Derek seems like such a chill dude. He works out at a gym nearby my place, but even there there’s quite a few dudes who claim natural and are comically huge. I always think it’s funny how in spite of how big of a name he’s developed and how much more educated he’s making the community there’s still tons of fake naturals even in the real world literally in the gym he trains at lol
@twowiseguys6669 ай бұрын
Dudes want to impress everyone at their local gym and pretend to be natural lol. Just an ego thing
@jmass42079 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666I mean why admit you took a shortcut when you don’t have to (morality aside of course).
@glenoh889 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666it also could be that they didn’t get the stuff legally…
@twowiseguys6669 ай бұрын
@glenoh88 maybe but most the time nobody cares about that. Same dudes will be talking about taking recreational drugs without an issue lol
@glenoh889 ай бұрын
@@twowiseguys666 until they get arrested or followed because the feds want to get to the dealers supplier, that’s how the feds get informants.
@JakeSemeniuk9 ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for the full podcast
@mattpen79669 ай бұрын
zack nailed it when he says some people cant own up to their mistakes
@nordics8348 ай бұрын
zack is a grifter and jewish, double whammy
@KRH27259 ай бұрын
The cream was epitestosterone cream, because it was designed to evade the Test:Epitest ratio test that is/was used as a flag for doing the CIR test to see if the testosterone in your body is synthetic.
@Dementia.Pugilistica9 ай бұрын
so you'd take it with regular testosterone or on it's own? and you'd still pop for high test though if you were taking it at levels above reference range, right?
@kylerBD9 ай бұрын
@@Dementia.Pugilistica People dont pop for high test unless its absolute insane levels, jon jones had female levels of testosterone in his fight with DC.
@matta19669 ай бұрын
This test has no value since the end of 80's. It's just very smal addon. Even in the NRD they knew how to bypass this test.
@jonosterman28788 ай бұрын
they prob also used it to provide a test base, like most gear users do.
@benmcreynolds85819 ай бұрын
Derek is more educated and knowledgeable than some endocrinologists I've had specialist appointments with. This dude deserves a Doctorates degree
@apollow_g10259 ай бұрын
that's not even a compliment by endocrinologists own standards. they really know very little as far as healthy people at all. the majority only deal with obese and overweight patients almost exclusively. if you're an athlete, good luck finding and endo that has treated athletes. they don't exist. they all pretty much deal with pcos from bitches being obese and trt for me from men being obese.
@robertworton23949 ай бұрын
My endocrinologist is a 50 year old lady that doesn’t know half of what Derek does
@benmcreynolds85819 ай бұрын
@@robertworton2394 i totally understand. My endocrinologist is a younger dude and not to dog on these specialist doctors.. but Derek deserves to get a chance of proving he is capable of doing their job. At least at the diagnostics, pharmacology & lab testing level.
@user-wb7nv9ht1g8 ай бұрын
We don't actually know that, its an assumption. That product he was pushing was a scam and I'd trust an endocrinologist over him
@josue248 ай бұрын
Yeah. Fuq the person actually educated in the field. Listen to the drug pedaler. 😂🤦🏻♂️
@damionjackson17439 ай бұрын
As much as I would love to live in a sports world where everyone is competing only off their god given potential. With modern medicine we well never have a truly leveled playing field which makes the argument all sports should just be untested credible.
@DCJayhawk579 ай бұрын
Except that a lot of pro athletes are natural, they're just gifted genetically. Derek doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He's a gear head with average genetics who never put in the work as a natural before hopping on, and so he is somehow an authority on high-level athletes? Please. He's made his career making up fictional cycles for people based on what they look like. Just because some take PEDs doesn't mean that all pro athletes are on them, but that's a common sentiment I see from the gymcel crowd.
@jjboy1579 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57and your idea of what “gifted” genetics are from an athletic standpoint are likely sourced from an ephemeral fairytale athlete that doesn’t actually exist. Steroid level results come from steroids, point blank, and “good” genes from a survivability standpoint won’t make you look or perform at the competitive level wherein everyone else is also taking steroids. He actually has scientific data backing what he says, and everything he says has credence in regards to these testing policies. You have an inability to accept that your favourite athlete you’re almost certainly feeling personally attacked on behalf of might not tell the truth sometimes and nothing else. What seems more likely here, athletes believing in themselves hard enough their bodies start naturally producing trenbolone or that people in sports largely associated with grandiose egos might *gasp* lie. Take your time
@JHMninja899 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57If you dig deeper, you'll find that Derek is hired by certain athletes to pass drug tests. Who's to say that many other people don't hire drug coaches.
@greuju9 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57 The thing is there are a lot of natural athletes that don't use much. And there's even more natural athletes, that only use when injured. This means that essentially most successful athletes have used PEDs. Generally most people watch team sports, and all team sports are roided up.
@shaqitup9 ай бұрын
@@DCJayhawk57 some are, but then they see other gifted athletes or get injured, or surpass their abilities due to substances they take.
@shaqitup9 ай бұрын
Just came to comment on how fly Derek’s jacket is.
@ebinn63819 ай бұрын
Girl i know started using the pill at 14 and it affected her body and mental health so much without her even knowing until I pointed it out.
@SnifferSock9 ай бұрын
Probably be another 10-15 before people will actually admit birth control is fvcked up. Being on it at 14 is wild. I know some take it for cramps and acne? I think, but her parents are negligent at best.
@Radiation5808 ай бұрын
Lol
@Radiation5808 ай бұрын
Steroids cause more harmful to women than men
@Bawks_FEET8 ай бұрын
Fucks up mate selection
@BluegillGreg9 ай бұрын
I learned something new: H2O and NaCl are used by the body only once they're "methylated." Of course.
@lukehatcher989 ай бұрын
Telly and MPMD collabs are my favorite
@davidcoleman7309 ай бұрын
Is there a video of the whole podcast?
@isaacm65609 ай бұрын
Yeah I'm tired of watching short clips
@BluegillGreg9 ай бұрын
My whey protein has 2 ingredients: whey protein isolate and lecithin. It comes in a 10 pound bag and is very low cost because the price doesn't have to cover unneeded ingredients, unneeded packaging, and unneeded advertising.
@CocorumbaWins9 ай бұрын
Where is that from? If you don’t mind me asking
@Bawks_FEET8 ай бұрын
Where do I buy it?
@turritopsisrockolaАй бұрын
Whey protein is so expensive here in Latin America 😢
@TheSurgeonsRoadie9 ай бұрын
Victor Conte is very similar to Gary. They did a great job portraying him in Untold. Patrick Arnold wasn’t able to be interviewed for the doc, unfortunately. I’ve known Patrick for 15 years. He’s a dear friend of mine.
@jasegbaby73328 ай бұрын
Love Dereks new lipstick.
@statictech79 ай бұрын
You can interview the guy who created THG. His name is Patrick Arnold. I think he lives in Texas.
@PressureEd9 ай бұрын
Man what camera do you use this video quality is amazing
@kane65299 ай бұрын
Iphone 12 Brugh
@PressureEd9 ай бұрын
@@kane6529 damn, impressive.
@BluegillGreg9 ай бұрын
A good thing to do with raw milk is to pasteurize it at home. It takes about 25 minutes at 180 degrees F. It tastes better than over-heated homogenized milk, and is safer than unpasteurized milk.
@travispagent9379 ай бұрын
Pasteurisation would take about 7 seconds @ 180f
@stneloxa15759 ай бұрын
MPMD 3hr video on gary brecka finna be crazy
@frankb57289 ай бұрын
I thought what Gary was saying was sort of interesting but didn't watch too much of it. Then I caught a clip of him talking about kids and the typical american diet and how they should try to get off of it. He gave the example of kids eating pop tarts for breakfast, which nobody would agree is healthy. The issue is that he claimed it was the fortified grains in the pop tarts that were the cause. It's easy to dismiss the guy when you start digging a little deeper into his associations as well.
@realalbertan9 ай бұрын
One of the cornerstones of designer steroids has to be a designer epitestosterone to bring the T:E ratio under 4:1
@josephbloxham39929 ай бұрын
Question for Derek - don't WADA testing protocols have to be peer reviewed? If so, anybody with an HPLC-MS can do the tests on their own.
@greuju9 ай бұрын
Unless you're a genius that can make them, the machines are hyper specific and extremely expensive. And no that's really just one part of it. You also need to understand the entire science, and how all the drugs and your hormones etc work with each other.
@ciarantaylor-kitching31429 ай бұрын
I mean not everybody has a HPLC lying around 😂also you’d have to have a fragment library for every single PED you’d test for to have any kind of conclusive data
@josephbloxham39929 ай бұрын
@@ciarantaylor-kitching3142 sure, but a state sponsored athlete certainly will. And since I think wada must use published methods, you just do all the tests and see if you pass.
@greuju9 ай бұрын
@@ciarantaylor-kitching3142 yeah good point. All you need is the precise equipment, and the exact understanding for each molecule you're looking for. 🤣 Yeah sounds pretty easy to me.
@ptccombatfitness67269 ай бұрын
Peer reviewed is the biggest BS ever. Many many many peer reviewed studies have been shown to be 100% wrong
@morganthem7 ай бұрын
Healthy conversation
@drip3699 ай бұрын
Are you going to be bringing back the podcast
@zacktelander9 ай бұрын
No I’m just bringing back the format for when I can get guests. All “podcast” format videos will go on this channel.
@drip3699 ай бұрын
@@zacktelanderoh ok. Of course I enjoy the music the lifting and the commentary, but I also enjoyed the longer form content
@zacktelander9 ай бұрын
I think LC lately has taken place of the podcast.
@ryantrotter95619 ай бұрын
great work
@NicholasRachuna8 ай бұрын
Patrick Arnold a.k.a "the clear chemist" is the guy who made "The Clear" he used to write a column in Muscular Development
@RoidfreeSenior9 ай бұрын
When I used test years ago, we assumed we would "peak" strength wise 2-3 weeks after getting off
@vanessaford8630Ай бұрын
Untold: Hall Of Shame is the name of the Balco Lab documentary with Victor Conte
@iDanDelf9 ай бұрын
IMO he's the "liver king" of longevity! Fake A F ... (Gary)
@jorob8139 ай бұрын
The dude who sells a hydration wand is a great source of information. Dufuq?!
@barrick48079 ай бұрын
So correct me if I’m wrong but from what I’ve read majority of T4 to T3 is in the liver. But up to 20% can be converted in the intestine?
@Ghoster3118 ай бұрын
How long would an athlete need to be off of steroids for them to be assured of not popping on a test?
@fruchtlack9 ай бұрын
Is the full podcast released yet??
@paulodanteneto16459 ай бұрын
06:25 I think that the abuse - even with a soft Voice and tone - of absolutes can be a sign of lack of knowledge, at least lack of a general, complex knowledge. having doubts can be a sign that you understand the complexity of Matters.
@isaacm65609 ай бұрын
Where's the full podcast?
@MegaLegz9 ай бұрын
If you came for the title see the last 2 minutes.
@jukasipo8 ай бұрын
Clickbait title, last time I fall for it.
@MrCole03099 ай бұрын
does anyone know where Derek got that flannel jacket? I want one.
@juanesteban89389 ай бұрын
I gave my best effort to find it, and I'm usually good at finding stuff. Curious to see if someone can answer this.
@DannyHamar8 ай бұрын
He sells every clothing he wears to shows at his ebay, that way you can copy his whole look. Im not sure about socks and lingerie tho, but the flannel you will find under "Shirts, non-formal"
@realestatejunkie04149 ай бұрын
This methylation thing doesn’t make sense to me. I have a degree in biochemistry and the all the new peptide therapies make sense to me. But the methylation stuff and alkaline beds/mats don’t make any sense to me.
@clayc59298 ай бұрын
What should I put into pubmed to learn about these new peptide therapies
@mikethenike93408 ай бұрын
Watching this for study purposes, definitely not the reason why he’s making it👍
@samalexander52369 ай бұрын
“Natural Flavours” - five simple ingredients. Doesn’t jive.
@chrismurray53439 ай бұрын
Did someone say raw milk 🥛 😂
@mwangikimani39709 ай бұрын
Dunning Kruger effect, people with little to moderate knowledge on a subject are most dangerously self assured.
@2e8269 ай бұрын
Yeah this was a cool video and all but what brand of jacket is derek wearing lmao?
@blakehoule66988 ай бұрын
YOUNGLA
@2e8268 ай бұрын
@@blakehoule6698 519 woven flannel jacket in off-white/blue you smart as hell homie
@r1a1p1AllenPogue8 ай бұрын
Haha as soon as I heard that statement from Gary I started laughing! It's funny but of course it's also harmful.
@seanthegod45859 ай бұрын
Stop being so afraid, and call out the people who are just, wrong. 🙄
@ChunkyLover694209 ай бұрын
Why risk raw milk? really doesnt seem worth it
@drip3699 ай бұрын
Maybe nowadays since people don't have a tolerance for it but for thousands of years and never hurt anybody because it actually helped the immune system while providing fat carbohydrates and protein in one food source. Raw milk is really good for you yet people would have to build up a tolerance if they've had watered down homogenized milk.
@Eustres9 ай бұрын
I usually think it is for a psychological thing. we know from literature it has no more benefits than pasteurized milk and it increases risks. But, if the individual enjoys it more this way and maybe grew in a location where culturally/socially this was accepted or looked in a positive light it will reinforce those feelings.
@zacktelander9 ай бұрын
The Texas Department of State Health Services requires licensed Raw for Retail dairies to have their milk sampled on a quarterly basis for pathogenic bacteria and for the presence of antibiotics in the milk. If either of these are found present in milk intended for sale as Grade "A" Retail Raw, the dairyman's product will be immediately detained and not available for public sale. I’ve done extensive research on this subject in the state of Texas and I researched my provider as well. There is minimal risk if any at all.
@winstonpeart38269 ай бұрын
It's delicious
@samwelltayrlor9 ай бұрын
Raw milk tastes like ice cream for me it’s that good. There’s people out there in heavy training that would say milk is better than water. Obviously that’s probably if your going through a hell week. I drink it when I feel a seasonal cold coming on and I feel better.
@Boscoe2649 ай бұрын
Can you buy raw milk from HEB
@drip3699 ай бұрын
I just noticed the ZT shirt design is back below the video. Just ordered one 🎉🎉
@donaldnewell48688 ай бұрын
Raw milk is a terrible idea for a person interested in health.
@scottessery1009 ай бұрын
The Chinese weightlifting 🏋️♀️ team must have 3 rd or 4 th gen designer gear now
@cyumadbrosummit35348 ай бұрын
Yo Balco happened in the 90's bro you are 3 decades behind on doping. "yo did you here about Sergio's cycle 68 years ago?"
@maanhasan15378 ай бұрын
This is why the tested world record in powerlifting (open class with sleeves) is higher than the untested, what a joke.
@andreasgiulio49228 ай бұрын
*passed
@RustyShackleford90009 ай бұрын
6:41 he just explained the origin or organized religion as well without even trying 😂
@orion9k9 ай бұрын
"only 5 ingredients in this whey protein, I never seen this few ingredients before" The whey I buy only has 1 ingredient and thats pure whey protein powder, no additives at all, and they are easy and cheap to produce 🎉
@juanesteban89389 ай бұрын
Which one you buy?
@orion9k9 ай бұрын
@@juanesteban8938 usually Whey Isolate natural taste from Bulk but their prices sometimes way overpriced, then I buy a random regular whey protein natural but if you buy anything not being Isolate or Hydrolized Whey, the quality starts to drop a lot e.g. only 23 grams proteins per 30 grams.
@stephend509 ай бұрын
4.5x half life for all of a drug to be out of the body
@Lightitupp19 ай бұрын
No, different drugs (esters) have different half lives.
@kane65299 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1obviously they have different half lifes hes saying 4.5 of the specific half life until its out if your system completely.
@Lightitupp19 ай бұрын
@@kane6529 He didn't mention any compound.
@leonardotheuseless41889 ай бұрын
@@Lightitupp1 you must be restarted
@Lightitupp19 ай бұрын
@@leonardotheuseless4188 Yes very restarted
@mykelengieza70579 ай бұрын
ALGORITHM
@Dr.l1v3e5sy9 ай бұрын
derek,I am a medical student, i strongly suggest you to open up a pharmacology lecture, i believe that you can do really good job!
@bhuuthesecond8 ай бұрын
In your opinion does Derek’s knowledge compare with that of a medical doctor?
@wolfy90058 ай бұрын
No catheter up the willy to replace urine with clean urine mentioned? disappoint
@michaelholt85909 ай бұрын
Some of these peptides they are using are no joke either. They can do multiple things from fat losez muscle building, and healing.
@Boscoe2649 ай бұрын
Best part about Raw milk is that it doesn't spoil
@danielnetz51739 ай бұрын
Turns to kefir.
@scottessery1009 ай бұрын
@@danielnetz5173all those good bacteria
@noone39929 ай бұрын
@@danielnetz5173 For milk to turn into kefir you need to add kefir yeast.
@TheYyam85ahaz9 ай бұрын
For you guys asking about raw milk and bashing him for it why not do your own research? If it’s not worth it to you then don’t drink it?
@justinjones52818 ай бұрын
0:24 get the stevia out of it. Fuck taste give me the protein lol. Much love.
@valeriybaibossynov26909 ай бұрын
Nandrolone is not used in birth control pills or any form of hormonal contraception intended for preventing pregnancy. Nandrolone is classified as an anabolic steroid and is primarily used for medical purposes such as treating anemia and certain muscle wasting conditions.
@XizzorPvP9 ай бұрын
Norgestrel is a common ingredient in many birthcontrols anything with a nor in front of it is a 19-nor derived steroid aka a nandrolone derivative smartypants
@josephdanner7739 ай бұрын
He said derived from, it is one of the parent compounds. Doesn't say that it has all the same effects - it actually is performance decreasing drug most of the time-or pharmacology, rather that it means you are NOT natural if you are on BC and that it has a slew of negative health effects and externalties that are often over looked. [Progestins. Nandrolone, together with ethisterone (17α-ethynyltestosterone), is also the parent compound of a large group of progestins, the norethisterone (17α-ethynyl-19-nortestosterone) derivatives.] "A wide variety of oral, parenteral, intrauterine systems, and implantable progestins have been used for this purpose.221 A number of mechanisms have been proposed for the beneficial effects of progestins. The most likely mechanism is variable suppression of ovulatory menses. Norethindrone Acetate Norethindrone acetate is a 19-nortestosterone"
@Ghostintheshell35513 ай бұрын
Every one is cheating and juicing period . in every professional sport.
@yeye-ph2qv9 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes more steroid talk…… exactly what we need to hear
@Achilles9 ай бұрын
This dude made such an example out of Derek for talking about Gary Brecka. If I was Derek I wouldn't come back, why talk to someone who always tries to sit on a higher pedestal. Doing it (not making absolute statements) is perfectly fine, but then wasting his time separating yourself by explaining why you do it is absurd and a waste of time.
@michaelgammage45249 ай бұрын
Couldn't one just synthesize Test from an animal cholesterol and epiTest as well then figure out the proper ratio? Figure that this would be the easiest way for any state sponsored doping program.
@greuju9 ай бұрын
Yes all you have to do is synthesize testosterone from any form of cholesterol. So just go and do it and get back to me I could use some. Get me some GatoROIDS.
@varunaggarwal1029 ай бұрын
Indian audiences should see it and get educated from these soo called powerlifters who claim they are natural
@matz4k9 ай бұрын
let's be honest, Gary Brecka is mostly bs and sells overpriced magic to millionaires.
@TheDavveponken8 ай бұрын
on charlatans, same goes for doctors...
@brolaf37928 ай бұрын
didn't derek literally sell Turkesterone lol
@shackelfrdace699 ай бұрын
I’m on zach’s side w staying natty and everything but dude is max coping w these charlatan segments and when he trashes other ppl in general
@zacktelander9 ай бұрын
The proper term is copemaxxing and tbh I’m gonna talk about charlatans for the rest of my channels existence 🤷🏻
@envesful3 ай бұрын
Dude is quite possible the biggest hater on KZbin 😂
@Tomthetrainspotter9 ай бұрын
All athletes are on roids there are sacrificial lambs in every sport
@andrewkielbasowycz19159 ай бұрын
Derek wearing lipstick?
@JustinReal9 ай бұрын
Please for the love of god stop putting this guy on platforms to act like he’s an authority on peds or anything for that matter. He literally became known by saying “well, I think this guy is on this, but I don’t know”. Then got a massive investment to help start a hormone replacement company. He’s not educated enough to be giving advice . You people are taking advice from a guy who is KZbin famous. It’s embarrassing that our resumes now are “I have 1 million followers on KZbin or Instagram “. Holy crap that’s embarrassing. That’s our new measuring stick . People are sheep for the most part so because sheep are following this guy, you will too?
@Lexsoufz8 ай бұрын
@justinreal your comment needs to be pinned up top. Well said bro
@bipolarmomandnowwhat8 ай бұрын
Yes there exists a blood, brain barrier and half lives in drugs 😂
@bsrkoacar84149 ай бұрын
Why does the government care if you buy and sell raw milk? That's ridiculous
@greuju9 ай бұрын
Although I say properly sourced raw milk is completely healthy, the flip side of that I would never drink raw milk I didn't know where it came from. The statistics show you're about 20 times more likely to get sick from raw milk.
@bsrkoacar84149 ай бұрын
@@greuju yeah but if you know a trusted farmer and want to buy it, you should be able to buy it at your own risk. Most People aren't as stupid as the government thinks... And if some idiot gets sick, he probably won't do that again lol.
@HammerShock239 ай бұрын
You know when someone gets ill or dies from (presumably) drinking raw milk, the dairy it comes from will be litigated out of existence. I'd consider an "informed consent" waiver if I was a dairy.
@jerodpeters61679 ай бұрын
Do not drink raw milk
@SnifferSock9 ай бұрын
You sound like someone who thinks flu shots make you healthier.
@jimmylight48669 ай бұрын
@@SnifferSock😂😂
@janjezz9 ай бұрын
Derek telling a human biologist that he's wrong about biochemistry is just asinine..
@98danielray9 ай бұрын
even if he was wrong? tf is your problem. the T4 conversion is not in the gut.
@jimmylight48669 ай бұрын
Derek knows more easily.
@clayc59298 ай бұрын
I mean he gave a specific reason why he disagreed. Personally I dont know if he’s right but it’s okay disagree with a supposed expert if you can articulate why the person is wrong in a potentially verifiable way