"The Other 9/11": Ariel Dorfman on 50th Anniversary of U.S.-Backed Coup in Chile That Ousted Allende

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Democracy Now!

Democracy Now!

Күн бұрын

We look at the 50th anniversary of what is sometimes called the "other 9/11" - the U.S.-backed coup in Chile, when General Augusto Pinochet ousted President Salvador Allende and inaugurated almost two decades of brutal military rule. Allende died in the presidential palace on September 11, 1973, marking the end of Chile's first socialist government. During Pinochet's military dictatorship, more than 3,000 people were disappeared or killed, and some 40,000 more were tortured as political prisoners as Chile remained a close partner to the United States during the Cold War. "We're still living in some sense under the shadow of Pinochet, and of course we're living under the gigantic light … of Salvador Allende," says renowned Chilean writer Ariel Dorfman, who served as a cultural adviser to Allende from 1970 to 1973 before going into exile following the coup. His latest novel, "The Suicide Museum", explores the mystery around Allende's death and whether it was a suicide or murder.
Transcript: democracynow.org
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@seansmith3058
@seansmith3058 Жыл бұрын
After America's 9/11 there was a widespread headline: "Why do they hate us?" Chile's 9/11 and the events like it give you part of the answer.
@marieromain1076
@marieromain1076 Жыл бұрын
Go further down in history. HAITI 🇭🇹 1915...
@24299
@24299 Жыл бұрын
True.
@godoffuckyou
@godoffuckyou Жыл бұрын
And the fact it was called ground zero. taking over the names of the original ground zeros, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
@gmw3083
@gmw3083 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine 2014. DC is already looking for a way out of its latest failed exploit. Blaming its flunkies in the Keeve regime. Russians, ukronotzees, and everyone from everywhere are already inside the belly of the beast. Americas homeland security surveillance state won't know what hit it....
@EyFmS
@EyFmS Жыл бұрын
"Hate" is a strong word to use for people in Latin America. If it was hate coming from South America you would have terrorists attacks done by Chileans, Argentinians, Brazilians and more. Ironically one of the largest Chilean diasporas is located in the USA. I think it's more disappointment coming from a country that was supposed to have the same values of emancipation, liberty, justice and despise for imperialism. But i suppose time changes...
@ADAMSIXTIES
@ADAMSIXTIES Жыл бұрын
I attended a 15th anniversary in 1988 at St. Ann's church in The Bronx. Now it's 50 years since the kissinger-nixon-pinochet coup and the former is still here age 100, and not in prison for war crimes.
@patricktutu5844
@patricktutu5844 Жыл бұрын
He ( Kissinger ) even won the Nobel Prize for Peace ie. The Nobel Peace Prize.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
So did Barack.
@boontan1039
@boontan1039 Жыл бұрын
​@@patricktutu58440A1 ²p
@24299
@24299 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. How many more are they responsible more? Too many to count. Many we know nothing of. It's not right. And their reasons are B.S.
@jakepistolero
@jakepistolero Жыл бұрын
American-pinochet Why must most americans refuse reponsabiity for their gov??
@Juan-ud3if
@Juan-ud3if Жыл бұрын
How Many Children, their Fathers, Siblings and Mothers has Kissinger Slaughtered in his 100 Years. Does he Fear his Grave?
@cracktower3613
@cracktower3613 Жыл бұрын
Oh, you got that right Jaun. 🍀 Thank you, Needed to be said - Again, 🌎 thank you.
@polarfamily6222
@polarfamily6222 Жыл бұрын
What your fear are facts. You must really defend terrorists.
@AliceBowie
@AliceBowie Жыл бұрын
Antisemite
@JJsabenada
@JJsabenada Жыл бұрын
He should
@louisgonzalez8846
@louisgonzalez8846 Жыл бұрын
I wish kissinger lives a lllloooonnnnnnhhhhh life, and never has a peaceful nite.!!
@patrickgoldsmith4407
@patrickgoldsmith4407 Жыл бұрын
I was friends with Ralph Dungan's kids- after he left Chile & became Chancelor of Education in NJ. As Ambassador to Chile, he was against the coup d'état. MANY Americans were against the coup. Kissinger has much blood on his hands.
@chuckdeezy_313
@chuckdeezy_313 Жыл бұрын
America has a way of things.... cover up and ignore things hoping people forget and facts get forgotten
@manfredneilmann4305
@manfredneilmann4305 Жыл бұрын
He should be treated as a war criminal despite his age!
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh Жыл бұрын
Kissinger in Vietnam too...
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh Жыл бұрын
And inn iran we had this 3 week before 911 in 1953🇺🇸🇮🇷
@ronaldturner4849
@ronaldturner4849 Жыл бұрын
Interestingly I'm also remembering how Putin poignantly reminded America, not long ago, about the American army's sadistic massacre, at Wounded Knee, of an entire community of innocent unarmed Native people, women, children, elderly, the disabled, and babies, already captured and helpless in front of the Gatling guns of the US military. Putin properly shamed and disgraced America by pointing out how our country does not come to the negotiating table with clean hands!
@lynnpallais4132
@lynnpallais4132 Жыл бұрын
Shame on us for so many things, Iran 1950s, Chile 1970s etc. Central American countries OMG
@andrewlong4894
@andrewlong4894 Жыл бұрын
shame on us for the negatives...maybe some people should give thanks and praise for the positives which far out numbers the negatives BUT you will not see or hear ANY about them here or while the Left controls the message and narratives
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine 2014.
@araa767
@araa767 Жыл бұрын
Pakistan 2022
@Johnconno
@Johnconno Жыл бұрын
Your governments can't help themselves and you won't stop them or their friends.
@monicasmith923
@monicasmith923 Жыл бұрын
Africa
@rdsyafriyar
@rdsyafriyar Жыл бұрын
"Workers of my country, I have faith in Chile and its destiny. Other men will overcome this dark and bitter moment when treason seeks to prevail. Keep in mind that, much sooner than later, great avenues will again be opened, through which will pass the free man, to construct a better society." - Salvador Allende 🇨🇱
@josedejesustorresmunoz588
@josedejesustorresmunoz588 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏 It sounds like his last famous words minutes before being murdered…👏👏👏👏💪🏼🇨🇱
@ivanohemartin
@ivanohemartin Жыл бұрын
"I will pay with my life the loyalty of the People"- Salvador Allende 🇨🇱
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
Chileans should respect individual rights. @@ivanohemartin
@RoguePr1nc355
@RoguePr1nc355 Жыл бұрын
"If you believe enough in democracy now, and tomorrow, and the future, then you will be able to defeat the dictators of now, tomorrow and the future" -Ariel Dorfman, beautiful statement!
@AlternateKek
@AlternateKek Жыл бұрын
denocracy is a false god
@peterp5889
@peterp5889 Жыл бұрын
Ariel is great man and today is the day devoted to Allende's Spirit and message*
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 Жыл бұрын
​@@peterp5889COMPARE THESE TWO ARGUMENTS "Islam endorses war (jihad) to impose its law (Sharia) across the world. Therefore Islam approves killing people across the world. Muslims are dangerous - your Muslim neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local McDonalds." _"Liberalism endorses war (e.g., colonialism, humanitarian intervention, military occupation) to impose its law (international human rights law) across the world. Therefore liberalism approves killing people across the world. Liberals are dangerous - your liberal neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local mosque."_ Why do so many idiots find the first argument logical and compelling, while they find the second argument illogical and absurd? Aren't both arguments illogical and absurd? *Do you want to know why the US is broke and subject to an increasingly totalitarian surveillance regime?* It is because the American people allowed themselves to be duped by absurd arguments into endorsing the "Global War on Terrorism" - spending 8 trillion dollars and agreeing to give the government unlimited surveillance/policing powers in the name of "fighting terrorism/extremism" as characterized by the first argument above..
@curtrice6060
@curtrice6060 Жыл бұрын
I am a freedom fighter. I’ve lost every battle, for the last 80 years.😢 The oligarchs always win 😫🤪😫👿 !
@peterp5889
@peterp5889 Жыл бұрын
@@curtrice6060 this time they're going to lose I give you a Word of God for it! And it shall come to pass
@sarahtelles1931
@sarahtelles1931 Жыл бұрын
The far right need to no longer have any say in any country.
@romanboxing3959
@romanboxing3959 Жыл бұрын
Andddddd……the far left can’t. Like in Chile 😂
@sarahtelles1931
@sarahtelles1931 Жыл бұрын
@@romanboxing3959 the far left is way different than the far right, I think you meant centrists
@ivanohemartin
@ivanohemartin Жыл бұрын
"I will pay with my life the loyalty of the People"- Salvador Allende 🇨🇱
@peterp5889
@peterp5889 Жыл бұрын
Self fulfiling professy
@notyourcultist
@notyourcultist Жыл бұрын
May Chile never be forgotten just the same as those lost in Manhattan on that Tuesday morning.
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 Жыл бұрын
Liberal modernists and feminists will feign outrage, but their moral system is what creates this situation. Liberal principles of individual choice, female empowerment, and destruction of patriarchy create a society of people who have no family to take care of them in their old age. The liberal feminist solution to this problem is to create more welfare programs. What this means is that they want the elderly to live alone in what are essentially pods, their only human interaction being with "care" takers to check if they're still alive once a week. Let me put it like this. The only human solution is for the elderly to be surrounded by loving family in their old age. The only way to get that is patriarchy, gender roles, and other limitations on individual freedom. But the liberal mind cannot allow any of that. So the elderly will continue to suffer and liberal feminists and modernists will continue to pretend like they care about humanity.
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan Жыл бұрын
Both 9/11’s took place on a Tuesday
@godoffuckyou
@godoffuckyou Жыл бұрын
the equivalent of all lives matter.
@marieromain1076
@marieromain1076 Жыл бұрын
May all terrorist attacks. In all forms, NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.........
@d.bcooper2271
@d.bcooper2271 Жыл бұрын
@@ecoRfan COMPARE THESE TWO ARGUMENTS "Islam endorses war (jihad) to impose its law (Sharia) across the world. Therefore Islam approves killing people across the world. Muslims are dangerous - your Muslim neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local McDonalds." _"Liberalism endorses war (e.g., colonialism, humanitarian intervention, military occupation) to impose its law (international human rights law) across the world. Therefore liberalism approves killing people across the world. Liberals are dangerous - your liberal neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local mosque."_ Why do so many idiots find the first argument logical and compelling, while they find the second argument illogical and absurd? Aren't both arguments illogical and absurd? *Do you want to know why the US is broke and subject to an increasingly totalitarian surveillance regime?* It is because the American people allowed themselves to be duped by absurd arguments into endorsing the "Global War on Terrorism" - spending 8 trillion dollars and agreeing to give the government unlimited surveillance/policing powers in the name of "fighting terrorism/extremism" as characterized by the first argument above..
@Mullins20
@Mullins20 Жыл бұрын
Nations, too, reap what they sow. Justifiably. America will never learn the concept of humility. There's no good ending for such an arrogant nation. It is slowly decaying.
@LUIS-ox1bv
@LUIS-ox1bv Жыл бұрын
Rubbish. Was it arrogant for America to storm the beaches of Normandy, France and turn the tide of the War in Europe? As a nation, America is statistically among the most genorest and beneficent in terms of financial and material aid to other countries and peoples in less fortunate circumstances. Your hatred and bias, has been rewarded with blind ignorance. In such a state, you too will fall.
@keensab
@keensab Жыл бұрын
Throughout my life, I have been in and out of Chile. I know how the upper, middle class and let's include the arriviste, think. Yes, it is a left versus right struggle but over there, it's mainly a class struggle. The class system is so deeply ingrained that it would be safe to say that there are two Chiles. The aversion to socialism by the well-to-do was ingrained in the social system. Of course, the powers that be, beyond our borders took advantage of this fact and became victorious because of it. I am a centrist (not neutral) therefore it allows me to see things without the blinders of extremism. The elimination of Allende and the progressive implementations of Pinochet's "Chicago Boys" have altered the Chilean identity. Chile has been a commercial hub where the love of money overtakes any social mores that made Chile unique. I grieve for what Chile has become.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
I'll let Uncle Ari talk about Chile. She is the love of my life but I'm Ukrainian- first and foremost. What I wanna say is this. What Uncle Ari calls " the dictators " and what I " lovingly " call the Blake Association doesn't care one bit about how " a- political " you are, how loyal to Soros and Co you are- if it suits their purpose they're gonna turn on you on a dime. I need them to really understand that. In 2013 before the coup I was literally doing " What Is In My Bag " on KZbin. Didn't " save " me or my loved ones.
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Жыл бұрын
Tienes todo la razón, vivo aquí y observó lo mismo. La identidad nacional y la valoración de la democracia son dos valores medios perdidos, se valora solamente el "éxito" económico, la plata fácil. Sin embargo no está todo perdido ya qué vi mucha gente joven en la conmemoración de esta triste fecha. Muchos no olvidamos y queremos saber más sobre este complot contra la democracia.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
Socialism will fix this. LOL
@marieromain1076
@marieromain1076 Жыл бұрын
THANKS. Democracy NOW for continuing to EDUCATE.
@MuddyPoppins
@MuddyPoppins Жыл бұрын
More like propagating lies.🤡🌎
@andrewlong4894
@andrewlong4894 Жыл бұрын
riiiiight, to CONTINUE to do something you have to be already doing it. 98% of Democracy Now is propaganda, false narratives and lies supporting their obvious agenda which is to manipulate the American people and destroy America from the inside.
@stephenjohnson5121
@stephenjohnson5121 Жыл бұрын
Pro Marxist propaganda, not Education
@marieromain1076
@marieromain1076 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenjohnson5121 DOWN with the malignant tumor, destroying our civilization., IMPERIALISM....
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
green marxism@@stephenjohnson5121
@zombiehampster1397
@zombiehampster1397 Жыл бұрын
Ah Kissinger. That monster casts a looooong shadow. We'll be in it for some time. And he lives to a 100+....why? lol no justice and no karma imo.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
He's on Zelensky's " Mirotvorets " kill list.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
Kissinger planned this war with Putin. They met over 14 times. @@tatianalyulkin410
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
Kissinger was working for Nixon, but nobody criticise Nixon. Extrange!
@Juan-ud3if
@Juan-ud3if Жыл бұрын
How can Human's Do Such Unspeakable Cruel things to Fellow Human Beings? It's Just not Justifiable. We're All Humans, We Share this Small Beautiful Ball of a Planet. Why do we have to Destroy Everything, All Human Beings, All Life. Why Can't We All Live in Peace and Share the World ?
@grovepeate3316
@grovepeate3316 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you ask Planned Parenthood,Joe Stalin,Mao,Hitler,Or any President from LBJ to Biden.
@YUMLiberalTears
@YUMLiberalTears Жыл бұрын
How can people speak like their sentence is one long book title? Probably a better question for you to be asking.
@manfredneilmann4305
@manfredneilmann4305 Жыл бұрын
​@@grovepeate3316You mention figures like Hitler and Stalin along with Planned Parenthood? Are you kidding?
@Politics-ww5sc
@Politics-ww5sc Жыл бұрын
@@grovepeate3316 Planned parenthood, the number on killer of black lives. Planned parenthood has more kills than all of them added together.
@outerlimitz67
@outerlimitz67 Жыл бұрын
The Human Race Must be Put down
@ericquiabazza2608
@ericquiabazza2608 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, as an Uruguayan i hear the suicidal tale more, as is the more inpactfull. Yet never trought it as a lesser act, as i know, if he was arrested he would be pupeter or humiliated as an example. He daying by his own hand, mark to me the steel of his soul and rebel determination
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Жыл бұрын
Lo hubieran asesinado igual. Hay grabaciones en Pinochet lo platea... " se va en avión y este tiene un accidente..."
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 6 ай бұрын
Nope, just suicide.
@chukwumaoriuwa281
@chukwumaoriuwa281 Жыл бұрын
This is how USA promotes democracy
@louisgonzalez8846
@louisgonzalez8846 Жыл бұрын
For usa democracy = dictatorship. That is their mantra.!!
@JB-dx7fk
@JB-dx7fk 7 ай бұрын
Being anti-communist? I view that as a win win
@MrDXRamirez
@MrDXRamirez Жыл бұрын
“ The Battle of Chile” is a live documentary film shot at the time of the actual coup. Incredible documentary. Costa Gavras’s “Missing” , adapts Ed Horton’s story of his son, Charles Horton, killed in Chile during the coup...a chilling film....must see. Ed Horton, a Manhattan native, was played by Jack Lemmon. I saw these movies in 70s and never forgot them.
@curtrice6060
@curtrice6060 Жыл бұрын
Me too 🧐 but we have been unable to stop 🛑 our leaders from sinning 😈😝😫 !
@johninman7545
@johninman7545 Жыл бұрын
A culture of Sadism. The Patriarchy is Sadism. A Sadomasochistic Macho Cult Of Death
@st.michaelofcigarillo2845
@st.michaelofcigarillo2845 Жыл бұрын
Pinochet was right.
@st.michaelofcigarillo2845
@st.michaelofcigarillo2845 Жыл бұрын
Only communists cry about this.
@imthebadguy3225
@imthebadguy3225 Жыл бұрын
He knew how to handle a liberal.
@ReelNotFake
@ReelNotFake Жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a novel about Allende. Thanks for this!
@sorinm.popovici7842
@sorinm.popovici7842 Жыл бұрын
The original 9/11, never to be forgotten.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
lol
@MrTee-de7to
@MrTee-de7to Жыл бұрын
As an American citizen, I was so ashamed of our country. Our foreign policy at the time forced countries to turn to the Communists because it was our way or no way.
@MaxwellGriffin001
@MaxwellGriffin001 Жыл бұрын
You're brainwashed. "our way" or "no way"...no, that's not true, and you know that because of all the countries in the world that do not do it "our way" or "communist way" and are doing fine and have lots of trade with our country and other countries. If you want, I can break down how much of what Ariel Dorfman is wrong, and I don't know if he just chooses to cherry pick to fit his narrative or if he's more active in rejecting verifiable facts which are there.
@ahoggan230a.k.a.SweetSunset
@ahoggan230a.k.a.SweetSunset Жыл бұрын
Makes you not want to vote democrat doesn't it
@codycigar6542
@codycigar6542 Жыл бұрын
​@@MaxwellGriffin001Didn't Allende's later years as president come with mass hyperinflation and supply shortages?
@Supertaldo916
@Supertaldo916 Жыл бұрын
@@codycigar6542yes, once the CIA started to fund the Trucking Strikes and the artificial shortage of goods there was an economic recession.
@codycigar6542
@codycigar6542 Жыл бұрын
@Supertaldo916 Cope. Allende's policies were shit.
@LUISARAMOSCRICK
@LUISARAMOSCRICK Жыл бұрын
I think of Chile often, and I remember this day every year. Pinochet's coup took place 7 months before we, in Portugal, had the carnation revolution, that freed us from 50 years of fascist dictatorship. So Chile was very much in our minds on April 25, 1974, and it still is.
@patricktutu5844
@patricktutu5844 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.
@labeebulshah8424
@labeebulshah8424 Жыл бұрын
But not Abdul Sattar Edhi
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
So did Obama!
@leskuzyk2425
@leskuzyk2425 Жыл бұрын
One of what, 20 or 30 U.S. America backed changes to democratically elected governments around the world?
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Yep. And now we have Ukraine. " Oops, we did it again! "
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
The soviets were doing the same thing. They got the tanks in Hungry and Checoslovaquia.. The Chileans think they are unique. This has happens all the time, all over the world.
@andrewsullivan7753
@andrewsullivan7753 Жыл бұрын
Wow what a profound interview! What happened to Allende was very sad, I guess the world just wasn't ready for him.
@juanleahy2202
@juanleahy2202 Жыл бұрын
I find it hard to accept that Allende killed himself. He had a family & many supporters in Chile. Would it not be very convenient for Pinoche & the military to say that he had killed himself as opposed to being murdered in the coup d’etat! RIP all those who were killed as supporters of Allende.
@chloeuntrau4588
@chloeuntrau4588 Жыл бұрын
@@juanleahy2202 I am sure he was murdered.
@sammyo2583
@sammyo2583 Жыл бұрын
@@chloeuntrau4588 there are some serious questions that needs to be answered. The initial report was that he short himself,but Luis Ravanal has been studying the autopsy for four years, and he believes otherwise. Ravanal says he found details in the autopsy that weren't in line with the official version of Allende's death. The cranium, he says, shows evidence of a first shot with a small gun, like a pistol, and then, a second shot from a larger weapon - like an AK-47 - which could mean that Allende was shot and killed, then shot a second time with his own gun, to make it look like suicide.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
keep on obsessing about irrelevant nonsense@@sammyo2583
@sorinm.popovici7842
@sorinm.popovici7842 Жыл бұрын
Aka, the US.
@bituquinnabituquitan5686
@bituquinnabituquitan5686 Жыл бұрын
I can blame the US government. I do.
@HughJass-313
@HughJass-313 Жыл бұрын
The *United SNAKES* remains Undefeated 🔥🔥🔥
@thomasctteo6868
@thomasctteo6868 Жыл бұрын
WE FEEL YOUR PAIN .. MAY THINGS TURN AROUND N GETS BETTER N BETTER FOR CHILE. A NATION SO UNJUSTLY RAVAGED BY UNCONSCIONABLE N PEOPLE OF GREAT MALICE. MAY GOD BLESS ..
@rickc-137___
@rickc-137___ Жыл бұрын
Today is nine eleven And the government still hasnt been Held accountable.
@sandyhardy3419
@sandyhardy3419 Жыл бұрын
😢😢😢 I am 62 …this is eye opening …thank you for this report…
@brianreagan2471
@brianreagan2471 Жыл бұрын
Extraordinary story from Mr. Dorfman. Whoa! Well presented tale of his fulfilling of his legacy. I'm so glad DN is there to give these stories their due when all the other news sources can't be bothered. Love you guys. 😊
@HeiligBauernhof
@HeiligBauernhof Жыл бұрын
I did not know this...Thank you for making this public...
@dstuart5612
@dstuart5612 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Keep getting truth out. Love from Scotland.
@dmars7264
@dmars7264 Жыл бұрын
Kissinger is so evil.
@cob4467
@cob4467 Жыл бұрын
Terrible day for the USA . R.I.P
@N3oNexus_FKA_J4VASCR1PT
@N3oNexus_FKA_J4VASCR1PT Жыл бұрын
EVEN more terrible for Chile, the twin towers was only 1 day and 15 years of grief before people joked about it, Chile almost 30 years yet still grieving
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
@RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Жыл бұрын
Gracias, Ariel, desde Chile.
@liaotang1011
@liaotang1011 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for teaching us about the other 9/11 ❤
@ChrisRD526
@ChrisRD526 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Henry Kissinger is still alive at age 100 is really appalling.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
He saved the human race.
@sobeitsky5091
@sobeitsky5091 Жыл бұрын
lmao@@tuckerbugeater
@heinrichvon
@heinrichvon Жыл бұрын
17:18 - I have to say that I think the obsession with whether Allende committed suicide or was murdered by the attackers of La Moneda is *bizarre*. Why is it dishonorable if Allende killed himself rather than be taken alive (as I believe he did)? Pinochet forces, before completing the coup, allegedly offered Allende safe passage to Cuba and he refused. One might argue (though I wouldn't) that exile under those circumstances would have been cowardly. But how can his determination to remain in the Palace until the very end be cowardly? It seems like a macho or even a Catholic thing to hold him in contempt for reacting to a hopeless situation by taking his own life. In any case, the important thing is the way Allende lived, not the circumstances of his death. For me, Allende was a hero, and whether his enemies killed him or whether he did the job himself is totally irrelevant.
@mauricioochoa4179
@mauricioochoa4179 7 ай бұрын
Allende’s suicide was not cowardly. As he said before his death, he was not going to surrender. He chose death over fleeing the country or turning himself in to Pinochet’s forces.
@araa767
@araa767 Жыл бұрын
Nothing has changed actually, US is playing the same game elsewhere now, presently one of many US backed coup is ongoing in Pakistan, where a democratically elected prime minister was ousted by US backed military establishment, a renowned journalist was compelled to leave his country later assassinated in Kenya, another journalist is still missing probably kidnapped by pakistani intelligence agency, many journalist fled the country and taking asylum in West, more than 10s of thousands political prisoners in jails from months yet to be convicted, the only majority political party leadership is either forced in hiding in jail or disappeared, when all this is happening in one country the West and so called civilised human rights advocate countries are 🙈🙉🙊.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Once again you're " conveniently " forgetting Ukraine.
@araa767
@araa767 Жыл бұрын
@tatianalyulkin410 it's a tragedy of a nation when US topples a well functioning government and instate a weak, dependent, illegitimate ruler, they actual make the mockery of a nation that people don't matter, humans have no rights as long as a puppet is serving their interests he can do whatever he pleases, nowadays a comedian is playing role of a macho in Ukraine, what could be more ironic, they control the voice they control the views, we can just sit and watch whatever is shown to us.
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
This is been going on for thousand years, all over the world. It is nothing new.
@Retroicon13
@Retroicon13 7 ай бұрын
This is what the US does. They have army bases all around the world yet they are so worried about china
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Жыл бұрын
"Britain’s collaboration with the Chilean dictatorship continued in full knowledge of the atrocities being carried out by Pinochet’s torturers and executioners. The UK’s ambassador to Chile Reginald Secondé reported how “The extent of the bloodshed has shocked people,” but commented coldly of the repression, “the lack of political activity is, for the time being, no loss”." (WSWS)
@MookieDookie9000
@MookieDookie9000 Жыл бұрын
Both events involved our government
@Kristina_617
@Kristina_617 Жыл бұрын
💯
@HughJass-313
@HughJass-313 Жыл бұрын
the *United SNAKES* is a busy bee 😜😜
@carlhohn4802
@carlhohn4802 Жыл бұрын
To understand America is to understand this coup. America feels more and more foreign to me where everyone is out for themselfs and material gain is all that is offered. It is as if it is a lost soul.
@MayaX07
@MayaX07 Жыл бұрын
This has always been America. Since it's founding.
@greenthumb8266
@greenthumb8266 Жыл бұрын
I was 8 minutes in to your Top US& World News September 11 2023 when the video was abruptly removed , just now.
@jzoobs
@jzoobs Жыл бұрын
They took it down to issue a correction
@greenthumb8266
@greenthumb8266 Жыл бұрын
@@jzoobs thank you
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh
@Mohammadreza-rp8oh Жыл бұрын
Both had same source: 911 newyork and 911 chile 🌐
@jodywho6696
@jodywho6696 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Democracy Now. It's hard to see this. Can't imagine how hard it is to report it. ✨🇺🇸✨
@andrewlong4894
@andrewlong4894 Жыл бұрын
It is not hard for them whatsoever
@JB-dx7fk
@JB-dx7fk 7 ай бұрын
It's one sided. It's funny.
@Dani68ABminus
@Dani68ABminus Жыл бұрын
Wonderful guest, thank you!
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 Жыл бұрын
my friend and classmate in hs and college charles horman was murdered by the cia during the overthrow.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
My sincerest condolences. A dear friend of my godmother's, Jack Lemmon, played his father in the movie. And now we have another American- Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine- whose life is in danger for the same reason but Uncle Ari prefers to pretend that Gonzalo doesn't exist. Oh, well... Sooner or later everyone betrays everyone. And Dorfman was my hero. He and Michelle Bachelett. Guess not anymore.
@siamcharm7904
@siamcharm7904 Жыл бұрын
@@tatianalyulkin410 we were real competitors at exeter and both played cello. praying for gonzalo. bachlelett was chased out of un for not supporting the uygher hoax.
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
The revolutions are not a joke. In France, during the French revolution, even the líder Roberspierre died in the guillotine at the end.
@Africano-Oaxaqueno-Bandera
@Africano-Oaxaqueno-Bandera Жыл бұрын
Chilean 9/11/1973 is not the other 9/11 it the original 9/11
@efrainlazos3060
@efrainlazos3060 Жыл бұрын
Dorfman is a paradigm of lucidity in dark times
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Not to me. He's in bed with the Ukrainian Nazis.
@romanboxing3959
@romanboxing3959 Жыл бұрын
More like an evil commie thing. Communism is a dark abyss
@eliezerbenabraham6117
@eliezerbenabraham6117 Жыл бұрын
.....lucidity..?........he is lunatic,a leftist...... ask his opinion about Cuba... Venezuela... Nicaragua...China &....Tibet... actually Hong Kong..... TAIWAN.....
@labspeciman7402
@labspeciman7402 Жыл бұрын
So you tone down the American 9/11 by bringing up someting unrelated? This is very tacky. Maybe you should interrupt to talk about the slaughter of Native Americans. Maybe slavery. Anything to lessen the importance of the attacks on the trade centers. Maybe you could have done the stories an hour apart.
@Dylanesque
@Dylanesque Жыл бұрын
September 11, 1973. The death of democracy.
@JB-dx7fk
@JB-dx7fk 7 ай бұрын
Communism* I fixed it for you. Despite that... The beginning of a interesting regime.
@General_Proton
@General_Proton Жыл бұрын
A moment of silence for the U.S. Constitution slayed by the PATRIOT ACT in 2003 and buried by the WHO in 2020.
@Guitarman7133
@Guitarman7133 Жыл бұрын
YUP, AND MORE THAN THAT. TSA, DOT, HLS, ETC
@jawless7616
@jawless7616 Жыл бұрын
Why did you post world news headlines but then quickly remove it after 20 minutes?
@Dorothy47
@Dorothy47 Жыл бұрын
Thatcher made remarks about the Queen dancing with a Black PM and was later voted out of office. Thatcher was a racist, she had been head of UK's Education system and she was known as " Margaret Thatcher the milk Snatcher " by British school children when she removed the half pint of milk they got with their school lunch. This inspired President Reagan to economize and take away a vegetable in the American school lunch program.He said ketchup was a vegtable so they didn't need another vegetable. Actually, tomato is designated as a fruit ! Reagan also sent Tommy Sands to Thatcher and he went in a hunger strike and died in prison 61 pounds with his bones protruding out of his skin and had to be raped up.
@padajsiloinepravdo6299
@padajsiloinepravdo6299 Жыл бұрын
I remember thatcher gave Pinochet asylum and saw her on tv saying how great Pinochet was for stopping communism. Rightoid ghouls stick together
@sobeitsky5091
@sobeitsky5091 Жыл бұрын
us and uk are the devil on earth
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
What a load of rubbish!
@williammayhoperights
@williammayhoperights Жыл бұрын
no one commits suicide by shooting them selves 67 times in the back of the head![pausing twice to reload]. in Oregon we had a phrase 'murder by suicide' 'you have to serve somebody in the end, you will serve, it will be the truth and there will be hope, or a self serving lie, and damn yourself and humanity, but you will serve' quote, Roberta May Hope Caster, Hope under torture
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Жыл бұрын
Today we simply say they were Epsteined.
@BestFitSquareChannel
@BestFitSquareChannel Жыл бұрын
Remarkable… thank you… best wishes…
@rmcf1947
@rmcf1947 Жыл бұрын
Viva Allende
@ashebermulugata9
@ashebermulugata9 Жыл бұрын
American imperialism must be checked severely. Long Live Salvador Allende. Long Live Socialism.
@tmnt10000
@tmnt10000 Жыл бұрын
Then go live in North Korea or Cuba
@jo-annerichardson34
@jo-annerichardson34 Жыл бұрын
@@tmnt10000 that's not socialism in those countries. Why are Americans so ignorant about what Communism, socialism, so called democracy in the US which it really isn't, and fascism, which is what the GOP is all about. Educate yourself.
@kennethmorrison7689
@kennethmorrison7689 Жыл бұрын
Creepy Miton Friedman went in person to Chile to oversee the coup.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
So? We had Nudelman and Piett. Grow up already my beloved Chile.
@MortonT1958
@MortonT1958 Жыл бұрын
The interference in Chile was clearly a mistake on multiple levels. However, the magnitude of damage was far less than that caused by the NATO-led (US financed) intervention in Libya in 2011. Twelve years later Libya remains a failed state by any measure. Chile has an ex-pat community that keeps the Allende coup out in the global public’s eye, but in terms of scale and fatalities it is among the least costly compared to interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Haiti, etc.
@blackeyedsusan727
@blackeyedsusan727 Жыл бұрын
The "interference" in Chile cost millions of lives, directly and indirectly over decades to the present day. It forever changed Chile's destiny, and also further destabilised the entire LatAm region. The U.S. coup against this democratically-elected, pacifist president waa not the first of the U.S.' global atrocities, but rather a continuatuon of the horrors it had visited on LatAm alone (!) since the Monroe Doctrine. In sum, it's not a Victimhood Olympics. Regardless, every instance of U.S. greed, mayhem, and murder that has plagued those countries that have something of interest to the U.S. power base has been tragic and has lasting consequences for all of us.
@claythomas7982
@claythomas7982 Жыл бұрын
This was the CIA action.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Yep.
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
The KGB started, the CIA finish it. It was called the Cold War.
@ronnieriveros6067
@ronnieriveros6067 Жыл бұрын
TThe homer with the heart of gold. How abt talking what they did and what they r doing now. Hang the constitution so they can stay in power. This guy has no right to talk abt democracy. He is happy he is alive. Treator
@betsydonato6817
@betsydonato6817 Жыл бұрын
In memory of the 1973 Modoc protest and Tar Baby Act Hindsight 20 // 20 of a famous quote: Captain Jack 1837 - 73 Modoc War Chief I am but one man. I am the voice of my people. Whatever their hearts are, that I talk. I want no more war. I want to be a man. You deny me the right of a white man. My skin is red; my heart is a white mans heart; but i am a Modoc. I am not afraid to die. I will not fall on the rocks. When I die, my enemies will be under me. Your soldiers began on me when I was asleep on Lost River. They drove us to these rocks, like wounded deer... On himself, in Dee Brown, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee. Courtesy of the Dictionary of Biographical Quotation Alfred A Knopf New York 1978.
@mikebarbeau8569
@mikebarbeau8569 Жыл бұрын
There has to be a special place in hell for Henry the Kiss of Death Enger!!!
@dalpraned
@dalpraned Жыл бұрын
Salvador Allende was murdered.
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
So? So was Paul Robeson. So was Victor Jara. So was Pablo Neruda. So was MLK. So was Malcolm X. So were my parents and my brother. Your point being?
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
For millenia kings and presidents have been murder. Who was Allende the mesager? They killed Jesus the mesager too.
@leonardoribas3387
@leonardoribas3387 Жыл бұрын
Shame on the "democracy's herald" in the world!
@JB-dx7fk
@JB-dx7fk 7 ай бұрын
And communists are better? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards of people that don't know the history... Or their own.
@josedejesustorresmunoz588
@josedejesustorresmunoz588 Жыл бұрын
We’ll, I salute Dorfman for being critical of certain mistakes by the movement led by the great Salvador Allende, but he fails to be more critical of current US stands and mainstream stance against Latin American. Frankly speaking, I feel he’s become to Americanized and self indulged with his art form… At any rate, I still find him valuable in Academia for his overall body of work…, but somewhere he stopped being what Pablo Neruda aimed all his life: to “be Chilean in perpetuity”🇨🇱💪🏼👍
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
I know. He's silent on Ukraine. So is Michelle Bachelett. Oh, well...
@GeorgeJohnManouras
@GeorgeJohnManouras Жыл бұрын
Proud American history 😢
@bonitaroache73
@bonitaroache73 Жыл бұрын
The real question to ask after 2001; What's the proper Role of Government in our Lives after the fact?!
@mikefobear589
@mikefobear589 Жыл бұрын
Kissenger continues to be an American media star. Read about American Hisrory at the public library and it's a totally differant country. History class in Public and Catholic schools are extremely censored. America holds the worlds record for supporting / installing dictators...Not a tiny issue in American Tv industry.
@suckmemore
@suckmemore Жыл бұрын
Kissenger just a symptom!
@JillofAllTrades2
@JillofAllTrades2 Жыл бұрын
Nice piece. Interesting about Dorfman.
@martinsifuentes6585
@martinsifuentes6585 Жыл бұрын
Pinochet was the Zelensky of that time. Right?
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Of course our Uncle Ari doesn't think so. He's against the evil Putin. 🤣
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Like the first comment I got on Dorfman's board was " You're Putin's troll. " In 2014 the FBI was trying to convince me I was Victor Jara's troll.
@diegomontoya796
@diegomontoya796 Жыл бұрын
Venezuela is a socialist democracy. Glad we didn't interfere with that successful revolution.
@ArleeStarr-l6e
@ArleeStarr-l6e Жыл бұрын
A bit of irony there. Is there a democracy that was not interfered with, or overthrown by the U.S. because it wanted to keep its natural resources for the benefit of its citizens?
@louisgonzalez8846
@louisgonzalez8846 Жыл бұрын
Believe me diego, THEY TRIED.!!!!!!
@alejandrogm1588
@alejandrogm1588 Жыл бұрын
​@@louisgonzalez8846🤡
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
Venezuela is a poor country now, with 5 million refugees. I don't like socialist countries. I don't like poverty.
@JB-dx7fk
@JB-dx7fk 7 ай бұрын
Funny a lot flocked to Chile. Perhaps Venezuela needs a Pinochet to set things right.
@gladyg2026
@gladyg2026 Жыл бұрын
I always ask myself how could Allende committed suicide when he had a rifle? For me he was killed by the army no body was there to be a witness so they can say whatever they want.
@24299
@24299 Жыл бұрын
Everyone conveniently forgets all the other coups. 😠
@The_Slayer_1
@The_Slayer_1 Жыл бұрын
So Americans did this over there and no one held for accountability and now Ukraine
@tatianalyulkin410
@tatianalyulkin410 Жыл бұрын
Well, Kissinger is on the Mirotvorets. I know it's not much.
@The_Slayer_1
@The_Slayer_1 Жыл бұрын
@@tatianalyulkin410 thank you got an opportunity to look into Kissinger and the Ukraine makeshift army
@Andtuy
@Andtuy Жыл бұрын
Si hablas español me gustaría invitarlos a este canal, cuba es humanidad. Nos gustaría poder debatir con ustedes. Estamos en vivo todas las tardes.
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
Muy bien. Yo les digo a todos estos que dicen ser comunistas, que vayan a Cuba, pero no, prefieren quedarse en países de la OTAN viviendo bajo la bota Yanky. Yo les digo que mienten y que no son nada, solo son unos mentirosos.
@AsiandOOd
@AsiandOOd Жыл бұрын
not defending pinochet's dictatorship, but allende is known to be an authoritorian that disregarded the separations of powers. he was struck down by both the supreme court and the lawmakers in a vote. He also created socialist militias and disarmed right wing organizations, controlled emigration under his disastrous economic management, suppressed legal assembly in the public while allowing leftist groups to assemble with arms, nationalized many industries illegally, and suppressed popular protests against his actions. He is no means someone that should be celebrated. If he stayed in power, venezuela would've become chile's destiny. pinochet should be reprimanded for all of his targeting against political rivals, but he is no where near as terrible as allende was.
@sobeitsky5091
@sobeitsky5091 Жыл бұрын
stop spreading lies, all you have written has been declassified by the murikan gov
@AsiandOOd
@AsiandOOd Жыл бұрын
@@sobeitsky5091 tell me where im mistaken please
@sobeitsky5091
@sobeitsky5091 Жыл бұрын
everything @@AsiandOOd
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
Allende thought, he could turn Chile into another Cuba. He was a fool.
@YASER2Q
@YASER2Q 4 ай бұрын
"You can cut all the flowers but you cannot keep spring from coming" Pablo Neruda
@ryanyoung9202
@ryanyoung9202 Жыл бұрын
SO DISRESPECTFUL !!!! SHAME ON YOU DEMOCRACY NOW !!!!
@erickane7093
@erickane7093 Жыл бұрын
Got to change the laws that have been systematically challenged and eroded by corporate lawyers, that where the pass not bars, to hold back the corporate beast.
@pq7605
@pq7605 Жыл бұрын
Insightful discussion
@greendesertgoddess
@greendesertgoddess Жыл бұрын
It will take "The Shock Doctrine: . . ." by Naomi Klein to tell you all about it!
@hengee90
@hengee90 Жыл бұрын
Why was the U.S. and World Headlines news video deleted?
@dentonfender6492
@dentonfender6492 Жыл бұрын
Here take some dollar bills, you can wallpaper your shacks with them.
@HughJass-313
@HughJass-313 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@TheEr910
@TheEr910 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this history
@reason4beauty
@reason4beauty Жыл бұрын
You cant let America mourn???? 9/11 never forget
@johnkelly7217
@johnkelly7217 Жыл бұрын
Tragedy of American Diplomacy.
@manfredneilmann4305
@manfredneilmann4305 Жыл бұрын
You call that DIPLOMACY?
@louisgonzalez8846
@louisgonzalez8846 Жыл бұрын
John kelly means "a failed diplomacy"
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
When a country is in the sfere of influence of USA, can not go to the side of the soviets. The same happens with soviet tanks in Hungry and Checoslovaquia. Democracy and freedom does not apply in geopolitics.
@andyarellanoChannel
@andyarellanoChannel Жыл бұрын
isn't this what we have done in ukraine, syria, yemen, libya, venezuela and on and on
@lolalashy6522
@lolalashy6522 Жыл бұрын
Democracy,, tells me what democracy is?
@kevinarnett8590
@kevinarnett8590 Жыл бұрын
The second 9 11 wtf this sounds crazy
@domgaar9933
@domgaar9933 Жыл бұрын
It happened much earlier than 2001, it is not the second 9/11, hence the title “the other 9/11”
@javiermonforte8264
@javiermonforte8264 Жыл бұрын
Their have been coup de etat always all over the world. The soviets with the tanks in Hungry and Checoslovaquia. Ask the African nations as well, about coups.
@oscarogada9410
@oscarogada9410 5 ай бұрын
The world will not forget what a shame in Guatemala Chile and Congo
@tylerbarbaree7007
@tylerbarbaree7007 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, anti-war until you're not.
@1968dogg
@1968dogg Жыл бұрын
"Democracy?" vs a Republic. Ask Ancient Rome...................
@aanchaallllllll
@aanchaallllllll Жыл бұрын
0:22: 🌎 Today marks the 50th anniversary of the US-backed coup in Chile that ousted President Salvador Allende and led to the brutal Pinochet dictatorship. 4:00: 📚 The speaker recalls how they narrowly avoided being at La Moneda during the coup in 1973. 7:40: 🇨🇱 The speaker discusses the ongoing struggle in Chile to remember the coup and the legacy of Pinochet, and the refusal of right-wing parties to sign a declaration condemning the coup. 11:23: 🌎 The speaker discusses the importance of Allende's example and the threat it posed to US interests in Latin America during the Cold War. 14:20: 🌎 The impact of the Pinochet years in Chile spread to other countries in Latin America, leading to military and extreme right-wing governments seizing power. 18:10: 📚 The author created a character based on himself to explore the story of Chile without the limitations of history. 21:56: 📚 The video discusses the enigma and suspense surrounding the characters in the novel, with a focus on the journey of two men and the empowerment of women. Recap by Tammy AI
@casiandsouza7031
@casiandsouza7031 Жыл бұрын
Coup is not the problem anymore than a weapon. They are means to an end. The problem is the motives for the end. I can't think of any American motives other than sheer greed.
@soyroberto2527
@soyroberto2527 Жыл бұрын
Let's call it the original September 11
@cesarnacho7630
@cesarnacho7630 Жыл бұрын
Excelent info thanks guys for your hard work...we forgive but we don't forget..what the policies of the white house has done. To Mexico Centro America south America..... Jacobo Arves in Guatemala...
@MarthaDominguez-i1p
@MarthaDominguez-i1p Жыл бұрын
Is the first time I hear this version of the suicide Allende said- I am not moving from my position they will have to kill me! the suicide version as usual
@lamars2486
@lamars2486 Жыл бұрын
NO COMMENT 😂😂😂😂 just flowing the algorithm 😂😂😂😂
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