Defender Showdown! | V8 vs.Td5

[@TirsbaekTV]

To all those complaining: This video is NOT monetised! Therefore, as long as we credit Moog and provide an iTunes link in the description, we are allowed to use this music! And to all those taking it so seriously: This video is simply in the name of some silly fun with cars, if you don't like it - of course leave a dislike but otherwise; leave, or at least think before you type! There are some seriously inane comments out there...

[@xPUR3xSHOTZx]

Start monetising as moog said he doesn't mind his music being use

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Skiballas the Great UK and Denmark

[@MavAuto-Pete]

Just don't like the fact they're trying to be poor presenters of cars be nice to know a little bit more info about them

[@henryellis154]

@@MavAuto-Pete alright pete nobody wants to know stats of a landrover as theyre not meant for speed and performance :) if u do u must be pretty sad

[@MavAuto-Pete]

@@henryellis154 well you can't exactly have something with about 10lbs of torque if you needed something to go through a field or you were competing in mud climbing events like people do in Land Rovers. Not only that not saying it is for Speed or performance but why are they then comparing a V8 and the TD5 and not a 2.25. Just merely stating a fact that when you are comparing things like this people do actually have a hobby and race and do things like hill climbing events in these cars.

[@BelloBudo007]

Enjoyable to watch 2 blokes who love their 4x4's, putting themselves and the cars through their paces.

[@josephscott9143]

Going through a slightly wet, slightly muddy field at 20-30mph is not putting anything through its paces. A Peugeot 206 could do that.

[@BelloBudo007]

Ha, ha. A Peugeot 206 eh? I'd love to see that.

[@josephscott9143]

Well, like I said, it's a slightly muddy, slightly wet field. I maintain that pretty much any FWD or 4WD car would make it around there with ease.

[@MavAuto-Pete]

@@josephscott9143 totally agree with you

[@oscarzt1652]

0:45 is that MOOG's track from MCM?

[@Blackfourtrak]

you've got directional tread tyres vs non directional tyres, to do comparisons like this you've gotta keep tyres identical as a tyre is the most essential part of a vehicle to determine it's performance on the ground.

[@Stormtuning]

You should try this with some of our TD5 software. We did Discovery 2 4.6 V8 vs TD5 and after we'd finished we left the V8 for dead :)

[@rashfacekillah]

epic video. would love to get a D90 or D110. do you think that your tire difference would have anything to do with it.. the V8 is running muds and the TD5 is running all terrains. cheers guys

[@charlkorb2717]

excellent video guys!!!!! Keep the swearing out though for good fun for all... Cheers!

[@Defender-Guy]

Great video- good to see some drone footage. I went through the whole V8 vs. diesel thing, although I was trying to decide whether to go 200 or 300 Tdi or V8. Ended up going V8- my '85 Ninety originally had a 3.5 with twin carbs & a 5 speed, but it's now automatic (from a Discovery 1) and 3.9 V8i (also from a D1). The main reasons I went V8 are sound- the diesels are so noisy- and that lovely V8 burble. I went auto because the car is eventually heading to the U.S. Virgin Islands, which are pretty steep- so I'd be wearing clutches quite quickly. What is the ratio of your V8 transfer case? Mine is 1:2, which is great on the highway but not so good at lower speeds. Trying to decide whether to go 1:4 or 1:6...

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Paul K I belive it is a 1:6 ratio, but I haven't got the papers at hand from the guy who built it. I do like a low ratio and lots of toque at the wheels, compared to a higher ratio such as yours

[@Ahmad_shishani-2jz]

​@@TirsbaekTV I wanted to ask you with the same maintenance which land rover v8 engine will last longer? 3.9 or 4.0 or 4.6?

[@timhall9731]

Is this video back to front or are all your vehicles left hand drive.

[@davidh266]

which can tow more, fuel economy, things that affect the farmers, builders, tree surgeons

[@whitacrebespoke]

david houlihan same towing capacity in both I believe. I had a td5 after a 3.5 v8 series 3 and have to say the td5 was fractionally better in fuel but not massively

[@albertvella8821]

Hi if its possible can you please tell me if you have any videos related to the Defender TD5 air conditioner installation showing all the gas pipes/bolts /compressor and indoor unit preparation please. I just bought ac kit (used) and i could not find any guidance on how to install it step by step. Thanks in advance

[@finesoul677]

Albert Vella can't help but think you completely made this dribble up.

[@DanielSadjadian]

The V8 growl is so much nicer.

[@EdwinHenryBlachford]

Harry Potter vs Draco Malfoy

[@terrificspokesman7416]

Pls not Harry Potter

[@whigwood]

I loved my old V8. - the engine was described as "lazy". For that read - inefficient! But boy, what an engine note. I wonder what difference a decent muddy hill might have made to the performances.

[@MickR0sco]

V8 all the way. I had a TD5 disco then sold it for a V8. Miles smoother to drive as well and personally didn't think the TD5 was a well designed engine. How the injector harness was designed which let oil run through it and into the ECU was annoying.

[@whitacrebespoke]

michael ross td5 was ground breaking in its day but as you say had its bad points. It was the worst defender ever though. I had one that was well tweaked and 6months old. It drank fuel and was useless off road with all terrains on. Glad to have a 300tdi now.

[@dfcvda]

i`M AFTER A V8 dEC 2018 Great video..what are those plates oh and good drone work

[@TeamBoellehat]

Har i fået tilladelse fra moog/ mightycarmods til at bruge deres musik?? :) selvom sangene står beskrevet skal i spørge pga copyright...

[@danoflit]

what about a D-90 Iveco vs HS 2.8 TGV

[@MrPanzerproductions]

Where did you get the metal grill/guard behind your seat?

[@TirsbaekTV]

Came with the car. Legal requirement here in Denmark.

[@MrPanzerproductions]

What would it be called? it seems a strange thing to legally be required to have

[@atf343]

i believe it's required so things in the back won't fly and hit the rear of your head/passenger's head if the vehicle stops abruptly

[@lukepalmer2126]

How old are you guys and whats your insurance cost roughly?

[@Landy_Bill_Ex_Mil]

What did you do to get the td5 to sound so good? Love the v8!! Cheers

[@TirsbaekTV]

Back then it was just a straight through exhaust, but now it has a remap as well and it sounds even better! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ66iWqwnZihsJo

[@Landy_Bill_Ex_Mil]

@@TirsbaekTV awesome! Ill soon have my own defender and will definitely look into doing the same!

[@freqeist]

@burrrg yep I have a v8 disco but have been offered a v8 defender..

[@jedw]

WHO CARES about the times. Just listen to the V8! :D

[@TirsbaekTV]

+jedw We can all appreciate a good V8 ;)

[@daganzdaandere]

why no MT tyre?

[@300bhpton]

Fun vid. You guys should have used low range for the race however. Unless you had long stretches where you could get above 40mph for extended periods of time.

[@TirsbaekTV]

Thanks. There were a couple of long straights on the course so low range wouldn't have been a good idea

[@300bhpton]

No worries. Might make for a good comparison for another time however. I still think it'd probably be quicker (having raced round a number of fields myself in Land Rovers). But to be fair, I really don't know what speeds you were getting up to on the straights.

[@lukek3953]

By any chance, do you guys happen to know someone who sells "Defender" from UK and ship oversea? It's really easy to find Defender in UK but outside of UK. It's like finding "Waldo".

[@ianworley8169]

I assume this was before TD5 was remapped by StormTune? The TD5 shown in another video after being retuned would destroy the V8.

[@vulture6704]

Great vid! what kind of a jacket is that and where did you get it ? :)

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Mr Cat Thanks! Assuming you mean the green jacket, I got it in a Superdry shop a few years ago. Don't know if they still make it. Barbour also do similar jackets. The black jacket is a Danish Army issue from the Royal Life Guard.

[@vulture6704]

+TirsbaekTV Thanks man!

[@81two2door]

Cool Vid. Ive had a TD5 and a V8, both disco2's, V8 was fun but the TD5 was the bomb. Hope the burger didn't cost too much

[@lordfrazerirwin990]

Racing around a cornfield! Give the 90s something they are built for, heavy going and a few steep inclines.

[@TirsbaekTV]

We've done plenty of that too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4ilaKpvm5ihkNU

[@LoneWoodpecker]

Great vid, guys! How is the torque compared and how much fuel does the V8 need?

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Lone Woodpecker The torque is about the same, but the V8 pulls more than the TD5 in the lower revs, due to the turbo needing to spin, but around 300-310 newton meters. The V8 goes between 8-5 km/l (22-14 mpg), depends if it warm enough to drive with the windows down, and revs up (y) - Nisse

[@stormin_norman9884]

This is mighty car mods music...... copyrights???

[@promenteryrobbins]

Superb Test - fun video - this is what new Top Gear should be :)

[@TirsbaekTV]

+John Stokes Thanks!

[@carsandkids414]

Nice music from mighty car mods

[@te3data]

+David Ward Wonder if the asked Moog for the music? ;)

[@wilmarlubbe6554]

+David Ward And Jeremy Clarkson references.

[@Thuggedjiimhgkif]

+RidingWithBen Don't want to be a bitch but Moog said that he is happy anyone to use his music as long as they put links in the description and credit him for it.

[@te3data]

+Bobieses Smoff awesome in that case!

[@ohmygawdhey]

Love the channel, great videos. I have to ask, where did you get that Jacket? It looks badass. Barbour? Thanks in advance

[@TirsbaekTV]

+ohmygawdhey Thanks! The jacket is actually from Superdry, I got it in one of their shops :)

[@ohmygawdhey]

+TirsbaekTV Ahh, I see. Time to track one of those down i think. Driving my little BMW 1 series never felt the same as driving my dads old Land Rover Series 3 on the farm when i was younger. After watching your videos i sold the BMW and bought a Defender. Best decision i ever made!

[@TirsbaekTV]

+ohmygawdhey Haha brilliant! There's nothing quite like driving a Land Rover. Glad to see we influenced your decision!

[@mauricevanderveen5221]

great video guys! your channel would be big someday ;)

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Maurice Van der Veen Thanks Maurice!

[@ianmunro5163]

what model year is the td5?

[@4240cameron]

Which is the newer one the td5 or v8

[@TirsbaekTV]

+cameron-scott smith Td5 is newer. V8 is from the late 80's. Td5 is a 1999 model

[@4240cameron]

***** Thanks the designs are so similar

[@atahservices2840]

Defender automatics are rubish

[@TheRealWolfie159]

Keep up the good work Gents! Good to see landys being played with properly! Presuming they're both yours?

[@TirsbaekTV]

+TheRealWolfie159 Thanks! Yes, they belong to us :)

[@michaelnilsen7436]

danish reg. cars, but very well english speaking, if these two guys are actually a pair of danish farmers. Could be they have been doing agriculture in UK or Australia for a year or two, which is quiet common for young danish farmers. Please explain.

[@Markcain268]

put a 190bhp 3.9 v8 and 5 speed in it and you have a very versatile vehicle

[@charleebrown914]

v8 just for sound plus its more a modifyable engine if thatsa word evener, ive had bowlers and lightweights v8s and the v8 is the only way. sorry eveyone maybe I am too old skool.

[@topatudo4039]

which parents vc this?

[@luke12689]

Here in Africa. If you want to drive around town, and the odd occasion some dirt road, they love their V8's. If you want to drive 2500km into Mozambique or Namibia etc, td5 is the engine.

[@oStemandskasseN]

If you want to go anywhere, while smiling from ear to ear, you pick the v8. Otherwise, yes you pick the tractor.

[@captainclarke]

Smashing! I almost got confused with which channel I was watching with the MCM music! Treat the Td5 to a remap, it will fly! Then do a rematch!

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Captain Clarke Thanks! I'd love to get a remap done at some point if I ever have the money, I'm sure this won't be the end of this rivalry though...

[@xamskywalker]

shame you cant go all out cuz the defender roof is as stong as a match stick.. >racing with defender = need rollcage >Rover V8 has a whirlpool in its tank...

[@ollilehtonen6764]

Finnish Defense Forces uses the TD5 Defenders. They've been used and abused by us keen drivers for years and would barely be road-legal in the civilian world but they do work. They're far from a joy to drive but the keep rolling and rolling on.

[@pinkskud1]

Keep ya bloody thumbs out of the bloody steering wheel.

[@smooney82ify]

v8 sounds awesome great video guys keep up the good work

[@didib2663]

Very nice, had a lot of fun watching it!

[@grayzytube]

Chipped TD5, they are really nippy.

[@xxxenricop]

who has an automatic land rover anyway? crazy! despite this act of madness it's a nice video :-)

[@TirsbaekTV]

+xxxenricop I have thought of getting a LT95 gearbox, but still I do like cruising around with an automatic transmission (ZF 4-Speed). It was a fun day, and we will sure return to the same field, with new cars and improved LR's ;)

[@Reaper4367]

Top stuff fellas!Liam, you should owe Neils two burgers....one for each time HIS truck beat yours across the line :) Cheers for sharing and keep it up :)

[@axelcordes]

If I'm right v8 has MT's and the TD5 AT's - this will make a lot of traction difference...

[@G.ALNEAIMI]

I raced a 4.6 V8 swapped Landy in my 2.4 puma and the puma won because it was chipped to 174 bhp stage 3 tuning and a large intercooler and a K&N filter

[@TirsbaekTV]

+G ALNEAIMI Very nice! You should come join us for the next race ;)

[@j225ndg]

Im very surprised by that having owned a tuned 110 2.4 Puma and now owning a 110 with a 4.6 in it. My old puma wouldn't get anywhere close to my 4.6

[@CaptainD1990]

Turbo lag giving you a lack of low down power? blank off the EGR valve :D

[@naratores]

who won?

[@TirsbaekTV]

+olaru alex Maybe watch the video and find out....

[@samjaggard5139]

Subbed so glad I found this channel and also loving the Moog music

[@GregsMowing]

Man in glasses. Where are you from?

[@lastminutesolutions]

td5 has that british country vibe. v8 feels like an effort for potential buyers in florida

[@freqeist]

Why are or have you got lefty s?

[@kayedal-haddad]

TD5 vs. a Puma... what would you go for and why?

[@bradleycruse1996]

It looked to me like you locked the TD5 doffs..

[@mattyncamgamingh2537]

i want that v8 i have a td5 tomb raider and a 2012 grey and black x tec puma

[@TirsbaekTV]

+MattyNCamGaming h Lovely! I've always loved the X-Tech Defenders

[@big_darrol5069]

"big splash" hahahahaha come to Australia in the wet season. we will show you some real mud.

[@j-s.w7909]

My father's Ex-MOD 1986 110 N/A Diesel would just be left behind you two.

[@briancornish5990]

Muppets... Tell Melthoid to sort his thumbs or he will dislocate them.

[@roobroecktuur]

nice video keep up the good work if you do a tune up on your td5 you will surely win :)

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Tuur Roobroeck (tuurboo) Thanks, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens ;)

[@millobianco8963]

its funny that you used mighty car mods music and didnt even give them any credit ....

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Millo Bianco Apologies, normally I credit the music but apparently I'd forgotten on this one. Description has now been updated.

[@mattyncamgamingh2537]

yes i dont no what to get a v8 or td5 90

[@TirsbaekTV]

+MattyNCamGaming h Td5 is the more sensible option, and most likely better for everyday use, but if you've already got a Puma then why not get a V8 for some fun.

[@bikelifewill6483]

YEEEEEEES, that v8 makes me so HAPPY, even tho I'm 100% depressed

[@MavAuto-Pete]

Can't see nothing? try using the wipers and wash wipe🙄🤔😒

[@petermport]

Using might car mods music just earned you a dislike from me

[@AddyRyan66]

that v8 sounds like sex!!!

[@petertherealist7089]

Did he really say "the defender wasnt made to do this"

[@highdownmartin]

Can't be going that quick or the camera would have ended up on the floor

[@tomclarkson6078]

V8 defender and MCM music... Good combo!

[@xtristarx]

the V8 sounds superb!

[@paulcrump3437]

love the mighty car mods much :D

[@edvin884]

I know you guys looooove yourselves o camera, but it should be about cars. And please, less TOP GEAR stuff

[@atmm89]

an out door camera would have been nice

[@caelgreen8400]

I love hearing moogs music on another car show

[@Jimmy3305]

R u old enough to drive mate

[@meriatihan5271]

Both cars are awesome.

[@Speedycat]

oh yes that looked like fun --> subbed

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Engineer six (Engineer6) Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it :)

[@rabbitskinner]

I can't say "Rover v8" without smirking lol

[@hunterchartrand6646]

Thanks for giving mcm credit

[@Trinavara]

Isn't this in the UK? If so why are the Landys LHD? Or did that happen due to some photographic anomaly.

[@888johnmac]

+Trinavara.. not in uk, from the number plates Holland or germany I think

[@charliekilo8944]

Denmark. Close, but no cigar.

[@888johnmac]

ah well, now we know.. thanks

[@charliekilo8944]

888johnmac no probs :D

[@Trinavara]

888johnmac Ok thanks...

[@wirsitzmiau9863]

Thanks for a nice video!

[@Menditman2014]

V8 won and he won the free burger, but the fuel cost going around in the v8 must have been at least double of what the TD5 fuel cost. The Rover V8 was a nice engine just a pity in the Uk fuel is so expensive, so un less you are rich diesel all the way for land rovers. 👍

[@landroveradventure8624]

Nice boys Go beyond💪🏻👍🏻 upload more 🇬🇧👍🏻

[@TirsbaekTV]

+LRCH Club Thanks! We will be uploading more, don't worry! :)

[@mabisfab77paintball]

v8 is good but only if driver has the soft pedal touch for ice or mud or they bury themselves with the too much power at wrong time issue most v8 v12 get the td lag helps stop the lead foot driving effect but a better driver would have got closer to the auto v8 time did on such a easy surface but the v8 would most likely to win if the wallet can cover the fuel cost

[@reissabrahams875]

I've worked on the Defender 90 and 110 for 14yrs at Solihull building them on the production line,at least 30% of the vehicle get dispatched from the plant across the world with missing vital spot welds,death trap if they got involved in an impact,as we say at landrover the shitist 4x4 by far compared to our outside advertisement the best 4x4 by far,we laugh at our customers on how they're mugs conned on purchasing shit

[@jaimemalumbane4192]

Yes is true😊

[@jameslindley8318]

BETTER THAN ANY RADIO ! THAT V8

[@Mattvokes]

Nice mighty car mods music

[@cukkey]

For sound and performance V8 any day

[@brumrunner15]

try standard set ups!! more believable. don't care who wins, just make it real!!

[@DOGLOG17Gaming]

THIS IS AWESOME!!

[@TirsbaekTV]

+Tom Sudall Thanks! :)

[@williampeckham9838]

V8 sounds better but I think I'll get the diesel. Even though the V8 is better. Cheers guys

[@pachy444]

Diesels are way better. but unless you run Veg oil or similar then I'm afraid the diesel is using up plenty of fossil fuel (condensed dinosaurs) too. . as it's a byproduct of petrol production.

[@fjb4932]

pachy444 "...using up plenty of fossil fuel (condensed dinosaurs)... Lol. They're already dead, why do you want to save it ? Who are you saving it for ? Burn baby, burn !