DEEP CYCLE SYSTEMS Pty Ltd [DCS] SUES ME FOR DEFAMATION

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AllOffroad 4x4

AllOffroad 4x4

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@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
This is an incredibly stressful time for me, both emotionally and financially. I honestly can’t express how much your support means to me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Please also share if you can. Please understand I can not comment on anything while this is in court.
@texazwhyte2791
@texazwhyte2791 5 ай бұрын
Go brother, dcf are reviling who they are,, there are many of who will now spread who they are and how they are acting like a bunch of twats so no more buying their product. Now, they will suffer “significant losses” because,, they now deserve it. Go mate
@iamthebroker
@iamthebroker 4 ай бұрын
Hi Stephan, it’s probably a moot point however you can arrange an insurance policy for liabilities associated with running social media platforms. No help for what’s already happened but going forward worth a thought.
@Bigboy_1978
@Bigboy_1978 4 ай бұрын
@@iamthebrokerHis big mistake is taking free goods from companies, if he had bought them on his own they wouldn’t have done nothing about it. It’s the Fist rule been a KZbinr, never expect free products from companies
@Grâce-n1d4x
@Grâce-n1d4x 6 ай бұрын
Thank you DCS, for telling us not to buy your products.
@KentWood-OptimizeUTennis
@KentWood-OptimizeUTennis 5 күн бұрын
I will never buy a DCS product because of this BS by them.
@salavatkh
@salavatkh 2 күн бұрын
If DCS reads these comments (and they should read this) - fire your PR guy and those who made this bad decision, make them guilty (as usually companies do when they want to get out of the trouble). Bring apologies to the Stefan, before it is too late for your company. And finally - make you product better - you just got rigorous testing for the cost of the product and have plenty of information what needs to be fixed, or you can choose to stay with a bad product and keep spending money on lawyers.
@Australian4x4Adventures
@Australian4x4Adventures 6 ай бұрын
We’ve got ya back mate. As another content creator. I am thankful for you standing up for our rights to have an opinion and share them online without negative recourse from a sour company. I’ve shared on my socials and will happily donate to the fight mate. Stay strong, you got this.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
sadly the only view the world has of australia is women getting choked to death en mass by the police for not wearing masks, and no george floyd protests for all the women that were killed by police, doctors and nurses with their bare hands for not wearing masks. australia and "rights" is a joke, so find it funny that they're raised here. also "rights to have an opinion" is meaningless, opinions can be defamatory, what is wrong with the world when not a single person so far can actually string a coherent sentence together. "you're charged with driving above the speed limit" "ah yeah but i'm a yoootubah and i have a right to have a car!" "... that's not what i said" i guarantee in 5 years from now, still exactly 0 people would have correctly characterized what is going on.
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
@mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 4 ай бұрын
We have your back in California!
@graemetowner7257
@graemetowner7257 6 ай бұрын
WoW...whoever is running DCS needs a career change. They give you batteries to test, get 3 years of FREE outback real world testing and massive amounts of FREE publicity from one of the most respected 4x4 experts in Australia and then stab you in the back for your real world review, which they would have considered before sending you their products. If I was running DCS I would be hiring you as a consultant to develop, test and make the best battery in the world. I can't believe this will even make it to court, happy to help your campaign and thank you Stephan for all your amazing real world reviews and content over the years.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
how does driving a car make you qualified to consult on battery development?
@dazm901
@dazm901 4 ай бұрын
@@removechan10298 Hi there DCS Troll, lol busted🤣
@Think_about_it777
@Think_about_it777 6 ай бұрын
The world has gone mad. This poor bloke is being bullied by a large corporation for offering his honest & un-biased opinion based on real life tests.
@stotty117
@stotty117 3 ай бұрын
They thort because the gave him the battery's he wouldn't tell the truth lol
@jetnavigator
@jetnavigator 6 ай бұрын
Let's get this to 4xOverland, Ronny Dahl, John Cardogan, etc. The more publicity the better.
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 6 ай бұрын
Excellent idea, the more publicity this gets, the better.
@GH-sh5kz
@GH-sh5kz 6 ай бұрын
@4xoverland
@allstatekiwi5646
@allstatekiwi5646 5 ай бұрын
4wd 24 7 and all for adventure as well
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 2 ай бұрын
Did you do it?
@LockyourHubs4WDing
@LockyourHubs4WDing 6 ай бұрын
Looks like DCS want to go down swinging..... I've had a few threaten legal action based on reviews, but nobody silly enough to actually go through with it! Surely they know this legal pontification will only further damage their brand? Anyway mate, you've got my backing, both financial and exposure to my audience. Companies that act moronically, need to be held to account, not but you and me, or even the legal system, by the most important group, the public.
@hidemyname1312-xl4of
@hidemyname1312-xl4of 6 ай бұрын
Even if it was a malicious review, suing for defamation always has an air of shutting down legitimate reviews about it.
@JaCee501
@JaCee501 5 ай бұрын
With the negative publicity DCS are now getting, I predict they’ll go out of business. The internet is forever and DCS will find that out the hard way. Their future business will tank as a result of some executive throwing a tantrum.
@boc3499
@boc3499 6 ай бұрын
DCS own goal. This will get thrown out of court if it even gets that far.
@SemperFi4evr
@SemperFi4evr 5 ай бұрын
Here from Louis Rossman, we stand with you, stay strong, and don't back down. We will be there for you.
@michaelbrayne555
@michaelbrayne555 6 ай бұрын
I have dcs batteries in a canopy not in engine bay, I recall your review being on the most part positive with the caveat that they don’t really like under bonnet heat. Like all lithium batteries. Can’t see how they think they even have half a case. Hope as a community we can raise 100% of your costs to fight this. We can’t support the suppression of honest, fact and experienced based reviews when so much of the internet is biased paid product pushing. Good luck and keep up the honest reviews
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
yeah that was the main thing, he said "they said it was ok", and the question of "kilometers v time", when it's cycles. but the review was good. thanks for communicating it well!
@keithanderson7587
@keithanderson7587 6 ай бұрын
Shame on DCS - I'll be certain not to purchase any of their products.
@jer686
@jer686 6 ай бұрын
I haven't seen your video on dcs but I was honestly just about to replace my 2 100ah batteries with a set of dcs batteries. But there is no chance I won't buy anything from a company that sues a reviewer for an honest review after they sent the product for review. This is shameful! What a horrible company!
@mattluszczak8095
@mattluszczak8095 6 ай бұрын
Make sure you write them
@richard5652
@richard5652 5 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts too.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
yeah it doesn't look good!
@baumie461
@baumie461 6 ай бұрын
WTF! You only gave your opinion on your experience of the product. If the product failed within it's advertised parameters, then that's hardly "defamatory" The fact that DCS are going down this path rather then developing their product to actually perform says a lot about the company. I'll definitely donate to your defence mate!
@HardKorr
@HardKorr 4 ай бұрын
Hey Stephan! We've just heard about your situation and want to let you know we are behind you! As another lithium battery distributor, we value the insight and feedback of our consumers and disavow our competitors trying to suppress genuine reviews; good or bad. Listening and adapting to feedback is a crucial element to the success and longevity of any business, and it's a shame to see how DCS are coming for you in this matter. Best of luck - we will be keeping up with the lawsuit!
@Xistn
@Xistn 3 ай бұрын
@hardkorr - should do a DCS discount trade in ;)
@GeoffreyCroker
@GeoffreyCroker 6 ай бұрын
So, let me get this straight. They provided units specifically for you to review, and now they’re suing you for defamation based on your review? 🤦‍♂️
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
yep
@andrewford80
@andrewford80 6 ай бұрын
What a joke. DCS's name will be mud after this plays out.
@donpaterson2397
@donpaterson2397 6 ай бұрын
Im no lawyer but that could really work in your favour.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
none of what you just said makes sense. if he'd stolen the batteries by ram raiding a servo, would that make his review any more/less defamatory?. i know what you think you're trying to say, they invited the reviews, but this is a court case, not a kangaroo court case (ya see what I did there? haha) the only bearing would be if the have stipulations in a contract, but he says no. watch the reviews, they are good
@aterritorian2536
@aterritorian2536 6 ай бұрын
I was still considering DCS (not for under bonnet), BUT Definitely won't be even considering them now, as companies that use these sort of tactics show that they do not have any credibility or concern for their customers and that their products can't stand up to scruitiny.
@Handleyman
@Handleyman 6 ай бұрын
It is not illegal in Australian law to have “an opinion”. Considering that they sent the product/s to you for your opinion knowing full well that it was destined to be aired on KZbin, I can’t see how their case would last long in the court. The fact that this particular product did not receive the praise that they were looking for is not grounds to sue you for defamation.
@je2338
@je2338 5 ай бұрын
That's not entirely correct. An opinion (also known as defence of fair comment) has to be honest which means it is "proper material” . For example, you can't simply publish "in my opinion product a is a fire risk" when you have no evidence or reason to state that. Your opinions must be honest and backed by some degree of research and fact.
@Handleyman
@Handleyman 4 ай бұрын
@@je2338 I didn’t know that. I stand corrected! Cheers.
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 6 ай бұрын
I didn't see the reviews but based on the actions of DCS in taking you to court, I would now NEVER consider buying one of their products and would never recommend them as a decent or ethical company. Perhaps they should have looked up the 'Streisand effect' before launching into this nonsense. Made a small donation, hope you get plenty of support and get this nonsense thrown out of court. It is nothing but a 'slap down' lawsuit.
@Assidprone
@Assidprone 6 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Exactly what I was thinking. Good on ya for calling them out by their name.
@Think_about_it777
@Think_about_it777 6 ай бұрын
Boycott their shit everyone. Their conduct is un-Australian.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
"I didn't see the reviews", what if he had said something defamatory in the review? do you think that's impossible? or do you think any company suing anyone means you wouldn't buy from them? do you understand how the world works? watch the review, it's good.
@wadehughes8986
@wadehughes8986 6 ай бұрын
After seeing the clip from Fraser Island where the owner of DCS blatantly damaged the sand dunes on purpose. I knew he was a tosser. This just proves it.
@MountainGoat9
@MountainGoat9 6 ай бұрын
I have DCS battery in my Prado and so far it has worked well for me but I definitely won't be buying another one and will be discouraging others from buying their products now. Hopefully it all goes well for you Stefan, you really don't need all that stress. BTW I have enjoyed your channel, please don't give up, we need people like you who provide their honest opinion. Donated.
@Steve-ul8qb
@Steve-ul8qb 6 ай бұрын
This action on DCS behalf will do 100 times the damage to their brand. DCS, you better pull these charges, it will destroy your business in Australia. It is a small community and word of mouth spreads quickly. For example, I have never watched this channel before, let alone subscribed, and the algorithm had it at the top of my page when i opened KZbin this morning. I will not be using your products based on your treatment of AllOffroad.
@brettfullarton7744
@brettfullarton7744 6 ай бұрын
Have seen your videos over the years & always found you to come across a very honest person. I have been looking at going the lithium cranking battery route & DCS Extreme batteries were one of my two options I was looking at. I can honestly say that after this (& also some heavy-handed "marketing" from one of their sales reps/distributors) they will NOT be getting my business. To clarify that's not due to your badmouthing them but due to the way they are choosing to treat a customer like yourself, providing honest feedback on a product, as you should be free to do so
@AndrewHartney
@AndrewHartney 6 ай бұрын
Stefan as someone who has watched your videos from your early days, you are one of the most trusted/honest people making content. I will use the example of your mapping software videos. DCS, you only need to look on the 200 forums to get a feel for the product and more worryingly the company. Happy to donate. I would be thinking about an avid 4WD'er who's day job is legal council who may consider pro-bono work also..... can't hurt to ask the question....
@SomervilleMetalWorks
@SomervilleMetalWorks 6 ай бұрын
What a shit thing to do. I bought my dcs back in 2020 partially based on your early videos. So you made money for them too. However after their stunt on Fraser Island I lost all respect for them as business and people. Having seen my feeling well proven in this instance doesn't make me feel better. I will help you out as much as i can at the moment. Keep up the great work Stephan
@jamesmcmillan2656
@jamesmcmillan2656 6 ай бұрын
Chucked in $50. Good luck mate.
@pabichpawel
@pabichpawel 6 ай бұрын
You might want to have a chat with John Cadogan. I’m pretty sure he has experienced something like that before.
@Hillzy_Eighty7
@Hillzy_Eighty7 4 ай бұрын
Hes done a video on this disaster
@Corey-pd3mi
@Corey-pd3mi 6 ай бұрын
These companies sending product to KZbinrs are not interested in what you think of the product, they’re interested in you promoting the product, that’s it. It’s cheap advertising for them. If a product does not meet your expectations or perform as advertised best to simply say I didn’t like it so returned the product, or say nothing at all. There cannot be honesty in this game, they don’t want that.
@broccattley8919
@broccattley8919 6 ай бұрын
But the public deserves to know what a product is really like and most people have worked hard to afford what they believe is a high end product, for someone that has honest respect to just hand a bad product back and say nothing will only encourage the smoke and mirrors isues that run riot in this industry.
@CityPrepping
@CityPrepping 6 ай бұрын
This will not go well for them trying to shut you down. Stand your ground and speak the truth.
@dylantaylor8931
@dylantaylor8931 5 ай бұрын
Mate. I support you in this! I will ensure none of my friends, family or customers will be doing business with a company that tried to bullies good honest people. I always loved your reviews and your no bullshit reports of your 100 series build, please keep that up and don’t let this put you off content creating.
@stevegoodwin5841
@stevegoodwin5841 6 ай бұрын
Done. Your reviews are always honest opinions backed by observations and truthfullness and you will win this case and get costs awarded to you from DCS. DCS are gone, gone, gone here in Australia Stephan, they may as well pack their bags now. You have thousands of backers in KZbin land. I hope some other KZbinr presenters kick in to assist themselves in their future too.
@NeilMcAliece
@NeilMcAliece 6 ай бұрын
Odd move by a company. Plenty of companies seek out reviews for exposure but they can't expect them to be the same as advertising. Cutting off a channel's access to review products is one thing (and also not a good look), but a defamation lawsuit is a whole other level. In my opinion going down this route was an amazing act of self harm on their part.
@kingjnr2677
@kingjnr2677 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest review, if they didn’t want this they should never have supplied you with there product. Chipped in towards your legal expenses mate as a way of supporting you and the channel!👍🏻👌🏻
@Magnus357
@Magnus357 6 ай бұрын
I’m not active in overlanding but your review of the Ecoflow Glacier - and your follow up review on the thermistor issues which are real and with further investigation appear likely to affect every unit drove me away from that purchase. I dropped a small $20 donation as I hate shill reviews of any product. Best of luck and hopefully you can recover most/all cost when you win as allowed by Australian law. I’m unfortunately familiar with defending bullshit civil cases. The US isn’t a loser pays system, so I was out $20k. Even if you do recover, the stress is terrible. Keep up the good fight and kudos to you for not giving in to their scare tactic demands (I bet they wanted a public retraction).
@whi55l1
@whi55l1 6 ай бұрын
Im sorry to hear. After being sued in tthe District court for another type of legal issue, I can vouch for the legal costs involved including barrister and expert opinion. I wish you luck and hopefully they're just trying to scare and bluff you (like it was in my instance). My only advice would be to try and understand what the other party wants early on in the proceedings before your legals fee's start to add up.
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
It's already in court cant say much else atm but their demands where not something I was willing to do
@mickkidston7344
@mickkidston7344 5 ай бұрын
louis rossman sent me here, you have the backing of millions of consumer rights advocates now
@robdotcom71
@robdotcom71 6 ай бұрын
That's absolute bonkers Stefan..... any company providing a reviewer a product of theirs to test and review does not entitle them a dishonest review. If the product turns out to be shit.... you can't put lipstick on a pig..... it's still a pig. I hope you've shared this video far and wide. And I hope some of the other youtubers are also aware of this....
@aussiegruber86
@aussiegruber86 4 ай бұрын
Find the review that the Australian government did on a heap of batteries and DCS actually performed the worse.
@hennohimself
@hennohimself 6 ай бұрын
DCS are going to Streisand Effect themselves with this move.
@crewzincool
@crewzincool 6 ай бұрын
Yeah Need to keep the honesty on KZbin. Hope the donation helps 👍🏻
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
Legend!
@nathanhickeyhickey8693
@nathanhickeyhickey8693 6 ай бұрын
All Companies such as this should except product performance based feedback of any kind , via review or personal comment, its a consumer right. Woolworths cannot sue you for not enjoying their new range of biscuits if you didn't like the taste .. Stefan you're a decent & generous human.
@RoamingDesertDweller
@RoamingDesertDweller 6 ай бұрын
👇 Click the thumbs up button if youll never be buying DCS products
@AmpieAnk
@AmpieAnk 5 ай бұрын
Louis Rossman has your back as well mate...keep at it and don't let the bullies win! Good luck out there and keep pushing back against those that choose the evil path over the good.
@vk3crg
@vk3crg 4 ай бұрын
This will backfire on them I'm guessing. By doing this they have defamed themselves in the eyes of potential customers far more than anyone else ever could in a KZbin video. If they disagree with your review, they maybe should have contacted you and supplied another battery to test or try. They could have offered someone from the company come on your channel and explain their point of view etc. We are not the US and Australians won't take too kindly to the "just sue them" mentality. All they had to do was reach out and treat this as an opportunity rather than an attack and they'd have come out of this looking so much better.
@ianchandler4457
@ianchandler4457 6 ай бұрын
Well DCS you have lost any interest that I had in your products, and I will be suggesting that to all my 4WD and camping friends
@maitrikashin3906
@maitrikashin3906 5 ай бұрын
I have watched your videos for years. I have always found you to be an authentic, honest, genuine, experienced, interesting, balanced and articulate advocate for safe and ethical 4WD exploration in remote Australia. Those qualities are what make your equipment reviews and recommendations so appreciated by the wider overlanding public. If the company involved in this legal action wanted some good PR... they seem to have lost their ethical GPS. They seem to have embarked on the most perilous track, the worst route imaginable. An open, flexible and consumer-responsive company keen to improve their product/service, might have taken a very different approach to your review feedback. They might have welcomed your perspective and found a way to improve. I wish their company well in the future, but I hope they have recovery gear on board, because they will need it. Respect and trust are so hard to get, so easy to lose.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 4 ай бұрын
please go to court as a character witness, that was beautiful
@druspork7737
@druspork7737 6 ай бұрын
All the best Stefan. I have always had difficulties being a Patreon supporter as if I add them all (my channel interests) up it is prohibitive. I'm also retired and not a lot of funds to spare. That said, I'll be contributing here somewhere within my means. Might be time to join your patreon.
@Fomites
@Fomites 4 ай бұрын
Stefan - you have a lot of support right across the Internet and have become famous almost overnight :-) This issue has spread to other countries now and DCS cannot win. All the best for your honesty. You will ultimately be better off when this is over.
@IanDonkin
@IanDonkin 6 ай бұрын
I certainly appreciate your honest reviews and commend you for taking this on. All the best with it mate.
@Big_Mafuta
@Big_Mafuta 6 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your honesty when reviewing products and even after the dcs review would have still considered buying it for inside my canopy setup. After the actions of dcs I will no longer support or recommend them to anyone. Donation made.
@1Coolbanana
@1Coolbanana 6 ай бұрын
Wow, didnt they turn out to be not only crooks but nasty. I love how much BAD publicity this will give them and all of their own doing.
@dudless13
@dudless13 6 ай бұрын
Stefan - appears DCS want the publicity and promotion but don't like reviews that aren't in their favour. Welcome to the real world. Keep up the great work on your channel. Donation made, hope every little bit makes it a bit easier for you. And I like your intention to support RFDS with any excess funds - integrity ! Cheers John
@neil5211
@neil5211 6 ай бұрын
I have always appreciated your honest and unbiased reviews. (I almost bought a DCS system after your initial review. On the basis of their bad behaviour towards you, I'm really glad I didn't)
@steeevo0136
@steeevo0136 6 ай бұрын
My tip : this is just an intimidation tactic and DCS is counting on you to be frightened. The last thing they want is for this to get to court.
@stevegoodwin5841
@stevegoodwin5841 6 ай бұрын
In 24 hrs you will reach your target I reckon, all the best Stephan.
@cafts1
@cafts1 6 ай бұрын
Totally wrong approach by them. Donated and fully support you and your channel.
@joashk2818
@joashk2818 4 ай бұрын
As far as i know a company in Australia, or under australian law with 10 or more employees cannot sue for defamtion or slander under any circumstance, otherwise every company would do it. Its the reason why you only generally see individuals sueing for defamation. I would say to them go for your life and good luck..
@JulietHotelFoxtrot
@JulietHotelFoxtrot 6 ай бұрын
Never heard of your channel before, for some reason it was recommended, but if you're getting sued, that's pretty good indication I can trust your reviews. That's the sad state of product reviews in the 4WD world these days. Everything is a paid promotion, a product placement, pay to play, and obviously when these companies don't get what they want, they try to quash this.
@NathanNostaw
@NathanNostaw 6 ай бұрын
How is it possible to Claim deformation when a company sends a product for review? Is this court case going to decide if reviews can be honest or, if they must always favour the product supplier? What an odd direction for a company to take. Surely pursuing a deformation case (rather than addressing feedback) will only lose them even more sales. I missed the battery review video, and I may not be the only one, but we all now know about this case. They have ensured more people know about the issue. Fools.
@fishernick2447
@fishernick2447 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@patricksquires77
@patricksquires77 4 ай бұрын
Oh no! Other KZbinrs seem to have also acquired DCS batteries for review! 😬
@tng200
@tng200 6 ай бұрын
Have always appreciated your content and fair reviews Stefan. You got me out of my complacency to become a Patreon and also flicked in the fund me. All the best.
@SupraSav
@SupraSav 5 ай бұрын
Hope everything works out. Appreciate honest YTers that do their best to help save the money of regular folks. Hope you can countersue! Louis Rossman brought me here
@sidbabab1749
@sidbabab1749 6 ай бұрын
I am not a long time follower but I have seen some of your videos and found great content in them. We all understand what you’re going through and how you feel. Everything will turn alright mate. I’ve done small donation. Hope that helps and wish all goes well for you.
@Simon-tg7jg
@Simon-tg7jg 6 ай бұрын
Shocking - donation pledged. Cheers mate
@jamiegarton1967
@jamiegarton1967 6 ай бұрын
This is such a really important point in freedom of review without backlash, I hope other content providers get on board and spread the word.
@DuncanMargetts
@DuncanMargetts 6 ай бұрын
Doe DCS employ more than 10ppl.. surely they arent a protected corporation and cant sue for defamation under Australian law?
@_bodgie
@_bodgie 6 ай бұрын
They must be small enough otherwise they'd have issues I'd expect.
@angeloudy
@angeloudy 6 ай бұрын
Wow, didn't know DCS is such a small company.
@Magnus357
@Magnus357 6 ай бұрын
@@_bodgie Looking at their webpage (which I think they either just took down or due to being viewed so many time is now offline) their batteries and "Designed and Developed" in Australia. They are likely just Chinese batteries being built to DCS's specifications. I cannot confirm they are made in China, but there is no information given on country of origin that I could find and China is the largest source of lithium chemistry batteries in the world. How that works in reality, is that they pick and choose from options a manufacturer has available and they make an order. Doesn't take a large number of people to run a small warehouse and shipping department.
@_bodgie
@_bodgie 6 ай бұрын
@@Magnus357 100%. They sell a battery wall which is apparently made in China, so I'd suspect most of their stuff is made in China.
@dodgyass11
@dodgyass11 6 ай бұрын
Its not defamation if its true
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
yes but up to me to prove in court unfortunately
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen
@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen 6 ай бұрын
They know that but companies enter into these slap down lawsuits in an attempt to shut people up.
@cyclemoto8744
@cyclemoto8744 6 ай бұрын
There are still costs involved to defend the allegation and the risk of losing cannot be dismissed until the final ruling.
@Think_about_it777
@Think_about_it777 6 ай бұрын
Being honest is not defamatory. What knuckleheads, boycott their shit.
@stevowyeth
@stevowyeth 6 ай бұрын
@@AlloffroadAuit’s a crazy system isn’t it. They should have to prove their claim first, only then should you have to go to the cost and effort to defend those claims.
@MickBurns-ev1nn
@MickBurns-ev1nn 6 ай бұрын
I had a problem with my DCS battery when it was about a month before warranty ran out last year. That could not have been more helpful. They paid freight to take it back interstate and sent me a brand new battery free of charge. Battery had been under bonnet the whole time and they knew that. Very good communication and contacted after they replaced it to see if I was happy. Had another mate with similar experience. Don’t understand why they gave you a hard time.
@Assidprone
@Assidprone 6 ай бұрын
Topped up with 50 buck mate. Best of luck and teach these clowns a lesson.
@iamrodos
@iamrodos 6 ай бұрын
Have always appreciated your honest reviews and advice made with the best of intention. Unfortunate you have ended up in this situation. Donation made!
@davidhowell5945
@davidhowell5945 6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear Stefan and extremely bad form from DCS. They will never get any more of my business. My contribution to your fund is on the way.
@northislandguy
@northislandguy 6 ай бұрын
Remember when DCS drove on sensitive sand dunes on Frasier Island?? Claiming they had to “escape” They managed to get their stuff up videos deleted Robert Pepper L2S FBC did a nice report on that 😂
@OnCountryWithMick
@OnCountryWithMick 6 ай бұрын
Best of luck with this mate. We should all be free to speak our minds on things especially products. There are way too many influencers out there pushing rubbish products because they are paid to do so and do so with no honour or integrity. I personally always try to speak the truth about products and so should we all so good on you for doing so.
@TrevorVanDerLinden
@TrevorVanDerLinden 5 ай бұрын
I find this almost unbelievable and wonder about some of the other things this company is doing. I am writting to the ACCC asking them to look into their business practises. For example their warranties and what Luis Rossman uncovered about them.
@burbs-to-bush-redbakadventures
@burbs-to-bush-redbakadventures 4 ай бұрын
Ive been watching your channel for the past 4 years and honestly appreciate all your reviews as many others that give their opinions on the products they use, I'll definitely support you as your channel has helped me make the right descisions when purchasing through your reviews,
@christurner68
@christurner68 6 ай бұрын
Just represent yourself, if the product was not up to scratch and the suppport was not there and you have all the facts then you should be ok.
@AlloffroadAu
@AlloffroadAu 6 ай бұрын
above my pay grade going to court in QLD and not my mother tongue
@sueneilson896
@sueneilson896 6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but defamation litigation is not a diy proposition .
@christurner68
@christurner68 6 ай бұрын
@@sueneilson896 you must be a lawyer?
@_bodgie
@_bodgie 6 ай бұрын
@@christurner68 Probably not, but it's good advice.
@sueneilson896
@sueneilson896 6 ай бұрын
@@christurner68 … not a lawyer, but have personally had experience with defamation proceedings. There is a lot of bluff involved, and a good lawyer is needed to guide through it. Money well spent if it keeps you out of Supreme court.
@michaelnugara1
@michaelnugara1 6 ай бұрын
You have my donation Stefan as the outcome will impact all consumers. Best of luck.
@cyclemoto8744
@cyclemoto8744 6 ай бұрын
Hi Stefan, to contribute to your defense I am now subscribed to your Patreaon Adventurer membership for at least 1 year. Wishing you the best of luck, courage, fortitude and strength with what's to come. Cheers
@airbats801
@airbats801 6 ай бұрын
modern society at work. I hope you get through this stephan
@paulharrison8114
@paulharrison8114 6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that Stephan. Donation made. Good luck.
@TigDegner
@TigDegner 5 ай бұрын
Just found this via Louis Rossman. Stay strong and keep up the good work.
@newyboys
@newyboys 6 ай бұрын
WITHOUT HONESTY ...were would we be..😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@R.Sole88109
@R.Sole88109 6 ай бұрын
In Parliament!.😐
@Alaster-
@Alaster- 6 ай бұрын
In Wheels/Motor magazines
@scottroygbiv
@scottroygbiv 6 ай бұрын
Mate I feel for ya. Gone are the days people are allowed to have an opinion. As if the company wouldnt just review your concerns and try and make thier product better. Keep on doing what your doing.
@chrisdardis4794
@chrisdardis4794 6 ай бұрын
I hate bully tactics, Stephan. Donated 👍
@intrusivethought
@intrusivethought 6 ай бұрын
That’s just incredible.
@Steve-ul8qb
@Steve-ul8qb 6 ай бұрын
Where is the review video? I’ve been looking but cannot find it.
@survivalauMT
@survivalauMT 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous. DCS you can absolutely guarantee this lawsuit while being frivolous, is also going to do way more damage to your reputation than any sort of negative review. Absolutely tone deaf way to handle a negative review.
@visualjon
@visualjon 6 ай бұрын
100% agree, I'll never buy any of their products now. Shot themselves in the foot big time.
@peterparker-fc1sb
@peterparker-fc1sb 6 ай бұрын
I had a lithium bat from a mob in WA , lasted 3 starts . At least they reimbursed me. That's pure bullshit.
@Drtyandy
@Drtyandy 6 ай бұрын
Just heard about you from Reddit this is absolutely disgusting that a company is doing this because of an honest review
@BennettBenson
@BennettBenson 5 ай бұрын
Stephan Fischer - Thank you for standing up to bullies.
@KentWood-OptimizeUTennis
@KentWood-OptimizeUTennis 5 күн бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel because of all this. DCS will lose so much consumer support for their narrow-sided knee jerk stupidity. I am proud of you for standing your ground and being honest.
@petermeah
@petermeah 6 ай бұрын
Hope this backfires you win and get costs awarded to you . Sounds like some egos have been tarnished and they are hoping to scapegoat ya. YT is nothing without people like you. Your clearly a credible person and I would like to say the truth wins but it often seems whoever can afford the best representation gets there way sorry mate to hear your dealing with this. Don’t spare the horse’s it will be worth it in the long run. Make em cough. I remember when you posted originally and was glad to see that you were helping to inform and caution those that just thought they could just pop these under the bonnet like a regular battery.
@anthonywr
@anthonywr 6 ай бұрын
WTF are they kidding! what a c#@t move by DCS. They should spend less on lawers and more on product developement and quality.
@thommyrubin1866
@thommyrubin1866 5 ай бұрын
Hi I found your channel through Lois Rossmann. I now subscribed to your channel and I do hope this matter get out on a wide scale on YT. DCS must face the consequences. Show what DCS is really about.
@hidemyname1312-xl4of
@hidemyname1312-xl4of 6 ай бұрын
DCS isn't that the same scummy company that had one of their vehicles filmed driving along the dunes at high tide to race to the barge on K'gari (Fraser island)? Then went nuclear on anyone calling them out?
@darshparmar7679
@darshparmar7679 6 ай бұрын
I wonder if DCS lack of sales might be due to their 120ah battery for $1495,in a time of record inflation an interest rates im just happy my agm batt is still going.
@Adam-ox6zy
@Adam-ox6zy 4 ай бұрын
I hope DCS or its owners get slapped with being a vexatious litigant, after the judge laughs them out of court. Subscribed. Thanks to DCS suit I found your channel! Good work DCS 😂
@4x4EastCoast
@4x4EastCoast 6 ай бұрын
Hey mate, I hope you give em hell in court. I just donated a months ad revenue to your cause. We can't be bullied.
@livingworkingoutsidebox
@livingworkingoutsidebox 6 ай бұрын
Joined your patreon. 👍 Best of luck. It's sad that some business expect super reviews for mediocre products or services. Instead of taking it as an opportunity to improve. Hopefully you will also decide to counter sue. Not for the potential monetary gain. To show them and other companies with similar business practices, that its just not cost effective to try to silence content creators for reviews that aren't as good as expected. Hopefully your legal team will help you update your sponsorship contract as well.
@mountainconstructions
@mountainconstructions 6 ай бұрын
Very Rude Will 100% not be dealing with DCS now and telling all my friends to avoid
@HammerRocks
@HammerRocks 6 ай бұрын
Good luck and wishing you all the very best with this.
@Bigcountry_littlelegs
@Bigcountry_littlelegs 6 ай бұрын
Donated and keep up the good fight mate
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