They Keep Copying The P-51C Because It's The Best (1v8 Uptier Match)

[@LilBeepBop5063]

defyn and spookston posting within 10 minutes of eachother making me choose sides like a child of divorce

[@smigoltime]

a choice between a human and furry should be quite easy

[@shahramtondkarmobarakie1824]

@@smigoltime foxussy is tempting me father

[@purplfedora800]

ah yes, plane gameplay vs. tank gameplay, truly a more polarizing issue than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

[@LilBeepBop5063]

@@smigoltime ur right, back to the spookston vid i go

[@Epic_candle]

It would definitely be our furry friend​@@smigoltime

[@frankzhang1246]

P51C-10 (US), P51C-11 (Japanese and Chinese), F6C (French), J26 David(Swedish) 5 different models of the same plane in game, wow its the Sherman of air rb! Now we just need a captured german p51 and a soviet lend lease p51 for every nation to have a p51 lol

[@elkiane976]

Italy:

[@Bobspineable]

That’s what you get when you export so many vehicles. Just wait until the F-35 and see how many people will complain

[@frankzhang1246]

@@elkiane976 mb, just like Gaijin, I forget italy

[@roguebogey]

They honestly should have given us a german or ussr p-51 instead of a p-51 for a nation that already has access to 2 of them in the tech tree One of the most worthless battle pass rewards yet

[@grahh7234]

There’s already a german captured skin for the p51d in the files

[@samadams2203]

The teammate swooping down on the already dead tempest is the absolute perfect encapsulation of ARB.

[@YouGotTheMelvin]

he didn't also teamkill at the same time, so almost perfect

[@arroyo5802]

3:45 Average teammates that come in and "help" you by killing the only dude that doesnt need to die (the one you already crit) and then they die or leave you alone to face the enemy team by yourself

[@tezbertzero1915]

Jugue arcade anoche por las tareas del pase y ptm, 10 bombarderos, ni tan dificil es matarlos, lo complicado es que te los roban entre 6 tontos en lo que cae, y tambien ellos no se eyectan al ser derribados

[@screwthis3151]

Total brainless pig that just wants a easy kill every second with couple clicks

[@arroyo5802]

@@tezbertzero1915 En arcade creo que el indicador de puntería va al centro de masa. Si apuntas ligeramente delante le darás al piloto y te darán la kill fácil, sin tener que esperar a que caiga

[@tezbertzero1915]

@@arroyo5802 ok lo de que el inidcador va alcentro del avion NO lo sabia, gracias en verdad JAJAJ

[@Aetherblade-z4o]

Viva Espanol

[@smigoltime]

What an interesting and original new additions, I will rush to buy my battlepass and spend weeks grinding for it now!

[@roguebogey]

It's like getting a new sherman for ground battles lol. Of all the things they could have added it's a carbon copy of a plane that has been in the game since the beginning of time

[@smigoltime]

@@roguebogey multiple times*. I'd understand if we had one Mustang, but we already have like 20

[@roguebogey]

@@smigoltime Yea that's what I'm saying. Too many copy paste planes in this game as it is

[@smilesmilesmile45]

Now they don’t even bother to make a good skin. The Japanese one was all right, the Swedish one not anywhere close, and then this. Change a shade of green, throw a Swedish/Chinese roundel on it and call that a new addition. They could totally have went for some chrome and shark teeth skin used by the flying tigers and later the ROC and USA air, idk like Tex Hill’s p-51b, which for record was a grayish green(still better than this) with some intimidating red eyes for the shark. Allied pilots in China were in charge of painting their own sharks, many being unique, badass, and feel fun to lay hands upon. i.e. p-40m “Shirley” or “Miss Julie”with the long fangs, or Wang Kuangfu’s p-40n, or the p-40 “Nipponese Nemesis”. With the already in game Chinese p-40e, maybe the “Rose Marie” flown by lt. Robert Mooney who, after downing a ki-43 in a headon above the township of Xiangyun, refused to bail out from his damaged plane and chose to fly away from the populated area so his aircraft didn’t kill anyone as it crashed. This resulted in his head injury when parachuting and later his death, and such heroic act was witnessed by those Chinese civilians who in gratitude established a memorial for him. Now look at the Chinese p-40e in game, which during its 5 years as a playable got no skins but its original boring half-completed (like every other aircraft in game) skin. With the current pace wt is at, pistons are just going to get worse. No actual new wwii planes added, and the copy-paste gets increasingly less sincere and more……how could I describe it? More copy-paste.

[@daddy_marx6823]

If only you didn't have to run 20 billion gallons of gas...

[@Superbobo1]

min fuel is only 220kg of gas, really isn't that bad

[@kingcamilo]

@alterego2421 the best

[@jakobc.2558]

@@Superbobo1 what the f*** do you mean 220kg isnt that much, thats almost an entire 500lbs bomb.

[@rainsilent]

@@jakobc.2558 Yes, it is. However 20 mins on most other fighters is around 170-180kg. So the actual added weight difference between 20 and 30 mins isn't actually that meaningful unless you are in a same plane match up. Fuel weight in props isn't really a performance difference maker like it is in jets where just 5 mins of fuel is getting near double the weight for jets. The weight difference in props between most everything 20mins to 30 mins is literally just 40-45ish lbs. In the grand scheme of things it really isn't that bad.

[@Superbobo1]

@@jakobc.2558 the p-51 is already a 1000 kg more than a yak or 109, having 50-100 kg more fuel than they do wont make much difference

[@Turk3YbAstEr]

The P-51C: what if we didn't make the P-51D so heavy and put it at a lower BR.

[@igoryst3049]

does it not have the ridiculous 30min of minimum fuel too?

[@angryburg]

@@igoryst3049 Only French F-6C gets 20 minutes on min fuel.

[@sparkling925]

@@igoryst3049doesnt make that huge of a diffrence in props unless youre fighting another p51c with less fuel

[@Xiphactinus]

@alterego2421also has the worse rudder, so you win some and you lose some.

[@rainsilent]

@@SA-ks3ex Not really. 30 mins of fuel is around 200kgs or 400lbs for most single engined prop fighters. 10 minutes difference in gas isn't going to change much of anything in props outside of close match ups when at similar fuel as you are talking about 50-60kgs or 100-120lbs. You really need to get to above 15 mins of fuel difference to really start to get a meaningful shift in performance difference in props outside of same plane match ups or very close match ups in general. Don't believe me? The P-51D-30 is around 200kgs heavier than any P-51C and a massive majority of players would be hard pressed to notice any handling difference when both have the same fuel load. Does the C beat a D-30 in a dogfight? In theory yes but the difference isn't actually significant in practice. In jets the fuel weight for 10 mins of fuel can go above 1,000lbs for a few select jets and is 500lbs+ in nearly all jets 9.0+. This is why fuel changes in jets is such a big deal. The weight difference in gas for the same flight time is bigger by a multiplicative factor in jets compared to props.

[@bagel9594]

this is for sure one of the planes of all time

[@Fuzeha]

Another brilliantly unique plane gaijin, Supermarine Spiteful when?

[@KekusMagnus]

i remember suggesting this on the forums back in 2014... XP-72 would be nice too

[@kingghidorah8106]

they will add it with peacetime settings making it dogass like the sea fury and the seafire fr47

[@doktour_tie]

Gaijin hates the UK tho

[@rainsilent]

It didn't have "peace time" settings for them to go to.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@rainsilent Gaijin will pull something out of their snot to make it ass I'm Sure

[@Burgner68]

Sometimes i think that DEFYN is just gonna have a normal commentary, and then he comes out with the most random jokes that catch me off guard so good

[@rekamtihgaming1]

P-51C is very good.F-6 (P-51 recon for the French Tree) is the lightest of all the P-51Cs

[@sigamer216]

And to top it off, we're getting another totally unique Yak-3 for the event grind.

[@polygondwanaland8390]

Every nation gets a P-51C and a Sherman

[@jayklink851]

A P-51 C, a phenomenal plane, without (always) having US teammates, how f'n sweet is that? I always regretted not getting the French one. I was bummed that the Swedish variant didn't have the good late-war ammo.

[@0GTXR]

Or the Swedish HEF launchers

[@kingghidorah8106]

seeing Defyn get consistent pilot snipes with the guns is a good indicator that if you find him in a match and he has a gun solution you're having the same fate.

[@KekusMagnus]

The speed at which he secures kills with his superhuman aim is just phenomenal. Very often in dogfights you get 1-2 passes before you're effectively dead, it makes a huge difference

[@voldenrudvek7070]

Gaijin trying not to alienate the player base by doing the textbook definition of bare minimum (impossible).

[@EricThyKaiser]

DEFYN even learned French for that! I am subbing only for that French pronunciation

[@Delantho]

My biggest complaint about the P51C is that gaijin reduced the US one to be Tier 2 instead of 3 so now it cant be used for daily tasks but the premium ones get to stay as Tier 3

[@j100j]

I suck at the game and I recently got a 1v7 win in that thing. It's insane.

[@gitgood8509]

So, now we only need Soviet and Italian P-51 to get Mustangs in every tech tree?

[@SHEEPS_123]

hey defyn, I cant find where to drop clips for your reaction in your discord.

[@salltyboi]

Its “content-review” channel

[@SHEEPS_123]

@@salltyboi well thats just it, there is no content review channel

[@salltyboi]

@@SHEEPS_123 there certainly is. Did you get your role on the server yet?

[@SHEEPS_123]

@@salltyboi role? im new to discord im not sure what that is

[@salltyboi]

@@SHEEPS_123 you’ll figure it out

[@JojoRota-k5u]

you'd honestly think there's enough versions of these planes around now, and I'm still baffled at how well he flies these even though they are actually somewhat of a cracked plane

[@501strookie]

When flying planes like the P-51 or other planes that primarily BnZ, I often have trouble when I'm climbing and encounter enemy planes that are usually more maneuverable than me and are at a higher altitude, or at the same altitude as me. Aside from pushing a head on, what would be the best thing to do in that situation, should I just try to extend and equalize the energy?

[@Ueisn]

Yeah

[@wtpiv6041]

Same issue here. I can climb for all I’m worth but there’s always something more maneuverable than me that outclimbed me and cuts in to force me into a turn fight that I can’t win. I really gotta learn how to engage/disengage.

[@RamonInNZ]

I am so fascinated why people don't help their teammates when close, then die trying to groundpound!

[@illegalaryan823]

Biggest pet peev is teamates going for planes that are no longer threats instead of stuff that actually will be a threat.

[@sabinvanvuuren5748]

Bots are smarter than most WT players, teammates are more like seagulls and rats.

[@SotGravarg]

Do you make a list of things to say or does that stuff just come to your mind like that?

[@DEFYN]

I freeball it 🗣

[@SotGravarg]

@@DEFYN Astonishing. I could never improvise like that.

[@aceshigh234]

Opinion on the new copy-paste Yak-3 event vehicle? :/

[@DEFYN]

Zzzzzzz

[@studentjahodak]

1:45 i love jokes like that

[@ReviveHF]

We need captured variants of M1 Abrams and Leopard2A5 in game.

[@YukarisGearReviews]

No we do not.

[@Smshrs_brkn]

Je m'appelle frikandel Such a classic for the Dutchies

[@Catsmurf1234]

Defyn can you make a video about the Sagittario 2, I’m struggling with it at 9.3

[@KekusMagnus]

Its a braindead plane, you just fly it like a zero. and good luck vs missiles

[@sammy808hi]

What control method does Defyn use? I’m a bit new to war thunder. I don’t understand how he looks the other way and then turns very gradually (looks jerky almost) but still not as much energy loss.

[@ashplattsii1fan92]

Hold c on keyboard to look around while flying

[@darealsherlock8026]

Unrelated, but, I finally started the UK grind, playing arcade at tier one, as one does, and I found a lvl 90 with 1000+ kills in the He-100d with 50 deaths in arcade, bullying guys who just downloaded the game. What is going on with this game?

[@KekusMagnus]

He-100 and P-39 tryhards are some of the most toxic losers in the game, they are a direct result of Gaijin's inability to balance the game

[@salltyboi]

This is truly the fortknight battle poss vehicle of all time

[@arpentereves]

To anyone wanting to know what the B-25 said, it's basically "what a shit team" ("shameful to have a team that smells like shit" for anyone wanting a closer to literal translation). It's not like the team Defyn was part of got steamrolled lol

[@lefty_13]

My main problem with the other 51.s is the rudder the c model seems not to have that problem

[@KekusMagnus]

That's because the bubble canopy on the later models reduces stability and rudder performance. IRL the increased cockpot visibility was seen as a worthy tradeoff

[@derletztecenturioxd6866]

Could you try the d4y2 from the japanese tech tree ? It´s very maneuverable, got decent speed and air to air rockets

[@mistahsheesh]

could cover the sk60b again? since a lot of stuff has changed in the last 3 years or so

[@ToreDL87]

Still trying to figure out what was going through IronDoughnut's mind when he took out the one you already got. And it just struck me, the reason I can't figure it out is because nothing went through his mind.

[@sparkling925]

are tracer belts on the .50 cals the way to go now again?

[@rainsilent]

Late war tracer belts were always the best belts for US .50s.

[@sparkling925]

@@rainsilentfor some time most people ran ground belts and i had also much better succes with them until now

[@rainsilent]

@@sparkling925 Which was personal choice. On paper the API-T M20 has always been the best round for US .50s since it was added to the game. It always tied for the most damage with the other AP rounds and had the very strong incendiary effect from the I rounds.

[@JaykeBlayde]

i'm dumb, which ammo belt you using?

[@imaginewinning5679]

I came along someone the other day that said that the P51C was rubbish. I told him to f*** off.

[@princesspupcake1269]

What kind of tracers does this copy-paste get? The usual lackluster green-tips, or the actual incendiary ones?

[@darealsherlock8026]

APITs, so, the burny ones.

[@xevious4142]

That c.205 pulling out of the head on was one of the worst decisions I've seen lol. He's got 3 20mm cannons including one in the nose vs your 50s. Have some balls.

[@ioser_182]

What plane is better for grinding China? A5C or J7?

[@LoafOfBread57]

No matter how hard I try I just can’t get .50’s to do damage consistently, especially the early war belts

[@GewelReal]

You could re-fly the Javelin after the buff

[@ricardoricardoricardoricardo]

I just unlocked it for free. You're right, people pretty much fly in front of it these days.

[@Rocketracoon809]

Defyn Cl13B mk 6 video when? It gets downtiered almost every match and absolutely eats everything under 9.0 alive, including Migs

[@KekusMagnus]

Mig-19 would like to have a word with you. Mig-17 out-performs it too

[@Rocketracoon809]

@@KekusMagnus mig19 is 9.3, i said everything UNDER 9.0, i kinda forgot about Mig17 but doesn’t the Cl13B outturn it? I usually feel confident enough to dogfight them and win but i don’t really face the best pilots so maybe thats why. In a dogfight if both were flown by competent pilots i feel it would be equal (the cl does have a much stronger engine after all) but in an air rb match I’d take the cl13b. High ammo count and kinda fun guns, incredible roll and amazing high speed acceleration and the fact it basically doesn’t compress makes it better imo, it can outrun it too i believe

[@Rocketracoon809]

@alterego2421 admittedly alot of cl13 pilots i see in matches just throw themselves around not knowing how to use it, sometimes i win fights that i shouldn’t even be winning against them and they love going headon with saab105s… i personally find the CL13B to be superior to the Mig15Bis but the A variant i’d say is around equal

[@Rocketracoon809]

@alterego2421 my bad 😂

[@dutch24]

J'mappele frikandel lmao

[@HoChiMeme]

4.7 plane at 3.7 all because it has 4 50 cals instead of 6

[@rainsilent]

Actually it is at 3.7 because "feeling of progression" as C comes before D. There are many examples of later versions of a plane being worse than earlier variants but at a higher BR because Gaijin wants to provide a "sense of progression" from one plane to the next.

[@YukarisGearReviews]

And now the US P51C is the only one that's rank 2....

[@obsidianfury828]

Can you play the a6m5 ko

[@Los3llizos]

Can you play the P-51K for China?

[@roguebogey]

Why did they decide to make the reward a copy paste P-51 for a nation that ALREADY HAS ONE? Why not at least give it to a nation that doesn't have a P-51 like wtf

[@h_leb]

Sunshine never said that

[@reisen-5970]

Definitely my favorite Mustang in the game. Sure the guns can be trash sometimes but my aim is also trash sometimes. LOL

[@Hartwig870]

I mean given china's take on IP, this is sorta in character for them.

[@Splomf]

Just got the Mig19S in the german tree. Holy shit it's disgusting in anything that's 9.7 or below. 4-6 Kills easy as pie against F4E's and F3H's. Then the F5Cs crush you in an uptier. At least all the Mig21 players are too dumb to kill me lmao! Maybe make a new Mig21F13 or other early Mig21 video to show people how to play them, they are being played like F104s and Zeros. no middleground.

[@darealsherlock8026]

China grind preventer, for FTP players, thank fucking god

[@BlueLightningHawk]

Bruh has paid actors 💀

[@doktorcodm6922]

try to playe wyvern i feel like if she dive it goes 1000000kmh so fast

[@godemperormeow8591]

Can’t get good footage because 0.1% of the player base actually wants to get good.

[@kiki7170]

3.7 is sherman firing at shermans and mustang dogfighting with mustangs

[@Луно]

8 kills on fw 190)))

[@DEFYN]

you mean just now in the 109G-6? lol

[@wtf27pl12]

p51k when

[@WarrenMoney]

Does anyone know why Chinese players try or succeed to team kill for 0 reason?

[@Bobspineable]

It is free so most people will probably just unlock without even trying.

[@Tuhrue]

3 views, 8 likes, Defyn casually defying logic

[@leopardo830]

Day 1 of asking defyn to play the bf109 K4 or G10

[@FishFlys]

shame your still dutch but good video

[@aperson6996]

Bruh you literally did a P51 review a few weeks ago

[@DEFYN]

That was a D30

[@user-ACEKING]

Isn’t that the whole point? The title?

[@farmcat9873]

Doesnt want to pay that ShellSupport and damn the WEP doesn't even move the heat on the water and or oil much at all, as I see it being used most the match.

[@alanchan8265]

too difficult for me this game

[@parvdhiman1959]

i hate my usa teams :)

[@roguebogey]

I hate my ussr teams. Perfectly balanced :)

[@mochabear88]

fr its good

[@Bf109F-4lover]

Hey DEFYN what do you think about a Romanian aviation sub tech tree? Should it be added? I think they should add it to Germany because they will give Germany more options for Fox 3s and a bit more planes. If you read this, can you tell me what do you think? Btw about this video, trust me: your videos are never boring! High kills games with some jokes is very nice to watch.

[@Siddich]

i do not like the headon meta…feels wrong. the outcome of headons is always a lil bit based on luck. yeah, dont dodge to early…if the enemy sprays from 3 km away and gets a lucky hit and crits your engine or sets you on fire, you still lost even though you might have been the better pilot. i only go for headons, when i do not have another choice or when i get greedy and half to do some mission.

[@وسيمالشيرواني]

What is best belt for weak Players in Arb?

[@TheLazyKat]

I really hope it had 6 fifties because just two less fifties seems like a drastic decrease in firepower The rudder at high speed doesn't help with aiming at those speeds either

[@DEFYN]

The rudder is quite ok on this one imo

[@LesaHorniplod]

Hey Defyn

[@MrKumi]

4 views in 3 minutes bro drank bleach

[@Scuttle.]

Hi defyn

[@Nitpick-zh8ky]

Day 24 of asking for f-86f-2 sabre video

[@daniel710624]

I didn't see P51C in Chinese tech tree...

[@DEFYN]

Its the new battlepass reward

[@HAECHI10]

Day 14 asking you to okay ju 88 c6

[@k_runwt]

HEHEHE First :DD

[@rowanyuh6326]

I dont get the hype tbh shit so mid

[@_0minutes]

UNBAN ME PLEASE

[@0GTXR]

**unbans**

[@kwestionariusz1]

Ones again GE scam

[@Eclipse-lw4vf]

Nah the Ge scam is the yak3 event vehicle that can be bought for GE in other trees for 1600 ge

[@roguebogey]

@@Eclipse-lw4vf They're both scams lol. Like most of the paid for items in this game

[@tolkien2013]

Bro plays against bots lmao. They don’t move it’s crazy

[@DEFYN]

That's 90% of people that play this game

[@deathfromabove7986]

first

[@Phoenix1.s]

3 views in 16 seconds bro fell off

[@MrChipcho]

Man, stop with those popular planes, show some unloved ones. Do P400 and P41 and such. Planes that are underdogs and hard to fly.

[@DEFYN]

We just gonna ignore i did attackers for like half a year straight 🧍‍♂️

[@MrChipcho]

@@DEFYN Attackers are not fighters, don't play dumb, it just doesn't suit you. Play the P400 and P41 and then bitch at me in the vids if it makes you feel better. Love your vids, you are a decent youtube being.

[@DEFYN]

I play them as fighters and they aren't popular 🤷‍♂️ I am just tryna cover stuff thats new or that I haven't yet. P-40 is something that I will try soon

[@MrChipcho]

@@DEFYN Nice, looking foreword! Have a great weekend