Depeche Mode New A.I. Song REACTION!!

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Vaughn George

Vaughn George

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@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
My reaction to the brand new A.I. Depeche Mode song which everyone has been taking about. See the original video by Andrea Fryer here: www.youtube.com/@andrea_fryer Subscribe now to the the Depeche Mode Hub: www.youtube.com/@@DepecheModeHub Join "Vaughn George Locals" - Members Only streaming site: watchvg.com
@jaeeproductions
@jaeeproductions 8 ай бұрын
Here's the problem. Conceivably, Dave Gahan can now quit Depeche Mode...and make a phalanx of new Depeche Mode songs using AI. Why, and how? As you heard, this AI song is not just copying Dave's voice or the sound of Depeche Mode - but rather, it is also copying much of Martin Gore's lyric writing style. You, as a performer, can now release albums that are uncredited AI songs/albums. Who is to expose you without a sonic watermark? Nobody. Once a track is created, if the date and time is not registered...there is no evidence of who did what or when. There is no evidence of AI generation, or using AI to copy another music artist. I learned this from an interview between Rick Beato and Björn Ulvaeus of ABBA (see KZbin). More on that interview later. I brought a similar question to my brother and a DJ that I work with. Again, I asked the following: "What if a musician simply decides to create AI generated sound alike hits of their own past catalogue, and release them as new and original tracks...without AI attribution?" Look at the new Taylor Swift album(s), and how Swift is just seemingly and arbitrarily dropping new album after new album - records that appear oddly emotionless and soulless? Where is she getting the time to do that? Is it possible that she is using AI, and just mass producing new songs via AI? And what of Beyonce, and her nonstop album dumps? It gets worse. Say I want to copy a music producer's style? If I am Def Leppard...and I want to copy the production, arranging, and writing style of Mutt Lange - well, who needs to hire Mutt anymore? How about Shania Twain? She can release new albums that sound like Mutt's past work, without him. If you are Janet Jackson, why rehire Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis for millions of dollars...to produce and write for you...when AI can do the same job...at little cost to you...and no royalty splits...while guaranteeing you a faster workflow? Worse still, this is the ultimate studio killer. Why do you need studios anymore for large recording projects? If I am Aerosmith, why hire Diane Warren to pen another hit...when AI can do it faster...while we control and own the publishing? Just set AI to mirror "I Don't Want to Miss a Thing", and you have a new copycat hit. Want a new Michael Jackson album produced by Quincy Jones, and mixed and recorded by Bruce Swedien...complete with songs written by Rod Temperton and Toto...or featuring studio musicians such as Toto, Greg Phillinganes, Louis Johnson? Simply run their works through AI. Look, I am aware of a synth hybrid machine...that was introduced approximately 20 years ago...that worked similarly to AI. This device was used to target hit songs, by creating sound alike songs. Said invention was employed by record labels. I know this, because I know a producer who had such a device. I have since forgotten the name of the machine, but I do recall that the name began with the letter "M". AI has now gone lightyears past that technology, as it not only imitates songwriting and arranging styles...but it also imitates and delivers fully recorded, mixed, and mastered songs...complete with finished lyrics and vocals. At least, that is my understanding of the process - thanks to Björn Ulvaeus from ABBA having sat down with Rick Beato...for an interview on AI. He informed Beato that an AI company gave him a real-time demonstration of the technology. He indicated the tech is more powerful than already publicly known, and I think I recall him making mention of a year timeline...and what it could do by the end of that timespan? Ulvaeus indicated that the AI company entered ABBA's name, and Frank Sinatra, and a few other celebrity names (I believe Elvis is one of those names)...and the AI perfectly and near instantly replicated an ABBA sound alike song...featuring the guest vocal of the other celebrities. I would assume by Björn Ulvaeus' description of the process, that the song was created...complete with mixed and mastered tracks. I think Ulvaeus also indicted that ABBA song sound alikes...were created in multiples during the same AI demonstration session. Ulvaeus was left in shock, as the quality was spectacular. BTW, I was online 2 weeks ago and discovered an AI version of Simon and Garfunkel performing "Baby's Got Back". There is also a AI cleaned up/denoised...and track separated version of The Beatles' live performance of "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (see KZbin for both).
@ervinkaszap3514
@ervinkaszap3514 8 ай бұрын
Hello Sir, I can not find this song "Like a mystery" on KZbin, which was done in the Depeche Mode sound and Dave Gahan voice imitation which is from your above "Depeche Mode New A.I. Song REACTION!!" video . Would you be so kind to share the link what you got from on of your subscriber please? Btw here is another great DM AI song kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIasfY2Gm8ajjNU
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
It was wild and highly entertaining to watch you react. I had so many people link your video to me. (thanks to those folks btw!) I've seen your "top 10 most disliked DM songs" video and I was expecting the song to be BLUDGEONED! But I'm glad you enjoyed at least a little bit of it! My favorite parts of the song are the little subtle details. Like the way he (or should we say "it") sings "I'm" at 2:52. How does AI figure to do such things!? Crazy! I also like the very subtle percussions at 4:38 and it was kind of cool that you actually closed your eyes at that spot as well. I also like the last sung portion (although we still haven't figure out what the heck he's singing in all of it, but I think it was because I assigned that portion to be "instrumental" and it just crammed some weird gibberish in there).
@catchpass1488
@catchpass1488 8 ай бұрын
This one is better m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5i6goChoNeBpZo
@graph1ks
@graph1ks 8 ай бұрын
You currently have a chat interface which usually allows you to prompt for the styles and moods i.e. "midtempo gothic melancholic sultry synthphop, raspy male vocalist, keyboard synthesizer, trumpet exciter" and additionally either let an AI write the lyrics for you or enter your own lyrics and add things like [Keyboard Intro], Interludes Choruses, Bridge, etc. to guide the AI. The control is far from perfect and often you really have to rely on ear, your own taste and simple repetition to find or build a final song out of it. I hope that helped. Personally i STEM the AI tracks, clean em up as best as i can and mix and master them for the final track. :)
@thirdlantern
@thirdlantern 8 ай бұрын
Is there an A.I. Alan Wilder that could really take this to the next level?
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha! Imagine that!! VG :-)
@vethum
@vethum 8 ай бұрын
Not yet, the tech is not advanced enough to model Alan yet, but we're getting there. I will try to remake all the post Alan DM albums in a way as if Alan produced them. ETA for this is probably 2-5 years from now, I think.
@ninawildr4207
@ninawildr4207 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@denmakenlo890
@denmakenlo890 8 ай бұрын
Oh lord! ❤
@thebeardedseeker5633
@thebeardedseeker5633 8 ай бұрын
That would actually be awesome!
@Lady.Luthien
@Lady.Luthien 8 ай бұрын
Martin would never write garbage lyrics like this!
@DavidHoxworth
@DavidHoxworth 8 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@rswpt
@rswpt 8 ай бұрын
True, but it wasnt bad at all, better than what Martin wrote for the entire Spirit Album...
@ronan.pellen
@ronan.pellen 8 ай бұрын
If only...
@ramalama9650
@ramalama9650 8 ай бұрын
Dave Gahan would.
@tessfenmore6180
@tessfenmore6180 8 ай бұрын
No eay! Come on man Dave Gahan wrote a lot of good songs. Have you ever heard of suffer well ? kingdom? Broken?
@stevechandler4607
@stevechandler4607 8 ай бұрын
I asked ‘Google Gemini’ to write a song in the style of Morrissey, and it refused, citing Morrisseys ‘Racism’!!! So, even AI is cancelling people too.
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Are you serious? OMG, the machines are going WOKE?? Not good!! VG :-)
@stevechandler4607
@stevechandler4607 8 ай бұрын
@@VaughnGeorge maybe the next terminator movie could be about a Woke Cyborg…. Going around cancelling all in its way!…. The worlds gone made mate😀
@derkernspalter
@derkernspalter 7 ай бұрын
@@VaughnGeorge They are not going woke, they are learned by woke.
@MrMissingReel
@MrMissingReel 7 ай бұрын
Good for Morrissey...nobody needs a woke AI Version.
@davidsmithson22
@davidsmithson22 7 ай бұрын
Your story smells 💩
@Rolanoid
@Rolanoid 8 ай бұрын
The scary thing is the synth hook was still playing in my head when I went off to do something after watching this.
@DavidHoxworth
@DavidHoxworth 8 ай бұрын
The sound, the voice, and the feel are very DM... but I felt two big things were missing: 1) the brilliance of Martin's lyrics that are both very clever and deeply meaningful, and 2) an obvious chorus that really hooks.
@germandimplez
@germandimplez 8 ай бұрын
💯
@Soul_In_Isolation
@Soul_In_Isolation 8 ай бұрын
The last time Martin truly cared about lyrics was on Sounds of the Universe
@ddoru75
@ddoru75 8 ай бұрын
Seems to me like Dave's lyrics
@dedelebon
@dedelebon 8 ай бұрын
😻
@utetrp8515
@utetrp8515 8 ай бұрын
You are so so right! ❤
@aarondonaldson4164
@aarondonaldson4164 8 ай бұрын
The sound is there, but it's like the garden section of a big box store. All the ingredients of a garden are there, but it's not a japanese zen garden until Martin Gore puts it all together. There's no soul.
@DavidHoxworth
@DavidHoxworth 8 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@teskosuicide
@teskosuicide 8 ай бұрын
exactly. the lyrics on this AI track completely missed the mark. too generic and cold to be Martin's
@amanieux
@amanieux 8 ай бұрын
ai music is in it's infancy we will soon not be able to tell the difference, interesting times, there is another song andrea fryer generated with AI that's also quite good : kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGakpmZ6l76pask&ab_channel=AndreaFryer
@markp4767
@markp4767 8 ай бұрын
OK let's do this. If it was on their last album, you would not even have noticed😂😂😂 They would have played it in their stadiums, and the millions would be sucking it up throwing praise how it's their best material in years
@mysticladytarot7777
@mysticladytarot7777 7 ай бұрын
Facts
@illume3697
@illume3697 7 ай бұрын
You can steal their voices and sounds but you cannot replicate their songwriting talent.
@VST2323
@VST2323 7 ай бұрын
for now but ai will also replicate and replace any song and genre style you want written in the next 2 to. 5 years its coming songwritters will be replace by record labels soon as well chatgpt 4.o has a incredible songlyric capability if you have the correct promt now imagine feeding it all the lyrics that has been written since the creation of music its unstoppable.
@germanher7528
@germanher7528 7 ай бұрын
it was a lazy try, udio can get better songs, guess the operator didnt show his best and kept the captured vocals for something else
@bustywaifus
@bustywaifus 7 ай бұрын
You can input your own lyrics sooo... yeah. RIP
@HumanMadeGlobal
@HumanMadeGlobal 7 ай бұрын
That's just around the corner.. Ai can also evolve the lyrics beyond its original creator - in the same manor the original creator would have.
@mesasartworks
@mesasartworks 7 ай бұрын
Anyone can write better songs than any released on Spirit
@stefangieck2914
@stefangieck2914 8 ай бұрын
Well, it's like hearing the M1 piano sample for the first time in 1990 and thinking "this sounds so real!"
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
That's a very accurate description! Yes! VG
@dddux
@dddux 7 ай бұрын
So well said!
@nigelcarren
@nigelcarren 7 ай бұрын
I was there that day! 🤣 Prior to that, it was selecting Digital Native Dance on the D50 .
@Terry-nx8kg
@Terry-nx8kg 7 ай бұрын
​@@nigelcarrenI regret selling my D50. Such a powerhouse synth and could create almost any sound. The Soundtrack was my favourite!
@chriswilloughby48
@chriswilloughby48 8 ай бұрын
If Depeche Mode did a cover of this and enhanced it with some new ideas, it could be a good template for a new song.
@dddux
@dddux 7 ай бұрын
They would have to change it significantly to be a really good song. Just IMO of course...
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 ай бұрын
Why would they need to. They may as well take one of their friends's songs.
@pianissimo369
@pianissimo369 7 ай бұрын
Yes I'm a songwriter and actually thinking of doing that. I hate all the studio stuff and it takes forever. This would cut out a lot of the hard work and would be easy to edit after. Don't know what programme they used but I think you can do it on the new version of Logic 🤷
@lunarvision
@lunarvision 7 ай бұрын
This _could be_ the way…
@stephan8472
@stephan8472 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for doing this. I was one of them who asked you to do so on Facebook. I really enjoyed your reaction which was very close to my initial reaction. 👍
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Hello Sir!! You are very welcome! YEs it was initially quite confusing. I will need to listen to it again. t really caught me off guard! VG :-)
@AmOm-k9u
@AmOm-k9u 3 ай бұрын
​@VaughnGeorge It was slightly off in places with the chorus that came on too suddenly and could have used a breather etc. But overall, the most terrifyingly close version I have heard so far, complete with vocal inflections, Martin's backing, certain lyrical themes and related lexicality. A point to consider is that a lot of AI songs are executed in spurts and there is still a human in the loop on the side of the final product, tweaking and collating into the final arrangement.
@ComposerJoakimS
@ComposerJoakimS 8 ай бұрын
Soon we will be able to synthesize the "missing" DM albums from 1988 and 1989, when they were at their artistic and creative peak. Can't wait to hear them.
@Rezje84
@Rezje84 8 ай бұрын
missing albums?
@dddux
@dddux 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like fun!
@mikisteriov4437
@mikisteriov4437 8 ай бұрын
Just another ordinary soup, no sharpness, no contrast, no soul, and most important, no Gorism!
@ivanoleg054
@ivanoleg054 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. AI is polishing the mediocre stuff. No invention. But the ability to make the average better (more pleasant to the masses) makes it dangerous enough.
@anthonymurphy34
@anthonymurphy34 8 ай бұрын
DM at first look like easy prey for AI, but the depth, layer upon layer of human experience that DM have lived and evolved through, make them uninterpretable and untouchable. ❤💀🖤💀❤
@24kHERTZ
@24kHERTZ 8 ай бұрын
I sounds like the algorithm was fed Policy Of Truth combined with Spirit.
@ComposerJoakimS
@ComposerJoakimS 8 ай бұрын
Sounds more like a mix of PTA and Spirit. I can hear a bit of Newborn in he second half.
@markosmkpteam490
@markosmkpteam490 7 ай бұрын
There are AIs trained in music, art, photos, videos, voices, etc., to create music, you use the AI ​​trained for music, you ask it for a dark newwave rhythm, and it will give you several samples, you choose the one you like ( The AI ​​invents because before it listened to thousands and thousands of songs and knows all the genres and how they are composed) then, if you want, you give it a lyric, if you don't have lyrics, you ask chatgpt to invent a lyric about a specific topic, then You put those lyrics to the music AI, and it will give it the chords and there you have a dark newwave song, then, for Dave's voice, you use "deepvoice", which is a voice cloner, where "you change the voice" that the music AI gave you, through Dave's voice, and that's it... you have a song in a matter of minutes...
@xtremediecastracing8468
@xtremediecastracing8468 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I'm actually pretty impressed with it! We need AI Depeche Mode from the Violator era. Great video Vaughn!
@DepecheModeTimeAgain
@DepecheModeTimeAgain 8 ай бұрын
Soon someone will put Speak & Spell, A Broken Frame, Construction Time Again… in a program and the machine will spit new albums : The Spell of Speak, the Frame is Broken, Time for Construction etc…. New songs in the same mood and with the same sounds. It will come…
8 ай бұрын
Y brindo por eso.
@LuckyFlesh
@LuckyFlesh 7 ай бұрын
Masses for the Music.
@sandress2024
@sandress2024 8 ай бұрын
The beginning of the song - the rhythm section is similar to the Freelove Flood edition. The musical part is reminiscent of the melody from the song Newborn
@michaelcatlow8069
@michaelcatlow8069 8 ай бұрын
....."well it sounds better than anything on the Spirit album"....hahaha relentless Vaughn!
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Glad you liked that!! VG :-) :-)
@cosmotraumatika7474
@cosmotraumatika7474 8 ай бұрын
Where's the bridge?!! AI must not know Depeche Mode bridges are legendary.
@DECLOUDS654
@DECLOUDS654 8 ай бұрын
No war, no war, no war No more, no more, no more, no more.......
@johnblackmouth
@johnblackmouth 7 ай бұрын
These AI songs have to be extended before you create them. Some only create songs about two minutes then they cut off.
@oysteinalsaker
@oysteinalsaker 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like De/Vision got Dave to sing on one of their songs.
@I-DOMUSIC-sg9xr
@I-DOMUSIC-sg9xr 7 ай бұрын
A.I. and Alan Wilder walk into a bar ...
@NicolasLakoff
@NicolasLakoff 8 ай бұрын
My first question is who owns the song? Would Depeche Mode be able to use this as a basis to improve the song and not be sued? Would DM consider making it better? I think there are some elements missing, there's not enough echo, vocals are missing an edge. This could be a hit and if DM took it on as a base would it just be considered a tool just like a synth was back in the day or the discovery of the click by Georgio?
@alexvilhelm-mediaentertain626
@alexvilhelm-mediaentertain626 8 ай бұрын
It's a bit ironic that an A.I. DM song is much less repetitive than "the train is coming, the train is coming" and "no more, no more, no war, no war..." :)
@markosmkpteam490
@markosmkpteam490 7 ай бұрын
By the way...AI came to "end" the music industry, people will no longer buy music, because they will be able to make it to their liking at home, the amount they want, with the voices they want, on the topics they want. If you want, there are many Michael Jackson songs...and really good songs... kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnybhGtjjbOXoKs
@DJVIIIMan
@DJVIIIMan 8 ай бұрын
Holy crap. If I wasn't told it was AI generated, I'm not sure that I would have ever figured it out.
@fitzpatrickgf
@fitzpatrickgf 8 ай бұрын
The lyrics suck! One long verse leading into one partial chorus? Too easy to call it out as AI. The human race and mind is quickly deteriorating!
@markp4767
@markp4767 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! Well said - but the 'fans' think otherwise😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
@dddux
@dddux 7 ай бұрын
Are you joking? The lyrics make very little sense to me and that's a tell tale sign it AI. Spend more time on KZbin and you will easily encounter an AI made video. See if you can distinguish it from human work. I can.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 ай бұрын
What? You wouldn't have noticed those lyrics are ridiculously sophomoric and the overall song just much too bland to be released by a professional artist? I'd believe it was a joke demo by them maybe.
@laartwork
@laartwork 7 ай бұрын
Ok then this kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWLEYmejgdKLgposi=FH-l_f-0zpEMEdBL
@ddewittfulton
@ddewittfulton 8 ай бұрын
I don't think DM have much to fear considering where they are in the arc of their career. This isn't like Negativeland putting out an album called "U2" at the height of Joshua Tree hysteria. The depressing reality that awaits us isn't the "fake" versions of our favorite acts, it the replacement of human musicians. The "average" Top 40 music consumer won't care that an algorithm creates the tunes played over the stereo system while they shop. I think real musicians will always make music and the industry is in such a state that I don't it will necessarily make it harder to earn a living. It's already next to impossible. I place the lion's share of my concern in what the future of visual entertainment might become under the auspices of AI. If a media company can make a successful film without actors and writers, why wouldn't they? If a performance can be "rendered" from well of algorithmic likenesses, and a script produced from a sophisticated chatbot in under a half-hour, why wouldn't a studio executive greenlight that project? Do we really think that AI couldn't churn out something at least as competent as a Fast and the Furious movie?
@ericlavallee
@ericlavallee 8 ай бұрын
What a fun, yet creepy experiment.
@HasanAli-fx4kk
@HasanAli-fx4kk 8 ай бұрын
Some great comments VG. I listened to a Nitzer Ebb track recently with Daves vocals in AI. I think it was I Am Undone. I have to say it sounded excellent - would be interesting to AI Daves vocals on some other Nitzer Ebb tracks or even MG sung songs. What do you think?
@heresa_notion_6831
@heresa_notion_6831 8 ай бұрын
I liked it (and "Digital Tears Never Dry" has moments too). It obviously means DM (or any composer) have to raise their A-game a bit to not repeat themselves and grow in directions both true to their past but different from what an AI can anticipate. I liked the synthetic harmonica orchestration in this song. If no other DM song uses harmonicas that way, it might have been selected randomly from a list of "musical effects" not noticed, in the DM corpus, to create an "innovation" (I'm just WAGging here; surely DM has used harmonicas before?). It's important to note that what the AI did isn't really composing; it's generalizing from a known corpus of work by some method (and the voice modeling, whatever it is, is pretty amazing). When Mozart composed, he had to do the same kind of thing as the AI, but Mozart only had DIFFERENT composers to generalize from (e.g., Bach, Handel, Vivaldi, Correlli), and he was also TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT from them (while recognizing his debt to them). The AI doesn't work this way. BTW, David Cope has some albums, where he tries to create (algorithmically?) "new" compositions from "great" composers, e.g. Mozart. Some of it sounds like plagiarism; some of it sounds ok. What I heard with this DM-esque song compared very well with that. Finally, DM needs to chime in as to what they think (and let us know if they get a residual from this, as it is definitely a derivative work).
@sleepysatellite1326
@sleepysatellite1326 8 ай бұрын
So scary to hear an AI song that sounds so much like DM and Dave’s voice is perfectly imitated! That’s very creepy 😅
@nuclearbumrecords
@nuclearbumrecords 8 ай бұрын
I've been using Udio for several weeks, not instructed it to imitate any particular vocalists, and you end up with all sorts, imitations of Bowie, Gabriel, Bjork, Owl City... fun, but crazy
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
Yep! I've gotten Peter Murphy, Bernard Sumner, Siouxsie Sioux etc. I can't understand how they are able to release software like this!
@Diglicous
@Diglicous 7 ай бұрын
Without any context of where is was sourced and if you disregard the images and just listen to the AI version with the expectation that "this is a new DM song" it clearly captures the mood of DM and is believable with the current evolution of AI processing. Scary future for music production.
@TonyFromSyracuse101
@TonyFromSyracuse101 8 ай бұрын
I sang a song using george michaels voice, quite frankly I kind teared up a bit....I have always loved to sing on my songs and covers but while I sing on key I just wasnt blessed with a pleasing sounding voice....so when I used George michaels voice and heard how it turned my voice into that golden sounding tenor...how coiuld I not get a bit misty eyed. AI's possibilities are endless
@Floodland-bn3ol
@Floodland-bn3ol 7 ай бұрын
Why does it show images of Steve Buscemi? 🙂
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 7 ай бұрын
hahaha yeah!! Some have also said it looks like Jeff Goldblum!! VG 🙂
@cenkylmaz975
@cenkylmaz975 8 ай бұрын
Listening to new songs from Dave forever. Without knowing who did it, where and when. Many hidden masterpieces. They may be forward-looking. This is very exciting
@romeocrz
@romeocrz 8 ай бұрын
I've read the original description of the video and saw kind of like a back of the scenes procces of her (the girl that made the "song") but now her account got deleated, and with it all the explanation procces. For what I saw, I can say it was 20% AI just generating samples and 80% this woman typing different key words to nail the DM style, adjusting the vocals, etc. I really dont know her, but she could explain more in depth the development procces
@amanieux
@amanieux 8 ай бұрын
just try for yourself it's free, it's called udio, you can also look other DM style songs andrea fryer generated on a new channel she re-created
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
Hey romeo and thanks for explaining this. Actually the prompting was 0.00% because all I did was write in "Depeche Mode" as a prompt, then Udio replaced the band name with keywords that describe the genre of music. About 1% of the time went to getting the initial 33s clip. After that, the rest of the time went to generating the additional chunks of the song. In total, there were 6 chunks. So for each of those I had to generate dozens of variations until I found ones that I liked.
@gamedad1984
@gamedad1984 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what Depeche Mode thinks about this scary stuff, despite my love for them.🤔
@kylereece1979
@kylereece1979 8 ай бұрын
The look on Vaughan's face over the course of this song says it all. This "New Life" almost frightfully come to life like that. There was a sort of shock, bemusement , bewilderment at the accuracy of the track in places. Had this emerged as a "real song" that say, was an out-take from some recent album, Id absolutely have bought it as a legit DM song. It is scary astohow real it sounds. For the record, as an actual "song", I like it. Were I told twas a real song, without AI involvement, Id have not overthought it, and said "This is a really good song" to myself.
@FusedMusic
@FusedMusic 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting. To be honest I see this in two ways. As an artist this kind of thing lowers the barriers to entry and diminishes the value in the creators sound and work, but then again, hasn't every step forward with music or any other art form done the same thing? Plus doesn't this open up opportunities for artists too? And this tech within a year or so will be indistinguishable. i can hear labels now thinking about the concept of artists licencing their sound to them so they can just create albums automatically, and pay the original artists a kicker? With labels controlling catalogues, they can AI clone from the stems and voila... A new Elvis or Beatles album. If the financial mechanisms can be worked out regarding rights etc, it's an interesting new world out there in my opinion. As you say, terrifying. But then, kinda exciting too.
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Well explained!! VG🙂
@gloraditch6915
@gloraditch6915 8 ай бұрын
Genuinely surprised. Agree it has that Spirit album sound, and melodically the vocals sound like something Martin would write, but lyrically clearly not if the lyrics changed to something Martin was more accustomed to writing, I would be fooled into thinking that this was an actual Depeche Mode track.
@bgelais
@bgelais 8 ай бұрын
Curious, 2 days I prompt a Post Punk / Gotic song on Sunp and the resutlt come with a Dave Gaham vocal and DM style, all without mentioned DM in the prompt. The Suno Ai name it Mirror Image. It's almost curious how this Ai use the "Echoe" word in lyrics, it's like to regonize it as "made with Suno/Udio AI"
@whitewizzardllc2348
@whitewizzardllc2348 8 ай бұрын
A bit of another perspective here…..this is still kind of real because it comes out of something real. It’s born of DMs body of work if you will. It’s generating a pretty good song out of it. It’s interesting but without DM this couldn’t exist so it’s still them in a way.
@DECLOUDS654
@DECLOUDS654 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! In a sense it is real DM, it is made based on DM and the source algorithm is based solely on DM, so it is DM for me.....
@TheFatdust
@TheFatdust 8 ай бұрын
still better than many songs since ultra
@glennaustin37
@glennaustin37 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@hcl8836
@hcl8836 17 күн бұрын
Sadly yes.
@lidiakalita2210
@lidiakalita2210 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait, Vaughn! Your opinion usually merges mine:))) Thank you for your work! Much appreciated 👍🌹😎🎀🖤
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
You are very welcome and thank you for your support!! VG :-)
@juancarloscontrerasdeleon3540
@juancarloscontrerasdeleon3540 8 ай бұрын
I like it, Very dark and synthy, it's probably Alan secretly making a comeback.
@chamboiow
@chamboiow 8 ай бұрын
I agree Vaughn I find that very scary and am concerned about the future based on how AI is developing so rapidly. I thought it was very Depeche Mode like.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but so are a million depeche mode cover bands with their own tracks. Nobody cares. Its not depeche mode. You guys are totally missing out on the celebrity part. If Depeche Mode wasn't famous 80s band but came out last month we wouldn't like their music nearly as much. Its about the era, the moment, the culture, the band's image, the people in it..its not Taylor Swift can do a Madonna song and make it equally as popular or vice-versa. Pop music is a lot more than about the song...and that is why its going downhill. Its much more profitable to nurture one Bieber than sit around and relase 100 tracks on spotify with no artist to back it up in interviews, videos, concerts etc.
@Djkold
@Djkold 8 ай бұрын
I remember back around the release of Exciter I was presented to a song called Ponytail Girl - I honestly thought it was Martin singing a new unreleased song from the album or some secret B-side track.
@interface2x
@interface2x 8 ай бұрын
Fun fact: I know the guy who made that song (Color Theory) and he told me that he once got into an argument with someone who claimed they knew “for a fact” that that was Martin Gore singing. Just wouldn’t take “I know it’s not Martin because it’s ME singing” for an answer.
@Djkold
@Djkold 8 ай бұрын
@@interface2x Hah, that's funny :-D I can definitely see that happening.
@davidwilliams5247
@davidwilliams5247 7 ай бұрын
Freaky , if I'd heard that on the airwaves and not known it was AI, I'd have honestly thought that was a new release.
@RobinPM100
@RobinPM100 8 ай бұрын
I can see 4:40, that you are seriously fascinated by it and you like this part ;-)
@secretsymphony
@secretsymphony 8 ай бұрын
The lyrics are lame. You can tell there was no human heart in it. AI doesn't know what is good or bad and has no motivation to write about anything - like Stock, Aitken and Waterman back in the day... 😉
@sarahdmgirl5743
@sarahdmgirl5743 8 ай бұрын
I like this. The one thing that would make me suspicious if I didn't know it was AI are the dodgy lyrics... can't imagine MLG writing them
@autecheee
@autecheee 8 ай бұрын
Evil Mirror Universe Depeche Mode
@marcinkaczynski4733
@marcinkaczynski4733 7 ай бұрын
This song is good ......realy good
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 ай бұрын
I was going to insult you but then realize you may be young and all you hear is The Weekend and Drake. Then its a fantastic masterpiece in comparison..otherwise..its really really really really bad.
@laartwork
@laartwork 7 ай бұрын
​@@stoneneils That is your coping mechanism. I was there with you. Now I moved on to acceptance. Also remember your favorite artist was hated by the generation before. You can read reviews about how the Beatles didn't qualify as music.
@stoneneils
@stoneneils 7 ай бұрын
@@laartwork Exactly my point. You confirmed what I said: its not about the music, its about the entire package. AI can't compete with humans because it isn't going to be loved by anyone, its not cute, its not sexy, its not going to appear in the media under various crazy headlines, it won't do interviews, it doesn't have a backstory. I can go all day. The only people who might have to move to acceptance are those who score for films, commericals, etc.
@luxdico
@luxdico 7 ай бұрын
now A.I. should do some songs in the style of the Violator / SOFD era and plan a tour with avatars and call it "a can of worms has been opened here"
@peterb3075
@peterb3075 7 ай бұрын
I reckon it’s really cool. Imagine the fun you could have with depeche mode performing with a whole heap of different artists and styles . Imagine miles Davis on keyboard or van Halen influencing the percussion . Even better imagine competent musicians playing around and redefining forgotten tracks for a new era .
@AnalogX64
@AnalogX64 8 ай бұрын
This sounds to me like a Soulsavers track. I actually like it 😁 I went looking for this song and only found a 1-minute version on TikTok looks like there was a copy on KZbin, but the channel was terminated.
@InfraRedLight
@InfraRedLight 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you Vaughn, it is scary and shocking. I like this track in general, but I don’t hear there something like human breath. As Alan Wilder said: “I like electronics, but I like a human being as well” (I am paraphrasing). In the other hand I like AI “virtual collaboration” of Dave Gahan and Alan Wilder “I am Undone” (originally by Nitzer Ebb) and “Polaroid”. I would like to say I don’t like it, because it’s artifical, but I do. Some DM fans may insult me for that, but I think these two tracks could be a kind of inspiration for DM, because it sounds more Depeche and much better than… ehm, OK, that’s all I have to say 😅
@DavidHoxworth
@DavidHoxworth 8 ай бұрын
Dave's main function is to bring the front man energy and the amazing voice. The AI version checks the second box, but could never check the first one... front man stuff can only be done by a human. Martin's function is the creative songwriting (music and lyrics), and AI isn't able to do either of those... because (IMO) those require humanity as well.
@Joasoze
@Joasoze 7 ай бұрын
This is gen 1, believe me. The lyrics, beat and all will be 10 times better in just a year or two
@luislaplaza9660
@luislaplaza9660 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me when in the film "Alien", the new creature was born.
@linobianchi7728
@linobianchi7728 8 ай бұрын
It's good & I like it. Simply.
@ludochem
@ludochem 7 ай бұрын
there s an alan wilder remix of a nitzer ebb track "I am undone" someone re-done it using AI Dave Gahan s voice. Have you heard it?
@Trance88
@Trance88 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure this is made using the same type of process that sites like Suno use. Some of it can be ridiculously convincing, but there's usually something about it that doesn't make sense or sound quite right.
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
This was made with Udio, which is a newer AI music generator founded by ex-Google AI experts.
@ivanoleg054
@ivanoleg054 8 ай бұрын
I can relate 100% to your feelings and thoughts about this track.
@ivanoleg054
@ivanoleg054 8 ай бұрын
AI is polishing the mediocre stuff. No invention. But the ability to make the average better (more pleasant to the masses) makes it dangerous enough.
@MichaelSzatmary
@MichaelSzatmary 8 ай бұрын
sorry for an off grid question, maybe you talked about it, but when and why you moved from london to estonia? Just curious. Thanx.
@AberrantSpark
@AberrantSpark 8 ай бұрын
This was very interesting! Where may we see the original video?
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
My original channel was removed by KZbin. I have a new channel now where I have reuploaded this song (and others). Look for "Like a Mystery". (I did switch the graphics this time to play it safe)
@crisweer
@crisweer 8 ай бұрын
Listening to this AI-generated Depeche Mode song is like glimpsing into a parallel universe where the band effortlessly churns out albums at lightning speed! It's fascinating how AI can pick up on the formula and offer a starting point for creativity. Yet, as much as it's a tool for acceleration, it also highlights the irreplaceable role of human musicians and editors. After all, crafting a masterpiece requires technical prowess and style, taste, and judgment cultivated over time. This track may lack the complexity of later Depeche Mode albums, like the intricate layers in 'Memento Mori', but it reminds us of AI's potential to assist and challenge our creative process. Disclaimer: This comment is ChatGPT generated.
@steveanimatrix3887
@steveanimatrix3887 8 ай бұрын
"That's not music!" "Bruh, I prompted it."
@fakinel
@fakinel 7 ай бұрын
Excellent song. On Spotify?
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 7 ай бұрын
So many people have asked me to upload this and the other DM AI songs to Spotify but I don't want to as I believe you can't opt out of monetization in that platform. I don't want to monetize these songs as I feel it would be utterly unethical. I have uploaded them to SoundCloud though (but obviously will not be monetizing them there either).
@marting6037
@marting6037 8 ай бұрын
Astounding but yes, as you said, frightening at the same time
@Technolen
@Technolen 8 ай бұрын
You´re absolutelly right... It really SOUNDS LIKE Depeche Mode but it´s without SOUL, it´s just an algorithm... Good tool and servant, bad master ;-)
@VaughnGeorge
@VaughnGeorge 8 ай бұрын
Well said!! VG:-)
@taykitrleevitt4314
@taykitrleevitt4314 8 ай бұрын
The lyrics are reminiscent of the AI comments that have started appearing on the Tube, with them panty clad thumbnails.
@4WrightFam4
@4WrightFam4 8 ай бұрын
That Dave artwork was so evil looking. Ick.
@sonofhibbs4425
@sonofhibbs4425 7 ай бұрын
It’s gross and repulsive. Agree.
@UlyssesZopol
@UlyssesZopol 8 ай бұрын
Is there a link somewhere to the original track? It was gone from YT within days...
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
I have uploaded it to my new channel. It's called "Like a mystery" - read the video description for details.
@vinesh3643
@vinesh3643 8 ай бұрын
Me likes it. Impressive, seems to have many different DM sounds. It has got that "hook" missing from current DM albums. Damn, now that song is stuck in my head.
@AckieleeAi
@AckieleeAi 7 ай бұрын
There are two ways to make AI music the first way is you can perform your song by recording it and the other way is to enter a prompt in the music software like Suno and udio
@dorsetyid1969
@dorsetyid1969 7 ай бұрын
Scary how they mimicked Dave’s voice, and certain elements were very DM. Lyrics and other elements missing. But considering how early AI is in its infancy it’s truly terrifying and disastrous on so many levels
@hollowmantra
@hollowmantra 8 ай бұрын
Where can I listen to this ? I can’t find it anywhere?
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
On my new channel (the old one was removed).
@fossilrecord9831
@fossilrecord9831 6 ай бұрын
I watched this video on the exact 35th anniversary of the release of Counterfeit
@ninawildr4207
@ninawildr4207 8 ай бұрын
Listen to the AI Dave Gahan and Alan Wilder I Am Undone...I love that one😀
@KRAFTWERK2K6
@KRAFTWERK2K6 7 ай бұрын
Well. This is for sure a great A.I. Demo for a possible real Depeche Mode song. So i wonder what would happen if Martin would rewrite the lyrics and record this with Dave. But i doubt they would as they would probably both not feel 100% ok with that as it would really be entirely their own thing.
@cyberchrist9373
@cyberchrist9373 8 ай бұрын
The song was generated by Andrea Fryer. She was very transparent about the process, described in detail how she got Udio to yield this result. Unfortunately, they stomped all of her channels shortly after. She has posted about this. It's unclear why KZbin came for her. It prob wasn't because of the DM AI songs that she posted. If you want more Depeche Mode from Udio, click here: :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX_YlX-Fbb13nqc
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for telling people what happened.
@canturgan
@canturgan 7 ай бұрын
The instrumentation and production was spot on.
@mikefrost5022
@mikefrost5022 8 ай бұрын
Duran Duran released an official music video for their song Invisible, where all of the visuals in the video were created by an AI. The music is by the band. The AI that created the video is called Huxley.
@nexxxus6
@nexxxus6 8 ай бұрын
Pearl Jam have done the something similar with their 'Dark Matter' album and 'visualiser' videos.
@tompogson9755
@tompogson9755 8 ай бұрын
It's like Precious but without a normal chorus. I know from the Matt Vid Pro channel that song creation ai is just getting lbetter at longer consistency. Cold Fusion just had Rick Beato on and he was like, yeah, we are going to eventually have hit number ones that had no humans involved. I think, from playing live music and knowing how people look for that, there will always be its opposite push for songs made by people. Funny thing about this was I didn't know if by the title it meant Martin was trying out ai or if it was an ai Martin. Turns out it's the latter lol
@SunilP2
@SunilP2 8 ай бұрын
Great video, as always, VG. There's nothing intrinsically "wrong" with the traditional way to make electro music. One still had to WRITE the songs, for example, where would DM be without Martin Gore's song-writing? A.I. is a completely different level of "cheating", if that's the right word.
@SimpleTricksNonsense
@SimpleTricksNonsense 7 ай бұрын
I'd love for someone to us AI to make DM covers of other songs. Like I think Romeo Void's "Girl in trouble" would be perfect for a DM cover
@jaysonhaughey2412
@jaysonhaughey2412 7 ай бұрын
I was astounded by the brand new single from Randy Travis, who wrote with some help a song and he oversaw the sampling of his own songs to reproduce this new song that he wrote. I would say that is probably a better example of AI working from an artist perspective, then this song that sounds like an unreleased B-side from spirit
@martinwindebank3847
@martinwindebank3847 7 ай бұрын
In Scotland it might be called Depish Mode
@The.Last.Guitar.Hero.
@The.Last.Guitar.Hero. 8 ай бұрын
sounds better than anything since Ultra!
@glennaustin37
@glennaustin37 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@OrafuDa
@OrafuDa 7 ай бұрын
Since you asked for a bit of education on AI … here is my best summary. (I was educated as computer scientist in the early 90s, including AI, plus other related bits like some neuroscience, etc. And I have been thinking about these things. Below is a summary of my thoughts, so far.) At this point, AI is more like Amalgamation and Imitation rather than Artificial Intelligence. That is, collecting information (during its training), putting it in a pool and/or melding it together, and then later drawing on this information pool or meld to generate imitations. It is really good at that, and it is similar to what big chunks of our brains do too. But things like being in the real world and evolving with it are missing. Also, no sustained thought process beyond what is already there. No pondering or brooding. And no emotionally driven thinking. And so on. All the new information must come from the prompt that the AI is being fed. So that is where the artistic process comes in, the rest is just an incredible tool that can imitate everything in DM’s music so far really really well. And combine it with everything in music or other areas in general … but again, as instructed by a prompt, and also adding its own “hallucinations”. (AI hallucinates, because it “invents” things that were not present in the training data.) And part of the process is to run the AI several or even many times, and to select from its output. So, this is also driven by a human, and their artistic process. This is where we are right now. - Now, AI companies are working on adding all the missing ingredients of general intelligence in. Including letting the AI make its own experiences in the world. And “thinking” about them, reacting, etc. There comes a point where we would be hard pressed to find anything that is missing from an AI, and that humans have. Of course, I do not expect that people could have children with an AI, so that part would be missing from its experience. And we have no idea what consciousness is in the physical world, and how it arises … so maybe it doesn’t have it, but maybe it does?? In general, this is really hard to analyze with science, because we don’t know how to go about it. Also, the training data fed into an AI only includes the output of humans. We have no insight into the inner states of humans, and therefore cannot feed that into an AI. And therefore AI can only imitate things based on the previous output of humans, rather than imitate their inner processes and what comes out of that. In other words, we may be able to build AIs at some point that imitate brains … but we will still not be able to copy the *state* that Alan Wilder’s brain is in, at any given time, for example. Also, even an autonomously learning AI will not make Alan Wilder’s experiences … but its own experiences. So, given all this, I believe AIs will still end up being tools … for artists and others. We are interested in things created by a living, breathing person who makes relatable experiences in the real world. And AI will still be a tool used to express those human experiences. One of the problem areas will be autonomous AIs. Mr. Datas (from Star Trek TNG), if you want. Because they will fall into a somewhat uncanny valley where we don’t know how exactly we should relate to them. And any real relationship with them will be difficult to explore … like meeting an alien. We don’t know if they will exhibit any human qualities that we would expect and want to rely on, in a similar way. Think about HAL in “2001”. Then again, we have similar difficulties with some humans. Autists and people with ADHD, for example. The neurological differences tend to make them defy expectations, and that makes it somewhat difficult to relate to them. (Btw, I believe I am one of them, awaiting diagnoses … so, in my own way, I am also speaking from personal experience. Some things expected from me are really really hard for me.) I hope this helps a bit. :) All the best and thank you for this video! :)
@laurenkoehler3624
@laurenkoehler3624 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. As you spoke I was sharing a very similar thought process of thinking…if this leaked and we thought it was real.. we may feel differently about it. I think that a majority of devotees will have that thought process especially with the depth of DM. It isn’t just a sound it is an emotion, and those emotions are pulled from the minds of some of the most brilliant musicians who we admire as humans. I hope that made sense. I know for me part of the reason why I feel so deeply for the band is because of how much thought, passion and originality is put into the songs… so to remove the artistry from the music in such a way leaves me with a void. It’s odd. I appreciate the sound that I’m hearing, but it’s like a shell .. or a fragment of what should be.
@fred74...33
@fred74...33 8 ай бұрын
Hello is it possible to have the link for this song?
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
Look within for "Like a Mystery"
@fred74...33
@fred74...33 8 ай бұрын
@@andrea_fryer found nothing...
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
@@fred74...33 Did you do a search or go to my page? I have it right there as a feautured video.
@liveanadventure429
@liveanadventure429 8 ай бұрын
What is it called when
@TimothySmiths
@TimothySmiths 8 ай бұрын
There are a number of Ai generated Dm songs out there, all of them sound like Dave for sure. One thing i have found is that almost all the Ai generated songs lack a good chorus, there is no repeated hooky chorus to them.. There is even Martin singing Hunting High and Low from A-Ha, as well as Dave singing De/Vision songs. The AI songs are listenable , and decent at sounding like it could be Dm , but certainly fail in the lyrics, you have some that literally repeat song titles or lyrics from previous DM songs at times.
@DavidHoxworth
@DavidHoxworth 8 ай бұрын
Nailed it 👍
@mrwanksock
@mrwanksock 8 ай бұрын
Where is the link to the song?
@andrea_fryer
@andrea_fryer 8 ай бұрын
You can find it on my channel. It's called "Like a Mystery".
@HjsMrtn
@HjsMrtn 8 ай бұрын
Remember when digital photography appeared. Classical photographers were against. But now, even for them is normal... you can't recognize if digital photo is reality...
@frankjamesbonarrigo7162
@frankjamesbonarrigo7162 7 ай бұрын
I think there are other apps for all this, the graphics, midjourney, the audio is not chatgpt
@sarahmckeown3146
@sarahmckeown3146 8 ай бұрын
"Well, it sounds better than anything on the Spirit album.' 😀 Brutal! 😉
@rswpt
@rswpt 8 ай бұрын
Its true, its far better than anything on Spirit Album... the AI song is actually good...
@cenkerpanir20
@cenkerpanir20 8 ай бұрын
Truth and better than anything on exciter or delta machine
@buney
@buney 8 ай бұрын
True though!
@przemekkulesza3242
@przemekkulesza3242 7 ай бұрын
@@cenkerpanir20 yeah, yeah, and Violator, SOFAD and Ultra - all's fine?
@cenkerpanir20
@cenkerpanir20 7 ай бұрын
@@przemekkulesza3242 well I liked violator sofad (live) and ultra … I just thought spirit delta machine and exciter were lack lustre even playing the Angel and sounds of the universe were good
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