Deciphering The Secret Ansem Reports in Kingdom Hearts 2...

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Deebeegeek

Deebeegeek

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@tvol322
@tvol322 3 жыл бұрын
I massively appreciate how serious you take disecting the lore of this game. so many people dismiss it and say "heart light dark yada yada". props and love
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so refreshing yeah. I get that it’s easy to poke fun at it for its Light, Darkness, hearts, etc. but I feel like a lot of people don’t realize there’s a purpose to all that.
@yd_things
@yd_things 3 жыл бұрын
Friendship. You forgot friendship
@Someguyhere111
@Someguyhere111 3 жыл бұрын
Those same people then also find that the story makes no sense and think it keeps contradicting itself. I wonder if there's a connection?
@BigHuskyGG
@BigHuskyGG 3 жыл бұрын
those are the same people who haven't played the side games and went into kh3 off kh2 and complain it didn't make sense
@unlinkingduck
@unlinkingduck 3 жыл бұрын
@@Someguyhere111 To be entirely fair, while the story is both my favorite part of KH and not as convoluted as people think, its hard to argue it isn't at least confusing and somewhat nonsensical (doesn't make it bad, it is my favorite part, but boy is it hard to parse sometimes)
@Dario-uj6qo
@Dario-uj6qo 3 жыл бұрын
"It dosen't give you answers, it gives you more questions" Guys I think he understands Kingdom Hearts now
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 3 жыл бұрын
It’s really a mix of both. But yeah 😅
@lucidsoliddale6877
@lucidsoliddale6877 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Seriously
@strohhuttv8848
@strohhuttv8848 3 жыл бұрын
He aren't wrong.
@gaming1zanagi-1999
@gaming1zanagi-1999 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah XD. The more you read through the reports the more you get confused XD
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
You defeated Sephiroth You defeated Lingering Will But now you must face... THE DEEP LORE
@oaktutor1154
@oaktutor1154 2 ай бұрын
honestly better than most stories, but confusing as someone lifting 1000lbs
@Blah3210
@Blah3210 3 жыл бұрын
21:15 This is a misconception. Think back to KH1 and you'll recall that Darksides, Darkballs and Invisibles were fierce and extremely aggressive Pureblood Heartless. Likewise in CoM and KH2 the Neoshadows are hyper-aggressive versions of ordinary Shadows. On the flipside there are a number of Emblem Heartless in KH1 and KH2, mostly mushrooms, who are not hostile at all and will never attack you. Emblem Heartless have artificial personalities that can potentially override their base instinct to collect hearts. All Pureblood Heartless on the other hand have an inherent desire to take the hearts of others. The reason why Shadows don't appear to be as hostile or threatening is because they represent one of the weakest forms of Heartless, made from those who lost their heart when they had very little darkness in them; that's why Sora became a measly Shadow instead of something more dangerous. Ansem, Seeker of Darkness was an exceptional example of someone with a strong 'superhuman' heart who was already so incredibly steeped into the darkness at the time he became a Heartless that he was able to retain sentience and his human appearance, albeit without a body - he needed to take control of another body, Riku's, in order to actually regain a physical form.
@Victor-um9ce
@Victor-um9ce 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought so.
@StarBornMichael
@StarBornMichael 3 жыл бұрын
It's only going to get more "Interesting". May your heart be your Guiding Key.
@thexreaper6930
@thexreaper6930 3 жыл бұрын
Theirs a phrase no one use in ages.
@stiletteleray1326
@stiletteleray1326 3 жыл бұрын
@@thexreaper6930 speak for yourself I tell people may your heart be your guiding key all the time! Lol
@fedwyn
@fedwyn 3 жыл бұрын
@@thexreaper6930 a lot of people say that, you just have to listen closely *wink, wink*
@steveburns6636
@steveburns6636 3 жыл бұрын
You are not truly become a fan of KH until you just stare at the screen and go "WTfek just/is happend-ing?!?" And I love it. There are so many ways to take some of these details when you stop and think about them for moment. It is so easy to just get lost in your own head
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Can I point out that DeeBeeGeek didn’t realize that the reports said Kairi was a *native resident* of Radiant Garden.
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC, didn't he recognize the library in Hollow Bastion in KH1 from the flashback showing Kairi in that library?
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gestrid Good point. I’ll have to double check but you might be right.
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 3 жыл бұрын
He should've already known that, since we see Kairi in the library in Hollow Bastion during a flashback in KH1. What is particularly interesting, in my opinion, is that Ansem the Wise remembered Kairi from Radiant Garden. I suppose that makes sense, since the only times we've seen her in Radiant Garden were around the castle, but why she presumably lived in the castle is quite curious.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
@@Klffsj True. Come to think of it Ansem said he ruled over Radiant Garden. If that’s true he would be king and Kairi is the princess so... father maybe???? Though it’s possible that “princess” has a different connotation here. Alice isn’t royalty yet she was one.
@Klffsj
@Klffsj 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebgoodman2076 I'd assume that we would know if Ansem the Wise and Kairi were related; I doubt he'd hide that. It's possible that Kairi were of some form of royalty or nobility, or perhaps she was otherwise somehow meant to someday rule Radiant Garden. Regardless, she seems to be someone of importance if she was living in the castle.
@KaimArgonarEyyyy
@KaimArgonarEyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
Going through these reports again after such a long while was quite refreshing. Actually remembering these reports tend to be a pain. Onwards to KH 358/2 Days! That should be the next game to be played. "I just wanna play videogames, man" Don't lie to yourself, you love getting your mind fucked by this franchise, just like the rest of us.
@liamwhite3522
@liamwhite3522 3 жыл бұрын
16:11 As you've discovered, the first 6 members of Organization XIII are the 6 apprentices of Ansem. And the 13th, Roxas, joined just a year ago. This plan of Xehanort's has been in waiting for a long time.
@liamwhite3522
@liamwhite3522 3 жыл бұрын
39:55 Person A loses their heart to darkness. Their heart becomes Heartless A. Their remaining body and soul becomes Nobody A. This is the normal way, and it makes a normal heartless and a normal nobody. Ansem (Xehanort) gives his heart to darkness. His heart becomes Ansem SOD. His remaining body and soul becomes Xemnas. This gives rise to a sentient heartless, but the nobody is unaffected. Sora releases his heart using a keyblade. His heart becomes a heartless. His remaining body and soul becomes Roxas. Again, this makes a sentient heartless, and a normal nobody. Kairi loses her heart to a wave of darkness. Her heart _CANNOT_ become a heartless. Her body and soul, therefore, do not become a nobody. This is exclusive to beings with absolutely 0 darkness in their heart. Sora releases Kairi's heart using a keyblade. Her heart cannot become a heartless, but the body and soul are already becoming a Nobody, so clearly it must create a Nobody for that heart too? Thus, Namine is born, of 2 (technically 3) unlikely glitches: heart cannot produce a heartless, body and soul is not the same as the heart within, and the act was done willingly.
@CasualGamerDude
@CasualGamerDude 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, When a heart is overcome by darkness the body and soul turn onto a nobody, but in Kiari's case, her heart cant be taken by the darkness, (Due to being a Princess of Light) And so when sora heart was overcome, her heart thought it was being taken too. but there cant be a heartless for her, and there cant be a nobody without a soul and a body, so Namine was Born of Kiari's Soul in Sora's Body, While Roxas Was also born with Sora's Soul in Sora's Body.
@Mike_Dubo
@Mike_Dubo 3 жыл бұрын
35:24 I just love the idea that Namine is basically an aberation among Nobodies, which are already aberations of nature, since they do not properly exist. Its like when you get a glitch in a videogame, and its one that occurs when a specific set if steps is done to cause it, then you have a glitch that happens because of some quirk in the original glitch's process, and thats essentially Namine's existance. She's a glitched glitch!
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive 3 жыл бұрын
but a beautiful one!
@xdragoonzero0
@xdragoonzero0 3 жыл бұрын
Nobodies aren't actually that much of an abnormality. Conceptually it's just the person who became a Heartless having the force of will to continue existing when normally the fade away despite the lacking a heart, to varying degrees of selfhood. It's a consistent enough event for it to be as normal a law of reality as people becoming Heartless. So Namine is just an exploit. Kairi can't normally go through the Heartless process so she can't have a Nobody. Ah, but what if you cheesed that by putting her heart in someone else and then making a Heartless. Boom Namine. The real glitch is Roxas. The process of willingly becoming a Heartless would normally leave a Ansem SoD and Xemnas situation, but Kairi used her hax powers to restore Sora's Heartless back to his normal self, and despite this Roxas still exists. This means that there are now two versions of Sora's body and soul existing simultaneously (three if you count Namine too). It's even more ridiculous when you include what's learned in BBS.
@lucidsoliddale6877
@lucidsoliddale6877 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdragoonzero0 please elaborate on the last part
@rjfrost7090
@rjfrost7090 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucidsoliddale6877 Ventus and Namine have two dads and one mom. We meet the other dad in BBS.
@RadimuxCisco
@RadimuxCisco 3 жыл бұрын
Namine and Roxas are both interesting. Basically it all started because Kairi's heart was inside Sora and when he brought her back he lost his heart in the process, then later was able to get his heart back thanks to Kairi. Makes me feel like he put his heart in Kairi when he brought her back and she was able to give it back. I don't know but that is what I like to believe.
@jonathon422
@jonathon422 3 жыл бұрын
Very few things in life compare to the feeling I get when someone experiences the same in-depth knowledge I've spent so many years with. Like a child wanting to continue the family business.
@narayananmohan8114
@narayananmohan8114 3 жыл бұрын
Ah.. He finally hit the reports and the growing headache induced from figuring out WHAT Namine is. Basically, to help out. Person/Somebody = Light + Darkness = Heart + Body + Soul Darkness consumes - Heartless. If Heart is strong - Body (Now Sans Heart) is Nobody. Memories of the heart (Person) goes to the nobody (Cos the heartless are creatures of pure instinct and aggression). BUT. Now. The contradictions begin. (And this is only till KH2 mind you. HOO BOY). Sora spent Veeeeeeeeeeery little time as a heartless before Kairi restored him> Which is kinda why Roxas didnt know about him, till Namine started messing around like an IT person with no experience in IT: "Have you tried turning it off and on again? Oh you did. Okay. Then cut the red wire. What do you mean theres no red wire?!" Technically, everything you do as Sora after the first fight in Hollow bastion is Sora's Heartless, Restored. NOT Sora on the WHOLE. But thats a whole OTHER can of worms that we dont have time to unpack right now. Kairi - Possesses no darkness. Therefore No heartless. But also in losing her heart - the body remains in the realm of light (Which then becomes a huge thing in phase 2 of KH1). So... Technically Kairi's BODY lost its Heart. But there was no Heartless formed. But the body belonged to someone with a strong will. So it "reanimated" itself and became Namine. BUT Kairi's heart didnt join the darkness (Instead going to Sora) - So Namine had no memories of her own. BUT since Kairi was joined to Sora's Heart for SO LONG (literally after the events of Destiny Island's Collapse), she got some weirdo powers to alter HIS memories and those that had to do with them. So.. Namine technically isnt even a "body" at this stage. THAT is what Diz was freaking out over. An analogy if you will. When you bring an object close to a curved mirror and you position it juuuuuuuust right (See google, depending on convex/concave mirror for exact conditions) - You get an "Imaginary" image that doesnt really exist, and cant be caught on a screen. That is Namine. In a nutshell. OH. Also. Xemnas/Xehanort's Nobody wasnt the one who discovered Namine - HENCE No X in her name like all other nobodies. I wonder who named her then... Maybe she did herself. Or maybe it was Marluxia when he went in riiiiight before COM. And this is only considering the events of KH1, Re:COM, and KH2. NOTHING Beyond that - Cos THAT produces its OWN set of cluster headaches in itself.
@DemiTrusdale3
@DemiTrusdale3 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why, but I don’t think I’ll ever get tired of watching dee bee processing the lore, 👍
@Dario-uj6qo
@Dario-uj6qo 3 жыл бұрын
"Kingdom Hearts is about sacrifice" Laufhs in Nomura
@kyoukaorientalritualistic
@kyoukaorientalritualistic 3 жыл бұрын
But master of masters said " Luxu.. It's not about sacrifices.. IT'S ABOUT THE DIGNITY OF PEOPLE WITH HEARTS"
@TheHeroBleeder
@TheHeroBleeder 3 жыл бұрын
@@kyoukaorientalritualistic bruh.
@dogti2959
@dogti2959 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I've been sucked into this series, never to leave again. I could only play KH3 and the game that come after, so I was bound to let's play all these years. Yet, the story kept on fascinating me time and time again. It may be convoluded, and sometime silly. But it's so damn good I can easily forgive it. 358/2 days already make your hurt bleed, but BBS is my personal favorite. And even these games doesn't compte with what 3D introduced, and the road we are taking after KH3 and the Union Cross stuff. May your heart be your guiding key, my friend !
@leonoliveira8652
@leonoliveira8652 3 жыл бұрын
Galaxy Brain Dee strikes again. Making the connections from the reports to whatever lore you know for the first time is insane stuff, and I'm glad to be here with ya along the way.
@DBWhale
@DBWhale 3 жыл бұрын
Love this game series. Easily my favorite of all time
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
These Ansem Report videos makes me even more excited for you to see things like **** ****** get introduced, ******’s true identity, the **** ** ********** and more!
@nick_2533
@nick_2533 3 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible, I've nothing more to say.
@nick_2533
@nick_2533 3 жыл бұрын
And I don't say it just to say something, I truly appreciate your love for this convoluted, confusing and fascinating story. There will be some hiccups (coff* coff* DDD) but please, never stop loving this games, they really deserve it
@GucciPucciMIH
@GucciPucciMIH 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not incredible it’s Kingdom Hearts
@TimmysohnLP
@TimmysohnLP 3 жыл бұрын
I hoped so much that Dee would see through the names of ansems apprentices/organisation members. And when he did I was just amazed. I have never seen any KZbinr on Dees level when it comes to understanding KHs plot just by himself without relying on chats help. See you all later in the BBS stream. It’s going to be lit🔥
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure NicoB did.
@TimmysohnLP
@TimmysohnLP 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarlton1484 Could very well be. I don’t remember too much of his playtrough😅
@beastlysoldierful
@beastlysoldierful 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarlton1484 he was told about Roxas's name before it revealed
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 3 жыл бұрын
@@beastlysoldierful Bruh, we're talking about the other members...
@beastlysoldierful
@beastlysoldierful 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcarlton1484 he was told
@yamiro3910
@yamiro3910 3 жыл бұрын
I did not expect you to love this series as much as you are, As you said at the very start you hope we can re-expierence it through you and i didn't really think that I could. But I was wrong I love this kh journey you are on! And it definetly is something I look forward to
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive
@O_Ciel_Phant0mhive 3 жыл бұрын
As an old KH fan I still learned something new from this :') thank you for this.
@acehealer4212
@acehealer4212 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, DeeBeeGeek puts the pieces together very well. If you still have some questions, it might be worth looking up translations of interviews with Tetsuya Nomura from the Kingdom Hearts Ultimania books. He still leaves some things open to be explained in the later games. I should watch DeeBeeGeek’s streams. It must be a lot of fun to see him experience the games live.
@nitromiyazaki
@nitromiyazaki 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s see if I can actually explain this, as I have only the same amount of info Deebee has. 1: Sora and Kairi’s hearts are separated Simultaneously. 2: Sora turns into a heartless. 3: Namine is born and uses Sora’s body and soul to come into being, a.k.a. combining with Roxas. 4: Kairi’s princess heart purifies Sora’s heartless, removing the darkness and restoring Sora back to his human form. 5: Roxas loses memories due to Sora returning from being a heartless, cutting his connection to Roxas, and Roxas doesn’t have the same drive to find his heart because their is no heartless for him to find, and because Sora already has it and isn’t searching for him. From what I’m getting here, Sora no longer technically has a body and soul for a while until returning to Roxas, but is a fully functioning heart held together due to Kairi’s body and soul. Meanwhile, Kairi loses her body and soul, but her heart is held together using Sora’s body and soul as Namine combined with Roxas. This means they are literally holding each other together. If one died, the other would likely die too because of how entangled they are. Their fates are literally intertwined in a knot.
@justinbrummett
@justinbrummett 3 жыл бұрын
I still need to catch up on your KH2 playthrough, looking forward to your reaction to the Ansem The Wise reveal. Also little fun fact for Dee Bee in case he didn't notice it the first time: Ansem The Wise was voiced by the Late Christopher Lee
@TheMrChipmyster
@TheMrChipmyster 3 жыл бұрын
He’ll always be Count Dooku to me.
@justinbrummett
@justinbrummett 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMrChipmyster I like to call him Darth Saruman
@KaimArgonarEyyyy
@KaimArgonarEyyyy 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest men with one of the greatest voices ever.
@rotciv557
@rotciv557 3 жыл бұрын
@@justinbrummett That's Darth Saruman the Wise to you!
@Hadaron
@Hadaron 2 жыл бұрын
Willy Wonka’s Dad, Darth Saruman the Wise
@FrostbiteDigital
@FrostbiteDigital 3 жыл бұрын
You think it's all convoluted now? *Laughs in Dream Drop Distance*
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Union Cross*
@FrostbiteDigital
@FrostbiteDigital 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gestrid Oh dear... 😂
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE
@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gestrid I honestly don’t think Union Cross is all that convoluted when compared to DDD.
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyTheGamerOfJUSTICE DDD is convoluted because of its delivery. But the biggest shock of DDD doesn't come until you've played or watched KHUX.
@annatuira4678
@annatuira4678 2 жыл бұрын
Not only am I impressed by your understanding of the story based on these reports, I am also so grateful that you do these videos in this way! I've been a kingdom hearts fan for many many many years now and thus know almost all of these things already, but I've never really been able to read through all of the Ansem reports (combination of not having the actual games and adhd brain not letting me read through them carefully) but the way you do this makes it so easy to follow. Reading them aloud, telling your thoughts as you read them, and even the edits with the "mysterious" vibes really make this so much easier and more interesting to follow. I can finally say I've read through them too now, and there's always more information to discover that I either missed or forgot. So from this adhd-er: thanks so much! It's been so interesting to follow your journey, and you make it so easy and enjoyable to follow along. I am eager to watch more. From the bottom of my heart, thank you SO much❤
@EternalKHFan0
@EternalKHFan0 3 жыл бұрын
11:09 To give some clarification here: In the vanilla _Kingdom Hearts,_ there were just 10 reports, and in the original Japanese version, the reports were numbered 0-9. Final Mix added 3 more reports, making it 0-12(1-13 in English version). Thus, when Secret Ansem Reports mentions "Report 0", it's referring to first Ansem Report we get in first _KH_ by defeating Genie Jafar. 25:16 Ansem's referring to his DiZ-outfit(a "DiZguise", if you will).
@The_Moe_Szyslak_Exp_feat_Homer
@The_Moe_Szyslak_Exp_feat_Homer 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, so that explains it... Seems like a unfortunate oversight by the translators. Too bad they didn't at least fix it in the Final Mix.
@royalknightsleipmon2345
@royalknightsleipmon2345 3 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to explain Naminé is that, according to the rules of Kingdom Hearts' world, if a heart is lost from a complete person a Nobody is born. That is something that must occur. Under normal circumstances, the person who lost their heart has what's left of them (their own body and soul) become the components of a Nobody. Kairi's heart left a body. That was the condition for a Nobody to be born, according to the rules of the world. But Naminé was a special case for three reasons. 1. Kairi's heart left someone else's body, not her own. 2. Kairi is a princess of heart, an already very rare and special kind of person, and as such Naminé's creation didn't involve darkness. 3. Kairi's body and soul weren't available to be reincarnated into a Nobody since Kairi remained a complete person. This was pretty much the same with Sora. As such, a different body and soul came together to create Naminé, or rather, a new body and soul sort of came into existence through the natural magic that governs the world's rules. Naminé was such a special case because the basic conditions that force a Nobody to be created were fulfilled, but none of the other normal conditions under which a Nobody is born were fulfilled. She's pretty much the most unique person in KH lore because she's such an anomaly. She's a little bit Kairi and a little bit Sora (the "heart leaving a body creating a Nobody" was her heart leaving his body), and was born because the rules of the world were bent but not broken.
@livfreely8853
@livfreely8853 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos cause I played KH2 for the first time back in like 2006 and that was the only time I ever went through the reports with a fine toothed comb, so it's great going back with fresh eyes to revisit them.
@SwolTako
@SwolTako 3 жыл бұрын
I like how Naminé is basically summed up as "I'm just built different" and Dee is is being driven to absolute madness trying to understand wtf she is.
@leandroroman7053
@leandroroman7053 3 жыл бұрын
Well, she's nobody but Namine. Pun intended for Tako.
@smugsneasel
@smugsneasel 3 жыл бұрын
41:39 There's the moment we were all waiting for~
@FINALPRECURE
@FINALPRECURE 3 жыл бұрын
Hype for Birth by Sleep! I love your reaction to 358/2 Days. Somebody nobody knows is one of my favorite character.
@kyoukaorientalritualistic
@kyoukaorientalritualistic 3 жыл бұрын
I read that in one of vexen's reports but I don't who that is too..
@TheHeroBleeder
@TheHeroBleeder 3 жыл бұрын
Who is that again it's weird I feel like I'm forgetting something really important.
@CCCMTTT
@CCCMTTT 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching you put together the puzzle pieces as you go through understanding how convoluted this game is and beginning to be able to predict future details
@buelerus9970
@buelerus9970 3 жыл бұрын
36:50 You remember the Scene in KH1, where Kairi is blown into Sora on Destiny Island? That was the Part where Kairi lost her Heart-ish something and moved it into Sora.
@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902
@franciscojaviermendezrinco1902 3 жыл бұрын
That explaination about Namine and Roxas had an extra factor, but say it is spoilers to Birth by Sleep.
@spiridiums
@spiridiums 3 жыл бұрын
I think my favorite part about this breakdown from DBG is his understanding of why people say Kingdom Hearts is one of the most confusing stories in modern media :'D I get a headache every time I try to explain this story to people for this exact reason, but dang if you didn't manage to get a really good grasp of everything first try!
@misterfevillord1588
@misterfevillord1588 3 жыл бұрын
I liked trying to figure the lore out while playing, at the moment I obtained the report. But doing a review at the end is also fun!
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, some of the Reports can be a bit spoilery if you read them as you get them. For example, you get the Report that says that the Ansem Reports in KH1 were written by a different Ansem before you learn in-game it from Mickey, IIRC.
@ScrapsandSlaps
@ScrapsandSlaps 3 жыл бұрын
Just as you’re getting halfway through your journey, Sora decides to jump into Smash XD
@Jet_Lunar
@Jet_Lunar 3 жыл бұрын
This series is truly worth the commitment and listening to these dives into the reports are fantastic
@chabaloo8855
@chabaloo8855 3 жыл бұрын
KH's plot is hard to get into but once you get it, it's actually pretty logical in its concept and rules. It's not so complicated when you have all the elements from all the game too
@Thunderboy179
@Thunderboy179 3 жыл бұрын
So looking forward to your BBS lp dee! I watched your days reaction and what an emotional rollercoaster that was for you. I hope your break after tomorrow will recharge you so you can head into BBS with a fresh mind and a great excitement and curiosity for the material that one presents
@PurpleTheta
@PurpleTheta 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dee? I’ve sorta been following along with you with the KH Story (I know the majority of it just not a lot of pieces in the middle). I found out why Sora has Anti-Form. When Sora sacrificed himself to bring back Kairi’s heart, he became a Heartless. Kairi knew that Heartless was Sora and brought him back using her own Pure Light from her Heart. Sora is very…special. He returned to his original form without his body (because his body/vessel was used to give life to Naminé). Whenever Sora overuses his powers of the Keyblade, the darkness in his Heart tries to take over. That being his Anti-Form.
@ZenseZone
@ZenseZone 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, it will be so much interesting when you (DeeBeeGeek) continue this extremely deep rabbit hole that is called "Kingdom Hearts" story/lore.
@Geobot3000
@Geobot3000 3 жыл бұрын
Dee now: I think I get it now... Dee once he gets to DDD: WHAT TF IS GOING ON?!?
@zeroknight1311
@zeroknight1311 3 жыл бұрын
All I'll say is remember how Roxas is Sora rearranged with a "X" in it. As that is the Key to a lot of names that has a "X" in it.
@daishoryujin95
@daishoryujin95 3 жыл бұрын
Or should I say… the Kye/Chi?
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
The recusant’s sigil. The heretic’s mark the Organization uses on its members. It’s a simple change but kind of scary in a way don’t you think? They’re bound to each other.
@TheAnonymousShade
@TheAnonymousShade 3 жыл бұрын
The recusants sigil is because of Xehanort’s obsession with the Kye blade
@Blah3210
@Blah3210 3 жыл бұрын
Do it to Xehanort and you'll get an interesting result.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnonymousShade True but it also has been shown to be a binding seal. It’s how they track down others. Played a pretty big role for Sora in Dream Drop Distance.
@dr.sherlock8225
@dr.sherlock8225 3 жыл бұрын
The most important answers are those which can only be found by questioning what you really know.
@PackZTerrible
@PackZTerrible 3 жыл бұрын
I saw parts of the stream need to see this again. I love this story but i only understood everything after lore videos. Thank you for all the work! Really looking forward how the journey continues.
@Nazo-kage
@Nazo-kage 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s a detail that you can notice very easily but nobody in any of the games mentioned it. Roxas and Sora look nothing alike. And even though it was eventually revealed why it was always a detail in the back of my mind. Because every Nobody retains who they used to be.
@Blah3210
@Blah3210 3 жыл бұрын
That's not necessarily true. Roxas and Sora share exactly the same face and body type, just like Naminé and Kairi do. I understand where you're going with this implication, but it's likely that "Roxas" was responsible in part for Sora looking the way he does - if you catch my drift.
@forastero54321
@forastero54321 3 жыл бұрын
Man, It’s been such a long while since I deep-dived into these reports that I either don’t remember much of this info or it flew over my head back in the days. It’s fun looking at this info along side Dee.
@Thundersphire78
@Thundersphire78 3 жыл бұрын
To find is to lose, to lose is to find.
@gabrielguzman5742
@gabrielguzman5742 3 жыл бұрын
I finish KH2 two days ago so this video suits great for me!!! (also i already watched your ansem reports KH1, you are awesome man)
@harrysgirl101
@harrysgirl101 3 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you are joining the Kingdom Hearts fandom just in time for the 20 year anniversary! You get to climb on the hype train with the rest of us when the next game is announced! Lets enjoy the ride together! May your heart be your guiding key! 💙
@thedoorman6940
@thedoorman6940 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's been some time since you read these reports so you likely understand now, but on the off chance you don't, about Namines situation. Here's how I came to understand it. First with the Nobodies themselves, when they come into being they use the memories of their original bodies as a sorta blueprint to reconstruct themselves into a new being. Kairi is a unique situation, being a Princess of Heart she's literally incapable of producing a Nobody on her own, because her body still sticks around after the heart is gone. So, in order to even have a Nobody, it needs an outside party to produce one. AKA, Sora. When Sora released his heart, not only was Roxas born, but Namine too thanks to Kairis heart being released too. One issue, Sora ain't Kairi, and he already got a Nobody, so how does this new Nobody get a body? Extract from the memories. Soras memory of what Kairi looks like is used as the blueprint for how Namine looks instead of the usual method, the body itself. Which probably explains her power as she's closer to Soras memory that way. At least that's how I understood it after some thought. Hope that made sense :/
@israelchavez6975
@israelchavez6975 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that u actually figured out who were Braig, Dilan, Even, Ienzo & Aeleus on the first try. Congrats 👏 Also yes, Naminè is a witch, cuz it's literally said that she is one in kh2 & Re:chain of Memories via her character bio. Can't wait for u to play BBS on critical mode 😄
@Some_Random_Guy
@Some_Random_Guy 3 жыл бұрын
All I have to say in regards to BBS critical is I hope he gets at least a little help when it comes to melding, otherwise who knows if he'll ever get Second Chance or Once More 😅 I personally never play without a guide because the trial and error to get certain abilities is just tedious
@israelchavez6975
@israelchavez6975 3 жыл бұрын
@@Some_Random_Guy bruh fr, Since some have a random/low chance of appearing when melding 😩. He'll also most likely need help for grinding & He'll most definitely will need to make mega Flare commands to have it be faster
@FrostbiteDigital
@FrostbiteDigital 3 жыл бұрын
When he deciphered those names, I was very impressed
@PetelProduction
@PetelProduction 3 жыл бұрын
5:00 "my apprentice Even" - Even with a capital E. Even is a name. I.E, Even, my apprentice, has shown interest in Xehanort's memories
@saiyanelite338
@saiyanelite338 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait from him to start bbs and see his brain drip through his ears from that cluster storm of lore.
@zeroknight1311
@zeroknight1311 3 жыл бұрын
So timeline of play order for the games. And this does include what you played: KH 1 - Re:Chain of Memories - KH 2 - 358/2 days - Birth by Sleep - Re:coded - Dream Drop distance - Birth by Sleep 0.2 - KH 3 - Melody of Memories For the Important lore: Back cover - KH Union X - Darkroad(Ending is delayed) The Union X stuff takes place thousands of years in the past. And Dark Road takes place a few decades in the past. Plus both are mobile games but are important. All the while Back cover is apart of 2.8. Which has Dream Drop Distance HD and 0.2 in it. It has some important information that helps with the lore. Also Back cover has no game play, you can watch the cutscenes of Union X and Darkroad on youtube. And Melody of Memories is a rhythm game.
@jorgitosilva
@jorgitosilva 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike regular people who lose their hearts... Kairi did not lose hers to the darkness since she had no darkness in her heart as a princess... instead her body stayed there... not being able to produce a nobody since the soul stayed in her actual body... then Sora came and unlocked his own heart to give it to kairi to wake her up... hence connecting their hearts and souls together... there sora provided what was lacking to start the process of creating Kairi's nobody... Namine... That procedure allowed connecting his heart to naminee too while she was being born... which gave namine the power to have access to peoples hearts/memories... AT THE SAME TIME Sora's own nobody was created... Roxas... then when Kairi gave sora's heart back she went back to not being whole since she did not have the piece from where namine was created anymore... just as namine was incomplete since kairi did not completely lost herself and sora got his half back... So both Namine and Kairi are unstable beings... That being the reason why namine had to disappear for them both to become one whole being again... At the same time since Sora became a Heartless for such a short time... Roxas managed to be born... but the memories from sora did not manage to set in to the newly created roxas before going back to sora... Hence roxas was a memoryless nobody and Sora's memories had a hard time returning to sora after namine extracted them because of Roxas existence...
@nickdevlin3072
@nickdevlin3072 3 жыл бұрын
I never read them but now I'm so interested in the reports, sounds spooky when he was reading them lol great video 👍
@CrossOutBryce
@CrossOutBryce 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing you go through the lore is SO entertaining 😂 Ansem: "My six apprentices-" DeeBee: "SIX?!!!" 👀
@ronnysmith4475
@ronnysmith4475 3 жыл бұрын
You're gonna love BBS and 358/2 Days
@shimshawcreamtime2845
@shimshawcreamtime2845 3 жыл бұрын
Dee is a genius figuring the name thing
@RyanBlazeheart
@RyanBlazeheart 3 жыл бұрын
Sora does have a small amount of darkness, which is why he became a sentient Shadow heartless from turning the Keyblade "Dark Riku" aka Ansem Seeker of Darkness made from the other 6 princesses hearts on himself. Because his life as a heartless was so fleeting however, his Nobody didn't have time to gather Sora's memories and was basically a newborn with a blank slated mind. When Kairi's heart was returning to her body Namine was born in Castle Oblivion.
@RyanBlazeheart
@RyanBlazeheart 3 жыл бұрын
Also because of Kairi bringing Sora's body back with the power of her shining heart. He was basically a Pseudo-Heartless since Roxas was walking around with his real body. Sora became complete from absorbing Roxas. As a result of Roxas joining though Sora has become a lot more emotionally aggressive. You noticed throughout all his fighting I'm sure. DiZ to Roxas, "You should share some of that hatred with Sora, he's far too nice for his own good."
@mimid9550
@mimid9550 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for you, I love watching you play this game series. I've got a special spot in my heart for the next entry Birth By Sleep. When I was a kid I only had the PS and only played KH 1 and 2. I was totally lost and because of stuff in life I fell off KH for a few years. BBS reignited my love of the series, it remains my personal favorite story.
@teh_via
@teh_via 3 жыл бұрын
"it doesn't give you answer, it gives you more question." Welcome to kingdom hearts
@hawyang
@hawyang 3 жыл бұрын
40:00 DeeBee think of it like this roxas and namine are like twins P.s I agree the report made it confusing. But basically put Ansem the wise consider namine a special nobody because she wasn't created the normal way. Kairi is a princess of heart. A person of pure light, thus she cannot create a heartless nor a nobody. But kairi's hearts was in contact with sora right till the moment before he turn into a heartless therefore when his body become roxes it also created namine because kairi heart was in such close proximity to sora the moment he turn into a heartless
@thexreaper6930
@thexreaper6930 3 жыл бұрын
To clarify something from the Secret Ansem Reports regarding Roxas and Namine: Both Roxas and Namine was created when Sora used the Keyblade of People's Hearts in KH1 to release his own heart along with Kairi's. Kairi's heart retuned to Kairi's body and soul while Sora's heart fell to darkness and became a Heartless. When Kairi brought Sora back, his heart, once a Heartless, transforms into Sora's human form, but he still lacked his real body and soul. Roxas and Namine has Sora's body and soul. In other words, when Sora's and Kairi's heart left Sora's body and soul, Sora's body and soul created two Nobodies, Roxas and Namine. Roxas possess half of Sora's body and soul while Namine possessed the other half of Sora's body and soul. Interesting Fact: When Roxas returned to Sora, his half of Sora's body and soul returned as well, but when Namine returned to Kairi, her half of Sora's body and soul went inside Kairi. A fact that is either forgotten or not well-known in the Kingdom Hearts community. A fact that even Nomura seems to ignore.
@ChaosPancakes
@ChaosPancakes 3 жыл бұрын
2:11 actually no. It is Ansem the Wise. Edit: Even turned into Vexen, one of the members of Org 13. Same with Ienzo.
@wesleyblackwell1035
@wesleyblackwell1035 11 ай бұрын
I'm glad somebody noticed that the pureblood heartless don't seem malicious. I noticed that even since the first game that the regular ones are hostile in a way, but they don't have that "evil" aspect to them. But the emblem heartless always seemed so much more aggressive. Even the weakest of them seemed so deliberate in what they were trying to do
@loganbednar6491
@loganbednar6491 3 жыл бұрын
You have only reached the tip of the iceberg about Roxas my friend
@thogameskanaal
@thogameskanaal 3 жыл бұрын
Heya DeeBee. Great stuff! Wish I could have attended the actual streams more often. Also, piece of advice; which you probably are already doing, but yeah, watch out for spoilers. Even googling the names of characters you already know and have seen.
@cherrymixie844
@cherrymixie844 3 жыл бұрын
I found Deebeegeek from his Genshin Videos but I subbed for Deebeegeek. 💝 It's just icing on the cake when he chose to do kingdom hearts content. ❣️❣️❣️
@killercross9929
@killercross9929 3 жыл бұрын
It’s as they say “May your heart be your guiding key”
@jorgitosilva
@jorgitosilva 3 жыл бұрын
OK as soon as I saw this come up on youtube I knew i had to leave everything aside to watch it...
@NineWhile9
@NineWhile9 3 жыл бұрын
Just have Fun . Also you have to really invest yourself into the Kingdom Hearts universe to understand it you are correct. also your Gonna Love love love birth by sleep especially if you're a completionist
@dnangel606
@dnangel606 3 жыл бұрын
He has to play Birth by Sleep to get answers that turn into more questions.
@JAG103
@JAG103 3 жыл бұрын
He was banished to the same Realm of Darkness that Sora and Riku found themselves in after Xemnas was defeated. The same Realm of Darkness Mickey was in during the entirety of the first game, as well as Riku found himself in to close the Door with Sora. The same Realm of Darkness where Xemnas told Roxas that he had been to see Sora and that he looks a lot like Roxas. Its a popular place and there's a lot we've seen of it.
@JAG103
@JAG103 3 жыл бұрын
Thats just everything thats happened in there that isn't a spoiler ;)
@ladyaimeedarcy6670
@ladyaimeedarcy6670 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I have so many theories and ideas for the next chapter of our magnificent quest! Let's do this!!!!
@kaialone
@kaialone 3 жыл бұрын
40:50 Not quite exactly. DiZ is refering to the fact that both Xehanort and Sora retained a sense of self as Heartless (remember Sora became a Shadow in KH1) There is an indirect connection though, the fact that Kairi shortly after restored Sora to a humanoid form meant that his Nobody Roxas had none of Sora's memories (as they remained with Sora's now humanoid heart), and that's why Roxas developed a sense of self seperate from Sora. In contrast, other Nobodies have the same sense of self as their original human forms i.e. Xemnas talks to Ansem the Wise just as if he was still his apprentice Xehanort. Additional thought: I think these reports suffer a bit from awkward translations in English too (the first US English translation even got the names of Ansem's apprentices wrong), and this ends up making honestly pretty simple concepts sound more difficult than they need to - but I appreciate you trying your best to understand anyway ^^
@Ethan_Wheeler
@Ethan_Wheeler 3 жыл бұрын
*One who knows nothing can understand nothing* Now he knows something so he's starting to understand something. More questions remain and I'm excited for him to dissect more lore in Birth By Sleep so that he'll gain more perspective on the past, where he's presently at and his future journey.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
Yay! Secret Report Video!
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
@Rita 25 y.o - check my vidéó I just go along with it so when it comes up again I am not as surprised. Though it’s still shocking all the same when it comes up the first time. 😂
@weirdkokiri2898
@weirdkokiri2898 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you look up the lore/story of kingdom hearts union cross at some point. You don't have to play it Deebee, just check out the story/lore of it. It'll blow your mind!
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
His community will probably have him watch it when he gets to that point in the story. Right now is a little too soon.
@SparkShiftYT
@SparkShiftYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gestrid And I think it's too late to play it at all right now.
@Gestrid
@Gestrid 3 жыл бұрын
@@SparkShiftYT The game is offline, but the app still has a theater mode, and there's plenty of videos of the story on KZbin.
@calebgoodman2076
@calebgoodman2076 3 жыл бұрын
“How long has Sora been asleep?” Less than a year actually, though it’s not stated outright. Shortly after Roxas learned those sent to Castle Oblivion were annihilated in 358/2 Days up until Roxas woke him in II.
@АннаПШЕНИЧНОВА-к5о
@АннаПШЕНИЧНОВА-к5о 3 жыл бұрын
Axel and Saix's somebodies were friends.(sorry for my english).
@susiearnold
@susiearnold 3 жыл бұрын
So Namine and Roxas are twins, that is so cute.
@jollyscotch
@jollyscotch 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ramadhanmalikassidik7556
@ramadhanmalikassidik7556 3 жыл бұрын
Even is Vexen and Ienzo is Zexion, a member of organization XIII
@nerodevil.24
@nerodevil.24 3 жыл бұрын
Namine and Roxas are essentially twins.
@rickypedia999
@rickypedia999 3 жыл бұрын
It didn't get to come up when you watched Days (it was mentioned in dialogue during gameplay) but only Emblem Heartless give out hearts that can be used to form Kingdom Hearts when defeated. Purebloods don't release any hearts. Never have, actually, even in the original game, CoM and this one. Still haven't even now, all the way up to 3. This was actually a mechanic in Days, as a Moogle shop was open to sell you items in exchange for Hearts taken from Emblem Heartless.
@TheUnknownZ990
@TheUnknownZ990 3 жыл бұрын
28:56 Or the people with Plot Armor :P
@rickypedia999
@rickypedia999 3 жыл бұрын
39:10 so basically, both Namine and Roxas were created when Sora turned into a Heartless. Roxas is based on Sora's heart and Namine is a mixture of both Sora and Kairi's. And yes, I choose to then consider Namine to be somewhere between a fusion and child of Sora and Kairi.
@darkgunnerx6350
@darkgunnerx6350 3 жыл бұрын
you should watch the video clip collection of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, for Roxa's story with the organization. An things that went on with him from the time of his birth, till his capture by Riku.
@timh.7169
@timh.7169 2 жыл бұрын
Ansem the Wise meant, that Naminé not only messed around with Soras memory, but also with people that knew him from Kingdom Hearts 1, like Leon, Yuffie, Kairi, Selphie, etc. They all say "that they remembered Sora again" in Kingdom Hearts 2
@StarBornMichael
@StarBornMichael 3 жыл бұрын
There is a fan series on Namaie.
@MC-zr6gc
@MC-zr6gc 3 жыл бұрын
Re: Roxas and Namine: Basically, (kind of....?) his first theory about Namine being created when Kairi lost her heart was wrong, she still had her body, her heart was inside Sora. Sora, not knowing how to PROPERLY do what he was trying to do when he tried to free Kairi's heart from his body, accidentally freed his own too creating Roxas, BUT because Kairi's heart left Sora (who ISN'T a pure heart of light i.e "The Princesses of Heart"), her heart reacted to leaving Sora like any non-pure heart would. By spitting out a nobody. Personally i think Namine and Roxas were both created from the body of Sora, but molded by different hearts. Kinda like twins. but not really, but still.......sorta. I know that last sentence will anger some Roxas/Namine shippers. I mean....they're both blondes. I'm just trying to figure out if Sora was running around as a Sora-shaped heartless during the 2nd half of KH1 and COM....again, kinda....sorta....?
@meliodas6942
@meliodas6942 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next kingdom hearts play through
@MyKingofdiamonds
@MyKingofdiamonds 2 жыл бұрын
“It doesn’t give you answers, it just gives you more feckin’ questions!” That’s Kingdom Hearts in a nutshell
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn
@urtoryu_dy_althraidn 10 ай бұрын
"The pure blood Heartless, when you see them in-game, they don't seem harmful" Tell that to the Invisibles, the Darkside and the Dark Thorn. They don't look harmless to me.
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