VTuber Tropes: The Powerhouse

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Depressed Nousagi

Depressed Nousagi

Күн бұрын

In every ideal VTuber wave composition, one of them has to take the lead when it comes to performing, or making their content. One of them has to be the center of attention. One of them has to be the Powerhouse, and in this video, we try to explore what that is
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@risktorise2103
@risktorise2103 Жыл бұрын
Suisei almost didn't join Hololive because she doesn't want to abandon her original avatar. Thankfully Yagoo agreed to such unusual demand . Maybe she already shown that much potential , she just need support to promote her talents.
@kingsonsofaru423
@kingsonsofaru423 Жыл бұрын
She joined under the condition that she would be placed in Inonaka Music. She wouldn't be moved to the main branch until much later.
@tanvoltz4623
@tanvoltz4623 Жыл бұрын
Head cannon Sora used A-chan's connection as head staff to make it happen. ( Sora did say she recognize Suisei even back when Suisei was an indie) and A-chan have the power to make some big decision like moving Suisei to the main branch. Sora recognized Suisei's drive and eagerness to accomplish her dreams, something I am sure Sora, A-chan and Yagoo all want to support.
@ThePrastomo
@ThePrastomo Жыл бұрын
You want to know how Kaela balance her streaming stamina? Because she's the definition of gamer. She is at her zone when she gamin'. If you saw 12 hours Kaela gaming stream, you didnt see a 12 hours work. Its her having 12 hours of trully living her live.
@Wolf-oc6tx
@Wolf-oc6tx Жыл бұрын
There is also the fact she has that gene that enables some people to run on half the sleep other people need.
@theTrueLinkC
@theTrueLinkC Жыл бұрын
She is literally builded different with the stamina of a titan
@Wolf-oc6tx
@Wolf-oc6tx Жыл бұрын
@@theTrueLinkC Agreed.
@DrLigma1010
@DrLigma1010 Жыл бұрын
What i got from this is he might change his name to "Least Depressed Hoshiyomi"
@rhonpen5388
@rhonpen5388 Жыл бұрын
Deprived Hoshiyomi.
@Kiriemy
@Kiriemy Жыл бұрын
Masochist Hoshiyomi
@ultimate9685
@ultimate9685 Жыл бұрын
Least sexually frustrated Hoshiyomi
@fusionxtras
@fusionxtras Жыл бұрын
​​@@ultimate9685suipiss? You wont regret it
@marioprawirosudiro7301
@marioprawirosudiro7301 Жыл бұрын
Well, I personally think the best example of a powerhouse in Holo is Kanata. If you don't believe me, feel free to try out her grip yourself.
@gremmy7440
@gremmy7440 Жыл бұрын
Dad’s Talent is unmatched, the grindset never ends
@IrfanSDeprecate
@IrfanSDeprecate Жыл бұрын
Kaela Is so underrated and people should go watch her stream and experience why Pemaloe lack of sleep 😂🗿
@lynardskynard2895
@lynardskynard2895 Жыл бұрын
She was not that good at the beginning because she tried too hard to become the cool archetype, I am glad she managed to find herself again and become the absolute gamer she destined to be.
@bashamd96
@bashamd96 Жыл бұрын
​@lynardskynard2895 She realized that the coolest thing is to be yourself and we all agreed
@majesticfox
@majesticfox Жыл бұрын
@@lynardskynard2895 It was not helping either that her first 3 months she still had dayjob too.
@suruzu
@suruzu Жыл бұрын
Suisei's probably showed up on japan national tv the most (and not just in a news segment). With her most recent tv appearance she was on the MUSIC DAY on NTV alongside well-known japanese and kpop artists. Her merch always sells out instantly and even has some of the most expensive products (looking at you mochidoru and weiss Stellar SSP). Maybe you can argue that she's up there because she has the effort, talent, brand image, and money-making power.
@xxx-lq7ho
@xxx-lq7ho Жыл бұрын
i think she not popular in west because singing is not alway people want i watch keala fauna they not singers the more like intertainment
@cuongquoc5877
@cuongquoc5877 Жыл бұрын
@@xxx-lq7ho More like Suisei doesnt speak enough English and she rarely streams tbh due to her busy IRL schedule. If she could speak some more english like Coco then she would have been way more popular
@xxx-lq7ho
@xxx-lq7ho Жыл бұрын
@@cuongquoc5877 uea youre right its like keala many english people like keala because she can speak english also many clippers for her she is build different
@Milkthrow
@Milkthrow Жыл бұрын
Showmanship, spectacle, charisma, presence, hardwork... It's honestly very impressive and commendable. Calli's "End of a life" and Suisei's "Ghost" talk about how much of a sacrifice and mental toll adopting this stage persona can be to the vulnerable human behind it, however they continue to power through it and push their fears back, displaying that drive that makes them aim to the top and become the undisputed number 1.
@NonJohns
@NonJohns Жыл бұрын
i like calli's red too i think its about how her career isn't going to last and it's a struggle but shes moved by struggle and her own sheer will to push it further
@azurerider812
@azurerider812 Жыл бұрын
And together...it just will not stop for anyone. The Death Star will incinerate, clear and mog everyone short of the best.
@Dingus_Khaan
@Dingus_Khaan Жыл бұрын
Korone definitely fits into the "powerhouse" slot for GAMERS. She's well known for her incredibly long streams, and she's certainly one of the best dancers in Hololive too. She's also a physical powerhouse too. She does boxing.
@TrollOmnipotence
@TrollOmnipotence Жыл бұрын
I would even argue Korone is an Apex powerhouse for gaming. Game devs love her. She's SEGA's Sonic Ambassador(has her own Korone dlc on Sonic Frontiers even) . Has voice acted in series / movie projects. Suisei is def on top of the HoloFoodchain.
@grimstnzborithbrisingr7296
@grimstnzborithbrisingr7296 Жыл бұрын
*kickboxing
@DepressedNousagi
@DepressedNousagi Жыл бұрын
i want koron to punch me
@LauLessPariah
@LauLessPariah Жыл бұрын
​@@DepressedNousagiso do we DepNo. So do we
@basedsketch4133
@basedsketch4133 Жыл бұрын
Strong like Mercedes Benz
@lordvolsung1203
@lordvolsung1203 Жыл бұрын
Called it, you're going for Suisei. I'm not really a Hoshiyomi myself, but I would agree.
@_Vancelvany_
@_Vancelvany_ Жыл бұрын
Moona is a powerhouse alright. When she takes off her jacket, she got 2 balls of energy that can power houses. But seriously, her stage presence is amazing. One of the true stars & artists in Hololive & the vtuber world. She stands with Suisei, Calliope, Baelz, & Laplus in the Hololive stage queens and performative powerhouse.
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas 11 ай бұрын
The lady is straight-up a musical diva that Hololive struck gold with, and is right behind Suisei, next to AZKi.
@user-dy3sq8pg2d
@user-dy3sq8pg2d Жыл бұрын
Risu is the equivalent of a sleeper build imo..
@QRenjo
@QRenjo Жыл бұрын
Personally, in ID Gen3, Kaela is not really the Powerhouse. She is the Leader, completed by Zeta as the Heart.
@kato_dsrdr
@kato_dsrdr Жыл бұрын
She's the powerhouse at least in streaming/gaming sense.
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that be Kobo? I'm not done watching the video yet, but she sounds like a good fit.
@mung01re
@mung01re Жыл бұрын
>Zeta Who?
@birubu
@birubu Жыл бұрын
@@HudaefCareskobo gets gremlin status, same as laplus, Gura, and occasionally mumei
@seimeianri
@seimeianri Жыл бұрын
@@kato_dsrdrI agree, and in Hololive, gaming and streaming is what they do in their downtime, while their other projects are on development
@TheMadSalviGaming
@TheMadSalviGaming Жыл бұрын
As a vtuber myself, I wish I had 1/10th of the raw talent and the tenacity that Suisei has. She has worked her butt off, and overcome adversity. She really is someone who deserves respect. Yagoo was very smart to allow her to keep her avatar, and join the company. She is an indispensable talent in Hololive.
@gori272
@gori272 5 ай бұрын
I've never heard of you but I genuinely wish you luck, I hope soon enough you'll find your own crowd of people who would support you in whatever project/stream/activity that you do Just gathering enough courage to start is already hard (if not the actual hardest thing to do), so I think you're already better than most people just by being able to that 😊 remember that there are people who support you even though you can't actually see them!
@Tharja-iBW
@Tharja-iBW Жыл бұрын
The sad part is gen 5 WOULD have had a power house if Aloe had stayed in Hololive. I mean have you seen her current work? She's cracked.
@brokeback9299
@brokeback9299 Жыл бұрын
What is she doing now?
@Tharja-iBW
@Tharja-iBW Жыл бұрын
@@brokeback9299 streaming and releasing music as Delutaya.
@LapisD
@LapisD 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, Aloe had the talent AND the ambition to be the powerhouse of Gen 5, she had everything to be one of the faces of Hololive in performance and stage presence. It's really a sad thing that we lost such a talent like her
@samakechijowo
@samakechijowo Жыл бұрын
Apex Powerhouse, I say there should be another category below that, for those who are the one who carry the whole agency. That category may consist of : Suisei... Not really because there's a lot of powerhouses in Hololive. Idol EN, I think currently Rin Penrose Phase Connect got Pipkin Pippa VShojo is Ironmouse VOMS Project used to be Pikamee Maha5 used to be Zen Gunawan Suisei's role as Apex is, she carry the whole concept of vtuber at this point, more than Kizuna Ai IMO. Her First Take performance introduced many new people into vtubing. Even channels that never really cover Vtuber before starts doing so after reacting to her Stellat Stellar performance there.
@Frzned9x
@Frzned9x 10 ай бұрын
Sora would fit into the Hololive one, she was the one hard carrying Hololive until it blew up.
@michaelsmale4830
@michaelsmale4830 Жыл бұрын
Let’s goo my oshi being the powerhouse both in lore and irl which is why I like calli and botan and marine because they have confidence and have a good work ethic and getting that bag which i extremely respect and strive to do 😳❤️
@MrNorker77
@MrNorker77 Жыл бұрын
Calli has a good work ethic? She's a frickin' workaholic and really needs to put on the brakes or risk burnout (She has gotten better, but still)
@michaelsmale4830
@michaelsmale4830 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNorker77 okay yeah I’m one of those people that believes she needs a break and chill sometimes but for my adhd ridden ass she is respectable to me cause of her hard work where I can only strive to at least reach a level to be less lazy/motivated to do anything
@MrNorker77
@MrNorker77 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelsmale4830 Yeah, it's a mixed bag. I love all the content and the person behind her put out, but can't help feel a bit afraid that she's going to push herself too much. In the end (just like with Kaela) I think I have to trust them being adults and knowing their own limits better then I do (I guess management helps too). And good for pointing it out, I've noticed that Calli's work ethic has inspired me to do better myself!
@michaelsmale4830
@michaelsmale4830 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNorker77 yeah man I get what you mean we want what’s best for our oshi and management there is good for help the talents we love so I understand and respect your opinion about what I was saying and good on you dude 👍
@jayzenstyle
@jayzenstyle Жыл бұрын
​@@MrNorker77I think the same way. Calli is addicted to working, like crack. She needs to chill if her body is giving her signs to rest or take a break. Can't blame her though, her content is pretty decent and consistently good(with very few duds, usually the experimental ones).
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 Жыл бұрын
Confidence goes a long way, especially since you can see it develop even if that's how they always were as a person. Depressed Hoshiyomi strikes again.
@zomfgroflmao1337
@zomfgroflmao1337 Жыл бұрын
There is also something that wasn't covered so far and that is 'the gamer', quite rare, but often comes with a lot of know how and behind the scenes organizing. Selen and Botan are the obvious examples (and I still wish we could get a collab between them), both support other members behind the scenes with tech and connections, both are very intelligent and both are pro level at games (basically any game they touch).
@QRenjo
@QRenjo Жыл бұрын
They were already covered in the first part. Botan and Selen are very similar to Amelia - the Leader. Gamer is different classification altogether, like Illustrator, or Singer, or Zatsudan Specialist Vtuber.
@kabob21
@kabob21 Жыл бұрын
@@QRenjo I’m guess? But Botan and Selen weren’t mentioned at all in the Leader video and I honestly agree with OP that they’re both the powerhouses of their gens, especially with international audiences
@busetgadapet
@busetgadapet Жыл бұрын
except botan giving up playing fps and instead being casual gamer, while selen nowadays playing with pros
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas 11 ай бұрын
​@@busetgadapetAnd we're acting like Botan can't pick up again? See the Valorant comp from a couple weeks ago.
@SilverMystes1
@SilverMystes1 Жыл бұрын
In Hololive, Suisei is truly untouchable atm. I know it’s not good comparing, but in terms of talent and success, she is leaps above the others even Calli. It’s like there is Hololive, and then there’s Suisei. They are two standalone brands imo at this point. So being the apex powerhouse makes sense and is deserving of a title. Sadly, I think Calli has already reached her peak but I’m more than glad to be proven wrong.
@coltsm
@coltsm Жыл бұрын
after Calli got the One Piece collab I also have a hard time thinking how can she do even better, but hey, I was never expecting the One Piece collab either so she can surprise us for sure.
@AB-dd4jz
@AB-dd4jz Жыл бұрын
I think the One Piece collab will open her a lot of doors, her song was extremely good, and I'm sure this is only the beginning to many very worthwhile collab she will get in the future.
@tanvoltz4623
@tanvoltz4623 Жыл бұрын
The difference is Attitude. Despite Calli's putting herself out there with big collaborations and projects. Calli isn't exactly aiming to be a "Star" I am willing to bet Calli is very content with where she is right now. She still works a shit ton like the workaholic she is and isn't passing up any opportunity that comes her way, but I don't think Calli is particularly aiming for anything concrete like "Budokan" and she is just focused on making her Deadbeats happy and making sure she can be a gateway for greater opportunity for everyone else, like recommending Ollie to Oral Cigarettes. Sora is pretty much in the same boat, She has her "Yokahama" dream but also isn't too fuss about rushing to it and is perfectly content spending the long haul with her Soratomos focusing on being a solid ground for Hololive with her often being central to moral in events like Holosummer or when she gave a speech to all of Covercorp employees during one of the workshops. Suisei on the other hand compare to the two is a lot more aggressive with her approach. That's partly why she is truly unrivaled.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was coincidence and Wikipedia editors just happened to be Hoshiyomis but I am pretty sure there was a reason why Suisei was the first Hololive JP member to have her own Wikipedia article (for Hololive overall however, I think Gura got one before Suisei tho).
@akumafuhen
@akumafuhen Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same until the one piece collab. Idk for me personally that song and her voice was like a double level up lol, and when she sang it live I was like...holyshit!!!. So I think in Callis cause what she's really missing is producers or whatever that can guide her and direct her like they did with the future island. I'm excited for her new ep, Calli has the insane lvls of willpower and a bulldozer mentality lol so I think she has lots of growth left. I know she'll get that one album or song that'll truly send her into top of the top.
@kevsthebadboy1703
@kevsthebadboy1703 Жыл бұрын
I hope you make another trope called: "The Legend": Vtubers that crashed on the Earth like a meteor, forever influencing the industry. I'm just making an excuse for you to feature Coco and Kson lmao.
@mrbeemstdraws286
@mrbeemstdraws286 Жыл бұрын
Coco Yes, Kson, Lmao
@laethinfowler2317
@laethinfowler2317 Жыл бұрын
@@mrbeemstdraws286 ....? You, know they are the same, right?
@pannacotta9493
@pannacotta9493 Жыл бұрын
Add Kizuna Ai to that, also Iinchou, and Suisei... Again... Because who is more deserving than the first vtuber ever to be included in The First Take
@ifdy1361
@ifdy1361 Жыл бұрын
It's not a troupe but my personal list based on your description would be coco,kizuna ai, ironmouse, fubuki/suisei, Neuro sama, tsukino Mito and vox akuma I really couldn't pick between suisei and fubuki, suisei impact on Japanese entertainment, like first take and radio is incredible but fubuki also spread vtuber culture overseas with her meme and talent, also unknown to some people. The first interaction between hololive and Indonesia is when fubuki agreed to do 3d collab with Indonesian vtuber, you can argue that is the last push that yagoo need to open an ID branch
@Ms666slayer
@Ms666slayer Жыл бұрын
@@ifdy1361 I would ad Gura because even normies know she's a thing.
@Dazreil
@Dazreil Жыл бұрын
Mouse is the powerhouse of Vshojo and I think that might have some do to with some of the others leaving, The company want all it's member to be at the same level as her, while not realising she is the outlier.
@arysetyawan4110
@arysetyawan4110 Жыл бұрын
Mitocondria is powerhouse of a Cell
@97Multiphantom
@97Multiphantom Жыл бұрын
At long last, my da- I mean kami oshi gets her time in the spotlight!
@JinSeiryuu
@JinSeiryuu Жыл бұрын
I see my Oshi in a thumbnail instant like Powerhouse really does suit Calli she is known to be a workaholic after all
@kayschut9327
@kayschut9327 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with Polka being the powerhouse of Holo Gen5, however I feel she's undersold in the video. Polka is a top contender for the best entertainer in the entirety of Hololive.
@ifdy1361
@ifdy1361 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, aside from being an incredible entertainer, people didn't realize her vocal range is INSANE only second to Kanata, she also has the most unique vocal in hololive, her experience in the vtubing scene is also unknown to some people, before hololive her activity started around the same time as gen 0, at the same time she's the senpai and kouhai, one of the highest and the Lowest vocal, if that doesn't scream powerhouse idk what is
@kayschut9327
@kayschut9327 Жыл бұрын
@@ifdy1361 Agreed.If she wasn't making content online she could 100% have a tv variety show of her own. One needs only to look at Legend of Polka to see that she is absolutely insane when it comes to entertainment.
@GamingDreamer
@GamingDreamer Жыл бұрын
Few ideas for tropes videos * Gender Swap Vtubers : girls who use male avatars, and guys who use female avatars. * cozy Vtubers (like ina) also art streamer Vtuber. * the Villainess (AmaLee) *drama Vtubers (FalsID, Khyo, and... 🤔) * non Vtuber channels that react to Vtubers clips (Nagzz21, Koefficient....
@DrLigma1010
@DrLigma1010 Жыл бұрын
Ohh, I like the first, the villainess and the last one to be in a vid :3
@MrMilchaq
@MrMilchaq Жыл бұрын
* VTubers Theorist/Historian (Depressed Nousagi)
@purebaldness
@purebaldness Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree with the villain type. Doesn't even have to be all out villain. I see Magni Dezmond as a villain. Disagree with the vtuber drama bait channels. The less attention they get, the better.
@HudaefCares
@HudaefCares Жыл бұрын
​@@purebaldness​Dramabait is someone like HeroHei or Rev Says Desu. FalseEyeD and Khyo are legit to me. Well, Khyo is more like tabloids, he's 50/50 lol. He's the reason I found out Vesper and Magni are "stopping activities for a while", whatever that means.
@purebaldness
@purebaldness Жыл бұрын
@@HudaefCares fair enough. I tar them all with the same brush because they seem to use clickbait titles and thumbnails, which make them indistinguishable to me. Although after a quick glance it seems that khyo doesn't, so fair play. Yeah, Cover giving absolutely zero information is a pisser. Just got to hope for the best I guess.
@seiyoutscreator104
@seiyoutscreator104 Жыл бұрын
Luca Kaneshiro can also be considered a ppwerhouse in terms of singing. He has an excellent range from the covers he produces.
@oreore949
@oreore949 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the Gen 5 girls as you ask about a lack of powerhouse is a club to the skull disguised as a gentle touch. Ow.
@syaasy4416
@syaasy4416 Жыл бұрын
hell yeas was waiting for that suisei worship, 10/10
@Artista_Frustrado
@Artista_Frustrado Жыл бұрын
before Kaela debuted, i would have added Kiara to the list as well, that chimkkin can STREAM on par with Korone & Pekora
@Primalmoon
@Primalmoon Жыл бұрын
11:07 I know you were showing Suisei for a while before actually name dropping her, but I was expecting it to be a long con and for you to say Kiryu Coco :p
@sparxskywriter2589
@sparxskywriter2589 Жыл бұрын
​@@A_GWAKwork_Orange Unconventional was Coco's whole shtick and helped her be her gen's powerhouse from the start.
@Ms666slayer
@Ms666slayer Жыл бұрын
Well it was Coco in the past but right now the powehouse of Gen4 is Towa, and also Watame.
@Y0KAl
@Y0KAl Жыл бұрын
I personally think ike is the main singer of luxiem. He's by far the one with the most technical knowledge on singing and music theory. A lot of livers go to him for advice. He's even done the mixing for some of the other niji livers covers. Shu is a great singer, but I don't think he has had any formal training and has yet to release a cover. Ike has an original song as well as several covers out.
@galaxycrystal2503
@galaxycrystal2503 Жыл бұрын
I can agree that Polka is the content powerhouse, but my god she's the most underrated powerhouse out all of them with the amount of effort she push.
@liyuscool321
@liyuscool321 Жыл бұрын
OMG....when you put it that way, does suisei basically Johnny sins if he was a Vtuber
@DrLigma1010
@DrLigma1010 Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this series
@yoxhi5044
@yoxhi5044 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos and great descriptions as always.
@horst_gott
@horst_gott Жыл бұрын
Good job, and with the BGM switches too!
@aquarake
@aquarake Жыл бұрын
Kaela POSTING 3 STREAMS A DAY LESGOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
@advasity339
@advasity339 Жыл бұрын
i did not think there would be a drop today...man was I surprised.
@TheCalvdog
@TheCalvdog Жыл бұрын
VTuber Tropes: The Guy who Tries to Monetize VTubers' IRL Names and Faces
@maverickhero5834
@maverickhero5834 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The last part of it felt like a Mic Drop!
@SilverMystes1
@SilverMystes1 Жыл бұрын
Speaking of powerhouse, have you guys seen Bae’s performance in the EN fes? It was jaw-dropping! I hope she works more towards her music endeavors.
@coltsm
@coltsm Жыл бұрын
the cameraman did us dirty, I hope they fix it for the blu-ray so we can properly enjoy Bay's talent.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass Жыл бұрын
She did just release an EP. She does also plan on being able to do a solo live.
@mzou89
@mzou89 Жыл бұрын
Bae’s definitely the powerhouse of council. Her voice and stage presence is a couple tiers above her gen mates (not including IRys btw), and it seems she’s more driven with regards to her career as an idol.
@SelecaoOfMidas
@SelecaoOfMidas 11 ай бұрын
​@@coltsmThey did, go peep it.
@Tak0dachi
@Tak0dachi Жыл бұрын
6:29 "and Risu literally silences the entire crowd with her angelic voice" lmao 😂 silences the entire crowd
@Louis_2568
@Louis_2568 11 ай бұрын
Who is the powerhouse of Lazulight? Cos I to me they each stand out in their own way, my only idea would have been maybe when Finana’s Tsunami blew up but I’m not really sure
@KeebeThePlush
@KeebeThePlush Жыл бұрын
I don’t think vtubers get enough credit for being able to stand this tall with acting, performance, and character while being confident
@mzou89
@mzou89 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes all that needs to done is to see the audience reactions. For Holo’s 3rd fes, no body was allowed to cheer due to COVID, but when Suisei finally made her appearance there were several people who couldn’t hold themselves back. And when she performed Ghost after she had already performed Stellar Stellar (everyone else only performed one of their og song), there were more uncontrollable cheering while people online went nuts. Same for 4th fes, where the loudest cheers was when Sui made a surprise appearance with Shiraken on day 1. These kind of anticipatory buzz is grown organically, for performers who’s wowed the audience over and over.
@plagesama
@plagesama Жыл бұрын
I very much enjoy this series. Though I always do find it funny how well the five man band trope applies to myth and how....less well it applies to Council (or CouncilRyS depending on who you feel like including in the group for the purpose of categorizing). ((TLDR for the rest of this post - I think Bae somehow wound up being both Leader and Powerhouse in Council/CouncilRyS. Also an aside about Kaela's sleep at the bottom.)) Back on the Leader video, I argued that I feel Bae is the Leader of Council. Which I still believe to be true (though I will admit she has a less strong leadership role than Ame does). As for Powerhouse....well in Council or CouncilRyS I feel like....this kind of just also winds up being Bae? (Less neatly working out the roles for five man band like Myth but...then again, fitting for a group where someone literally represents chaos I guess.) -She's either the best or second best singer of Council (some would argue Mumei is, I would disagree but *shrug*), but either way she by far puts out the most songs. (If we include IRyS I'm less sure on the technical skill comparison here. IRyS has put out more songs, but not at quite the consistent pace that Bae does (though I have no idea if that's a factor either of them have any control over). And Bae notably experiments with more styles and challenges herself intentionally.) (This is probably the category here where there's most room for argument, since I know I have a bias and when multiple people are very good at a thing, opinions get pretty subjective unless you're an actual expert on the subject. Which I sure as heck am not.) -She's probably the best dancer in all of EN*. I clearly remember how she was one of the surprise show stealers in 4th Fest. Heck they put her solo performance up first for Connect the World and again, best performance of the show as far as dancing goes. She also makes her own choreography. (*The only other person who can compare is Kiara. And maaaaaaaan do I want them to make a duet original song just to see them dance on stage together some day!) -Content wise.... well she certainly is just the most consistent at making content. Not only has she had the good fortune to not have to take long breaks the way most of the others in EN have (I remember one week or maybe a bit longer last year where we were basically down to something like two or three active members and Bae was one of them), but she also just streams literally (or at least as close as she can) every day every February. (As for her creativity and breadth of content, well still the best in her whole gen, but those are some of the traits I feel her make her Leader so I guess it'd be double-dipping to use them to argue for this role too. *shrug* Though you did bring up that kind of thing to consider for Powerhouse so.... *shrug again*) And just in general, if you were going to look at someone in Council (or CouncilRyS) and say "find the absolute unit here", I feel like it'd be pretty obvious the first person you'd look at would be Bae. Also, an aside about Kaela. She actually does sleep. Just not in the regular one long stretch at a time most people do. Admittedly I think she also only sleeps like 4-6 hours max a day still. But that's part of what makes it look like she doesn't sleep at all. (I mean that and the fact that her stream lengths are so long it seems like she literally doesn't do anything aside from streaming and doing literal life necessary tasks. Which like.... may be an accurate assessment? *shrug*) Girl's ability to function without sleep is wild. She recently mentioned on stream when talking to Calli that she slept about 4 hours a week in college sometimes. Though she also admitted she can't function that way anymore. (Just friggin imagine what *that* nonsense would look like! It'd be impossible for even people who watch just her alone to keep up with the vods, lol.)
@shadowblade5656
@shadowblade5656 Жыл бұрын
I would 100% agree, Bae is both the Powerhouse and Leader of Council. And it's fine for one person to take multiple role tropes like that too.
@lionelk.y7233
@lionelk.y7233 Жыл бұрын
​@@shadowblade5656Bae is a performance powerhouse And I feel like Kronii is a content powerhouse
@Knightwalker727
@Knightwalker727 Жыл бұрын
The Calli dance got me. I had to pause the vid a bit to laugh.
@kabob21
@kabob21 Жыл бұрын
I have a lot of respect for Polka, she’s definitely a better variety streamer than the rest of her gen but I think Shishiro Botan is quietly the powerhouse of Gen 5. She’s not only the most subbed and most watched but she’s also grown her singing and dancing tenfold since debut. She’s a gamer that made herself into a multitalented idol. She has a varied international audience, easily collabs with just about anyone and is one of the best gaming coaches and support for fellow Holomems.
@crazy961234
@crazy961234 Жыл бұрын
Gen 0: Suisei Gen 1: Matsuri Gen 2: Subaru Gamers: Korone Gen 3: Pekora Gen 4: Towa Gen 5: Polka Gen 6: Koyori EN 1: Calli EN 2: IRyS ID 1: Moona ID 2: Ollie ID 3: Kaela Feel free to correct me.
@plagesama
@plagesama Жыл бұрын
I'd sub out IRyS for Bae for EN2 (made a giant post about it in fact), but otherwise looks on point to me. Edit: Actually maybe Marine for Gen 3? Or that Gen might just have two. *shrug*
@ifdy1361
@ifdy1361 Жыл бұрын
Gen 3 : marine Gen 6 : la+
@crazy961234
@crazy961234 Жыл бұрын
@@ifdy1361 Kinda have to disagree with Marine. I think Pekora suits better. She is basically the face of Gen 3 and most watched female streamer in 2022. I would say Marine is more to Gen 3's leader.
@mzou89
@mzou89 Жыл бұрын
FBK for gen1, Watame for gen4
@dominic4981
@dominic4981 11 ай бұрын
Gen 3 and 4 are a coinflips between Marine and Pekora , Towa and Watame, everything else is pretty much correct
@StickmanLLC1
@StickmanLLC1 Жыл бұрын
epic video sir!
@Roisome
@Roisome Жыл бұрын
So how the trend goes as I’m seeing is Powerhouse: works on dedicated content like song albums Others: chill and stream
@gori272
@gori272 5 ай бұрын
i FULLY agree with ur opinions on Hoshimachi Suisei but when you mentioned that she's good at tech stuffs I can't help but be reminded of that time when Miko roasted her for buying a stream deck and not knowing how to use it and yet still put it on her desk and show it off to Miko with full smug
@rinoakirova1548
@rinoakirova1548 Жыл бұрын
From your explanation, I would say Amelia is also a creative powerhouse, though I won't argue that Calli outshines her Myth peers in the sheer amount of stuff she does. Glad you mentioned Roca too. I wasn't particularly interested in her before ENdless debut, but boy was I floored the very second she started singing.
@emircanozad914
@emircanozad914 Жыл бұрын
Where is Roca from?
@randombaseddude9726
@randombaseddude9726 Жыл бұрын
@@emircanozad914 She is from a company called IDOL-EN same as Rin Penrose.
@Ms666slayer
@Ms666slayer Жыл бұрын
@@emircanozad914 Idol EN and pretty much won everyone over in the first 10 minutes of her stream.
@Sonicsion
@Sonicsion Ай бұрын
Watson is the shadow powerhouse; rarely seen, but always felt
@Saber2345Aspirations
@Saber2345Aspirations Жыл бұрын
Good shit Nousagi.
@fire12376
@fire12376 Жыл бұрын
Good to know that when it comes to suisei, nousagi’s oral skills are still top notch
@kikakuli
@kikakuli Жыл бұрын
kaela was literally talking about how she feels sick if she sleeps for more than like an hour while she was in vc on calli’s getting over it stream… that girl doesn’t sleep for days
@Kikker861
@Kikker861 Жыл бұрын
polka 10/10. her visit to an old school is hilarious, and her "pol!" shakes the world.
@azurerider812
@azurerider812 Жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate the Calli section. Just found Myth on a Hail Mary search, saw her song, and there I feel. All in late 2020.
@CantShootMe
@CantShootMe Жыл бұрын
The part where you mentioned that the powerhouse is known for what they *do*, not who they are, personality-wise, has been something I've thought about recently. This applies for regular youtubers & streamers as well. MrBeast is a powerhouse in terms of content production, but personality-wise, I don't think he's quite as interesting. I'd say the same for Ludwig, who is mostly known for always doing crazy challenges, doing subathons and organizing fun events. In a Dr. K stream, he even mentioned how he's slighty bothered that his fans only know him for the content he does, not for the person he is. I think modern content creation has shifted more towards making a quality product rather than making personal content, as it was back in early KZbin. With so much quality, high-production content on the web, it's impressive how a variety streamer can still thrive and be immensely successful in this day and age.
@dachosenone207
@dachosenone207 Жыл бұрын
Absolute Unit. Okay I understand
@ahdandimas6577
@ahdandimas6577 Жыл бұрын
while Sora, A-chan, and Yagoo built Hololive from scratch, Suisei is building her OWN brand from a scratch by herself, .. i understand if someone wants to brag about her
@35PHaaton
@35PHaaton Жыл бұрын
Mostly everyone is, most notably Watame who has been doing it since day 1. Suisei just got the better opportunities, because her voice is better and she can talk better than watame, but Watame's grind to get those opportunities is no joke.
@leandroiuki4337
@leandroiuki4337 Жыл бұрын
​@@35PHaatonThe entire Gen 4 is the Power generation, also know as HoloForce.
@camedark_vods
@camedark_vods Жыл бұрын
I wonder if we will have the underdog vtuber episode
@leoaltivez7161
@leoaltivez7161 Жыл бұрын
This is the vtuber trope that I like the most
@PLee-vu6mp
@PLee-vu6mp 10 ай бұрын
well. i am a bit of a stargazer myself... kudos!
@DixieChix
@DixieChix Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised Chloe wasn't in here either tbh, I mean, she might not be on the same level as Calli or Suisei in terms of sheer talent, but she can pretty much sing and compose by herself, and pretty damn well too lol; her singing range especially is absolutely fucked up IMO, where she manages to sing in both high and low registers without breaking a sweat, and change seamlessly between each register too, which requires a pretty insane amount of talent and vocal prowess to pull that off and certainly makes her stand out among her peers, at least in my opinion anyway :P
@kabob21
@kabob21 Жыл бұрын
She’s a bit overshadowed (as is the rest of HoloX except maybe Lui) by the always streaming Koyori. The pink coyote is one of the top-10 most watched female streamers on the planet.
@busetgadapet
@busetgadapet Жыл бұрын
Holox all powerhouse I think, the most successful gen with all member still intact and has their own persona,
@NatsumiKuroki269
@NatsumiKuroki269 11 ай бұрын
@@busetgadapet gen 2 is still exist with full member tho
@NightmareZV
@NightmareZV Жыл бұрын
I knew Suisei should've been mentioned at any point and no better way than to end the video with a bang. Her participation in The First Take and shutting speculations, her part in StartEnd where she literally started playing Apex Legends and still performed great for her first tournament, her solo concert; there are just so many things she's proved to be just extraordinary. And I do agree, even if it is a constant meme for some to just despise Calli, she's multitalented and still major focus on big projects that involve Hololive as a whole (which I believe it also should help the fact that she lives in Japan).
@SergioLeonardoCornejo
@SergioLeonardoCornejo Жыл бұрын
How come the examples used also look physically like a powerhouse compared to the rest?
@adamquek1095
@adamquek1095 Жыл бұрын
Polka is a legit powerhouse before Hololive.
@andiezacky
@andiezacky Жыл бұрын
nah dude. upd8 was a monster at that time. even if you exclude ai-chan, there's still many big names around like patra, haneru, meika, hal, etc. nobuhime was big, but you can't call her a powerhouse with that crazy lineup
@35PHaaton
@35PHaaton Жыл бұрын
​@@andiezackyPolka was a powerhouse, because she was the superchat queen back in the day.
@leandroiuki4337
@leandroiuki4337 Жыл бұрын
​@@andiezackyNobuhime is clearly the only shitposter between them. Editing and making creative videos, it is still rare to find this persona on the industry.
@crudlucasconsigliere4084
@crudlucasconsigliere4084 10 ай бұрын
I really think Astel is ABSOLUTELY a powerhouse. Loud? Audacious? An absolute unit?? Insanely powerhouse? Yes.
@the_joxter
@the_joxter Жыл бұрын
this is so hakka🔅♡
@seneca983
@seneca983 Жыл бұрын
I think Juniper Actias would probably count as a powerhouse, at least if she were in a group instead of being a lone vtuber. If I've understood correctly, she has e.g. made her own model and I dare say it's a higher quality than e.g. Suisei's original model which she made herself (though Suisei making her own model initially is still impressive).
@Sonicsion
@Sonicsion Ай бұрын
Made her own model? Which one!? That girl had damn addiction to creating the most detailed and innovative models out there to my knowledge 😅
@seneca983
@seneca983 Ай бұрын
@@Sonicsion I was thinking of her first model.
@calamitycubed
@calamitycubed Жыл бұрын
letsgoooooooo
@emilkr
@emilkr Жыл бұрын
Our diamond in the rough ❤❤❤❤
@pannacotta9493
@pannacotta9493 Жыл бұрын
If Suisei is the apex powerhouse in performative side, I believe Pekora is also a powerhouse on content side... The sheer amount of watch hours she has is unbelievable, and while Suisei is matched with mainstream singers as her standard, Pekora also is on a different level being constantly high on watch time, beating regular female streamers and maybe in the level of the high perfomer in streaming as a whole. This came from a Hoshiyomi who starts watching Suisei since March 2020
@SilverMystes1
@SilverMystes1 Жыл бұрын
I agree, but what makes Suisei special is that she’s starting to become mainstream in the entertainment industry. Her reach is starting to stretch outside vtubing.
@pannacotta9493
@pannacotta9493 Жыл бұрын
Well yes, I agree to that, mentioning Pekora does not diminish the achievement that Suisei carved forever in internet. I'm just saying watch time is an important aspect for vtuber as a content creator, and should be taken into the account for the powerhouse. When the list of most watched female streamer came out and pekora is up there with the highest performers of female streamers, people took notice of that. I believe that is an achievement, right?
@SilverMystes1
@SilverMystes1 Жыл бұрын
@@pannacotta9493 in terms of streaming success yes Pekora is really the one cant deny that. Her grind is amazing as well.
@lolcall5295
@lolcall5295 Жыл бұрын
​​@@pannacotta9493it is indeed an achievement but suisei is just on another level because unlike pekora, suisei is reaching out to outside of anime and vtuber niche. In a not so distant future, she could even quit hololive or even this whole vtuber thing, be an actual singer and still did great because she's already at the level of playing with irl artist.
@gokbay3057
@gokbay3057 Жыл бұрын
Pekora is the Queen of Streaming. But I think Suisei can certainly claim the title of Queen of Vtubing.
@gadman85
@gadman85 11 ай бұрын
Suisei essentially went from being called a "Jack of all Trades" to a Master of all Trades.
@MArfin-sm6lu
@MArfin-sm6lu Жыл бұрын
It's like an OSD video
@JAMllostthegame
@JAMllostthegame Жыл бұрын
The Mitochondria is my favorite member of the Cell VTuber group
@hijiriyukari
@hijiriyukari Жыл бұрын
Auto CC in 11:14 says you chant about self-ooofing lol
@Xanthopathy
@Xanthopathy Жыл бұрын
ROCA MENTIONED LET'S FUCKING GO
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys
@NinaMarieNPianoKeys Жыл бұрын
As someone who got into watching Ren Zotto a few months after he debuted, I feel like his insutrmental performance streams stands out the most to prove that he's a powerhouse. He's a hardworking Alien man too. The problem is that he's very busy and he's also very extroverted as hell. I have no problem with extroveted people, it's just you gotta get used to it.
@JedaXXXx
@JedaXXXx Жыл бұрын
Waiting for a Mitochondria vtuber.
@GamingDreamer
@GamingDreamer Жыл бұрын
11:05 SIMP but true
@xxx-lq7ho
@xxx-lq7ho Жыл бұрын
keala :play every game possible in like 24hr live streaming and always lucky in every game 2.)streams every day 3)make funny event like CKia 4)loves by all her sempai pekora and watame because mine giving free items in minecraft 5)she very good at games like mc and plasmaphobia
@schafman-jq6ox
@schafman-jq6ox Жыл бұрын
The grim Reaper is the powerhouse of the myth
@EliAs-ub6yf
@EliAs-ub6yf Жыл бұрын
Mitochondria reference
@_elifilen
@_elifilen Жыл бұрын
I see dad I click
@mrgopnik5964
@mrgopnik5964 Жыл бұрын
You should really change your channel name to “Least thirsty Hoshiyomi”
@Fanimati0n
@Fanimati0n Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that kobo can also play multiple instruments
@deepratama
@deepratama Жыл бұрын
kaela.. Agree~!!! also kobo looks very respectful or calm to kaela
@Sillimant_
@Sillimant_ 10 ай бұрын
I'm shocked Korone wasn't mentioned here
@OniGanon
@OniGanon Жыл бұрын
Seems to be 'Diva' would be a better descriptor for this archetype, encapsulating both the performance aspect and the ambitious, driven attitude.
@xenomorfo6145
@xenomorfo6145 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the tropic of chaotic or vtuver whit discord personality is a thing
@SeDeVal
@SeDeVal Жыл бұрын
So you said that right now the only apex powerhouse is Suisei. What about before? Could Kizuna Ai be considered as one?
@dreelkoodus
@dreelkoodus Жыл бұрын
I believe she was. Kizuna was the one who coined the term VTuber, after all. While not as notorious now as she was when she first started out, she did still do a lot to pioneer and promote the VTuber space, like what Suisei is doing now.
@aheumedivirtoXD
@aheumedivirtoXD Жыл бұрын
3:08 the performative powerhouse in Luxiem is Shu... ...a wild metal scream appears, asking: YoU SuUuURe? (joking, Ike would go out of his way to make Shu shine brighter lol)
@j.madelozo8222
@j.madelozo8222 Жыл бұрын
Next Trope: "The Comedians" well, I know most of them are comedians but there are those who will always be funni in everything they do, like Miko.
@RobotDeathMonkey
@RobotDeathMonkey Жыл бұрын
Suisei: There can be ...... only one
@DrLigma1010
@DrLigma1010 Жыл бұрын
1:54 *wink wink*
@VLeo-sonofliberty
@VLeo-sonofliberty Жыл бұрын
I love suisei
@theTrueLinkC
@theTrueLinkC Жыл бұрын
Kaela my powerhouse beloved
@thecoolmanstation2.046
@thecoolmanstation2.046 11 ай бұрын
Personally I think both the storytime animation community the Brony community and the movie review community of the best examples of the powerhouse which is what I would like to call them the og Powerhouses
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