"DEMURE" & "CUTESY" | Explained to the Olds

Tiktok has once again escaped its enclosure, forcing me to learn about a *trend*. So I just learned what Gen Z means when they say "demure" and "cutesy" - and now it's your problem. Enjoy!
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[@aminaa5824]

Btw the ‘original’ person that made that video was also joking, a lot of the time on tiktok people do recreations to make fun of someone who was earnest, but if you watch the rest of that persons content, you can see they wear a lot of makeup, they aren’t the type of person to say something like that to shame people who do wear a lot, so it’s a lot more fun this way, we’re all in on the joke

[@kackie]

Yeah I wasn't sure honestly whether Jools was in on the joke. Especially because ONE TikTok from her went viral? So I hope everyone else gagging on her video knew the context? See this is why I'm old. I can only "get it" like most of the way...lol

[@aminaa5824]

@@kackie she’s a pretty popular tiktoker, her videos go viral sometimes and I think her most viral and what she’s known for is as someone who helps find makeup based on how the packaging looks and without knowing the name, I might be thinking of someone else but whatever, also, don’t worry about not ‘getting it.’ Tiktok trends spread fast and come and go so quickly that you’d have to be on it constantly to understand every inside joke, especially because it’s usually not shown with context so if you want to understand something you have to look it up to find wherever it originated from and it all amounts to naught because it wasn’t important in the first place, it’s just curiousity or the FOMO that causes you to care at all, there’s a lot to be gained from tiktok, I’ve honestly learned a lot on there, and the stuff like this is silly and fun but if you missed it or you don’t get it, it’s okay, you don’t need to

[@Call-me-Al]

With that (fun) eyeliner it felt like they were making fun of tradwives.

[@kagitsune]

They make me tempted to get on tik tok, I immediately got exactly the type of Karens they were satirizing 🤣

[@riddlememphis]

To address you're concern about this being a trans woman that is then being made fun of in other videos: my rule is to ask myself if it would be just as funny if the person were cisgender. In this case, the way she, whether earnestly or as a joke, is calling her makeup demure is fucking hilarious no matter what.(I'm trans/enby)

[@FishareFriendsNotFood972]

"To be cringe is to be free". Say it louder for the folks in the back, Kackie! ❤❤❤

[@kackie]

YESSS!

[@sarahissom260]

“I’m cringe but you’re mean and that’s worse”

[@jodieguess3002]

@@FishareFriendsNotFood972 this needs to be new merch @kackie!

[@jodieguess3002]

@@kackie ugh it didn’t tag you in the previous comment. We need this on a shirt!

[@cosfreye]

Please do more of these! My bestie literally sent me a witchtok spin on the demure trend last night. We are both millennials, but she is on Tiktok and I am not. I know the definition of the word demure, but the layers of sarcasm and societal context were lost to me until you explained it just now. THANK YOU!

[@kaid2025]

I agree. I'm a not on TikTok Gen Z, but it's so much nicer having the things explained by Kackie, than most people my age. There's a grounded feeling (despite the caffeine).

[@sebumpostmortem]

Yes please. _EXPLAINED TO THE OLDZ_ by Kackie must be a series🖤🖤🖤

[@gracelcoffman]

41 years old and I had no idea what indie sleaze was but I sure as hell knew what demure was all about thanks to my gen z/gen alpha cusper daughter 😅

[@dezarey]

This video came just in time! My daughter just asked me yesterday what demure means 😂

[@kristinthehairaddict1444]

Fascinating thought process. It’s easy to be consumed by what’s being presented to us instead of viewing it objectively as you have done. Well done 👍🏼👌🏼 I agree being cringe is freeing. All that being said, i think it’s adderall not caffeine 😂

[@debi7227]

Thank you the explainer. I watched her video and haven’t confused about this new spin on “demure”. The humor and sarcasm was completely lost on me. I think I get it now. I think. 😅 - signed, Last Boomer

[@sparkybish]

As an older than you old, I saw the original video and knew it would blow up. TikTok is training me to spot the trends. 😂

[@kristiang1870]

I find it interesting as someone who was in high school when you were in college, and definitely had “scene hair” my sophomore year, that I am not aware that all of the scene kid/indie sleaze stuff was a moment in time, or is becoming so influential now.

[@stealthis]

Chris Crocker was doing YT as if it was TikTok (before he blew up and came to mainstream attention)

[@k.nelson9043]

Thank you for this lol I only have Instagram on my iPad so check it like once a week and wow was I hit with whiplash when I logged in today at how quickly this had taken off and I was completely lost. I saw your post about this video and ran here to get the 411 😂👵🏽

[@kackie]

😂❤️❤️

[@emma_luce_0623]

I do resonate with you about (modern at least) Taylor Swift and brat.. They're just very bland and unimaginative imo. Although, I think feminism IS about "gatekeeping" our reality. I empathize with trans people but having a mental health condition doesn't mean you are what you like to dreas like. I also think that modern depictions of trans people really didn't mean womanhood and what it actually is to be a woman. For example, trains women often claim that they think they're women because of very arbitrary things. Such as liking pink, nail polish, or makeup. There is just so much more to womanhood and a man/male will never understand that. You're obviously free to do what you like and I will treat everyone with respect and kindness, unless they prove they don't deserve it, but I strongly disagree with modern depictions of womanhood and how people try to appropriate womanhood.

[@brendaalbaugh8927]

Good grief! I believe I’m the oldest person on your channel😂I grew up with no computer def no TikTok! I love your content and your take on new products also love to read the comments but the word demure makes me cringe. I was a rebel still am and I’m almost seventy. So glad no one documented everything I ever did or said Cause someone out there would have a lawsuit. Thanks for the education

[@kathleenkaffeine8696]

Explained to the Olds for sure needs to be an ongoing series!

[@kackie]

I think so too

[@celinag9968]

I’m 44, and cheugy.

[@Ashes_Rose8]

​@celinag9968 I'm 54 and zero fucks given 😂😂

[@maryeckel9682]

I'm super old (63) and I need this

[@sarahcarr5275]

​@kackie as an "old" that's not on TikTok, thank you for your service!💙

[@phoenixmassey]

I’m probably one of the oldest around here (69). I am all for cutting Gen Z some slack. Having every moment of my life documented sounds horrifying. No one needs to know how awkward a teen I was. 😬

[@maryeckel9682]

It's nightmarish thinking about it.

[@melissajeannek]

I am thankful every day that I did not grow up in a tik tok world 😂 I don’t use tik tok and I have no regrets.

[@watermelonlemonadenails]

I'm 23 and so happy I don't use Tiktok. I feel like my brain would melt

[@melancholi163]

jools (the creator who started the trend) was doing it with at least some element of satire in the first place i’m fairly sure, so i wouldnt say theyre making fun of how a trans woman presents herself- as a trans woman myself, i think it’s a comedic criticism of all forms of performative femininity that society expects/requires of woman.

[@kackie]

Yup and that's why I leave this part of the conversation to people who know better than I do. Thank you! ❤️

[@melancholi163]

@@kackie no prob! :) it can be difficult to tell these days whether people are doing something in a mean spirited way or not, especially (and unfortunately so) when trans folks are concerned, but jools is in on the joke here so it doesnt strike me as transphobic. she has gotten a lot of harassment before and no one participating in the trend seems to be doing that, but it is a fine line so i get how the worry would come up!

[@Paigedh1776]

@@melancholi163thank you for your input. I appreciate it. ❤

[@Meli27w]

Same with any era. We are never aware of “defining” anything. I’m of the “Grunge Era”… Starbucks was new, sitting in coffee shops smoking cigarettes and going to Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Primus, etc etc etc shows. I look back fondly 😆

[@YvetteLosier]

I’m 62 born in 62…a real olds…and wish I could go back in time to appreciate the freedom and loveliness of living life without social media. Just my opinion but it was better. Yet herei am watching this video lol but I pick and choose what I want to watch and am as always impressed by your wisdom. Thank you!

[@Meli27w]

Me too! Internet was birthed when I was in my 30s and my oldest daughter constantly reminds me that I grew up different.

[@WallxFlower]

I think the thing that bums me out the most about TikTok and Gen Z culture is the homogeneity of trends.

[@kackie]

Yes because individuality can't trend..."trend" is literally the antithesis of individuality. Oh dear this is a whole other video isn't it

[@WallxFlower]

@@kackie Totally!!

[@rachelpetrilli3477]

@@kackieguys this is how the emo trend started, or even the punk trend, nonconformists etc

[@BethHartSmith]

I’m 27 so I’m technically an elder Gen Z, but I’m at this weird in-between point where I’m old to the youths but young to the olds.. and I feel like I’m out of touch if I don’t keep up with trends but also feel cringy if I take part in them 🙃

[@emma_luce_0623]

Early 2000s gen z, I completely agree with this. 😂 This is one of the reasons why I don't really like generations when we use them as a way to lump people together because you and I are very different from the tail end of gen Z who were born in 2010 to 12.

[@zarielxx]

same, turning 27 this year 😅

[@StephanieLeighG]

I’m pretty sure the trans woman who started this whole thing was joking. Not about needing to go to work looking a certain way, but about wanting to look demure and refined and whatever the fuck. I thought people were just copying her joke, not making fun of her. Was she not joking? I dunno, I just know I’m not dig into it any deeper to try to figure it out lol.

[@saucydragonfly]

That was my take. The algorithm fed me the og post last week and as I started to see the trend emerge I thought it was just a take on a funny audio. The thing to remember about Gen Z is that nothing is that deep. Sometimes it’s just a fun audio that gets a stranglehold.

[@satutoivonen9679]

"I didn't want to make the other olds go watch tik tok." Thank you! 😂 God I hate that app, but I do want to know these words.

[@sanalone9492]

"explained to the olds*" *and 21 year olds who don't know what happens on tiktok and are afraid to find out

[@kackie]

😂😂😂 you are welcome to be an honorary old

[@dime.overmatter]

What the youths are missing these days is the anonymity of the internet, which allowed us to express our stupid ideas, curiosity, and ignorance. I remember over a decade ago, when a 19yo youth police community leader lost her role because of a tweet she posted five years earlier. She was crying on the news. It was awful. And that was the first time I remember the internet starting to affect our livelihoods, jobs, and in-person reputation. Everyone knew employers would look at your Facebook account to find drunk pictures of you, so you had to set it to private. But nowadays there's almost a "you HAVE" to put your face online, have a TikTok account, a wide-reaching web presence that's video, audio, photo, Onlyfans, everything. And of course your employers/partners/investors/educators will judge you for it. There's no way young people realise how huge the ramifications of being online without anonymity are

[@mizshellytee]

I know of someone who was fired from her job for ranting/venting about it online, in the late 90s/early 2000s when online journaling (precursor to blogging) was a thing. Long before social media as we know it now.

[@emma_luce_0623]

Why does everything get blamed on capitalism? What they discussed has nothing to do with capitalism. The free market has no bearing on people not realizing that anonymity on the Internet can be important. ​@@mus1quenonst0p

[@emma_luce_0623]

​@@mizshellyteeit's so crazy, not only is it usually something someone said at least 5 years ago but it's also something that is not even that crazy. I don't even remember a lot of the comments I've left 5 months ago and when I stumble across them again I am astounded by how much I've changed in 5 months. People are not as rigid as modern society makes them out to be.

[@durcheinander5554]

I have a younger brother (20yo) who is disgusted by TikTok, mostly reads Balzac and when we see each other, he usually pulls out some black&white movie from the Rotten Tomatoes Top100 that he wants to watch together. Like, they boy's a SNOB :D And I love that for him, because it shields him from the craziness of the internets. He sends me some memes off of Discord sometimes, but other than that he has no social media footprint, is uninterested in trends and that's beautiful. I love that each time I see him he has some new real life hobby he goes indepth into - like book renovation, shorthand, learning Russian... I'm a younger millenial and still I feel like the interwebs have messed up my attention span too much to go indepth into anything.

[@amandaschultz9078]

It’s exhausting is what it is. The trends constantly being pushed and blasted is exhausting.

[@emma_luce_0623]

Not only does it seem like everyone is forced to partake in a trend (if you don't you are perceived as weird, lame, or whatever else) but the trends also fly by so fast that by the time I'm just hearing that they even existed, they've already been over for 5 months. 🫠😂🤦‍♀️

[@amandaschultz9078]

@@emma_luce_0623 Yes, I completely agree. I’ve never been one to keep up with trends because of this.

[@jodieguess3002]

Gawdddd Kackie, you’re glorious even in under eye patches. Make it cutesy. Make it demure.

[@kackie]

😂😂 you're so sweet

[@jodieguess3002]

@@kackie❤️

[@C_majuscula]

Yeah, I think those of us over ~35 or so just need to accept that this is its own economy and largely requires constant flipping of trends to maintain itself. Think trashy teen mags on steroids. I think it's hilarious.

[@lauriejohnson7086]

As a Gen X er I say “whatever” but leave me the hell alone. 😂😂😂😂. Only other Gen x rs would get that. 👀👀. Go outside and ride a bike, play with some jarts and don’t come home until it’s dark. Lol

[@pepperpaige203]

Pee in the woods, make a tree fort, hang upside down on the jungle gym, steal chalk for hopscotch.

[@lookitsgrandma]

And, if you're thirsty, use the hose. 👍🏼

[@kb3744]

As a fellow old, and a fellow parent of Gen Alpha kids, I love this video. I hope to help my children see the internet as a tool, a thing to use as needed and then put away.

[@yamilletrivas8041]

I’ve never been so happy to be GenX lol. Indie Sleaze sounds exhausting! I was around for it and even like some of the music but absolutely as a NYer /city gal, and never following trends, I’m just happy this was not my era ha!

[@fibromiteready2fight809]

Yes, Jools was very much so poking fun at fhe fact that as a plus size trans woc, she's never considered demure or cutesy, and she prefers to express herself,.normally wearing the things she says the other girls do. Apparently the engagement helped pay for her transition surgery, so i love that for her !!

[@Henou55]

I am an 80's baby and absolutely love your content and the way you articulate your unique point of you.

[@TG-jp3tc]

OOH Unhinged Kackie! I love it when you are hyped up on the caffeine. TWINSIES! 🤪

[@kackie]

YEEHAW

[@amylage4054]

Happy to be an old and not have to have every single day of my old sleeze life documented.!

[@crypticmedicine]

It's happening!! Kackie did the trend!!! (Don't worry, I'm 25, I had to read the articles too 😂)

[@kackie]

HOW DID I DO 🥹

[@crypticmedicine]

Oh, you're always excellent!! Learned a lot about past trends in this one -- didn't know "Indie Sleaze" was a thing til now! One very important thing -- Jools Lebron ABSOLUTELY meant her TikToks as a joke. People aren't making fun of her, they're joining in her humor and making their version of her joke. It's an intentionally absurdist take, too, like a Tom Stoppard play. And maybe it's my weird queer enby brain, but I don't tend to immediately go "ah, the male gaze!" whenever beauty standards are mentioned, even though I DID take a lot of those classes for my English degree. Hyperfemme is very queer, very trans, very lesbian (very cutesy, very demure

[@dime.overmatter]

​@@crypticmedicine ha, we use brat.. "differently" 😂

[@crypticmedicine]

@@dime.overmatter I'm not going to tell if you won't...

[@nikitawerner960]

As a 38 year old former aughts hipster, this video is EVERYTHING. And I too am relishing the obscurity and irrelevant of age ✨️✨️✨️

[@rachelpetrilli3477]

Hipster is the word I think of when describing so-called indie sleaze. Curious if the distinction is simply whether or not you’re referring to music or dress or a combo

[@nikitawerner960]

We definitely leaned into the Indie label and rejected hipster at first because for us it was all about the music, but eventually I think we all realized we ironied ourselves into becoming the thing we said we weren't. I think that's the nuance of the esthetic that is lost on the youths. You have to morph into indie sleaze and deny it vehemently the whole time 😂

[@purrfectstormz8225]

I remember the joy of discovering Siouxsie and the Banshees and feeling liberated stylistically. I grew up as a ward of the court in institutions and the clothing budget was so small that we usually had to pick through the clothes past girls had left behind or grown out of. I tried so hard to fit in, but I never felt like myself. When I discovered a program that had alternative music videos for an hour every Saturday I felt like a blossoming flower. Kate Bush, Sinead, Souxsie, I began to have fun and get creative. What I found very interesting is the minute I stopped trying to fit in I became more popular. As a woman in my 50s I sometimes wish I had these amazing make-up tutorials at my disposal in my youth, but I am so thankful we didnt have to contend with the ever changing trends and pressure to be perfect and palatable social media keeps pouring on everyone.

[@riddlememphis]

Katrina from Drawfee "Do not kill the part of you that's cringe; kill the part that cringes."

[@blondie9909]

im 21 and constantly feel out of the loop cuz i dont have tiktok, my friends are always kinda frustrated with me cuz i dont know anything but im honestly scared to get it

[@kackie]

Enjoy your peace

[@watermelonlemonadenails]

@@blondie9909 I'm 23 and had TikTok for a month like 3 years ago and deleted it so fast. Trust me, don't do it

[@stephaniec4766]

Stay strong! You’ll be better off as the years go by for staying off

[@RachelDee]

When I was 21, the big thing was Snapchat. I’ve gotten along just fine in life from never getting on it. Trust your gut.

[@jngmail]

No worries, my daughter is the same age and she does not have it, her decision. She feels great!

[@emanuelebabici]

I stumbled across you through your colour theory makeup videos and got quickly hooked to the Channel!! I love to see an "older woman" and mother just be so enthusiastic and free, yet bringing quality and serious discussion. Also, damn ylu upload a lot!!!! We never get bored here, and thank you because August is an empty month in August 🙏🏻 P.S. I'm a gen Z that doesn't have TikTok and it's great

[@Elspm]

100% happy that I ended up going with my older sisters' aesthetics (punkier end of things), it meant I didn't get into the indie sleaze aspect. Much more formulaic and easy to go with. Did I feel superior/ somehow also inferior to that vibe? Of course. I was a teenager.

[@Danseur87]

Yass, fellow 1987er here. I love being an old. I always appreciate the perspective you give on Gen Z/the youths, I find myself saying “Bless their hearts” often. 😂P.S.-I have been using the First Aid Beauty moisturizer that you spoke about a while back. My skin has never felt better. 🙏🏾

[@kackie]

Omg it's medicine right???

[@nich347]

I definitely think that the Indie sleaze and recession core are coming back in full force, it'll be really interesting to see what trends get recycled as something new. I was actually just talking to my husband about it the other day since it was the era we grew up in as teens, I'm here for it but he isn't 😅

[@kackie]

Hahahahaha one of us one of us

[@maryeckel9682]

I'm just poor core.

[@user-sr1kc6jj2b-p1q]

OK, as a 90’s goth, your “indie sleeze” scene sounds exactly like both the grunge and goth scenes of the 90s. This is what kids in their 20s do: enjoy the decadence of no responsibilities, obsess about fun stuff like fashion and music, and get utterly hammered as much as possible. LOL - even goths refusing to call themselves goths because that’s what Other People called us - yes. Even that. Oh yeah, and there were the “alterna-teens” in the 90s too, who were also this but did not wear all-black. They bought thrifted clothes. (Actually everybody who didn’t live off their parents wore thrifted clothes except for work.)

[@Lyvvie]

I go to work like a clown goddess because IDGAF anymore. If I want to be a purple glitter bomb then I will be. I'm over 50 and I dare you to tell me to change my makeup to be more demure. I am cringe, I am free, because I don't care what you think about me. ❤‍🔥🌈

[@janinebean4276]

From somebody with a music degree being a music snob is not really a flex lol. Brat is a rave album. It’s meant to dance to. Charli XCX came up in the rave scene in England. Not everything has to be high brow music nerd bullshit, people are allowed to just enjoy things that are good and make them happy. Music is a social phenomenon. Popularity does not mean something is bad.

[@bags_books_and_bowwows]

I feel like for maximum enjoyment, I need to queue this video up so I can watch it tomorrow when the matcha hits.

[@kackie]

🤣

[@tracyrampone5955]

TIL about Indie Sleaze... Gen X here- I'll see myself out...

[@tammystiletto]

“We didn’t have the documentation-“ No but we do have MellissaKristinTv 😅omg the 2000’s things she remembers from my childhood HOWEVER?!

[@melissawilches9953]

"Explaining to the old's"

[@dorisminor]

I'm 69 and I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

[@TheClairelikescats]

I needed this explanation, thank you! 😂

[@juliemoses1909]

Even before the internet, we had trends and THEY KEEP COMING BACK! Have you realized half and possibly more of your life will be spent over 40?

[@Dinozzzaur]

I was doing a crossword puzzle while I listened and now I feel seen.

[@erinp1212]

Omg the indie sleaze playlist is bringing me back…one of my best concerts was Beach House/Grizzly Bear! And I saw Bright Eyes an insane amount of times (Omaha girlie!!). Going to listen to the playlist on REPEAT!!

[@silentgypsy]

"that's what people say ABOUT us... And we are pretending.. we don't know" 💀 I just saw crystal castles on your playlist 🙌🙌🙌

[@Kemanes]

What they said ABOUT us vs what younger generations consciously decide to become a part of 🤯

[@kathleenmoortel5449]

I would love more videos like this - explain away Kackie 😊 I too have been called old by my 20 something friends and I’m 35

[@catiemccoy1694]

Crossword puzzle made me laugh out loud. As a mom and fellow old, there’s nothing better than a crossword and a cup of coffee 😂

[@hallieweiner2827]

Amen!!!

[@samjames9298]

The cringe is real.

[@melaniecarosi8320]

I am an ‘oldie’ who doesn’t TikTok. It seems to me it’s like a Sorority or Fraternity. Everyone follows the crowd. I am 68 and a proud non crowd follower or TikToker…

[@saralbruno]

In solidarity with Kackie on Brat and anything taylor swift. Does not reach me. (Very demure, very mindful)

[@annacwarnke]

I live in such blissful ignorance of tiktok and most social media yayy

[@SummerBeautyc]

Thank you for explaining it to this "old" 😂. I've seen the clips but wasn't sure where it started.

[@ZackRekeSkjell]

Thank you for setting words to the thoughts I’ve been having about this! I watch my husband’s much younger sisters (15 and 18) and I’m quite baffled by their relationship with trends and the internet. Everything is defined as a thing, and everything they do is so connected to their names online. When I grew up we were scared to even put our first names online in fear of it following us at later times, but they have no qualms with putting their full names everywhere. I really wonder if that will have consequences for them later in life either positive or negative. I cannot imagine having everything I’ve done on the internet connected to me as a person.

[@nananhinha]

Love these types of videos!!

[@nicolenodarse]

I’ve been moving from TX to OR over the past few weeks and finally catching up on all the Kackie content I’ve missed and it’s pretty great. Just wanted to share.

[@kackie]

🥹🥹🥹

[@janiemurray1929]

The amount of effort that I put into my effortless messy half-up half-down side bangs situation... 😅

[@MenchieExtrakt]

I think demure is equivalent to モテる (moteru) in Japanese and 知性(Zhi Xing) in Chinese.

[@dime.overmatter]

How in the hell are you 37, your skin looks 26... Anyway thank you for explaining the tiktok lexicon to me, I will always need that

[@kackie]

Hahaha thank you

[@melissabee8522]

More of this, please!

[@Kristyn.roberts13]

This was excellent...more of this please! Thank you!💜

[@kackie]

🥰 thank you!

[@jaimemicelotti8539]

I had no idea that look was called Indie Sleeze. I was more into the Grunge look myself. I’m late Gen X. 80’s kid/90’s teen. I just turned 47 a little over two weeks ago.

[@jaimemicelotti8539]

Thank you for clarifying that the term is recent. I seriously thought the Mandela effect was coming into play.

[@makeup_onhermind]

Thanks Kackie, I gave up researching it when I realized I'd have to go on Tik Tok XD

[@heatherlee2967]

16:25 "Being young right now sounds exhausting" Speaking as a gen-z here, I feel like being young was exhausting, but not necessarily because of microtrends on social media. As long as I didn't let what was online define my identity, and I spent plenty of time texting and engaging with friends, I felt grounded. I think most of what made my tween years exhausting was the normal stuff -- boy drama, friends breaking up, getting homework done on time, etc. I wanted to say this video was really interesting and I loved hearing about the first-hand experiences of someone from GenX! I appreciate how you are taking the time to break down the differences between the way our generations treat trends and are aware of them, rather than just making a video saying "thing bad"

[@ZakCrouch]

Hello. I’m Zak. 34. I’m confused because the original video is “very mindful, very demure.” Where did cutesy come from?

[@janiemurray1929]

The idea of people hashtagging the trend they're going for now is HORRIFYING to me... like... you're admitting that you TRIED? NO. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

[@kathyanderson6898]

Having graduated High school the year you were born,.Kackie, I'm so confused by this video. 🥴 What I do know is that I had to spend 1/2 a day at the car dealership so that some punk ass TikToker doesn't steal my car!!! It's literally a TREND to steal & destroy the make & model of my car!! Unbelievable!! 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@AbigailFaulkner-kv3ei]

Oh man. I was absoluuuuuutely the immpeccably dressed/kinda greasyliberal arts creative writing majoring, chain-smoking, hangover-nursing, college indie radio station record-spinning, post punk band bass-playing indie sleaze ARCHETYPE. Decidedly not demure or cutesy. My formerly cool old lady ass feels so seen & understood right now. TYSM. Also, MATES OF STATE. Yes.

[@carinaoliveira5850]

LET"S DO THIS! I think the younger generation needs to hear more content from a neutral elder POV, lol. We are wiser than we may appear, which means not all content they consume, has to be about a battle of the generations. Your angle is the same as mine, and it was refreshing to hear an understanding perspective rather than bashing either generation for the way things played out during a developmental, emotional time in any humans life... angsty teenage-hood.

[@brittany16950]

GO NOLES!!! I also got my undergrad from Florida State!! I am a little older than you, I graduated in 2007.

[@schneewitte5373]

Love your videos!! I also have been searching for, where you have these beautiful earrings from, but couldn't find anything 😔... can you please tell me, where these are from??? Thank you so much Beautiful🤩

[@amyh8144]

Will these micro trends be like cryptic high school yearbook quotes even a few years later? A: WTF does this mean? B: I dunno. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@reneefisher4192]

Does anyone else listen Kackie while driving like it’s an audiobook? Sometimes I just need vocal consent.

[@kackie]

🥰🥰🥰

[@reneefisher4192]

*CONTENT! 🫠

[@mlpnorthsub8543]

A huge THANK YOU to God and my parents for making me a BABY BOOMER!!!!! Whew! 😅

[@MillieMaa]

wait, you were BORN in 1987??? I was graduating high school in 1987!! gah!!!

[@carolefletcher]

Thank for explaining this. I'm 61 and so happy that my youthful indiscretions pre-date the online era. We were the punks, then new wave, then new romantic. Loved all of it, but glad that few people had cameras and there was no internet to immortalise our drinking and drug-taking and screwing around (pre-AIDS, it was a halcyon era). Not to mention the clothes, ye gods.

[@kathleenzea]

The most "cringe" thing for me--and I'm sure I'm misusing the term--is that the whole time you're talking, I'm thinking, yeah, in the 80s I was punk, wasted all the time, sneering to cover massive insecurity, definitely not cool but somewhat threatening, seeming tough to soft people and soft to tough people... Wait, where was I? Oh, yes, I loved listening to you, but I was desperately trying to figure out which product you were using at any given moment. Please flash the product or put the name in a caption. I'm one of the true olds trying to learn to use cream blush, bronzer and contour. I watch all your vids, but please don't tease me, Kackie! ❤😂❤

[@EzraSprouts]

Charli XCX as Indie Sleaze Sherpa is the perfect signing. The whole brat aesthetic is so American Apparel, living that braless Helvetica life. She was sneaking into raves since she was 14, so is culturally kind of an honorary 35-38 year old with less aches and pains!

[@courtneywaggoner5413]

Kackieeeee I’m an elder millennial emo and a swiftie give being a swemo a chance! 😂😂 her lesser known music is quite great and so emo !

[@missdenisebee]

Passion Pit! Jesus I forgot they even existed lol I was in my mid-20s during the indie sleaze era, and enjoying my descent into hedonistic party girl, after being a Certified Good Girl all my life. I honestly don’t remember a ton of it either, being drunk and/or high af😅

[@kristinthehairaddict1444]

Fascinating thought process. It’s easy to be consumed by what’s being presented to us instead of viewing it objectively as you have done. Well done 👍🏼👌🏼 I agree being cringe is freeing. All that being said, i think it’s adderall not caffeine 😂

[@romana.in.wonderland]

As a 47 year old woman who saw Kurt Cobain in concert I am so incredibly happy that smartphones did not exist back then. I enjoyed music festivals, parties, swimming in ponds and lakes, organized barbecues somewhere in the woods (and everyone brought their guitar and cachon). While I was a student and moved to our capital I could not care less about how I looked as I just lived my best life. Learned so much, worked hard, partied even harder and met the best people. I worked as a model and travelled Europe. I loved the 90ties. Nowadays young people seem to be so concerned about their style, their looks, they seem to be so concerned about their health, go to the gym, eat a new diet every other week ... I don't get it. This life shown on social media seems exhausting and boring to me.

[@jasmine.lavender]

3:42 “Are we making fun of the way that a trans woman is choosing to present as female?” I watched the whole video and couldn’t find context for this comment. Genuinely curious, not trying to start an argument or anything. I’m not on tiktok so I didn’t even know about this demure ‘trend’. Also, the WHOA when you put that lip product on was amazing. How did it wear after your first reaction?

[@EmilySmith-vb2hd]

I may have missed it and I didn’t read all of the comments, but what did you think of the new Ilia bronzer?? I’m thinking of picking it up and wanted to know your thoughts! Thanks!!

[@eliflisatuzer]

So true! The photography back then showed us with a glow of sweat in the flash and the photo albums that appeared online the day after an event were POURED over to see if the hot social photographer got you looking good and having fun. Any amount of cultural reflection on what we were doing would have been unnecessary and embarrassing. Phones didn't even take photos! What was "cool" actually made sense

[@Christine-uf3oj]

Positively ANCIENT "Old" here, and I did enjoy this topic, thank you.

[@kellibingham]

Thank you for this explainer. Without it I would've been extremely confused by the Utah department of transportation's recent reel about bridge demolition 😂😂

[@tslrstewart]

Your content is THE BEST!!