentiousness).

[@struggler6864]

Hell, the showrunners referred to the premise of the show as "The education of Peter Parker" and for a very good reason. The entire point of the series is Peter growing up to become a better hero and person as a whole. Too bad we never saw that fully-realized Spider-Man.

[@ILikeSoda229]

Exactly. S.K has so many criticisms with Spectacular Spider-Man saying things like “Why didn’t Peter do this a certain way” or “Why didn’t Peter just do this instead so he wouldn’t have to worry about this”. He seemingly forgets that’d not only is this a first year Spider-Man, but he’s also a human being that makes mistakes, and for him to achieve something successfully in a perfect way every time, would just be bad writing.

[@Robinson513]

What the fuck is Spectacular Spider-man Who fuck is harry

[@MetalHopper]

Idk man, there are some fuck ups that Peter did that I don't think can be excused by that.

[@humblev7604]

BvS isn’t remotely close to having “depth”

[@TheHolyTreeMan.]

All his complaints about the villains are literally “why did this crazy person in a high stress situation not do the same thing that I would?”

[@JohnDanielRay1]

No the complaints about the villains are "why is this person doing something counterproductive to their goals" you disingenuous piece of garbage.

[@justasentientmclarenp1879]

There's also, "I can't believe a some random 15 year old who got superpowers 3 months ago by random chance isn't a seasoned veteran superhero who can execute every action perfectly"

[@lm_slayer1]

Aaaaaaand this logic applies to basically most, if not all of his criticisms, for the ps4 game 💀

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@lm_slayer1 Not his logic, but yes it does apply to the ps4 game. He's got a whole video about that to if you're interested.

[@surrcram]

I'd love to see this guy write a Spider-man story. It'd be the most safe, boring piece of storytelling ever told

[@Echoline77]

I don't understand why people say that someone making a bad choice is poor writing

[@tk78junior64]

because they don't understand writing they just want perfect/boring stories

[@TillmanStudios]

@@tk78junior64 Exactly.

[@pheas]

@@tk78junior64no, they want actions within character.

[@lmao2302]

@@pheas Actions within character and making mistakes can both be the same thing.

[@pheas]

@@lmao2302 what☠️☠️

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

I'm tired of channels calling everything a 'disaster' when they criticize something. Like, this series got a second season (far from a given in the world of TV), was critically successful and created a cult fanbase. We're still talking about it, over a decade and a half later. It wasn't a massive hit or anything, and it did get cancelled, but none of that strikes me as particularly disastrous. People just cheapen the word by overusing it. Soon enough disaster will just mean 'bad', and then it'll mean nothing at all. Anyway, ignore the rant. I really liked the video.

[@MahNamJeff]

hell, the reason it DID get cancelled was completely out of the control of the shows reception as spider man was becoming a rights nightmare with the show rights going to disney during its run and killing the show

[@timskully3496]

the word “bad” has already lost meaning when people are comparing some fairly decent, albeit not perfect cgi to ps2 graphics

[@MahNamJeff]

@@timskully3496 pokemon?

[@jamesoblivion]

It was a pretty big hit at the time. Only cancelled because they rights changed hands.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Oh boo fucking hoo, a video is out to prove something is bad because it is? Cry me a river.

[@zackolmigaming6198]

You know, if I had a nickel for every time SK made a bad video about the Spiderman franchise, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[@VanityFRV]

I think hes made more than just 2

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Unfunny

[@timskully3496]

bro you have like a whole dollar by now lol

[@nobodyspecial4676]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259bro look at ur name you dont get to say whats not funny

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@nobodyspecial4676 leafy is here is a funny and dumb name. It's only unfunny because the same joke has been repeated 10,000 times. That said, my name doesn't explicitly say I find leafy is here funny, it says I find it dumb. You're butthurt and can't think of a decent comeback

[@Asa45400]

A lot of Sk’s basically boil down to “do this do this do this do this do this do this” it’s like listening to an actual child

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Sure if you simplify his criticisms in bad faith like that it'll sure help get people on your side.

[@Asa45400]

@@JohnDanielRay1 how am I simplifying his criticisms when he does this three times while talking about three episodes?

[@TheLowBlow]

is it because he's giving more logical decisions about what a character should do instead of what actually happened? Is that what registers as sounding like a child now?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Because he doesn't understand the characters or the target audience that certain media is made for?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow No, I'm saying that there is a certain demographic this show is aimed at, so it can't get away with things that more grown up shows could. For example, you can't show a character bleeding or stabbed and stuff like that without bumping up the age rating. C'mon man, use that stupid brain of yours instead of blindly following S.K.

[@azaanimations319]

As for Peter always answering May on the phone, he probably doesn’t want May to worry too much and have a heart attack or something and die. She’s an old lady.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

It's in character for Peter to always put Aunt May first. In the Stan Lee/Ditko run, he even ducks out of a fight with Green Goblin because he got news that Aunt May had been taken to the hospital.

[@theincrediblespiderdude5454]

And he talks about character assassination

[@JayRedGear]

​@@theincrediblespiderdude5454With how little SK understands Spider-Man, he has no right saying it's character assassination.

[@MetalHopper]

That's actually a really good point.

[@jefferyandbob3137]

hell she actually had a heart attack in the show so yeah

[@tananatana4011]

One thing you didn't mention about Curt becoming Lizard is what I think both of you have actually missed. In the Electro episode, it's explicitly highlighted how Electro shoots Curt's container which has the lizard dna and in the Lizard episode, when he injects it, it's shown to sparkle electricity. So perhaps Curt DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE and he was genuinely onto something with his research, but due to Electro's powers messing up the formula, he transformed into a giant monster and due to that trauma, Curt never wanted to experiment with that ever again. I always found that to be one of the most subtly brilliant parts about that episode so just wanted to mention it.

[@baller1352]

Maybe idk

[@saltystick_99]

*That's* attention to detail and a good sense of continuity.

[@navonmyhand7999]

I didn't know people missed this or possibly didn't also consider it tbh

[@theleonpasta7336]

damn, i never noticed that, thats a cool idea but honestly i think the lizard stuff in the ep works either way, and maybe a little better if its entirely Conners´ fault, like either because he simply didnt want to wait to test the formula more, or wanted to see the results of his efforts faster so he could show his investors that he´s made a breakthrough to secure their continued funding, cuz i remember that being a somewhat important part of his motivation, sort of like Otto in the ps4 game

[@Albino_Basilisk]

Well we don’t know that, but I guess it’s a possibility. It could’ve also just been that nothing would’ve happened if electro never electrified it

[@SM1-1048]

Next thing you know he’s gonna criticize the 90’s or 60’s Spider-Man for not being realistic enough

[@ILikeSoda229]

If I remember correctly, the 1994 Spider-Man was actually one of the versions he liked, really don’t know what’s this guys standards.

[@captainsprinkles6557]

"He's in the 1960s and isn't an overly racist jerk?" **timer appears** "Say a slur, say a slur, say a slur, say a slur, say a slu-"

[@SM1-1048]

@@ILikeSoda229 he streamed the other day and I asked if the spectacular spm tv series is the best spm series and he said yes it is so idk his standards either.

[@dante_0962]

@@SM1-1048 ??? That doesn’t make any senes

[@aniverse_574]

@@captainsprinkles6557 😂😂

[@wander7812]

SK feels like a type of person I've met a lot before. That person that when sees something slightly wrong done by someone, gets overly mad about it, calling it out for it being stupid or dumb, often to something that isn't even wrongful or that bad in the first place, while also not being a very intelligent person themselves. Then oftens suggest "better solutions" for what they're overly critizing, which turn out to always just be way worse than what they're trying to "fix", and just end up overly complicating or fumbling what didn't even needed fixing in the first place.

[@RayTheomo]

Aka the WORST type of person

[@BodhiTOuellette]

He sounds just like CinemaSins, a big red flag.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

What he's criticizing aren't slightly wrong decisions. Explain how his suggestions are worse, because Lizard trying to stab Spider-Man isn't overly complicating. Across The Spiderverse literally does this in Gwen's flashback sequence when Lizard tries to bite her but she blocks it.

[@wander7812]

@@JohnDanielRay1 Such a suspicious comment I had to click your profile and see your other comments in this video. Your username suits! I see what you're doing now. EDIT: THEY DELETED THEIR COMMENT LOL. For context, I was replying to somebidy cronically defending SK.

[@jerod.saibot]

Kinda sounds like a backseat gamer. Yk, these people who sit behind you, while you play a game and always tell you, what they think, you should have done.

[@tobyjack1238]

Of course SK made a video saying Spectacular was overrated, between this show and the PS4 game, he seems to hate perfect adaptations of Spider-man. Edit: I accidentally started a gang war because of one word.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Yeah, I hated his critiques brcause he seems to forget who the target audience is or he forgets to suspend his disbelief.

[@aniverse_574]

True

[@giormelgar8113]

Insomniac isn’t perfect and neither is spectacular. Didn’t peter literally cheat on liz on the last episode?

[@TheInfamousLegend27]

now now, SK might be a bit mouthy but PS4 spiderman isn't perfect lmao

[@BrandontheAwesome]

​@@giormelgar8113So what if they aren't perfect? Just because something has flaws doesn't mean it isn't good. Take the first six (and ONLY six) Star Wars movies. Do they have flaws? Sure! But they are still good movies (despite what some fans say...)

[@Crenzio]

I always just assumed that Vulture decided not to conceal his face when he abducted Norman. Since his goal is to make Norman give him credit for things. His identity would be pretty obvious in retrospect if Norman did what he wanted, so what's the point in disguising himself? Always thought the idea was that he's so upset about having his ideas stolen that he's willing to get thrown in prison to get the credit he deserves.

[@dante_0962]

Plus in the comics he doesn’t wear a mask and he could be seen as a underdog beating the greedy capitalist businessman.

[@dante_0962]

Also he can have Norman forgive him of he’s crime

[@ffreed]

Yeah, concealing his identity would defeat his own purpose and just lead to criticism of his methods in a different direction. “I am the Vulture, and I have come for you, Osborn! You must confess to stealing Adrian Toomes’ Tech-Flight invention!” “Says the winged man whose body hums when he flies. If you’re not Toomes, are you sure you don’t have some apologizing to do yourself?” “Uh…yes, well… SILENCE!”

[@causticsneeze3425]

Yeah, from the vultures point of view his life is already over

[@lrstudios-do9vo]

​@@causticsneeze3425 exactly, that's valid criticism

[@psi_feelingokay9784]

"I hate that Peter randomly decides to call Aunt May" Dude has less attention span than a fucking toddler. Literally says in the show she set a 10PM Curfew for Peter and he has to call if he runs late.

[@psi_feelingokay9784]

@@JohnDanielRay1 Username checks out. Peter wouldn't want to do that, because he actually cares for Aunt May. And, again, he's 16, and early SpiderMan. He can fuck up.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

lmao, dude watches tiktok for half a day then tryna ""criticize"" a long form content

[@Kira_Official_]

In every video I've seen in regards to S.K., he's so hyper fixated on realism and things happening in a realistic way… in a franchise that's about a superhero, who's powers are that of being a spider, while he fights villain's that go by Doctor Octopus, Sandman, Green Goblin, Rhino, Electro, The Vulture, and as of recently thanks to Spider-Verse, The Spot. Not only does he fight those guys all of the time, but he does so in a bright red and blue costume, and because of his powers, he calls himself Spider-Man. Not only does he expect things to be realistic, which it already isn't because a story about a kid who calls himself Spider-Man, but then he expects these characters to always act 100% rational and logical. Forgetting that human's in real life don't always think logically or rationally. That's why Vulture is great in this show, because we're watching an old man who's gone insane and is using his invention to cause harm. Realistically, no insane person is gonna think rationally or logically. So seeing how far he's willing to go for his vengeance is entertaining because we know that eventually, Spider-Man is gonna come and save the day.

[@FazeRustyNuts]

There is something called "in universe logic" kid, stop acting like fiction doesn't have rules or limitations, if fiction breaks rules that they clearly establish then that's literally valid criticism 💀

[@aniverse_574]

@@FazeRustyNuts why does he love Batman then Why don't any thug shoot at his chin

[@struggler6864]

@@FazeRustyNuts Yeah, but there's clearly nothing that breaks the in-universe logic from Spectacular.

[@struggler6864]

It's kind of expected since he's a Snyder cultist. So, of course, he's obsessed with realism.

[@Koichi-Kun]

@@FazeRustyNutswhat rules does spectacular break then?

[@katz7609]

The problem with SK began back when he used to post his plot holes and rants back on Instagram until he deleted them. SK was aggressive towards many (not all) people he debated against, such as nitpicking their comments with spelling errors or just flat out insulted them. It's not to say he hasn't made good points, but it's difficult to get passed his insolent behavior, especially when he's always on ten.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Well, this reply is incredibly disingenuous but I'm just gonna leave it at that.

[@katz7609]

@@JohnDanielRay1 How so? While I can admit there were times SK was diplomatic and listened to people with opposing views, it still doesn't take away that many of his debates consisted of him being aggressive. His videos were better than his Instagram posts by miles, as he was able to get his points across thoroughly and didn't introduce people to his aggressive debate style, which can turn people away from his opinions which tends to be objective. I'm not including his live streams SK had with people as I haven't watched many of them, and when I did, he appeared calmer and cheerful.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

@@katz7609 Do you have any references? Cuz I'd like to see them. SK wouldn't insult anyone unless they did something wrong, now come up with a real argument or shut up.

[@katz7609]

@@JohnDanielRay1 No, I do not. SK's previous posts of plot holes were deleted, all I can state is that he questioned movies such as Endgame, Thor being unworthy of mjolnir, all the Spider-Man movies, defended Kirsten dunst's MJ saying her actions were not plotholes. I do not blame you for questioning my comment, as there is no evidence since they were deleted. I frequently commented on his own posts and debated against and with him on many occasions, so I've seen how the guy can get critical of others both needlessly and rightfully. You can either take my word or call me a liar. I know I'm telling the truth but an outsider would question the validity of my comment, rightfully so.

[@geovone5399]

SK is the type of person who believes cinema sins videos are legit movie reviews

[@RayTheomo]

That's just satire. Except when it's not. Then it's real criticism. Whats the difference. Idk DING

[@theomnigamer9177]

@RayTheomo Except the entire Emperor’s New Groove CinemaSins video when it’s nothing but wrong. Because everyone knows that movie is a work of art, every single second.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

SK hates Cinema Sins

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@theomnigamer9177 True that! My favorite of all Disney films!

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

I'm pretty sure he finds them cringe. uncharitable much?

[@SWTobito0702]

The point about Vulture and the helicopter is honestly kinda stupid. Helicopters can be safely landed in case of a tail rotor malfunction. That is pretty common knowledge in regards to helicopters. And someone like Spidey would've absolutely known that, which is why he wasn't too concerned with it. And clearly Spidey did have a plan what to do once Vulture's flight tech failed. It's why Spidey sat on Toomes with his legs crossed around Vulture's stomach.

[@ILikeSoda229]

Yeah I don’t know why he made such a big deal with that. Montana is obviously a very skilled pilot since he kept up with Spider-Man the entire time, he obviously knows what to do if something like this would happen. Besides even if he wasn’t a good pilot, a tail rotor of a heli not functioning isn’t the end of the world. You can still land your helicopter successfully without it working, albeit just harder since it’ll be harder to turn it around. This isn’t GTA.

[@JayRedGear]

Honestly, it just seemed like he wanted something to bitch about and deliberately manipulated the scene, trying to make it look worse than it really is and is cutting context.

[@crazybl1tz88]

cuz sk is a dumbass who thinks the two most liked spiderman adaptations are killers

[@jefferyandbob3137]

@@JayRedGear I mean isn't that the entire video?

[@dante_0962]

I don’t think Spider-Man would know that but whatever not important and at least we got a answer to what happened to the helicopter.

[@ldub5562]

Wow, SK is a repeat offender, It really feels like SK is just looking for Spider-Man stuff to hate.

[@Iianator]

He's like madvocate but without the logic and reason

[@3Guys1Video]

Yeah

[@mayonnaise3959]

@@Iianatorand madvocate feels like a passionate fan who wants to see the properties he critiques improve. SK just hates to hate

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Lol

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

gotta get that youtube cash i guess

[@saltystick_99]

My brother in Ra 100% lost me when he "critiqued" Lizard not stabbing Spider-Man and saying that Spider-Man has plot armor for surviving. Sorry I can't finish this video, I already had to tap out when he was saying Episode 1 was a disaster for relatively small junk, but you did good debunking him, mate.

[@crazybl1tz88]

sk finds issues with small things that dont really even mess up the plot which arent even valid points and then is like "3/10 no spiderman being the perfect human being without anything going wrong in his thought process which can be interperated a bad way"

[@saltystick_99]

@@crazybl1tz88 "Critics" like him are the reason we have people like the people writing the new Peter Pan movie and saying "Where does the glow on Tinkerbell come from" and its just things you shouldn't think about too much on, not because its a turn your brain off situation, but because genuinely nobody cares about these things that you're overblowing into being some sort of crime against your favorite deity. CinemaSins has ruined a generation of critics by thinking small innocuous things matter in a movie despite said errors lasting like a full second at most.

[@randomnerd3402]

​@@saltystick_99For me, as long as an error doesn't make the plot fall apart, it's really not worth caring about

[@Xeno_Solarus]

"brother in Ra" wtf lol

[@saltystick_99]

@@randomnerd3402 More or less what I was getting at, yeah. If its irrelevant to the overall plot, then it genuinely shouldn't matter.

[@ZReaders]

With his Spectacular and PS4 videos, I think SK's never actually read a Spider-Man comic, just seen all the various differing films and thus thinks he knows everything he needs to.

[@Lulu-ew7oh]

That good bit of spidey fans In general

[@tosutaa]

SK when a teenager makes a stupid decision: 🤯🤯😡😡

[@stanfordjones2619]

Peter setting up his camera isnt even character assassination. He does it all the damn time in the original comics lol. He might be a superhero, but he is also a young man with many responsibilities and obligations to friends, family, etc. Keeping all of these things in mind while also trying (and often struggling) to find a way to balance them alongside his crime-fighting life is what makes Spider-man such a relatable and beloved character.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

"The comics made this mistake to so it's okay!" Shut the fuck up about the comics, they're a different continuity.

[@bassmantjox1299]

@@JohnDanielRay1but, it’s BASED on the comics, so it’s not out of character

[@alesthesmalllegend5639]

sk was the kind of guy in school to remind the teacher they had homework

[@cwizard]

I think he skipped class.

[@TheLowBlow]

I don't see how

[@Albino_Basilisk]

No, more like the type of guy that thought he was smarter than the teacher if the teacher made a tiny error somewhere and he corrected them

[@jameskingman1227]

Does SK know what character assassination actually is? Peters actions in the first episode would have only been character assassination if either he failed, or it was portrayed he was being reckless. The writers control the outcome. He wasn’t going to kill anyone. He didn’t threaten to kill anyone. He had total control of the situation. Vulture was in no danger of dying. And I’m sure if the writers wanted to make a set piece for Peter to catch a helicopter they could. He does later in the series so he’s more than capable. What sheer nonsense.

[@MetalHopper]

His point still stands though, if the helicopter didn't land perfectly on the top of a bulding he would have to choose between letting Vulture fall to his death or letting the helicopter crash on a *highly populated city*

[@jameskingman1227]

@@MetalHopper nah, you think Peter couldn’t easily web Vulture to a wall before going to catch the helicopter. He effortlessly saved Vulture in that moment, and we’ve seen him multitask in the series plenty of times. There is a possibility things could go wrong, but that wasn’t the intention of the scene and it isn’t what happened. Montana safely landed the helicopter without incident. Peters biggest goof in that whole moment was letting the Enforcers get away, but frankly that is such a Spider-Man thing to happen. He can’t solve everything.

[@TillmanStudios]

@@MetalHopper They also bring back the helicoptor thing in the last episode of the series to show that Peter has learned since that fight because he saves the helipcoptor. But you decided not to notice that because it doesn't fit your defense of SK.

[@JohnDanielRay1]

It doesn't matter if he failed or was being portrayed as reckless because he still risked potentially a shit ton of lives, and it doesn't matter what the writers intended because the implications are still there. He was by letting the helicopter crash, doesn't matter if he watched where it was going or not because he would still be delaying himself. He wasn't in control of that situation. You're right, they were capable but chose not to for some reason. What a sheerly nonsensical defense.

[@himynameiskobey.7994]

Y'know I actually think SK might only be making these for clout. Think about it, they're two hour long rants about things that will get a lot of attention, it's a perfect plan ro get known.

[@Chrisgotthisonlock]

I know right

[@Pihsrosnec]

especially since they seem to be very similar in style to another(imo much better) critique of a superhero tv show that focused heavily on scrutinising the action scenes

[@struggler6864]

Also the videos dropped the same day each season dropped on Disney+.

[@nicholaspeters9919]

Yeah, I saw someone else do something similar within the realm of PlayStation games (Spider-Man 2018 included) whilst proclaiming themselves “the God of KZbin”. These guys need to find more constructive hobbies.

[@TheLowBlow]

​@@Pihsrosnec yeh apparently he's making these for clout but when he goes in depth he's using things that litterally happened in the show 😂 I guess by that logic these movie and show producers just want clout and money huh?

[@t.i.5528]

Peter Parker: Gets a job that could've gone to someone else. SK: THIS IS BLATANT CHARACTER ASSASSINATION.

[@TheLowBlow]

​@illuminoubshellSpider-Man: *breaks his no kill rule or in this case let's a helicopter fall to it's doom* Spider-Man fanboys: "suspend your disbelief" "it's fiction"

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Helicopters don't fall like a rock when the tail rotor gets taken down, you still can maintain control of the vechile enough to land it safely, which is what happens in the show. Pay some attention.

[@TillmanStudios]

@@TheLowBlow UHH, do you not know how helicopters work? if the tail rooter is taken out, you have manual control and can safely land the plane. That's literally how they work in real life. SK supporters when they see something that is realistic: That makes no sense! This isn't realistic! Everyone else: Actually, it is.

[@peronafanman]

Lots of SK debunks recently, I think Collin and Arachnid Youth started a trend.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

About time it happened!

[@TheLowBlow]

​@@BrandontheAwesome yeh too bad the "debunks" didn't hold up and SK destroyed them

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Too bad those "debunks" of the debunks are horrible and further prove S.K is a moron who knows nothing about Spider-Man.

[@TillmanStudios]

@@TheLowBlow Actually, both times SK 'debunked' those arguments, all he did was whine and complain about what they said to him, lmao. His 'debunks' of the debunks, just proved them right, because he never once had a good defense nor debunk of what they were saying.

[@Slash_Spider]

He keeps saying character assassination, I don't think it means what he thinks it does.

[@TillmanStudios]

Since he is the one assassinating the character and doesn't even realize it because he doesn't understand the character.

[@Slash_Spider]

@@TillmanStudios facts

[@BrandontheAwesome]

I bet they could character assassinate his favorite Spider-Man and he will defend it to the death.

[@Slash_Spider]

@BrandontheAwesome based on his videos that I've seen I can't even tell if he even likes Spider-Man.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@Slash_Spider Or he is such a fan of Miles Morales he tries to tear down Peter to build up Miles. Wouldn't put it past him.

[@Riley_Studios]

Actually a little correction on that Homecoming nitpick. Peter does suffer because of him abandoning Liz’s party and the decathlon. When Liz mentions that Peter is always disappearing and mentions these occasions on the drive to the prom. This allows the Vulture to figure out Peter’s identity. So Peter may originally just suffered a little bit of his social status at school at first. But in the long run it came back to bite him even harder. Peter going off to stop Vulture’s operations both times and abandoning Liz caused Vulture to find out his identity. Just wanted to point that out

[@TheLowBlow]

Yeh he still went to go stop the threat regardless about how he feels about it 🤦‍♀️ "spiderman is not a party trick" how does that go over your head?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Considering he was going to go ahead with it before noticing an explosion? Dude.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@BrandontheAwesome he was still questioning it and only did it bcz Ned kept asking him, helping a friend is what Spider-Man does

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 It's been awhile since I have seen the movie, so I'm a little hazy on some details.

[@MobDraws69]

This might be the start of the SK cinematic universe

[@tananatana4011]

Damn, SK is truly the king of bad Spider-Man analyzations

[@TheLowBlow]

"Because I don't like when someone critiques a show I like"

[@tananatana4011]

@@TheLowBlow "Because saying a bunch of nonsense which is instantly debunkable is obviously criticism"

[@TheLowBlow]

@@tananatana4011 good then you should be able to debunk why the Sandman or the Lizard didn't stab spiderman when they had the chance, why didn't they?

[@tananatana4011]

@@TheLowBlow You are aware of how vapid those critiques are, right? I guarantee, there's not a single superhero piece of media where the villain wasn't *this* close to murder the protagonist, the reason they don't is because then it wouldn't be interesting, would it? They don't survive the inevitable because they are main characters, they are protagonists because they survive the inevitable. It's a trash critique, there's not a single superhero thing ever that doesn't have that "well villain COULD'VE easily won here" moment, duh, that's to establish that the villain isn't to be fucked around with, but you aren't going to kill off your protagonist. I suppose I just value good storytelling, characters, development etc. over a show about superheroes being "realistic"

[@TheLowBlow]

@@tananatana4011 there has been lots of Super Hero media where the Hero comes out on top without any plot armor for your information

[@ILikeSoda229]

“You have a choice, between coming across as a complete dumbass, and lying to your entire audience.” S.K: I can do both!

[@TheLowBlow]

He never lied and he was able to go in depth better than you ever could, considering you think this show is good

[@ILikeSoda229]

@@TheLowBlow He lied plenty of times to further his point and no, he I bet he _couldn’t_ go in-depth as of to why this show is bad if his life depended on it. I guess it doesn’t matter anyway, no point in arguing with someone who can’t even use common sense to tell that a show like this is more than good.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@ILikeSoda229 Nice response! I swear, this guy has got a catridges short of a web shooter if ya know what I mean!

[@TheLowBlow]

@@ILikeSoda229 did he lie about Spider-Man almost letting a helicopter crash happen? 💀 I don't remember him lying about that, did he lie about The Villians not stabbing Spider-Man when they had the chance like the Lizard or Sandman situation? No, did he lie about Peter prioritizing a good camera angle instead of immobilizing Lizard? No, I can go on and on but there's no point in arguing with a Spider-Man fanboy who can't take criticism about the show he likes 😂

[@TheLowBlow]

@@BrandontheAwesome make sure you zip his pants back up when you're done 👍

[@The_D0C70R]

24:57 I know it happens for plot reasons, but the way they treat Peter in this episode kind of rubbed me the wrong way, even when I was younger. They know he's dirt poor, and the lab doesn't pay him. He's desperate, that doesn't make him an asshole. He's looking out for Aunt May. Of course it all would have been fine if he just went uncredited in the paper though, smh.

[@sawcrab2249]

I know this is anecdotal but every time the "Spider-Man sticks something or himself to a ceiling and everyone looses peripheral vision thing" comes up I think about the time I went to a house and there was a massive hole in the ceiling of the front living room and I didn't notice until I was about to leave. And I was there for a good hour or something. Not really and argument just a funny story.

[@nicholaspeters9919]

Most people are a bit surprised when they realize just how often we don’t look up in real life. It’s similar to the ratio of how often you jump in video games as opposed to life.

[@wingedangel6030]

I'm reminded of I think in one of the Spiderman 1 games forgot which one where the tutorial voice comments on how much the Average New Yorker doesn't look up

[@tusk636]

Everytime I hear SK try to "fix" a villains plan it makes me roll my eyes. His fixation on realism with no suspension of belief is boring and I feel like I'm losing brain cells the longer I hear him talk. I bet he's fun at parties.

[@TheLowBlow]

"it's fiction" or "suspend your disbelief" for the sake of enjoyment doesn't counter criticism, I lost brain cells just from reading your comment

[@TillmanStudios]

@@TheLowBlow Kid, there are things you have to accept can't hapen in real life in the Marvel and DC universe. God forbid, you actaully watch anything good known to man.

[@TheLowBlow]

@@TillmanStudios there is some called "in universe logic" since you Spider-Man fanboys have no idea what that means I suggest you go look it up then come back and try to make this cop out argument again.

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Actually, how about you follow your own advice? Because you seem to lack any knowledge on how superhero shows work.

[@jameskingman1227]

In defence of the shoe thing, Peter takes his shoes off to cling to walls, I assume his costume Boots are closer to socks than actual shoes. The only criticism really is he could have hid them, but would he be thinking about that then and there?

[@crazybl1tz88]

the shoe thing was honestly just the fact that peter would easily be able to remember later on in the day where it was once he remembered the shoes

[@krysys9703]

“Cut it, cut it, cut it, cut it” “Stab him, stab him, stab him, stab him” Holy fucking shit can’t we just have a compelling fight sequence? Okay so he cuts the web, then what, Peter will just throw another and we’re back to square one with your ass going “cut it cut it” 🤓 Lizard stabs Peter, what do you want him to die?? Did you forget this was made for kids?? Okay he stabs him, then what? What’s the next course of action? Stabbing him more? No he has to let him go so Peter can win and cure the Lizard. Because the alternative is him dying and Connor’s not being cured which is NOT what you want to happen Holy shit never let this guy in a writing room I swear to god

[@crazybl1tz88]

sk when he realizes a kids show cant have stabbing 🤯

[@jefferyandbob3137]

god and the way he says it is so obnoxious too

[@krysys9703]

@@jefferyandbob3137 I would not be able to watch anything with this guy

[@JohnDanielRay1]

They can still make it compelling by have characters actions align with their motivations and means you dense fuck. No he wants Lizard to actually try to kill him. Did you forget that the 2017 Spider-Man show is made for kids?? Yes. No he doesn't have to do that if they don't make him get the opportunity to easily kill Spider-Man, you're stupid. No that's not the alternative, I just suggested an alternative. Holy shit never let THIS GUY into a writing room if these are his defenses I swear to god.

[@azaanimations319]

Besides, I don’t even know if the Spectacular Lizard has long enough claws to do significant damage. Maybe TASM Lizard, but Spectacular Lizard’s claws are punier than most iterations. As for Vulture, having the equivalent of an upgraded metal hang-glider on your back doesn’t allow you to do a perfect 180 and slice something stuck behind you. I don’t think SK has ever tried reaching around to grab something on your back. It’s a pain.

[@hydrocityshark]

I think that what S.K. missed is that Peter’s life is EQUIVALENT to Spider-Man in terms of importance. A lot of the arguments come down to the action, which is usually small things that most people look over. What matters is the characterization. If I saw a super hero movie that was nonstop 2hrs of suspenseful, top notch action sequences, I would give it a Meh score, because I wouldn’t care enough about the people involved to really care. It’s the characters that give these scenes substance. If the substance is handled really well, then the small errors are easy to glance over.

[@bruhfis786]

Another thing about his claim with the lizard. If the new york police got a call about a "giant lizard running through the city", in reality, the police would most likely treat it as a prank call of some sort and would most likely dismiss it

[@TheLowBlow]

It was literally all over the news, just like doc ock being able to casually free roam around without police attention in Spider-Man 2 even though they already know he's real, stop with the awful excuses

[@bruhfis786]

@TheLowBlow I'm referring to a situation similar to tasm 1 where Peter tells captain Stacy in person about dr. Connors and even before Peter told him, the pd had gotten calls about the lizard. Stacy was just in denial and wasn't beliv9ng the calls. And continued to do so until lizard almost turn the entire city until lizards.

[@sleepyknight-ow4gw]

Never realized vulture went insane until this video. I just thought this was all anger

[@wingsofsigma]

a combination of both, you have to be kind of insane to suit up in a wingsuit and start flying your boss around new york with your face exposed.

[@wilcowan-daly5508]

I love how he’s got so much to say about The Lizard episode (number 3) and fails to mention that the news article is a copy and paste of the same paragraph from the intro and mentions villains like Shocker, Sandman, Rhino, Doc Ock, Green Goblin and Venom before they’re even introduced

[@azraelwolfsblood2902]

The biggest problem with the first episode is that Osborn and Vulture somehow managed to do a high speed chase in Manhattan

[@kennethcooper1124]

Bro I can destroy SK arguments so easily 1. Peter sets up the photo because at many points throughout the show Peter has shown that he’s trying to win thsi contest might I add contest implying if he doesn’t someone else will and Aunt May can’t afford to lose another possible revenue chain so ofc he’s going to take every chance to win 2. Peter in that moment is being cocky because he believes his plan will work flawlessly he believes he can simply knock the lizard into the drink and feed him the serum. He told Eddie prior to this plan to leave at which point he refused so Peter simply allowed him to do his plan because there was no other way to lure the lizard from his point of advantage in the reptile section to the only point in the zoo where he’s literally weaker and slower 3. The fact Peters name is in the picture could simply be a result of Peter not knowing Jameson would put it in it’s completely within Jamison’s character to leave it out especially when he doesn’t think any wrong doing could come from it. 4. What SK can’t fully comprehend and why the final scene is so good is literally Uncle Ben is dead because of Peter and his powers if he never got bit the bills would be paid but because of a random bug bite Peter now has to make money and be Spider-Man and the best way in this situation for him to do that while saving the day is to take the picture of him saving people. From a moral standpoint there’s nothing wrong especially when he believes and is capable of saving Eddie which he did before any harm could come saving Billy and curing Connor’s which might I add he literally created the very idea for the antidote as Peter Parker as well. He did nothing wrong from his point of view so it’s in character for Peter to try and cash in and get some reward for his powers and this is why it’s a big Spider-Man moment. He’s trying to “do both” and it blows up in his face because for him to get that picture and save the day are diametrically opposed outcomes. Either he saves Connor’s and Peter doesn’t get the photo or he gets the photo and Peter risks allowing his friends to get hurt or die. He did both and it still didn’t work which is Perfectly Spider-Man. SK doesn’t engage with Spider-Man media or any Media from a standpoint of character motives or human beliefs all he does is think what he would do to solve a problem with his benefit of hindsight and then judge characters in that situation

[@Kiko_mirai]

Bros a madvocate clone except madvocate usually has a point whenever he calls something out. Plus he doesnt really take Valid criticism as hate, he can realize some mistakes while still pointing out faulty arguements

[@cwizard]

Madvocate isn't great either but but SK sounds like a child imitating his parent the way how he writes his content so similarly to madvocate.

[@TheLowBlow]

​@@cwizardyeh because apparently every critic is a clone 💀🤦‍♀️

[@Dass727]

10:24 S.K. Nitpicks everything yet didn’t realize that the blade goes through a hole that’s already there then turns into a whole different hole

[@superpaytonmars8852]

I absolutely love how he uses MCU Peter as the model for a lot of his arguments, when that's easily one of the most different takes on Spider-Man.

[@skibot9974]

Espically since SK has stated in the past he hates MCU Peter

[@autobotproductions1244]

@@skibot9974what Spider-Man tales does he like?

[@skibot9974]

@@autobotproductions1244 it seems to only be the 90s show, the Rami Trilogy, Insomniac’s Miles Morales and the Spiderverse films

[@autobotproductions1244]

@@skibot9974 good to know. Thanks

[@TheLowBlow]

​@@skibot9974 yeh he's using MCU Peter as examples of what he did better than Spectacular in the same situatio, if MCU Peter was able to get something right that Spectacular spiderman failed at then that says something about this version of Spider-man, it has nothing to do with disliking MCU Peter that's just being biased, but that's what spiderman fans are anyways

[@Iamkelejr]

I gotta disagree with you on that last part of the video about how mcu Spider-Man doesn’t suffer consequences, when in homecoming like u stated how he quit the team and then came back but literally later in that scene he leaves in the middle of the night to stop the vulture and gets knocked out and trapped inside of a locked vault. Which in turns makes him miss the contest for his team. Which then makes everyone mad at him and then since him and Ned had a whole alien bomb in Ned’s bag it exploded in dc which then puts his friends in danger having spider man to rush from the vault to dc to save his friends. And for far from home well the consequences he gets by trying to stop Mysterio is that mysterio outted his secret identity. Which then in no way home he goes to doctor strange for a spell and obviously if u watch the movie it fails which brings villains from other universes which then Mcu Spider-Man has to stop and not only stop them he tries to cure them. Which his consequences in doing that is aunt may being killed by the green goblin and on top of that having Doctor strange make another spell that makes everyone forget who he is and now literally his whole life as Peter has been taken from him and now he is only left with the spider man identity. Which if u ask me that’s a shitty way to live life

[@Iamkelejr]

@noirstealth besides that great video bro keep up the great work 👍🏽🙌🏽 def got a sub

[@TillmanStudios]

Agreed. If anything, he has the most problems.

[@vineezyproductions9638]

could have prevented no way home from happening by making everyone forget about mysterio and also giving the colleges admissions department another phone call to plead his case and yet he still finds a way to fuck it all up. he is by far the dumbest spider-man and he deserves to lose aunt may, he had it coming.

[@Iamkelejr]

@@vineezyproductions9638 yk I can say the same thing ab all Spider-Man and their dumb mistakes….. yk like it’s not part of their character…..so what’s ur argument?

[@vineezyproductions9638]

@@Iamkelejr that was far stupid than what any other spider-man did. tobeys spider-man got cheated out of money that was on the ad, andrews spider-man didn’t have a penny. these were honest real mistakes, this guy is just a dumbass. i’m seeing a struggling peter parker financially in 2 iterations and a complete idiot here in the mcu. this is what happens when there’s no uncle ben, he’s a complete idiot.

[@KubzGrizzly]

I could never be in the same room with this guy and talk about or debate ANYTHING without me blowing up, I swear...

[@dante_0962]

You can’t debate with smart people because they can answer with good response. But you can’t argue with a stupid person who answers with stupid logic and refuse to admit it.

[@TheLowBlow]

​@@dante_0962 what stupid logic did he use besides the stupid logic in this show?

[@dante_0962]

@@TheLowBlow “why doesn’t this fictional character in a kids show stab spider-man” -SK

[@TheLowBlow]

@@dante_0962 you can't take criticism for crap that's literally Valid criticism 💀 dude the villains in universe don't give a crap about this, Sandman isn't thinking to himself "uh oh this is a kids show, better not stab spider-man"

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow No, but the thing is, the writers are restricted from doing certain things because of a little thing called, oh what's the word, CENSORSHIP. What, are you gonna complain Spidey doesn't get stabbed in literally any other cartoon? Heck, going by S.K.'s logic, all superhero cartoons suck because the villain never kills the hero even when they have the chance. A) They aren't gonna kill off the main hero and B) Some villains aren't cold-blooded killers.

[@salty4050]

i hope i aint the only one getting a headache from SK just repeating the word "stab him" over and over

[@MetalHopper]

I think is funny

[@BrandontheAwesome]

Yeah, gets on my nerves real quick.

[@chiagozienwasuruba9884]

I swear S.K. hates Spider-Man

[@Shade_Knightly]

So correct me if I'm wrong but what I'm hearing from what S.K is saying is he is basically "WHY ARE YOU ACTING LIKE AN ACTUAL PERSON! I DON'T WANT THAT I WANT PERFECTION!" I don't know is that in the ballpark or what?

[@tacittempo7774]

So annoying when he just repeats himself over and over again. Its not even funny or a good critique.

[@aniverse_574]

The thing with that Dr corners episode is that Spider-Man took too much of his time where he couldn't do a part time job ,which could have held them financially and this problem caused him to make some irrational & selfish desicion Which very human And that was indeed a peak spider-man scene

[@JayRedGear]

SK doesn't seem to understand this and flat out is removing context that shows why Peter is doing this. He doesn't understand that people can make mistakes and be selfish at times. In other words, he doesn't understand a damn thing about Spider-Man.

[@aniverse_574]

@@JayRedGear yuh He's being annoying and hypocrital at this point

[@JohnDanielRay1]

Okay first of all Peter wouldn't have made a selfish and irrational decision if he was in character in that scene, and even if it was within reason, the episode treats it like he didn't make any mistakes and got punished for doing the right thing when he didn't.

[@josefu98]

​@@JohnDanielRay1 What are you talking about? Taking the photos was a mistake and he suffered the conquenses, the point of the final scene is that he chooses to continuing being spiderman because the city needs it even if peter's life get ruined. Peter has made made irrational decisions in the comics too, even out of anger.

[@ALegendaryBlueHedge]

SK can say all he wants about Spectacular Spider-Man, but he cant deny that the theme song slaps

[@BrandontheAwesome]

FACTS.

[@TheLowBlow]

​@illuminoubshell So if Batman fell from space and survived you'd be fine with it just because it happened in the comics?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Dan Slott's comics are not the greatest, Spectacular was based mostly on the original Stan Lee run.

[@thatgoldenguy3272]

Half the things about vulture you can debunk by just showing the clip of crazy Dave saying “because I’m CRAAAAZYYYY!!”

[@l_a_n_k_y]

Ok I genuinely think this guy gets off on criticising Spider-Man content that is loved worldwide.

[@TheLowBlow]

I genuinely think you can't handle criticism of spiderman content

[@l_a_n_k_y]

@@TheLowBlow I didn’t make the fucking video 💀

[@spark734_spl]

All through the first episode, Peter is shown to be overconfident since he's new to being Spider-Man. So if they were to think about for a few seconds, these scenes make a lot of sense.

[@saadsami8860]

This person is literally like : Why is a fictional series is fictional

[@SSL_2004]

33:05 This one really gets me because Tobey Peter did literally the exact same thing in Spider-Man 1. As a matter of fact I'm pretty sure that's what this scene is BASED ON. Spectacular takes VERY heavy cues from the Raimi movies.

[@TheLowBlow]

Yeh and that doesn't make it ok incase you didn't know

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Dude, taking cues from other media is okay if done well. And guess what? This show does it REALLY WELL.

[@TheLowBlow]

@@BrandontheAwesome if you're a "spiderman rider" of course you'll say "it does it REALLY WELL"

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Because they did a great job adapting the material. A shame you can't see brilliant writing.

[@TheLowBlow]

@@BrandontheAwesome you literally gloss over problems in writing by saying "it's fiction" 💀 who are you to say what a brilliant writing is when you make fanboy arguments like that 🤦‍♀️🤣 fanboys accept everything, I'm not a fanboy like you

[@mannyfresh03]

The "punch him, punch him, punch him" part killed me. Like dude just doesnt realizes that their are some things super hero cartoons just can't do especially on a kids network. They were not gonna have lizard stab peter.

[@TheLowBlow]

Then don't put Peter in that situation in the first place, simple as that

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow Then you don't have an interesting fight.

[@johnsonnosnhoj3851]

Does anyone else get annoyed when he repeatedly says "Stab him. Stab him. Stab him."?

[@mr_nebulus6470]

Bro really thinks he’s Madvocate, 🤓”this villain’s plan is utterly preposterous!”

[@7fatrats]

Sk watched madvocates the flash videos and tried to do it himself... with a character who is known to not understand what he is doing.

[@mitts006]

Good video. When this show was new I was in the middle of the 12 grade. The animation/art style turned me off in a big way. I grew up with the 90s show when I was 4-7. People were ripped sure but they looked like real people. And Peter wasn't dealing with kid things. I give spectacular credit though that the writing is probably better and the updated animation in general is better. Just not my style. For same reason. Kind of like why I didn't care for teen Titans. I wanted to know what the Justice League were up to

[@aidanshowers8366]

I gotta disagree on mcu spider man not facing consequences. Although they may not be as major or treated in a grandiose way he still faces them. When he leaves the decathlon team to go track down vultures men, he gets detention and starts to strain his and aunt mays relationship. When he doesn’t send the multiverse villians back to their universes aunt may dies. Even if they are treated in a more lighter tone he still faces them for being spider man.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

exactly, this guy hates Homecoming when it's clearly better than every movie before it except Spider-Man 2

[@shadowanderson2004]

9:25 that weapon is most likely something based on a monks spade or a crescent moon shovel spear. The Crescent Moon Spade's versatility allows its master to hook, stab, scoop, sweep, smack and chop at opponents using techniques from spear, staff, broadsword, and trident fighting styles. The crescent blade was added to the opposite end to push away animal predators by the neck without killing them. Fancy Dan doesn’t have that. He only has the side meant for killing which fallows the “squashing” part of their deal.

[@jerbobsm]

S.K has the most diabolical and wrong opinion of all time 💀

[@TheLowBlow]

Because "he criticized a show I like"

[@jerbobsm]

@@TheLowBlow i haven’t even watched the show but i can still tell how far he reaches and how minimal inquiries he picks and chooses 💀

[@TheLowBlow]

@@jerbobsm I guess Lizard and Sandman not stabbing spiderman when they have the chance is reaching 💀 along with Vulture not wearing a mask which is the main reason he got caught in the first place, do you know what reaching is?

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow They would have unmasked Vulture anyway because Spidey would have stopped him, and it's a kids show, they are not gonna stab anyone.

[@haroldasusus4684]

“Spider-man is character assassinated because he made a choice that was slightly less logical than my idea” I hate this kind of critique because it expects every story to be about perfect logic machines that input plot point and export solution with no drama in between.

[@hiddenjello61]

Sk seems like he’s trying too hard to be Madadvocate for Spider-Man

[@quill_milk]

there’s no way s.k is even a spider-man fan

[@PrinceAliTheGreatest]

He is a Spiderman fan. You don’t have to like specific pieces of Spider-Man media to consider yourself one.

[@crazybl1tz88]

@@PrinceAliTheGreatest he isnt rlly a spiderman fan when the adaptation which embody some key points of spiderman are critiqued by him, not even good critiques too

[@PrinceAliTheGreatest]

@@crazybl1tz88 Ones perception on an adaptation aren’t always based on if it accurate, it’s based on what type of standards you have for entertainment. You, myself, SK all have specific demands for what we want and don’t want to see. He likes Batman, he dislike the Dark Knight, but likes The Batman 2021. He likes Spiderman, he’s pretty much dislikes The MCU’s Spidey, Andre Garfield’s Spidey, Insomniac Spidey, and Spectacular Spidey. He still likes TAS Spidey, Sam Rami Spidey, and The Spiderverse trilogy. One things that really needs to be mention is that he separates his critiques from his personal enjoyment of what he’s critiquing. That means he still likes Insomniac, Spectacular, MCU, and Webb’s Spiderman, as well as The Nolan trilogy.

[@crazybl1tz88]

@@PrinceAliTheGreatest yeah after seeing ur perspective ur right on this, but when he seperates his critiques from what he enjoys, he kinda misses out on the points of a lot of scenarios that play out where he just says "this is a waste of time there should be no funny situation coemdy in spiderman"

[@JohnDanielRay1]

There's no way you're acting in good faith atm

[@OzMotion64]

Making rational decisions 24/7 is not humanly possible. Peter finding a good spot to put his camera over saving Eddie from the Lizard is not character assassination. It is character development. The most relatable thing for humans is making mistakes. He’s talking about realism but realism is imperfect. Stan Lee’s mission was to create characters that he enjoys. Instead of Superman defeating every challenge that comes his way, Stan wanted to make characters that were relatable to him and his reader. Characters that make mistakes and have problems. Spider-Man is the embodiment of that. I think that criticizing Spider-Man for being imperfect is just a sign that he doesn’t understand that character. He wants everyone to be Rey Palpatine.

[@kenjinozomu2995]

Great, we have Under the Mayo, Cinemasins, and Now S.K. What more will we get?

[@oscilao5872]

at 22:40 you don’t even mention the fact that peter wasn’t even setting up his camera angle. he said he was looking for a spot to knock the lizard into the water. exclaiming that the dome had the “perfect angle”

[@lillyy256]

i've never even seen this show and i can tell this is the DEFINITION of "it's not that deep bro"

[@TheLowBlow]

of course you would say that, you never seen the show 💀 people give criticism to media all the time and nobody ever makes that awful statement that you just made

[@lillyy256]

@@TheLowBlow I was talking about the bro who was bashing it but alright buddy

[@TheLowBlow]

@@lillyy256 I know who you were talking about "buddy" that doesn't change the fact about what I said

[@TillmanStudios]

@@TheLowBlow Most of you takes have been terrible, but I agree with this one. "It's not that deep" is one of the laziest things to say.

[@TillmanStudios]

@@lillyy256 You are so lazy. You people with 'it's not that deep' argument are so lazy. Maybe a topic like this isn't deep to you, but it is deep to others. If it's not deep to you, don't say anything. But to others, like, LowBlow, SK, and NoriStealth, it is deep.

[@thatboikhy]

This guy S.K is just J Jonah Jameson... i feel like if spider-man was real, he'd be just as nitpicky as he is in the video

[@felixmckinney7132]

“I completely disagree with.” Actually you’re wrong, EVERYONE disagrees with!

[@lucky_shot5989]

15:07 no but some kid who's at a science presentation gets bit by a radioactive spider and gets spider powers is completely normal

[@TheLowBlow]

In universe it is normal, unlike everything else in this show

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow So getting spider powers is okay, but flying men, people being more durable, supervillain teamups, stuff like that crosses the line? Dude, have you ever read a comic book?

[@mattfromwiisports6209]

The problem with this guy is the fact that he expects a cartoon show to follow real life facts, obviously in any form of media the villain is going to show his presence, obviously then villain is going to be perfectly smart every time he enters a scenario, I don’t get what he would want to even watch

[@Targetstrike]

People passing off “I don’t like it” problems as “it’s bad” problems is so unbearable to watch

[@nicholaspeters9919]

Yeah, you have no idea how many channels I’ve unsubscribed from over the years because it was starting to look like they were entering that territory. That or some sort of burnout was starting to sneak up on them leading to them starting to focus on negative things.

[@clacker5799]

I am convinced that guy simply does not like any piece of media

[@cinamick2114]

If you really think spectacular spider-man was character assassination, why don''t you check on how the mainline 616 spiderman is doing. (Paul jumpscare)

[@doggois]

I like your video and agree with most of your points in it other than the MCU Spiderman faces no consequences. I know its a small part of this 40 minute video but i see it brought up so often i kinda wanna mention it lol. Like for Homecoming he's facing them throughout the movie every time he ditches his social life for spiderman stuff he loses social captial so much to the point where in the end Liz doesn't take him seriously. Other than that his grades and his relationships with his aunt and Tony are damaged as a result of him chasing avengers status over his own life, and because of that Vulture is able to find out who he is in which i think is a great scene guess my point is the MCU spiderman does have consequences they're just scaled down compared his other movie counterparts where New York/The World is a stake i think its a fine take on Spiderman where hes in a world where theres already heroes and he has to figure out who he is as where most of the time hes like the only hero in the world

[@autobotproductions1244]

I agree with you. Peters life should have consequences but it doesn’t have to be a constant misery fest like say the Raimi movies (just for an example)

[@Nolabray21]

It’s literally more spider man comic accurate, spider man spends most of his time not fighting his villains but helping random people who needs it too, he leaves big things for avengers all the time and deals with people in danger first

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

​@@Nolabray21 exactly, he even admires Iron Man like he admired Fantastic Four in the comics which they obvious can't show in MCU at that time, him talking bad about Homecoming was completely unnecessary imo

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 I'd say Peter would admire Captain America a little more, since they both never give up no matter the odds.

[@Uskwkajaijzh222]

SK tries too hard to be Madvocate, and he fails miserably.

[@egg0534]

From what I see, SK is trying to be Madvocate, but he's failing to come even close, the whole "punch him" is basically just "don't stop to talk" but 10 times worse.

[@MrGoofymcgoo]

Why does SK hate Spider-Man so much yet have an entire channel around it

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@illuminoubshell Oh God, I hope that doesn't happen...

[@nathanbarnes5543]

character assassination is when a character doesn't do the smartest, most optimal thing at any given moment

[@TheLowBlow]

No, character assassination is when a character makes a out of character dumb decisions, like Vulture not wearing a mask to conceal his identity when he's supposed to be a genius

[@nathanbarnes5543]

@@TheLowBlow buddy vulture almost never has a mask what are you talking about

[@TheLowBlow]

@@nathanbarnes5543 I'm talking about how it makes no sense for him to not have a mask, even homecoming got this correctly about concealing his identity, incase you didn't realize that

[@nathanbarnes5543]

@@TheLowBlow But how is it character assassination if he’s just making the same decision that his character has been making literally since day 1? Maybe he should wear a mask but that doesn’t matter since not wearing a mask is consistent with his original comic counterpart.

[@TheLowBlow]

@@nathanbarnes5543 So if Batman fell from space and survived you'd be fine with it just because it happened in the comics?

[@maxanderson8704]

gotta be honest with you here SKs video title calling spectacular spiderman an overhyped disaster is giving me wartime flashbacks to simply dads persona 3 is an overrated disaster video, which does not give me confidence for SKs video

[@heavenlyill]

Alternate title: Manchild picks and complains at kids cartoon

[@nicholaspeters9919]

In other recent news, lots of people online really like watching videos of cats doing silly things. More at 11.

[@genericdude8444]

cinemasins has done irreparable damage to internet critiques

[@aghitsaplane4262]

SK reminds me a lot of a 14 year old who just discovered media critiquing through cinema sins,he spends all this time nit-picking about stuff nobody would care about or notice because it's supposed to be set dressing to the actual substance of the story or claiming every bad decision a character makes as ''character assassination'' but when you actually listen to what he's saying it becomes pretty clear that he doesn't understand basic character writing concepts like fatal flaws or emotionally charged decisions and all he really cares about are cool fight scenes where every character is making optimal decisions like its a match of YOMI hustle it's really ironic that this dude claims to like the spiderverse movies because those two films are built around character writing that he constantly criticises whenever he isn't repeating jokes that he stole directly from madvocate

[@Spectacular_Elli]

This video perfectly breaks down all of S.Ks picky criticism

[@FazeRustyNuts]

You kids can't say S.K without saying "nitpick" 🤣

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@FazeRustyNuts Because that is what his videos mostly consist of, nitpicking. We're "sorry" if you can't see that.

[@TillmanStudios]

@@FazeRustyNuts Because every single critque he's ever had for Spider-Man goes against his character even though he says that they are the ones assainating the character. He's problems are that fights make no sense, which does not hold up because it's a SUPERHERO fight. And the rest of his problems are minor nitpicks and makes fallaceys by picking and choosing what to put in his videos and what HE wants to remember about the show. Which you CANNOT DO when reviewing a show.

[@deanmoriarty6015]

@@FazeRustyNutsbecause all he has are nitpicks, lol

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@deanmoriarty6015 EXACTLY.

[@THEcatinamicrowave]

SKs logic is that a villain screaming "CURE ME CURE ME NOW" Altos be thinking fully reasonably and rationally

[@TheLowBlow]

Yeh he wants to be cured and he's not even giving Curt the chance, this "wasn't thinking clearly" excuse is so awful it's not even funny

[@BrandontheAwesome]

@@TheLowBlow It is not an excuse, it is what happened. Electro was desperate and wasn't thinking rationally.

[@jonathansuber1551]

The only criticism I've ever had for spectacular Spider-Man and this was when I was like eight was that it got to plot points way to slowly but then I watched it a couple years ago and realized oh wait I was just consistently getting reruns of the same like four episodes that's why they felt so long-winded.

[@krispeybowl]

I’m seein S.K everywhere this dude is havin a field day digging on Spider-Man💀

[@dereknight861]

What does “S K” stand for?? “Spider Killer”?! Aw shit I think it does and he’s being smug and clever with it… You can’t tell a story without characters making mistakes. Even the greatest cinema stories have to have characters creating conflict for themselves. This guy seems to act like stories should be progressed by complete act of god incidents

[@TheLaserTarget]

SK really feels like he's trying to be the next Madvocate with his videos

[@SomeTexan]

This feels like SK saw one of madvocate's cw flash video, and wanted to do that. The only problem is that one show is good and the other is not.