Deep Dive Into Taylor Swift & Joe Alwyn (Lyrical Analysis)

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Reputation
04:28 - Lover
06:31 - Folklore
08:08 - Evermore
08:31 - Midnights
12:44 - Conclusion

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@claudiabcarvalho
@claudiabcarvalho Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked you didn't mentioned "You're On Your Own Kid". I was listening to it the other day, and the conclusion basically is: boys will pass by, people will pass by, but she'll be ok because she went through a lot of things and survived. Taylor mentions her closest friends and her accomplishments as things that make it all worth it. People assumed that "something they can't take away" was her love for Joe, but it's actually her talent and her resilience.
@brooklynmills9793
@brooklynmills9793 10 ай бұрын
I always thought the “something they can’t take away” was us - her fans
@npats550
@npats550 10 ай бұрын
I interpreted it as the conclusion of one of her other songs, "Out of the woods". "She lost him but found herself. And somehow that was everything ".
@npats550
@npats550 10 ай бұрын
As in they can't take away herself. As a person, as an artist, as a business woman, but mostly her as who she is.
@stink..
@stink.. 4 ай бұрын
I always thought that “saw something they can’t take away” was related to her resilience lmao wild people see it as related to joe
@talliejewls
@talliejewls Жыл бұрын
I love this deep dive! I personally thought Bejeweled was TOTALLY a break up song when I first listened to it. I feel like it is a song hyping her up, reminding her she is the shiii ☺️ “I miss you, but I miss sparkling ✨ “
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And I agree. Bejewelled has such strong "just broke up and I'm going out" vibes.
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Жыл бұрын
I felt like that too! And it didn’t seem like a Calvin thing; becaus e when she was with Calvin she was the worlds bigger pop start there was no lack of sparkling !
@alexlefay
@alexlefay Жыл бұрын
And we all thought it was about Calvin at first 🤡🤡🤡
@SandraGrauschopf
@SandraGrauschopf Жыл бұрын
The first time I heard Bejeweled, I immediately Googled to see if I'd missed a breakup. Shortly after, the news broke.
@parisrobinson-lecky7554
@parisrobinson-lecky7554 Жыл бұрын
I still think it’s about Harry Styles, only because the band asks does she have a man and she says I don’t remember since this is a breakup song, however in out of the woods and question she says I remember which is the phrase used to link different Harry styles inspired songs together. So considering how big one direction was when they dated and he was nearly becoming a bigger star than she was as 1989 has not yet been released, bejewelled is about putting herself first, and how many men has she dated that she could call “baby boy” as he was 5 years younger.
@corneliastreet2491
@corneliastreet2491 Жыл бұрын
Here’s my hot take: Before Joe, very very few of Taylor’s songs expressed a desire for privacy (The Lucky One and I know Places are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head), and once she met him almost ALL her love songs included some aspect of privacy or secrecy. I think Taylor grew to learn that she feels more comfortable in a relationship that’s not as available to the media and her fans, but I think Joe was the one who was really pushing for it when she hadn’t often expressed that desire before. I think she liked the idea of a private relationship, but Joe wanted a private LIFE and Taylor didn’t want and couldn’t have that. She says it clearly in mirrorball, she’ll do anything to keep people looking at her. She keeps reinventing herself and worrying about being stale and nobody will listen to her music, like she expresses in Nothing New which she CHOSE to include on the re-release even though there were many more songs she could have chosen or she could have made the album shorter. So imo that shows that those feelings still ring true with her. In anti-hero she talks about it, she’s insecure and speaks from the perspective of her fans, but she doesn’t wish she wasn’t in the public eye. The entirety of YOYOK is about how she gave up security because she wanted to pursue her dream and be that person that people talk about and make the art that is enjoyed by so many people. She doesn’t want to stay home in the basement, she wants to GO OUT and shimmer like she says in Bejeweled. She doesn’t want the constant criticism of her relationships and she doesn’t want the men she dates to be trapped in that fishbowl with her, but she herself enjoys performing and finds it fulfilling and expresses that constantly. In Long Live, she celebrates how wild the crowds get. In an interview, she said she loves All Too Well and Champagne Problems because they’re sad songs but the fans make it feel like a moment of excitement and connection. In The Man she celebrates her accomplishments and wishes she were MORE successful and says she would be if she didn’t meet those limitations and pushbacks. In. this is why we can’t have nice things, she explicitly says she loved the parties, the being surrounded by people, the exposure. Even in her fiction, take a song like Dorothea and look at it closely. The narrator is reminiscing, do you remember this, I wonder what it would be like, but Dorothea still makes the choice to be in the public eye and flourish there. What happened when they started the relationship? They were firmly in his corner, cut off. Taylor disappear and from the world for that long period of time. Then Reputation came out and critics and people online said they hated it and it was not a publicly successful time for her (except for her die-hard fans, some of which didn’t like the album at first either). Then lover came out and even more people were critical of that, there was even less publicity and even more criticism. She was nowhere near where she had previously been in the public eye. Then the pandemic came and they were alone together for years. She did some re-recordings, which made a splash but also they’re not brand new so it’s STILL not the same level of fame she had in all those previous relationships, still not the same amount of scrutiny. It wasn’t until Midnights was released and a tour was in the works that I think they realized just how massively successful she is and what that really meant for them. It’s great for her, it’s amazing, it makes her happy, but it was never what he wanted. I thought it was odd to describe it as a “love blackout” meaning every other part of her life got pushed aside for him. That’s not sustainable. It’s romantic, but not sustainable. Before, like she says in Willow, she let him “wreck her plans”, but she needs to be able to pursue her dreams and feel fulfilled in her career, she can’t keep putting that part of herself on the back burner to please him. So they can’t both be satisfied by that arrangement, either way one is holding the other back or forcing the other into an uncomfortable situation. It also means a lot of time apart, when they’ve been isolated together for so long. That’s hard on ANY relationship. In the end, she said it herself, and it’s the one question that always stuck in my mind because in all the years she was with Joe it was never resolved. She cries out “I don’t want to keep secrets just to keep you.” That always nagged at me, just a little bit. Because she constantly writes about them keeping secrets between them, but she was so distressed about having to keep their relationship secret that she put it in a song. Also, as I’ve been saying for years, and it’s one of the reasons I love her so much and relate to her songs so much, she has always been plagued with fear and insecurity in her relationships. Even in her relationships, her happiest moments, she’s fearing things will crumble. In my favorite song, she asks “would it be enough if I could never give you peace” and in dancing with our hands tied she says “there was no one in the world who could take it” and in long story short, the peak happy time for her and Joe, she still sings “Past me…” as in, once we break up. It’s not just a Joe thing either. In Wildest dreams she thinks the person is going to break up with her, he hasn’t broken up with her yet, but she writes an entire song about “well, when you do break up with me…” In Begin Again, or The Way I Loved You, she’s having a lovely date with someone but still thinking about all the things that went wrong in the past. She has this mentality of people looking back on the relationship and only appreciating her afterwards. Like in a white horse, in long story short, with the rear view mirror, in the archer, I bet you think about me, the end of ATWTMV, tolerate it. She’s always anticipating the break-up, even in the best parts of the relationship, she’s waiting for the other shoe to drop. “If the shoe fits, walk in it, til your high heels break.” She goes as far as to threaten to leave because she feels under appreciated and she wants that validation (tolerate it, bejeweled, gorgeous, false god). Finally: on the topic of marriage. We all know the recent Taylor’s take on the whole thing. In Midnight Rain she says she doesn’t want to be a bride, she is making her own name. In Anti-Hero, she’s afraid of growing old and having kids. She says herself in Lavender Haze that everyone keeps asking her if she’s going to marry joe, and she seems to be put off by the idea that everyone wants her to get married. Except, she was the FIRST one to bring it up. In Lover, she references classic wedding vows in the bridge. Paper rings she explicitly says “I’d marry you with paper rings”. In Its Nice to Have a Friend she plays literal church bells and talks about “rice on the ground” and carrying her over the threshold which are common wedding things. She brought it up, she seemed to be completely on board. In peace she says “I’d give you my wild, give you a child.” So what put her off that idea? Is it that she doesn’t want to get married? Or is it that he is the wrong person? Or is it that her idea of what a marriage looks like is different to his idea, where he wants to stay local and be private and have children and raise them privately, whereas she wants a committed relationship with a degree of privacy but she also LOVES her lifestyle of being able to go where she wants and make the music she wants and tour the world when she wants, and Joe doesn’t want to be the husband who goes with her and basks in that spotlight. He doesn’t want to be the person who cancels his plans to come to her award show, or gush about her in an interview and how proud he is and how talented she is (which she does for him, but he prefers to say absolutely nothing most of the time because he wants total privacy). Tl;dr - She enjoyed a private relationship, but wanted a public career. He needed a completely private life. Also, even when things are good she is anticipating the end. It’s a self/sabotaging, self-fulfilling prophecy..
@feelslikegold09
@feelslikegold09 Жыл бұрын
holy hell this is the most well written and thought out analysis I’ve read so far. I’ve said Midnights is a breakup album from the moment it was released and she left so many clues in her previous work.
@saimallow
@saimallow Жыл бұрын
I actually just read this comment and paused the video and now I think I don’t need to watch the video anymore. Hahahah as an OG swiftie since 2007, this definitely definitely makes so so much sense
@Reyna_issance
@Reyna_issance Жыл бұрын
Im so glad i took time to read this whole thing because it really put everything into perspective for me and finally the break up makes so much sense. So thank you
@Karuna_Rose
@Karuna_Rose Жыл бұрын
This is the most accurate analysis I've seen thus far. I feel like everything is right there in her lyrics.
@HelloBombshell21
@HelloBombshell21 Жыл бұрын
I AGREE
@brookemckinley5709
@brookemckinley5709 Жыл бұрын
Finally somebody’s talking about her music and NOT just rumors. Taylor tells us what she wants us to know thru her songs. RESPECT HER!!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
🙌🙌
@miabrv614
@miabrv614 Жыл бұрын
I too refused to listen to rumors until she made her statement. She just did now with you're losing me... and I still can t believe it's over.
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons midnights is vague is because she was sorting out her feelings : that’s why it’s hard to pinpoint some of the songs
@yuliabond3729
@yuliabond3729 Жыл бұрын
Thats because she did what muse did with their album will of the people, midnights is an album that references her prevous albums all the time and this is why the tour is called eras tour, this is an era about the past eras.
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Жыл бұрын
@@yuliabond3729 that wouldn’t mean the album had to be vague and not as deep lyrically
@beccac6812
@beccac6812 Жыл бұрын
@@yuliabond3729 if it was about the past eras wouldn’t that make it more specific not less
@MochaChino-ww5xx
@MochaChino-ww5xx Жыл бұрын
Also!! On the song Cornelia street she has the lyric: a new page on my desk (referring to their love) and in Lavender Haze, she has the lyric “get it off your chest, GET IT OFF MY DESK” do with that information as you please!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Great find! I never picked up on that parallel but I think you're onto something 😶
@wolfgangromine8341
@wolfgangromine8341 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis. I never really realized how much of midnights references Joe in past tense, it’s really telling. Yeah I also think Joe was a form of escapism for Taylor, and they simply grew apart or she didn’t need that anymore. Also she just said in her eras concert last night that right now she’s “the happiest she’s ever been” and that “her life finally makes sense”. Really puts a different spin on how she felt with Joe if she’s saying that now.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
It was definitely a shock to hear her say that, but I think it kind of supports what I was thinking before.
@Jalleur14325
@Jalleur14325 11 ай бұрын
Well, she could also be saying that just to save face. No one wants to admit they are a crumpled heap after a break up (which she does in Dear Reader).
@xoxdesire
@xoxdesire 10 ай бұрын
@@Jalleur14325 Yes. Also, if she was to say she's sad some of her stans will probably attack Joe even more. I think she is happy bc she loves her fans and touring and it's been so long.
@ncamara670
@ncamara670 9 ай бұрын
​​@@xoxdesireYeah, it is sad that some people can't simply enjoy the music without harassing those in her circle. I listened to Midnights and to me there is a story of a troubled relationship where a woman feels that her partner has gotten a little too comfortable and uncaring. She still loves him but wants him to wake up so she decides to teach him a lesson. Sometimes that can mean putting a distance between them to create some breathing space.
@xoxdesire
@xoxdesire 9 ай бұрын
@@ncamara670 Yeah some stans of celebs go way too far. It's crazy and true! She said they were inspired by past relationships so I didn't really look into it but some songs now hit different lol. I was hoping if they took time apart they would eventually get back together but since she was seen with Matty so soon after I don't think that will happen. She just seemed so happy. Reputation is her "Dark era" but it's such a sweet album about her falling for Joe. It has a few revenge songs for Kanye but it's mostly really sweet then ofc Lover. She had a lot of fun that era and was happy. It was a love letter to Joe. Im sad covid canceled Lover Fest but at least we got folklore and evermore. I wonder when they started to have problems bc even on Anti Hero she says says how she's scared he'll leave from her scheming and life will lost all it's meaning.
@creditsong7369
@creditsong7369 Жыл бұрын
You put into words what I've been trying to explain to people for so long! The whole song "Sweet Nothings" has so many new layers of meaning to me now, but people are like "no, it's just a love song" like you don't understand! He said "what a mind" and it happens all the time!!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
100%. Even when Midnights came out, I thought Sweet Nothing was weirdly nihilistic and depressing. I wanted to make a video on it then, but everyone else thought it was so romantic and I was like "I'm gonna get so much hate if I make a video saying the song isn't wholesome and cute"
@Raelven
@Raelven Жыл бұрын
Right, @credit song like "it happens all the time" to me, is her saying, "This is my brain. It writes. Constantly. Everything is a potential song. Get used to it." BUT also saying, "Everyone makes a big deal out of it, out of my seeing life as a series of songs. Get used to it." And, " what a mind" can be reverent appreciation, or sarcasm. She is a master of the double entendre.
@laurabolanos9712
@laurabolanos9712 Жыл бұрын
I have to go back and re-listen to this one a lot I think, because when I first heard it, it definitely came to me differently interpretation wise. I was also one of those lunatic conspiracy theorists that believed that Taylor and Joe actually already have a baby because they had been married since the lover era 🙈🥹😭 this song is the ONLY song that they collaborated with together, it’s just the two of them. When it starts, it sounds like a straight up lullaby, and as a parent that has stayed up well past midnight with an infant it made total sense to be up in the middle of the night with tired eyes. When she first started singing the song, I thought it was a double entendre for her talking about their baby. I definitely romanticized it.
@AndresAranaDemon
@AndresAranaDemon Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, that is a sad song a goodbye song
@corneliastreet2491
@corneliastreet2491 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see how it’s nihilistic? 😂 am I just fully clueless. I thought that “he says what a mind, it happens all the time” meant that he is constantly praising her creativity and intelligence and is finding new things to appreciate about her even long into a relationship. I do see how it’s bittersweet that the world is chaotic and she has to escape it to find solace with him, but I don’t think it’s particularly depressing or reflects poorly on the relationship? Are here other parts that make you think that?
@erikaarreola216
@erikaarreola216 10 ай бұрын
I really connected with Reputation and Lover, because I strongly believe that Joe was her FIRST long term love. This is that first love where you feel so strongly about someone to the point where you almost feel insecure that they might leave you. I felt this so strongly with my first long term love. Some couple don’t always break up, but when they do it’s usually because both grow apart and usually one emotionally neglects the other (Midnights and some songs in Folklore and Evermore show this a lot!). All of her later albums have helped me heal so much, because I felt seen. I wish Taylor so much happiness and healing during this time.
@catrionathepoet130
@catrionathepoet130 Жыл бұрын
Taylor says it all in her lyrics, and you're on point. I think Taylor and Joe had a lot of issues, and wanted different things. It seems she was paranoid of the ending because she wanted something consistent, probably a fear of a lot of women in their thirties wanting their 'forever person', but having doubts, realising the person isn't right for you and the fear of having to start over again. I think the songs on Midnights suggest they may have actually already broken up during the creation Midnights, even though Joe helped her write some of the songs. But I think she had lingering curiosity about Matty, and there was some feelings and yearning while she was with Joe, which is quite common in long term relationships when you compare the relationship you're in to someone you had something brief with in the past that feels more right.
@hayleys1260
@hayleys1260 Жыл бұрын
Those of us who like the early stages of a relationship best are doomed to end up alone. But she has so much else in her life that might be OK for her.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Idk. I do think Taylor's a bit of a hopeless romantic and needs the excitement that the early stages of a relationship brings, which is why before and after Joe, she gravitated towards unpredictable men. I am curious how she feels about settling down now, because her lyrics recently suggest she might not be interested in that anymore.
@clearcoast4454
@clearcoast4454 Жыл бұрын
I hate it when some traditional people try to force her to tone down her career and get married. If she doesn’t want marriage and wants to shine in her career while having some romance at the same time, then why can't she? A lot of male celebrities are like this and no one is so interested about them settling down
@mallorygieringer5112
@mallorygieringer5112 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@clearcoast4454 I think no one talks about those male celebrities bc let’s be honest they can pull a George Clooney and at 60 something decide to have kids.. women can’t do that. This is why marriage, kids and settling down soon are brought up to women and not men It’s sad but unfortunate reality all of us women have to confront because if we really do want biological kids of our own we only have so much time to do that. We don’t have the luxury of time men do.
@clearcoast4454
@clearcoast4454 Жыл бұрын
@@mallorygieringer5112 She only mentioned her willingness to have a child with Joe in a Folklore song, but he was probably not on the same page. However, from her recent songs, it seems like she doesn't want marriage or kids anymore. Even after that, some people are still forcing her to get married and have children. It's her choice if she doesn't want to settle down. No one has any right to force their opinion on others. Besides, women have more luxury of time than men since women on average live longer than men. Meanwhile, if her parental instinct gets active, she can always adopt some kids. There are a lot of unwanted children in this world and it'll be better if rich people take care of them instead of increasing the population with their own offspring. As for partner, she's Taylor Swift, dude. There'll be lines of men wanting to date her even when she'll become 90. For now, she's focusing on her career, let her do whatever she's doing. It's her life anyway
@donardodavinci6126
@donardodavinci6126 Жыл бұрын
I expected much more commentary about Taylor always portraying Joe as superior, because that is what's really alarming.
@Cat-oj5oj
@Cat-oj5oj 10 ай бұрын
Someone finally said it!!! She put him on a pedestal and saw him as better than her. It’s so sad.
@1Gonegirl
@1Gonegirl Жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one!...even one of her exes recalls her writing songs and realizing afterwards that they were about him.....she is A MASTERMIND A GENIUS...AND I'M SO PRIVILEGED TO BE ALIVE IN THE ERA OF TAYLOR...AT 53 I CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKEY..AND I'VE LIVED EVERY SONG...PAST AND FUTURE ❤
@1Gonegirl
@1Gonegirl Жыл бұрын
I do believe all of the songs from Reputation to Midnights are about Joe...and the many ups and downs...and believe midnight rain is about their end
@1Gonegirl
@1Gonegirl Жыл бұрын
I'm excited for her future...love is different from high school,your 20s,30s,40s...and the ughhh I'm done 50s
@lindamcgillin2263
@lindamcgillin2263 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Taylor is a monster talent and a gift to all of us. What she is doing to unite and empower girls and women cannot be underestimated. I have written an epic past life recall novel of divine feminine ( Venice in the 1400s, a Magical palace and Taylor was there ) and I am marketing it now for an epic tv series. I want Taylor to do a soundtrack song and meet her. Our daughter is a massive fan and just saw Taylor in Philly with her best friend. They both said it was the best night of their lives. Taylor is always about female justice and I have known her several past lives and that is always her theme. Justice for women and girls
@abigailh7715
@abigailh7715 Жыл бұрын
@@lindamcgillin2263 oh boy lol 🙄 are you ever gullible
@lindamcgillin2263
@lindamcgillin2263 Жыл бұрын
@@abigailh7715 gullible??? No I can read the Akashic records ……💯💯💯💯😂😂😂😂😂
@gilbertanne88
@gilbertanne88 Жыл бұрын
I do agree on some of the interpretations especially how what they need in 2016 vs 2023 has changed just like the level of fame -you are also spot on about Taylor's insecurities. They don't seem to go away even in Midnights " One day I'll watch as you are leaving." It's a pattern that is reflected even in earlier albums. A few other things : Most songs in Midnights rightfully use the " past tense " as all the songs are her looking back at different years of her life/ past relationships or past stages in her relationship with Joe. So the past tense is apt. Even in Sweet Nothing which sounds like it is set around the pandemic times. Yes Question is the most concerning song in that album . The only way "meteoric strike " could be justified was if the "looking back" theme applied. Otherwise it's a red flag . I feel Mastermind does not contradict but rather complements Invisible String : Invisible String is what brought them together but Mastermind is what it takes to ensure it became an actual relationship.
@tmarie69
@tmarie69 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video!! It seems like he didn’t care for the attention and she wants him to be comfortable with it. Also, (and I’m saying this because I feel like I’m this way) it feels like when you understand you have a guy who’s really good, awesome even. But he’s not giving you that SOMETHING that you really need. I hope that makes sense.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. We obviously don't know what actually ended Taylor and Joe's relationship, but I do think she missed the excitement and public activity of the 1989 era and her previous relationships, based on how much she's been seen in NYC recently. It must have been difficult for her to balance having such insane success and fame recently, while being with a guy who didn't want anyone to see them.
@tmarie69
@tmarie69 Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. Absolutely!! I remember when I ended things with my then boyfriend in 2021. He was great! Like literally a dream to most people. But the person I was working toward becoming didn’t align with who he was at his core so we had to end it. My current partner is wonderful and I love him. The things I need in a relationship don’t seem stupid/like a bother to him. But if people compared him to my ex most would choose my ex.
@daniellelevine9638
@daniellelevine9638 Жыл бұрын
this was a really interesting take. I enjoyed the graphs about the themes, and this is gonna live rent free in my head as I try to go to sleep. Thank you! 🛏️💤
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Haha thank you 😊
@pegmama8
@pegmama8 Жыл бұрын
LOVED this approach to discussing themes and lyrics. Great video!
@andreabricenoortega5087
@andreabricenoortega5087 Жыл бұрын
I actually think evermore is the most juicy album about their breakup, even though is fiction. The whole album is about endings. I think subconsciously, she saw it coming.
@Bpulice822
@Bpulice822 Жыл бұрын
Solid assessment. Hits on many of the points I’ve picked up on since reputation
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@brittanyparistx
@brittanyparistx Жыл бұрын
Love this analysis!!!! You also kinda supported a thought I had after she approached Harry at the Grammy’s: what if they had another fling? I feel like they both felt things were left unfinished. I doubt it’ll happen but they’ve both alluded to their short-lived romance in their songs and I personally would love to see it.
@chelsiewaite1606
@chelsiewaite1606 Жыл бұрын
Taylor and Jo wrote Sweet Nothing together, and Taylor has said she wrote Mirrorball regarding her need for her fans and their love.
@tchaika222
@tchaika222 Жыл бұрын
Midnights just rubbed me the wrong way the first time I listened to it. The songs didn't fit the 70s aesthetics at all, but mostly, I couldn't believe that someone who was in a 6-year relationship that was supposed to be all sunshines and rainbows would go back to write about old breakups that were more than half a decade old. It started making sense to me after the breakup with Joe. I think he ended it, but since she is the celebrity with the big PR team, she gets to say that it was mutual. "He wanted it comfortable, I wanted that pain"? Yeah, pretty much anyone who's older than 30 and in a long-term relationship will want it comfortable and not be stirring up drama to test the solidity of the relationship all the time.
@denverdubois5835
@denverdubois5835 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I agree.
@erikaarreola216
@erikaarreola216 10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but have you ever been in a long term relationship? People grow up and grow apart in long term relationships, especially if they were started in your 20s. It’s normal to think about you’re exes as you get older and to have a different perspective about it. Taylor and Joe grew apart and wanted very different things.
@xoxdesire
@xoxdesire 10 ай бұрын
I'm a Taylor stan but I was always wondering what Joe was thinking about Question?, Bejeweled, etc. Especially bc every relationship before him was with someone just as famous as her. He had to have felt a bit insecure. Who knows? But I mean Taylor was singing about that since Fearless. On "The Way I Loved You" she sings about have a great guy but missing the screaming, fighting and kissing in the rain. I honestly think at like the 5 year mark things change. I been there. It's not like the beginning where u get butterflies all the time and I mean you're not really flirting etc. It got comfortable
@krisyanren755
@krisyanren755 Жыл бұрын
I do believe the Midnights album is about how rocky their relationship is
@kuggsbuggs
@kuggsbuggs Жыл бұрын
The line she said recently on stage about being the happiest she’s ever been in every aspect of her life reminds me of “and my smile is like I won a contest and to hide that would be so dishonest” from SOTB
@martha4686
@martha4686 Жыл бұрын
After watching this video, I'm seeing the whole breakup thing from a less concerned perspective. I've had never interpreted most of the lyrics the way it is explained here, especially those from Midnights hinting at her real feelings about the relationship and pointing to the end of it. Ever since I knew they split up I was in total disbelief and distress about the news but now I feel like I finally understand why it happened, although I still feel sorrowful when I remember they're not together anymore. I comprehend Taylor's need for freedom and excitement (she's a Sagittarius like me ♐) but I believe the main reason for the end of the relationship was Taylor's multiple insecurities and self-fulfilled "my fame's gonna separate us apart" prophecy and that's kinda heartbreaking. I just hope she eventually takes the time to acknowledge the grief phase of the breakup to move on from it in the healthiest way, as well as us Swifties 🙁
@lindamcgillin2263
@lindamcgillin2263 Жыл бұрын
Deep dive into Taylor’s lyrics and so well researched!!!!!! It’s so hard to be an ambitious woman of Taylor’s stature and to keep a relationship successful
@lindamcgillin2263
@lindamcgillin2263 Жыл бұрын
@@sethhillyer4443 why even bother with such stupid comments like this… like SERIOUSLY
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@lindamcgillin2263
@lindamcgillin2263 Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. thank you for doing it! My daughter is obsessed with Taylor and just saw her with her best friend in Philly and they both said it was the best night of their lives!!! Taylor is the biggest thing in music now and such a genius and such a role model and inspiration for girls and women. Her positive influence can’t be overstated
@berryrl9
@berryrl9 11 ай бұрын
But there are women who are highly successful maintained their relationships/marriages, Beyonce (despite cheating rumors but she still managed to stay married and kept her marriage private), Celine Dion was married to her late husband until his death, Katy Perry seemed to make it work with Orlando Bloom
@tanushrideb4411
@tanushrideb4411 Жыл бұрын
I am a huge, huge Taylor fan!! Been her fan since 2009. i am 29 now! But i feel Joe has been the perfect guy for her!!! It feels sad to realise its all in the past! I wish her all the happiness
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
It's definitely sad but Joe is so private so we really don't know anything about their relationship other than what Taylor told us in songs. I don't think a 6 year long relationship would end without a really good reason.
@greatminds1017
@greatminds1017 Жыл бұрын
​@@elsiebo....why would you want to know more about their relationship other than what they wete willing to share? People should have relationships for themselves, not the public
@erikaarreola216
@erikaarreola216 10 ай бұрын
In theory, a person can be perfect for you, but you can’t always rely on what others around you think. I’m sure Taylor and Joe did make a great couple but the relationship ran it’s course.
@crystalclear7453
@crystalclear7453 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your views on this subject. You were impartial but incisive and concise. You got a new subscriber. Btw, I agree with your thesis about Taylor's breakup with Joe.
@icantseeyou1294
@icantseeyou1294 Жыл бұрын
When I was hearing Midnights for the first time, I thought about how strange it would be if Taylor wrote about her exes, altough she is in a happy relationship for six years. I saw the theories regarding Midnight rain, but it’s just never felt quite right to me. Taylor Lautner? Tom Hiddleston? Why would she reference it? (It’s a whole different story that she wrote Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve about John Mayer, it even could be a forshadowing of Speak Now.) I guess, there are songs which are about the start of their relationship and others, which are about their breakup. It was combined perfectly that the lyrics of the last category could be recognised as past situations. First, I was sure that Bigger than the whole sky is also one of these, the feeling that you have to let go of someone, but it seems like the hardest thing you’ve ever done, however, the theories around that makes perfect sense to me. I honestly feel sorry for her, because of the hate she gets for her own choices in her personal life. Yes, Matty Healy seems kind of awkward with her and neither they look like soulmates, but I’m happy if she is and we don’t really know what is happening with them - and I would also love a collab. Plus, it’s not really realistic to think that Joe and Taylor broke up recently. The media controls the narrative which we got, but I had a thought, that they might declared their relationship’s ending, so Taylor and Matty could show up together.
@caterinamura288
@caterinamura288 Жыл бұрын
i've always thought that taylor and joe have been through a crisis after reputation. probably she thought that he was cheating on her. In lover she talk a lot of time about the color blue that I think she associates with sadness. "It's blue the felling i've got" "Said, "I'm fine, " but it wasn't true" "He looks up grinning like a devil". Cruel summer can truly be a song about someone who suspects of begin cheted on by the one he loves, but has no clues. She said also "I'm scared that everybody who sees you want you", in lover. And in Cornelia Street, she talks about a moment when she thought "he was leding her on" but then he called and everything was fine. She said that she is ready for combat in The Archer, and the in afterglow she tried to apologise: I blew things out of proportion, now you're blue Put you in jail for something you didn't do I pinned your hands behind your back, oh Thought I had reason to attack, but no The great war is Taylor that remembers that crisis: "You said I have to trust more freely" " It turned into something bigger, somewhere in the haze, got a sense I'd been betrayed". Anyway ther relationship has always been a little bit trobled. It's a case that joe writes a lot of songs about guys that try to apologise with girls (betty and exile?). And in folklore there's hoax as well, that i think begin about joe (You know i left a part of me back in new york or you know that still hurts underneath my scars, from when they pulled me apart but what you did was just as dark). I think that maroon is about joe. We don't know a taylor's ex that whe was with her was not enough rich to buy an house by himseld and had a roomates. And New York is a city that's always been important for their relationship.
@JT-ph3hk
@JT-ph3hk 8 ай бұрын
agree, also it feels that champagne problems is to real, to personal...probably she realized that she didn't want a long term relationship with him when he started to talk about a proposal
@onurturekmt1595
@onurturekmt1595 Жыл бұрын
Is no one gonna talk about the thumbnail like it’s beautiful I love Stranger Things and I love Taylor Swift what more could I want
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Lmao I had a different thumbnail for it when it was first uploaded and the video only got like 50 views, and for some reason I thought it would be cool to make this. I started out wanting the background to be like a Midnight Sky to represent Midnights and I eventually turned it into Stranger Things. Idk why. It's random but I just thought it looked pretty.
@HoneyBlissClothing
@HoneyBlissClothing Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely on point👌👌
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sophiewu5673
@sophiewu5673 Жыл бұрын
omg this is such a good vid HOW DOES IT ONLY HAVE 726 VIEWS??
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much. I'm kinda overwhelmed because I uploaded this and it only got around 100 views and then it got another 700 overnight and idk why. But thank you for watching cause I really put time and research into this!
@PeachyPechx
@PeachyPechx 10 ай бұрын
No bc after I listened to you’re losing me for the first time lavender haze seemed like Taylor gaslighting herself into believing that she didn’t wanted to get married 😭😭😭
@MSeliskaZ
@MSeliskaZ Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks… I am not a Swiftie(I love her music but not a hardcore fan😅) but I really enjoyed this video:))
@inwe1205
@inwe1205 Жыл бұрын
Same here!
@leonardojlseling4890
@leonardojlseling4890 Жыл бұрын
PERFECT analysis!!!!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 💓
@kaneedabreeze6830
@kaneedabreeze6830 Жыл бұрын
I mean she wrote “happiness” while being with Joe. I feel like they’ve been broken up or on the rocks for muuuuuch longer than the public knows.
@nataliewhitekondratenko5786
@nataliewhitekondratenko5786 Жыл бұрын
She used to like all of his posts on IG, but she hasn't like a post in about a year. Also, he posted more frequently before she stopped. I wonder if they have been on/off since last summer and then one of them just finally pulled the plug.
@drewrosen
@drewrosen 9 ай бұрын
I love this deep dive!!!!! I think Midnight Rain is about Taylor and Joe growing apart and how Taylor wanted to focus on her career but Joe wanted a super private life. I also think that Maroon is about Joe. And definitely Snow on the beach, which I think is about the more early stages of the relationship, and wondering if it could ever work out. Kind of like the thesis of their entire relationship, “can this be a real thing, can it”.
@onlyhousestarklivesmatter
@onlyhousestarklivesmatter Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t think question is about harry styles, I think it’s a misdirect. The latest developments have made me convinced of the 2014 dating rumours of Taylor and Matty. Whether we like him or hate him, we have to be more realistic
@greenfox42
@greenfox42 Жыл бұрын
Loved your video! You deserve WAY more subscribers!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! My subscribers have doubled just from this video, so fingers crossed I keep growing 🤞
@greenfox42
@greenfox42 Жыл бұрын
It definitely will! Your content quality is already so polished and well researched and edited! Plus, you have a perfect voice for narration! All the signs of an up-in-coming KZbin channel. (*^ω^*)
@lukeflowney1501
@lukeflowney1501 Жыл бұрын
if you listen to dear reader, it makes so much since and linda gives details to me about their break up. as well as bigger than the whole sky
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Totally. I didn't think Bigger than the whole sky was about Joe so I didn't include it. P.S. Is that you in your profile picture with Taylor? If so, you're so lucky to have met her!
@nataliaceballos743
@nataliaceballos743 Жыл бұрын
Nice analysis!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bonolover360
@bonolover360 Жыл бұрын
I think you are spot on 😊
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
@@sethhillyer4443 Bruh
@lolalaise4530
@lolalaise4530 Жыл бұрын
This is so good!
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@miffietoca
@miffietoca Жыл бұрын
100 SUBSCRIBERS? WHEN I CLICKED ON THIS I THOUGHT YOU HAD MORE LIKE 100K SUBSCRIBERS- IVE LIKED, SUBBED AND COMMENTED ILY THIS IS SO GOOD ❤
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh! This really means so much I can't tell even tell you. That's such a nice thing to say. Thank you so so much! ❤❤
@kaitlynrain899
@kaitlynrain899 Жыл бұрын
Never listening to sweet nothing the same again😭😭
@kelseymccurdy8
@kelseymccurdy8 10 ай бұрын
Loving the Taylor deep dives ❤
@topsyturvy06
@topsyturvy06 Жыл бұрын
Something did happen for Taylor to end it after 6 years. All of her friends want nothing to do with him, and jack set her up with matty. That says alot to me! Her friends are encouraging this relationship. Fans are saying she changed the lyric to the one, you met a woman on the internet and took her home. That has to mean something!
@renthleiwmo982
@renthleiwmo982 Жыл бұрын
who is Jack
@blakeandjoanne
@blakeandjoanne 11 ай бұрын
@@renthleiwmo982 Jack antonoff is her friend, collaborator and producer
@olenkagamboa1djb
@olenkagamboa1djb Жыл бұрын
Taylor is like a teenager she always wants to feel the big crush running through her body and electricity and excitement. Once things start to settle down it gets boring to her and she feels that she may be forcing herself to be with someone. She never was in such a long relationship so everything was new to her and I guess she wasn’t sure how to handle it. She wants fame and success while Joe wanted a normal relationship and life. I guess Joe thought Taylor would settle down after some years but the truth was that she kept going higher and higher. Causing lots of problems and doubts. I think they both tried to believe the other would change or accept their points of views. I don’t blame Joe nor Taylor. Unfortunately they were looking at different directions, people change and people grow apart doesn’t mean one person is bad or evil. I wish them the best, after all Taylor decided to stay with him for years so I don’t think he was a bad guy just not the one she was expecting
@courtneybrooks8309
@courtneybrooks8309 Жыл бұрын
Girl u put my thoughts in words
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤
@farsanau2590
@farsanau2590 Жыл бұрын
How come you've less subscribers? You're so good at deepdiving 😂❤
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope I keep growing 🙏
@LinTree25
@LinTree25 Жыл бұрын
This video is so good.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 💓
@sharonvik7643
@sharonvik7643 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't the whole "theme" of Midnights the fact that she had written songs over many, many years about her self-doubts? To say that Midnights is entirely an album about the breakdown of Taylor and Joe is missing the point of the album. This is how Taylor has felt for many, many years.
@mallorygieringer5112
@mallorygieringer5112 Жыл бұрын
I agree! You wouldn’t stay up late past midnight thinking about past lovers unless your current relationship was making you question things. It all kinda makes sense in a sad unfortunate way bc her fame will fade and if Joe was a good and right man for her he won’t still be available then. She’s always struck me as someone who doesn’t want to grow up and has struggled to cross the threshold into adulthood when it comes to intimate relationships.
@Jalleur14325
@Jalleur14325 11 ай бұрын
I think that was only partly true, obviously she doesn't want to reveal her whole hand.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Omg guys! I hit 100 subscribers this morning. Thank you all so much! I literally gained like 30 overnight :)
@lisamatute239
@lisamatute239 Жыл бұрын
Taylor will find the man that she deserves, and he will love her for her fame and for her private personalities. She is a strong artistic girl who have grown into a woman and knows exactly how a woman should be treated and she knows what a man needs. Taylor grew up with her mother and father, so she knows what a relationship is about. These days many youngsters are not into the vibes the old skool lovers grew up knowing the right way to love, they just jump in a relationship just to say they are with someone. Taylor knows exactly what love is and is ready to give it to the one who knows the same. Joe is not ready to settle either he himself is wandering around with the one who loves him and will break her heart too, it's just a matter of time because Joe wants to be in control of his relationship but because Taylor is a iconic star and he is too, Joe wants more control of the affair because he is a star. Taylor on the other hand has her own control.
@biceismyfavorite
@biceismyfavorite Жыл бұрын
This was excellent. All those other creators can move over
@SangreEun
@SangreEun Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the themes, agreeable. ✨👍
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thank you ❤
@shelleyreed6257
@shelleyreed6257 Жыл бұрын
I think Taylor is a talented musician however I get the feeling she is more intrigued by the British accent than the man behind it.🤔
@amandasoul
@amandasoul 10 ай бұрын
I’m trying to get 100 too!!! Good luck, great video 😊
@littlemissbadass9365
@littlemissbadass9365 Жыл бұрын
I miss haylor lol amazing deep dive 👏👏🙌 you know when I heard "Staring at the ceiling with you you never say too much" I thought to myself man that sounds kinda sucky tbh😅
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Lol. Tbh Haylor getting back together would be the most iconic thing ever. I'm still praying he appears in the 1989 vault.
@littlemissbadass9365
@littlemissbadass9365 Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. same!!
@GraphicallyAlex
@GraphicallyAlex Жыл бұрын
I think question is about Jake lol but I will say, I speculate that tolerate it may be about joe secretly. Honestly. I think she resented that he wouldn’t talk about her publicly. She felt that she shouted her love for him from the rooftops and he never did. I think she fantasized about it ending for a while, and I do agree that she had healed and wanted to be public again, and she possibly told him she wanted to step down at first, and maybe just wasn’t self aware enough to know that about herself. I also feel as tho the cheating element really bothered her, she has covered that topic so many times and I think that being the foundation may have struck a cord with her, morally. Really enjoyed this video! I think it was complicated obviously, but I think there was an incompatibility there, it was something she wanted while wounded, but not healed. And he may not have liked the healed Taylor as much. Very sad, I think there may be more lyrics to come haha.
@itsnj2607
@itsnj2607 Жыл бұрын
i knew it midnight is heartbreaking album and explains some of their memories🥺🥺🥺
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
😭
@JasmineBella
@JasmineBella Жыл бұрын
Why hasn't she performed Maroon on the eras tour yet? I suspect that it is the song closest to the truth about their break up and she may not be ready to sing it without crying yet.
@JT-ph3hk
@JT-ph3hk 8 ай бұрын
agree, also it feels that champagne problems is to real, to personal...probably she realized that she didn't want a long term relationship with him when he started to talk about a proposal
@wei_one9389
@wei_one9389 8 ай бұрын
I personally would’ve added “tolerate it” too cause I think it’s about Joe. Every time he was asked about Taylor he would just brush it away almost ignoring the questions (now I understand that it maybe be because he wanted to be private, but Taylor would talk about joe publicly and was private about it, so I don’t think it’s a good excuse)
@Bea56601
@Bea56601 Жыл бұрын
My only thing is you said twice that she’s at 1989 levels of success.. when she is and has been for years so far past that. She is arguably the biggest pop star in the world right now. Other than that a lot of this is what we swifties all knew. I do like some of your analysis of Midnights, though. Interesting 🧐
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
I see where you're coming from. What I meant was that during 1989 and now, she had literally no competition. In terms of popularity, success, charts, streaming and sales, she dominated everyone else and no one came close. Whereas in the reputation and lover eras, there were other main pop girls who out-streamed and out-charted her.
@shaylajacquelyn
@shaylajacquelyn Жыл бұрын
What abt Hoax? I feel like it was really telling for their relationship and I’m surprised you left it out of your analysis.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
I also think that Hoax is about Joe and is very telling but I tried to only include songs where Taylor has either explicitly confirmed that it was about Joe, or songs where everyone is in agreement that it's about him because the lyrics are so clear. When I was researching for this, I looked at online discussions on Reddit and Twitter about Hoax and a lot of fans thought it wasn't about Joe, so I didn't want to include it and have a bunch of people arguing about it. I didn't include Midnight Rain for the same reason, although I think that's about Joe too.
@Jalleur14325
@Jalleur14325 11 ай бұрын
Nice analysis. I havent pored over Folklore or Evermore, but my feeling is that Taylor's level of fame was probably just a bit much for him. But ultimately there will have been factors of their own personal relationship that were the real reason. One or other or both must have fallen out of love. I still get the impression that Taylor projected a lot of things onto Joe and talked herself into things. I mean, does Taylor really like the grungy scene of plastic beer cups, with Joe? I can't help but feel that Hiddeston was the big gestures guy. Maybe Mayer in his way, putting her on a pedestal too.
@rollinginthedeep6900
@rollinginthedeep6900 9 ай бұрын
I like a lot of what you bring up in this video, but ultimately I don't really think Midnights is as explicitely about Joe as you say. After hearing about the break up, I definitely went back and relistened to it and the themes you point out stood out much more as relating to Joe. But I also still think a lot of it is reminiscing on past relationships, probably in part due to the struggles she and Joe were facing in the present. I agree with your analysis that Taylor clung to this relationship as an escape from media criticism, but she solely doesn't talk about Joe all in past tense like you say. In Long Story Short she even refers to a "wrong guy" who is a former lover and then talks to a "you" who we can assume to be Joe. I also don't think we should entirely skip over Evermore, even though it's fictional I think it gives a lot of insight into her mental state and the type of problems in her life during the time leading up to the break up. For example in Champagne Problems she talks about "She would've made such a lovely bride What a shame she's fucked in the head" and the concept of rejecting a proposal when you're in love but not ready for marriage due to insecurities and problems with yourself. If she and Joe were fighting about related topics, it makes sense why these themes would show up in her music even in a fictional capacity. Ultimately though I really liked your video! It helped me look at her recent music in a whole new light. Even at face value, the melancholia and sadness and guilt and self blame she expressed throughout Folklore, Evermore, and Midnights give a lot of insight to how she must have been feeling with Joe. Regardless of the fame I'm not sure if dealing with all that guilt would be good for any relationship to prosper. But I'm happy that Taylor is able to keep going and express herself so well through her music so we all have something to relate to and help us overcome our troubles as well. It just sucks she suffers so publicly but that's her choice as well to an extent.
@quibblcr
@quibblcr Жыл бұрын
THE THUMBNAIL 😭
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
😶
@BrittenThompson
@BrittenThompson Жыл бұрын
I disagree with a lot of this. I think Maroon is about Joe. I think Taylor has always wanted to get married and Joe didn’t and that’s why she has sung about marriage since she was young and suddenly she started acting like she doesn’t want to get married. In Hit Different, she says “I wouldn’t marry me either”. Those are the words of someone who did want to get married. I think a song you’ve ignored in “Bigger Than the Whole Sky”, which seems to be about a miscarriage. This a deeply personal thing, but I wonder if this is when cracks really started to show.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Yeah the lines in You're losing me do clarify her view on marriage which was unclear based on Lavender Haze. I agree that Bigger than the whole sky is about miscarriage but I'm almost certain it's about Claire Winter's miscarriage due to her Instagram posts, rather than something Taylor experienced. And as for Maroon, I did think it was about Joe but based on her speech about Maroon the other night in New York, I think it may be a culmination, or about Jake Gyllenhaal, given that she specified that it's about a relationship from a long time ago.
@donardodavinci6126
@donardodavinci6126 Жыл бұрын
Question..? could also be about Matty Healy. They first met in 2014 and were rumored to be dating. At the time Healy was a drug user and it's likely that Swift broke off the relationship before it could even properly start, so her image wouldn't be affected. 1989 is after all the era where her public image was controlled the most (by herself) and very precisely marketed. They then reconnected in 2022 due to Jack Antonoff. It's just an idea... although in my opinion the "laughing at you...clapping too" lyric makes more sense in the Healy context.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
100%. I uploaded this video right before her and Matty became a thing, so everyone as assuming that Question must be about Harry. I still personally think it's about Harry because of the lyrics about "when she said it was too much" and "meteor strike" and that lines up with a lot of the lyrics in 1989 about the relationship being so monumental and overwhelming, but it could definitely be about Matty too.
@MrsMcIlrath
@MrsMcIlrath Жыл бұрын
Not trying to b a jerk but u shouldn’t have to chose between being with ur boo or living in the spotlight. There’s a difference between the movie star lifestyle and the pop star in my opinion. And there’s also a difference between being private and never going to events together
@robynwright8739
@robynwright8739 Ай бұрын
This is a wonderful perspective. They were together over 6 years and she has 6 years of material to write about (very successful years). In an interview, she mentioned that she and Joe like sad songs. Given that she is so insecure it would make sense she felt cheated on given his movies. Must be very difficult seeing him with so many women in intimate settings.
@rjapeth1022
@rjapeth1022 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought that Midnights was written during that year when nobody saw her? Like after 1989 but before reputation. Idk I thought that's what she said but I guess not lolol. Anyways this makes a lot of sense and some of these I did notice while listening to Midnights. I just hope that Taylor is happy
@nilay_nur
@nilay_nur Жыл бұрын
No, she said that all songs were written recently. And Aaron also said that WCS was the first song written for midnights and that Taylor wrote it during the 2021 grammys. The album that you're thinking of is "Karma" but that's only a fan theory.
@rjapeth1022
@rjapeth1022 Жыл бұрын
@@nilay_nur Ohhhh huh TYYY
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I've got a video on the Karma album theory as well if you're interested.
@rjapeth1022
@rjapeth1022 Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. Ohh maybe I'll check it our
@leliza8477
@leliza8477 10 ай бұрын
“Question…?” Is 100% aimed at Justin Bieber on behalf of Selena. Shes emotionally removed from the situation, which is very out of character for her songs. It very much gives the energy of a best friend’s angry interrogation to a douchebag while her friend is crying in the next room. “What’s that that I heard? That you’re still with her? That’s nice, I’m sure that’s what’s suitable.” Fits way more with Justin and Hailey than Harry.
@soofsofi
@soofsofi 11 ай бұрын
I honestly think that they just wanted different things, Joe is an actor, he can have a semi private life outside of promo events for the projects he works in. But Taylor's a musician, her music is about her and has always been about her and the people in her life. That's her essence, she built her core audience and fanbase on that and it's not going to change. It's sad that the pandemic, lockdown and everything that came with that dragged the relationship along for so long (at least in my opinion, It was easy to stay in a bubble if everyone was in a bubble too). It's sad because she's grown so much, she came to terms with what she actually wants in a partner, in her life, etc. So yeah, it''s just sad, but when I listened to midnights it was weird to me since she was supposedly in a happy relationship, some things just didn't make sense, and in the context of the breakup now they do
@Raelven
@Raelven Жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant take and analysis. Been wanting to watch a full timeline. You did a great job, very professional and appreciate the work you put into this. Subbed! Edit: While not a hardcore Swiftie, there's no denying that Taylor took raw talent and combined it with incredibly hard work to become the performing singer-songwrite that she is. I've watched her career since the Reputation album. Snd I have long thought that in Joe, she found a "normalcy" that she desperately needed at the time. He gave her a safe place to recover from the public attack on herself and her career. But normal isn't something she was used to. Her life is so much under scrutiny, and I think that is now just part of her. So the nice and normal, stable, out of the public eye life that he gave her, just got... Boring. It felt weird and maybe even suffocating after some time. She needed to go be Taylor Swift, the star, again. I don't think there was any cheating, at least not by him. I do think he had to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement and that's why he will never give his side. He legally can't. But I also think that he probably knew what he was getting into, and accepted that, early on, it wasn't going to be forever. I mean, if Taylor Swift picks you to be her muse for a time, who is going to say no to that? "Who could ever leave me, darling / But who could stay?" Some of the.modt honest words ever written about balancing ultra fame with a regular life. In the end, it just can't be done. Again, you did an excellent derp dive, and I think you really got it right. And I am so happy that I am not Taylor Swift. As fun as it must be, I simply could not manage the pressure of it all. She is really a very unique person. And she writes some damn good songs. Can't wait to see what she, and you, produce next. 😎
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so much! This is probably the nicest comment I've ever had. I'm glad you enjoyed it cause I really put the time in to try and make this video good. I noticed some trends in her songs about Joe and couldn't find another video like this so I decided to make one myself. Thank you so much for subbing!
@Raelven
@Raelven Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. Really. The way you untangled it all then logically strung it back together was masterful. I think your channel will blow up, because your content is really high quality and interesting and unique. Edit: I should go fix my typos. But I'm not gonna. 🤣
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
@@Raelven lol. Thank you. It really means a lot.
@mariannefong4200
@mariannefong4200 Жыл бұрын
Re reference to a boy Taylor dated from her hometown which is Nashville TN I just searched Taylor Swift high school sweetheart. She did date a guy in Henderson High School in TN. His name is Jordan Alford and they broke up because he fell for Taylor's friend Chelsea whom Jordan ended up marrying. The song Picture To Burn (my favorite Taylor song) was said to be about Jordan.
@SagaciousSilence
@SagaciousSilence 9 ай бұрын
Now she’s seeing football player Kelce. That seems very random.
@BlackLasher
@BlackLasher Жыл бұрын
Also "peace" represents something else.
@guyplacencio9454
@guyplacencio9454 Жыл бұрын
He's personally think that Midnight's was about her terminating through the ship Bejeweled was her telling me was ready to shine on their own without Joe I no longer wanted to be considered having him and her as part of their relationship you're on your own kid her coming to the realization that they would part their way bringing an end to any of his or her life which fits in perfect with the era tour Q fans who have talked about the different eras her life😢 another one of her clever games that she plays with her fans letting them know what's going on in their world that is usually private just like her relationship with your husband her break up with him would be public hand available for the world to see🛡️😳 I really can't believe that I put so much. In this whole drama just my impression gathered from another Swifty's comments about the whole event
@anasarracena
@anasarracena Жыл бұрын
If you borrowed some of these insights from the channel Swiftologist, you should give him credit
@ShelleBaby
@ShelleBaby Жыл бұрын
Well we are assuming a lot here aren’t we. We don’t know which songs are about Joe
@CrimsonEclipse
@CrimsonEclipse 10 ай бұрын
Taylor Swift was never really a private person. Majority of her songs are sneek peek in her life and most relationship she had are high profile including the break ups and it follows by easter eggs in the songs about details of her life. Even her friendship and details about her friends problems and her involvement she highly publicized. Even her being known to quietly donate to charities was never quietly and openly publicized by her publicist. Joe and Taylor wants completely different things. Joe actually wants a private life. Keeping professional life separate from his personal life. While Taylor Swift herself and her whole career is built on being available to the public. Being able to tell the public about her life, from all the good and all the ugly in her songs and in her social media easter eggs. Also I'm assuming the reason she was with Joe for so long was probably all the bad publicity she gotten during her reputation era which did shortly made her hide in Joe arms for comfort and he assumed she wanted to escape and be away from the public just like him. But once that passed she missed the spotlight and really wanted to be back in the public spectrum. She missed being the headlines being in people's thoughts.
@alison8516
@alison8516 Жыл бұрын
I really think Question is about Matty
@Alanadellrey
@Alanadellrey 9 ай бұрын
The album was released last year so it can’t be about him. It’s most likely about Selena & Justin.
@josephgoodwin3863
@josephgoodwin3863 Жыл бұрын
The Unseen “There is only one to remember, And she was more than the month of December,” Back in the summer of ‘89 I had only one thing on my mind I was a dreamin’ what some call a schemein’, Cause I was Prayin’ to the unseen, I was prayin for a road to victory. It was a road not well known To me. How’d it go, I wouldn’t know Until that season’s very end. But by then, With 15 straight wins, My dream had earned its noble end, sadly, i wouldn't be able to do it ever again, so I spent the rest of those days chillin’ with my friends. That December I often remember, wearing my number 22, Showing my pride, Running in strides, Protecting our navy blue. I was safe and free, to live my dreams, being party to greater things And at that moment, I knew I owned it, Because I just was being me. But when I lifted that trophy, I found no glory, as I thought it should be. So, I stood there in my atonement, Thinking for a moment, “did I just set my soul free? Not all wins are good wins, And let that thought set in. So be careful with the games you play. But be forever thankful For whatever springs, As even a tiny pebble slayed a so called king. And with faith like that, know all your dreams, all your dreams shall be redeemed. Because that is the story of glory for the almighty unseen. Now, Little did I know Just four days on From that victory, There would be born A truer destiny, One set aside especially for you and me, Hand delivered, Directly from the sender I’ll always remember, It was at exactly 5:17. And Those heavenly bells, were not for sell To the one who was destined to sing Fast forward 3 decades on, And this child has grown, with a collection of prizes, some say she outsizes. However her form whatever she performs She is fully on Now, this destined One who Lights the way, Through what she wrote and played, Lit the darkness that caused this wayward son to go astray. Her lyrics were rays, To set my mind’s sights to what is right. All the While, I stumbled, Though this, my personal life I fumbled. Now people say i am crazy, Cause they think I am Chasing maybes, But that thought not be true, when I hear her songs, I know I belong exactly where I do. Not all wins are good wins, And let that thought set in. So be careful with the games you play. But be forever thankful For whatever springs, As even a tiny pebble slayed a so called king. And with faith like that, know all your dreams, all your dreams shall be redeemed. Because that is the story of glory for the almighty unseen. This angel’s echoes, call out to me, with her voice Setting my course Back to the garden of eternity. All these years I sat, waitin in vain Trying to find the reply with all my known vices To the countless truths she portrays As not to surprise her with my foolish forays. But I have only one angel in my mind, and for me, she is me. I thank the word everyday, for giving me the strength to say, You can stop your wherever run, whenever your done, setting your self on for forever fun. I yet don’t know how this story ends, but at least I tried to put a few words in Maybe I’ll call her one day soon, and say, thanks, you wanna do it again? Not all wins are good wins, And let that thought set in. So be careful with the games you play. But be forever thankful For whatever springs, As even a tiny pebble slayed a so called king. And with faith like that, know all your dreams, all your dreams shall be redeemed. Because that is the story of glory for the almighty unseen. I thank the word everyday, for giving me the strength to say, You can stop your wherever run, whenever your done, setting your self on for forever fun. Not all wins are good wins, And let that thought set in. So be careful with the games you play. But be forever thankful For whatever springs, As even a tiny pebble slayed a so called king. And with faith like that, know all your dreams, all your dreams shall be redeemed. Because that is the story of glory for the almighty unseen. I yet don’t know how this story ends, but at least I tried to put a few words in Maybe I’ll call her one day soon, and say, thanks, you wanna do it again?
@strngenchantedgirl
@strngenchantedgirl 10 ай бұрын
I’m betting that there was some huge fight between them that was based on Taylor’s insecurities and they broke up at least briefly then got back together and thought that they fixed it but one or both of them lost trust due to the nastiness of the fight. And the lack of trust and intimacy slowly broke them apart. Honestly if you go back to the beginning with Gorgeous I think there were bad signs. She always seemed to put Joe on a pedestal like he was a perfect being who was too good for her. She needs to date a guy who she has a deep emotional and mental connection with and not just a guy who is gorgeous and she has great sexual chemistry with. Also it should be someone who has an established career that they are happy with. If I were her I would avoid actors and pop stars.
@blackcoffee.
@blackcoffee. 9 ай бұрын
Do a video about Taylor and Jolene (pseudonym) and you'll get your subs.
@VeroSim
@VeroSim Жыл бұрын
one thing that i get from listening to ts now is that, i associate blue with joe 😭
@hellowjp
@hellowjp 10 ай бұрын
Taylor needs someone who can handle her status and accepts her as is.
@lauracatalinarodriguezachu1517
@lauracatalinarodriguezachu1517 Жыл бұрын
I mean GOLD RUSH talks about the realization that he is not for her and that she knows she must stop dreaming and hoping about them working as a couple
@BlackLasher
@BlackLasher Жыл бұрын
"I got a boyfriend, he's older than us." Is a reference to Tom Hiddleston. Who she was dating at the time. Just like the line in Cardigan, "I knew you would try to change the ending 'Peter losing Wendy'." was a reference to Tom Hiddleston's GQ article in which he appeared to be heartbroken.
@elsiebo.
@elsiebo. Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for watching but I personally disagree with you. Taylor met Joe and had seen him a few times while she was still with Calvin (April 29th for example). I definitely think "I got a boyfriend, he's older than us" is a reference to Calvin due to them being long-distance and the club reference since Calvin is a DJ. Similar to the headphones and records references in High Infidelity.
@BlackLasher
@BlackLasher Жыл бұрын
@@elsiebo. If she was hanging out with Joe before she got to Tom then that makes sense.
@Thatonewierdo532
@Thatonewierdo532 10 ай бұрын
OK the video is good, but why on the thumbnail it was a Taylor Swift mix with the Stranger Things character poster
@Karliality
@Karliality Жыл бұрын
I think Question is about Justin Bieber and can't see it fitting anyone else better. No one can convince me otherwise despite the song's Out of the Woods melody.
@mrsjamesbee1034
@mrsjamesbee1034 Жыл бұрын
While I loved your analysis, hearing you speak it lends me to believe even more that all these lyrics aren’t really even about Joe. Yes, they ‘could’ be - and why wouldn’t they be - he was her boyfriend, right? BUT… given these recent events and extended deep dives into The 1975’s lyrics and the 10 year friendship of Taylor and Matty… hear me out - what IF… they’ve been each other’s secret muses all this time? They are both lyrical geniuses, share a producer and if you go back and listen with this thought in mind, it will open a WHOLE new dimension into both of them. What if it’s ‘always been them’ and they are just now letting us know publicly what they’ve been pining about in their lyrics for a decade now?
@chisomchinwero4121
@chisomchinwero4121 9 ай бұрын
I think midnight rain was about Joe too. He wanted it comfortable but I wanted that pain…..I was making my own name, he stayed the same.
@korkinalina
@korkinalina 11 ай бұрын
Looks like Taylor embraces her true self with publicly saying she doesn't want to be a good quite wifey anymore. And she's finally big enough to not give a damn for what people say about her date life. Pretty inspiring for me to see growing woman accepting her true self
@kmf7142
@kmf7142 Жыл бұрын
She acted like she wanted privacy FOR him because he wanted to hear it and for her ONLY AT THAT TIME because of the crap coming down on her. Now that she isnt getting shit thrown at her from a few sides , she wants to be in the spotlight again. She is saying sorry for faking it and not being the person she acted like she was at first. She put on a front to get away. Its all her fault. She also broke them up on pirpose but tried to be gentle about it. Her fans mean more to her than he did in the end. Its okay , cause the way the relationship started was shady anyway. It may have been fate but probably just her acting like it was. Oops. 😂 she does everything for her career first including when she dates and breaks up to co-inside with albums and tours lol
@heavenjb
@heavenjb Жыл бұрын
Ok I’m not interested in this I’m interested in who is the voice of of this vlog!?😂 you sound exactly like Stephanie Harlowe one of my fav true crime peeps!?? 🤔
@kellydecamp3656
@kellydecamp3656 Жыл бұрын
Relationships can be a false god and a drug. And those relationships topple over and run out, but sometimes the people stay together. Relationships where the couple prays together are statistically most likely to stay together.
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