How the CPU cheated you in Street Fighter 2

[@damageinc.5458]

Yeah, my brother would always yell, "The games Cheating" and throw the controller at the wall & it appears he wasn't crazy after all.

[@ProfessorGoon]

DAMAGE INC. I use to throw the cartridge 😂

[@damageinc.5458]

@@ProfessorGoon He threw the cartridge too. Put a big crack in it, but it still worked. 😂

[@aliciafraser1835]

@@damageinc.5458 The cartidge itself is just a casing, so long as the small chip inside in in one piece it will continue to work.

[@lilabdennour]

Lol thats what i use to do. And now i know the truth.

[@Ury3L]

@@lilabdennour We're not alone anymore TT ^ TT

[@LakesideUso]

All the times i yelled at the screen "bullshit! I blocked that!", have finally been validated.

[@craigjuan5744]

You and me both

[@fendra3717]

i always blame my controller my poor controller

[@koshaz3x]

I'd like your comment, but I don't want to change that beautiful number.

[@LakesideUso]

@@koshaz3x 🤣🤣

[@TDOLLA]

haha I vividly remember the times I got in trouble for cussing when I was a kid were almost all street fighter related. I could control myself in basically any situation except for when I was deep in a street fighter run and the computer was doing some bullshit. I would yell out some expletive and my mom would be like “I’m going to take that game away if you can’t control yourself! I can hear you freaking out all the way in the kitchen!!” meanwhile on the screen M Bison is just taunting me

[@Adidaas]

My childhood has been scarred by how many times Guile walked forward and instantly transitions to Somersault without crouching.

[@Lenriak]

That bullshit is the reason I despise charge mechanics and have never believed they belong in a fighting game (or any game, really.)

[@Prowl76]

@@Lenriak Because a CPU character can cheat it? Who cares? Who plays against CPU? Git gud and play against people.

[@kodaiyoung]

@@Prowl76 I prefer to deal with the cpu hacks than with rage quiters, salty players, self confident jerks and people that only have balls when they are playing online. "Gitting gud" is not even a valid reason at this point.

[@an0therdimensi0n99]

Gets out tin foil - - street fighter wasn't created to give us gen x'ers memories to cherish, there were happy merchants rubbing their palms together behind the curtain.

[@9sj1ji3kn4p2]

Guile and Sagat were the nightmares of my childhood, well they are still my nightmares

[@jeffb.6642]

Even with a turbo controller holding down ALL the buttons and mashing the D-Pad, I could still never manage to get that many hits from the grab-type throws. On the hardest difficulty the CPU would sometimes break free of the grab before it could even hit once.

[@orbitaljellyfish808]

I always wondered about a turbo controller. Interesting I swear there were kids at Pier 39 (SF early 90’s) who could play like the computer. I left embarrassed and convinced there were god mode single frames these kids could hit. I was good but couldn’t compete. One kid defeated everything I had with Chun Li drop kicks. Literally his only move and nearly untouchable. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@nicksamuel8324]

You can't and never will. I've hacked this game and there are actually certain limits to a throw that are concrete to players regardless of how well they mash. The CPU has different ones set entirely.

[@FreeAimDog]

@@nicksamuel8324 how do you do throws in this game in general?

[@LobsterPuncher]

It’s as if a million souls all cried out at once “I blocked that!”

[@Jappchae]

"You weren't even blocking. Don't lie." -A Million Older Brothers

[@seanalexander8558]

me and my brother screamed that lol

[@christinerivo111]

Well, my dad was just cheating at Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting on SNES so he could just win for nothing

[@dadi9570]

yes...

[@ethanbrady8041]

But i was blocking

[@devaughnsalter7379]

And people looked at us crazy when we said the computer was cheating...

[@blabla-rg7ky]

yeah, man, you know it too... We've been right all along but no one believed us :(

[@ShaneDouglas713]

The Truth finally comes out...

[@ShaneDouglas713]

@Eugene Boucher Exactly 💯% they don't know shit

[@polandrew2876]

I feel u bro

[@FirebirdCamaro1220]

Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat 3 were even worse

[@HolyHadou]

CPU doesn't care. Even in a collection, it wants your quarters.

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

Amen to that !

[@MrShadno]

Correct

[@darksoulsismycity]

Even in Fightcade it wants your quarters

[@Southy88]

good one lol

[@HolyHadou]

@@darksoulsismycity Balrog was right. There's no escape...

[@JoseMolina-ij3xx]

Fightning against another player was considered true play in Street Fighter 2. Fight against the CPU was more like learning AI patterns and not actual fighting, because the AI did things that normal players should not be able to do, but the AI was so buggy that you could take advantage of it.

[@Tamachii12]

The classic "cheese" because the CPU is pretty much overtuned, imput reading or straight cheating or all of them combined...

[@MacInTheBox]

Aww... They edited their comment so now mine doesn't make sense anymore... And if was super clever, too... "Actual fighting"... Yeah like when I get in an argument at the store and someone shoots a fireball at me

[@bobbobby8250]

Very true, I remember I could beat the game, on hardest setting, with blanka, without losing a round because I had all the patterns figured out. He's was the only character that could compete with Vega's jumping.

[@Brianchse]

​@@bobbobby8250Guiles invisible throw could be used to win a game without even letting the other person touch you. It could also be used to pull Vega off the fence so he couldn't slam you. Only works on original SF2 world warrior though. They patched it out for all the versions after.

[@hahajwrjegghh1721]

Well, it also was a thing in mk2

[@SweaterPuppys]

Me 18 years later seeing this video: “I FUCKING KNEW IT”

[@Heinz76Harald]

ya, exactly....

[@hesgotamotor8288]

Yup street fighter owes us plenty of coin lol

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Yup

[@kuan720]

Right?

[@michaelriddick7116]

Willing to bet they aint the only offender with this.

[@SimonMoon5]

My favorite "cheating by not charging" moments were when I'd hear Guile saying "Sonic-- Sonic Boom!" as he interrupted throwing one sonic boom with another sonic boom. Cuz like... yeah, you can't do that.

[@jerrywebster7678]

Yeah man! I remember that shit happening too, now that you mention it. Sonic...Sonic Boom...Sonic Boom...

[@ianjacka469]

@R OMG that looks amazing! It's 2 a.m. and I HAVE to sleep. But I'm ashamed to admit, as a 41 yr old man I'm too excited to close my eyes, lol.

[@zacwilliams457]

You think that's bad try "Sonic-flash kick-boom", no word of a lie I almost broke my room when that happened.

[@DaigoParry]

Yes, I told my friend that, and he didn't believe me. He one-upped me by saying, "Yea, and I saw Ryu 'Hadou-Hadouken' me man..." And I went 😑😑💭 (I wasn't lying dude).

[@Alan-cm7ye]

@@DaigoParry Ryu: had had had hamehameha

[@Target00smile]

If only those who’ve said “Calm down, it’s only a game” back then knew how it was actually an heroic coup d’état against a corrupt system…

[@Hardstyler981]

kof was a bitch mortalkombat was another one smfh

[@glenwaldrop8166]

@@Hardstyler981 MK was even worse. CPU could grab you from the air, from too far away, during hitting them...

[@fredsas12]

Hahah, if these happened like this today, there'd be so many lawsuits. It pretty much gambling with rules, but with the house visibly cheating.. :)

[@Target00smile]

@@Hardstyler981 No empire could withstand the combined forces of the KOF bosses. As Confucius always said: _”Fuck Igniz in the aysssss!”_

[@zeonzexion8592]

@@Target00smile When I was playing KOF 95 when I was a kid, I swear that Rugal took 95% of my health bar with only one Genocide Cutter! Detail: He was blocking my aerial kick and immediately followed with GC... I'm gonna sue SNK now LOL

[@genericbonk]

I remember that CPU Zangief was the reason why the director of Wreck it Ralph put him into the bad guy therapy

[@michaeljames4487]

I remember screaming that the computer cheated, and my parents saying "computers can't cheat"

[@AdmiralBison]

Yeah, they're programmed to cheat.

[@koolaidman531]

Same. When guile and blanka charge while walking forward 😒

[@zacwilliams457]

The worst I had was when Guile walked forward did a sonic boom and then a flash kick before he'd even finished saying "boom" 😒

[@damianlogan8538]

@@zacwilliams457 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@ShadowDancer_]

@@koolaidman531 lmfao

[@torachan23]

My childhood rage justified.

[@eon001]

Aint that the truth. I feel so vindicated.

[@B1ggRandall]

Yep

[@paccacio2935]

I feel your pain

[@spoonie821]

Could not of said it any better there.

[@StridBR]

I feel your pain too, but don't let me get started on racing games and how I only found out about "rubber banding" later in life 😖. I gave up on those shitty games 😅

[@deskcombo]

Hey Everyone, ever since the shadow chun-li video went up I've been putting a ton of time into another new vid... and it's not this one. 4 weeks work and it's currently sitting at around 17 minutes and is the longest video I've ever made, by far. To prevent getting burned out on it, I decided to spend the past few days making this. Anyway, the point is, even when I'm not uploading, I'm working super hard on other videos. So, if you've been supporting this channel and my videos for a a while, I want to say thanks and assure you that I haven't gone anywhere. These videos just take a long time to make. Thanks everyone!

[@xolucas2015ox]

Hey man, you're the best! :)

[@catreflex]

We love you desk!!! Please don’t ever stop!!

[@HeeroAC195]

Your videos are some of the very best parts of KZbin. Really appreciate you man, thank you for these.

[@kramareva7446]

No worries man! Just keep doing what you are doing...

[@TheMarvelousFig]

Your hard work is appreciated and that time/effort definitely comes through in the final product. You create some excellent content and the last thing your viewers want is for you to burn out on a project. Take all the time you need and enjoy yourself!

[@nicksamuel8324]

@desk there are two you forgot. 1. The bell. If you throw a fireball at them and it hits them after the bell, no damage happens. But not only they can attack for 1 frame longer than you can, their attack will also damage you AFTER THE BELL, and can even cause a KO even though you rightfully won. 2. Damage. They actually do around 30% more damage per move. You can tell if you look at the raw value of the health bars in Super Turbo.

[@NMGardening]

I knew it! Now I dont feel as dumb for saying the game cheats haha

[@Istar47]

Seriously, all these years, and finally validation!

[@Denji2006]

There's a lot CPU doing things that are impossible for the player even to this day.

[@therealbahamut]

@@Denji2006 Oh it's not even the impossible bits that bothered me. It's the bits where it flat out changed the rules in its favor for select moments. That "god mode" section isn't something I remember but that may be because it sometimes happened too fast for my teenage mind to process. The 95% throws though? Yeah, that bullshit had me breaking controllers...AND TV screens.

[@DocBlue005]

Of course it cheats. The only way you can fight the cpu fairly is in normal to normal high difficulty, that is 5/10 to 7/10

[@therealbahamut]

@@DocBlue005 Even then it's not really "fair;" the CPU goes from just deciding when you lose to not caring enough to try. It's always been a tough balancing act for any fightin game dev, to be fair.

[@Dan0101010101010]

CPU: "You need more coins to defeat me. Go home and get family coins."

[@ultracartoonartist7635]

that's genius!!

[@sieman78]

lol

[@razeboxanimations3215]

LMAO

[@mitchelvalentino1569]

Omg 😂 😂

[@jimmywhitfield41]

True very true 🤣

[@SomeBlackGuy]

When I saw the title, I knew the charging thing would be in here. That always angered me; especially when Balrog would rush punch the hell out of you with no charging.

[@theozzyjoker2985]

Yeah Balrog was a blatant none charger. Didnt even try to hide it!

[@stewybot]

If he hits you with 2 rush uppercuts the round's over. So frustrating!

[@malcovich_games]

If AI Boxer felt like doing rush punch all day, then his opponent got no choice but just block AND die no matter how much health they had.

[@kenrickkahn]

Like Dude just throw Rush Punches out of nowhere and it's over but we have to hold back for like 3 seconds and still the CUP blocks its.. Cheat Bastards..

[@kenrickkahn]

@@stewybot it is!

[@othertwishart]

Zangief recovering from dizzy directly into the extended bite attack was some controller throwing nonsense

[@BigDomino]

I feel lied to. My whole life, it never dawned on me... those damn Blanka head bites... My childhood didn't need to be that stressful.

[@richardchargingcloud6590]

I'm your 69 like, least you got that.

[@BigDomino]

@@richardchargingcloud6590 NICE... ... seriously though, that's 69 more than I usually get, thanks for the love!

[@remirodriguez9855]

Perfect for a massive lawsuit

[@shadownaki]

BLANKA, NO! NOT THE HEADBITE!

[@ManlyPlant]

Finally with all the evidence we have we can arrest SF2 for it's crimes.... maybe it might just break out faster than humanly possible.

[@deedoubs]

It somehow convinced the parole board to let it out just as it stepped into jail. Unprecedented for a 300 year sentence.

[@TheChilledScrub]

I knew I was going crazy so many quarters lost to that damn game.

[@warren_waters]

SF2 consistently breaks out of prison in 12 frames

[@TheEthanGamer]

Sf2 has already broke out of prison. Dhalsim just grabbed all the prison guards and Yoga bopped their heads to death.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

All right, SFII, you’re un-HEY WTF AM I DOING IN THE ELECTRIC CHAI- *_BZZZZZZZZZZT_*

[@manrique_1984]

There should be a class-action lawsuit to get my quarters back from the 1990s.

[@josflorida5346]

Bruh... I'm in

[@SebaProgre]

Actually yes, this is fraud in any country you live in...

[@lyssanch3096]

accounting fir inflation too 🤔

[@DrDNP87]

Yes...with inflation in check

[@crussteasock4047]

I think that's what the stimulus checks were for. They knew we'd have choice words

[@lightningspark1903]

Ken cheated so hard with that sweep kick that he even looked at the camera at 1:36, add insult to injury

[@jorgemendez5408]

LoL

[@Bluecedor]

Ken and Sagat were always one of the worst to lose to. The damage Ken inflicted per move might as well have been gunshots, and both of Sagat’s win poses were laughing at you as you were deaf from hearing “TIGER!!!” 89 times.

[@Bluecedor]

Ken and Sagat were always one of the worst to lose to. The damage Ken inflicted per move might as well have been gunshots, and both of Sagat’s win poses were laughing at you as you were deaf from hearing “TIGER!!!” 89 times.

[@Fenolmenon]

@@Bluecedor LOL!!! At the "Tiger!!!" 89 times!! (You know the programmers were just fucking with us too, when EVERY special move of his said "tiger" - both high & low fireballs, knee (before it became "tiger knee") and his uppercut) Man, between that, and Dhalsim's elephants roaring... I can never unhear them.

[@Bluecedor]

@@Fenolmenon Ya that’s true, Dhalsim’s elephants were a solid arcade deafness contender. You could hear those things from 30 ft away in a noisy arcade.

[@zwallyzool1974]

Don't forget when Zangeif grabs you from out of his actual reach.

[@feuryie]

his reach in sf II is more than half screen. he has massive reach.

[@CidSilverWing]

@OGlettuceWEED I've heard that Bison (Balrog) would Turn Punch and blockstun you infinitely with no charge-up and fully invincible at all times.

[@BASEJOCK11]

I like when your character says Hadoken but CPU grabs you so fast that nothing comes out as you go for a ride for a most likely a KO’ing pile driver.

[@havefaithinnobody3575]

you think that's unfair? fight Goenitz in Snk vs. Capcom on the hardest difficulty. that fullscreen bullshit is ridiculous

[@tongyinwang215]

Zangeif cheat until Alpha 3 still happen. SFV boss M Bison even worst, can keep punching can kicking player non stop even you blocked the attack.

[@Csumbi]

in the era of arcades im sure this was common practice for every game, the cpu cheating and manipulating the player for just one more match to beat that boss, and so you put more coins in the machine.

[@PsychoCrusher46]

This is further evidence by MK2 and X-Men COTA where the CPU reacts to all of your button presses or are given more priority with their attacks. In MK2 the CPU can grab you if they are close enough even if you use long reach attacks. In X-Men the CPU can auto block all of your attacks until they don't feel like doing it. I test it by spamming jab away from Cyclops and all he did was tap block everytime.

[@carltasticdrew9633]

@terrorista31 Ikr. Every character you face is like a boss fight. And i even set it in the easiest difficulty and the AI in the 3rd stage is cheap ah.

[@ibrohiem]

@@PsychoCrusher46 In the MK games they don't even try to hide it. Bosses uppercuts knocks half of your fucking life in an instant. Also they telegraph every single one of your move, blocking and comboing the shit out of you before you can respond.

[@anthonymccall3064]

Ive had a command grab executed by the cpu grab me from an absurd range as i watch the same command grab i use whiff at point blank range.

[@carltasticdrew9633]

@@anthonymccall3064 the CPU will grab you 6 characters away. I fought against CPU Daimon in KOF 98 and he use command grab during my super.

[@MrKeech666]

So, all those times as a kid in the arcade yelling " THE F*CKING COMPUTER CHEATED ", I was actually right?! 🤔

[@massterwushu9699]

Bansaku You’re a scrub

[@cheevosmith892]

@@massterwushu9699 ok boomer

[@OceanRedux]

Yes. technically, you were correct.

[@TheTrueJDV]

@@massterwushu9699 and ur a pleb so what move on😘

[@Mcmacladdie]

Considering the CPU could do Sonic Booms while walking forward, chances are they weren't kidding :P

[@rjrobb0223]

Guile throwing back to back sonic booms was another one, like seriously!?

[@gs7843]

I remember imagining the cpu had its own controller except the buttons were each assigned to a special move

[@kylebennett789]

They were playing SSF4 3D Edition before it was cool

[@SayAhh]

And one special key that lets it hit past blocks.

[@ColonelCarnage]

I like how the computer does some sweep under my punch where it’s nowhere near be but my punch has enough to reach them and I’m the one that takes damage.

[@PANYHK]

How about when you jump and the projectile would slow down to meet you at the landing zone !!! 🤬🤬🤬

[@ubergamer2010]

And now we have modern controls lol

[@luigiosmbz]

Oh, I get it. They don't read your inputs at all! They just don't care about the game they're in!

[@kuanlimputera]

This looks like a Low Tier God's ai is playing.

[@AndrewBlechinger]

So the accusation here is that LTG is very predictable once you figure out his "script"?

[@yanpaq6405]

@Raystorm002 it can read your soul at that level

[@zlatyan]

No they still read your inputs. The rest is just bonus.

[@lilboosie5]

The AI definitely reads your inputs. It's like the arcade AI is always set on hard to make more money

[@RestlessDipstick]

Standing Flash Kick will always be one of the most terrifying things in all of Street Fighter.

[@Octo4533]

Mmhmm.

[@sidgar1]

Along with forward walking Sonic Booms

[@ramsey276]

Seriously, we need to get over that and evolve the move inputs like Weaponlord did with Hold button, control pad motion, release button commands. I think it would be more fair if you held a Punck/Kick button like Juri does.

[@gc3k]

The worst Flash Kicks are the ones right after the CPU throws a Sonic Boom a few frames ago

[@heshgxd]

nah blanka chewing on yo face for 20 seconds while you’re watching your health bar go down fast is terrifying

[@jamesinciardi5099]

I still remember the last time I played Street Fighter. A new edition had just come out, I think it was Super Street Fighter 2. I was at Scandia in Rohnert Park, CA, and I was using Blanka and fighting against the computer using Blanka. Keep in mind that I had been playing Street Fighter II for years and wasted lots and lots of money on it. Anyway, I did the cannonball charge at him and he grabbed me out of the air and starting eating my face. It was near the beginning of the match and I had most of my life, but he ate my face until I had only a little bit of life left. Nearly all my life gone. Then he did it again the next match, and then again. I was mashing buttons hoping to escape until I realized that it wasn’t helping. Just let him eat my face. Finally I was like, “F**k this!!” I walked away and that was the last time I ever put any money into a Street Fighter game.

[@randomyoutuber7898]

Sounds about right

[@moyza_]

Wise decision.

[@DeadManXXR]

I know I'm two years late to your comment, but as a local kid from down the 101 who spent half his childhood at that RP Scandia dropping quarters, just gotta say WADDUP!!

[@takethat863]

Facts blanka face bite would go on extra long but zangief was the worse by far his head bite and pile driver took most of your health

[@mr.raslyon6626]

I did that with MK3 Ultimate, when they started pulling Killer Instinct-style combos in the first round. Get Gud wouldn't cut it. It was such bullshit.

[@Slickman2006]

I think the one that pissed me off the most is how fast they recover from being dizzy.

[@assassinmanx6128]

That's why you have to be right next to them. So you can instantly grab their ass with a throw.

[@eternalhalloween1]

The one that gets me the most angry is when you throw Ken or Ryu, and while they're falling back, they seem to go instantly into the uppercut and fly an absurdly ridiculous amount of space across the screen.

[@leandromdelima]

The button mashing though was the wrost for me. When Blanka, Zangief, Honda or Dhalsin grabbed me I used to just throw the controller away; it was frustating to see the lifebar, some times completely full, being drained helpless like that. Many times I just turned off the console out of anger. Fuck, I remember when I was about 7 or 8 years old crying, FUCKING CRYING of rage!!!

[@DownFromtheMountains]

@@leandromdelima You're not alone. A lot of us did that. Myself included 😞

[@Dargonhuman]

@@leandromdelima Shit like that is why I don't feel bad when I use an emulator and cheat right back by loading a save state when they grab me. My thinking is, "Oh, you're not gonna give me a chance to defend? Fine, then I'm gonna equally deny you the chance to grab me in the first place. *raspberry*." Then I realize I just stuck my tongue out at a computer and feel very silly.

[@v1rusAnon]

gold old days when CPU is the only cheating on me

[@KingofL85]

Now the devs cheats even more sell game for high price n give characters as pay download.still people are stupid enough to buy.

[@xChris_Kentx]

Ouch.

[@MacMac1313]

@@KingofL85 It's a different era. I think buying new characters isn't necessarily bad but it's just more of an upgrade that you can choose to have. Of course, everybody wants a new character so people will buy. Everything bought and sold online so why not ?? It's the future !

[@KingofL85]

@@MacMac1313just think about it man they sell games for around 40 to 60 dollars n they haven't even fixed game n it's bugs n sometimes they never get fixed too they have time to create and sell characters n make money services more stable but nope not the game.it ain't future it's plain cheating customers.

[@mee091000]

Soberan0 LMAO

[@ImyManzProductions]

Street Fighter 2 was the only game where the CPU felt like a conscious A.I. acting emotionally by cheating against you. We all talked to and swore at the CPU when it cheated / played cheap.

[@willybandicoot3699]

And Mortal Kombat 2?

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

@@willybandicoot3699 right??! MK 2 doesn't try to hide it.

[@mgtocrateezspeaks3971]

Just about every fighting game cheats. I've actually caught the CPU reading my buttons. I'd fake like I was doing a fireball or something (just the arrows) and they'd block. Just one if many examples. There's also the insane amount of damage the boss does and the paltry amount you do. The CPU doesn't beat you with skill; it can't (past normal) so it resorts to using Neo tactics.

[@soulofachristian8704]

😂🤣👍. Yea but some early mortal kombat games also (I remember Jade being a cheat, Motaro and Shao Khan). It's like you was playing online back then. Edit: I almost forgot, Kazuya in Tekken 2 also.

[@Method2k5]

@@mgtocrateezspeaks3971 Pretty much any fighting game cpu you play reads inputs from my experience. The higher the difficulty the worse it gets

[@JamesWilliams-gv7zd]

You're bringing back thirty plus years of suppressed rage

[@junation7619]

All my life, my brother's and I thought the Arcade Fighting games were Rigged. After 27 years, there's proof, great vid🔥🔥😎

[@MeechJacobs]

This would've settled SO many arguments back in the day. Matter of fact, I may have to rehash said arguments and link this vid.

[@MacMac1313]

@@MeechJacobs REHASH THEM !

[@tonystark-gz5no]

yeah... thats the belief all this year... cpu cheats and all of a sudden beat you...but you cant replicate it if you use the same character and movement...lol....

[@playere25]

@@MeechJacobs It'd have settled some of the arguments, while also bringing false claims & excuses from amateurs at the same time. But yeah man this video still should be shared among any of us that burned tons of hours on SF 2

[@malcovich_games]

I once remembered, there's an arcade game that's so rigged, no TAS/tool-assisted superplay can beat it in one credit.

[@derrickcoleman6743]

"Gotta keep those quarters coming it's nothing personal it's business" said capcom's CEO

[@kylequatmann2125]

That is what greety people say that only care about cheering people out of money.

[@kylequatmann2125]

It is the same as a gambler counting the cards at blackjack. It is not illegal but is it unethical? (Retorical question)

[@Sidekick1107]

Hahahahahaha oh my God got to keep the business coming hahaha oh my geez hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@jeremyriley1238]

@@kylequatmann2125 Well, they need the money to continue making video games.

[@dhay03]

Actually, it was the businesses that had the machines that profited from the quarters not Capcom. Capcom makes it’s money from the actual cabinets that are either sold or rented out to the businesses. Yeah I know, I nerded out there. 😄

[@icecoldassassin8531]

Player: **confined to the rules of the game** CPU: "Reality can be whatever I want."

[@DerekMoore82]

Capcom: "The humans are still based on a system of rules, because of that they can never be as strong or as fast as you can be." A.I. "What are trying to tell me, that I can dodge hadokens?" Capcom: "No A.I., I'm trying to tell you, that when you're ready... you won't *have* to."

[@vaevictis3551]

🤣🤣🤣 "is that air you think your breathing?"

[@vaevictis3551]

@@DerekMoore82 Rofl👍🏻

[@ecosmith7852]

@@DerekMoore82 There is a spoon, and you will be beaten with it blocking or not

[@jnfirst]

@@vaevictis3551 I came for this! Lol

[@Quitplaying360]

The details that went into making this video is crazy. Good work, bro 👏🏽

[@Octo4533]

Guile really was the one who pissed me off with his forward walking sonic booms and the 1 frame crouch into a Flash Kick.

[@dainelgalera4917]

You as a player could do the one second flash kick, but not the walking forward flash kick. In order to do the to do the 1 frame flash kick : As you jump you immediately go into defensive crouch, the charge count will start and by the time you land you could execute the flash kick by pushing diagonal forward up. Good Guile players knew this so every time they jump they always immediately defensive crouch so you could do kick flash kick combos without guile even having to crouch, like jumping in fierce punch, fierce punch flash kick. The worst cheat I ever saw the game would have you in a holding grab position with Guile, you would remain standing and Guile would stand right next to you and you cannot move but the game continues to strong punch you until your life bar was emptied.

[@hoodmistressreloaded]

I had that issue with Guile too. Whenever I'd try to attack him from the air, he'd always get me with a Flash Kick. So what I'd do is try to fake him out by making the CPU think I'm attacking him with LK or MK so he'd pull off another Flash Kick and miss, then I would body slam him in the air (this strategy works mainly with Chun-Li).

[@symbify]

Guile didn't need to charge to throw sonic booms. Ridiculous 😂

[@kongthao9935]

I had it worst. He walks towards me. I land a hit. What does he do? Standing flash kick. No crouching. I think the CPU cheats by counting 1\4 of one second with 1\4 of another second and calls that half second as a full two seconds. That's what I think.

[@thechugg4372]

@@kongthao9935 I personally think the CPU is just playing smash bros and inputing motions with a single button.

[@corvettez06usa]

It's so satisfying to know all those years ago when I would yell "bullshit!" at video games that chances are I was right.

[@Senhordaverdadeabsol]

was aware something was wrong while seen frequent chargeless booms and flash kicks back in the days....but now it is cleat that was just the tip of the iceberg. And they carry these cheats over to SUPER!

[@erykaldo2l270]

@Mojo Risin They do, but not So blatant. Back in the day the AI straight up read your inputs and blocked/parried your attacks. Now the AI is worse in terms of intelligence, but i actually prefer that over unfair fight Thats designed to milk you.

[@RicochetForce]

@Mojo Risin Oh yeah, many of them ARE still pulling horseshit. Input reading is still a thing (inhuman response times born out of reacting only when you input an action), but the other methods today are less obvious. It'll be things like moves being positive on block when they use it, despite it not being the case when the player tries the same shit.

[@souljastation5463]

@@Senhordaverdadeabsol Back in the days I wasn't aware of the mandatory 2 seconds of charge time so I would blame myself for not being able to do the charging moves as fast as CPU Guile/Blanka did. I tried a lot to do the moves fast before giving up.

[@Hairybuffalo]

Hell yea I would chunk that controller so hard. Punch the bed. Mom popping in telling me I’m retarded for pitching a fit

[@brentgarlick6974]

I want every quarter I lost to this game returned to me with interest lol.

[@GGman2019]

@Frizzurd whats mame

[@DaLoganFrost]

It's not so crazy! A class action lawsuit is possible.

[@brentgarlick6974]

@@DaLoganFrost lol thats all I need is a crazy enough lawyer.

[@nigeljoseph1722]

Exactly!😂

[@crazydave-bz1ys]

@@GGman2019 stands for Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator. In other words it's an emulator for arcade games

[@cagethelonewolf]

Sf2 probably made tons of people assume that they weren't meant for fighting games.

[@THEGREATMAX]

More fighting game AIs cheat than you think. Fighting game AI is still bad.

[@cagethelonewolf]

@@THEGREATMAX still? nah you just aren't meant to play a fighting game

[@THEGREATMAX]

@@cagethelonewolf They don't cheat like this, but most still rely on things like rubberbanding difficulty because they're not capable of acting like another competitive human player

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

You mean “How Street Fighter II Made So Much God-Damned Money”.

[@gc3k]

It's a joke, but SF2 made its money from multiplayer

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

David Curry This is how even the Nowheresville cabinets did it.

[@user-bm6wu9zw9m]

My favorite was M. Bison walking forward and doing his psycho crusher.

[@fidacuca]

lol

[@Dessan01]

** What always got me about Bison was the double knee press - when fighting against him he does it over and over and knocks you the fuck out, when using him that move is a piece of shit, it never seems to go far enough and always seems weaker. Same with the head press - CPU pulls is off perfect every time, Vs CPU it’s blocked nearly 100% of the time. The only Bison moves worth pulling off are the psycho crusher and that leg slide thing.

[@fabricembida4526]

Yeaaah ! Definitely cheating CPU

[@j3zhott]

Trying to fight Shen long beating the game on perfect every player getting to Bison and ultimately getting touched by that head stomp still gives me headaches an nightmares

[@puffolotti]

Well, if you are talking about SF2 The world warriors, there Bison was supposed to be a command character, in that version the psycho crusher started with a long preparation, altough AI was instructed to start it whenever it had control and player was jumping into troubles. The great thing about SF2 that got lost after SF alpha and all the alpha cancel, alpha parry, alpha jet-farts was the sense of inevitability. In Street fighter 2, between a fatal mistake and the consequences of that mistake, the player's subjective time expanded, and they had 155 years to contemplate the horror that was bound to come. "You made a poor choice, with that jumping short kick. Now you are falling on Zangief's arms, while he's on ground and has control. you have 1,66 seconds to live, Use them to reflect on how they are much longer than you previously thought."

[@shobukawa4183]

You forgot to talk about one more thing. The damage scaling on a Player 1 Normals/Specials are completely different from a CPU Normal/Specials. A crouching heavy kick or a standing medium punch can do more damage than 5 chip fireballs. One Dee Jay Machinegun Upper can take almost your entire life bar. It's incredibly stupid.

[@sirtieman]

you can really notice this when you fight akuma

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@King4Mammoth]

dude your so right

[@vulcan422]

Yep. When you play against the CPU in older games, you are not fighting against the same version of that character you would play normally. They're like a specially "balanced" version of that character, specifically designed for the CPU to control. They run under special programming flags that completely change their animations, moveset functionality, damage values, and even frame data so that the CPU has more of an advantage than the player. Mortal Kombat and especially SNK fighting games operated on the same design principles.

[@christophercharles3426]

​@@vulcan422 That art of fighting game use to cheat like mad speaking of snk... street fighter 2 though as you mentioned the damage difference was insane... most of us use to go rounds each in the chip shops on the arcades and my mate got dazed from a couple small moves by ken then got dragon punched.. took away his whole bar near enough... we all just looked at each other in disbelief..

[@VidhantRana]

CPUs recovering faster from a stun and pretending to charge are the biggest slap in the faces you'll ever see

[@LegatoSkyheart]

In the Arcades, Every Character is a Boss Character.

[@pftmclub]

It's make you want to buy more coin. Isn't it?

[@truindividual]

SNK games were way worse

[@SoleNero21]

@@pftmclub in some machines you could stick a pin inside the coin slot and trick the machine

[@pftmclub]

@@SoleNero21 i'm calling the manager !

[@RandalfElVikingo]

That's why you train yourself to be a boss fighter >:D

[@tavaresjwilliams]

The cpu really cheats you if you whoop his ass in the first round easily, and almost do it the second round but he makes a miraculous comeback beating you with no life left on his bar. Insane

[@ShaneDouglas713]

I hate that shit...it's ridiculous 😒

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Not to mention that CPU will force a Double KO just to avoid losing some times (I speak from experience)

[@clinteastwood6875]

That happens to me a lot in Alpha 3

[@psychotheunsane7285]

Can confirm this. It happens on Killer Instinct for SNES. Didn't stop me from beating the game on max difficulty--WITH NO CONTINUES--using every character except Jago. I even developed cheap combos of my own using Riptor, Fulgore and Glacius. Those suckers could wipe out nearly 90% of a CPU's first life bar. IN ONE COMBO.

[@aaronbrooks1020]

@@ShaneDouglas713 FACTS!! Then Use The Same Damn Move Over And Over Again To Beat You Quicker Before You Beat Them!!

[@AnimeLover-po2nu]

What I like about the mashing is that it's basically the CPU going: "They know damn well I'm cheating, I'm not even gonna bother hiding it."

[@DownFromtheMountains]

You're right about that 😂!

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

To be fair, it's entirely possible within the game's rules to mash as fast as the CPU can. It's just that no human can hit a single button 60 times a second.

[@angolin9352]

@@THENAMEISQUICKMAN Except that the computer can't hit the button at 60Hz either. If a game is running at 60fps, the fastest you can tap a button is 30Hz, or on for one frame and off for the next.

[@malcovich_games]

@@angolin9352 if the game is improperly programmed, AI can hit it at 60Hz no prob because the programmers will forget you need to release a button 1 frame before you can hit it again

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@malcovich_games exactly

[@BentoBoxBobbyTV]

I am so glad you used the arranged version of Fighting Street only on Turbo Duo. It is a beautiful soundtrack and one of the best.

[@TrentCantrell]

Don't forget that the controller motions for the specials and supers would often leave you vulnerable. The CPU just launched them without any opening.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@AzureSymbiote]

What's worse is that the CPU still does that to this day.

[@kenrickkahn]

Till this day the CPU does that crap 😂

[@rickcorkum89]

9 year old me, "the games cheating!" 30 year old me, calls mom, I TOLD YOU!!

[@Livingeidolon]

Vindication! All those times I said that the computer cheats... here's proof!

[@Gr0t0tter]

True story - playing against the computer always felt cheap and immensely frustrating.

[@smilindreamerproductions]

BINGPOT

[@dba4292]

Why I hate this pos game. Made this way so kids would keeping adding coins to the arcades. Sickens me!

[@scottmitchell2757]

Not me . I could whip ass all day on one quarter. Ken .

[@silver2164]

The charging thing - I knew it! It was so hard to pull off Guile and M.Bison's moves but the CPU does it with ease. 2 seconds my ass.

[@perryturner6343]

Yeah, I was like "who plays this, when a move like that was with ease?". It made me feel stupid, even trying!

[@tonycervz89]

Seem like two mins

[@randomcharacter6501]

Especially Bison. I used to think there was a secret way of doing his moves with inputs bc the CPU would pull them out so fast.

[@crsece5463]

I feel like 5 seconds when executing charging moves

[@esta7763]

Yeah, Bison can trap you in the corner and keep doing the flip kick over and over and over, despite that he's supposed to need 2 seconds to charge each one.

[@seangilmore3901]

I feel like this could be used in a class action lawsuit to get our financial compensation for all our broken controllers reimbursed.

[@rayx1679]

And all of our quarters spent tryna beat the bosses too 😭

[@dustman96]

Or for all the quarters I lost.

[@ArchieBanks-us8ki]

one is for sure , they made a lot of cash with those arcade machines 🤣

[@FoulWeatherFriend385]

@@ArchieBanks-us8ki Has a lawsuit ever been filed over that? I'd think it would be impossible to compensate anybody because we don't have records of who played.

[@ImpressleySnipes]

My favorite is when the computer stops dead and waits for you to push a button to counter it.

[@Lightwaverable]

Can you throw?

[@neronah7349]

@@Lightwaverable They'll get priority out of no where and counter somehow. Most likely with their own grab.

[@togucvinw7]

Fo real xD old MK and SNK were the masters of that shit ,and quick counter with a never ending combo

[@webbiefade14]

That's mortal kombat 2 and up loool

[@jockw6263]

Mk11

[@Nilsontargino]

This is not just in this version of Street Fighter, as an experienced player, I noticed that in Street Fighter IV, Zangief can use his ultra combo without having to jump, and his special It requires two full turns on the analog stick to work, which cannot be done without a jump

[@gregorycampbell9386]

The walk up standing flashkick is the most egregious of them all.

[@Clickstop24]

CPU was playing sf4 DS 2 games before everyone else

[@PistolPete1980]

Is it possible the CPU count the exact time. while a human can only estimate?

[@gregorycampbell9386]

@@PistolPete1980 Yeah thats possible but time passes at the same rate for the cpu as it does for us. I play turbo sometimes and do neutral jumps against guile to bait out flashkicks sometimes but even then the landing frames are so quick.

[@-Keith-]

I disagree, fighting M Bison on max difficulty was the most egregious. 0 charge up time for all of his attacks (all of which are supposed to use charge time) and he spams them non stop.

[@gregorycampbell9386]

@@-Keith- I was just commenting on seeing the walk up flashkick on this video but you are right.

[@cejaythegreatandawesome]

I been waiting almost 30 years for this vid to come out and im only 15

[@bkdove]

LoL

[@bastardferret869]

holy shit, son. this made me spit out my tea.

[@stimulanttree]

Fantastic

[@gru271]

@@bastardferret869 from your nose, not your mouth tho....

[@cejayryan8096]

Couldn'ta agree more

[@Agamemnon-w9x]

Imagine a bunch of us Gen-X'ers and Millenials marching outside Capcom HQ, demanding reparations in quarters for this

[@krxvii244]

Well I lost how 30 dollars in1993 playing a trap

[@TomTom-sm7il]

We knew what it was doing. We kept playing lol. We were so good at this game. At it's peak, there was a street fighter machine in every liquor store, 7-11, video store, etc. There were always lines and competition was fierce. I miss those days.

[@TheTDA]

Loool 👏

[@davidreeves4556]

Seriously this could be a class action law suit for millions

[@TomTom-sm7il]

Y'all don't understand, we beat the computer even though it cheated. We were that good.

[@dayshonsmith1485]

One thing that upsets me is with the re-releases of this game. They never addressed this problem. Nor have they ever talked about it.… like what is the logical reasoning behind this stuff? This stuff doesn’t make you a better player. Because you literally have to get lucky on top of great gameplay to beat something like this… points that your opponent is invincible, they can break out of a combo whenever they want, use charge moves without really charging, throw you out of a throw… or react faster than humanly possible… like come on 😒

[@3DKnuckles]

They should interview the developers on this

[@OsirisMawn]

"Nothing personal, just business" walks into helicopter

[@dontneedtoknow5836]

It's kinda like knowing you weren't going to win the first fight with ryu on stage 4+ of it was set any higher than default.

[@josetrinidad2787]

One minute of silence in memory of all the controllers destroyed because of this.

[@theniteowl7777]

this is the arcade cabinet but ok then

[@TallSilentGuy]

Ever get the feeling that the game was refusing you the moves even when you were executing the moves perfectly?

[@gru271]

Third strike had me feeling like that....

[@glenwaldrop8166]

@@gru271 worst. I wind up with my hands cramping when I play SFIII. Not a bad game, terrible control system.

[@DownFromtheMountains]

@@glenwaldrop8166 Yep I know that feeling because I still have SF III on the Sega Dreamcast, and those hand cramps are real 😩

[@badassgenevideos]

That is a different story my dear.

[@mee091000]

BadassGene Videos Actually it depends on the game. But most of the time the user is screwing up.

[@MaxScheibenpflug]

So THAT'S why I always thought playing against other people was somehow more fun!

[@Animebryan2]

Not only that, but other people often have certain fighting styles or 'habitual patterns' that can make human players easily predictable.

[@riftvallance2087]

@@Animebryan2 The AI on these old games is fairly predictable too, it's just that you are predicting what its going to use to duck you over.

[@kingj521]

The legendary walk up flash kick... >:/

[@patrickoakley7890]

The most blatant offender. We all knew the CPU was cheating once we saw that.

[@Blackoutdmc]

Did he just walk up slowly and flash kick?

[@patrickoakley7890]

@@Blackoutdmc yes. This happened normally in the arcade all the time.

[@DownFromtheMountains]

And it's still being done today even after nearly 30 years

[@diyjohn9584]

That walking flash kick is possible with joystick holding it slightly down while walking, but not enough for him to crouch. Then when charged enough, push up and press kick.

[@KalHimself]

After YEARS of throwing controllers and screaming "THE GAME CHEATIN" at the TV, my cries have been justified.

[@voicesfromjapan]

I’m a Japanese person who actually played Street Fighter II. Watching this really makes me think. Even when I was the one initiating the attack, the CPU would often overlap my moves with enemy attacks to score hits. No wonder it was so difficult to beat the CPU back then. Their normal movements were so fast that I couldn’t think that far ahead. Thank you for the insights!🤔

[@187onaPigeon]

I knew I wasn't crazy

[@razeboxanimations3215]

Same

[@chillvibes375]

especially that turbo edition...even on the lowest difficulty, it is a challenge.

[@MaxNMotion]

Cheaters never prosper. Unless the developers coded them to.

[@anthonythemaster4609]

Well capcom prosper because of this

[@Edwinthomas007]

COMPUTER: "So you mean to tell me I can dodge attacks?" THE ARCHITECT: "No, cpu. I'm trying to tell you that when you're ready you won't have to."

[@2strong247]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gils5496]

Woa

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Accurate

[@charlesdavis8725]

This comment is legendary

[@Dkad]

Great comment ! Isn't that Morpheus saying that line though ? =)

[@caribbean7667]

The worst Street Fighter 2 arcade cheat made by the CPU I ever saw in person, was the time that Zangief, with almost zero energy, did a spinning piledriver on the character used by a friend of mine (I think it was Ryu or Ken) and knocked him out with at least half energy remaining on the bar. The KO's cry and the energy going to zero took at least 3 seconds to finish. LOL! My friend was furious and I was disappointed. Losing the coin due to such evident cheating was frustrating.

[@duchi882]

*Rumor has it* The CPU is now rich from all your quarters

[@icecoldassassin8531]

STONKS

[@joseleon6559]

That explains bitcoin fortune.

[@michaelsong5555]

- Let's not forget the damage factor. CPU does way more damage, and it takes so little damage. - Walking back-charging attack (Blanka, esp).

[@HereForAStorm]

The Asian part of me says I just have to get better... the American part of me ponders if we can sue Capcom.

[@darmstrong9334]

Very well said! The game did cheat but it was not impossible to beat it. Back in the early 90s, me and my friends could beat SF2 with all of the characters with one credit. 50 cents lol

[@paulsmith5684]

Yes sueing would be a good idea. Just kidding don't do that just mod the game.

[@datriaxsondor590]

Never go American.

[@joao6688]

lol

[@TheNumbasign2]

@@darmstrong9334 was a quater in my day. Lol

[@dadsghost]

There wasn't much that could faze me as a kid playing these games, but having zangief do that bullshit grab and mash would fly me into a rage

[@WatchMysh]

For 28 years I struggled whether I was right or not. Now, finally: proof.

[@blabla-rg7ky]

same! It's so relieving to know that you've been right all along...

[@UsTheMusicTVOfficial]

The dislikes are from the CPUs.

[@jerrywebster7678]

LOL...good one

[@grixmyron7637]

The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire...

[@psychotheunsane7285]

"We cheat because it's no fun just winning. We have to make sure it's in the cheapest, most unfair way possible. 😈"

[@psychotheunsane7285]

@I love Ms Elite Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

[@WinatLifeBlog]

M. Bison was also a great cheater with back-to-back Scissor Kicks.

[@OlgaFlowen]

I thought I was the only one who raged at this. I was hoping to see it in this video.

[@carltasticdrew9633]

Walk forward into scissor kick. 😠

[@raggaeldestro]

Humans could actually do that when Dictator was first playable. I had a “friend” who played him and would have you in block stun for over ten seconds. His charge time was about a second on scissor kicks

[@forget6917]

E honda sumo spam is way worse

[@erebus38]

Been there and done that more times than my oldest friend and I remotely even care to try and count. When the CPU felt like not playing nice you can bet you were most likely not gonna have an easy day, especially when it came to Bison with all those constant double to triple non charged scissor knees over and over again.

[@DevastatingDave]

The cheating AI was bad annoying, but my God it was nowhere near as bad as MK2. That was infuriating on a whole other level.

[@BillyBanks69]

Oh faark yeah. We need a video like this one but for MK2.

[@hardBoss]

None of this was as annoying as the CPU always walking back when you walk forward and forward when you walk back.

[@MrLacp]

Oh yeah!! Plus the CPU could walk back without blocking.

[@FireStormBaller]

Now come to think of it, I think the cpu walks backwards faster than if it wad controlled by a normal person

[@lazyakuma1165]

BOIS WE FOUND ANOTHER CHEAT!

[@ryonagana]

@steven[]seagull nop it just calculate and predict your movements if you jump cpu becomes aware if you gonna kick or punch and the direction na waits your button press to decide what to do and more fast was the decision more hard the AI will be its just a finite state machine

[@LordSephleon]

This was exactly why I never got frustrated with losing against a second player, but would generally rage out at the CPU.

[@moyza_]

Same

[@Bluecedor]

Yep. You could obviously see the skill in another human player, even if they were cheesing you out of the game. The CPU always had god mode available to be switched on. It was not a matter of if but when.

[@profeslu]

Here in Brazil, 25 years ago, I saw some guys breaking arcades because these things.

[@wiry7428]

I used to believe that every morning, the game parlour's owner deliberately set each game's difficulty to extremely hardest mode. So that he can drain coins faster from kids who desperately tried to beat the game. When in the hardest difficulty, CPU tends to cheat much as in this vid

[@profeslu]

@@wiry7428Yes, it is true in some places it did. In other places it happened from the new games started in the easy mode. But when they did the first maintenance, they always switched to Super Mega Ultra Hard mode. lol

[@flowerthencrranger3854]

Street Fighter de rodoviária é outro nível.

[@combatantlife]

No one cares.

[@DG_Haus]

I used to be obsessed with this game as a kid but that's because I didn't get many chances to play. Now I have emulated ports it's actually not fun. How was this game so successful looking back now?

[@moyza_]

Innovation, mostly. And the addiction factor, of course.

[@DenjinOni]

Ive experienced all of this in multiple sf2 games glad there are others who saw this

[@Jabroniville]

The "Charging" thing is one I always noticed. Even as a kid who has no idea about framerate or hitboxes, you notice a guy hitting a Flash Kick 0.15 seconds after starting a jump or when he couldn't have possibly been "holding down".

[@illiteratethug3305]

you can charge it whilst jumping though. In fact it's kind of integral to being competative with Guile. That being said the CPU was always a cheating little fucker

[@Jabroniville]

@@illiteratethug3305 oh yeah, I know about that- I'm just talking about them doing it like 0.15 seconds after they leave the ground for the jump, not after they land.

[@globalcommerce7654]

I remember back in the sf2 days I think it was egm that interviewed the devs and they confirmed guile did cheat and not charge

[@mattjohnson8585]

And Sonic Boom. You have to &*@$ing charge that, Guile!!

[@th3d4v1d14n]

Actually it is possible for players to do special moves with virtually no charge. I met this kid who was a wizard, he could walk forward and do a flash kick on the spot, or do a flash kick right after landing from a jump, and all kinds of shit like that, we became friends and started teaching me his secrets. The easiest example was doing a throw medium punch, throw the other character towards the opposite side, hold the stick on that direction and spam the weak punch, and as soon as the throw animation ends Guile will perform a sonic boom. Another one example that requires a little more skill is doing a combo, you can hit with the fierce punch while standing and then a flash kick, the trick here is very simple, it just requires good timing, start on the crouching position and perform the flash kick, but right while the stick is in a neutral position press the fierce punch before pressing up + kick.

[@thechugg4372]

You forgot that the CPU can do counter hits against you, dealing twice the damage but you can't do that against them. Leading to moments where you both hit each other but you take more damage!

[@sparda9060]

That was done in the arcade so that you would always lose in a draw if both of you hit simultaneously. Totally scumbag move by the devs.

[@sparda9060]

@@FranciscoMartinez-yv4om that's my point. They did it on purpose to make people spend more money at arcade. Still a scumbag move. Most people who love playing arcade they continue to play it even after beating it because they love the game. So them doing that really dont make them a lot of money as people who love the game always play it over and over. I see that all the time for all arcades that use to exist, those few same people who I always play the same arcade cabinets everywhere. Make game harder by cheating like this actually makes new players quit playing, not continue to play.

[@hesgotamotor8288]

If your sagat and you do the jump in and light attack kick it drops a knee, but when the CPU sagat does that same knee its a hard attack,

[@hesgotamotor8288]

@@FranciscoMartinez-yv4om I remember walking to the Chinese take away bar , aka the grease pit in pukekohe new Zealand back in 1993 and I put two 50 cent coins in and they both fell down inside the cabinet and I got no credits I pushed that stupid little button return coin thing no coins came out so I gave it a couple front kicks in the slot, and the old Chinese guy came flying out of a little cubby hole door and yelled wah you do eh!!??? You boo a game!!!! I said I got no credits he said I dooh care!!! Is noh my game you goh hom your game finish, you no boo a game!!!! I boo you!!!! 😹. It was worth a dollar, just wish I had a phone back then. Lol

[@ShaneDouglas713]

FACTS

[@chrisjenkins3452]

E Honda body press was a fucking nightmare because hed come half way across the screen and hit you.

[@Gimili10]

You even forgot one: sometimes if your attack should do just enough damage to beat the CPU, it will reduce your attack power just enough to keep going for one more hit. E. Honda (as a CPU opponent) was an especially big offender.

[@elfabusss3287]

yea, the f****** damage cheat. In a point, the CPU will do more damage (sometimes, the double of usual) and the human player will do less damage (sometimes your attack damage will be less than zero!).

[@DownFromtheMountains]

@@elfabusss3287 YEEEEEESSSSSS! I am so glad other people noticed that! Your jump Fierce Kick does about 10% damage while the EXACT SAME jumping Fierce Kick by the CPU is like 25% damage! The lies they tell 💔💔!

[@axsondouglas8769]

@@DownFromtheMountains depende da categoria do lutador, eles tem, um sistema de progressão a cada desafio o level do dano inimigo vai aumentando. sim, as vezes o dano dobra mesmo com essa aumento de dano absurdo

[@QuantumNova]

A 'cpu' Tiger uppercut did 75% damage on me before. Yes, 3 quarters. 'Ha ha ha ha' my ass, cheating Sagot.

[@playere25]

YESSSSSS! You'd use a hard attack knowing full well it's the killing blow (or SHOULD be) while the computer has a sliver of health, just for the CPU to suddenly counter and you die. Annoying AF! Like the CPU could have literally NO health at all, yet somehow still manage to survive through BLOCKING your attacks.

[@nickclark1815]

Yeah I remember dying to Zangief biting of my entire freakin' face when I still had half health left, pissed me off so much.

[@mosesblackhero3004]

This is the reason why I became a hater of this franchise.

[@jackburton6239]

Honda would squeeze me to dearh.

[@SwuadeTV]

This video proves after all these years ppl are still traumatized

[@Deadwlker]

Its a relieve from one or many...

[@eliubfj]

Still have cold sweats in bed thinking about Chun Li's kicks

[@hughesadam87]

😮 man that's some really careful attention and editing. Thanks for the quality work

[@PhyuckYu619]

I always knew it. Even when my mom screamed at me "the machine doesn't cheat" and sent me to my room. Well who looks like a crazy person now mom !!!!

[@mikeb2496]

Nice e30 bro, hopefully my 88 ETA will get that sweet M-tech kit someday. Ya vega and M Bison were terrible!

[@DarkStarGSK22]

Omg as I kid I remember thinking "don't let Zangief, E Honda or Blanka grab you" once they did 90% of my life bar was gone just like the video. Man this got me heated lol

[@S1rWakka]

Zangief doesn't have mash move

[@ashwinnair3138]

@@S1rWakka Zangief does have one! It's the first one as soon as the video starts.

[@S1rWakka]

@@ashwinnair3138 Wtf, is he biting?

[@ashwinnair3138]

@@S1rWakka In Soviet Union, you don't bite Zangief; Zangief bites you.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@S1rWakka - He had 2. The head-bite (shown) & the gut-grab. E. Honda had 2, also; The bear-hug & the knee-bash.

[@fpixel7190]

This game was the root of my anger issues as a young child...

[@myway7367]

But judging by your avatar, you turned out alright. Cheers.

[@こんにゃく-n7t]

In poker, it is like a player who, having seen through your cards all the way, plays one pair against your three of a kind, and then, after seeing the result, switches to two pair and takes double the prize money that you would have received.

[@GOREDO5]

Now i can rest easy. Knowing that my violator has been exposed. Feels like a zangief off my shoulders.

[@MachineGunMouth]

🤣🤣🤣 damm that was a heavy load on your shoulders