Debunking ‘the coming collapse of China’ with John Ross

John Ross, economist, writer and Senior Fellow at Chongyang Institute at Renmin University of China, joins Ileana Chan and Fiona Edwards for Episode 7 of the No Cold War Britain Podcast.
In this episode we debunk Western myths about China’s economy and discuss the real impact of China’s extraordinary rise in improving the lives of hundreds of millions of people within China. We also assess the impact of the US’s new cold war offensive against Beijing and the dangers of the US instigating a hot war in the Asia-Pacific.
The No Cold War Britain Podcast aims to bring you in-depth monthly discussion on the key issue of our time - building the movement to stop the U.S. new cold war offensive and Britain’s role in this major threat to world peace and prosperity.
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[@vidsurf88]

Gordon Chang is a sad excuse for a China expert ... 20+ years being wrong. TV shows brings him in for entertaiment

[@63051]

Gordon Chang on CNN or Rupert Murdoch's Fox News reminds you of a performing monkey dancing to a music box in the street for peanuts!

[@skydragon23101979]

Peter Zeihan is the new Gordon Chang.

[@X-H-Wu]

Up to now, Chang is still interviewed by Fox as a "China expert". Anyone saying that China is collapsing is a "China expert".

[@jparsit]

Gordon and Peter these big boys no brains, they just lies for money and fame. But their comments were worthless. Look at their characters explain it

[@LW78321]

He's the biggest joke. Can't believe people actually believe the crap that comes out of his mouth

[@mikec4845]

The Soviets put nuclear weapons in Cuba because the US put nuclear weapons in Turkey. They made a deal to remove them from both countries.

[@yellowsheeps]

and to expand on your sentence, it was Kennedy who asked Khrushchev to not make public the first part so as the Americans could look peaceful and righteous. All along, it's the American Imperialists creating problems first (i.e. putting nuclear tipped missiles in Turkey) and the Soviets reacting to the provocation (putting missiles in Cuba). America is just a continuation of the British Empire. Britain has always been known as "Perfidious Albion" (refer to acts of diplomatic slights, duplicity, treachery and hence infidelity with respect to perceived promises made to or alliances formed with other nation states).

[@jayy1980]

All whites are like that, not a single one Britain, France, Germany, America etc etc are any different. Go check opium war, group of 8 . All whites are the same.

[@meilingfoo8771]

John is so right in saying we SE Asians do not want any disruptions in our neighbourhood. We just want to trade (and China is the major trading partner of most, if not all, SEA nations) and have a better life for our children. It would be best if the USA stop destabilising our region with its latest pawn.

[@TacticalMayo]

I hope you like fallout 4 ☢️

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

We like little-D-boi's like you. Just like we love Gordon Chang 🤡

[@alianpedia]

@@TacticalMayo I hope your democracy works in Afghanistan

[@TacticalMayo]

@@alianpedia sure didn't work out for the USSR I know that 🤣

[@bobsmith3983]

@@TacticalMayo Didn't work out for you guys in Vietnam did it. Leaving with your tails between you legs like in Afghanistan $1T later. You must have paid a lot of taxes to support those fiascos. Poor you.

[@dokinglife]

Wish more people can watch this. Always great to listen to logic factual based information rather than lies without facts or logic from western mainstream media

[@TacticalMayo]

This is Western social media 🤣

[@Pyasa.shaitan]

Lmfao, why are Americans so sadistic. You can’t watch people having food on the table with a good future?

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Nothing to do with scam-center tr0lls like you

[@shiulai5804]

@@TacticalMayo NOT really funny. This is NOT mainstream Western media. And YOU know it.

[@shiulai5804]

Each of us can do our part spreading the video to our circles.

[@kheesanlee6375]

Chinese girls wearing traditional costumes give me a sense of Chinese pride and being confident of Chinese cultures. That's an amazing thing! China is confident as a nation, there is no need of questioning one's own identity. It's a sense of being proud of a nation with 5000 years of continual cultural and philosophical development.

[@jparsit]

Look beautiful and classic, the western fashion is design as Sex object showing ass, big tits, and stupidity.

[@jparsit]

Jon hits all issues that China has done. Living standard, wages, NATO, etc. The US jealousy and insecurity fails.

[@mlrobert3338]

Chinese civilisation is more than 5000 years, and with more than 1.4 billion populations, which country in this world could match its progress today. To me, no one in their life time could ever accurately predicted China’s economy and future. China could handle any problems encountered so quickly before you could even realise the impact on the country.

[@mohba01]

Japan, South Korea, and later China are all economies funded by American money.

[@hindustan8796]

Where did you get this bizarre idea that china can handle any situation? Of course they can do anything by suppressing their population. Have u any idea as to how their blue collar workers r being treated right now.?

[@meilingfoo8771]

Thank you, John, for voicing out the real reasons the US is trying to kneecap the Chinese economy... without being apologetic about it.

[@mikec4845]

Red Star Over China is a good book from the first western reporter to ever interview Mao during the Chinese Civil War years.

[@stupidwars88]

John Ross is a great guest 👍. Will now check out his recommendations to read,

[@cpc9563]

This man is a genius. Along with Michael Hudson and Richard Wolff!

[@bopian8913]

And also Professor Jeffrey Sachs.

[@cpc9563]

@@bopian8913 Yes, totally forgot him. My bad.

[@dryeoh2023]

I love your videos and I love John Ross intelligence!

[@Gman979]

Mr Ross analysis is spot on and factual but it's going to make him a target for those China haters and sour grapes. But he has my highest respect in the class of E Tangen Cs.

[@TacticalMayo]

you keep forgetting the whole West is against him.

[@colinlee9678]

The Philipines' very late claim to islands in the SCS are greedily and fraudulently based on the recent news of huge oil reserves discoveries , not on any historical ownership and occupation ! Where was the Phillipines to make thrir claim back in 5000 BC wthen these islands were already owned and occupied by Chinese fishermen?

[@skydragon23101979]

I won’t use the word greedy but just said they made illegal claims. If they had been clear and diss used it nicely with China then things would have been a lot different.

[@grandwonder5858]

The Philippines didn’t become a country until 1946 when the US allowed the various Filipino tribes to form their own country! Before that the Phillipines were just several thousand islands spread across the South China Sea that the US occupied and made into a colony! There were over 7600 islands that made up the Philippines but less than 10% of the islands actually had people living on them since the Philippines was very sparsely populated at that time by tribal Asian people who spoke different languages from one another and had different cultures as well. At the same time that these islands were inhabited by small groups of tribal people there were hundreds of other nearby islands that were inhabited by Chinese people who made a living in the sea that surrounded these islands and many other islands that later on the US government turned into its Philippines colony. The islands that were part of China, such as the Spratly Islands, were part of China for many centuries before the arrivals of the US and Spain. The US never even claimed them to being a part of its Phillipines colony until it gave the Filipino tribal people their independence from the US empire and the US only did so because it wanted to use the Philippines as a proxy to start tensions with China as well as military bases to keep an eye on China and to interfere with China’s internal affairs as a way to weaken China since the US empire already had aspirations to being a global hegemon at that point in time and it felt by weakening China it could keep a powerful country like China down so that the US would be the only powerful country left standing on Earth so that the US would become the #1 country in the world in every aspect that mattered - militarily, economically, technologically, prestige. etc. That’s why when the US gave the Philippines its independence it pushed the Philippines to claim all of those islands that were a part of China as being a part of the Philippines! At that point China was a greatly weakened country that was being invaded and destroyed by the US’s, Japan’s, and Europe’s invasions so there wasn’t much China could do to protect its islands and other territories, which is why it lost Hong Kong, northern Manchuria, and other territories to the UK, Russia, Portugal, etc. The Filipino people knew they had no rights to claim those islands as being a part of their country, but with the US’s urging and backing they were compelled to claim those islands as being a part of their country since, at the end of the day, why would they turn down an opportunity to steal islands from China if the US was willing to help them get them? That was how the Philippines managed to lay down claims on the Spratly Islands and many other islands that belonged to China for many hundreds of years! This was also how the British was able to carve out large sections of China to give to India back when the British ruled over India and large parts of China! China suffered mightily when the Japanese, Americans, and the Europeans conquered it and carved out different sections of China for themselves! That’s what allowed newly created countries like the Phillipines and India to steal different parts of China and claimed them for themselves!

[@samliew6610]

This silly Philippines claim is solely instigated and pushed on by its Master

[@dashman13]

@@grandwonder5858 Whilst I will not disagree with the history of what you say, there is a huge problem with ownership of land and territories that you highlight in your last sentence "That’s what allowed newly created countries like the Phillipines and India to steal different parts of China and claimed them for themselves!". If a country can be newly created then is not the "The Peoples Republic of China" or "The Republic of China" a newly created country? They can be considered "newly created" too. It is not correct to assume China has not changed in thousands of years but everyone else has and so they are all not deserving of their own area's. Historical claims are destabilising. The generations that follow whomever "took over" a land do not like what happened either. It all resorts to terrible mass violence one way or another. And I am in no way excusing the USA, China, or even my own country. They have all done bad things. Respect, not domination is the only way forwards.

[@colinlee9678]

@@dashman13 If according to your logic, past invaders and colonisers are justified in stealing territories from a weak country then by the same logic as the original owner becomes stronger it is entitled to recover all its stolen territories from the past thieves ! The Crimes Act of any country allows recovery of any stolen property.

[@troutstalker7855]

John ross, what a legend 👏

[@lamrof]

6th Months we heard the Chinese economy has collapsed and or is collapsing. This past Quarter Chinese economy grew by 5.2% beating all 100 best western bogus economists. The US 1.6% gdp lower than ever estimate out there. lol. Give me a freaking break. This has become sad.

[@yellowsheeps]

Predicting China's economic doom is a cottage industry. The predictions have proven 100% wrong since 1949. Some examples: 1990. China's economy has come to a halt. The Economist 1996. China's economy will face a hard landing. The Economist 1998. China's economy’s dangerous period of sluggish growth. The Economist 1999. Likelihood of a hard landing for the Chinese economy. Bank of Canada 2000. China currency move nails hard landing risk coffin. Chicago Tribune 2001. A hard landing in China. Wilbanks, Smith & Thomas 2002. China Seeks a Soft Economic Landing. Westchester University 2003. Banking crisis imperils China. New York Times 2004. The great fall of China? The Economist 2005. The Risk of a Hard Landing in China. Nouriel Roubini 2006. Can China Achieve a Soft Landing? International Economy 2007. Can China avoid a hard landing? TIME 2008. Hard Landing In China? Forbes 2009. China's hard landing. China must find a way to recover. Fortune 2010: Hard landing coming in China. Nouriel Roubini 2011: Chinese Hard Landing Closer Than You Think. Business Insider 2012: Economic News from China: Hard Landing. American Interest 2013: A Hard Landing In China. Zero Hedge 2014. A hard landing in China. CNBC 2015. Congratulations, You Got Yourself A Chinese Hard Landing. Forbes 2016. Hard landing looms for China. The Economist 2017. Is China's Economy Going To Crash? National Interest 2018. China's Coming Financial Meltdown. The Daily Reckoning. 2019 China's Economic Slowdown: How worried should we be? BBC2020. Coronavirus Could End China's Decades-Long Economic Growth Streak. NY Times 2021 Chinese economy risks deeper slowdown than markets realize. Bloomberg 2022. China Surprise Data Could Spell R-e-c-e-s-s-i-o-n. Bloomberg. 2023. No word should be off-limits to describe China's faltering economy. Bloomberg

[@topsuperseven7910]

It's cute how many Chinese think gross GDP is the 'exam score' and its the real fight to see who 'beats the other' and is the number one big face lol

[@yellowsheeps]

@@topsuperseven7910 Many chinese economist were educated in the West or worship the West (due to propaganda) without realizing American gross GDP is a false measure (i.e. prostitution services and house flipping profits are considered GDP). All this talk about Chinese being smart (more hard working and obedient) you would think Ukraine/Russia events the last 2+ years has taught them something about Western GDP figures and it's accuracy in predicting "real" economic strength.

[@topsuperseven7910]

@@yellowsheeps lol "and worship the west (due to propaganda). There is no 'The West' and your 1960s soviet-brain is cute. No American 'brainwashed' the victim Chinese (who are like children?) into pretending gross GDP is the way you see who's the Gaokao Big Face and who is shamed by being a smaller score. What American and 'Thewest' economists have told them is they aren't so dumb they think GDP bloating means 'China is numba one strong!". Instead, GDP Bloating is a kind of temporary boost if done right for some desperate time IF you can get real value together. China didn't' do that and kept bloating gross GDP with 'bridges to nowhere' and now Chinese are learning a very hard lesson: Now they eat 3 yuan meat sticks for dinner, sell their car for 1000 yuan and hope the eBike keeps working and post more elaborate fake narratives on the internet to 'shame Thewest' so they feel bigger face somehow. Its sad.

[@prastagus3]

⁠@@topsuperseven7910there are other supplementals such as ASPI report that china is leading in 37 out of 44 critical tech

[@olliejohnson1733]

Thank you for the video with great insight.

[@luislim6311]

Common sense, which of these two country are more prone to collapse? One with $250T debt, credit cards debt of $1.2 T, 60% live from paycheck to paycheck, 13 million children go to sleep hungry, 20% skip meal to pay for the rent, on forever war, and thousands are homeless living on the streets; or another country with $200T savings? The answers is obvious!

[@MarcoPolo-hn8or]

Excellent analysis 👍

[@henrymac506]

Great video very informative thank you.

[@josephchuo906]

Great analysis!

[@douginorlando6260]

China’s getting discounted energy from Russia. That helps lower cost of living and cost of manufacturing. China just got a big boost in sales to Russia, helping to offset sale decline to US. In spite of sanctions and real estate bubble bursting, China is doing 5.3% growth rate

[@yellowsheeps]

In China, the real estate bubble burst was intentional and long overdue. In China, housing is for living and NOT speculation.

[@magnaviator]

Belt and Road took a sharp turn north for China, lol.

[@topsuperseven7910]

Doesn't it seem strange you'd have one of the most massive housing bubble collapses ever seen, a series of new sanctions and tariffs, a 3rd official year of declining population, more foreign capital leaving than entering (a first) and a number of major factories moving (Foxconn). Yet, amazingly, the govt of China reported a 5.3% GDP growth. Doesn't that seem baffling to you?

[@douginorlando6260]

@@topsuperseven7910 look at EV production and sales in China. Look at China ramping up integrated circuit chip production and sales. Look at 7% growth in military spending. Look at the accelerated rate of infrastructure projects. Look at the massive increase in consumer spending like tourism. Look at China’s rate of rocket launches and multiple start up companies. Look at mass production beginning of passenger airplane C919. There are 1000 imported manufacturing components under threat of sanctions that China is now working hard to replace with domestic suppliers. I take the CCP official line with a grain of salt but there are many pieces of China’s economy expanding so 5.3% is plausible. What’s not plausible is our own government’s official reports on unemployment, on cost of living, on inflation.

[@douginorlando6260]

@@magnaviator look at China’s car exports to Thailand. That’s just one example of China now dominating new sales. Belt Road is not meeting all the planned developments on schedule but overall it is still expanding trade rapidly.

[@frankforpeace9234]

Please share this video out as much as possible, we people don't want wars, but most of people are fooled by the politicians, we have to wake people up

[@linus631]

Anybpdy who said CCP instead of CPC don't know anything about China! If you agree, please press Like! ❤😂

[@mynameisyourname5533]

"The coming collapse of the collapse of the collapse." - Gordon Chang

[@sylvesterdefoe]

John Ross is so correct on so many things, except one. The Cuban missile crisis was as a direct result of the US placing Nuclear weapons in Turkey and refused to remove them for the same reason, that they were too close to Russia, and didn't allow for time. So it's the US repeating this same mistake again and again.

[@SouthsideMike-1226]

Excellent presentation by John. Great guest. I’ll have to check out his book

[@jerrystakeonchina799]

Nice Video - we should talk about my 20 years and experience in China

[@vanveakrin276]

President Xi will arrive in Hungary , Serbia , France in May 2024 ..to discuss the Independence of Europe...

[@TacticalMayo]

LOL!!!!🤣

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Little-D-boi's country numba-1?

[@eleanorwagner7981]

That was wonderfully enlightening. Thank you.

[@garylee9668]

John is so wise, i totally agree with him

[@mohba01]

Lol

[@LW78321]

Great discussion between you three, thank you!

[@mejiger]

Well done ❤

[@albertli3935]

Excellent analysis by John Ross, very interesting video with numbers of facts.Thank you for this interview.

[@kongngocontreras8781]

China has become what it is today is because of good leadership, - leaders concern for the welfare of its people thus gaining the people's support unlike the kmt officials during the early republic era who were corrupt and don't care about the welfare of its citizens that is why they lost and has to run to taiwan. The cpc officials continue to think how to improve economy to elevate the livehood of its citizens. After many years of sacrifices it has succeeded and became the envy of western countries and the model of developing countries. China to attain its goals - strong economically, 21:56 21:58 strong militarily, social stability - will rely on leaders like the founder chairmen Mao, Chou, Deng, Xi who thinks of the country's welfare. China needs to contunue promoting economic growth with neighboring countries, to strengthen militarily to protect its interest globally, promote peacefully and strenthen friendly relationship to all. The hundred years of humiliation will hopefully remind China to act fairly and not to interfer other countries internal affairs. China should continue to help less develop nations to grow economically thru financial and technological assistance.

[@gelinrefira]

The 2.5 percent growth of the US economy is also based mostly on government spending and financial sector. If you take out these two sectors, which produces very little actual useful things (military spending is not useful and financial boondoggles produce nothing except financial crisis), then there is nothing much left that is productive in the US economy. China's growth is in exports and manufacturing, and they have since moved decisively away from real estate as a major part of GDP growth and focus on high tech, high value supply chains and products. These are real things that people need, the world needs and are useful.

[@bobsmith3983]

It erroneous to think that all real estate companies in China failed as only a few of the 100,000 real estate developers went bankrupt so the effect on Chinese GDP was tiny. The West would like one to believe otherwise. The companies that failed had high foreign investment so those foreign investors lost the majority of the money.

[@gelinrefira]

​@@bobsmith3983 Yes indeed. But even before Evergrande, China already has plans to move away from real estate because they are already having excess capacity, and that urbanization is slowly down as they have already achieve more than 60% urbanization. They simply don't need that much anymore. Furthermore, as a Marxist Leninist country, they have strong state capital control and the last thing they want is home grown petty bourgeois challenging the socialist revolution. Evergrande, Country Garden are two companies that exemplified the recklessness of bourgeois behavior of risky over expansion, over leverage that often create bubbles and economic crisis. The real estate is there to make sure people are housed, not to allow rent seeking, and transference of social capital built up over the years, into the hands of the few through speculation and overleveraged expansion. The bubble has to be pop and it was pop ON CHINA'S TERMS. Evergrande and Country Garden also need to be make an example of. No bail outs of these companies and certainly no bailing out of foreign speculators who bought these companies' bonds. Save the people, save the suppliers, save the contractors and let these petty bourgeois sink. Seeing Blackrock losing hundreds of millions in an attempt to steal Chinese people hard earned capital and taxpayers money is just cherry on top.

[@mathquir190]

While the empire's going down the truths about history are going up.

[@mathquir190]

USA as been the destroyer of the 3rd world. China's going to be the builder of the 3rd world.

[@TacticalMayo]

USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

D-boi's numba-1

[@basque888]

Khrushchev didnt wake up one day and decided to place nuclear weapons in Cuba. It was a reponse to US plans to place nuclear weapons in Turkey. The whole Cuban crisis resolved with both sides agreeing to keep Cuba and Turkey non-nuclear countries and stays to this day.

[@colinlee9678]

Why hasn't China responded to the hot war already started by the CIA in a joint operation with local terrorists aybd the Indian Army Intelligence by training and instigating the recent assassinations of five Chibese engineers in Pakistan, similar to the past assassinations of Chinese workers on the BRI project's?

[@truthful3777]

That is Terrorism due to religion and not Cia doing.

[@middlekingdom4463]

So good listening to such an intellectual speech from John Ross !

[@jennyohara4011]

China has 1.4 billion industrious people..no slackers..impossible too fall

[@TacticalMayo]

LOL!!! 🤣

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

350.000.000 illiterate citizens. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Little-D-boi's country

[@bobsmith3983]

@@TacticalMayo Caveman Mayo here again.

[@OlJackBurton]

i guess you haven't heard of "lying flat" and "let it rot!"...

[@aldwim661]

Explains why we hear criticism of over production

[@Jeff-sm8of]

Yanks have gone from malice to none to malice to all especially to the mighty dragon.

[@TacticalMayo]

USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Little-D-boi's?

[@JenHope883]

Well said.

[@hsingchen5141]

Professor Ross' analyses and opinions are very illuminating and highly educational and therefore immensely valuable. His phrase of " attack on humanity" thoroughly describes the evil behaviour of the beastly creature.

[@TacticalMayo]

USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

The British-Raj

[@Juv391]

What's the name of the website he mentioned in 55 minute? I can't understand

[@gelinrefira]

What you said about the USSR and Hitler's invasion is starting to take shape with the sino US relationship because the Americans are so convinced that China only produces cheap, low quality goods and there is no way their military can hold up against the murican high quality military hardware (as if the Ukraine has not already proven otherwise).

[@vanveakrin276]

Germany is still using HUA WEI 5 G... Chinese company CHINA MOBILE is operating 5 G and 6 G satellite 🛰️🛰️ phones .. Russian people are using Chinese 5 G ...

[@user-fx6kh7ux1m]

Please do not misspell 'Huawei'; quite annoying.

[@8p.q8]

​@@user-fx6kh7ux1mHua Wei is correct spelling 😅

[@BatCountryAdventures]

The thing about China is that they are not only winning the game that they were forced into playing between 1970s to 2020s, they are going to start a new game altogether. We have all been bought up believing in certain values and rules and basically spent our lives living by these - oil is expensive, playing with stocks is great way to make money, if I get a house then its value will increase. Few of us actually stopped to think why and should it happen this way. I think China will soon come forward to shake these beliefs to the core and make us truly re-evaluate what should be valued highly and what should not. Like Napoleon said "When the giant wakes...".

[@wangjim5839]

Gordon Chang on the other hand had been talking about China collapse for more than a decade and is still talking and talking and talking😂😂😂.

[@user-xp4of2vu4r]

Interesting to hear that females are prevalent in university access than males - same as in the USA and maybe other Western countries. In sync with the reported reduction in male fertility? Thanks for presenting an alternative view and analysis to the news input we receive in the USA.

[@thabom9791]

The truth!

[@alcheung405]

A rare honest narrative of the situation with China! Thank you!

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese want to replace jet engine made by USA... with the Chinese Nitrogen Maglev train

[@bobsmith3983]

Chinese are replacing LEAP turbofan engines made by France on the C919 with the CJ1000A made by Chinese firm AECC.

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese and China will adjust to the Real Estate problems. New industrial output will develop to solve the Existing cash flow

[@TacticalMayo]

Nope

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Tell us about the caste-system

[@jsyo9639]

Which is the most aggressive country? Constantly at war for the last 200yrs with a short nation’s history

[@willgates8383]

Excellent analysis based on facts. It’s such a great shame that this video has such few views!!

[@TacticalMayo]

KZbin is a United States app

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

And little-D-boi is a 5 rupy-rupy tr0ll

[@madmanjshum]

The individuals who are the worst in their field of expertise always appointed to the position of "expert" the very second they have proven to be wrong with all their predictions. 😂😂😂😂

[@grandwonder5858]

Yep! Gordon Change comes to mind! All they need for that position is being able to lie with a straight face and pretend what they say is true!

[@cogniktive1147]

John’s closing remarks re facile western leftists are spot on

[@lifeisgood141]

United snakes lost every war since WW2 - Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and now Ukraine.

[@awjames1121]

We totally agrees that uk is in very very very deep financial troubles and problems now and actually uk is a bankruptcy nation now all due to uk working together with usa and innocently drag down by usa and results into uk follows usa routes to bankruptcy now,,,,,?....

[@rubylaser8601]

It will not collapse. But, it will gradually converge to like North Korean.

[@lachen7]

"If someone is growing 2.5 times faster than the other, than you probably need more crisis"! 😆

[@alfong8279]

Wow, this economist knows what he's talking about.

[@mohba01]

More like a cheap stake commie shill.

[@mohba01]

More like a cheap stake commie shill.

[@robertgittings8662]

*... more like 30 years*

[@skydragon23101979]

30 years.. Western exceptionalism again.

[@vanveakrin276]

JEW military is in Southern Hymmalaya to help the Indian military

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese Nitrogen Maglev train will travel at 600 km / hour to replace the Jet engines

[@jparsit]

In fact, it has reached 1000 km p/h.

[@Justice-Zcjh]

China themselves is already a market as big as the US and EU combine. Besides the US us and EU failed miserablly to blockade and sanction China in key technologies. You still expect China to go down?

[@jimmylam1486]

A lot of common sense in this video clip. Common sense is what the world needs , not arrogance or bias.

[@jeprotable]

31:13 nothing but the truth

[@peterjaniceforan3080]

🤔👍

[@lamodernista]

There is a greatly informative book to read about the recent history of China - 'THE CHINA MIRAGE - The Hidden History of American Disaster in Asia' by James Bradley. If you are interested in gaining a fact-based insight into the current geopolitical situation in East Asia, this book will abundantly provide it.

[@tc4660]

Hmmm how often do you go, to China?

[@billhammett174]

Pareto optimality = greatist good for the greatest number - which doesn't parse race, ethnicity, gender, nationhood... Just people. Some people won't like the outcome, but that's the way the cookie crumbles...

[@vanveakrin276]

Russian is proposing to China for a New shipping route by the IRTYSH RIVER from XIN JIANG through Kazakhstan to Ob river for destination the North Pole

[@shiulai5804]

Minute 27:06 The position of Women in China Didn't know that the MAJORITY of undergrads as well as graduate students are WOMEN. That is amazing, considering there are considerably more males in China.

[@dashman13]

Great interview. I do wonder how if countries move to higher incomes and then developing countries take on the industrial labor to become higher income themselves. What happens when everyone reaches this "high income"? Doesn't this mean then that everyone will be on "normal income". I feel like if there was a dread I say it, "utopian" equal governance, only then would peace be worldwide as competition and capitalism is based on a winners and losers model. As I see it, no matter who wins militarily and/or economically, we are just kicking the same can down the road.

[@bobsmith3983]

It will mean that all the countries in the world will manufacture most of their requirements as there will be no major labor cost advantage in other countries. There will still be trade and some countries will still have trade surpluses due to the efficiency of their supply chains and labor or in their possession of raw materials.

[@ChucklesMcGurk]

Prosperity in China is always next year, but you work hard now.

[@redkellyre6568]

The Gold is moving west ,and China is the biggest buyer.

[@bobsmith3983]

Gold is moving East, and China is the biggest buyer and producer. FIFY.

[@musiqtee]

Whether we like it or not - our sentiments don’t create objective realism. The largest difference between China and OECD now isn’t democracy itself, but the fact that the public sector has agency. Ours generally doesn’t, being outsold to the private corporate sector. That sector isn’t democratic either…?

[@awjames1121]

Why uk is in very deep financial troubles now,,, ,?...

[@rebym]

One also sees young Chinese men wearing Hanfu. Odd that he only noticed women! The economist that many quote or refer to when speaking about the coming decline of China is Michael Pettis. It would be interesting to hear Ross' views on him and his prognostications. In terms of the interesting anecdotes, I spoke to an old lady in China about 5 years ago. She told me that her mother was sold by her family in Northern China to a man from Southern China.

[@bobsmith3983]

Women in Hanfu greatly outnumber men in Hanfu. He is a male so naturally he notices the women more. Most noted on the annual China decline is Gordon G. Chang.

[@rebym]

@@bobsmith3983 Certainly agreed that Chang gets most of the press. I'm talking mainly in academic circles, where the underlying data/views that support the collapse of China nearly always come from Pettis. As Ross is also an academic, he should be able to refute Pettis. It would be nice to see him given an opportunity to do so.

[@mingtsang-wi5ee]

gordon chang got it wrong for twenty years . well done Gordon,

[@greenolive798]

If you tell the same lie about China enough times, people will start to believe it. I am glad someone is coming out and telling the truth about China.

[@vanveakrin276]

German industrial complex in Xin Jiang are preparing for future Russian market long term... Russian are continuing to demand for German machinery made in XIN JIANG China

[@user-fx6kh7ux1m]

Please spell it the standard way: Xinjiang

[@topsuperseven7910]

Oh it's definitely collapsing. It's been doing that for 10 years but now the big slide is well on the way

[@SmallTownResident]

Sure, and when it doesn't happen, you are gonna pull another Gordon Chang and revise to the next following decade.

[@premtiwari3161]

It takes a capable and logicalleader like Deng Seow Ping to bring up the economy of China. Lets hope his followers do noy destroy the progress out of ego and self interestd

[@vanveakrin276]

Chinese New Nitrogen Maglev train development.... Russian - China NEW High Speed train through Kazakhstan ....Raw Materials imports from Russia ... German machinery parts made in Xin Jiang for exports to Russia... Chinese mobile phones exporting to Russia and to Africa and to South America... ships exports to energy companies...

[@DarkVader-jj4dt]

Your description of a China expert is hilarious. LOL

[@kennyyap9745]

YR Medical Dynostic is Check YRSELF into Mental Asylum please....

[@raytang2817]

Surprised to know that there is someone who really know what is happening around the world. Sad to hear that there is possibly of nuclear war. There is no winner for nuclear war….

[@TacticalMayo]

China should have never reached for the crown 👑

[@bobsmith3983]

There won't be a nuclear war as the 1% in the West like to live above ground.

[@awjames1121]

Why booris johnson has to step down midway?. Is it due to uk very deep financial troubles now,,,,?.

[@georgejesson1944]

Where's the China expert Gordon Chang? He is the collapse expert predicting for the last 20 years!

[@vanveakrin276]

Gordon Chang is Trash

[@bobsmith3983]

He's hiding from the public due to embarrassment.

[@ahkoy973]

Are they being called China experts after so many bad forecasts?😂

[@LeonLKC]

John Ross is absolutely right ! China did not and will never collapse. I think Gordon Chang, in his book titled 'the coming collapse of China', was shortsighted. And he now he just wrote a new book about a China war. I begin to think it is also a shortsighted view !

[@user-fx6kh7ux1m]

Not shortsighted, but flawed.

[@bopian8913]

Not just short-sighted and flawed but also very stupid.

[@vanveakrin276]

Vietnamese have sent Vietnamese engineers to China to learn Chinese High Speed train technology because Chinese are refusing to build the Vietnamese High Speed train

[@peachychoc7905]

LOL! Correction! It’s not the Chinese refusing to build Vietnam HS train, but Vietnam Chose Japan over China to build their HS train, which Failed miserably

[@peachychoc7905]

LOL! Correction! Vietnam Chose J4pan to build their HS train which F4iled Miserably

[@taiwanstillisntacountry]

Ask little-India😂😂😂😂

[@qake2021]

👏👏👍🇧🇷🇷🇺🇮🇳🇨🇳🇿🇦➕️👍✌️✌️

[@bluefish7940]

😂😂😂

[@JackAtkins-xz5wi]

Jesus Christ is in Nunawading

[@medialcanthus9681]

What do you mean?

[@BillDingee]

How a man can make so much sense about the reality that is the Chinese economy and so little sense about the climate change hoax is perplexing. He should do us all a favor and stick to his own lane.

[@bobsmith3983]

You can't be an expert on everything and yes the man made climate change theory is nonsense. Climate has always been changing because the Earth and the Sun are aging. Human activity has a negligible effect on the Earth and natural forces is what shapes our climate and environment.

[@TheresaYipLF54]

Gordon Chang the great clown in CNN.

[@bopian8913]

Highly paid clown under the sponsorship of the CIA.

[@banshong3997]

Formerly Great but now little Britain or should I say Little England found itself to be irrelevant and just a little footnote in history. Roflmao 🤣🤣🤣

[@fastshootmmmm]

What do you expect from China ? 🇨🇳 😮😮😮😂😂😊😊the most educated population country ìñ the world . The most innovative and can manufacture many high technology now . Eñd of dìscùtion