Demonology's NEW Overhaul Is INSANE! New Talents, Pathing and Combat Testing!

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Intro: 0:00
Demonology Changes: 0:45
Demonology Combat: 15:28
Destro Changes and Combat: 22:38
Patreon, Summary and Outro: 26:01
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[@LEE-le1bm]

To the Warlock staff at Blizzard, to Kalamazi, and to Warlock players everywhere, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I've been waiting, hoping and believing that this day would come. I'm even more excited that today is the first day of change.

[@Kalamazii]

My pleasure! I appreciate it!

[@Alithia451]

Destro for life, but Diabolist Demo seems to look like what Demo was always supposed to be.

[@lesbiehonest8914]

Same for some reason i dont enjoy demo. I wish theyd make destro feel amazing.

[@krelekari]

I love both and agreed Diabolist feels like it'll make me into every warlock cinematic WoW ever had, and I am extremely excited about that

[@basecubi]

we are so back

[@kyleganse4978]

I do think whoever working in warlock is REALLY cooking with the feedback. So much on the screen showing up and shooting at the target lol. It’s bonkers. Seems dope.

[@occasionalgoldfish]

I'm just that Sopranos meme at this point... "Last week you said "it's over" but this week you're saying "were back". What changed?" 😂

[@iJxlly]

In order to be this back, it had to be so over first.

[@thatepicwizardguy]

demo ends up being easily one of the if not the coolest spec in the game with this currently.

[@Factual_Truth]

Nah

[@jacksanity7508]

Soul harvester affl is freaking cool too

[@MeTakingAStand]

demo and fire mage are definitely the main characters of this expansion

[@ammox4683]

I hope they do something similar to destro, they really listened to feedback and cooked great changes for this spec, fingers crossed for destro.

[@Norrman_RT56]

Last time I was this early, Demonology still had Metamorphosis

[@alomairabdulla]

🥹🥹

[@Islandofperil]

Brother don’t make me cry

[@ALeafOnTheWind42]

Let it go

[@Zikkar]

People need to get over this. It isn’t coming back.

[@mayhem4ever]

The good old days before dirty ass demon hunters came along. Even if they added to warlock spec with leech or something, it would make everyone happy.

[@gunrunnergaming]

Survival Hunter here. Hearing someone talk about their spec like this is all I want in life. Happy for you summoners!

[@dotftw1]

Thanks for your outstanding effort to make this happen. Much respects big dog

[@Bozzoltank]

I'm so fucking excited for this! Mained Demonology throughout Dragonflight and, with these changes and the Diabolist hero talents, and will through The War Within!

[@zombeone83]

Can’t wait to get my hands on this in beta. I can’t lie. I was just a tad overly pessimistic when I heard about the nerf to cores. After seeing the complete rework. I’m now very optimistic.

[@maxw565]

Awesome. I wish this level of love and dedication was shown for all specs in the game.

[@Thorn796]

This video brought a tear to my eye. Im so hyped to play this looks like so much fun!

[@luckybreadchop]

This is looking really cool! I am an affliction man but might have to give demonology another look if it becomes like this!

[@onlysebbomeister1715]

Wp kalamazi - and good cooking from blizz

[@Alithia451]

last time I was this early Kalamazi looked like a yeti :D

[@KuhntaSmash]

I don't even play Warlock, but I enjoy having a content creator being full focus on a class with constructive feedback. Some classes either don't have a full focus creator or... for those poor shamans,have someone with very little knowledge of the class with triqqle.

[@JakeRowland337]

THD is happy about them!? Damn fellas I think we made it.

[@user-jq1jo3fw3q]

Thd is shambles when he has nothing to complain about all raid lol

[@chriseggroll]

Looks great, very exciting

[@adamgrisetoile5646]

This honestly seems sooooo cool ! And simpler too.

[@verminouscoder]

ITS LIKE CHRISTMAS I'M SO HAPPY TO WAKE UP TO THIS, MY BABY IS FEELIN GOOD AGAIN. I am curious if this is going to take us back to hast mastery stacking. Seems like it! I'm so excited.

[@Maddawg1984]

This Diabolist-Demonology is so good Tyrant is strong again. I love the new tree Antorus Dogs perfect, Doom looks cool for the first time ever. I'm loving all of these changes. The Destro changes we have so far looks good I can't wait to see the rest of them. Harvester-Affiction looks so good to and the Affliction talent overhaul is so good I couldn't be more happy.

[@scummchild]

Could tell the changes were good from the smirk in the first frame! Thanks for the summary!

[@floodsye]

I'm convinced they fired the warlock dev(s) and secretly hired Kalamazi and THDLock. But really, all kidding aside, these changes are excellent and exactly what the other class reworks have looked like...even up there with the Ret Pally rework as they literally got rid of ALL 2 point nodes. Finally, some hope and it really looks like a lot of fun. I was gonna play something else for WoW Remix cause I was worried for TWW, but now I'm excited for warlock again and hopeful for Destro changes too. Honestly, just awesome to see real meaningful and FUN changes. And...my favorite mount and boss design...the Charhounds becoming an ability for us...oh WE ARE SO BACK.

[@Factual_Truth]

If I’m not mistaken, they had like 3-4 class devs in general for all classes. So the guy who worked on mage could be warrior dev at the same time. This is why warlock was SO CRAP all this time and mage/priest felt amazing: because one of the devs maimed these

[@adams303]

I always think these talent trees, though better than the 3 column options, are generally full of filler - that is to say that pretty much all builds will take a large proportion of the nodes therefor they are there only to create the illusion of choice. It would seem easier just to make all those common talents the new baseline and add smaller trees with more impactful options.

[@flemingryanr]

this looks amazing! more demons!

[@Shadhun98]

"I hope they make it even bigger to piss melees even off even more" lol

[@DylanSemones]

100% the best demo has ever looked & I’ve been playing demo since cata serious & started in bc

[@iksargodzilla]

Demonology changes look great so far looking forward to this xpac.

[@phulcq6716]

I was a little concerned with the last build but was hoping they had something more radical coming to make the demonbolt change make sense. This is all extremely nice. I do think this will ultimately make demo weaker than it is now, but I don't think that's a bad thing really. My demo lock is by a long way my strongest character and just feels like it has no significant weaknesses - incredibly tanky, always moving, tons of ST and AoE damage. With this tree it seems like we'll probably have to compromise a little more between ST and AoE, closer to what most specs in the game have to do, which I think is perfectly fine and good for the game. Having less mobility from cores I also think makes sense - I'd much rather lose that mobility than survivability or damage, from a gameplay and fantasy perspective. My biggest concern at this point would be balance between different builds - they have plenty of time to sort this all out, but I think quite a lot of talents still don't do much to alter profiles and will just be a case of simming to see what you pick. At the moment it looks to me like demonbolt/hatred builds will be quite a bit weaker, especially if cores are rarer. Hard to know at this point and maybe that's the intention since it will be passive and easier to play. It's also hard to know if doom will feel good or terrible because of a lack of demonbolts. What I really hope is that they don't end up with weird balance that forces us into a sac souls/hatred build and discourages the vastly cooler talents in the tree. If they can avoid that I think this will be an incredible expansion to be a demo lock; here's hoping the other specs follow suit.

[@berryford]

Went to bed with a smile and woke up with a smile. Idc what damage comes out to be, I am playing this!

[@aaghkkthoof]

these are solid steps in the right direction

[@MrTomato00]

Man Kalamazi, thank you so much for all the work for the WL community. Lots of love

[@Kalamazii]

Any time!

[@dantedante8837]

this is really good

[@BattousaiHBr]

demo FINALLY looking good, please keep the work with the rest of the class. the class tree, aff and destro still needs work.

[@guldonis1155]

Very good, massiv w

[@ArthurPessoadeSouza]

@Kalamazi Umbral Blaze would be great if it also granted our S1 Tierset instant cast proc, would also help with Demonic Core issue

[@ninjaewok44]

Glad to see they listening to feedback. I was really worried. I guess your Feedback Video was well recieved! Thanks to you! You doing Sargeras work out there!

[@Kalamazii]

Thanks again!

[@jmezo6656]

This seals it for me. Definitely continuing Demo next expansion. I love the eye candy!

[@---rm8do]

Good KalaMood

[@Ditronus.]

Very nice flavor as you say. Buuuut, why is that doomguard so tiny?! Haha. The need to increase his size by 50% at least!

[@tylerchapman8856]

Dude and watching you hit thay test dummy.. holy fuck.. they just nailed it!!!

[@TheSilverwing999]

Good mood today Pog

[@greenelf444]

With the change to demo’s talents I’m now interested in the changes to destro’s tree comming up

[@prodbybk1380]

This might be the first thing about the war within that has actually got me excited 🎉🎉 Lfg

[@DannyMan27X]

Demo for life LETS GO!

[@MatthewGalon]

Being honest it is very bittersweet to see these quick changes for Demo meanwhile Affliction has been suffering with Malefic Rapture for years. You can see the objective raid participation of Aff fall consistently since it's release and I wish they would can it. It's very obvious that won't be happening for the launch of The War Within at a minimum, but there is no other item on my warlock wishlist than to have this ability removed or reworked into a DoT.

[@HeatherSZ]

Aff. Lock For life

[@biggestsquidd5948]

What addon are you using that lets you see how long your pets have? The icons above your imp tracker WA. Thanks!

[@blackblade99009]

i still think decimating bolt would make a good warlock capstone as in a lot of situations it will rase all threes sustain higher.

[@SilentinsanityM]

This is a very solid rework for Demo that I am largely happy with, but there is some notable janky pathing issues: a) You can grab the Mark of Shatug / F'harg and The Houndmaster's Gambit without grabbing Vilefiend b) You can grab Shadowtouched without taking Wicked Maw or Foul Mouth I also think Pact of the Imp mother should be moved to be accessible without needing to take Umbral Blaze. IMO Sac Souls and Pact of the Imp mother should be swapped.

[@reidom1994]

the issues is, this was like the 2-3x the devs initially made very bad changes, and it took an community outrage and other classes laughing at us, to revert and come up with something fun. we will have this in few patches agin, i call it. Otherwise great to see, 1min tyrant base is great, i wanna see 1min infernal base, its more fun

[@Ditronus.]

Good wins...but i wish they just axed doom instead of making it more a part of demo. Delayed damage is never too fun to me. Love the new pets. Yet, I wish they would put a different pet in for Felguard Grimoire. That talent just being a better number felguard is boring. Immutable hatred is also boring; as a capstone, it would be cool to turn your felguard into a Fel Lord. I always love new pet variation, especially for a pet class, like they did here with vilefiend, which looks amazing.

[@VividVoid]

Strongly with you on this and I’m surprised it’s not a more common critique. Grimoire should summon something else… not just another felguard. And yeah, Kala touched on it briefly how the bottom right of the tree is boring. And I think at this point that’s what needs to be looked at next.

[@baltharaaz9847]

​@VividVoid In their post, they made the passive damage talents on the right side sound like they were going to stay mostly that way to allow that damage profile, so I'm not sure if they're going to clean that up. I think Doom would fare a lot better if the Core economy wasn't being constantly trimmed (I'm really not sure why Warlock isn't allowed some additional mobility considering all 3 specs are bottom 5 iirc). If there were more cores, or they tied the duration lowering to some other metric, or made the duration shaving stronger, it'd probably feel a lot better.

[@rafaelcalmon2858]

I would be surprised if they keep the Demo tree without any 2 point talents. Seems like a temporary pre-balance state until they figure out which talents and where to place 2 pointers. Still awesome changes though.

[@jmaehlmhm313]

If thd is happy.. I’m happy

[@masonpayton4050]

I admit, I was mega doomer about the rework last week, but If I could reach out to the devs working on Demo right now I'd give them all a hug. This looks so good, what a time to be a warlock!

[@op4gothic]

any of the dev if u reading this Thank you im really happy to see demo like this

[@tayloraldridge3063]

I really really really want aff to be the spec again. But gods does demo look amazing next xpac.

[@HeidiBullard]

I love that other players are gonna get to see the hounds, lol. Melee are going to hate them. And in respect to making us more turret like again, I'm fine with it. I wish they would bring back at least one fight that needed a lock tank as a viable strategy. I like when a tank dies in a fight and I can keep the fight going to win.

[@Calthrasful]

The tooltip of 'Pact of the Ered'ruin' says cast 5 doom bolts. It doesn't mention it's a doom bolt volley like it is live. But in your combat showcase, it's clearly a doom bolt volley. So the Doomguard will deal AOE damage and not single target, like it is live right now?

[@TheSilverwing999]

It does aoe doombolts on alpha right now

[@Calthrasful]

@@TheSilverwing999thanks

[@captainlunchbox87]

I might have missed it but will they be making changes to Affliction and Destruction class tree as well? Affliction is still sitting at 8 2 point nodes and Destruction an insane 16 2 point nodes... really hoping those get cut down.

[@ethanamazing]

Hi Kalamazi

[@IcyBonespike]

This looks insanely fun. I hope they stick to their guns with this kind of flavour. Please don't randomly back-track a good thing!

[@gr4y937]

what a time to be a warlock

[@redoni4325]

Still seems pretty lackluster when compared to other classes like Mages who get access to most of their kit baseline while also being extremely mobile with almost as much utility as warlock anyway. Im convinced with their design philosophy on demonic core economy they just don't play their own game. It doesn't matter how tanky you are if you can't stand in a mythic raid mechanic without still getting one-shot 90% of the time, they want to keep warlock stuck in classic era design with modernized raid mechanics.

[@stephenwatson6817]

This looks absolutely insane. Now pray they don't obliterate this by launch

[@matthewtaillon2618]

Last time I was this late, I was waiting on Nether Portal CD

[@talisredstar1543]

Prewatching the vid. I hope he is right, but I still stand by what I said. They should of held off on posting any changes before this, because all they did previously was piss us off. After the video. I'm actually impressed. I want to see soul harvester though, to see how the shard gen is with that HT.

[@MakAttack916]

Doggos need to be at LEAST 50% bigger. This is non-negotiable =P

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

I still wish Doom had a choice node to make it a passive that has a chance of getting applied from demonbolt or hand of gul'dan. Me like passives, me no like more buttons.

[@Megavolt722]

Looks like the button bloat torch was passed from Aff to Demo...

[@muratkaradag3703]

When will be the Class-Tree and Demon-Pets be reworked?

[@norwegiantacoeater9115]

Struggling to see how this won’t be OP, but fingers crossed it is and Blizz refuse to fix it 😈

[@officialyungkb]

Why does the RoF talent and Cataclysm have to be separated? is it too op to be able to do both? Genuine question. I hate having to cast dots on multiple targets, cataclysm makes it much more fun and easy. (new player here, pls dont cook me)

[@vantom3822]

that was quick lol.

[@ds8867]

actually good changes for once! lets gooooooooooooooooo, great job blizzard

[@Ma5asak45]

if you are happy, i am happy, thanks.

[@TheJayH]

can you tell them to look at hunter?

[@Stingsy]

Good, I can't seem to nail destro currently. Demo warlord is my favorite play style.

[@martinjp6792]

Oh god, we are gonna get another demo exspansion aren't we :(

[@Ma5asak45]

"piss melee off" xD

[@SkagulTV]

So basically, LET THEM COOK! before hating

[@dmsephiroth]

Seems rly fun, while frostmage is in a horrobil state atm..and they not even working on the spec :( Sadly mages don t have good frost-content-creators atm. Only for fire and some arcane ^^

[@christopherprygon6760]

BM hunters can move as much as they want.

[@ventus9702]

Kala looking so cute !

[@fenaxtv]

isn't there danger of button bloat? I think this adds 3 buttons to the spec

[@Axern89]

Is affliction getting a rework? That spec has been floundering for years.

[@Ditronus.]

They did a lot of changes to aff so far...but no where close to what demo is getting. Which, hey, I like pet classes better so by all means, but it is odd given how taped together and disjointed affliction feels. Like survival, it feels like a bandaid spec limping along to each expansion: it can be viable if the numbers are tuned well, but it doesn't feel well-designed.

[@alec_______]

both destro and aff are getting reworked in the next builds, it was mentioned in the dev feedback post

[@soulcleave2386]

THD is happy? hell truly hath frozen over

[@AdmiringBanyanTree-zz5ix]

Wish affliction would get buff not to their damage but the shard generation is poor. I think the spec would be more competitive with demo and destructor that way!

[@Darkith11]

I hate seeing this because it makes me want to play WoW again

[@martinjp6792]

Honestly, aff and destro need at least as many one point talent notes, otherwise it's pretty obvious how biased blizz are to demo.

[@neriaksoul]

baby infernals ^^

[@fjallmann]

I feel imp mother and umbral should be swapped in positioning. Easy fix but it looks way better now.

[@Nexsusthepro]

"It's been since... the release of the game and it looks like Doom can finally spawn a doom guard.... once talented." in other news warlocks have NEGATIVE Five pets with grimoire of sac being best in slot and 'mandatory guard' choking up the demo tree.

[@forcesaken]

the destro change is meh to me, just spawning more demons, feels like building an imp army. Destro was always more the type to rely on their own power, not have their demons do the work for them like a demo lock, even to the point of sacrificing them to further bolster your own power. the current destro uses the infernal not so much for it to do damage but to empower yourself and launch nuke chaos bolts and rain of fires.

[@Lesnik_1337]

this looks super exciting. They are making the class fantasy better. Hope they don't leave destro bad in aoe.

[@jonnydu76]

BLIZZARD, WE JUST NEED HAND OF DOOM, DO THAT AND DEMONO GAMEPLAY WILL FINALLY BE SAVED FROM WHAT YOUVE DONE SINCE LEGION ENDED !! (and Thal'kiel's Consumption but i know you will never give back this one)

[@ShiroLongtail]

sure wish devs gave destro even a fraction of the care they have for demonology but the last big set of change for destro was overwhelmingly awful and disregarded pretty much all feedback

[@ALeafOnTheWind42]

You know, the new Vilefiends not getting Tyrant extensions is probably a consequence of the Tyrant whitelist. It would be a good time to re-open free conversation about reverting the white list (and uncap imps)