Deep Sand! 15 TOP Adventure or 50/50 + Dual Sport Tires Battle it Out | Tire Review Shootout

[@spencerwvcmoon]

Thanks soo much for taking us there it's dreamland for me and the road runner was such a bonus! Great test bib bib! Vroooom

[@manybikes]

Thanks for watching! Road Runners are fun to watch!

[@sav66]

This is another great honest video.. Until i found your channel. I honestly had no interest in watching tire reviews. lol... But your unbiased and honest approach to testing.. its just very refreshing.. and great to watch, and listen too. Love the Chanel, and you and your AT, was a bit of an influence in me buying a new AT/AS myself, and loving it. Thanks Kyle.. great channel and content.. Cheers from Down Under.. Neil.

[@manybikes]

neil savage Well, I’m happy to be of service! Glad you like what I’m putting together. I’ve got a series of more aggressive tires coming up... the Dunlop 908 Rally RAID and the Motoz Tractionator Desert HT. Thanks for watching!

[@driesoberholzer8689]

Hi Kyle. What an awesome review and to be honest the best one on tyres I have ever come across on KZbin. I am from Namibia and now live in Botswana. I reckon that qualifies as a fair bit of sand, rock and general off road terrain. I have used various tyres on my 990 and now 1290 adv R. Your assessments are spot on. I have used Mitas E07, E07plus,E09, E10 i think it was called, Pirelli Scorpion, TKC80 and also the Heidenau Scout 60. One of our major challenges are distance. A weekend could see you do 1500-2500 KM. Therefore whilst the full out dirt oriented tyres are great off road they are compromised terms of life span. I can't be buying tyres every second weekend and therefore live with the slightly less capable tyres off road that lasts a bit longer. Personal preference. Herein lies the rub i think for most adventurers!! From the sound of it then if you had to make a call on my criteria it would be the Motoz Tractionator GPS rear and TKC80 up front?? However the reason for posting is that I never realized how much of a difference tyres really make off road until I saw this review. I am amazed and certainlyt his has changed my thinking. A mate of mine is only starting off road now on his GS1200. The first trip out he had 80/20 Road biased tyres on and I now realize that for an experienced rider it may not be such a big issue. However for someone getting onto dirt for he first time and having to experience movement foe the first time, it must be hell of a scary!! We now have him on TKC80's and I suspect it will make a hell of a difference in getting his confidence up. Lastly, please keep one tyre constant and review the different bikes used performances off road in the terrain you tested on. Changing my worn TKC80s today for a new set of MOTOZ Tractionator Adv. Looking forward to having grip again! Cheers from 🇧🇼

[@manybikes]

Thanks for watching! You will LOVE the Motoz tires. They work so well even when pushed to the limits!

[@MonoMoto]

This is awesome but if I could ask for anything is : could you come up with some scores and give a summary ? That way it is easier digest and compare. I'd love a comparison video ! And also the same for 80/20 tires.

[@manybikes]

Mono Armin Thanks for your feedback. No Problem! I’ve actually done just that! Stay tuned!

[@bfdadventure]

Kyle Bradshaw Excellent! I was going to ask the very same thing and I’ll stay tuned!

[@3rdaxis649]

@@manybikes Do you have a link to that score rating? Thanks.

[@mdragon99]

Awesome stuff, great commentary. These tire tests are great info and great skills training as well. Love the dumps!

[@manybikes]

Ha! Ha! “Real world use”... thanks for watching!

[@MrEmanuelFerreira]

What a workout to make this video... Thanks.

[@manybikes]

For sure!!

[@swegotech8466]

Amazing video (as always !!!). I 100% agree with you about the Scorpion Rally (non-STR) tire. It was always my favorite offroad/sand front tire on the Africa Twin. They even lasted longer than I expected. The only reason why I didn't buy them again was the noise level which is insane. Right now my favorite combo is the Motoz Rallz in the rear and a TKC80 in the front. I often think about to switch back to the Scorpion Rally front tire with a Rallz in the rear, but on pavement I prefer the TKC80 for sure. Again thank you for all the great review videos :-)

[@manybikes]

Rallz & TKC80 are a great combo! I’m not a fan of the Motoz front tires either.

[@JoePass222]

@@manybikes Try the GPS front. It's been my go-to front on my 1290R because it lasts forever and isn't too bad off road. Ralls and Adventure are better in the dirt but 80% of my riding is street and the GPS is great on pavement.

[@cyclopathic998]

Thanks for the reviews! As for tire pressure some of them have harder casting so 30psi could be too hard for Mitas and K60 and too soft for TKC80 and Shinko. IMHO you would have been better off dropping 2-4psi on some and adding some on others.. considering that some are TT and others are TL with much stiffer sidewalls.

[@manybikes]

It’s true... I do agree with you. However if I ran them all at “different” pressures there wouldn’t be any consistency.

[@cyclopathic998]

@@manybikes yeah that's the nature of the beast. Perhaps you could test them at 30psi and recommend that this tire likes to be at 26/30 or this at 30/33 f/r? The only other way to get them even if you put it on sharp corner and judge by how it confirms.. sort of a durometer-like deflection test. On pavement I usually judge by temperature just run it for 1/2hr then take glove off and put hand on it should be warm but not hot

[@manybikes]

Yes. In the full reviews I do mention they are at 30 psi and then in the different terrain / situations I discuss what I’d normally comfortably run them at. Thanks for your suggestions!!!

[@bywayz]

Kyle, how about examing trailside/roadside R&R puncture repair of various tires? They aren't all the same; many of the "best" are very difficult to R&R alone in remote locations, a serious issue.

[@manybikes]

This is a great suggestion. I have videos showing repairs being done in the wild as well as R&R with trail side tools in my garage. That’s all I use when swapping tires … so as to keep myself “current” or in shape ;) Even the Motoz and Heidenau tires are easy with a couple tips. Great suggestion… I’ll work something up.

[@SB-fe4gt]

A summary of the results like you posted at the end of the tire review you did back in 2020 would be helpful...even if it is a recap of the ratings you previously posted. I need a number to go along with "Awesome" or "Not that great" :). Very good video, Thank You.

[@manybikes]

I will work on something that can be shared. Thanks for the request and thanks for watching!

[@azlong4596]

I could not get the Mitas 07+ to work very well at all on my Africa Twin. The Metzler Karoo 3 worked much better in both dirt and asphalt. I'm trying the Motoz Tractionator GPS rear w/ the desert HT on the front and so far very good.

[@manybikes]

That is a good combination!

[@fmscott2]

Just now finding this video. What is currently your top recommended front sand tire? I live on the coast and we have a lot of soft sugar beach sand on our roads. Need something that will inspire confidence up front. Thanks!

[@manybikes]

@@fmscott2 Mitas XT+ is great. manybikes.company.site/products/Mitas-ENDURO-TRAIL-XT-20-Road-80-Off-Road-Tires-p590057705

[@biru3853]

Thank you Mr Mr. Kyle, really apreciated the effort to put up this kind of review

[@manybikes]

Glad it was helpful!

[@armourmendia6730]

Super hard and great work. Thanks for this video appreciated your efforts.

[@manybikes]

Glad you liked it! Its a labor of love for sure!

[@brandenhellman4381]

I sent this to all of my ADV buddies to help them purchase, and guilty-full-honesty, also to kinda brag about picking the Scorpion Rally’s on previous trips. ;-) GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!

[@manybikes]

Branden Hellman Ha! Ha! Ha! It was an amazing tire on the dirt. On the fast highway - not the best ;) Pirelli Scorpion Rally Tire Steps Out at 65 mph CFR1000L Africa Twin TC OFF. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqLbYpqCmtSDh6M

[@brandenhellman4381]

Kyle Bradshaw what you did is a dream job! I would love to test tires out and the dedication and time you put into this has paid off enormously as it is a terrific review and video. I’m not trying to sharp shoot, I wish there was a little bit more information on the Scorpion Rally and a little bit more time on it in the video. I have taken that tire to at least 90 miles an hour on the highway and I have comfortably and slowly increase my lean angle on it to where I felt fine but others said they thought I was on a slick on my 990. Once the pilot has excepted a little bit of squish, a little bit of give as the knobs flex, I feel very confident in this tire and it is my go to front for everything off-road. The rear just hooks up but wears far too quickly. I will try a Scorpion Rally front w a Motoz Rallz 140 rear for my next BDR. STOKED!!!!!! Thanks again Kyle. You are an ADV Peeeeemp.

[@seisamigos397]

Nice if you are a sand rider. Can you do the same sequence on gravel/forest roads from your other videos?

[@manybikes]

Yes, that is the plan! Stay tuned...

[@paulvanreenen6986]

Great review Kyle & the crew! It would be awesome if you could edit a still photo of the tread pattern at the beginning of each brand. That way a non-expert (like many who are following) can get a better understanding of the pattern characteristics. I ride a behemoth Yamaha XT1200 Super Tenére and did not care for the E07 Dakars. Have just fitted the Motoz Tractionator GPS.... We shall see.. 💪

[@manybikes]

Great idea! I really like it...

[@CommieHunter7]

In the TKC80 section maybe make it more clear which tire goes with which comments. I had to back and compare, I thought you both had the same tire and was really confused.

[@manybikes]

Got ya! I jumped from bike to bike and tried to use mostly "my feedback" to keep it consistent. Your suggestion is noted for future dual test videos. Thanks for watching. - Kyle

[@JMaggs31]

What would you choose between the TKC80's or the Bstone AX41? Did you do any on street riding with either of those tires?

[@manybikes]

Yes, I have worn out may sets of both the TKC80 and the AX41. I prefer the AX41 as they are more stable and give great feedback. Off Road the AX41 looks more modern and more aggressive... but they do perform similarly off-road. Either one will work great for you. - Kyle

[@epmrealtyericmccormack6534]

Where did you get that cool Arai lid?

[@manybikes]

Anywhere Arai is sold ;)

[@robrosielle9658]

Hi great video but not sure if I'm correct but the tire mentioned as a "Pirelli Scorpion Rally " looks like a Pirelli MT 16

[@manybikes]

Nope… it’s a rally. The original. Don’t think they are making it any longer though. Tough to find!

[@manybikes]

It's this guy right here in the 140/80-19 www.chapmoto.com/pirelli-scorpion-rally-bias-rear-tire.html

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

Only problem with the video, the K60 scout only has the center strip on the larger variants, the smaller/thinner ones don't and would likely get much better grip overall.

[@manybikes]

Yes, the K60 without the center strip is a great tire. It is better everywhere but I wear it out really quickly on my 950 Super Enduro. Like 2500 miles. It is a great rear tire, I am not a fan of the front tire though.

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

@@manybikes Super fair. But all the people on lighter dual sport bikes looking for tires come across only stuff for bigger bikes. Not too many videos talking about tires on stuff like a klx300 or drz400. Maybe something for the tw200 guys even. Just more dumb raccoon thoughts.

[@CPT_IDPS]

Cool video, had some fun with my 390 adv today and thought it would probably be more fun with better tires. Thank you for your work.

[@manybikes]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yes... tires do make a big difference! I got a chance to rip my 390 Duke vs an Adventure a few weeks back and it was awesome! Check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqq4gp94ha-BkLM

[@rohrjewelry]

great job as usual on the video thank you

[@manybikes]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@KTravelet1]

I'm set on either the Motoz Adventure or Rallz for the rear. Any idea how the wear compares especially with the new tubeless Rallz with the bigger spaced lugs? I'm still unsure on the front tire though, any suggestions? I'm looking for on-road near TKC80, off-road better than TKC80, and better wear than TKC80. Thanks so much! -Another SoCal Kyle on big KTM

[@manybikes]

If you’re looking for ultimate performance go the RallZ on the rear... if you want longevity go Adventure.

[@hillkiran]

A few thoughts: 1- I take it the Pirelli Scorpions were the best of the bunch? Did I miss the rankings? 2- What are the chances you could do a video comparing mismatched tires? Like the best overall rear tire seems to be the RallZ- what’s the best front? What are some other mixes? 3- you should compare the bikes and the tires - tho that might upset some people, (like me if Africa Twin doesn’t come out on top) and that might also be a complex matrix of comparisons

[@manybikes]

Yes. Yes. and Yes. 1- Scorpions were 100% the best "dirt bike tire" 2- I have a list of mixed front and rear tires that I like... but have not done anything with it. I really like the TrailMax Mission Front + TKC70 Rocks Rear and the Motoz RallZ Rear + Bridgestone AX41 Front. 3- As for bikes, they are very different. If you watch the tire test videos... "how I ride" each bike is very different. The AT is WAY better in the twisties than my KTM. But the KTM is WAY easier to ride off-road. The CB500X was "light" and I could "flat foot" so what was an obstacle on the big bikes I walked over with the little bike. They all work differently, that is for sure!

[@hillkiran]

@@manybikes I have the Rallz rear and the Dual Venture front now. (I mean bike is in the shop getting a new front end after I went down a hill too fast) But I'm going to Mexico hopefully on a RallZ rear and a Dual Venture front. I'll try the RallZ rear and AX41 front next.!

[@hillkiran]

I mean I want to put the Scorpions on, but I also like to keep up in the twisties.

[@manybikes]

@@hillkiran Pirelli Scorpion Rally Tire Steps Out at 65 mph CFR1000L Africa Twin TC OFF kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqLbYpqCmtSDh6M

[@Edsrandomthingschannel9295]

Good extensive vid with lots of samples! What if you did a mix? As in one brand or model on the back and another on the front?

[@manybikes]

Great idea! I have actually done that with several tires. Have not yet published any of those mis-match videos.

[@mattbarrois8675]

So which tire would you recommend for the trans America trail if you had to choose only 1 to make it coast to coast on?

[@manybikes]

Motoz Desert HT is choice #1 and the Rallz #2

[@mattbarrois8675]

@@manybikes thank you for the response keep up with the great videos hopefully one day we can meet up on the trail

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

Hay mate Paul from Australia, I talked to you about the GoldenTyre GT723 , I spooned up last week . I have ran the K60, 805,804, and Motoz ADV, Desert HT & Rallz as well in recent few years . So best rear I have had so far has been the Rallz ( for all conditions) a fantastic rear tyre . Front I cannot get past the Pirelli M21 Rallycross . ( it’s a freak of nature tyre that works fantastic in ALL conditions. The GoldenTyre GT 723 is not as good on gravel roads and the Rallz . It has great 👍 forward momentum but tends to skip out ( then bite again ) unlike the Rallz that’s progressive. On Asphalt the GoldenTyre 723 is VERY sticky and I road it in a extremely heavy downpour, was great 👍 ( even done your trick and gunned it to see if the back would let go but it didn’t. So on road as good as the Rallz , off road ( on gravel and lose surfaces - some sand ) not as good . Will get back to you about the GT performance on single track steep hill climbs and muddy conditions and durability. Regards Paul

[@manybikes]

Epic feedback Paul! Thank you for taking the time to follow-up and get back to me with your findings. Very impressive... The RallZ really is a fantastic tire. Funny you mention the MT21... for the longest time my favorite set-up was the MT21 in the front and the D908RR in the rear. Expensive... but it worked really well. Looking forward to your more "long term" review. Thanks for sharing!! - Kyle

[@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449]

@@manybikes No worries 👍 always love your reviews and honest feedback. Keep up your fantastic reviews Regards Paul

[@autoltu1113]

Heidenau k60 in130/80-17 and probably some other dimensions doesn't have the center line, so I guess it would be much better off-road

[@manybikes]

Yes, I ran the non-center-strip on my KTM and loved it. -Kyle

[@rohrjewelry]

so what is your favorite 50/50 tire

[@manybikes]

Mike Rohr Motoz Tractionator Adv or RallZ OR the new Dunlop TrailMax Mission tires.

[@rohrjewelry]

@@manybikes Thank you i and others definitely value your opition!

[@manybikes]

Mike Rohr Happy to be of Service!

[@paoloconcina1632]

Thanks, Kyle for the awesome reviews again but you missed the Karoo 3

[@manybikes]

Yes Sir!

[@tahoehiker]

17:54

[@ryanmalone2681]

That intro clip with the Klim airbag inflating always makes me giggle.

[@manybikes]

Ha! Ha! That is my Sons favorite part ;)

[@ryanmalone2681]

@@manybikes He’s got a good sense of humor!

[@ruihenriques574]

Kyle , can you make a vídeo ,teaching how to drive in sand and deep sand?

[@manybikes]

Great suggestion! Pin it, get on the pegs and GO!

[@K7134-i8f]

It looks like you dont start to be able to play in the sand until the big block #9 and before that its like your just trying not to fall

[@manybikes]

Big bikes in the sand... That wash and I became friends ;)

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

This video rocks. I feel like I'm out there.

[@manybikes]

Woohoo! Thanks for watching!

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

Was waiting to hear what you were doing with the air pressure. Assuming that was 30 front and back.

[@NigelGriff]

He mentioned it, 30 front and back.

[@manybikes]

Yup, 30 psi front and rear and everywhere during these tests.

[@vsimileac]

People complaint that Motoz Adventure and Rallyz crack on big bikes because the rim is too narrow for this tire. GPS seems to be ok. Surely most of them running recommended pressure but... Any thoughts Kyle?

[@manybikes]

Yes, I have experienced the cracking. I rode one for 4k miles with the cracks... and it ran great the entire time. The GPS is a fantastic tire... just a little more road worthy than the Adv tire - which is amazing! I am a fan of Motoz tires!

[@advperu3547]

Hi Kyle! Which tire would you use for sands and dunes only, no roads, on a 790R?

[@manybikes]

ADV Peru Well... I’d call Skat-Trak Paddle Tires and order Up a 12 Viper Paddle Tire for your 790... Check this out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipWYq3iFqsaja5Y

[@advperu3547]

Kyle Bradshaw Thanks Kyle, I saw it! Unfortunately I live in Peru, and we do not have all the tire variety you have in States. However I could get my hands on some MotoZ, Mitas and Michelin tires. Which one would you pick, or at least the two best?

[@manybikes]

ADV Peru Pirelli Scorpion Rally is amazing in the sand, the Motoz RallZ or the Dunlop Rally RAID does well too...

[@advperu3547]

Kyle Bradshaw So I’ve spent all day checking with Pirelli, MotoZ, Dunlop and Michelin and Conti , to figure out what tires are available in Lima. Result: TKC 80, MotoZ Adventure and Mitas E-10. Which of the three would you pick?

[@manybikes]

ADV Peru I’m a huge fan of the Motoz tires in general. The Mitas E10 is fantastic too... instagram.com/p/B9ke7APHfTX/?igshid=1399usfmlckgn

[@fabienpics]

Like every time very good review 🏅🏅🏅🏅🏅

[@manybikes]

I appreciate that!

[@FranciscoCampelo]

Epic video man! I wish you'd use always the same bike =)

[@manybikes]

Maybe one day! It is interesting how some tires work much better on one bike or another...

[@FranciscoCampelo]

@@manybikes Yeah probably due to distribution of weight and differences in behavior of the suspension

[@veiledallegory]

Good review if you live on the beach.

[@manybikes]

Or here in So Cal near the dunes, sand washed and Death Valley. Totally relevant on the West Coast!

[@thomasreynolds1530]

@@manybikes or ANYWHERE IN FLORIDA LMAO thanks for the review. Trying to get an Indian FTR to cooperate on florida trails is dicey with the stock rubbers.

[@Schavo2008]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@manybikes]

Thanks for watching!

[@paoloconcina1632]

Apologize on the comment about missing the Karoo 3 review

[@manybikes]

No need to apologize! I was getting lost in all of the footage ;)

[@690adv2]

only a couple of tires are truly 50/50 the rest are not so its not a fair comparison. nevertheless great effort

[@manybikes]

690 adv So which tires do you deem “True” 50/50 tires?” I’m curious how your classification differs. Thanks for watching & commenting!

[@690adv2]

Kyle Bradshaw k60 scout vs tractionator gps both specified by there manufacturers to be 50/50 tire would be great comparison video but adding a tractionator rallz 90/10 to the mix its not fair. I subscribed to the channel great work 👍

[@pacodector]

your video is way too long! too much unnecessary stuff I couldn't watch all of it

[@manybikes]

Thank you for your feedback. I will work on it... Thanks for watching what you could.

[@pacodector]

@@manybikes thanks for your reply I hope I didn’t come across the wrong way