The INSANE Bulgarian Doping Plan | @MorePlatesMoreDates

Derek from MPMD and Zack discuss the drug protocols used by the infamous Bulgarian Olympic Weightlifting team and coach; Ivan Abadjiev.
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[@zacktelander]

FULL EPISODE HERE : kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3bYamCuaN-Ml5o

[@Cosmic_Code]

Real good dynamic. Better than Rogan almost... Sharp to the point.

[@ramblr5900]

Did the drug use increased the healing factor?

[@Cosmic_Code]

@@ramblr5900 Sure it does that in general.

[@neganmarie7062]

At llppppllll

[@brettmoore3194]

Aspirate sonyoundont get trenncough... Better yet tren and.deca suck. Proviron,drostonlone with anavar but pelletized

[@mitk01]

In Bulgaria we have a saying: "Our doping team was caught weightlifting"

[@stevenspilly]

Now that's funny

[@mikewalker2068]

Hahaha

[@rosgill6]

🤣

[@BalkansWay]

As Bulgarian, i can confirm.

[@gulfgunner9829]

Funny fucker

[@yosifmetodiev3834]

"Without chemistry there is no physics." Bulgarian proverb

[@acb1511]

No physique in English in this case.

[@BulgarianSwordsman]

​@@acb1511 In Bulgaria the word can mean both things so there is word play that combines the scientific idea that physics and chemistry are interconnected with the notion of doping and physique.

[@Bai_Ivan]

Something like "no pain, no gain", but change pain with dope :D

[@andreykovachev7002]

I (bulgarian)used to know a guy who was olympic lifter during this time - he was around 70kg. And he was lifting aroung 10-40tons a day. and the drugs were making him crazy. He said - i felt like i can tie a knot with the bar... he was a ruin at the age of 45...

[@PermanentHigh]

Lmao tie a knot with the bar? What do you mean by "ruin at 45" ? You mean physically ruined with injuries?

[@dajay2k]

@PermanentHigh everything he said is fairly simple to decipher.

[@ernieb4883]

@@PermanentHigh Yes physically and mentally when you're abusing hormones at those dosages.

[@PermanentHigh]

@@ernieb4883 Damn, sounds like a need to be on

[@p0werl0ve]

sacrifices you make for the gold. question is if this was a conscious decision of the athlete or "brainwashed'' into glory and fame

[@petarmarkov606]

As a bulgarian, I have to say that the nickname of Abadzhiev was "the butcher". He didn't care, he was pedal to the metal, and his lifters were training injured. You have to notice that this was the time of communism, and you have no choice, except to listen to your coach.

[@blackjack6406]

I also listen to my couch, it always calls me.

[@handsomeyoda8789]

Always listen to your couch

[@TheJipino]

My couch never talks to me and I feel left out.

[@DaSpaceJammer]

It’s crazy, a communist government is the only place that would take it to the extreme like this. They’re literally oppressing their athletes to completely unnecessary forced labor and drug use that’s going to kill them.

[@FlarkusChunswen]

@J W in due time, my friend. The couch always calls.

[@EquityCall]

The collab we never knew we needed

[@Forreal950]

MPMD should do America Tours more often.

[@tomwalker389]

Poor Zack. Derek is not as overly enthusiastic as he wants him to be.

[@a.julian3770]

It's like Ruby Rhod interviewing Corbin Dallas.

[@kowya5952]

@@a.julian3770 who are these people xd

[@danhyde2656]

He is a poor podcast host.

[@mkitz88]

Yeah man, deca/dbol, classic

[@seanjohnston848]

Yeah, even while working out, Derek was constantly on his phone and seemed kinda "meh" about it all. Should be the one place to disconnect totally from the outside world. I wa surprised that he doesn't even seem to have a routine or program he follows. Probably too busy with other shit to care about the gym anymore. Could also just be his personality.

[@regularathom]

Lmao, as a Bulgarian, this makes me smile. Stuff was waaaaaaay out of the charts back then ( I do remember those times ). Check out our women in the athletics department at the time, they all look like men with the jaws and everything.

[@PDF16]

Please make that Tren cough exchange into a short. It was so good 🤣🤣

[@mturley8414]

I’ve literally passed out on a bad tren cough, and smashed my head on the bathroom sink… Good times.. God I love tren 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GiacomoVaccari]

He didn't even mention the best, most regretful part: when you realise you are a injecting CATTLE steroids once a day for months 😂

[@viklifts-zk8bl]

When talking about the time he had a near miss of a world record clean and jerk attempt infront of a government official, Hristov mentioned that "breaking Alexiev's record wouldn't have been good for his health". That's the most eastern bloc shit I've ever heard

[@KaHaDa_life]

"Volga" car in those days for an ordinary person in the Soviet block country was like getting a $100,000 car for an average North American today.

[@joshuablair252]

It was also common to work and dedicate your life to a job in the government of the USSR for a decade before getting a TV. To only be able to watch USSR approved propaganda.

[@HkFinn83]

@@joshuablair252did they have any shoes from the US?

[@jerkyjaw]

So that's where Blue Mountain State's top linebacker, Thad Castle got the idea for an oil change from.

[@ouroboroscartel8079]

😂😂 I was thinkin of the ‘oil change’ the whole time he was talkin bout it ahah fkin dope show too bad they cancelled it that shit was hilarious 💯💯💯

[@noosphericaltarzan]

Maybe the problem for most people is competition itself. I picked up a book on parkour on a whim and there was this whole section on philosophy that really struck me that spoke about their aversion to competition. That kid in the big box gym who only trains for appearances and comparison to others, who turns to drugs, really is not that different from the parkour kid who fell of a rooftop because he wanted to prove he was as good or better than the other parkour kids. I don’t exactly know the answer, but I do know most people would be happier if they trained for longevity and perfection of technique. That does not solve the problem at the competitive level, but maybe we ought to be focused more on the Dan Johns of the world who age strong. I find drug use unimpressive. Aging well is hard AF.

[@billburnsbrown9798]

What is the book called?

[@bflex]

..hey read my comment cuz I agree w you. .and been training or into fitness mu whole life...and that parkour kid was probably on purple microdot..lol..

[@bobbullethalf]

Dan John has some great stuff about training as we age.

[@giorgostmr7472]

You are refering to the idealism around sports but its not what happens. In my mind ancient Greece is the time and place in history when sports had their proper positionin society and correct approach eg play fair etc. However, thats what's passe to us from certain writers presenting a nice image. Back then they were taking "drugs" too. You only need one person to break and take the drug or any sort of performance enhancement and more will follow until it becomes ridiculous

[@pleaseenteranamelol711]

Yeah, i agree. Ive recently started lifting simply because i was bored at school and the weight room was open and available during lunch and break. Ive always been fairly strong, and i wanted to see what i can do. I do it for enjoyment, i dont do any sports or cycling anymore so this is a great opportunity to regain strength and feel stronger. The real benefit of excersize isnt *being* stronger, its *feeling* stronger. That great feeling is my main motivation.

[@jenniferbravo5043]

I come everyday after the gym to get dinner and watch one of your videos, I'm enjoying this routine a lot, thanks for the great content guys!

[@niceguy6152]

Hey Jennifer where you from

[@Rockyrules1995]

Abadjiev deserves Arnold levels of recognition. RIP to the Christ of Strength

[@nowiamyourgod]

At that time the brand name for Dbol was Bionabol made in Bulgaria. It was 2 mg, not 5. Retabolil is still available today and it's 50 mg/ml

[@milanignatov9829]

В началото имаше и на 5 мг бионабол

[@OverDose775]

@@milanignatov9829 до края си имаше 5 мг.

[@paulfrielrocky]

Back then it was metabolism 25mg ZACK IS GETTING milligrams and quantity of tablets these guys really haven't got a clue what they are talking about talking about mixed up

[@therealforestelf]

man I've been slacking on those vids for a couple of weeks but I am so happy seeing you guys making this content together, totally love it!

[@smik2518]

Man did it for a new Volga. The reward has more than repaid all the efforts

[@syndrome7589]

WE’RE DOIN OIL CHANGES AND THATS FINAL!

[@drmdc703]

Searched diligently for this

[@jimobito7883]

Man this podcast is gold!

[@LatimusChadimus]

Fr

[@scottessery100]

Please do MORE 😊

[@YukiGibson]

They should get Clarence with Derek, and discuss this same topic

[@-TK-]

@@YukiGibson seeing both introverts forced to sit in a room together for 2 hours would be very entertaining lol.

[@GudMarty]

25mgs of dbol and 5RM goes up on bench like 5%. 1000mg is ridiculous but they also didn’t have the internet back then, they really had no idea about dosing.

[@ronaknanda6175]

Those were the experimental years , practical knowledge gaining phase

[@alexanderantonov8586]

“They didnt have the internet back then so they didnt know”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Most funnt shittt i ever heard

[@nn-dj2nu]

i dont know how they didnt die, anything over 20mg for a few weeks makes me feel sick. 1000mg would probly kill me

[@kostmiko7779]

This is what weight lifting has always been about. They tried really hard in London 2012, and most lifters were relatively clean then, but the results were so disappointing. This is one of the costs of becoming a champion. Swimming, tennis, track, cycling. It is all the same, just some countries can afford better drugs

[@darkmagician1710]

You still have to have the baseline level of skill in your chosen sport, but yes drugs are a huge part of it at every competitive level

[@thebestevertherewas]

There are some sports which requires skill, and talent more than just Physical strength. Sports like Table Tennis, Badminton, Football, Hockey, etc

[@ThePavlincho]

keep up with the Bulgarian and/or eastern european stuff. Very valuable what do the americans think about us about sport related topics

[@0192-e7r]

Used dbol for 1 and a half month, 30mg. Blood pressure went high, couldn't deadlift heavy because of the nausea I would feel and my acne got back. Urine had a normal appearance but the smell was more intense. Did all the bloodwork 2 months later, everything went back to normal, except testosterone that was a bit lower than before. First and last time with any PED. With that amount they were using they must've been trying to make human foie gras.

[@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507]

Well u chose one of the least effective ones with some of the most sides so👨🏽‍🍼

[@FruitsaladOSRS]

@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 yeah exactly, just sounds like doing peds without having done any research on how to do peds

[@ilikecommenting6849]

Dbol only cycle? Very bad idea. Dbol is already very side effect heavy and if you don't add in regular test, you're in for a wild ride. You remind me of Homer Simpson when he went fishing with dynamite.

[@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507]

@@ilikecommenting6849 dbol only gangster

[@4C1DR4G3]

@@ghostofmoredishesmorebitch1507 you said least effective with the most side effects lol. if you can't handle dbol don't go onto harder drugs which is why people get given a dbol only cycle especially back in the day.

[@mykelengieza7057]

Appreciate the info you(and especially MPMD) are putting out here

[@IvanIvanov-jl1wb]

This is what I think. Generally, there is no sport (professional) without doping, but even with drugs, not everyone becomes a champion or at least a top athlete. Of course, there are always two points of view but Abadziev is one of these guys, who was an innovator in the weightlifting process and the way of training. Good or bad his name is well-known in the sport, so nothing but respect for him!

[@scottessery100]

How can they recover from maxing out 3 times a day 18 times a week …. 1:36 ah. I see 😊

[@ulric9964]

Bruh even if they were popping pills like candy body needs to rest to recover you don't just recover mid session

[@KogMawsTvShow]

@@ulric9964 If u take sterroids with HGH u recover like beast.

[@DarthBane-zf8wv]

Taking literally 100+ Pills per day. Vitamins, Peptides, Steroids, Prohormones. Livers destroyed within years.

[@kkech1]

@Ulric Did a T only cycle this year and was doing PPL like I used to. With the difference of training on rest days too. Was training 2-3x a day with a rest day at most in a week. I'd rest for a couple hours browsing memes and hit the weights again, especially going above 250mg.

[@KogMawsTvShow]

@@kkech1 I am now on 250 dose test and the recovery is insane. It's now 10 week and my strength go up over 20%.

[@MK4DubsCustoms]

Is Trenkoff a Bulgarian lifter? Who that?

[@daywalkermike]

Yeah. But the correct bulgarian spelling is "Trenkov" ! Or in kyrillian letters "TPEHKOV" . 😉 Edit: it is "TPEHKOB" . My mistake. Thank you, guys for correcting . Greetings from Bavaria !

[@MK4DubsCustoms]

@@daywalkermike в*

[@daywalkermike]

@@MK4DubsCustoms oh...of course. My bad🙂

[@АлександрВасильев-т6б]

@@daywalkermike ТРЕНКОВ*

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Bulgarian gold medalist at the 1935 Olympics

[@gikaradi8793]

GREAT vid gentlemen !! a video about the roaring 90s Greek team of coach Jakovou and PyrrosDimas would be also FUNtastic

[@georgebousserski6165]

Abadjiev ,was known as the Pope of weightlifting..the coach with most word,European and Olympic titles and records,for any sport in 20th Century. Perhaps none of you both know that.

[@zlts]

In Bulgaria we often say 'The national dope (weightlifting) team has been caught with weights (dope)'. I am pretty sure that most of the world class Olympic athletes are on PEDs. It is usually a State sponsored program just like we saw in Icarus.

[@yankees29]

Almost every athlete who has won a medal since the 60’s were juicing.

[@zlts]

I've just read Galabin Boevski's book 'The white prisoner'. In the book he mentions the Sidney 2000 drug scandal, where half of the Bulgarian team was caught with a diuretic called Furosemide. The standpoint of the federation at the time was that the weightlifters took the chemical without their knowing. The vitamin B-13 they were taking was produced on the same line as Furosemide and according to the federation there was cross-contamination between the 2 products. A further investigation showed that indeed 8 of the 10 batches of B 13 released on the market during that time contained some level of Furosemide. Also, according to one of the analysis, the quantity of the illegal substance found in the samples of the athletes was so small that if they had peed several hours prior to the competition none of them would have been caught. There was a court process that lasted 9 years, the decision of which was in favour of Sopharma - the producing company. p.s. i am not saying that our athletes were clean, just giving a bit more information on the second and last drug scandal involving Abadzhiev's name.

[@davecom3]

​@Мъжко Здраве there are other small countries who still get away with it now, simply thanks to geography.

[@KirilVarbanov]

As a Bulgarian, I don't really take pride in what he did back then. Plenty of injuries, broken souls and bad health with a very little return. But a good example nonetheless on what NOT to do. Doping is still pretty common in Bulgaria today.

[@Coronado-nz7wu]

So sad! I remember back in the 80's people talking about the Bulgarian system like it was a miracle in strength training then you find out it was all based on a lie. I feel sorry for the athletes forced to compete.

[@shadeofape2470]

??? Did you catch nothing from this video? The reason Bulgarians won so much gold was because of that method. Everyone took roids...

[@lostalone9320]

They also were physically and emotionally abused and FORCED to take drugs that destroyed their bodies.

[@yavor20v]

I know personally Valentin Hristov and I am friend with his sons Valentin and Boris. So about the urine “scene” he told us something like:”So we are at the drug testing and we’re about to piss. I am loaded with a clean urine and have nothing to worry about but I am afraid my bladder will explode every moment! And there’s the chinese powerlifter taking a piss right before I do and wow!!! His piss is in Hulk green !!! And I’m like That dude can not pass the piss test, no way!? Lol!” But guess what happened after?! Bulgarian team was “caught” juicing and they took away Valentin’s new car and the medals but the Chinese team was clean with those Tibetian herbs for cleaning their system which made their piss electric green!

[@vsenderov]

Българи юнаци!

[@Angel-fz8dr]

Или по-скоро: "българи назобеняци" 😅

[@TheTeodorsoldierabvb]

@@Angel-fz8dr Неназобени олимпийски щангисти няма

[@user-uw5if7mp1q]

Derek is like "Wtf am I doing here"

[@mariyantodorov913]

Abadjiev was number 1 on the planet coach ! Friend of mine did a training camp a with him was taking 1 tea spoon dbol per day heavy weight

[@GreatWhiteNiko]

You can't see what was really happening . Because you are completely separated from those times and places. The serious sad faces are not what you think. It was the culture, that is how we acted that's how everybody looked - dead serious and sad. Each one of those guys is a genetic freak of proportions hard to imagine. There were recruiters constantly visiting every school actively trying to find talent for all kinds of sports. The training was beyond brutal for any sport you got into. Everything was serious, nobody considered it could be fun. That is how the culture was. Find and translate the info about Abadjiev's youth and how he started weightlifting - it's a story of obsession, drive, genetic potential. The concept of overtraining did not exist. Three days (and nights) of what he did completely clean day in day out/night in night out and 99.9% of people will end up the ER - juicers or not. Those were different times and people had a different mindset - there are many examples of that in sports arena and outside of it. The drug use - do you really think that in a country you believe to be communist an athlete "decides" what to take or not take, when to start and stop? You are discussing things that are so far from where all of us, Bulgarian or not, are now that it makes the interview perfect for the internet - lots of shocking "facts", but really just fluff.

[@XunoHa]

Kudos for introducing much-needed context. What seems like complete insanity nowadays is just how thing were back then.

[@davekennedy6315]

But the US wants to look down on the drug use, even though they were doing the EXACT same thing!

[@misterop886]

@@davekennedy6315 yup, research the dawn of dianabol

[@ross_dnb]

Well said man. Shoutout to all my Bulgarian and Albanian teammates growing up who's parents never smiled. They thought I was a fucking alien lol Nicest ppl ever who though and always had Palachinki/a freshly made to share. Exhibiting dynamic emotions around others was just something that earned disrespect in their country and its no different in the Bulgarian Lifting example.

[@coltonkosto98]

It's an excerpt from a gold medalist you zealots

[@zergbong]

I am Bulgarian. The first thing I've learned about lifting weights is Deca.

[@markovasil1608]

A family friend explained that in Bulgarian communism and being high poverty lifters wanted to escape and provide for their families. Many lifters failed and got big injuries but the ones that survived became champions

[@Ashengard111]

Thats bs, there was no poverty or homelessness during the communism in Bulgaria, in fact most people remember it with nostalgia and reminisce how chill and carefree life was back then compared to now. But being a champion back then gave you status of a national hero and made your family and relatives proud. It also came with some kind of bonus from the government (money, car, home etc.). Weightlifting was what these guys were best at in life, so going full in was what they all did.

[@CoolGobyFish]

@@Ashengard111 I am from USSR, and I agree. there was no real poverty or homelessness. Everyone was pretty much taken care of.

[@elephant_888]

Lolol. The beauty of propaganda. Some folks here have been well programmed!! 🤖

[@TheTeodorsoldierabvb]

@@elephant_888 Like you, you mean? You're gonna tell me hoiw life in Bulgaria was, cause you remember it better than me? Sit down and eat your burger, and shut up.

[@breadman5048]

This interaction sounds like a middle school sleepover story..

[@Whyoakdbi]

I heard my PE teacher saying that the weighlifting team coach was telling them that they're gonna lift until they shit blood. (I am Bulgarian btw)

[@jayhendricks7487]

Those doses had to of given these cirrhosis, that's crazy dangerous. It would be interesting to somehow follow up with these guys in the years following those doses.

[@smudge78]

Derek is such an awesome dude

[@steveibiza5516]

I don't know why you demonize the man. Everybody was doping back then, and you can bet your life that they are still doing it right now. And still, nobody has Abadjievs results. It wasnt even close before Bulgaria was around 6 mil people and were winnig 75%of all medals in any weightlifting competition for at least 20 years. There was no success prior to Abadjiev becoming the head coach, and nowadays our team is just starting to regain its former. glory, did pretty good last world championship,Carlos Nasar is the guy who will become unbeatable ,almost already is at 18.Already holds world records for men. My point is Ivan Abadjiev is a legend, and even if these weightlifters went through hell, now their names are engraved in history forever. Galabin Boevski would've been just a narcotraficer , not a multiple world and Olympic champion. So it was definitely worth it.

[@haywoodjblome4768]

Yeah let's forget the fact they were literally cheating whilst killing themselves. L opinion

[@TheTeodorsoldierabvb]

@@haywoodjblome4768 I smell hypocrisy. There isn't a professional olympics team that doesn't do drugs. Thing is, you can't expose yourself, being americans, since the jury is yours :D

[@krigret]

I would like to see the team that did and does not take copious amounts of drugs . Those substances help but are not a the reason one athlete wins over the other. Abadjiev was simply the GOAT anything else is just envy.

[@dolphin069]

Huge improvements in recovery and injury while training on gear especially when training to failure daily. The cope you forget.

[@unholywarrior9007]

This is why listening to guys on you tube on how to train dosnt work . The guys telling you how to train are on steroids and they recover faster . You can't train like that or you will fall apart

[@NPFfumbi]

So true lol

[@FIGGY65]

Same as following the magazine routines of the pros in the 80s and 90s 🤣😎

[@inujoshwa89]

I think that guy rich God rest his soul really put the pin in the balloon with this information and started this trend it's not even a trend anymore.. thank you for your sacrifice and hard work I know the high majority of the fitness industry hate guys like you.. I do think if this goes on for another decade or so the whole industry is going to come out and just say they're all doping monsters and that's going to be that lol

[@bigpizza5319]

I’m over here trying to do a Bulgarian style of powerlifting training and I see this. I sure am in tune today

[@mrandrew17]

Idk how many times I prayed during tren cough I would never do it again….

[@blumpkinspicelatte4580]

Everyone talking smack on Dbol. I've had great experiences with it. The best quote I've ever heard describing how Dbol makes you feel is: "It gives you an overall sense of well-being". Truer words have never been spoken.

[@IordanIovkov]

Different people have wildly different reactions to it as far as I'm aware. I've never touched steroids but that's my couch expert opinion. :)

[@bilbobaggins9893]

What happened to all the weightlifting training vlogs with Dylan? Are you still training weightlifting?

[@DazePhase]

Иван Абаджиев was a great man. He passed away in 2017, leaving a legacy of world champions behind him.

[@nicowinter6664]

So crazy watching this. I trained with Alex v when I was a teenager and can attest to how insane the training was. He insisted on not taking drugs, I remember the topic was completely off topic

[@timaullini]

spent a bit digging for any sort of source, if anyone is still interested in Hristov’s story and the doping mentioned - there is an article from 2013 by Michael Cayton “Reflections on Champion on a Cross”. It’s a review of Hristov’s book in which he tells stories of the bulgarian training. I couldn’t find the boom itself, even in Bulgarian. So the sources are truly scarce.

[@3Z6I9R]

I did his “train legs everyday, 70%-90% pb. I was 185kg at the time. I became stronger, more energetic, mentally tough and I lost weight. I’m 125kg fit now. I read it and tried it. Shit workssss! It’s hard tho. 😂 I play rugby and haven’t injured my knees/ ankles since 2015.

[@crasnicul3371]

185kg jesus man you were a fucking tank

[@ivotheg2397]

@Crasnicul at 125kg, he's still a tank.

[@crasnicul3371]

@@ivotheg2397 yeah ik

[@keelanenns4548]

This segment was amazing

[@prun8893]

Not the 70's. This is the 80's. I train with Varbanov (bronze in Sarajevo) in Toronto now.

[@dimitardimitrov6343]

The greatest trainer of all time Почивай в мир

[@griffingeode]

The athletes weren't smiling? How old fashioned. These days every decent coach knows you have to increase your uppers if you want to increase PRs.

[@gregoriomiller8241]

Great content 👍

[@dylanowens3173]

In Bulgaria and Russia the Olympic doping team just happens to weight lift.

[@stoyanoo]

Лагерите на националния отбор по вдигане на тежести са оставили доста деца с травми за цял живот . До нас е достигнала само историята на тези, които са издържали и са станали състезатели.

[@mr.enigma8863]

Взимаш, каквото ти кажат, ядеш, колкото можеш повече без значение от качеството на храната и тренираш, като луд. Това ми го е казвал познат, прекратил вече, но уврежданията по черния дроб, ставите и организма си остават.

[@zhelyomitkov8657]

@@mr.enigma8863 какви Увреждания ти е казал? За Черния Дроб😂😂😂 Ядеш храна с лошо качество ?!? Една дума истина не каза

[@mr.enigma8863]

@@zhelyomitkov8657 А през кой орган минава всичко, което приемеш? През задника ли 😀

[@kitantraykov3115]

koito trenira po negovata metoda e obrechen na uspeh.kato ne iskash na divana ili patuvash BDJto

[@howardspeed3479]

А тези неща, всеизвестен факт ли са или в България само хората които са били в тези кръгове знаят колко е било тежко тренирането и колко хормони са се ползвали?

[@jeffwild972]

“Oil changes for everyone!” -Thad Castle

[@murugindungu5643]

classic 😂😂😂

[@pavlinvelikov1290]

Thanks to this man, we dominated this sport to such an extent that we became a threat to Russia. No one had seen results like this before. That is why the great Russian empire had to stop the small Bulgaria! As a Bulgarian, I am proud of what Abadjiev has achieved. He is the best coach of all time in this sport!

[@Jo-oe3pi]

I question how much of this drug overuse was actually for strength and power benefit directly and how much was for pain relief and aggression. If they actually got better from that dose then I would think people would still take that for weightlifting. But those doses sound like they were offsetting the injury risk of that training style with drugs rather than a more direct performance enhancement.

[@willemvanriet7160]

In the 90s I was racing sprint kayaking clean at worlds and Olympics. Got thrashed by all the east European teams incl. the East Germans who told me they had to hold their arms out to be injected daily, not knowing what it was, just to remain in the team. If they refused they were out..

[@willemvanriet7160]

I just check online this one specific East German died of pancreatic cancer a few years after the 1992 Olympic Games when I spoke to him…

[@itsfuego._.]

the title should be “two absolute houses barely fit into frame”

[@losnos79]

crazy duo here good shit

[@mattiapaterna]

Yes, Verona is in Italy-you got it correct! :)

[@autumnmccutchen482]

The way Derek describes the lower back pain sounds a lot like period pain

[@gregoriomiller8241]

It's terrible

[@rumenstoianov9200]

As bulgarian that uses light version of this system i can tell you it works. The first time i tried it my deadlift rose with 20kg/45lb in 2 and a half weeks Its very good for weighted pull ups too. Probably the best method for strenght building

[@Zlaterrr]

It is very good for short periods of time, to increase your peak effort. In the long run it is probably inferior to regular periodization.

[@Koba1t]

How does this not wreck your body?

[@rumenstoianov9200]

@@Koba1t it wrecks it. Im prepping for a powerlifting meet and ive been doing this system for the last month and a half and i needed 2 breaks of 4 days Some days on the deadlift i couldnt perform even 85% of my RM just because of CNS fatigue. Its draining but it works

[@KhanBalkan]

@@rumenstoianov9200 натурален ли си?

[@yankees29]

What’s your protocol right now?

[@f4ust85]

As an Eastern-European, I think ironically some of the satellite-states behind the Iron curtain were more terrible and brutal in terms of training and doping conditions than the USSR. In the USSR or East Germany, you at least had the means and trully professional emphasis on a full-on programme, you had quite clever, thoroughand almost pseudo-scientific organization from the pre-school years, the doctors and sports medicine behind it, it was an industry. In comparison, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria or Romania didnt have the money or the means to get the best gear or equipment, wouldnt sponsor a full-on doping programme, so they improvised and sort of compensated for it by pure madness and brute-force approach.

[@wilhelmvonkatastrophenburg469]

Eastern Europe bed stories. Welcome Derek.

[@rionizeman]

The cut back to his face when he explains tren cough 😂

[@richardmedina4765]

Outstanding.

May I suggest to you to interview Alexandr Varbanov..who owns a Gym in Canada....🙏🙏

[@jrsixowfour8674]

Hey bud, im no pro at hosting but id say pause for 5 seconds after a question or dialogue to allow the professional to give his honest advice, i also get being star struck as derek is no joke. Just my opinion, your doing good and im sure better than id be doin.

[@icixie]

In few months from now Derek will make a video on Zack`s use of PEDs - mark my words

[@mortendegn-pedersen3198]

So thats the real reason rauno heinla cough before a lift 😂?

[@amon3350]

Oh shit I didn’t even think of this

[@EVO6-]

Im pretty sure his is brought on by nerves I don't know what the benefit of pinning steroids 5 minutes before a lift would be. They don't work like that

[@bogdantoneff2693]

The most insane thing is that Abadjiev is still regarded as one of the greatest bulgarian coaches.... People only care about results I guess

[@MollymaukT]

Same with Louie Simmons in the US

[@mattb6646]

I been taking 100mg tren ace past few weeks, every other day, I don't always get the cough feeling but sometimes, though I've never actually coughed I just feel it in my throat and taste it. Kinda like getting that feeling so I know the shit works. And yeah I can relate with Derek on the dbol lower back pump, literally can't stand lmao

[@mattb6646]

@Hawaii 4-0 yeah me and a shit ton of other people. I'm not doing crazy amounts but I did want to try it so sue me.

[@GiacomoVaccari]

you never know when cough is coming, it looks months and months for me to get it for the first time, and only have gotten it twice in about a year total of usage

[@brettharter143]

You need to aspirate.......

[@felipetejeda7545]

So some of the guys were taking 150-200mg per day, and the average dose today is 20-50mg. Absolutely insane. Those guys moist have felt insane.

[@RIBBY_BOY]

You don't get a cough ive had it many times its just a pain in the lung and a burning you don't really cough ots worst and scarier then just a coughing fit its literally pain and burning in the lungs

[@kamuranDeliormanli]

Why that two guys talks about a subject which they have no any adequate knowledge and information? The Training sistem of Abadjiev fundamenatally changed the Olympic weightlifting and made champions way too much than eny other coach in Olympic history. You can't explain that with steroid abuse or any other chemicals.

[@scottessery100]

2:33 sounds like it was a cult…. Or abuse.

[@terciodeflandes97]

Communism.

[@utkarsh2746]

@@terciodeflandes97 lmao you think all Olympic coaches aren't exactly like that? Wikipedia olympic doping failures.

[@Roper122]

3:55 Verona, Italy... where Romeo and Juliet is set ( or even Two Gentlemen of Verona )

[@ciaosonoAlbertoG]

Yes, Verona is in Italy

[@atanasgadjalov7645]

sometimes they lifted 5 kg more in training than in competitions that set world records

[@mattepton5731]

He pulled a classic oil change on em, that’s some gnarly 💩 right there

[@Tangsters]

This is an awesome co-op! All you need is Clarence…

[@winningtechnique1849]

I am Bulgarian. The d-bol stuff is real. I knew bodybuilders in Ruse who were on a bottle a day. Two of the biggest Bulgarian bodybuilders in the late 90s and early 2000s ' were on 700mg per day - one died the other is ok as he was getting off everything when not competing. Us, the other bodybuilders who were sane thought this was crazy and not necessary but people did it. Having said that the people that did it were an extremely small minority.

[@MollymaukT]

just to put in perspective Arnold took 20mg dbol a day and his use was considered insane by other Gold's Gym members (most took 10mg)

[@benjamingrunberg7807]

Sovjet weightlifters, Rigert , Alekseyev looked happy.

[@filippogino3583]

Verona is in Italy.

[@Barbassoblues]

Yes Verona is in Italy

[@IFBBProYeo]

I've watched that movie. All in captions. It's an important part of study.

[@ПламенЛалов-МК]

Waiting For the coach Greg reaction :D

[@thebrognator3524]

There's an Italian natty pt training his athletes with a variation of Bulgarian. Some of them had decent results in PL , it's crazy but it works for some people.

[@supermario5568]

What’s his name?

[@thebrognator3524]

@@supermario5568 Marco PT is his youtube channel

[@Tom-vu1wr]

@@thebrognator3524 it's not bulgarian

[@thebrognator3524]

@@Tom-vu1wr it is bro. It's like his shtick, he's obsessed with the bulgarian method. His own adaptation of course

[@Tom-vu1wr]

@@thebrognator3524 ye but is it max out 3x a day 6 days a week?

[@Yocko93]

You should check Carlos Nasar, also bulgarian weightlifter. 18years old no roids setting records in 2 weight classes.

[@alxonpc9388]

No roids!? are you serious man hes obv not natty thats why hes setting records

[@Yocko93]

@@alxonpc9388 bro shut up 😂😂😂

[@jb1876]

How can all these strength athletes claim to be the strongest people in the world when they are all on drugs, I think you're average farmers and construction workers are the real strongest men in the world

[@victorhugo5207]

"What's that?" LOL, you're supposed to know these things, Derek.