Defining the Introvert/Extrovert Spectrum to Dumb-Dumbs

[@onlydavid]

For those wondering about the backwards/reversed audio. . . It says, Shan: This is where I was like… Dave:...Aaah, I got it... Shan: I really wish you’d made… Dave: Shan: …the colors… Dave: Shan: Reverse reverse… Dave: Shan: …reverse talk. Dave: I’m yelling at you in German. Shan: or reverse!

[@Owlsworthy]

Thank you so much 😂

[@kimmi9697]

I've accepted that I'm an NiFi, now I'm working on accepting that I'm SC/B(P). I actually went to doctors to fix my energy problem but they never found anything wrong with me. now I realize that's just my personality. by accept I mean strategize how to be socially "normal" despite my animals

[@maxidyrin]

Officially typed? If not there is a high chance that you are Fi/Ni instead of Ni/Fi, because its the most common type in societies.

[@Haannibal777]

There are many people who work alone. Writers, artists, even some athletes, scientists, etc. You just have to know yourself and build your life around it.

[@KayKayBayForever]

Yessss! I went to the doctor for energy problems too, and nope, nothing wrong. Just Play last (officially typed). NiTe, so pretty close to you.

[@Haannibal777]

@@KayKayBayForever I am play last, too. I am happiest when I am alone. I am now 47. Strangely enough I remember being more active when I was younger. I was into sports, too. Now I like to be alone while working or relaxing. Some social interactions from time to time is enough for me.

[@kellilee6124]

Same animal stack here (Ni/Ti). I totally understand. I’ve been wondering what is wrong with me for years - why I don’t have the energy so many seem to have. I went raw vegan for a few years - which did improve my physical energy - but not enough. I’m glad to have found OPS b/c now I know I’m not going to ever become energetic like Tony Robbins 😂😅

[@farrex0]

Notice how you got a few cognitive extroverts at the very left, and a few cognitive introverts at the very right. People often forget that being a cognitive extrovert does not mean a person is a social extrovert. Me for example, I am an ENTP, Ne Ti, Consume first. And I am not that extroverted, but I am always consuming like a freaking crack head. The more I learn about any and everything the better. In person I do not often blast, but online I do. And in person, the way I interact with people is through my Fe. My brother thinks I am an INTP, just because I do not interact with people like an extrovert. I am sociable, but I am very chill. But if you knew me, you could clearly tell I am Si inferior, while I have very well developped Fe. But people expect ENTPs to be this extroverted disagreeable chaos troll on crack, but I am just a chill disagreeable troll who is socially an ambivert, lmao.

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

Same here, I can be really wound up when interacting with people and socializing, but they don't see the time I spend reading, researching, working on a project, etc. ~ESTP

[@handreieiacasa]

Same story for me. I am more of a chaos monkey, because i have a csp(b) or cps(b) and so they see my play Energy and go "ahaha funny little enfp super extrovert", then there are people who see me during completely different periods of my life or just during different occupation and be like "ahahaha entp? You? Make me a favour just be an intp". I am just a naive troll who is costantly addicted to be receptive and building my inside world in order to just throw it outside whenever possible. I may be chaotic and playful at times, but at the end of the day i really am the one who spends hours building worlds inside me

[@HexagonSun990]

Ugh I love entps

[@malindaeckert2300]

I'm always fascinated by ENTP's ability to debate. generating points and double deciding them even without an "opponent" to spring off of. Kinda jelly.. but also sounds mentally exhausting

[@farrex0]

@@malindaeckert2300 Well that is the thing, it is not exhausting at all. It is actually invigorating. What type are you, Malinda? My mind is always looking for new ideas, exploing new possibilities. I am addicted to that "Oh I haven't thought about that" moment. Ti is only concerned in finding the truth, so every new idea is like a puzzle I must find a solution to. With Fe I am looking at what people value, and comparing to what it makes sense to me. Constantly analyzing everything. I love it. With all these, I do not actually need people, just as long as I get my share of ideas and new things to learn I am happy. The main function i have to keep happy is Ne. I am severely addicted to exploring new ideas and learning. But because of Fe I want to share those moments with others, find people that enjoy that exploration as well. Only problem is that very few people want to explore ideas like I do. And because of Fe, I always try and find a common ground and or somewhere to connect with other people. Forgoing being authentic for the sake of accepatance. So I become a comedian, with almost everyone. Because it is the easiest way to be liked. Ne Fe is great for making friends and being liked by everyone, as far as I know it is extremely rare for people to dislike me. But it all feels shallow, until i find someone I can explore ideas with, and oh boy that is when I really get excited. Sorry for the essay, once my Ne starts to write, it is very hard to stop, lmao.

[@antipunt1]

1:22 hits *internal screaming Jokes aside, the preference for what to do after high stress (escape vs push out) is an insanely useful litmus test for teasing introversion/extroversion apart

[@L.l.I.ia_N]

All I know for sure is that I have blast last. My tutor asks me questions that I definitely know the answer to but guess what I do? Nothing. Not even a single word comes out of my mouth. Especially when the answer is damn obvious, I don't want to say a thing. And it's just the recent example but it's just a reoccurring pattern. That's why I like to write the assignment then to talk. And that's the reason why people was mad at me at school, because they were asking questions that I never answered but when the written assignment came into place I had a good grade. They just don't understand that I'm not helping not because I don't want to (I don't want to either but that's a different conversation, even if I would want to help I couldn't say anything) but words don't come out. It's hard.

[@AndeAndrea]

"they don't track the invisible time" ; this is awesome. yes.

[@RetroXRicardo]

This makes complete sense. As a true ESFJ, I spend so much time trying to make sure everyone is okay, talking to others, getting things done and planning for success. At the end of the day, I enjoy my time alone just relaxing and learning on own time and space. The point where you said what would you do if your life was in danger, I definitely wouldn't hide and just keep to myself. I would start going outwardly and do something about it. Excellent insight! 👏👏👏

[@ClubENTP]

8:01 Made The Most Sense. lol Just Kidding. This Was A Great Lesson. Can’t Wait For Part 2.

[@StanTheWoz]

Great video, looking forward to part 2

[@katherinehendrix3887]

I like your heat chart. Good job Dave 👍

[@joevaghn457]

I find this reality interesting… The Big 5 personality traits also seem to kind of align with what Dave says. Extraversion isn’t entirely a social, but rather it’s like… Your focus on the external world (like Dave says, “the spectrum”). Extraversión is literally putting your energy into the external world. This tends to make people social.

[@StephanieJeanne]

You two crack me up. Thanks for that. I know we in the YT world see a lot of the stereotypes. I make fun of the introvert ones myself for comedy. It's important though, to distinguish the real definitions from the "fun" ones... That chart though, 🤪. My demon Se was screaming! 😱 🤣

[@SimoneEppler]

Same, my brain went „NOPE!“🤪😂

[@malindaeckert2300]

Love the turtleneck, great color 😊🔥 You two do great at coordinating pleasing color combinations to wear together 👌

[@andrewstump6138]

When Shan was talking about how her dream is to go into the closet and just be alone, it really made me start to wonder--what if hypothetically she were to actually be "allowed" to try that for a prolonged period of time? I would be inclined to think that maybe she would not love that alone time so much anymore and would be like, "get me out of here, where are my people" sort of thing, but because her saviors prevent her from even trying such a thing, it remains such an idealized dream in her mind, and her obligation to the tribe remains a drag just because it's so constant. I don't know, just something that popped into my mind while she was talking about that.

[@DrewTheDreugh]

I can't speak for her, but I did go through that experience of extended solitude in my 20's, and it did make me appreciate my people much more, but it didn't fundamentally change who I am. I still get a little giddy when I actually get some alone time. I'd still say it's worth trying though, just for the self-knowledge it brings.

[@adamwesselinoff126]

ladies and gentlemen, this is your brain on extroverted thinking

[@MichelleMy_Unwell]

Speaking of Elon Musk, I've always thought that Shan looks like a young Maye Musk. You said "Elon" and my Ni took me on a magic carpet ride and that's all I got from this video.

[@JoaoJGabriel]

my Ni in a hurry guess would be that Maye is a FM BP/C(S) INFJ. Don't quote me on that, tho, I just had to have a guess 5 minutes after reading your comment xD

[@MichelleMy_Unwell]

@@JoaoJGabriel you got it! 👍😁

[@JoaoJGabriel]

@@MichelleMy_Unwell And if that's the case it makes a lot of sense she looks like Shan. Double masculine Blast at the top and high play. Definetely the FM Ni forward forehead.

[@verntoews6937]

Phlegmatic super introvert Melancholy ordinary introvert Phlegmatic dominant melancholy secondary is the most introverted by this equation translation INFP most introverted

[@JamesTaylor117]

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[@333Susanne]

so cool!! I'm ISFP but everybody else would consider me extroverted (which I can see why), today I learned about the animals and consider myself CP/B, a #2 of the Intro's, and which ends up as 4th in the overall column for extroverted. LOL that makes so much sense :D :D - you could have written the numbers in colors, red and blue for better distinction between Intro/Extro types

[@KingOfParrots]

I have no clue what you guys are talking about but I’m very intrigued

[@vaaaliant]

ahh, finally a video I can understand

[@denzildk]

as an SB/C(P) i am always assumed to be an extrovert by people i talk to (blast at). It's pretty much only the people that see my alone sleep time, and how much time my sleep takes, that know i'm an introvert.

[@noturbo]

this is me also i can blast for a time then i have to run away 🚀 and i live alone so no one can bother my sleep.

[@fabianpestarino3941]

Same I can talk (about very few topics) for hours and hold endless monologues but when it’s other topics I get so tired and then I just leave to be on my own. Especially when meeting people that talk about things I don’t care about it’s soo draining. I think SB/C(P) is predestined to become a professor, psychotherapist or some kind of teacher for a complex subject, that in some way explains the world to others.

[@savagestudio9666]

I would have switch 2 and 7 so 2 in the introvert spectrum is more introvert and 2 for extrovert more extrovert.

[@Chara-yp6zj]

I'm struggling to tie some of this stuff together... Can anyone help me discern between what it's like to have Di or Oi, as well as the difference of Oe and De? I keep thinking of them as the same thing and it's hard to pick which is which. Can someone direct me to a video like that maybe?

[@SupineReverie]

From what I've understood so far in these videos: Di = Introverted Deciders (Deciders being Feeling & Thinking) = Fi, Ti - Lead Fi would be INFP, ISFP - Lead Ti would be INTP, ISTP De = Extroverted Deciders Fe, Te - Lead Fe: ENFJ, ESFJ - Lead Te: ENTJ, ESTJ Oi = Introverted Observers (Observers being Sensing & Intuition) = Ni, Si - Lead Ni: INFJ, INTJ - Lead Si: ISTJ, ISFJ Oe = Extroverted Observers = Ne, Se - Lead Ne: ENFP, ENTP - Lead Se: ESFP, ESTP

[@Owlsworthy]

We all have all of them. Di is your Introverted Decider function which is either going to be Fi or Ti. Di is your identity and sense of self. De is the Extroverted Decider function which is either Fe or Te. De deals with the Tribe, be it values or reasons. Oi is the Introverted Observer function which is either Si or Ni. This deals with organizing and stacking. Oe is the Extroverted Observer function which is either Se or Ne. Oe deals with gathering information, either data or concepts.

[@manerodawd6640]

I am an INTP CP/B(S), but think my sleep isn't that bad at all, because I'm an ambivert leaning a little more to extrovert I think, usually I consume A LOT, while I'm consuming I can sleep that easily because I get bored, so I go talk to people, when I'm talking to people I'm play and blast a lot, and I like it, and then after some time(few hours) I get tired or drained, I don't know, and want to get alone, and than I can sleep, and I sleep also a lot, so I don't know, It looks like my animals are balanced out, but sleep is still the last priority.

[@oscarl.3563]

_BS_ /C(P) more introverted than _SB_ /C(P?) Very strange. Same with _CP_ /B(S) more extraverted than _PC_ /B(S.)

[@5dlovelight]

The chart shows BSCP as 2 in introversion and SBCP as a 6. I don't think the color tones are indicative of that spectrum...

[@jake.larsen]

I think they're putting weight on if B/P are next to each other and S/C

[@slothman3981]

That bit intrigued me too

[@samueleparo4828]

Yeah, I was wondering about that either, I' m not sure I've understood that part, it seems really counterintuitive to me.

[@IndieAuthorX]

De is going to take the temperature of others to see if they should be talking while Di's are going to be happy to push whatever they want to say, when they want to say it. That is the reason.

[@dr.squidwardburr7661]

I consistently measure B,S,P,C on Eric Thor's rendition of your system. I wonder, does my description match those results? 🤔 I much rather be on the outside observing. Until &/or unless I decide I want to participate &/or unless I'm invited to participate. Then, I overcompensate for what I think is being introverted by being WAY too intensely extroverted. And shame myself later for allowing myself to be social engineered into extroverting.. And also blame myself because I actually DO want to share my ideas with a genuine ear. My ground hogs day? Need NEW. And I want to get to the root of controversial topics. My means to doing that is in discourse with people. But once we come to the door of Biases & ego... CONFLICT. And while I HATE conflict, I've learned there is a time (& how) to embrace it (shout out to Kenny Rogers, TomTom, & Dr. Jordan B. Peterson 😁). Especially & particularly when it comes to Justice. What's Right. I measure *who* is Right against that latter measurement.

[@Habeeh]

Can someone explain to me why CPBS is more extroverted than a PCBS??? Isn’t it supposed that Play is more extroverted than Consume?

[@abadi173]

im always welling to help anyone who ask for help but i cannot ask for help, even if my life is on the line, how can i identify that on the OP spectrum system?

[@nattifrutti]

De: sacrificing oneself for others, but not able to prioritize the self even though it's needed.

[@abadi173]

@@nattifrutti hmmm how come i feel like i got everything i need ? im more financially stable then 90% of people in my community, if i was De i would have been more giving to them then i am, i find it hard to donate to people, i rather teach them then just give things/money way because that's not useful in most cases, so how is that De?

[@farrex0]

@@abadi173 Well, you could be De/Di or Di/De in the middle. Meaning a double decider, so you struggle with both sides of the spectrum. You mgiht not be on either extreme, but prefer one over the other. So in some areas you might prioritize yourself and in other you will prioritize others.

[@abadi173]

@@farrex0 i feel dumb for not figuring out that myself, its so obvious and yet it went over my head, thanks.

[@TheLategates]

Depends on the motivations/needs behind why you help or don’t ask.

[@Kathryn_Jordyn]

When things get hard I can't do public speaking/talk to strangers or get my to-do list done. What functions are those? Hah

[@IndieAuthorX]

Blast last maybe, just a guess :)

[@Kathryn_Jordyn]

@@IndieAuthorX true.

[@tutmondigo]

Have you done blast/play/sleep/consume? for dumb-dumbs?

[@lou7998]

I’d be interested too!

[@IndieAuthorX]

Older videos, but they did not title it that way.

[@tutmondigo]

@@IndieAuthorX I've searched "play blast sleep consume" and didn't see any titles that fit the base level I'm looking for. Does anyone have more specific information on what should be searched to find this?

[@lalalanding234]

I think I'd be a minimum of five minutes late even if the damn building was on fire, Si demon, ENFP Ne/Fi here, most probably Play first

[@someonerandom713]

Ne/Fi is Consume, Play is Ne/Te. Pick one :^)

[@IndieAuthorX]

If play first, you would be the thinking, other people oriented ENFP, Ne/Te. Robin Williams, Phillip Defranco, Joy Williams, Jim Henson... If you are Ne/Fi, that i lead consume, think Robert Downey Jr., Rainne Wilson, Megyn Kelly, Taylor Momsen, Adele. Hope that helps :)

[@someonerandom713]

@@IndieAuthorX Taylor Momsen is Ne/Fi, really?

[@lou7998]

I have a very basic question; the two functions that appear over and over in the chart (for example Ni/Fe). Are those a type’s first two functions? Or functions 1 and 3? (Or something else haha). Thank you.

[@SuNshamsi]

Yes. :) It's usually Dom+Aux but if it is both extroverted or both introverted here you just have a "Jumper" (Dom+Ter used in a Dom+Aux mannerism) so to say. - FYI: Shan and Dave also have other charts where the two functions are also color-keyed in blue, grey, red and green for the temperaments (IJs, IPs, EJs and EPs).

[@lou7998]

@@SuNshamsi many thanks for clarifying! Now I can understand their videos better :).

[@SuNshamsi]

@@lou7998 You are very welcome! Happy Learning!

[@HexagonSun990]

7:23 maintain relationships even with family members who I'm physically close to

[@dolarich]

That total disrespect for (Te) on the functions table there was THE WORST thing Dave has ever done OMG man get it together!!! 😂 Stop showing that thing like it's so clear to everyone watching what you're talking about!!! Make it easier to digest please I implore you!!

[@Universal_Cymbol]

I feel like they don't give context and don't make finding details about their aggregations at all easy to find. Definitely would be nice to get a sentence giving context more often.

[@J11_boohoo]

How is CPSB more extroverted than PCSB?

[@IndieAuthorX]

De is aware of the tribe, therefore is quieter, while savior identity people will just push what they want to talk about. It is just in theory though, not a hard and fast rule.

[@melartista]

I have no idea what they're talking about. What video do I watch so I can understand all the lingo for the functions, animals, etc?

[@jeffrey-825]

Where does this theory come from? Not MBTI directly. Is this a personal application? What defined these categories?

[@Randorandom232]

Why does the woman look so familiar?

[@bananewane1402]

What is the term for someone who spends most of their time alone and/or asleep, BUT when they get into a group of people they are obnoxiously loud and energetic for a couple hours before crashing.

[@IndieAuthorX]

Consume and then play, maybe? Getting that play energy out somehow.

[@jumpkut]

As someone who has never watched a video from this channel, this video was a completely indecipherable mess. Would be nice if there was any context provided to what was being talked about, or at least a suggestion to what to watch first to understand whats going on.

[@Samira-rj4ke]

What was that sound at the end ahah

[@silicon212]

"The music is reversible, but time isn't. Turn back! Turn back! Turn back! Turn back!"

[@ThaVipaa]

some twin peaks shit 😂

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

lol Ti/Ni yep that's me

[@maxidyrin]

Chances are high that you are Fi/Ni. Many snowflakes here got this type, including myself.

[@potapotapotapotapotapota]

@@maxidyrin I don't know where you get that idea from. I very much care about my logical reasoning. I have absolutely no Fi. I couldn't care less about my feelings because I instead have Fe demon and am always worried about what the tribe values. I have needed to learn how to use Fi because it doesn't come naturally to me.

[@maxidyrin]

@@potapotapotapotapotapota i have the same issues but im an fi dom. Most people are Fi doms. Theyre weird about people, they give you stupid te reasons, they have the typical fi problems, afraid of confrontation and very selfish. I think the MM fi/ni (b) is the "regular person" type. There is no one type you'll see more at least here in europe. In USA maybe you'll see more different types but everyone describes the vast majority the same way what describes perfectly this specific type.

[@leticastojanovic8218]

Wtf

[@solo0link]

How would a trickster Ti manifest and how can we improve it? ESFP

[@sibestfunction4400]

no shadow functions in this system

[@solo0link]

@@sibestfunction4400 Then how do you differentiate between an ESFP and ESTP?

[@enieh112]

@@solo0link trickster is the absent function of your person. Luckily, me being intp, i reasoned my way to the hole that is Se in me. In this system (Dave and Shan's OPS), Se is gathering facts, so maybe try using your hero (1st savior) as well. The downside would be to process it with inferior (last demon) Ni into a working concept.

[@solo0link]

@@enieh112 I don't know which one I am between ESFP and ESTP.

[@BaronSloth]

@@solo0link Assuming you're correct in narrowing between those two, look at your functions. The first has Fi-Te and the second Ti-Fe. Look at whether you consider YOUR values and TRIBE reasons or YOUR reasons and TRIBE values. When I was typing myself, I struggled between INFJ and INTJ, but on the same axes. A little bit of honest self-reflection and it became abundantly clear that I was Fe-Ti, I only wanted to be Te-Fi because, as they've pointed out in the past, we all seem to want to be what we're not. So, don't look at what you wish you were or, like they say here, that one time in middle school, look at your general behaviors and get input from friends/family on it if you need.

[@calmingbabysleep1256]

Why so condescending in every video?