War Thunder Air Guides Part 7 - Using And Defeating Radar Missiles (FOX-3 & FOX-1)

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0:00 Intro
1:02 How to use FOX-3 effectively
3:00 Pulse Radar Recap
4:17 Pulse doppler radar recap
6:00 Multipathing
6:56 Chaffing
8:30 Cold, Hot and Notching
10:16 Gimbal Limit
10:30 Cranking
12:00 cranking simplified
12:50 F Pole tactics
14:30 NEZ and MAR
16:30 Altitude
20:14 Examples (links in the description for the full videos on these)
F-15 BVR introduction guide: • BVR IS EASY, When You ...
SU-27SM: • The SU-27SM Flanker At...
Mirage 2000F-5: • The Completely Reworke...
F-4F ICE: • Germany Suffers ft. Th...
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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[@Hazey652]

Truly the Picasso of our time 🎨🖌

[@Asspiss100]

"The f15 is fast but not quite as large as your mother"

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Nah Hans Zimmer is the picasso of our time, some say he's the mozart of our time but I say he's both.

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[@mrincogno7978]

I think you have taught me everything I know in this game. From energy fighting and defensive flying to radar usage. Cheers Defyn, your guides are always a massive help

[@Kiirxas]

This guide is suprisingly easy to understand for such a complex topic. Massive kudos

[@DEFYN]

that was the aim, glad to hear it :)

[@CyberRecon]

@@DEFYN This is the best guide i have ever seen, you show how to do it and show example's and keep hammering it in with clips of effectively doing it.👏👏👏

[@frank-7861]

@@DEFYNhey sorry, unrelated, what is the bracket underneath the mar at 2:29 ? Thank you And if you could make a short video on the new in cockpit mfd (?) radar screens on what each number means and each symbol. Thank you

[@v0idwalker489]

@@frank-7861the bracket is the mar, it has a lower range because if you’re close enough there are many things that the enemy could do to evade.

[@Basicallybaltic]

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[@EdgeR2]

Thank you Defyn, I can now larp properly

[@ItzCPU_]

Same

[@stevato0449]

3:53 Me when I see SU-57 in my radar

[@DEFYN]

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[@Micro-Lander]

Shitty ah NATO jokes, bruh new jokes when they gonna drop SU57 is old

[@stevato0449]

@@Micro-Lander I'd make SU 75 jokes but like either of the Sukhois they're still in the hangar

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@@stevato0449 we'd make Su-75 jokes but the blueprints have not even left Ivan's babushka's basement. And when it does it will be a paper tiger

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[@Beulena.]

Don't play WT anymore but gonna watch for the tutorial algorithm.

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Based

[@GeneralLee2000]

Can bro jam MY WEZ? 👀

[@DEFYN]

I AM WAZZING THE JEM

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HES PULLING OUT HIS WEZ

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She is jamming my WEZ till i Fox

[@kingghidorah8106]

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I jam my wez every night

[@elitely6748]

Hell yeah, great to get a dedicated in-depth tutorial from our man Defyn! I've been notching Fox-3's slightly better but thanks so much we appreciate it!

[@opar6585]

That last part when defyn mentioned that you have other ordnances really relates to me. I just got AIM120 some minutes ago with F15C and while i grinded it most of my kills were with aim9m. Lots of people got so focused and stressed facing fox 3s that they forgot that ir missiles still exist, they just didnt flare. Easy splash.

[@garrettpersyn3665]

Happened to me the other day in my F-14B, got uptiered to 13.0 and had a missile fired at me head on, was confident it was an AIM-120 only to realize too late that it was an AIM-9M and I hadn't bothered turning my afterburner off when I turned around

[@sdghtjsdcgs]

The last point about IR missiles and guns is super relevant. I've gotten a ton of IR and gun kills lately. Its like people are so focused on Fox 3's the rest of their brains stopped working.

[@venatrix3431]

Same with my Magic 2s, though rarely gun kills because people will keep distance (and expose their afterburner in the process)

[@hunterparke9059]

A wonderfully educational video with defined terms within. This video does not exclude a single audience and I applaud you for that. Thank you for putting this out there:)

[@Duality.12]

this is why I love you you make things simple and put visual examples in the video for speds like me

[@Beastactive66]

no matter how good missiles get missiles don't go through mountains.

[@antonmancia2096]

Great video that compiles really well all the knowledge one needs to fight in the new META. A great watch

[@hindel6141]

Very informative Mr. Defyn. Thank you for sharing.

[@Amexel]

Very helpful video, I knew some of this already but the strategies with altitude and cranking are really good to learn! Got an Ace in the Gripen A yesterday so IR-missiles are definetly still useful lol

[@ArcaneActual]

For real, great video! Hard to cover so much information that comes with the bvr play but you nailed it and kept it entertaining.

[@nemexx3357]

Thank you for explaining this! Massiv help.

[@Panocek]

17:42 - targets that have clear sky as background gives Pulse Doppler no ground returns as reference point to filter out, thus any decent radar set becomes unnotchable unless chaff is involved.

[@GOLDEN_TOMCAT]

Man this Video is such a Masterpiece thank you so much Defyn ♥

[@Adrella_Highwing]

Really appreciate the level of detail and corrolating it all into one video, thanks man! Must have been a lot of work!

[@Asspiss100]

8:05 ive found that when notching and dropping 2-3 pops of chaff at a time in random intervals, the missile is slightly turning into the chaff briefly before going back to lead pursuit on my plane- effectively making it travel a greater distance while also turning more rlcreating drag and slowing it down. Makes it a lot easier to outrun/ outturn it

[@stevato0449]

Love cranking to your videos keep it up 👍👍

[@Hagop64]

I feel like I was already almost doing everything right but not having great success with it. Thanks for clarifying the key bits I was missing!

[@roebuckpayne]

This video is excellent. Well done as always Def. o7

[@Yablokus]

Your videos really helped me to become better at dogfights. Thank you!

[@brianebanks1769]

Very well done video. You explained conplex concepts well using similes and analogy. You may not get the most views with these videos but they are very helpful. Ty defyn

[@varesin2978]

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[@The_Gabinator]

Thanks for the great tutorials as always.

[@oofdotcom420]

perfect timing Defyn, i just got the RB99's on the "new" grippy

[@KledAteTacos]

Good guide, thanks defyn

[@aescobar32]

amazing video and great info. Gracias!

[@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv]

Seriously started using your videos on how to actually notch, crank and play these jets at top tier. Genuinely top notch content as well as patter.

[@H34Rt54]

Dude thank you so much for fox-3 missile guide,

[@HinataNarutoSasuke]

Thanks, needed this

[@Gerg_de]

I already knew most of this but i didnt know exactly how the DL display and PD worked so this video was very informative

[@braedynhoward3644]

also, for cranking, losing some altitude while turning to the gimbal limit also forces the missile to turn more as it decreases in altitude and as it enters thicker air, while you retain your speed in a turn as you fly down. this makes the missile turn down, in addition to turning left or right, while flying into thick air. And if you then use the gimbal limit to turn in the other direction, it bleeds more speed before finally turning cold (but that's not recommended unless you have some distance to maneuver before the missile reaches you, otherwise, crank and go cold).

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So much fun.. thank you

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Excellent content. Really.

[@Squizziles]

DEFYN Making us all more qualified pilots than actual Mig pilots and the few modern phantom pilot’s 😂😂

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this was very well thought out and presented. Well done. Should help lots of noobs out there

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Great video

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[@Bastyxx227]

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[@usmcpound]

This seems so much easier in RB the sim. Thanks for the useful information.

[@roebuckpayne]

This is helping me learn to fly my 5F. I’m no good with the MICA’s.

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[@Tuhrue]

Gonna watch this knowing full well Im still gonna get smacked out of the air by these new wall hacking missiles even after using terrain masking to defeat them (literaly happened)

[@kgetman88]

Had to pause my goon sesh to watch and study

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Needed those few seconds 😩😤😤

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study for 30 mins ❌ watch how to deal with fox-3 missiles ✅

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There goes KZbin unsubbing me from people randomly again. Love these videos, helps a lot for surviving in top tier!

[@WelsyCZ]

Hey thank you for this guide, even though I was familiar with radar (or so I thought) and have like 1500 games at 10.3+, this was real easy to understand and I loved watching it. Real useful.

[@scenario7f12]

Would still be stuck at props if Defyn wasnt around, appreciate every bit of help you give (ps I reckon your the next Van Gogh as well :))

[@elbalazo5135]

This comes in handy for when I pass the French br 11.3 and get to the mirage 2000.

[@justinmarcogarcia6855]

Imagine applying all of this then your team proceeds to get wiped out, FUN

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as the soviet mains said when the r27er got you in terminal guidance: Just nutch hardur bro))

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[@nicolasalexander408]

I was just watching missile videos and eh, here we are......how not to die so much....awesome.....

[@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666]

best line of the video dont forget you have a gun so many ppl have forgot they have a gun now

[@luigisbrother7968]

I should not have found Defyn saying "sigma missile" as funny as I did yet here I am laughing away as a hyena. Tho great video as always

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Bro really broke the 4th wall at the end with putting us to sleep just as I was dozing off 😳

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thanks for the guide. I was thinking about getting a top tier premium with the summer sale, tried it out and couldnt fire missiles or anything

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Welcome to the Navy Fighter Weapons School. Your instructor for today will be Lieutenant Colonel "Cutaway" Defyn.

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[@Wotplaya4]

I want to note, for 9:05, that yes most PD radars will usually not have a problem with zero speed closure rates, not all radars can lock targets at zero closure speed (in all conditions). The F-14s radar most notibly suffers from zero speed clutter. How in the world you'd ask, that's because of sidelobe returns. When flying low to the ground, the ground right underneath you has a strong enough return (from your radar sidelobes) to clutter the 0 m/s speed region. The ground underneath you is essentially always moving with you at the same rate. Most modern radars do not have this clutter at all, it's just turned off in their code (I guess they filter these out using radar altitude data realistically speaking). In the case of the F-14, it's about a +/- 60 m/s region from zero speed you can't lock when cluttered, going to higher altitudes of course helps reducing the clutter. F-4J/S (and the Speys) suffer from the same issue, as well as radarsets with the MTI mode, maybe some other ones as well.

[@Mikestriken]

Yeah that part confused me, because I knew that closure rate was filtered in the F-14 from experience.

[@LugborG]

So THAT'S how the missile knows where it is.

[@poly18]

Hey Defyn, are you planning to do a video on the J-8F with the new missiles? Just want to know if it’s any good or not😊

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13:40 "the sigma missile" got me

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[@babch0]

yay, from now on I can finally leave 8.3 and go play toptier again (it will be painful quckly lol)

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[@LV3BRR]

I thought i knew a decent amount about fox 3s and defending, guess i didint

[@kingghidorah8106]

Defyn my dude, your animated infographics are insane. I remember when it all started with sideway silhouettes of props and the explosion emoji 💥now you animate radars and flight paths (edit even each missile's own silhouette too) . You's a man always improving, someone make him stop!

[@Evrimomono]

Larped my heart

[@WestwindKestrel]

Damn i'm early. 2 things that I think could be added is 1. Checking if canopy rolling can still be used to dodge and 2. a rough "matchup" spreadsheet where you fire two different radar missiles from equal starting positions and see which one reaches first (e.g. 530D vs. R-24R etc.). Also, try playing the Netz now lol.

[@amari2509]

Do ppl actually prefer this meta over the ir furball one?

[@srgabrielfb]

This one for sure, but i think Gaijin should make another game mode with furballs and everybody gets happy *suffering*

[@aerocraft3377]

@@srgabrielfb They did, I think it´s called arcade or something

[@srgabrielfb]

@@aerocraft3377 Nah it doesn't Work for top tier, They need the last realistic mode instead of the current arcade.

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We got Defyn teaching dcs Larp ‘tactics’ before the spotting system is fixed this is truly a moment of all time.

[@ViewerofContent]

Ngl I might just keep looping in props. 👍

[@ventischair9158]

Next Van Gogh? :O

[@BlackbirdDrozd]

Anyone else noticed after reduction of the multipath that the WT trees are like 120 meters tall? I was flying a mirage today and was using the cockpit radar altimeter that displays exact height from the ground and when I finally reached 60 meters (when the ground protection of multipath starts), I was like in the middle of the height of average tree in the map ...... 120m trees (like 400 feet) is probably too much for a tree :D

[@GoldRunner95]

I’m not gonna get to top tier before I die but I’ll watch this just in case I can play it in my afterlife

[@iliaskzls1232]

That's all good and stuff, but can you make a video explaining how to use the radar and missiles?

[@antoinespadone7834]

Could you make a video on any aircraft at 12.3-12.7 without any fox 3 like the M4K wich impossible to play in the current metha

[@nicolasalexander408]

Hi DEFYN, is there a video about how you got to learn so much about planes et al in war thunder? You have such a comprehensive knowledge as far as I can tell and are able to explain things in real time...just wondering? I got myself a F5-C, I've never had many jets and I do really like props tbh, but they are pretty cool though all the missiles stuff is not particularly relaxing.....

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I love cranking

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Our clan [NADH] thanks you...

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cranking my hawg