Designing the Antares Confederacy for Stellaris Invicta

After investigating alternate worlds, it’s again time we look at one of our own. On this episode of Incoming, we take a behind the scenes look at the development of the Antares Confederacy for Stellaris Invicta.
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[@casbot71]

I can see the Canadian influence, Antares said _sorry_ after conquering the Vruul.

[@pendragon0905]

I'm not sowwy anymore!

[@aguspuig6615]

15:50 Antares confederacy: we have declared war Antares citizens: *proceeds to riot and cause more damage than the war itself* GTU: we have declared war GTU citizens: yes

[@GamersHolyArmy]

GTU citizens: Finally

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

_Hic Manebimus Optime. Here we shall remain most excellently._ _Onwards, Upwards, Forwards Antares!_

[@e1123581321345589144]

Oh man, that piece of lore was such a nice addition.

[@ZephLodwick]

I'm very happy that you made a space nation based on southeast Asia. Even programmes like Star Trek, which portray a multicultural future, are still effectively America or Britain in space.

[@aghostofthepast]

The contrast between the Antares Confederacy and the GTU is really interesting

[@marsar1775]

Im loving it too. And i love i can get into both

[@manticorephoenix]

The confederacy is so much more interesting, I just wish Marc had kept the military experience he learned in Season 1

[@vincegalila7211]

The contrast between the UTP and the GTU is also interesting.

[@AwesomeSheep48]

I think that was the point

[@BeepBoopFriendo]

"I wanted to do something truly different." *looks at the Discord and Subreddit* You ah... You certainly did that mate.

[@spongmongler6760]

sarcasm, I hope.

[@uncle5164]

I’m so glad I found this channel.

[@aghostofthepast]

Its a great channel.

[@marsar1775]

So say we all

[@bubbasbigblast8563]

At the very least, the House is pretty divided on what the future of the Confederacy should be: it's kind of split between Pacifist, Militarist, and Xenophile, which might be interesting in the future when it comes time to deal with Earth.

[@commissarcactus1513]

The Antares Confederacy has been a great experience for the Senate over on Discord. It's the reason why I joined the server, and I dearly hope for official Templin content to use some of the lore that Senators have created.

[@AndoCommando1000]

The world-building, creative design, concept art and backstory to the Antares Confederacy is so good I honestly hope this gets picked up by a streaming service and made into a tv series. I'm getting some Battlestar Galactica vibes, Expanse vibes, even bit of Lucasian Star Wars in there. Yet it's still very much its own original and unique thing and I'm loving all these videos!

[@irishspartanstudios]

Can you please make a proper Stellaris Invicta season 2, Antaeus Confederacy playlist? Also, I love the sheer stupidity of the CSA. "Oh, our previous nation was f**ked over by a hybrid confederate system? Let's do it again!"

[@scotticusmaximus5558]

it will be fine cause its THEIR hybrid confederate system

[@irishspartanstudios]

@@scotticusmaximus5558 Well yes, obviously. Plot armor certainly helps with that. However, unlike the CSA, the member states are ACTUAL nations, and not some kind of hybrid between state and nation like the CSA.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

They do have a proper playlist?

[@irishspartanstudios]

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim I know, recently informed by them themselves. I simply posted this comment before I knew.

[@d.b.4671]

Question: why does a majority Muslim-Buddhist nation with minimal Western influence use Latin mottos? How does the lore make that work?

[@NeonSm1le]

The use of Latin might be the closest analogue to a unifying heritage they can find as none of the major cultures in the Earhart flotilla have a common Empire ancestry, the exception is in fact the Muslims, not just through the ancient Caliphates but also in fact through the Roman Empire which many modern Muslim nations like Turkey, Egypt and Tunisia were once a part of. And the choice of going with a dead language like Latin instead of say a commonly used one like Arabic might be a compromise to avoid favouritism and pissing off the large groups of African heritage which would be majority Christian, and the Buddhist East Asians. The only other possible dead language I could think of to use for uniting symbolism is Sanskrit from India, But Indians weren't a large contingent of the Earhart flotilla, and Sanskrit's links to Hinduism might offend the many Muslims in the Antares.

[@alekssavic1154]

Someone in the original leadership must have been a fan of Roman history, so probably came up with that one reference and it just stuck and became a theme over time. I think some reference from India may make more sense thematically (it is where Buddhism and Islam overlap irl), but it's not like people from other parts of the world can't be European history nerds.

[@CleoPinto4317]

The roman Republic is probably a very good organisation to symbolicly connect antarus with because of the ideals displayed in that moment.

[@thefolder3086]

I really like the idea of an Asian African space confederacy. I live in south east Asia and I love to see my region getting recognized in sci-fi.

[@nusantaramapper7580]

Sounds realistic, colonist are also motivated by the situation at home. I don’t think any western people would want to live their place for an underdevoloped new place, unless they are adventurers.

[@PaiSAMSEN]

I think the less-than-perfect government structure of Antares Confederation is what give it its charm. It barely occurred to me how too perfect GTU ever was until I saw the Antares prologue.

[@aureusknighstar2195]

"...and red and gold colors for the bad guys" **China is typing...**

[@stephenweinelt1175]

To be fair, the CCP are currently the bad guys.

[@stephenweinelt1175]

@MiketheLord ah yes, those morally grey concentration-camps and ethnic clensing they have over there. Theres alot wrong with america too, alot, but atleast we arent purging a minority population for being the wrong ethnicity.

[@stephenweinelt1175]

@MiketheLord genocide is bad. Stop defending genocide. The CCP is doing ALOT of bad things. Genocide is the top of that list as far as im aware.

[@jetjavelin7593]

We Vietnamese also use the Red and Gold color, just saying...

[@Linterna001]

@@jetjavelin7593 Shhh, you are the classic turn, the enemy that becomes the ally XD

[@thorshammer7883]

Can you do a series of videos of the Sci Fi universe of Farscape? It's a rich galaxy with excellent world buliding, factions, and characters like Scorpius.

[@incompletemachine877]

I feel like a great time could be had with the more origins mod, specifically the 'house divided' origin, with lots of small stellar nations derived from one species, doubly so if you could find a way to edit the stellar nations so you could control them a bit; just a thought XD

[@smuu1996]

So they sent Indonesia to space? Noice.

[@UnaSallasVictus]

To Earth! Together! Join the Confederate Navy Today!

[@shadowtheme96]

"The jury is still out if we've succeeded..." Oh you've succeeded alright. Big time too. Forwards Antares!

[@pauld7023]

Thank you so very much! Antares is my first roleplay and I absolutely love it! I love the atmosphere, the non conventional ways. It all fits together perfectly! Forward Antares!

[@vndk8r]

This is such a cool concept. I need a movie series about this. I may even read a book series about it.

[@davehale3992]

Forward Antares!

[@TheFunnieGamer]

I'm glad you made it so different, and after seeing the first few episodes of the Antares Confederacy I feel like it's better than if we got the Sol Empire or something.

[@joaquincrespo4880]

I think You have done a great job, however, I never got the feeling or impression that the confederacy was on the verge of splitting

[@noelmcgrath9544]

Your stellaris series has given me some of the best inspiration to publish my own science fiction lore series. I can't wait to see what you do next.

[@turon7725]

When The Templin Institute announced that they are making a season two and the contestants, I wanted the United Terran Protectorates or the Holy Solar Empire to win. Because I felt like the other contestants were to much like the G.T.U. or like most western style Sci Fi media. And when I saw that the Antares Confederacy won the polls I was a little sad but thanks to this video I have become to admire it for being more unique than its western counter parts. to that end I thank The Templin Institute for making this world building unique, different, and interesting. I cannot wait to see how the Antares Confederacy's "Hero's Journey" will take place and how it will change at the end of season two.

[@robertcoplin2830]

I came into this world far behind it's developmental process and have no idea how I can be involved. Having said that; this an absolutely fascinating universe. I was hooked immediately. I read a lot, play one on-line game and KZbin pushes my comfort zone on social media stuff. If something doesn't grab me it's gone. Not this. You all have done an amazing and impressive creative job. Now I see my task as researching all the various members of the Confederacy so I understand who they are and trying to keep up.

[@jlassijlali290]

yes i has my dubte but watching this make me love Antares even more

[@ArkaSaurusRex218]

Please do for the lore next: The Cascadian Republic (Project wingman)

[@WAanik]

I would really like to see some stories of life in each of the republics. Stellaris and any other contemporary sci fi is so grand in its scale, sometimes we forget how it will be to live in that.

[@MDFification1]

I remember telling people Antares was Space Canada, and being told I was talking crazy. I feel vindicated.

[@georgelabe-assimo4365]

I honestly just got into this series today and I'm loving it so far!

[@michaelpeciak8980]

does anyone else just really like the background music they use. It really makes the videos even better

[@lincolnkoller760]

I never knew the Templin Institute was from Canada! As a fellow Canuck, that's awesome.

[@MrStephen182]

It's because the Antares Confederacy is so different to what you mostly get in sci fi is what makes so drawn to it.

[@VictorSanchez-eu7sk]

Honestly I thought the relationship between religions and the confederacy attempt to remember, and maintain what knowledge of the home is borderline genius. The first citizens of Antares I my mind at least would have very few history books, much less a library of historical documentaries and first hand accounts, and all the things you would need to not only remember their home but understand it too. But what books they did have where religious books. Books belongs to individual colonist who now had in their hands the most complete and most reliable sores of history of earth. I would make sense a nation of scared and desperate and lost people's would cling on to any memory of home.

[@Myname-cb9ru]

How could you forget Switzerland? It's literally called the Conferatio Helvética

[@rosesareredbutzerglingssti9290]

Personally, I'm trying to create something inspired in the Star Nations from the Honor Harrington series of books -- more precisely, I am trying to create my very own Star Kingdom of New Eden. Do you have any suggestions?

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

The like to dislike ratio says a lot. You may not have made us love Antares as much as the GTU but you certainly made something vastly unique and interesting none the less

[@rupertgarcia]

Tbh, I love the attention to detail with all of your work, especially the Stelaris Invicta series. I've never been so patriotic towards a fictional nation as much as I have been for the GTU and the Antares Confederacy. Looking forward to what the series has in store for us! FORWARD ANTARES! Edit: Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "BOOBS" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "PogChamp" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series” “Minecraft" "ASMR" "straponsexisfun" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series”

[@wloss600]

So for season 3 I'd think it'd be fun to dive into a humanity that has fallen from grace,either by nuking themselves or being destroyed by an alien nation and forced back to earth

[@fumarc4501]

Could have used the Iroquois Confederacy of Tribes would have made for an interesting influence. Oh what could have been.

[@The0Way0i0Figure0it]

Thanks , I am really enjoying the playlist.

[@Illkiron]

I love your design ideas! Keep them up

[@Mechamorphh]

"I [recruit name] do solemnly swear my allegiance to the Antares Confederation and willing submission to the will of those lawfully placed above me." (The influence of the Muslims informs the wording of the last half of the line. Out of respect for the beliefs of their other colonists, all references to particular gods or God were not included into the oath.) "Upon my honor and the honor of my House, the entire Confederation is now my Tribe. I enter now into a vast fellowship and all who march under the flag of Antares are my brethren." (Family honor is a big thing in many constituent components of the Confederation. The wording of "Tribe" is both invocative of the African heritage of the Confederacy and to avoid any mention of "Republic" or "Nation".) "I shall forsake all personal glory, wealth and comfort. My honor shall be that of the Confederacy; the defense of Her people and the upholding of Her values." (The Buddhist influence in rejecting the temptation of the material world) "In honor of the Expedition, I shall brave the unknown. In memory of the Lost Colonies I shall endeavor. To live up to the example of the Pioneers, I shall display dauntless courage even in the face of death." (Touchstones to the shared events in the founding of the Antares Confederacy) "May this oath bind me until I join our ancestors in the stars."

[@zodiacstarlegues]

You guys should make a tv, comic, or movie series of this! You guys have a huge fan base and merch, if you make something like a prequel comic when the settlers first appeared to the foundation of the Confederacy. With that you could get a bigger fan base and more money from the comics. The next phase could be an animated series on the state of the confederacy detailing minor to major events! You guys have more diversity and creativity to your government than any other series, it does not follow any trope you find in most sci-fi series!

[@aharakbar9118]

as much as i love to seeing them doit i think thats still not possible maybe in the future like 1 or 2 year we can only hope

[@literalsarcasm1830]

This would make a great book series. Or a series of book series.

[@generalsmite7167]

I hope that even if it takes place after the season would be to have a Antares civil war or some sort of conflict over internal division.

[@johnnystonks3970]

I'm very happy someone finaly takes inspiration from the EU. It's a big and low superstate, sometimes doing stupid and very ideological thing that divide the union between east and west, progressive and conservative.

[@walterhaider869]

Hi guys how are you doing? Being productive in 2021?

[@walterhaider869]

@Live Fast same

[@Warden0190]

Marc: Why is green not a popular color? Me: Green is not a creative color.

[@Cythan]

people:why not me:*looks out window*mm idk

[@erwinzyx]

Looking for a culturally and ethnically diverse human sci-fi universe. Hmm, makes me think of Battletech.

[@manticorephoenix]

Or Macross

[@austinguthrie5528]

I love the sheer level of detail you guys put into these series. Watching season one definitely helped me in world building my own sci fi universe. Just still working on a proper flag for my protagonist empire. And which name one sounds better? The Struggonian Empire? Or The Aeternum Imperium? Homeworld name is Aeternum. Ruled by and Immortal Emperor who is the last human in the universe. Any ideas would help me greatly

[@aharakbar9118]

i think il choosed the aeternum imperium and is the immortal emperor gonna revive humanity or is he gonna ruled a difrrent species and if you alredy finished the work can you send me the link i want to see it too

[@austinguthrie5528]

@@aharakbar9118 sort of. He rules over a multi species empire. But the species that makes up the bulk are the Struggonians who he saved from extermination and then genetically modify with some human dna he managed to save and now there all hybrids. And i have none of this on actual "paper". This is all in my head. Been developing this universe for some odd 12 years now.

[@aharakbar9118]

@@austinguthrie5528 is he some kind a god or a really powerfull human

[@austinguthrie5528]

@@aharakbar9118 more of a very powerful human. All of humanity was pretty much sacrificed in order to grant him immortality and ever since then he learned more occult and supernatural abilities from other races and has modified his own body with alchemical and technological enhancements. Pretty much the Emperor of Mankind and Darth Vitiate wrapped into one. The man's OP

[@zoofway]

killin it

[@kalcifer1234]

Congrats i could easly see this as a kick ass tv show we should maybe inform amazon or disney

[@captainvalourous6668]

Suggestion: Can you also do a video about Roboute's Indomitus Crusade?

[@Malkamok]

Here we shall prosper! FORWARD ANTARES!

[@willisread6624]

How do you make your flags? Like what program did you use? They look so cool!

[@neves5083]

I loved to hate the great Terran union, and although I really liked the premise of the the Antares confederacy, for most of the season two i didn't really indentified with it. I hoped always that it was successful sure, but almost until the end, i didn't really saw it like something I could be part of. But in the end i could.

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

When You Discover The Antares Confederancy Was Based On Canada: *Sad CSA Noises* But Then You Notice That Actually There Were Some Major Details Based On The CSA: *Happy CSA Noises* And then You Realize That The EU Was Also One Of The Most Important If Not The Most Important Base: *Happy EU Noises* *More Happy Germany Noises* *And Less Happy But Still Happy Italy Noises*

[@ZearthGJL]

Day ??? of Embasora not being mentioned.

[@jacobmeeler1256]

Could we learn more about the symbolism of the republic flags?

[@trbd]

Have you ever consider making video on how to 'justify' a world government or wide reaching government in general? You know, like, why would people agree to a centralised govt, what ties them to the central govt, how can unification through rapid conquest would last, etc.

[@MrDeadlySamurai]

I find that there might be a lot more lore to be explored with respect ot religion in the Anteres Confederacy. Considering it is a confederacy and yet its dominant religions are Islam and Buddism, that does not leave a huge amount of historical precendent in the real world beyond some South East Asian countries and some regions of India. The impression I get is that the Confederacy is mostly secular, which, again, is historically rare in the real world for a mostly Islamic nation. Considering that in both regions, the history of relations between the two religious groups has been strained, to put it mildly, it would be interesting to explore the extent to which religion influences politics in the confederacy and subsequently now these two major releigious groups have come to (at least mostly) coexist. I imagine issues like womens rights (including participation in the military and in government), freedom of expression and various economic aspects like the sale of alcohol or the functioning of the financial market would all be very different if religion played a more prominent role in the Confederacy so I think it would be cool to explore how religion ther become more liberal and less strict, something which has few real-world precedents with respect to Islam. Perhaps Turkey post-WW1 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire might serve as an interesting case-study, as the country basically turned from a multicultural, but ultimately Islamist, nation into a secular democracy that happened to be majority Islam almost overnight once Attaturk started enacting reforms as the country's first President. I would be happy to discuss this with others who might have more ideas or even knowledge of the relationship between relgion and politics in what seems to be a mostly secular representative democracy!

[@eitkoml]

I just looked and can't find the Antares System mod on Nexus Mods or the Steam Workshop. When will it be available to us?

[@suryokai47]

Is there any possible chance for the confederacy to get into a war in ramadhan month and be victorious in eid al-fitr?

[@enesimajebi2935]

Question is, did any of the Antares Members of Parliament give their leader shit for eating a chocholate bar?

[@vincegalila7211]

I wonder if there could be conflict between the extra-system colonies and the original colonies.

[@zuzuzuko3947]

How about the North German Confederation or German Confederation even?

[@gokbay3057]

Also Switzerland. Historical one I mean, current one while called a Confederation is actually a federation but the one that existed before the French Revolution was a proper confederation.

[@thomasjenkins5727]

I would rather live in Antares over the GTU a thousand times out of a thousand. But I think you told a more coherent story about the GTU. On reflection, this is probably because the GTU's narrow scope of motivation makes them easy to understand, where the more political nature of Antares requires more work showing the attitudes within it and why it ends up doing what it does. In other words, this might just be a symptom of telling the story more or less as it develops, without going back to edit foreshadowing into earlier scenes. And given that... yeah, y'all did a pretty good job.

[@r1ppl3_13]

Actually the 1st confederation that comes to mind for me would be the swiss. Not the CSA

[@xiphactinusaudax1045]

What exactly are the boundaries for a Western-style democracy? I basically have every nation in my worlds be democratic in some form, at least all the significant ones, but I was just wondering what could constitute a not Western-style democracy so I can avoid applying it to all my nations.

[@ArchOfWinter]

Are there any mods out there that incorporate a scripted campaign based on Season 1? Not just mods for Stellaris, just any strategy game in general.

[@generalnawaki]

what? you mean like how any vote west of Ontario may as well NOT be counted?

[@Kodalith]

Is Invicta Season 02 done? I can't find it anywhere.

[@damnallseperatist]

SPACE CANADA!!!!

[@iloldirl]

How did you create the custom starting system?

[@Viguier89]

Nice video, but naming the EU a super state is actually weird because its budget is only 1% its members GDP, but i know you meant.

[@buu678]

Will you guys write books on your work? I'd buy them.

[@stormy9557]

JAUN

[@donaghb7307]

5:30 have you been able to play this challenge in the game itself?

[@alphaomega7112]

Is there any christian filipinos in that mix ? Cause im under the impression that this is a somewhat space asean with a twist.

[@shaftoe195]

For your information: the Russian flag is called the "tri-color".

[@mikkor.860]

I know i’m a bit late, but I’m pretty sure he was talking about flag nicknames, like “Old Glory” (US Flag) and “Union Jack” (UK Flag), not flag types

[@saladinbob]

One criticism I would have is that you set up the Confederacy to have been born out of settlers from both Africa and Asia yet not one single name in the entire series sounded African, everyone of them was either from South Asia or the Islamic world. Whilst I realise Mohammed, or Salah al-Din could technically be North or East Africans, it still doesn't convey a sense of West, Central, and Southern Africa like Abara, Abebe, or Abimbola (the three most popular surnames in Africa) would. That then suggests that those from Africa became marginalised, never entering the higher echelons of society, which was a mistake, within the context of the blueprint you set yourself.

[@saladinbob]

Something else. The thing I liked the most about this was the backstory for the Screk. It would have been easy for them to be another cliched alien puppet master but they actually turned out to be every bit as much a victim as Earth did, and it was a nice touch not wiping them out as you would normally see, but having them follow their own redemption arc and regaining their honour. I wish more sci fi writers would take the time to add a little nuance to their stories.

[@kgb9183]

Hi I said hi

[@kgb9183]

@@wrightkaneradio4918 bye

[@clash3583]

STRIKE THE IRON CHENGATAI

[@zohaibthebeast9023]

I'm bad at my history but Why didn't u wanna include the CSA elements in the CRA?

[@aharakbar9118]

well because they secceded from the united states because they wanted to keep and expanded slavery

[@AaronPaulIbarrola]

What do I think? Are they Human? Good enough for me! lol

[@jankostrhun8725]

Yes if you want an example of hopelessly incompetent multi-state entity EU is the best example no matter the age, galaxy or dimension. And yeah you definitely succeeded. The AC not being western democracy is a bit of a received characteristic (I'd argue, in a bit of a dickish way, that changing most common name from John to Achmed might be start but not a finish line- it might be for some peopel for forme both are foreign names and the political system itself is very much westernized) but I get that making it anything more would not only require a ton of work but getting it into series would be... a bit overwhelming. And yes it is refreshing change, can't wait for further development.

[@GamersHolyArmy]

Canada is a confederation of one state

[@SpahGaming]

cool

[@rusongzhang4498]

marc i love the idea of antares but all the small nations that make up the confederacy aren't really interative many people like to associate themselves with specific nation can you make more interactions between a fan and the nations its just besides fan art fans of a nation cant show really affect the nation at all

[@clash3583]

there already is, join the discord

[@aguspuig6615]

8:44 honestly i like antares but im still happy you mentioned that, theres always that 0,00001% fear of one of your favourite youtubers going pc

[@warlove5106]

The True American Imperial Diarchy

[@reidnutter1476]

Woo Canada!

[@lukemandalore7690]

i preferred the gtu much more intresting

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

You Should Have made a Purple Flag. It Is Way Less Popular Than Green. Why? Because In Ancient Times And Even Medieval,Renaissance Times It Was Quite Expansive. One Of The First Flags Since The Roman Empire With Purple Was The Second Spanish Republic Flag, And Nowadays There Are No Nations With Purple On Their Flag. So It Would Have Been Cool If The Antares Confederancy Had Purple On It's Flag Instead Of Green or Literally Any Republic.

[@freewyvern707]

Purple has connotations with aristocracy and imperialism due to the rarity of the colour in history. The colour simply doesnt fit in this context. A nice fit for purple in a nation that just isn't an Imperial Authoritarian State is the Commonwealth of Nations.

[@baneofbanes]

@@freewyvern707 Republican Spain incorporated purple into its flag.

[@freewyvern707]

@@baneofbanes true, but that doesn't change its Imperial and Aristocratic connotations

[@Kelevra121]

Should look up the Circassian Flag, seeing abit of similarity. Plus the Circassians were once called The Circassian Confederacy :) and are mostly an Islamic people

[@aidanmeacham1999]

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