Dehydrator Drying Test II # 195

[@scottstubberud1137]

Great job again!! I am looking at dehydrators as we speak

[@TheWoodWhirler]

They work great, but you will need to control the temp. If you are not in a hurry use the lowest temp you can. The high temps can and usually cause more cracks. Take care, Larry

[@brianstapely1288]

I'm always impressed by how generous woodturners are with the knowledge they have gained. This is a classic example. Thank you so much. Brian

[@TheWoodWhirler]

It is wasn't for others sharing, it would have taken me a lot longer to learn this hobby. Thanks, Larry

[@brentgalon7883]

Had to buy one and try it out. Rough turned a maple bowl and cored it. Big bowl was 35%. So wet when i turned got a bit of a shower. Put in dehydrator at 115 degrees for 18 hrs. No reading on outside and inside. Bottom was 8%. So little warping and some hairline cracks easily fixed. Thanks for the tip. Enjoy your videos as well

[@TheWoodWhirler]

I use mine quite a bit, it works. Take care, Larry

[@MadStacks007]

I love how you explain everything, old school, I love it. You remind me of my daddy, thank you.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

It's just me, nothing is scripted. Thanks, Larry

[@bobkeller8383]

Thank you so much for your videos. All these other fools on youtube put out videos for likes views and money. They have to show off their video editing skills and always play crap music over everything. Yours are very well done. Informative precise and to the point! I truly appreciate your hard work and sharing of your knowledge as my goal is to learn.thank you sir.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

It's never about the money for me. If it was, I would starve. I don't like those who put on airs or show off and most of their music sucks. I am who I am and that's what you will always get. Thanks and take care, Larry

[@mmfenske1]

Hi Larry, I would call the two dehydrator projects a success for sure!! With the pith still in this project the small amount of cracking is very understandable and nothing that I would blame on the dehydrator method. I watched your first dehydrator video 3 days ago on Wednesday and looked through the upcoming Black Friday sale fliers and found a Gourmia GFD 1950 Dehydrator for $89.99 vs $129.99 retail...Amazon is $104.99. I was at the store Friday when they opened at 5:00AM and got one and they were gone fast. I immediately turned a Black Ash vase and tried out my newly purchased dehydrator and it worked very well. I agree the placement in the dehydrator is something that experience will help determine and the shape of the project may also play a large part as well. I just checked our woodwork in various rooms in our house along with several pieces of kiln dried lumber & plywood and found the moisture content to be anywhere between 0% to 9%. It might seem that expecting to always achieve 0% moisture content might not be realistic or even necessary. Thanks for the great ideas and I look forward to additional follow up videos. Take Care, Myles

[@TheWoodWhirler]

I agree, I would be OK with 6/7 or so. Thanks, Larry

[@bigdonniebrasco]

I'm so happy I stumbled across this channel! Makes me wanna come down there and learn from you ! LOL

[@chadvoller]

Love what you are doing, and I hope you do more long term experimenting with your technique. I've been using a food dehydrator for pen, bottle stopper, and pepper mill blanks for about 16 months now. And from my testing, its dry on the outside when you take them out in 24 hours, but not completely dry inside. Pepper mill blanks take much longer to get that inner moisture out due to their thickness, weighed daily until the weight loss is negligible. Depending how long they sat in the garage before I grab them, I've seen up to half the weight lost during the process. Not sure if that will affect your finish or not, but they may need to sit until they reach an equilibrium with moisture throughout. Wrap it in a plastic wrap, let it sit a week or two, and test for moisture again. Try with a scrap piece, and cut it in half and test for moisture along the cut. Maybe with a much thicker piece, so you can see how deep your dehydrator will penetrate in a given amount of time. Being dryer than the environment around them during our humid summer months, my blanks will wick that moisture out of the air. I've seen them gain back some weight just from sitting in the open air. Nothing you could feel by hand because of their small size, but easily detected on the scale within a couple days. Since my blanks are smaller, after I dry them, I put them in a large air tight container with reusable silica gel desiccant beads (the orange to green color changing kind found on Amazon) with a grate above them so they don't make contact. This keeps them dry (and then some) until I can use them all, or if I decide to continue the process on chosen blanks in a toaster oven for stabilizing.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

I only dry bowl blanks, about an inch thick. I think all you have to do is put thick stuff back in for another 24, and maybe another, they will dry in time no matter how thick. Thanks and take care, Larry

[@wakelywanderer12]

My guess is the increased thickness of the tenon is more likely the reason for the higher moisture level than positioning in the dehydrator. Maybe next time try a recess for comparison? Thanks for this info. I dried my first bowl using this method and put some sanding sealer on the end grain after about six hours to reduce the cracking. Ready to finish turn it today. Love your channel.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Being cherry probably had more to do with it than anything. Thanks, Larry

[@ThePapa1947]

Well you convinced me Larry. I just may need to go shopping. I am supposed to be getting some fresh cut Apple wood in a few days. The bowl is very pretty. I really like the cracks coming off the pith in the photo. Gives it the same character that wrinkles and white hair gives up old guys. Well not you maybe someone else I was thinking of. Take care Larry, Gary

[@mpart_woodlathe-stuff]

Perhaps you were thinking of me Gary 👴

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Are you hard headed Gary? It took me twice to convince you, boy am I slipping. Looking for to seeing you use it. Thanks, Larry P.S., I got the wrinkles, but not much grey hair. Gusss I'm lucky at almosT 77 Thanks, Larry

[@ThePapa1947]

Well Larry I have been known to be a bit hard headed...lol. Today I received some fresh cut Apple wood and some fresh cut Walnut. My nephews in-laws took took out an orchard of them, We cut the wood today. It is some kind of walnut grafted to Black Walnut. I think it is English Walnut. But I brought home a big load. I will need a drying method for sure. Let me see I think I saw a pretty good method on how to do that easily. Well I don't have gray hair either. It is all White now..It is pretty premature as I am only a few months from being 73. Take care my friend and thanks for the great method. Gary

[@waynegoff3776]

You sold me on the idea of the dehydrator Larry. I got one on the way from amazon. Thanks for the great idea

[@TheWoodWhirler]

All I can say is that of all the drying methods I've used and seen, this one works best. Thanks and take care, Larry

[@michaelmorris1451]

I like the drying process. Can’t wait to try it.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

it works, thanks, Larry

[@kennethwalker6138]

Watched both. Love the technique. Will definitely help me in the future. Thank you

[@moonwoodworks4607]

Very nice project there, that cherry really turns nicely.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Cherry is a pretty wood and turns easy too. Thanks, Larry

[@michaelmorris5525]

I have been thinking about using a dehydrator. Thanks, beautiful bowl.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Well, I'm thinking it works like a charm. Thanks, Larry

[@alanmullock381]

Great bowl Larry!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thanks Alan, Larry

[@terry3974]

Beautiful bowl and thanks for sharing your experiments.

[@PPMOCRG]

That’s a pretty bowl! Thank you for sharing.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

You are welcome, Larry

[@lesgallivan4159]

Ever think about a energy free solar dehydrator? 20 ft. Of 4 inch black abs pipe . Running on a 4ft slope , dehydrator box at top end . Sun heats air inside, heat rises creating flow ?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Nope, not worth the cost, effort or small savings. Thanks anyway, Larry

[@MadStacks007]

Always impressed with your work. Beautiful

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thanks again, Larry

[@daveb.misc.2589]

beautiful cherry bowl. good info on the dehydrator.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thanks Dave, Larry

[@markmunson6192]

What varnish?

[@tomasarguinzoni9022]

Beautiful bowl, thank you for sharing great info how dry the wood 👍🏼

[@TheWoodWhirler]

You are welcome Tom, Larry

[@cortlandhunt4721]

Great experiment Larry! A few months ago I was thinking about if a dehydrated would work. And now we know. 👍🇺🇸

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Yes we do, don't we? Thanks, Larry

[@Ronalcock1]

great tip there Larry, thank you

[@TheWoodWhirler]

You are welcome Ron, Larry

[@stevekosnikowski5884]

Larry, great idea! I tried it on wet redwood and it cracked bad! Maybe to soft a wood

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Perhaps your heat was too high. I use 95 degrees overnight. Take care, Larry

[@NianticRiverWoodcraftingChrisN]

Ok, i have wanted a dehydrator for a while. This was my justification. Picked up what looks to be the same or similar unit. Turned a 10 inch plate from oak at 26% moisture. We shall see what we get tomorrow. Added benefit, I see some banana chips in my future!

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Report back, I'd like to know. Never had banana chips, tell me about it. Thanks, Larry

[@NianticRiverWoodcraftingChrisN]

The Wood Whirler *** the plate dried to around eight percent with the expected warping, no cracks, which is unusual for me with oak. I’ll remount and turn it tonight. Fingers crossed...

[@JharrrisS]

I love your videos I'm new to wood turning I love how you tell the story of what your doing I don't like the music either.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Have you ever found woodturning in a music video? I didn't think so. Thanks and take care, Larry

[@gietm8240]

Hi there. Thanks for all the videos. What kind of tools are those you are using?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

It's been so long I really don't remember and don't want to watch me again. But, probably carbides. That's about all I use anymore. I can do anything with carbides that I can with gouges, faster or as fast and I don't have to stop 10 times and sharpen. Take care, Larry

[@mel6425]

Another informative video! Keep em coming. Also I ordered one of your Beavers off of eBay, man what a neat tool it is!

[@TheWoodWhirler]

They really work and will be your go to tool. Thanks, Larry

[@gaetancrepeault9333]

nice work the grain colors of the WOOD beautiful have one D... VERY old but trying

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thank you, Larry

[@kennyboothe7544]

Thanks for this video. After your last one, I found a dehydrator at a thrift store for $11. It's the round kind with multiple trays but I think it will work - I just need to find some green wood.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

You will have to cut the centers out of every tray and if it doesn't have forced air, i.e., fan, it will work but very slow. You might make it work, but I'd get my $11 back. Just my honest opinion, no offense meant. Thanks, Larry

[@kennyboothe7544]

@@TheWoodWhirler After seeing you trying to arrange the bowl to get better air flow, I decided to NOT cut out the bottom tray. The trays (about 5 of them) just have plastic bottoms so I can cut them out with a razor knife. It does have forced air and a range of 5 or 6 temps so I think it will work for a tinkerer like me. BTW, my nephew called today to tell me he has found me a pecan tree of ~ 14 inch diameter that was cut down about 10 days ago. :>)

[@stuartscott9646]

Pretty. Could you use something like bench cookies or sticker the blank to raise it up?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

My trays are adjustable. I am going to put the next one about half way up, up side down. It's a learning experience. When I get it right I'll post it. Thanks, Larry

[@donaldtrabeaux1305]

That works awesome you are another absolutely amazing master of wood turning love your craftsmanship, take care my friend god bless, how is Brandi miss seeing in the videos

[@TheWoodWhirler]

He right there, usually under my feet. In fact, I've covered him with shavings before, wish I had though of taking a picture. Still has pop corn with me most days. Thanks for asking, I'll tell him. Take care, Larry

[@mpart_woodlathe-stuff]

Great follow up Larry. Looks like you've (we've?) got a winner Yippee 😁 Thanks for doing this experiment 🙏 -Mike

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thank you MIke, Larry

[@Haroldp72]

i wonder will it dehydrate firewood

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Sure if it will fit inside it. See ya, Larry

[@tompuskar4426]

Nice follow up. Answered some questions I had on previous video. What brand dehydrator do you have and would you buy it again for this use?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Magic Mill, $129.99 on Amazon. I bought it because it had stainless steel trays, easy to clean and will last. The wood drying was a brain fart, that worked. No, I wouldn't buy it again, I would look for a bigger one. I can only put an eleven inch bowl in it, would like to go 14/15. Thanks, Larry

[@stevemitchell1265]

@@TheWoodWhirler Here's a larger one: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YZG07SU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It has 11 trays so you can get a 14-15' dia bowl in it at an angle. It also has a better controller than most of them on Amazon in 3 ways: It can adjust the temperature by 10x or by each degree. In addition, you can set the timer for up to 99 hours for each cycle, unlike 15-24 hours like most. The third way this controller is better is that it can do 2 cycles one after the other without human intervention. For example, you can program it for 167 degrees for 4 hours and then automatically drop to 115 degrees for 32 hours, which allows for more experimentation in finding what woprks for different species/thicknesses, while cutting down having to fuss with it so much, once you find out what works. Larry, still interested on makeing some beaver tools for you. [e-mail]

[@stevemitchell1265]

Larry, after getting the Sedona Express from Amazon, I can see how, with some sheet metal work, a guy could take a stock dehydrator unit and expand the case to take larger size bowls, or more pieces of wood. Basically7 you are using the controller and fan(s) over into a new (larger) cabinet. Some units on Amazon have 2 fans instead of 1 fan. That might be needed on a larger cabinet to keep things dryig evenly, and can easily be added.

[@mitchellmanning7887]

Thanks for sharing

[@charlesfalk9574]

For your dehydrator,maybe if you made a thin platform with nails sticking up that the wood would set on the points. This would allow air to reach every place but the nail tips. Great work as usual.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

My trays are adjustable. I will raise it up about half way and up side down next time. Thanks, Larry

[@emmettbowen4431]

Larry, what dehydrator is this? Does it have a fan inside?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Magic Mill and yes it does. Thanks, Larry

[@tomsommer54]

I put a 2 inch cutting board in my dehydrator yesterday. I was going to give it a couple of days. I did 125.What do you think?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Sorry I didn't answer sooner. I fell and broke my pelvis. YOu probably got it out by now, did it warp?

[@tomsommer54]

@@TheWoodWhirler I’m sorry to hear about your pelvis. I hope you are doing ok. I took it out after 2 days. There were a lot of deep cracks and cupping. After putting it through the planner, I ended up with 1 inch with still some cracks. I hope your doing ok.

[@jimstricker9084]

Another good video Larry when you get all the bugs worked out I guess we will go dehydrator shopping laugh out loud I have been only turning for a couple of months would you have any ideas why when coring out a bowl when I get to the center I always seem to get catches?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Never done that, but my best guess would be that you are pushing too hard. Remember the center is really turning slow if any. Take your time and let the cutter do it's work. Thanks, Larry

[@reinerjakel8950]

Hi Larry. I found your first video using the dehydrator by accident, Love the idea and actually purchased a dehydrator and put an wet Oak bowl in there a few minutes ago. I set it for 19 hours at 113 degrees. Hope that is right , I find out tomorrow. Have you done more testing and if so what is your advice on time and temp. I am a new subscriber, thanks for your great content.

[@fckmunch]

How did your oak bowl turn out? Any bad cracks?

[@reinerjakel8950]

no cracks at all

[@jeffwalters3735]

Hi Larry. I just discovered your channel and love it. I really like the dehydrator method for drying. Can you tell us the inside dimensions of the dehydrator?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

12"W X 9"H X 13"D. I didn't buy it for this, I wish it was bigger. Thanks, keep watching, Larry

[@glor8545]

can you tell me what brand of dehydrator you use? I think this is great idea. happy new year.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Magic Mill off of Amazon, $129.95 see ya, Larry

[@erocgr00t6]

Excellent test and follow up. Thanks for the great idea. If I may, I do cringe when I see you wearing gloves while gripping the jacobs chuck. I hope it never get a catch and starts spinning. Off to Amazon now so I can order a dehydrator myself :)

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Have you ever had one spin with bare hands? If so you would understand. Jacobs chuck will tear you a new one, gloves are very safe. Thanks, Larry

[@erocgr00t6]

@@TheWoodWhirler No sir I have not but I don't generally hold the chuck when in use. Great videos by the way.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

@@erocgr00t6 Well you should, at least have a lose grip on it. If it comes out of the taper while whirling and you don't gain control, you best get out of the way. Otherwise you may get hurt, bad. That's the reason I do it and I don't have a tight grip, but I am ready. Thanks a lot, Larry

[@glor8545]

thanks for getting back to me on your dehydrator. I have looked on amazon and I could not find one that was 15 inches wide, I thought you said that was what yours was. could you be kind enough to give me them model number. thanks joe in calif.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ML4ZJQP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[@gietm8240]

I recently seen people roughing out green wood into a bowl then submerging the bowl in denatured alcohol for a day or 3 then dehydrating. Have you tried doing that? If so were the results worth the effort?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

No, and I don't think I will. Might be hazardous to your health with a spinning electric motor that sparks, Boom!!!!! Take care, Larry

[@ronniehyde6649]

To deal with the air circulation problem in your dehydrator, you may try putting nails through little blocks of wood to hold the nails upright, then set the bowl on three or four of them, just enough to lift it off the bottom.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

The selves are adjustable, just have to adjust them. Thanks, Larry

[@howdshedothat3182]

I love the crack sealer, but instead of a stick, I'd use a safety pin. Stronger and thinner. Love you videos and have subbed

[@johnnyspropshop]

Great looking bowl, dehydrator is working well. How about use your new logo on the laser, would look spiffy.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thanks, when I get time I'll convert to a line drawing and we will see. Thanks John, Larry

[@moonwoodworks4607]

Where did you get your dehydration box?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Amazon. Thanks, Larry

[@Lee-qp6gf]

Keep going, Larry. you a;most have me into this. lol Ya, Cherry likes to crack. I single turn and about 25% will crack in time.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Sorta depends on how wet they are when you start, the wetter, the crackier. Thanks, Larry

[@SteveC38]

Nice Job Brother!

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thanks Steve, Larry

[@dirtycurty1202]

If you are getting the moisture down to 0% the wood will absorb moisture from it's natural surroundings so wouldn't that make the wood crack?

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Maybe, but the cherry bowl hasn't yet. Being well sealed probably keeps that from happening. Thanks, Larry

[@SomeDudeOnline]

Anyone ever attempted this with Manzanita? I love manzanita but getting it to dry without extreme splitting and and cracking seems almost impossible.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Sorry buddy, I have no idea. I haven't even heard of that kind of wood. Take care, Larry

[@bartman59laj55]

I’ve been watching your videos and enjoying them muchly, I do have a question tho, where did you come by your “beaver”? Did u make it or buy it? Thanks

[@TheWoodWhirler]

It's my own creation. I made it from raw materials. Didn't copy anyone. Thanks, Larry

[@EricRush]

At 13:40 "...three pounds, eighteen ounces..." It was 3 pounds, 1.8 ounces. So at 16:45, it didn't lose 1 pound, 10 ounces. Nits aside, interesting experiment. I'll be on the lookout for a cheap dehydrator.

[@garymaynard7562]

Another beauty !!

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Thank you Gary, Larry

[@dondeere]

i have more lumber than i could ever turn ,like i said i have just staeted using the lathe i have not usrd it but a very little

[@billorlowski5473]

No disrespect intended. Around here we call your part 1 & 2 bowls dog bowls. - straight sides outside and inside. Take a thin chain or a strings, hold ends and bring ends a bit together. That curved shape is what the fellow members of the local guild is what is looked for. - just my 2 cents of comment.

[@TheWoodWhirler]

None taken, but I still don't know what you are talking about. Thanks anyway, Larry

[@billorlowski5473]

@@TheWoodWhirler You have straight sides inside and outside. On the inside, the bottom has a right angle corner at the bottom. Up in my area, it's like an ellipse inside and outside. I can't attach a photo for you in this reply. You do explain what you do, which many viewers certainly appreciate. Thank you. Bill.

[@dondeere]

beech is very bad to warp but beautifil

[@spindlesworkshop9744]

Call your mama......great vid

[@TheWoodWhirler]

Well, did you? Thanks, Larry

[@spindlesworkshop9744]

@@TheWoodWhirler LOL unfortunately I cant