DELTARUNE Chapters 3-7 Analysis and Predictions

[@Goldpro42]

So, let me talk about the Church for a bit. As you guys have informed me, Rudy tells us in Chapter 2 that they're going to church the following day (Saturday, Chapter 4). Obviously, this is an important detail to miss. I already knew we'd at least be going inside of the Church at one point, since Toby's Twitter concept art about fruit juice lines up with Alvin's dialogue about fruit juice in Chapter 1. However, the Sunday theory is of course thrown out the window, and as you guys have pointed out, the day in which you go to church doesn't necessarily have to be on a Sunday anyways. So, to change my predictions a bit, I now think the Church and Flower King chapters will be swapped to Chapter 4 and 5 respectively. I think the Knight is going to turn the church into a dark world sometime on Saturday morning, so that when everyone arrives, they'll be stepping right into it. Also, the bishop theory (which I was not aware of) is very interesting. However, I'm also kind of wondering if the Church is even going to become a dark world at all? Maybe it'll just be another Saturday hometown event (like QC's) that'll take place before Kris and Susie discover the real dark world. Not sure how I feel about this, but I think it's definitely worth a thought. Also!!! At 7:41 I say that the cars honk the song Metal Crusher from Undertale, however upon listening to the entire honking interlude, I've come to realize that it plays multiple songs from Undertale, including Undyne and Flowey's theme, two characters that definitely have nothing to do with with the chapter. However, Metal Crusher is the only song that is very easily discernable, so it still may have been a nod to which character is connected to the chapter.

[@moltengears7483]

this video is insanely entertaining. good job

[@moltengears7483]

also are there any hints about where the other humans are in deltarune? are there still 6 dead people?

[@RADIANTR3D]

what if ch 4 happens in sans house somehow cuz it is blocked off.

[@goese868]

Also Shabbat in judaism is on Saturdays. It's only really christianity that places so much importance on Sunday specifically, and although Christianity and the deltarune religion is supposed to paralel, i don't think it's that impoartant.

[@Error_Redirect-666]

Quick question, it is highly likely that Sans's house is the exact same one that was in Undertale, so have you considered Sans's lab?

[@aimfulRenegade]

Flowey: "No! you're supposed to obey ME!" The seven human chapters:

[@MattTheGoofy]

THESE JOKES SHOULD NOT BE FUNNY. WHY ARE THEY FUNNY HELP

[@colon44]

@@MattTheGoofy: "No! These jokes aren't supposed to be FUNNY!" The seven Soul Jokes:

[@TheSkyGuy77]

If Chapter 7 has the patience soul, then the bunker being opened then makes a lot of sense. "Good things come to those who wait" and all that

[@GIitchMin]

Bravery and Patience have waited 8 YEARS AND A HALF ALREADY… (Unless you count the Split soul or Orange/Blue projectiles.)

[@SpamDustt411]

*ɹǝʍolɟ ɐƃǝɯo*

[@evilness3404]

The Bunker (its a shelter according to the files) seems like it's going to be chapter 6 due to its heavy ties to Gaster.

[@evilness3404]

@@GIitchMin i think split soul might be just turned into the patience soul.

[@MatheoZ14]

@@Acid_ic994 It was an expression before the people who wrote that song were even born.

[@tapok2008]

I'm 100% sure after several years, when new chapters will come out, we will look back at those "deltarune chapter predictions" videos and think "how stupid we were back then..." just like it was with all those chapter 2 predictions when chapter 2 finally came out

[@MissMisaQ]

Lmao this is so true 😂 and dont forget about all the fake trailers for future chapters

[@brastionskywarrior6951]

I dont think it will be as bad as chapter 1 theories

[@Videospiel-Man5730]

I mean the predictions for chapter two were: "And then in chapter 2 of 7 kris kills everyone" I think the current ones are better!

[@nate09392]

​@@Videospiel-Man5730 Yeah lol. I'm already nostalgic from watching 2019 Deltarune prediction videos saying that Kris goes on a rampage.

[@huskadog7748]

Oh absolutely

[@FlowFlow_2slow]

Ok so 1. In older traditions of Christanity, the holy day was originally on saturday, so church dark world could be possible. If chess theory was to be true, a Bishop or a Knight is the chapter 4 antagonist. Also, Rudy himself mentions that "They're going to the church tommorow" so that makes it an obvious pick 2. I think that Ice-e also could be a candidate for chapter 5 dark world, as Sans is the only character in Undertale that makes any reference to Ice-e (the crossword). And if we go with chess theory again, The Knight (who I believe could be Papyrus) would be after the Bishop, and guess who is the brother of Sans? Gast- Papyrus

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

I saw a comment that it’s unconfirmed that Papyrus is sans brother in Deltarune and that Sans brother could be a smaller sans called Snas Deltarune, so that’s my head cannon now

[@goese868]

1. Chess theory no work cause there are only 6 unique pieces. 2. Wtf you mean Papyrus is the knight? That's like not his character at all, and the knight is obviously Kris, we literally see that at the Ch2 ending.

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

@@goese868 A - most people usually say chapter 7 will represent the players, since it’s the final chapter B - there’s evidence that says that Kris isn’t the knight, there’s evidence that says they are, same thing goes for other character (including papyrus) you can’t say that someone is definitely the knight when, in my opinion, there’s probably going to be something next chapter that will give us defining evidence

[@goese868]

@@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo That doesn't make any sense tho. "The player" isn't a piece. That might've worked if chapter 7 was secret or sometging. But we like know it's there.

[@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo]

@@goese868 if you think about it, it makes some sense, Kris breaks free from the players control every chapter, the final chapter would have them break free permanently. We will see next chapter if it’s correct

[@Nubify2]

Its also implied that mettaton was the one who designed spamton neo. Swatch is an ms paint-like program, and has stated after the fight that he had helped a lightner create their dream body, only for it to left to dust up in one of the library computers. This lines up with your soul order theory, and that each color has sort of a link to their undertale counterparts

[@SkulkOfRoses]

I wouldn't really describe Toby and his small team taking this long to make and release Chapters 3 and 4 "development purgatory", honestly sounds more like impatience and growing accustomed to gamers being spoiled by teams that either overwork their employees, don't polish their games or are significantly larger, or all of the above

[@fgvcosmic6752]

Agreed. Considering how much news we've regularly been getting, its more Developer Heaven if anything. We're waiting for a polished experience and I wont ask for it a day earlier than it needs

[@FeliksTheGoblin]

I feel it should be mentioned that muffet was like a kickstarter character or whatever

[@gudmansal3468]

muffet is physically unable to appear in deltarune

[@officalcords]

@@gudmansal3468how come?

[@gudmansal3468]

@@officalcords toby fox does not own muffet and muffet is exclusively locked to undertale

[@whomdunit2457]

Oh yeeaahh. I always thought we'd get a green soul in ch3 because of Undyne's possible appearance, but this makes we more sense lol. Toriel's even cooking before the chapter ends and the kitchen is RIGHT next to the T.V. Room where the fountain is made lol.

[@Vylmyl]

Just pointing out that Toriel could have called Napstablook instead of Undyne

[@cherrybombwaffles518]

those Weather characters actually have their names revealed in an exclusive Valentines card. the Sun one's name is Lanino and the Cloud one's name is Elnina. they're an extremely lovey-dovey couple.

[@Goldpro42]

🥰

[@ohohoho249]

Oh that's gonna hit a nerve on Tori LMAO

[@cherrybombwaffles518]

@@ohohoho249 if the theory of Chapter 3's Dark World being Kris's way to help fix Toriel's relationship with Asgore is correct, then these two being an obnoxiously lovey-dovey couple makes so much more sense

[@ohohoho249]

@@cherrybombwaffles518 oh absolutely, I can already picture the amout of divorced puns that'll be in chapter 3 she's gonna be going THROUGH it- Hopefully they'll be some lore drop as to how Kris grows up and why Asgore and Toriel broke up (cough Dess lore cough), their dynamic is quite fascinating, plus we don't really interact with Asgore much in both games so this will be a good way to get to know both characters more (even tho the opinion might be one sided at times 💀) (I wonder if Tori is also a wine mom in Deltarune) Honestly I'm also looking forward to Tori's reaction on Relsie and being a mother figure to Susie hopefully, she deserves some motherly love dammit!

[@_Helix_Nebulous]

The souls order fits perfectly. In undertale we first find the Toy Knife and Faded Ribbon in the Ruins(Patience). then we find the Tough Glove and Manly Bandanna from the Snowdin Shopkeeper. (Bravery), then Ballet Shoes and Old Tutu in Waterfall(Integrity) Torn Notebook and Cloudy Glasses from Gerson.(Perseverance). Then Burnt Pan and Stained Apron in Hotland.(Kindness). Then Empty Gun and Cowboy Hat from Bratty and Catty (Justice). Finally Worn Dagger and Heart Locket in Asgore's Home.(Determination)

[@SpamDustt411]

FLOWER. OMEGA POWER. NOW PAUSE. GO TO THE EDGE OF THE WORLD. PLAY BACKWARDS. INTO THE DEEP DARKNESS. NOW PLAY WITH REALITY AND THE POWERS THAT ARE GIVING TO YOU IN A NEW WORLD. JUST LIKE A GIFT. THEN WAIT THE TIME IT NEEDS AND COME BACK LATER. YOU WILL GET IT SOON OR LATER. ON THE NEXT CONECTION. JUST REMEMBER. DON'T FORGET. COLORS, OBJECTS, PEON EQUALS VESSEL, CRYSTALS, EVERYTHING REGARDING THAT THEME. OR IF YOU WANT A MAYOR HINT. *FINAL POWER* BUT. USE THE OTHER FORM. *THE FIRST ONE INTENDED TO BE EXPERIMENTED.*

[@_Player123]

red soul is NOT determination

[@_Helix_Nebulous]

@@_Player123 It is, Then what should it represent?

[@Literally_a_X]

​@@_Player123 w h a t

[@_Player123]

@@_Helix_Nebulous it is unknown duh, but every human has determination

[@objectshowdude4458]

This is a good prediction, but theres one thing i could point out If chapter 6 is supposedly the chapter where asriel returns to hometown, i think it would make more sense for chapter 6 to be the flower shop, giving the ties that the shop has to the family, asriel and kris in general. And it would make more sense aswell as the chapter could focus on the family stumbling into the dark world and potetintally give more infomation about why toriel and asgore split up, and how its affected the family (specifically kris and asriel) But overall, this is a pretty solid video, good job! 👍

[@adamk-paxlogan7330]

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[@ilykatara]

a couple things to add/predictions: - chapter 3’s soul is kindness, and in undertale their items were the burnt pan and stained apron - the apron also healed 1 hp for every turn. this really fits chp3 since toriel (likely the main character for chp3) is a cook and a healer!! also arguably the kindest character in the game imo - in undertale, green attacks usually just healed you- so i think that’s gonna be a big mechanic during fights. if toriel is a party member she might be healing us during fights by providing green attacks since she was a healer in undertale. alternatively, we might be getting heals during the secret boss fight, like how we got healing from the human souls during the omega flowey fight. this makes sense since Seam said our next fight would be extremely difficult. or our soul is going to turn green like it does during Undynes fights idk - chapter 4’s soul is perseverance, which fits since rudy is probably going to be a main character and he has to persevere through his illness (ik I’m reaching but lmao) - chapter 5 deals with integrity and sans+papyrus, so I think this chapter is going to deal with revealing the truth about a lot of different things like the skeleton brothers backstory, dess’ disappearance, why asgore and toriel divorced etc

[@goese868]

I hate the idea of the Ch3 main character being Toriel or having her as a party member. Cause isn't Deltarune supposed to be like playing Dnd or having adventures with your friends? I don't want my mom with that. Also she's an Undertale character and none of the main parts or dark worlds of the other chapters included Undertale characters.

[@ilykatara]

@@goese868 just because the other chapters didn't include undertale characters doesn't mean the future ones won't?? there's only been 2 chapters lol.. toriel and asgore are definitely going to play a big role because they're kris' parents. so is asriel when he comes back; even though those 3 are all undertale characters. yeah having your mom with you doesn't sound fun but kris obviously did it on purpose. they wouldn't have opened a dark fountain otherwise.

[@PurplyWasTaken]

it would be such a toby thing to do to make napstablook come to kris’s house instead of undyne

[@BrightSwordBros]

I think it would make sense for the church dark world to be open on Chapter 5. Chapter 4 could open the church, which the player could visit during the services, but then in chapter 5 we would be able to go back after everyone has left and find a dark world there. Father Alvin could also be missing, setting him up further as the knight or a red herring for the knight.

[@PenguinPoo4246]

I might be wrong but I thought that in Deltarune the other ghost who is Metaton in Undertale drew the NEO body on MS paint before deleting it and that’s why it’s in the basement. This would give it a link to Metaton

[@nate09392]

What does everyone wanna bet regarding the release dates of the chapters? Before the July newsletter comes out, my current prediction for chapters 3 and 4's release is late October, as that seems like a reasonable estimate knowing the current progress of the game and Toby Fox trends. Toby will probably also release chapters 5 and 6 together, as it would make sense to release 7 alone as a finale. Assuming no more than minor progress has been made on chapters 5 and 6, it would be easy to hand another 3 years away, making the release date in late 2027. As for chapter 7, it's just one chapter, so i wouldn't predict that it would take more than a year to make. Late 2028. Anything goes for now until we get a proper release date for 3 and 4. 7/31/24 Edit: With the release of the newsletter, it dosent seem like the chapters will release any time soon. Read it yourself to see what I mean. My predictions will remain the same, except for Chapters 3 and 4 which will most likely release early next year as I see it.

[@augustdeer]

I think 5 might be released on its own, since the prior plan was to release 3-5 together

[@nate09392]

​@@augustdeer Yeah, maybe Fox's plan was to end chapter 5 with another cliffhanger, which is why he wanted to release 3, 4, and 5 together. But idk, maybe every chapter will end in a cliffhanger because with chapter 1 Fox hinted at Kris doing shady things. Chapter 2 is even crazier with revealing the next dark world. Can't wait for the next section's release!

[@valhund2629]

I think we’re gonna be closer to 2026 in terms of the release of chapters 3-4.

[@augustdeer]

@@valhund2629 that seems really pessimistic to me. He’s (theoretically) halfway through the polish of chapter 4, and chapter 3 is pretty much done. I can’t see it releasing past Q2 2025 at the latest.

[@nate09392]

@@valhund2629 I disagree with the 2026 notion. With the absolute worst possible luck, we'll get a mid to late 2025 release date, but I'd rather have hope and shoot for 2024.

[@worsty_worsty]

8:24 id like to add a note, yk how there is literally no crimes happening in hometown? So if thats the case, the police ( undyne or napstablook, both have a fair chance to be in ch3 ) Would immedietaly come to the house, thats unless kris did something else than slashing the car tires, ( or maybe they were protecting it from someone else? ) either way, kris or something else had to do something far greater than slashed car tires to devote the police's attention, that also the fact it took hours ( or atleast enough time for susie & toriel to get tired and sleep ) for the police to arrive, Thats it!

[@lybon6972]

Given Toby's ever shifting strategy of game release (chapter 2 switched to release as a free addition, chapters 3 4 and 5 being originally bundled but then 5 was dropped) I feel as though he might just be trying to throw us off. If people aren't super expectant and can have the game released as a nice surprise it might go better than having people anticipate and theorycraft even more heavily. I think it's very likely that the "internal deadline" for 3/4's release is halloween of this year, possibly undertale's anniversary instead (but less likely, it's much closer to July). From what we've seen before with his game releases, they are often out of the blue, and I'm imagining it's a similar deal. As for the soul colors theory, I think it has a lot of merit! I'm wondering if the restricted-line movement of the purple soul is supposed to be like the lines on a notebook? In which case the associated character might be different. I don't think Muffet is likely to return, partly due to her lack of mention and partly because she was a kickstarter character and maybe Toby didn't originally plan for her to be in the game. We don't know how much of Deltarune was planned before Chapter 1's release -- it was a 6 year project before the ch1 demo released and a 9 year project at ch2's release. I'm very very excited to see other gameplay in the form of soul colors. I doubt just colored attacks are enough to make it super novel, so I imagine taking on the color of the soul is going to be a more popular use of the mechanic. Seeing a patience or bravery soul form for the first time could be neat. Awesome video! Going to be checking back on this as we find out more!

[@zodiackiller1360]

I agree with most of your predections however their is one event you missed/forgot to talk about. Their is supposed to be a festival happening sometime during the week which is likely on either Sunday or Monday and i think its likely to be Monday since it would align with asriel coming home. So i think chapter 6’s dark world will be at the festival which would lead to chapter 7’s dark world being in the bunker.

[@SPAMTON_.G._SPAMTON]

0:25 WHY IS IT OUT OF RAINBOW ORDER MY EYES ARE BLEEDING PLEASE

[@gudmansal3468]

undertale had cyan, orange, purple, blue, green, yellow, red this is much better

[@Artism_vpn]

I think one of the best supporting arguments torwards chapter 3 having the green soul is that seam tells us we'll need the shadow mantle to beat the secret boss, item which could behave like undyne's spear from undertale

[@jenfkejl]

chapter 2 is still associated with mettaton since spamton is presumably using mettaton neos body in the spamton neo fight

[@jamalzahr2689]

I honestly think that the order for chapters 4-7 should be: Church, Hospital, Flower King, and lastly Bunker. You already mentioned the reason why Chapter 4 is the Church in the comments but we still have Noelle’s story to worry about in all these chapters and as far as we know, Noelle is an important figure in the Weird (Snowgrave) route. As for why the Flower King got moved to Chapter 6 is because that’s one of the projected days that Asriel comes back and as the chapter represents Bravery with Asgore in it (The one who used the mechanic in his fight), entering the back part of the Flower shop can be considered a brave move as it was boarded off. As for Chapter 7 being the Bunker, it makes sense as we are waiting for it to open and what major event can cause that? The roaring is a catastrophic event that definitely would prompt the opening of the bunker for safekeeping but with it being a dark world, it would be the penultimate finale as everyone is now included in the dark world (Still just a theory though). Why Patience is involved is down to a matter of waiting out the roaring and for us as the player, waiting until the bunker was finally opened for us to enter. I believe that this will be mostly part of the order but we still have to wait until the next few chapters come out so until then this is all we can really work with. If there’s anything I missed in this theory, please let me know and I’ll correct it immediately. This is my headcanon of what the chapters locations will be and thank you for reading.

[@mismatchingshoes5249]

the roaring will probably happen monday and asriel will show up on tuesday because in the proficy the human orince and monster only show up after the roaring you go into the bunker to figure out how to stoo the roaring and save the world either that or you go to the bunker after the roaring and see gaster talking about some experement or smth

[@Valetravelgames]

4:22 That's also what i've been thinking! i feel like those guys will DEFINETLY foreshadow that, considering Toby's attention to detail

[@frogchamp.]

"strictly tv-themed" The two couches that clearly were taken from Kris's bedroom;

[@mrslasher1064]

I'm calling it,chapter 5 is gonna be the Sans fight chapter,since it's my personal theory that Papyrus is the knight,he'll have a reason to be there if chapter 5 is going to be the knight reveal,chapter 6 I think is Kris going to the flower shop with Asriel to see their dad only to find that Asgore has been sucked into a dark world and chapter 7...yeah...

[@Sychke]

Let's go! Sick video, happy to see it!

[@speechruin]

omg sychke 👉👈

[@huskadog7748]

11:19 jews and some Christian sects go to church on Saturday, in fact worship on Saturday is much older than worship on sunday, as Saturday was the original Sabbath

[@2_leaf_clover]

Lowkey, I feel like chapter 7 will have the red soul, with the patience and bravery traits being combined into one like switching. I think if they were combined for a mechanic like that it would make a fun fight while still having the red soul or having all soul modes in chapter 7. For chapter 4 being the purple soul in hospital, I feel like the notebook lines could instead be reminiscent of a heart monitor. With the new type of mechanic for it being the waves. I feel like each soul mode is going to have an added mechanic. Such as maybe the green soul giving 2 shields. Just like how the yellow soul gave us a big shot instead of just normal shots.

[@Ovotun]

a BIG SHOT huh?!???!

[@FelisGalactus]

lol maybe they’ll bring back the Nintendo Switch soul

[@Williaq]

​@@FelisGalactusIt would be a good idea for a dojo challange

[@scootie_scoot]

the soul order prediction is so genius !! I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone bring this up for their predictions

[@auramaster2068]

I assumed that they had school off because of that festival thing rather than it being a weekend.

[@rawquikh0ney710]

The weather wands kinds remind me of those pointer sticks that school stores sold and teachers used them to point at things on a board teaching

[@starnemi6825]

i think thats what its based on

[@Agelessmaltose]

I always thought thee was some connection to the number of souls and the number of chapters and I'm SO happy someone finally decided to figure it out. Awesome video!

[@HiddenDesign]

I feel like we could actually get a Christmas release this year. It's just a hope, but with the deadlines soon, and releases typically around some celebratory date, I wouldn't say it's impossible.

[@sagacious03]

4:58 I'm surprised you don't consider the police station a candidate. Anyway, neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

[@krystelbeaulieu-thibault3621]

I doubt we will see Muffet in Deltarune as she was a kickstarter creation, someone's oc put in the game.

[@MIDdiveos]

There might be a carnival/festival dark world because of Susie mentioning it at the end of chapter 2. Well, we don't really know that much, so it might not show up. Great video though!

[@SandwichGoat]

I was actually working on a fangame for what a church dark world would look like, long story short i decided to use a "halloween" aesthetic for it. spiders and halloween are often associated with each other and there are graves near the church so it wouldnt be farfetched to assume that the purple soul will appear in the church dark world.

[@FranciTheGamer]

nice fourshadowing. that pinned comment you made might imply that there are 2 knights, kris and another person (kris made the fountain for ch3 and the other knight makes the ch4 fountain, suggesting the 2 knights create fountains one after another with kris making the ch1 and ch3 fountain and the knight making the ch2 and ch4 fountains or something)

[@subdragonkingthecubecraftguide]

Gastor might be the final boss considering about how many things in deltarune are assoiatted with him such as the noise appearing when you call on the phone in the dark worlds and of course entry 17.

[@Draginator]

7:30 Also it's been confirmed that the robot body that Spamton controls is actually just an ms paint drawing of Mettaton neo that the deltarune version of Mettaton made.

[@FREELOO]

Imagine if you ask sans about the communion and the angel and then he would do a very long pause and just stares at you and says "nah i dont believe in thst stuff" It would be crazy

[@FREELOO]

After all this is just head canon

[@okuraline]

PLEASE make more videos like this, this was peak

[@Guardian84]

So this is how crazy the fandom has gone while I’ve been away…

[@goblintwo]

“The items associated with the purple soul doesn’t give us many clues either” Except that they are sold at Gerson’s shop, the character who tells you about the Delta Rune and Alvin’s father. My money is on the church

[@AbsurdistLemon]

Not to mention that Gerson published a *novel* in Deltarune. It would be cool if the straight lines from purple SOUL mode alluded to passages from his novel (*or* from religious scripture, since we'd be in the church).

[@avriladam0404]

I’ve gone crazy at time point watching a video talking about predictions for a full game based on its demo

[@Ovotun]

We can go deeper to what one of the chapter 3 characters might be. the justice soul belonged to a young cowboy, right? and the justice soul was the soul used in chapter 2's secret boss right? well toby fox teased several stuff about a woody-like cowboy character for chapter 3. so since the kindness soul (which is probably the one for chapter 3) was used by a cook then by going with the logic i said earlier.... chapter 4 could take place in a restaurant! and besides there was an image for chapter 4 where kris and susie are in a restaurant. the church theory is good and all but a restaurant just seems to be the case here

[@Ovotun]

just realized how this theory made no logical sense at all lmao.

[@totallynormalclonewarsfan]

I'm thinking that chapter 4 will be in the church with my main piece of evidence being chess theory, I am a very big believer in chess theory and since the rook would be up next (In chapter 3) next up would be the bishop for the church. (And as a little bonus evidence, Tody initially wanted to release 3-5 at the same time as if they were part of some form of arc, and what comes at chapter 5? The knight, I think chapter 5 will be a big turning point in the story because of the potential knight fight.)

[@monkeyBOIIImysingingmonsters]

Poor switch soul. He always gets left out.

[@Xp366]

I’m guessing that the church will be chapter 5, since it would be on a Sunday

[@Wailbouzidi242]

the chapter 4 dark world is located in the church, hear me out for a sec: on the valentine's newsletter toby said that he can't share anything about chapter 4 without spoilers, so he showed a simple red solo cup walking, the thing is, father alvin mentions that the church often serves juice which, you guessed it, its served on a red solo cup. there's also the feather on top of the cup which represents writers and books kinda like gerson, and the one eye that is often used in religions as a holy thing idk tho

[@FeliksTheGoblin]

12:45 we haven’t actually heard who sans brother is, like never. We only heard he’s younger than him (?) and that they live together, I also think it’s papyrus but I feel like it’s important to point out

[@sictry47]

Ch 5: *janitorlovania starts playing*

[@cloverfromdeltarune]

Now: *my pp enters your butt*

[@Starcutter]

Chapter 4 might be entirely in the overworld, kinda reminiscent of Omori having non-dream world segments in "real life", could be cool to even kinda throw back and even use the undertale battle screen for its battles

[@Goldpro42]

That's what I thought at first as well. A Hometown-only chapter would certainly be pretty interesting.

[@CalvinNoire]

Toby Fox has confirmed in a newsletter, that Chapter 4 will be a standard chapter. The "rule-breaker" is actually Chapter 3. But yes, having the Undertale screen battle for the light world would be perfect. I hope Toby shows it off!

[@Unknown_User6107]

I think chapter 7 probaby is going to be the entire town as the full dark world, in which case its no longer a dark world but reality.

[@tasiapedro9396]

About theories on release dates, I agree with the potential release for the anniversary, but let me raise you another. HAve you’ve heard about Dess? If so, then if we really are going to expand on it and are trying to find her, then I can see them possibly aiming for December for the Holiday family.

[@emiliavalentino7226]

There are 2 arguments i want to make. First,there might need to be some connection with the bosses that used the soul mechanic in UT,as the neo body was made from a lightner's dream,wich is probably mettaton's. Second. The soul order might not be human falling order,but.soul encountering order. Like that it would be,yellow for MTT,then purple for muffet,than green for undyne,than blue for papyrus. Even if the orange and cyan souls are a bit of a problem.

[@chimitrash]

C h a p t e r 8... You know about that whole WD gaster thing? Theres a song in chapter one named "w" and one in chapter 2 named "d". Suprise surprise "WD Gaster" has 8 letters. PS. "d" plays during snowgrave.

[@greenberrygk]

I’m convinced that chapter 4 isn’t going to have a dark world because all we’ve ever seen of it is light world.

[@adamk-paxlogan7330]

W vid can't wait for the next chapters 🎉

[@thatoneidiotcurrentlyliving]

don’t forget, ch3 might have napstablook instead of undyne. if you ask me (outside of the green soul theory) it makes more sense to give napstablook the spotlight. undyne is the only monster we’re able to tell about the dark worlds, which implies that kris wants her to know about it. if you ask me, this is going to be a bit larger to the plot and it wouldn’t make sense for undyne to believe it all. napstablook also has a smaller role in undertale, so it’d make sense for toby to give them some spotlight. plus, in ch2, mettaton asks us to bring something interesting to him, so i could also see napstablook somehow tying into that loose thread. furthermore, (although this is a bit of a stretch,) napstablook and shyren are seen to be friends in true pacifist undertale, and the song of the sea that onion-san is talking about is implied to be shyren (due to her being gone ch1 and resting her voice in ch2), so maybe napstablook can have something to do with that???)

[@freekenjaku]

During chapter 2 when you visit rudy in the hospital, as noelle gets ready to leave he says to her "I'll see you in church tomorrow." which would push your timeline up a day (I checked this on my snowgrave save so the dialouge may be different in the regular route, but I doubt it.)

[@e-and_]

did not expect you to discuss deltarune but I'm all for it

[@callumsmodellingcentre6902]

ever since i played it, hearing video essayists use UTY music makes me so happy

[@emiliavalentino7226]

I am very sure ch6 will be the bunker. Why? Gaster and 6 of course!

[@Ovotun]

good connection

[@visthj]

So a little mention of Mettaton (not about ms paint spamton lore): If you get the LoadedDisk that's used for summoning Spamton NEO into the light world, then you can go to Mettaton's house to talk about it and they tell you to come here TOMORROW, with bold yellow highlight. So that means we got some content for ch4! What'll be on LoadedDisk in the light world? A program for launching Mettaton's NEO body (if they still have it in Deltarune of course)? The copy of that original paint/swatch Spamton drawing? A copy of Undertale? A COPY OF DELTARUNE INSIDE OF DELTARUNE? *GAST-*

[@EpicGaming12843]

I have an idea for Chapter 3. Mike will be the antagonist, and Tenna will be the secret boss. This could be vice-versa, or maybe they both rule the dark world.

[@ryomahoshi643]

I’d like to argue that church taking place on the day of Chapter 4 might actually be good evidence for it being the one with a church dark world. I think the idea of way more than just a few lightners getting sucked into a dark world, and therefore the existence of dark worlds becoming common knowledge throughout hometown, has a lot of untapped story potential and could raise the stakes and tension of the narrative dramatically.

[@ClevorTrevor12]

Theory- chara has the pactience soul. I think it would make sense that when a monster dies after taking a human soul, the soul would fall out of the monsters body. So if this was the case, asgore took chara`s soul, aka the patience soul after asriel died.

[@TheSkyGuy77]

So chapter 7 will have patience? Hmmmmmmm nice

[@Linolerigolo]

Fellow Susie megalovania trusters, ASSEMBLE

[@Nyabot-mh2zi]

6:31 holy moly its peak (clob :) )

[@emma_stuart]

- kindness comes next in the soul order - green soul appears exclusively in undyne’s fight - toriel calls the cops that night when Kris opens the fountain ….dark world undyne?😃

[@evilness3404]

I think the back door in the Flower King shop might just be another entrance potentially? Im growing more and more unsure of it as a potential dark world location rather constantly. As a little deranged theory: I think chapter 3 may not have any police show up, and instead have the Mayor who seems to like taking care of buisness herself & sees the police as an obstacle. This ties into the implications that Kris did a LOT more than slash Toriel's tires (it took a while for Toriel to get through to the station, maybe there's a lot of calls) and politics bear saying to cause a crisis before you can get to see the mayor. This is supported by a cut theme from chapter 3 using the lost girl motif. Another chapter 3 plot thread that I think will occur is Susie getting closer to Kris and Toriel. Its a natural progression of Toriel's characterization in Undertale where she takes care of kids and Susie is hungry all the time and seemingly avoids her apartment. 4th is probably the Church. Rudy says he was cleared for going to the church "tomorrow" as of chapter 2. Its also a perfect time for Noelle (as one of our main protagonists) to get further development with her father, Kris, and Susie. Potentially, a church dark world would make quite a few other people get stuck (although this could be a reason that the church is avoided as an option). Asgore could still show up in this chapter (or even chapter 3) and it would make the Susie conversation in QC's diner make sense, shes seen both of Kris' parents by that point. A church dark world would also be the perfect time for a bunch of exposition, followed up by even more in chapter 6. Chapter 5 could be the chapter where we get the Knight reveal (to the main party anyways. Its Kris, im pretty confident in that one.) But I have no clue where it would take place and its one of those wild card locations at the moment. Im also pretty confident in chapter 6 being the bunker. The number 6 is heavily tied to Gaster and so is the bunker. The bunker is also a place with some sort of importance to both Noelle & Kris' storylines (which seem heavily linked). As an extra suggestion, chapter 6 could be based off dragon blazers (which is itself an in-universe representation of deltarune). This would tie into Noelle's connections with that game and finding hidden secrets within it like the door only she can find in icepalace. I think the Gaster plot itself might be relegated to the shadow crystals and if you haven't been doing them you won't find anything about him. But if you are collecting them you'd basically have an extra subsection similar to the True Lab from Undertale detailing his experiments with Dark Worlds. Maybe you get a key to open the door only Noelle can find? The Dess subplot will be explored in this chapter, whether expanded upon or completed. If dragon blazers is the inspiration for any chapter, its also the chapter where Ralsei will leave the party in the normal route, but not the weird route as per the hospital dialogue. Whatever inciting incident causes chapter 7 will happen at the end of this chapter. Chapter 7 is just odd. Mainly because the prophecy itself is odd. (What the hell is the ANGEL'S HEAVEN anyways??? Is it the same as the Roaring? Why seperate them with different terms???) I think the general theme could be based around the entirety of Hometown or more specifically the Festival. I think the lyrics "Don't Forget" are themselves a refrence to this occuring. Either way, the party will go through a Darkness infested and dying light world and end up at Worlds' Edge to seal the fountains and banish the Angel's Heaven. As for the ending I think its possibly still too esoteric to be guessed. I think at this point most subplots will be somewhat completed as long as you did everything. - Genuinely have no clue how the weird route will turn out. Spamton implies that going through with it will actually grant Kris or the player freedom but at a terrible cost (rip berdly). If third entity theory is correct (evidence unfortunately points to it being correct as much as I dislike it) this freedom could be from the third entity or fate as a whole. Noelle (who is ranked #1 person most likely to create a fountain in the normal route) is terrified of Dark fountains in the weird route and is hinted at probably taking a more antagonistic role to the player. Berdly is dead and the tone of the light world could drastically shift in the next few chapters once its noticed that he never showed up to his shift with ms boom and never went home. So much could change in the weird route but I expect one of three things to happen: Noelle either avoid dark fountains entirely from now on, starts messing with the party in them, or a continuation of chapter 2 where you freeze people. Maybe chapter 7 gets skipped entirely and the game ends on a dreary note, apocalypse was avoided but everything is terrible now.

[@arivbf]

these are some amazing theories, thank you for writing about all this haha

[@Saelendious]

08:20 I guess you missed out on accidentally saying "his" bathroom window because you go right back to they/them afterwards

[@Riceyricericeyay]

I think GoldPro is defo going somewhere with chapter 4’s locations ngl 🔥 (each location involves perseverance in some way or another which is fun btw)

[@allstarspixel]

there are those flowers in that 1 newsletter that could be the soul order

[@erihpav]

i never thought about kris opening the door for undyne to come in thats genius

[@flameofvictory4305]

Chapter 3: Kris’s house Chapter 4: QC’s Diner Chapter 5: Church Chapter 6: Roaring Chapter 7: Roaring part 2

[@insertfunnyandoriginaljoke3417]

There’s a chance chapter 7’s dark world isn’t a new one. My guess is that it’s gonna involve fully exploring the storage closet given the locked areas in the castle itself and the really mysterious beginning area. With the main fountain there it’d make sense for it to be the finale too.

[@ahmedmax8389]

9:12 MY JAW DROPPED HOW THE FUCK DID I NOT NOTICE THAT AT ALL

[@Disorder2312]

Yeah, i also started to think that Chapter 4 will be Flower Shop, and Chapter 5 will be the Church. After all, the blue soul is associated with Sans, who appears in the last corridor, a place that looks like a church, and even has bell sounds. I would want to see chapter 5 so much after finishing chapter 4, but it's a good decision to release chapter 3 & 4 first, so we would have more time to theorize. But hopefully chapter 5 will come alone.

[@jaydapugpug]

personaly I think for chapter 4 will be the hospital, there are purple flowers next to rudy (telling us the relationship of noelles family with both her parent within the chapter), for chapter 5 I think asgore's shop will be next, sans was in jugment hall next to asgores thrown room, asgore was hiding more in undertale than we got "able to beat undyne", so sans and asgore meating together only for the knight to show up seems likely and the world will be around these two's relationship as well as the reason asgore and toriel got devorced, the 6th chapter I think will have the church, the whole game is about religion and having the last dark world being, till the roaring seems the most likely and the seventh chapter will be the roaring or you vs kris+friends as your the angel in the prophecy. And the bunker won't be a chapter but a secret!

[@TH-jq1dt]

my predictions chapter 3: the tv chapter 4: sans shop/house chapter 7: bunker

[@k-fey6642]

We will have Sans or Papyrus in the Flower King because he came to deliver free pickles

[@R0nnieR0tzz]

I wonder if Asriel is gonna find out about the dark world. I also wonder if Toriel is going to find out as well. I'm also hoping to learn more about Susie and her home life. That'd be a good video idea btw if u have theories on her :3

[@ericsanduprisacaru7655]

I'm not 100% sure of this prediction, but I feel like the game will have a circular story. The ending matches the beginning, so it makes sense why Susie said "Your choices don't matter".

[@SpamDustt411]

GOOD TIME TO SPLIT EVERYTHING 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥Theories (and Headcanon i have about Chapter 3 and 4 (mostly 3)); Mike it's the Main DarkWorld Boss on Ch3, [[Rook using the Chess Theory]], just Like King and Queen (idk if think if he's gonna be referred to as "Prince", would be funny) and he forgot almost everything from the start of Chapter 3 (He's the person that wrote the super rare letter on valentine's day event [[AND IMAGE_FRIEND, YOU'LL HAVE TO READ TO UNDERSTAND!!!]]), also, he's Inside the TV (or, he's part of it and other stuff on the house, a lot of ideas) he's a friendly and good leader, after the years he was happy entertaining Lightners and some Darkners, but, after someone at Kris' house turned OFF, and Unpluged the TV, the darkners and him (just a lot of them) lost their purpose and don't get used by the years, so, he got in a state of "OFF" (also Tenna Too), he had Spamton, a Cowboy, A Dragon Girl and Tenna like Friends years ago, [The Cowboy and the Dragon aren't important for Lore in general, but mostly for Mini Bosses, and all of them were actors], Tenna was in love with him, but she didn't say anything about it, but, because Tenna was an important friend of Mike, and then, because Mike needed someone to help him, and he wanted to help Tenna in some way, she was going to be "promoved" to Rook too (Yeah, Two Rooks here) but, she wasn't promoved at the end because things happened... something was making Mike a different Darkner, one mostly mean and wasn't even paying attention to Tenna anymore, getting her out of his Tower [Castle-Tower] and she was abandoned, then she got on OFF state after some time with Mike after Chapter 3. The thing that make Mike go like that way was Image_Friend (I know, it's supossed to be Spamton in the Basement, but, i really want to have this idea, and also, it's not only present there, there was a unused Berdly attack sprite where, if you got luck, that face would appear on his attack, so, still using the idea) This entity was created by gaster and it's something similar to the Knight, and his pure purpose it's to keep Darkners with their mouths shut if they are trying to say something related to Gaster, or if they met him, or, if they know anything important about the Knight too revealing, that's why he lefts parts of him inside some Darkners or tries to brain control them by any ways possible, so he mostly it's the Secret Boss here, with Spamton, he uses literally his eyes to tske control of him mostly, because, after Mike "dissapeared" [was OFF] Spamton was decaying, and then Gaster appeared to tell him the truth, and, as his job, the Image_Friend left something in Spamton, making he don't say anything (also, changing his personality, just like Mike) to something more similar to him, a Egocentric and mean being, and for Chapter 3, Gaster now finds Tenna, tells her the truth of the game, and as Spamton, tells her to get power or Freedom someway, and, now Image_ Friend has to take care of Tenna, and (almost) controls both Mike and Tenna (mostly Tenna now) and he renames himself just Tenna [name of the girl Tenna would be something like "AnTenna" or "RamTenna" complete] just taking the Tenna thing, so, in mind, Image_Friend (and the girl Tenna) make something to Spamton, or, Tenna was jealous of him and she treated him so bad lol (Mike X Spamton real) Tenna got Divorced 😭, that would be the Lore of Chapter 3 mostly, anything like the Woody Theory i take it now mostly like something real, but, not 100% accurate, i take something at least possible, maybe like having the Woody Character like Mini boss, a normal one, also, was thinking of other Mini bosses (Just like the Dragon Book combined with the Godzilla Movie, i haven't seen anyone saying anything about this lol) and the Miniboss would be a Dragon-Godzilla girl dressed... Well, you know. on a action movie like that at the first (maybe) parts of the Chapter Lmao And then i don't know what to think about Ice Palace, but (maybe) i think it would be probably combined with the discarded boss of asriel, like, there's a videogame area and there's a glitchy character or characters that are cheap copies of characters from nintendo like the Yoshi or a Red from Pokemon, i would like to see something like that! (Also make the concepts lol) I would talk about other stuff like, A Cooking show, The Trashcan, etc, Ch3 it's too much lol, but i love it. And, talking about the Connection of Mike and Friend Image, obviously the mind or just control in general isn't that obvious, but, i hope toby makes the Secret Bosses and Main Darkworld Bosses connection more stronger, and more obvious in some way, because, at the end, in every way or form, they're connected to gaster and the Knight, so, i hope toby make the gaster's connections even more evident as the Chapters keep delevoping. Ah, The time it's fast approaching, hopefully I'll try my best to make content of my ideas! (I don't have much of a thing about Chapter 4) just the idea of: Ch4: Church Darkworld based mostly on Literature and Music, 2 Bishops, (and 1 Secret boss, not a Bishop, really i don't have the idea), Alvin and Rudy are going to be on the Darkworld (also maybe Noelle) and i hope the bishops are gonna be more related to the Knight and they are gonna introduce us the idea of the angel and, they are gonna try to change and make Alvin belive this ideas, and make him (maybe) a villian. (I would talk about it, but, it's really weird not having so much info about it, also, there are people saying it's Asgore's Flower Shop) but, i think and hope that's Chapter 5. I think i'm gonna left it like this, if i keep talking in detail about the Knight itself and Gaster in general i'm gonna explode lol (Thanks if someone read this complete, and sorry if i had mistakes at writing!1!1!) I really love Deltarune, and i'm really excited for the next two chapters!

[@JudeEaley]

Green soul shield = Shadow Mantle

[@TheFunnyDanger666]

Objection for chapter 4 the tortle guy said curch was tomorrow

[@-TheCheeseMan-]

9:09 know toby we'll probably be bringing nabstablook with us instead if undyne

[@weewooweewooee994]

DUDE SANS AND PAPYRUS IN CHAPTER 5 WOULD GO SO HARD

[@AddiTheGrea]

As much as I want this I have a feeling Toby's gunna pull a mini sans

[@naoseipou]

​@@AddiTheGreawhat about the trousle of bones when you interact with the door of the house

[@autisticTreadmilleater]

@AddiTheGrea "toby fox would do this! *something that makes zero sense and he would not do*"

[@autisticTreadmilleater]

i think it's the church because of the fruit punch, the cups, and not everyone does church on sundays. .. i feel like it'd work better for chapter 5 though, as a pre-endgame loredump before we get into spooky gaster stuff

[@chronicallyasleep]

ok, i get your theory on the fact that noelle's story will end in chapter 3 or 4 in the hospital or something but i personally like to think not, at least in snowgrave. the way i like to think of it is that noelle will be a mjaor part of the story, at least in the snowgrave route. yes, in a normal route or pacifist route, her story and importance may end sooner in upcoming chapters, but in snowgrave, i think personally that noelle might even end up killing her own father in ch 4 or 5 due to what we can see happens to her mentality in chapter 2. she gets so locked into her trance that she barley notices berdly is her friend for a moment. if she does end up killing her dad in this weird route in the future, this means that noelle will probably be a big part of the Roaring, because if she gets far gone enough to the fact that she kills her dad, (i know this is far fetched but bear with me on this one) she'll probably be far gone enough to be taught by kris themselves how to open these dark fountains, not taking into account what'll happen if she does open them up, and end up being the said angel that is being worshiped in the church, and bringing about the Roaring in chapter 7. also IF she IS angel in the weird route, she would be the final boss alongside us, the player because we're the ones making her "stronger", not kris, so she might be kept in our trance and end up fighting with us in the roaring against kris, susie, and ralsei, or whoever. Kris might not actually be the person to show her to open these fountains, and we, the players, would probably be the people to show her a better world where she can be stronger. hell, if they ARE the ones to show her how to open dark fountains, it would probably just be like how chara learns to direct you towards killing in the Geno route in undertale, they both learn killing from you, the player, and they learn how to show you closer to it, weather it be a kill counter, or showing a killer ally how to bring about the roaring. this all just my speculation and wonder. (and a little bit of hope because i find snowgrave really interesting so i dont want this one chapter's weird route to go to waste) i'm just trying to think.

[@Theking-vx6zp]

I dont think that the soul color of a specific chapter will really affect the chapter's setting and characters. We have to keep in mind that the soul colors are probably only going to be in the secret boss fight of every chapter. Chapter 2's setting was not even slightly connected to the yellow soul in any way so its pretty far fetched to assume that chapter 5 will take place inside of sans' house or store just because it has a blue soul.

[@Oli7311_]

Yep yep, all this makes sense to me - fair theories!

[@jakubtrapp3509]

wth will even is the orange souls abylity?

[@fgvcosmic6752]

8:05 Isnt the Purple soul from Muffets fight the one closest to Mettatons Yellow? Surely Undynes was much Earlier in Waterfall, rather than Muffets in Hotland, right?

[@fgvcosmic6752]

Oh right, this is reverse flowey order, I guess?

[@Goldpro42]

I'm assuming that the order they appear in omega flowey's fight is the real order.