DeepCool’s new Vapor Chamber Cooler: The Noctua Killer for AM5?

[@LishtenbirdTech]

Finally, vaporware I can get behind.

[@pawisme]

😆

[@AugmentedGravity]

wdym?? vaporwave is goated

[@superior96]

Seems like you can already buy the Deepcool vapor chamber in Spain for 115€ in a couple stores "on sale". Meanwhile NH-D15 G2 is 150€ everywhere. Seems like a no brainer (though I'd still go for thermalright myself since I don't need higher performance). Arctic Freezer III 360 can be had for 90€ too, 240mm for 64, which I wonder how do they compare.

[@jepulis6674]

I would compare it to sub 20€ Freezer 36. If under 10C difference, these expensive coolers should just vanish out of the market.

[@h1tzzYT]

any competent 360mm AIO destroys nhd15 g2 and assuming you mount them as exhaust they reduce gpu temps as well, unlike any air cooler

[@Szabinger]

@@h1tzzYT I'm pretty sure the Phantom Spirit 120 would beat most of the fancy 360 AIOs.

[@h1tzzYT]

@@Szabinger no air cooler on the market is capable doing that...

[@Szabinger]

@@h1tzzYT Hmm maybe I'll have to test it myself.

[@OptimizingNetwork]

America to DeepCool: This is ILLEGAL Everyone else to DeepCool: Cool design, bro I had their 360mm water cooler, it was great

[@Sion-dq6xo]

With the NHD15 I think you can mount the fan on the back as well, improving memory compatability

[@oftankoftan]

you can. it's incredibly intuitive. I'm surprised he missed that.

[@sleepy_dobe]

Did you test the temps and noise level before and after mounting the front fan at the back of the cooler? Any difference?

[@Sion-dq6xo]

@ I haven't been using an nhd15 for a while (I was used the first gen one). Typically pulling air is less efficient I think but not by much. Usually the nhd15 is very quiet an very performant no matter what you do.

[@nazgulsenpai]

Same with the Thermalrite Assassin I paid $40 for on Amazon.

[@jonhall3688]

I have a D15S (which comes with one fan only by default) and mounted two others myself. Another 14cm fan from a U14S (higher rpm ceiling) and an F12 at the back. The net result is that the fans run at a lower rpm average overall because there are 3 of them now, so the peak noise is less. The noise floor is probably a decibel or two higher but it was already below the audible noise background in my pc room (33 dB or so) - so I don't notice it. This doesn't really help people looking to move the fan to the back for memory compatibility - but it's the closest comparison I have, apologies.

[@Dew4lk]

Deepcool definitely looks the best, and you can go for whatever ram you'd like. But i would always go for a version without the screen, dont want unnecessary software bloat on my system.

[@DaBombDiggidy88]

Got a deepcool iv before they were banned in the US and I really love the thing. You're getting about as close to a Noctua as you can get but it looks so much better for aesthetics.

[@sky173]

I still have my 5 year old Noctua D15 for my 9800x3D. Works like a charm.

[@hellsoul0]

did noctua send a free am5 bracket ?

[@adi6293]

​@@hellsoul0They always do if you have a receipt

[@zigziar]

Yup, my 9800X3D and offset bracket are coming this Saturday for my trusty old NH-D15

[@sky173]

@@hellsoul0 They did. I just upgraded to the 9800x3D, sent a copy of my receipt, and within a few days the brackets arrived. They wont fit my my motherboard. The cooler would hit the GPU. The mounting kit that came in the box works perfectly fine.

[@sarpp69]

Bro its just a piece of metal why would it malfunction.

[@davidepannone6021]

How the peerless assassin still 40 euro baffles me lol. You'd imagine they would increase the price by about 50% at least by now but nope.exe

[@dzello]

For the same reason you're talking about it. By being well below the reasonable price, they stand out significantly more and sell significantly more.

[@jevc900423]

Waiting for royal preytor and the other "high end" model suposed to top previous king - Phantom Spirit. Have not seen any review, hope hardware canucks makes a new round up of top dogs + thermalright OP coolers.

[@v0ldy54]

Gives a perspective on how overpriced other brands are...

[@Godmode_ON24]

Cool, I'll still take a thermalright (phantom spirit or peerless assassin) for less than a third of the price of the Noctua and Deepcool ones.

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

Thermalright master race 🤘😎🤘

[@Szabinger]

I replaced my Arctic LF III 240 with a Phantom Spirit 120 SE, and I'm so happy with it. This cooler is completely silent while destroying any AIO.

[@masterkamen371]

Or a $20 Arctic Freezer 36. Keeps my Ryzen 5 5600X at 15 to 20°C above room temperature while it's pulling 70W.

[@Godmode_ON24]

@@masterkamen371 True, that's a great one too. I feel like those two options are good for any CPU depending on the wattage. Anything costlier is overkill (or only has better looks) and anything cheaper, you might as well keep the included cooler.

[@jaxbade]

​@@Szabinger What kind of CPU are you using? Low thermal package, I'd expect, if you were using a LF3 240? 🤔

[@St0RM33]

You should have tested the NH-D15 as well to see how much difference it has now

[@pankothompson5903]

Noctua is so expensive it is almost getting into ProSiphon Elite territory

[@N3v3r_S3ttl3]

They're expensive. However, if we ignore the cooling performance, they're quite and quality build is great. Also you pay a bit for their after sale, you can ask them for new mountings for new CPUs generations if you still have the receipt of the cooler.

[@hameed]

Noctua has lost the plot. Their price and brownness used to be tolerable because they were that good. But the competition is way too strong now for them right now

[@derekschommer1465]

@@hameedthat's kinda like saying why buy an audi when the jetta exists

[@masterkamen371]

​@@N3v3r_S3ttl3when is fan noise even a factor? I have all Arctic fans in my rig and all I can hear is the wind noise from them, but even that is irrelevant when the HDD is five times louder.

[@hameed]

@@masterkamen371 Fan noise is a factor for a lot of people. I keep my build around ~25dba, I dont want it to hear a sound from it when it's idle That said, noctua *barely* has a noise advantage at this point. They barely have ANY advantages.

[@V4zz33]

I'm using my Noctua NH-D15 since 2017, and now I can get a free mounting bracket to put it on the 9800X3D when it becomes available again... I'll stick with Noctua.

[@crion88]

I would like to add that the new G2 Noctua fans are great, and I just bought a complete G2 set for my computer and threadripper cpu cooler. Sometimes I wonder if the computer is on and the screen turns on when I move the mouse. :)

[@labmasterx5599]

What cooling system do you have for the CPU/GPU? Also can you hear them when on peak work usage?

[@dylanmonahan5909]

The G2 fans use a tuned pair (Fan A, Fan B) that helps to eliminate resonances and tunes out some higher pitched whining when being slammed. Fans like this on some of the other twi tower coolers would probably narrow the gap... and still be a decent value proposition.

[@Decenium]

for the Noctua, I would just 3D print a top plate, and I love the brown and beige, its just iconic, you know you got a quality item when you see those colours.

[@honestaussie5064]

That fan height adjustment mechanism is very nice.

[@techluvin7691]

Thermalright is a major player that these expensive coolers cannot compete with.

[@pandora1037]

That's why those reviews don't use Phantom Spirit 120 SE, which is the best cooler they have at the moment

[@MrBalrogos]

​@@pandora1037have no clue

[@labmasterx5599]

You forgot the thermal right phantom spirit 120 evo ^^

[@FEARmeify]

@@labmasterx5599 If you look at the reviews, the SE is better. It has basically the same temperatures and lower noise.

[@Cynic_6489]

yep. very satisfied with how my PA120 Mini cools my 5700X

[@Zdenecek]

Actually, I like the look of Noctua coolers. I'm a proud owner of both G1 and G2.

[@408civettethreat]

Once again your review knocked it out the park (baseball term) Thanks for taking your time to create such great content over and over ❤ 🍻

[@alkestos]

More air coolers should move to vapor chamber imo.

[@ThisIsMeArnold]

They will

[@sleepy_dobe]

Personally, I like the brown colour from Noctua. It's unique and is a "fresh" colour from the typical black or white that's used for almost every other part in a PC. My D15 has been sitting in my PC for coming to 3 years and I still find it very good-looking, with or without my RGB lights on.

[@LedNe0nDevil]

Waiting to get the Cooler Master new v8 GT , and I don't even have a platform to mount it to, just want it. Please test it when it comes out next year!

[@iyaramonk]

I still have my 12 year old Noctua D14 with new fans since the old ones didn't support pwm. Noctua still had fair pricing back then. D15 costs 3 times as much today.

[@gagarin777]

The contact surface on D14 is a little small, but it's still decently performing cooler... if you just don't have to do anything around it. That design of fins acting like a saw... whoever came up with that should be fired.

[@rreacherr]

Great video, would be good if you could include clockspeed in the results and noise normalized tests as well.

[@MrAnbros]

The timing of this couldn't be any better for me.

[@KAL-589]

Is the centre fan still proprietary on the Deepcool? That was a dealbreaker with the original Assassin 4.

[@davvehallberg]

I like the Deepcool one the best, it looks like a modern aircooler for those of us that want the modern look but still prefer the stability of aircooling!!

[@jamesm568]

I would use both depending on the type of build. I get outstanding better support and updated parts from Noctua.

[@jgorres]

I would love to see the same comparison with an Intel 13/14-900K since they put out more heat!

[@oldewolfe6968]

I have their AK500... Have had that since I got the 5800X3D and am currently Running it on my 7800X3D.... I get more Noise outta the Montech Case Fans and the 4080 Super than I do the CPU Fan... Kinda wish they had an Add On Cover Plate for the Cooler with a Screen, but I was looking at Simple and keeping the RGB to a Minimum, who knew they'd be going LED Screens shortly afterward...

[@Ruufoos]

Remember guys,if you are not a fan of the Noctua 'brown' color,I'm sure they are going to release a Chromax Black version as they always do. If you can't wait,they already have and sell Chromax Black covers and different color insets which will fit this G2 NH-D15.🤙

[@delatroy]

Upgrading to AM5 and going to reuse D14 using new bracket. Noctua rocks

[@Appalling68]

Excellent review, son. Thank you very much for the hard work. Well done!

[@Vladek16]

22:02 good thing is that the "black" (more like dark grey) is comming soon 😄 The Chromax fans are coming in Q1 and the Chromax NH-D12 G2 is coming in Q2 👍

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I compare all air coolers to Thermalrights stuff tbh. The Assassin line is so good, and such good value, I really don't even think about other brands tbh.

[@peterjansen4826]

I don't ujnderstand the desire to have the heatpipes covered. Aestehtics are highly subjective but from a functional point of view, why would you cover it up? Wasted materials, isolation for heat radiation (minor detail but better leave it naked). I am with you on the spring-mechanism being a bit of a turnoff. I have the oridinal AM4 D15.

[@bluewave2432]

i wish deepcool could come back to the US. I love all their cooler designs and performance. We hit one of the good ones....

[@CrazyTechLab]

They need to stop breaking sanctions and selling stuff to Putin... That's why most reviewers no longer look at their stuff, myself included

[@itisabird]

They were sanctioned for providing components for the Russian army, so it will take long time until they appear there again.

[@MeguRED]

Put brown fans into a case with dark tinted TG panel and run purple RGB colour, no more brown.

[@McBane.]

Awesome upload tyvm! Any chance of doing a review of the newer single tower air coolers?

[@Kneedragon1962]

Question : You are testing open air, not a closed case, and your motherboards are laying flat ~ which they generally don't in a finished case. I think the effects of this on the Noctua with heat-pipes would be fairly small but the vapour-chamber rig, I'm not so sure about. Not saying it doesn't work or it's no good ~ I'm saying you mileage may vary. Also might say, an open air test bench like what you have there, in a climate controlled room ~ that is a really best-case test for an air cooler. It doesn't get any more positive for an air cooler than that. And before anyone asks, I am not a liquid cooling fan. I do intend to buy an NH-D15 G2 to go in my 9950X rig which Santa is due to give me in late December ~ That's the middle of heat-wave summer here in Australia. Hence my interest in your test.

[@michallaciak]

Would be nice to see Dark Rock Elite vs NH-D15 v2 here as well ^^

[@emilemil1]

I would love a quick sound profile test. Some coolers are technically quiet in dB but have annoying motor, bearing or harmonic noises.

[@Quettesh]

Noctua is also using those metal springs. I hate custom fan mounts, it might be difficult to mount different fans.

[@fajaradi1223]

It's not a problem that a deliberate duct tape can't solve

[@Saji_0]

@@fajaradi1223 Ahh yes, every problem can be fixed with duct tape

[@jonathanellis6097]

I like the brown and the industrial looks of the noctua, the price is harder to stomach. They do need to improve the fan clips and use something a bit more premium and easy to use, especially considering the price.

[@N0N0111]

MID week upload, OMG yes!

[@slavkorulit]

I didn't like Noctua brown'ish at the beginning, but with time i started to understand it and accepted it. This is their own recognizable style and without it it wouldn't be Noctua. People/users need to "grow up" for the Noctua:)

[@kettusnuhveli]

I personally think that the chromax black Noctua coolers with their heat pipes poking out look way better than any of those plastic covers or screens, hope they will never cover them up!

[@ebrahimsalman2152]

should have tested phantom spirit with 7 heatpipes or ps evo with better fans

[@RavTokomi]

I imagine the Assassin VC would be quite a bit cheaper without the screen gimmick. Hope they release a basic version too.

[@AshLordCurry]

Only problem with deep cool is it doesn't sit as flat as thermalright or noctua. The cooler looks absolutely amazing but they don't perform as well as other options for the price. I'd rather go AiO at that price point.

[@alkestos]

Especially when arctic liquid freezer 3 420 is under 100e here.

[@constantinosschinas4503]

Yes but air coolers are 100% trouble free and with easy maintenance. Not all users like liquids around or in their machines, or change liquids to retain performance.

[@Gargentwitchongargee]

Sad is that Americans cant get that

[@sys-administrator]

Sad is that European countries don't ban anything related to Russia. When it affects them the most.

[@sephondranzer]

@@sys-administrator Correct, hence they don’t go around sanctioning Russia willy nilly. Not to make this too political, but the arrogance that you can sanction the world over every difference is insanely egotistic and destructive.

[@Gargentwitchongargee]

@@sys-administrator true

[@alkestos]

I personally think the sanctions are stupid.

[@JOKEMMM]

Elaborate why you find them useless? ​@@alkestos

[@NzStumpyTech]

would have liked to see the be quiet Dark Rock Elite in the line up. but very interesting video.

[@xcom9648]

I would still buy the deepcool cooler even if it was a bit worse then the noctura just because it looks 10 times better, that it is even better and in black is very impressive.

[@4zims]

I am a big fan of Thermalright products.

[@toby1248]

The brown color is free advertising for Noctua. They stand out like a sore thumb in every photo of a high end PC that gets posted on the Internet. That's why they will never change it regardless of what their fans say

[@Plagues138]

Looks cool.... But man, I really wish the screen had more data it could pull. Gpu temps etc

[@Zordonzig]

For being slightly cheaper I much prefer the DeepCool. Looks better, comes with a info display, and performs nearly as well. Just wish I could buy it in my country. 😞

[@Flapdr01]

Did you try the noctua fans on the deepcool?

[@der8auer-en]

wouldn't fit unfortunately

[@Flapdr01]

@@der8auer-en that's too bad

[@saintthe7th]

Where there is will, there is a way @der8auer-en

[@MaFTB]

​@@Flapdr01Yeah, sadly. The noctua fans are held in with wire clips that slot into the heat fins on the cooler and hook onto them. The deepcool is completely flat, so it wouldn't hook on

[@JazekFTW]

I wish deepcool would release this assassin for STRx4 and SP3 sockets… would be a beast for the threadripper platform

[@eriklarsson3188]

The Austrian Germans have a great product, but honestly, Thermalright (and Deepcool) offers stiff competition and often times perform better, and Thermalright do so to less than half the cost of a Noctua cooler. Of course, there's added value to the Noctua such as free brackets etc. *Added* Noctua risk pricing themselves out of the market at this point.

[@masterkamen371]

And then the German Germans make a five pack of fans that costs as much as a single Noctua, while giving about 80% of the performance. All the same with CPU coolers, work with AMD and Intel right out of the box and offer crazy good performance for no money at all.

[@game-tea]

​@@masterkamen371exactly lol, Arctic is on top of the cooling game right now in my opinion. LFIII 360 is stupid good and cheap, and hell the argb version looks pretty good too

[@v0ldy54]

They're still all made in China, I might at least understand part of the cost if they were made in Germany or Austria but nope, literally no way those prices make sense.

[@AdamKafei]

This is a really good comparison, I would have liked to have had the NH-D15 in both positions rather than the possibly unfair offset only, would you mind making the same video for AIO coolers so we can compare them directly?

[@dylanmonahan5909]

It's been done using the Artic Freezer 3 360 and naturally it beats all air coolers including the D15 G2. That's just the nature of the beast. Price difference is less of an argument if considering the high end for Air. You'd just go water ... unless you want a long service life solution, I guess... but these $30-50 coolers are pretty damn good value propositions for AMD CPU cooling.

[@BarsMonster]

I personally don't mind visible heat pipes. Better give me moar performance :-)

[@VanBurenPhilips]

Oh this is finally coming out? I've been waiting for this, but with DeepCool's bad news earlier this year I thought it might be RIP'd.

[@StroggKingu]

Fortis 5 should regularly be on half price discounts, or at least it is in Poland. I hope you make this test for intel too.

[@Aruneh]

I build a new pc like every 4-5 years, and don't really touch it after building, other than cleaning dust out. In that case, a slightly annoying fan mounting is no big deal. I also don't use windows, so the looks don't matter at all. I have a Noctua in my current PC, but if I were to build a new one now, I would likely go for Thermalright. My old Q6600 had a thermalright, and that worked very well also.

[@tkgg]

I don't mind the colours of the Noctua stuff but they're seriously shooting themselves in the foot when it comes to attracting new audiences. I bet there is a huge market out there for noctua stuff with RGB even though I personally prefer having a solid panel on the side and don't really care about lighting. Different colours would be a good start though.

[@alphasixty1316]

In my experience, Noctua are the fans for the current build, the next build and the build after that.

[@Hybris51129]

It's how you take that $150 price tag and start really cutting it down to where it is a better value and performer than the cheaper coolers.

[@chillz739]

@@Hybris51129150$ is crazy a phantom spirit is sub 40$ more or less everywhere the rest of the cash could be used for a component upgrade

[@v0ldy54]

@@Hybris51129 no way it's ever going to be a better value than a 40$ cooler, plenty of fans out there that are 95% as good as Noctua for a fraction of the price.

[@Hostilenemy]

Noticed your HWInfo64 version is almost a year old :).

[@UbergamR447]

great video! thank you :)

[@Thisandthat8908]

my whole outer setup "feels 2005". You know, metal case, no window, no RGB. But quite fast inside. And no water cooling because i really can't be bothered :) And that is a good point. Window or not, you just put it in and let it run. You mount it once, be that nicer or less nice, and then don't need to touch it for years. Or at least to separate the fans from the block. So it doesn't really matter if the one mounting in years takes a 2 minutes longer. Even though i don't care about it, Noctua being stubborn about the color feels indeed unnecessary.

[@JasonMendoza-hd3ce]

ambient temperature rise doesn't cause a linear rise in cpu temps, just deducting the difference is better than nothing but it's not perfect. one degree ambient difference can cause a 1.5 degree change in cpu temp

[@408civettethreat]

It seems like the brown is noctua there signature even tho most ppl don’t like it. And if they did make it in all black, I’m guessing it would bring the cost in material down making it more affords 🍻 😊

[@brzroman]

would be nice to see vapor chamber close up, purely from curiosity point

[@cobalt49]

I really like the Noctua brown, but I'm one of those weirdos who wishes I could still get a green PCB motherboard.

[@bambideluxe]

I still prefer enclosed cases with mesh venting so the visual design on the interior doesn't bother me at all. As long as it doesn't have RGB or if I can at least disable or pull out the RGB plugs then I' happy as long as the performance is there.

[@alexkayman8483]

Надо было вертиляторы от Noctua поставить на Deepcool для эксперимента. Получился бы топ1! 😁👍

[@C-M-E]

As much as I enjoy feeling like a cheapskate in this category, the ThermalRight Peerless Ass Spirit really is a 'budget wonderkind' with one complaint; it attracts dust like mad vs everything else in the case. It's worth having two on hand--and definitely affordable enough to do so--for cleaning every few months and repaste while you're at it. Could also be the extreme summers we have here, but being brand-agnostic doesn't seem to matter here for paste duration. Definitely does not like the graphite pads though.

[@darkkingastos4369]

I'm curious were you using the preapplied thermal paste that came with the coolers or were you using Thermal Grizzly?

[@chrisbullock6477]

I'd be interested in the 3D-V Cache version. I have the 7950X-3D and knowing there's lower wattage it would be nice to see if a Liquid Cooled AIO is necessary.

[@dqniel1755]

So basically, for me anyway, get a $30 Thermalright cooler for 95% of the performance and 20% of the cost. If I want absolute cooling performance without resorting to custom loops, I'll get an AIO for $140-150.

[@michaelschaub]

Did I miss the comment regarding standard-fan compatibility of the new Deepcool? Air coolers work pretty much forever. The only issue you can have is a fan getting loud or breaking. If I need to rely on the availability of a proprietary fan especially of a company that might be affected by sanktions.... this is a no-go. I do like the new fan mounting systems. But if you aren't a reviewer, this is job you do once. If the price for that is an impossible fan replacement, then my priorities are different....

[@jamesb.walker9177]

I would have been very nice to be able to hear de FAN Picth on the coolers...

[@Mauntium]

I have a very controversial hot take on the brown color scheme of the fans: You're supposed to be looking at your monitor. (yes, I have a windowless case)

[@TheOmenXXX]

I don't know why DerBauer is complaining about exposed heat pipes on the Noctua, for just another 30 Euro on top of the 150 you already paid you can get some sweet Chromax covers in a variety of colours as long as it is white or black and then in a year and a half when they finally release a black version of the new fan at 40 euro a pop, bobs your uncle, a completely black version of the new NH-D15 that will have 'only' cost around 260 euro !

[@PainX187]

reminds me a bit of the dark rock pro a few years back noctua level performance but the looks are just miles ahead imo

[@optimus6858]

nice comparison 👌

[@rulik007]

Cooler Master anounced V8 3DVC (vapor chamber) year ago but did not released yet

[@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi]

I have not use air coolers for a very long time cause where I am. even on cloudy days and on raining season is hot, more than i like. BUT i have work with noctua and thermalright on client builds. i did see 1 before the ban from deepcool. i sad this products wars is hard from users and brands. BUT if there is a chance to get on those again will be nice. Air coolers have walk a long road. noctua still the best and i LOVE the brown color. but other brands are step up the game when design are concern. one is deepcool on all categories. If can cool.. for me, it can look what ever they want. the incredible is how compact the deepcool is. and that is what is important. Roman get bequiet. i think you make one some time ago.

[@cracklingice]

I prefer the easily replaceable metal wire over plastic bits that break and generally are not available stand alone.

[@kel5423]

A CPU cooler has to be easy to clean. The DeepCool's cooler looks like it would be difficult to get the dust out.

[@ShinobuFX]

No cat test in this one? :( How am I supposed to figure out which air cooler is better without the cat approval?

[@ryansais13]

I don't mind the brown color but would go black if the price is the same. The metal clips for fans NEED to be replaced though. They are such a pain in the butt.

[@ziptieracer]

Still no Deepcool in the US. It's a shame. I was getting ready to buy their CH160 case when the sanctions hit. Hopefully the sanctions end. This cooler in that case with an FE card.

[@Natsuxc74]

It's objectively better for Black to get more sales because it matches with most PC component and other electronics anyway. But Noctua's Brown is very unique, people pay for that special value. I'd say, just make a black version or a cap, Noctua. Lmao.

[@Ruufoos]

The Noctua NH-D15 G1 has a black version and a cap which will fit the G2 and I'm sure Noctua is going to release a black G2 NH-D15.

[@PetervanderKruys]

I love the brown colour, especially because they rock. Same as the heat pipe ends, a cover looks neat but if this blasts right past it then why bother?

[@ChaitanyaShukla2503]

Interesting, I remember Cooler Master was also showing a VC based CPU cooler wondering what happened with that. Also could you source Cryorig cooler for review.

[@cyntist4120]

This shows my lack of understanding on vapor chambers: does the orientation of the vapor chamber matter?

[@rulik007]

10:50 There a lot of coolers with different names and most of them seems to be made by thermalright Silentware is looking like one of them

[@twinjuke]

🏆MORE of this kind of reviews please! 🏆Great ammo for choosing the best value air cooler! An AK620 would have been an interesting participant as well though.

[@bacphan7582]

How about Thermalright killer ?

[@brandonupchurch7628]

At least in North America nothing beats the price to performance of the Thermalright Phantom Spirit the regular version with the heatpipes covered and all metal mount hardware, always around $35 on Amazon. I don't see where any of these more expensive air coolers really performs better enough to justify their price and why you should buy them over a cheap AIO that'll keep high wattage CPUs out of the thermal throttle zone.

[@techluvin7691]

There won’t be one because nobody can compete on price.

[@JBrinx18]

It'd have to be a Thermalright AIO killer too

[@Ironclad17]

That US ban still in place?

[@Saiohleet]

Am I the only one that looks at this coolers prices and thinks this is complete insanity? My new AC freezer III 360 RGB was 77€ on artic aniversary, this is twice price for less perf.